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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on July 16, 2018, 03:15:30 PM
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Following their joint press conference, Trump is getting hammered on both sides of the aisle for basically placing equal blame for interfering with the election and not siding with our own intelligence community. Not a wise move IMO when indictments were just handed down against 12 Russians for exactly that. Part of me gets where he's coming from due to the fact that he's been the focus of an investigation since he took office. An investigation that has unearthed exactly nada on him. And you may have to pardon him if he's just a bit jaded as to our own intelligence community when they were planting people in his campaign and texts from FBI agents clearly state they want to get rid of him.
However, I was kind of stunned by what he said. Even if behind closed doors he said, "Hey Vlad, I'm gonna' have to throw some shade your way at the presser.", and then took a few generic shots, I think people would have seen him come off as taking more of a hard line stance with Putin. As it is, I think he gave Putin's credibility a big shot in the arm and he looked soft in doing it. Not sure what his "strategy" is here, or if there even is one.
What say you?
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It's about there being people in this country that are probably a bigger threat than him. People in our own capital dome. Trump is fed up with it. That's what you saw.
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It’s about not pissing in the face of an adversary.
It’s about that stupid witch hunt not having any validity.
It’s about us doing exactly the same thing and maybe not wanting our agents charged by the Russian government.
It’s about truly negotiating with the opposition instead of fraudulent posturing and empty words.
It’s about keeping your enemies closer.
I mean really, what does he (or we) gain by him standing on a stage going “that guy’s a liar.†He just left a meeting with one of our biggest adversaries. This isn’t a boxing press conference. He’s not Apollo threatening Drago.
I’m good with it. I almost — almost — bought into the hysteria. Then I remembered how feckless our entire political leadership has been for decades. And I resolved to trust. He knows what he’s doing.
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If he dies, he dies.
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If he dies, he dies.
Everything dies, baby. That's a fact.
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Everything dies, baby. That's a fact.
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- 7 for failing to execute the format. Acceptable followups include "I must break you" and "you've seen him, you know how strong he is. You can't win!"
- 18 for interjecting a Bruce 'Commie' Springsteen quote.
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Here's a different twist on it. There's a Wall Street Journal piece either by, or quoting former Attorney General, Donald Mukasey. Yeah, I saw reference to it on Fox News so it's going to have a heavy lean towards The Donald. But, his take makes perfect sense. I preface this by saying, as I've said many times before, that whatever the Russians did or didn't do, there was absolutely no way anything could have had an affect on the election. These were the two most polarizing candidates I've ever seen and nothing was going to sway someone to vote one way or another.
But, the assertion by Mukasey is that the Russians thought, as did everyone else if they listened to our media, that Clinton would win going away. The hack of her server was to get dirt on her, something I imagine wouldn't be hard to do, and have something hanging over her head from the time she was elected. It wasn't to influence anything involving the election. It was to have leverage against the U.S. once she took office. I'm not saying that's in any way acceptable, just that it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the theory that the Russians were somehow trying to get people to vote for Trump.
BTW, simple question that I think we all know the answer to already. Reverse the roles. Hillary won the election. Let's say that Mother Russia hacked The Donald's server. Infiltrated his campaign. Is this even a story? Would it have been discussed more than a week after the election? Would there be any special counsel investigating Clinton?
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Business is business but political business is a mother fucker. If we have to deal with enemies politically, I want a man doing it who is a huge fucking bully and a very successful business man. Because a very successful business who is an absolute cut throat doesn’t get fucked, ever, even if it appears he might.
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Let's say that Mother Russia hacked The Donald's server. Infiltrated his campaign. Is this even a story? Would it have been discussed more than a week after the election? Would there be any special counsel investigating Clinton?
Probably not but we probably would have had some Stormy Daniels butt secks pictures. Course a simple google search can get you that.
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Probably not but we probably would have had some Stormy Daniels butt secks pictures. Course a simple google search can get you that.
Mmmm....butt secks.
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Probably not but we probably would have had some Stormy Daniels butt secks pictures. Course a simple google search can get you that.
Mmmm....butt secks.
deplorables.
it was definitely cringe worthy comments from Trump.
damned if you do. damned if you don't.
the reality Trump's not far from the truth and it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't deliberate...a few stones thrown in the swamp.
#maga
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it was definitely cringe worthy comments from Trump.
But were they?
He's standing on the stage with Putin. Right there next to him. He's had to go in there and meet with the guy after that Rothstein chode released indictments on 12 people over which he has absolutely zero legal authority (that was merely a political play).
Some Jim Acosta wannabe bellows out something about this nonsense "investigation." What's he supposed to say?
