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foxnews
Singer Chris Cornell, the lead vocalist for the bands Soundgarden and Audioslave, died Wednesday night in Detroit, his representative said. He was 52.
Brian Bumbery told the Associated Press in a statement that Cornell’s death was “sudden and unexpected†and said his wife and family was shocked.
The statement added that the family would be working closely with the medical examiner to determine the cause and asked for privacy.
Cornell was one of the leading voices of the 1990s grunge movement with Soundgarden. The band emerged as one of the biggest bands out of Seattle’s emerging music scene, joining the likes of Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains.
Formed in 1984 by Cornell, guitarist Kim Thayil and bassist Hiro Yamamoto, Soundgarden's third studio album, "Badmotorfinger," in 1991 spawned enormously popular singles "Jesus Christ Pose," ''Rusty Cage" and "Outshined" that received regular play on alternative rock radio stations.
Cornell also collaborated with some members of Pearl Jam to form the band Temple of the Dog, which produced a self-title album in 1991 in tribute to friend Andrew Wood, the former frontman for Mother Love Bone.
Three years later, Soundgarden broke through on mainstream radio with the album "Superunknown," which debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 and was nominated for a Grammy for Best Rock Record in 1995. It included hit singles "Spoonman," ''Fell on Black Days," ''Black Hole Sun," ''My Wave" and "The Day I Tried to Live."
Soundgarden disbanded in 1997 due to tensions in the band, and Cornell pursued a solo career. In 2001, he joined Audioslave, a supergroup that included former Rage Against the Machine members Tom Morello, Brad Wilk and Tim Commerford. The band released three albums in six years and also performed at a concert billed as Cuba's first outdoor rock concert by an American band, though some Cuban artists have disputed that claim.
Audioslave disbanded in 2007, but Cornell and Soundgarden reunited in 2012 and released the band's sixth studio album, "King Animal" in 2012.
In addition to his music, Cornell also became involved in philanthropy and started the Chris and Vicky Cornell Foundation to support children facing challenges, including homelessness, poverty, abuse and neglect.
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Wow, really shocked by this. Badmotorfinger is one of my favorite albums.
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Not sure I would call it "iconic".
I have heard of the band, but it wasn't on any must have playlist.
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There is no doubt when you hear that voice, who you are listening to. I wasn't a die hard fan but really enjoyed his work.
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Not sure I would call it "iconic".
I have heard of the band, but it wasn't on any must have playlist.
You're on crack.
He was by far the best "voice talent" in the alternative genre. His range was sick.
MTV, rolling stone and most other publications list him as a top 20 all time lead singer/voice. I would say that's pretty iconic.
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Curse of The Fox Theater.
Saw them last week.
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There is no doubt when you hear that voice, who you are listening to. I wasn't a die hard fan but really enjoyed his work.
See. Therein lies the issue. His disciples call him iconic. But the rest of us just "enjoyed" the music.
Being iconic is bit more than that. In twenty years, if we are still talking about him, then iconic.
But a good voice in the music industry has died. And really young also. That does create an air of sadness.
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Not sure I would call it "iconic".
I have heard of the band, but it wasn't on any must have playlist.
Wrong.
You keep on listening to Hank Williams Jr. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Wrong.
You keep on listening to Hank Williams Jr. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Hank Jr. is 67 years old. His daddy was iconic. And he probably is also. If he is on the radio, more folks can say his name than most. So maybe he is iconic also.
If I played Sound Garden or Audioslave, how many folks would name the singer? Or the band? Not saying its not good music. We just tend to over accentuate the traits of dead people these days.
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They think it's suicide. Fuck.
Not sure I would call it "iconic".
I have heard of the band, but it wasn't on any must have playlist.
Certainly iconic for anyone born after 1975.
There is no doubt when you hear that voice, who you are listening to. I wasn't a die hard fan but really enjoyed his work.
Yep.
Curse of The Fox Theater.
Saw them last week.
Fucking hell. Glad I skipped the theatre a couple weeks ago.
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Certainly iconic for anyone born after 1975.
That may be....
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They think it's suicide. fudge.
Certainly iconic for anyone born after 1975 1970.
Yep.
fudgeing hell. Glad I skipped the theatre a couple weeks ago.
I started listening to them when I was a senior in high school in 1990 or 1991 when a buddy introduced me to Louder Than Love. Couple months later, after Nirvana released Nevermind, I think they released Badmotorfinger, which really put them on the map. From that moment on, they really became a staple for me. I can't think of a road trip while at Auburn that I didn't have at least one Soundgarden CD with me. Since I got my first iPod, I've never not had at least one of their albums in my pocket.
Audioslave I never really got into, though.