Let me break it out for you:
"I had some serious talks with Putin about Russia's meddling in US elections!" -- the media, the left and the never Trump republican cabal all stain their underwear and bellow "it wasn't enough! You should have jello wrestled him, you treasonous toad!!"
"I rebuked him, he denied doing it. I don't believe a word he says." -- the media, the left and the never Trump republican cabal all stain their underwear and bellow "why are you purposely antagonizing our enemy? You're driving us closer to war! Treason! Impeach!"
Shrieking about an investigation that means absolutely nothing to Putin and putting Trump on the damned if you do spot (nothing he said in response to that was going to satisfy the howling monkeys) left him nowhere to stand. He couldn't call the guy a liar to his face. Asking that question was no different than the "when did you stop beating your wife" type of gotcha.
I'm sure Putin told him he didn't do it. Hell, maybe he told him he did and he was gonna do it again. The fact is they've been doing it since the beginning of time. Didn't any of you watch that Bumperlink Dimplersnatch movie about WWII? Enemies hack communications and send misleading messages. It's what they do. The difference between a hero and a villain is what side of the ocean you stand on.
We've got to live in this world. It's a whole lot better when you treat your enemies with respect and find mutual ground than it is when you stand around in stuffed suits making empty threats and false promises.
I'm sick of the attack media looking for any excuse to demonize a man who's doing absolutely nothing more than putting America first globally and working to build a sustainable peace with the biggest threats to our freedom.
We are overrun with morons. None of them are named Trump.
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Trump is currently back tracking on his comments saying he meant to say "Why WOULDN'T they meddle in the election" as opposed to, "Why would they meddle..."
Look, not that it matters in the long run. This is just the latest topic to throw their faux rage at. They'll move on to him clubbing baby seals within the week. However, I still think he looked and sounded awkward and unprepared at a point when his critics were the most poised to spring into action. He knew damn well he was going to get asked about Russian hacking, especially coming right on the heels of the well-timed indictments. The correct response was anything but "We're both to blame and I whipped Hillary's ass by 1,000 Electoral votes. Where is her server?" That's not the time to wing it and handle the question like you're twatting back at Rosie O'Donnell.
He knew he was going to meet with Putin. He knew that Russian interference was the #1 issue on everyone's mind. He also knew he'd be asked about it in an awkward setting with his counterpart standing at his side. Just follow your adviser's recommendations for once and issue a prepared statement. "I told Vlad very bigly that we will not tolerate Russian interference". Still yet, he'd take shit no matter what he said.
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Trump is currently back tracking on his comments saying he meant to say "Why WOULDN'T they meddle in the election" as opposed to, "Why would they meddle..."
Look, not that it matters in the long run. This is just the latest topic to throw their faux rage at. They'll move on to him clubbing baby seals within the week. However, I still think he looked and sounded awkward and unprepared at a point when his critics were the most poised to spring into action. He knew damn well he was going to get asked about Russian hacking, especially coming right on the heels of the well-timed indictments. The correct response was anything but "We're both to blame and I whipped Hillary's ass by 1,000 Electoral votes. Where is her server?" That's not the time to wing it and handle the question like you're twatting back at Rosie O'Donnell.
He knew he was going to meet with Putin. He knew that Russian interference was the #1 issue on everyone's mind. He also knew he'd be asked about it in an awkward setting with his counterpart standing at his side. Just follow your adviser's recommendations for once and issue a prepared statement. "I told Vlad very bigly that we will not tolerate Russian interference". Still yet, he'd take shit no matter what he said.
He's not at his best when he riffs off the top of his head.
I really don't think he actually expected that conference to be about nothing but Russian meddling.
And honestly? I don't much care that they tried. I expect them to try. I'd be disappointed if they didn't. I find it utterly hilarious that they snaked into Hillary, Podesta and the whole democrat machine and uncovered absolute and incontrovertible evidence of election meddling on our own soil by Hillary, Donna Whateverhernamewas, Huma Adabesi (whatever) -- but none of the howler monkeys in the media gives one fart in a tornado about THAT. We aren't having special counsels convened to review the election rigging that took place there.
i get the man's frustration. I get his directness. What he said was the truth. Who cares? Why are you asking me about that when there's actual, credible, actionable evidence against Hillary for election tampering, for racketeering, for collusion, for accepting bribes? Why are you humiliating this country by attacking me in front of one of maybe two or three people in the world with the power and possible inclination to wage a war (actual or virtual) that could truly threaten us?
I really wish he'd take questions like that and go "eat a turd" Next? Russian meddling? "Your momma." Next? Did Putin order the code red? "stick a fish in it and spin." Next? Did we discuss the annexation of Crimea? Yes, we did. We have a difference of opinion there. I'd like to see us work toward something we can all agree on and President Putin is open to further discussions on this topic. He might like an opportunity to respond from his perspective. Mr. Putin? Da. Voporos? (translator) Did you interfere in the US election? "Sosat' Kozu" Sleduyuschiy?
You want a list of treasonous people? Let's start with McCain, work through to Schumer, get to Acosta, grab a handful of Rosie, Meyers, Colbert, Kimmel, Mahr, and most of the state of california.
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Here's a different twist on it. There's a Wall Street Journal piece either by, or quoting former Attorney General, Donald Mukasey. Yeah, I saw reference to it on Fox News so it's going to have a heavy lean towards The Donald. But, his take makes perfect sense. I preface this by saying, as I've said many times before, that whatever the Russians did or didn't do, there was absolutely no way anything could have had an affect on the election. These were the two most polarizing candidates I've ever seen and nothing was going to sway someone to vote one way or another.
But, the assertion by Mukasey is that the Russians thought, as did everyone else if they listened to our media, that Clinton would win going away. The hack of her server was to get dirt on her, something I imagine wouldn't be hard to do, and have something hanging over her head from the time she was elected. It wasn't to influence anything involving the election. It was to have leverage against the U.S. once she took office. I'm not saying that's in any way acceptable, just that it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the theory that the Russians were somehow trying to get people to vote for Trump.
BTW, simple question that I think we all know the answer to already. Reverse the roles. Hillary won the election. Let's say that Mother Russia hacked The Donald's server. Infiltrated his campaign. Is this even a story? Would it have been discussed more than a week after the election? Would there be any special counsel investigating Clinton?
Its exactly why they hacked her server. They wanted dirt on her when she got elected. Putin is always thinking ahead for leverage. It's also why the more they dig into the Donald the more light they uncover on the roaches who were working against him.
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Funny how many of you were adamantly against the Donald.
And now you would fight for him.
That is what the left has created. Is he the most polished president? No. (unless you count all of the playmates that polished him. According to the left)
Do we wish he would tone down the rhetoric sometimes? Sure.
But if you have been paying attention, every time the left shrieks about him, he is usually correct. Only the retraction always comes on pager 46, unless he tweets it.
The media and the left has galvanized a large portion of America to back Trump. I pray he keeps playing chess against their checkers!
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Trump is currently back tracking on his comments saying he meant to say "Why WOULDN'T they meddle in the election" as opposed to, "Why would they meddle..."
Look, not that it matters in the long run. This is just the latest topic to throw their faux rage at. They'll move on to him clubbing baby seals within the week. However, I still think he looked and sounded awkward and unprepared at a point when his critics were the most poised to spring into action. He knew damn well he was going to get asked about Russian hacking, especially coming right on the heels of the well-timed indictments. The correct response was anything but "We're both to blame and I whipped Hillary's ass by 1,000 Electoral votes. Where is her server?" That's not the time to wing it and handle the question like you're twatting back at Rosie O'Donnell.
He knew he was going to meet with Putin. He knew that Russian interference was the #1 issue on everyone's mind. He also knew he'd be asked about it in an awkward setting with his counterpart standing at his side. Just follow your adviser's recommendations for once and issue a prepared statement. "I told Vlad very bigly that we will not tolerate Russian interference". Still yet, he'd take shit no matter what he said.
Oh look how strong he is...he back tracked within 24 hours, with the whole "I realize I said this word, but I really meant the opposite word."
As for Kaos' "we're overrun with morons, none of them are named Trump." Trump scribbled a phrase on his typed out notes that said "THERE WAS NO COLUSION." The stable genius doesn't know how to spell collusion...what a fuckin moron.
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Oh look how strong he is...he back tracked within 24 hours, with the whole "I realize I said this word, but I really meant the opposite word."
As for Kaos' "we're overrun with morons, none of them are named Trump." Trump scribbled a phrase on his typed out notes that said "THERE WAS NO COLUSION." The stable genius doesn't know how to spell collusion...what a fuckin moron.
In 10,000 attempts you’ve yet to generate a single post that passes grammar or spelling muster.
Eat a turd. Next?
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In 10,000 attempts you’ve yet to generate a single post that passes grammar or spelling muster.
Eat a turd. Next?
Hmmm, did I misspell a word on the last post? Nope.
You're fuckin pathetic. Next?
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If he were guilty of collusion he might be able to spell it. Just saying.
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If he were guilty of collusion he might be able to spell it. Just saying.
He's guilty of collusion. Silver lining...he's not guilty of "colusion" though.
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Hmmm, did I misspell a word on the last post? Nope.
You're fuckin pathetic. Next?
On the rare occasions you make it two sentences without butchering the spelling or usage of a word, your grammar would make an eighth grade teacher swoon.
Stuff a taco. Next.
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He's guilty of collusion. Silver lining...he's not guilty of "colusion" though.
Underaged hookers and blow! You just know it’s true!
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Just because I'm bored this morning...
Via Ann M. Prueter Huss (https://www.facebook.com/Ann1954?fref=mentions)
Did Trump KNOW? IF SO, DONALD TRUMP IS TRULY A GENIUS.
--IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN! Anonymous (ID: fKw0X5UQ) 11/04/17(Sat)12:42:19 No.147902628(https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/f40/1/16/25b6.png)â–¶
1) This started either before Trump announced his run for President, or soon thereafter. Someone who knew what happened told him.
2) SOMEONE in the IC, likely military intel, sat Trump down & laid out the entire (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/uraniumone?source=feed_text)
#UraniumOne
(https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/uraniumone?source=feed_text) bribery scheme.
3) How all across the breadth of the Obama Administration people in high offices took massive bribes to facilitate sell of uranium to Russia
4) It involved so many people, it compromised so many agencies, the people who did it counted on it never being exposed or prosecuted.
5) The lengths to which they corrupted our government offices to enrich themselves by selling out our country virtually ENSURED they'd walk.
6) People knew but nobody could talk, the people involved in the scheme were at the HIGHEST levels of the American government.
7) So patriots in our gov't had their hands tied. There was nothing they could do to stop the sale.
(https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/f83/1/16/1f60e.png)😎 Even after SOME of the dirty facts behind #UraniumOne became known in 2015, it was easily buried, ignored, passed by.
9) Somebody took a chance on Trump. They sat him down, walked him through what happened. Ponder the impossible task being revealed.
10) Even if he WINS the election, he'd be taking over a gov't that had been corrupted & compromised by the previous administration to a
11) degree that was almost unfathomable.
>>HOW do you go about restoring the US gov't to what it should be, instead of what it's become?
12) And Trump and his advisors came up with a plan.
A brilliant plan. An intelligence operation based on DECEPTION.
13) It started during the primaries when Trump began taking every opportunity he could to brag about what GOOD FRIENDS he'd be with Putin.
14) Trump literally could not seem to SHUT UP about how awesomely AWESOME his relationship with Putin was gonna be.
15) It became a running joke, a campaign feature, engendering much hand wringing & concern among Never Trumpers, including me at the time.
16) WHY does Trump keep going out of his way to incessantly BRAG about the sweet, sweet deals he & Putin are gonna do together?
17) But go back and look. During the primaries, during the general election campaign, what happened EVERY TIME Trump did this Putin act?
18) He *literally* trolled all the people who took dirty Russian $$$ to compromise our nat'l security into ATTACKING HIM FOR IT.
19) And all HE was doing was TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING HE HADN'T DONE YET and would NEVER really do.
20) Literally ever single time Trump talked about his good friend Vladimir, Hillary 'reminded' him Putin is...NOT our ally!
21) Obama condescendingly chided Trump for his friendly talk about Putin. Holder was aghast, Lynch was stunned! etc.
22) They fell right into his trap. He TALKED about doing deals with a guy ALL THESE TRAITORS TOOK BRIBES FROM TO SELL URANIUM TO.
23) He's talking about hypothetical deals with Russia & people who took massive Russian bribes on the U1 deal rushed to ATTACK HIM for it.
24) What possible EXCUSE are they going to have when the truth comes out?
They're not going to have one. He made SURE of that.
25) Everything Trump does is calculated for effect.
So now you know why he showed all that 'Putin-Love' during the campaign.
26) The traitors had no idea what he was really doing & rushed to attack him for merely TALKING about doing deals with Russia.
27) Then Trump won the election. He and Sessions went to work.
Now here's something people overlook or don't understand.
Pay attention
28) All this stuff about #UraniumOne we're now just finding out?
Trump & Sessions knew about ALL OF THIS before they were sworn in.
29) Part of the intelligence operation Trump & Co. are running is you never show what you know, you keep your enemy in the dark.
30) Trump & Sessions knew about ALL the details of #UraniumOne BEFORE the election.
Who got how much, from who, all of it.
31) How much uranium was being shipped to Moscow, who facilitated that shipping, they already KNOW all of this.
32) They just haven't TALKED about until now. They PRETEND they are just now becoming aware of some of this stuff.
33) There was NO WAY they were going to come into office in January & tip all these people off "Yeah hey we're going after #UraniumOne!"
34) Trump & Sessions know what happened with #UraniumOne. All the dark, dirty details. START with that premise, replay the last 9 months.
35) You need to start an investigation where somebody deep dives into #UraniumOne BUT you can't let anybody outside KNOW that.
36) So here's where the second part of the intelligence operation begins.
You convince people it's TRUMP & HIS TEAM being investigated.
37) All the traitors who facilitated the #UraniumOne deal were on high alert after the transfer of power. Will they be sniffed out?
38) Well not to worry. Almost IMMEDIATELY the new President & his team end up being embroiled in a very public scandal.
39) Trump asks Comey to back off of Flynn, then fires Comey, who leaks memos to the NYT's & DEMANDS appointment of a Special Counsel.
40) With a President who bragged about doing deals with Russia, an advisor caught on the phone with the Ambassador...
41) ...everybody AGREES: yeah, great idea! Let's appoint a special counsel to investigate RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in our election! So be it.
42) Jeff Sessions then recuses himself from the Russian investigation. [But remember: HE ALREADY KNOWS EVERYTHING ANYWAY]
43) Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein then appoints Bob Mueller & tasks him with investigation Russian interference in the 2016 election.
44) MUELLER AND ROSENSTEIN *both* already know that Trump & Sessions BOTH know all the details of #UraniumOne.
Got that?
45) Everybody involved in this ALREADY KNOWS. Everybody was in on this from the start. Trump, Sessions, Mueller & Rosenstein.
47) A lot of scenarios go wrong because they start by assuming Trump was clueless, didn't know any of this, Sessions didn't either or
48) was part of the #UraniumOne coverup. Same with Mueller & Rosenstein, whom many assume to be dirty, trying to HIDE the evidence.
49) An intelligence operation based on deception calls for putting the enemy at EASE because they don't understand what you're REALLY doing.
50) So: what do the #UraniumOne traitors & DNC Media & Democrats THINK has been going on for the last 8 moths?
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Anonymous (ID: fKw0X5UQ) 11/04/17(Sat)12:50:20 No.147903205(https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/f40/1/16/25b6.png)â–¶>>147909124 >>147910250 >>147911118
51) Trump has been STAGGERING on the ropes in desperate trouble trying to avoid a KNOCKOUT BLOW as Mueller relentlessly stalks him!
52) The reality? Mueller has been digging even deeper into #UraniumOne & into (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/fusiongps?source=feed_text)
#FusionGPS
(https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/fusiongps?source=feed_text) & the Trump dossier.
53) He *has* found Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Do you know what it was?
Shall I tell you?
54) He found a MASSIVE Russian bribery scheme involving 1 of the Presidential candidates in which she compromised U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY.
55) He *also* found this selfsame candidate illegally funding solicitation of info from Russian gov't sources to smear the OTHER candidate.
56) And to compound THAT offense, this candidate also tried to HIDE her funding of this dossier by using a law firm, which is illegal.
57) The investigation is mostly over. Most of the indictments from the grand jury/juries have been made, sealed.
58) You're all about to witness something that was deemed to be an impossibility.
59) A previous administration that was so corrupt across so many agencies with so many people involved, it made it invincible....
60) is about to be rolled up.
Dozens of people are going to prison. And you know most of the names.
61) Not until the hammer actually falls & all the indictments are unsealed will most people figure out what Trump & his team did.
62) DNC Media never had a chance to compromise/thwart the investigation of #UraniumOne & #FusionGPS because they fell for the COVER STORY.
63) It's literally too late at this point to stop what's coming. That window closed weeks ago.
64) Examples will be made out of these people. When Trump & Sessions are done, NO ONE will ever try this kind of treason again.
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Just because I'm bored this morning...
Someone stolt the game plan!
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prowler, do some research...get acquainted with #Qanon and you'll understand the misspelling found in the tweets.
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prowler, do some research...get acquainted with #Qanon and you'll understand the misspelling found in the tweets.
smh
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smh
He can show you the facts but he can't make you read. Fuckin(g) pathetic.
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He can show you the facts but he can't make you read. Fuckin(g) pathetic.
I have neither the time or the crayons to explain things to him.
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prowler, do some research...get acquainted with #Qanon and you'll understand the misspelling found in the tweets.
No, you go do some research, bitch! #treasonousdirtyPacificNWhippie
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-17/trump-said-to-decide-russia-indictments-should-come-pre-summit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-17/trump-said-to-decide-russia-indictments-should-come-pre-summit)
President Donald Trump gave the go-ahead to announce new Russian election-hacking indictments before his meeting with Vladimir Putin rather than after -- in the hopes it would strengthen his hand in the talks, according to accounts from people familiar with the decision.
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein went to Trump last week and offered him the choice: before or after the Putin summit on Monday in Helsinki? Trump chose before, ultimately putting the issue into the spotlight just 72 hours before the high-stakes meeting, the people said.
So maybe...just maybe...Trump was tough during the closed door negotiations and softened in front of the media in order to facilitate some sort of relationship for peace talks.
Trump clearly said he trusted "MY" CIA and FBI investigators. I think he meant he doesn't trust the people that...oh, I don't know...said that they would stop him from being President.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-17/trump-said-to-decide-russia-indictments-should-come-pre-summit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-17/trump-said-to-decide-russia-indictments-should-come-pre-summit)
So maybe...just maybe...Trump was tough during the closed door negotiations and softened in front of the media in order to facilitate some sort of relationship for peace talks.
Trump clearly said he trusted "MY" CIA and FBI investigators. I think he meant he doesn't trust the people that...oh, I don't know...said that they would stop him from being President.
I'm telling you. The guy is playing 3D chess while the people attacking him are barely managing checkers.
I just hope the constant yowling from the moron brigade don't drown it out to the point that the real Americans don't lose hope.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-17/trump-said-to-decide-russia-indictments-should-come-pre-summit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-17/trump-said-to-decide-russia-indictments-should-come-pre-summit)
So maybe...just maybe...Trump was tough during the closed door negotiations and softened in front of the media in order to facilitate some sort of relationship for peace talks.
Trump clearly said he trusted "MY" CIA and FBI investigators. I think he meant he doesn't trust the people that...oh, I don't know...said that they would stop him from being President.
Oh hogwash. Makes too much sense. It's obvious a guy like prowler or Jim Acosta knows far more about this stuff than Trump and the best foreign policy advisers in the world.
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I'm telling you. The guy is playing 3D chess while the people attacking him are barely managing checkers.
I just hope the constant yowling from the moron brigade don't drown it out to the point that the real Americans don't lose hope.
He does not fuckin misspell words.
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Only a dumb bitch would start a thread about the president having a gas attack at a service station.
Just saying.
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Turns out that Trump knew about and okayed the release of the information about the 12 indictments prior to the Summit. I thought it was Mueller and Dr. Rosen Rosen trying to undermine Trump just before he met with Putin. However....
Interesting.
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Turns out that Trump knew about and okayed the release of the information about the 12 indictments prior to the Summit. I thought it was Mueller and Dr. Rosen Rosen trying to undermine Trump just before he met with Putin. However....
Interesting.
Some will argue that Dr. Rosen Rosen is swamp drainer
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https://youtu.be/3_s3UiWl_Uc
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I'm telling you. The guy is playing 3D chess while the people attacking him are barely managing checkers.
I just hope the constant yowling from the moron brigade don't drown it out to the point that the real Americans don't lose hope.
*doesn't
Moron. Did you even pass 2nd grade? Trump and all of the dictators in history must really like you.
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*doesn't
Moron. Did you even pass 2nd grade? Trump and all of the dictators in history must really like you.
(https://i.imgflip.com/22gkiz.jpg)
You're a low IQ individual.
Your posts smell. They smell of failure and ignorance.
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https://youtu.be/3_s3UiWl_Uc
Stephen Colbert can die in a fire as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't piss a drop in his direction if I'd just downed five gallons of water.
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This from a former President of Georgia...not the State Prowler...decent read if you are truly interested without bullshit rhetoric from late night talk show hosts...
http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/18/just-like-obama-trumps-russia-policy-speaks-louder-words/#.W080Af1oBmk.twitter (http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/18/just-like-obama-trumps-russia-policy-speaks-louder-words/#.W080Af1oBmk.twitter)
Following Monday’s summit in Helsinki, many American pundits and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle criticized President Trump for what they perceived as his failure to hold Russian President Vladimir Putin accountable for interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) slammed Trump’s “shameful†performance, and former Central Intelligence Agency director John Brennan went so far as to call Putin the “master puppeteer†of the Oval Office.
Some may expect me to lend my voice to this chorus of condemnation. After all, I have personally experienced the devastating consequences of Putin’s expansionism. In 2008, when I was the president of Georgia, Russia shocked the world by invading my country. To this day, one-fifth of Georgia’s territory remains under illegal Russian occupation, and Georgia lacks a clear roadmap to NATO membership.
The Helsinki summit did not change my view of the Russian president. As I have reiterated many times, Putin is pure evil. There is no doubt in my mind that U.S. intelligence agencies arrived at the correct conclusion: Russia did meddle in the U.S. 2016 election, and Putin himself directed the operation. Again, I speak from personal experience on this topic: In 2012, Russian intelligence services interfered in the Georgian parliamentary elections, boosting the Kremlin’s preferred candidate through disinformation operations.
Thus, my opinion of President Trump’s policy vis-à -vis Russia is perhaps more positive than one might assume from my background. My reasoning is two-fold: After a lifetime of firsthand experience with Russian aggression, I must evaluate Trump’s actions against the proper historical context. In doing so, I have found that Trump’s actions speak for themselves.
The Outrage Seems Selective
On the first point, I consider it unfair that Trump’s performance in Helsinki has garnered harsher criticism than other incidents in recent memory. In 2012, for example, a hot microphone at a global nuclear security summit picked up then-President Barack Obama assuring Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he would have “more flexibility†to negotiate with Putin after the presidential election.
During a debate with GOP opponent Mitt Romney the same year, Obama casually dismissed the Russian threat, quipping: “The 1980s called; they want their foreign policy back.†Although Trump could certainly have been more forceful by condemning Putin’s crimes, his statements at the Helsinki press conference were nowhere near as concerning as his predecessor’s remarks about Russia.
This brings me to my second point: Trump’s actions toward Russia speak louder than words—and so did his predecessor’s. Indeed, the Obama administration’s foreign policy undermined America’s credibility in my region, which Putin considers Russia’s “backyard.†There are many opinions about Trump’s rhetoric on Crimea, but it is a fact that the Russian land grab in Ukraine happened on Obama’s watch.
How, exactly, did this happen? During and after Ukraine’s revolution of 2014, which ousted a Kremlin-backed dictator, on a daily basis the United States cautioned Ukraine not to escalate in response to Russian aggression. Thus, Putin saw an opportunity to annex Crimea without risking a direct confrontation with the West—and he seized it. Putin is a bully, but not a fool.
What a Difference Two Years Makes
Rather than changing his course after Moscow redrew the borders of Europe by force, Obama doubled down. Despite bipartisan consensus in favor of selling lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine, and vocal support from his own administration officials (including Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton), Obama repeatedly refused to authorize the sales.
Instead of anti-tank weapons, the Ukrainians defending their territory from Russian invasion received hot blankets and canned goods from the Obama administration. At the same time, Obama asserted that the Ukraine conflict had “no military solution.†With these words—and more importantly, these actions—he was perceived by some on the Russian side as accepting the Kremlin’s sphere of influence in Ukraine.
Despite my warnings, the Obama administration also essentially turned a blind eye to Russian meddling in Georgia’s 2012 elections. The result was devastating not only for Georgia, but for American interests: A Kremlin-backed oligarch (who has substantial interests in Russian energy firm Gazprom) ascended to power in a strategic U.S. ally. Moreover, Russia’s meddling in Georgia’s elections functioned as a proving ground for information operations later used in the United States. To his credit, Obama accepted this reality in 2016, when he expelled dozens of Russian diplomats, but this response was too little, too late.
By contrast, Trump authorized the sale of lethal defensive weapons to both Ukraine and Georgia in 2017. The Trump administration went beyond the congressional mandate in sanctioning Russian authorities involved in the annexation of Crimea. Earlier this year, the United States imposed the harshest sanctions yet, targeting Russian oligarchs as well as government officials.
Trump’s rhetoric on energy at the Helsinki summit, which has been largely overlooked, is also a reason for optimism. The backbone of the Russian economy is energy, and Russia’s dependence on fossil fuels is Putin’s Achilles heel. At Monday’s press conference, Trump stated that U.S. liquefied natural gas exports would “compete†with Russian gas in Europe. This reflects Trump’s comments at the NATO summit, where he criticized Germany for supporting the Nord Stream II pipeline. Trump was correct to call attention to this project, which will enrich the Kremlin at the expense of struggling pro-Western allies like Ukraine.
Trump Should Amp Up American Commitments
Nevertheless, I must caution President Trump that criticizing domestic opponents in front of foreign adversaries could have been misperceived by Putin as a concession. To quell this impression and fend off undesirable consequences, I recommend taking several steps.
First, the U.S. should return to the Reagan-era policy of containing Russia on every front. Trump’s support for a stronger military is central to this strategy. Just as President Reagan advanced “peace through strength,†Trump’s proposal for a Space Force echoes Reagan’s “Star Wars†defense program.
Reagan-era increases in military spending escalated the collapse of the USSR, as the Soviet economy could no longer sustain competition with the United States on military innovation and readiness. Likewise, Trump’s strengthening of U.S. defense will overstretch Russia’s resources to the breaking point. This is especially true when the Russian economy is weak, as it is today, and Russian power-brokers are cut off from capital markets due to sanctions.
Another way to contain Putin’s ambitions is to step up NATO’s presence in Eastern Europe, offering countries like Georgia and Ukraine a roadmap to accession. In calling on NATO allies to increase military spending in line with their commitments to collective defense—while increasing the Pentagon’s budget—Trump is already taking a step in the right direction.
In his interview with Chris Wallace after the summit, Putin again articulated Russia’s bid for an exclusive zone of influence in Eastern Europe, stating that Russia would never allow Georgia or Ukraine to join NATO. The United States must also unequivocally refuse Russia’s bid for hegemony. America is at its strongest when conducting foreign policy that upholds American values.
Second, if Russian adventurism continues, Trump should respond by activating the “nuclear option†of sanctions: Blocking Russia’s access to the SWIFT international payment system. Moreover, Trump could amplify the impact of the effective sanctions against Russian oligarchs, by expanding these sanctions to Kremlin-connected businesses and individuals outside Russia, and their offshore accounts worldwide. The United States should also consider restricting the registration of Russian shell companies, which are often used for money laundering.
While these tough measures on Russia would advance U.S. interests and the security of my region, diplomacy is also necessary. We do not know what Trump and Putin discussed behind closed doors in Helsinki, and we should not make assumptions. As Reagan continued to meet with Soviet leadership until the Axis of Evil disintegrated, so Trump should continue talking to Putin.
Mikheil Saakashvili was the president of Georgia from 2004 to 2013. In 2008, he led his country through the Russian-Georgian War. Through Russian occupation and other challenges, President Saakashvili spearheaded reforms that dismantled the Soviet legacy in Georgia and built in its place a pro-Western democracy. From 2015 to 2016, he served as the governor of Ukraine's Odessa region.
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This from a former President of Georgia...not the State Prowler...
This is pretty damn high IQ stuff, I don’t care what Wes says.
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Pfft...I'm pretty sure that guy slept with a porn star.
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Pfft...I'm pretty sure that guy slept with a porn star.
I don't think there was any sleeping
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Want to know what actually happened in the meetings? Let's listen to one of the few people that were actually in the meeting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA)
#stillwinning
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Want to know what actually happened in the meetings? Let's listen to one of the few people that were actually in the meeting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA)
#stillwinning
Im sure Trumps mind was also a little fuzzy for a day or two as well. He had a secret service agent die on him right before the Helsinki summit. Not an excuse but a death that close to you affects your thought train a bit.
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I DEMAND testimony from the translators. They should appear before a Senate Committee!!!
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Want to know what actually happened in the meetings? Let's listen to one of the few people that were actually in the meeting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA)
#stillwinning
Exactly what we have all been saying. he doesn't believe the information coming from the "former" intelligence community. he IS starting to listen to the current community. Sadly it will take some time to get his confidence level where it should be.
And that is not on him.
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Want to know what actually happened in the meetings? Let's listen to one of the few people that were actually in the meeting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=CguBVX6IhBA)
#stillwinning
Seeing as Trump is a known liar about most things...$5 says that he's leaving a few things out that he and Putin discussed. There was someone else in that meeting other than Trump and Putin, the translator.
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Personally, I don't give two flippy fucks what they talked about. It's two world leaders talking for a couple of hours. Vlad probably wanted to know if Melania lets him put it in her butt.
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Seeing as Trump is a known liar about most things...$5 says that he's leaving a few things out that he and Putin discussed. There was someone else in that meeting other than Trump and Putin, the translator.
Oh shit, I forgot about the translators. I hope they don't rat out what was really said!!!!
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Oh shit, I forgot about the translators. I hope they don't rat out what was really said!!!!
He's the definition of obsessed.
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Oh shoot, I forgot about the translators. I hope they don't rat out what was really said!!!!
We blackmail America with the translator.
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Seeing as Trump is a known liar about most things...$5 says that he's leaving a few things out that he and Putin discussed. There was someone else in that meeting other than Trump and Putin, the translator.
Nobody here is going to let you borrow $5 dumbass.
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Nobody here is going to let you borrow $5 dumbass.
No, we won’t. But, I’ll let him put his Obama phone up in wager.
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Nobody here is going to let you borrow $5 dumbass.
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With as many "loose lip" dimocrats trying to sink this administration, I would have thrown everyone out of the room also.
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Oh shit, I forgot about the translators. I hope they don't rat out what was really said!!!!
Fear the novichuk!