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They think it's suicide. Fuck.
Certainly iconic for anyone born after 1975.
Guess I'm chopped liver motherfucker
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Guess I'm chopped liver motherfucker
I didn't exclude anyone born prior.
All squares are rectangles...but not all rectangles are squares.
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Hank Jr. is 67 years old. His daddy was iconic. And he probably is also. If he is on the radio, more folks can say his name than most. So maybe he is iconic also.
If I played Sound Garden or Audioslave, how many folks would name the singer? Or the band? Not saying its not good music. We just tend to over accentuate the traits of dead people these days.
Music people would. That actually know about these things. And how wide his range was. He's on every single friggin list that pertains to all time vocalists. No one said he was a household pop name.
Are you seriously judging music talent by who the dumb assed American idol masses are familiar with? They are the same ones that would pick Fla Ga Line over Elvis or Michael Jackson.
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No one said he was a household pop name.
That is pretty much the definition of iconic...
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That is pretty much the definition of iconic...
Bullshit.
Les Paul is iconic and I'd wager that less than 25% of America knows who he is.
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Bullshit.
Les Paul is iconic and I'd wager that fewer than 25% of America knows who he is.
I doubt that. Most everyone would say he has something to do with guitars.
Look up the definition.
I thought you were a scholar...
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This song sounds like he's just rubbing it in Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, and Chris Cornell's faces now.
https://youtu.be/qM0zINtulhM
At least we still have Fred Durst and Chad Kroger.
CCTAU is wrong a lot, but hoo boy...
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This song sounds like he's just rubbing it in Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, and Chris Cornell's faces now.
https://youtu.be/qM0zINtulhM (https://youtu.be/qM0zINtulhM)
At least we still have Fred Durst and Chad Kroger.
CCTAU is wrong a lot, but hoo boy...
The only iconic name mentioned above was Cobain. And CCTAU, of course.
You guys have already established that you listen to an eclectic collection of music.
But the rest of the world is NOT like you in that respect.
Many may have herd of Soundgarden, but they do not immediately think of the name of the front man.
I guess it takes a bit more for me to claim a guy is iconic. Maybe everyone born after 1975 just swoons a bit easier.
Sorry for YOUR loss.
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Hank Jr. is 67 years old. His daddy was iconic. And he probably is also. If he is on the radio, more folks can say his name than most. So maybe he is iconic also.
If I played Sound Garden or Audioslave, how many folks would name the singer? Or the band? Not saying its not good music. We just tend to over accentuate the traits of dead people these days.
i am not disputing on hank jr. being iconic or not...i am simply saying to your cracker ass...keep on trucking with hank jr. blaring on the radio and that 99 cent rebel flag sticker on the back window.
i am saying you're wrong about him not being iconic.
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A legend in my book!!
https://youtu.be/5qi8hhiYEQA
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Even though I wasn't a huge fan of the grunge movement at the time, I really appreciated some of the stuff Soundgarden did musically. And yes, that voice was off the charts. Many moons ago, before you could pull up a tutorial on any song on the Youtubes, I was taking guitar from one of the most gifted musicians I've ever met. I didn't want theory, I wanted to take him a song and say "Show me."
He could listen to something once or twice and be ready to teach me every guitar part. There was one Soundgarden song I gave him (Forget which one now) He listened, started showing me the chords etc. and we both just stopped and agreed to move on to something else. "No, you're not playing this."
You're right. How bout' some Hank Jr.?
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Apparently he hung himself.
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Apparently he hung himself.
Robin Williams or Michael Hutchence style?
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Many may have herd of Soundgarden, but they do not immediately think of the name of the front man.
I guess it takes a bit more for me to claim a guy is iconic. Maybe everyone born after 1975 just swoons a bit easier.
So what you're saying is, the "Iconic" label is like the participation trophy for the dead these days.
I am just the opposite when it comes to thinking of Soundgarden before Chris.
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Bullshit.
Les Paul is iconic and I'd wager that less than 25% of America knows who he is.
I know Les Paul. This means something to me: 1973 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe in a Tobacco Sunburst finish.
As far as this guy? You can be talented but not influential or iconic. You can be influential without being the other two either. You have to be a little of both to be iconic.
This guy had talent. A little influence maybe.
But I agree with CC. His contributions fall short of icon status. No more an 'icon' than Scott weiland. Or Danny Bonaduce.
Not a "long remembered and revered" kind of guy.
We toss that kind of language around too freely these days.
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Iconic. Influential. Talented.
Whatever adjective he did or didn't earn as a singer, I loved the guy's music. Grew up on 90s rock. It was my era and he was a very distinct voice in it. The music video to black hole sun is one of the things I'll never forget about the 90s and MTV back when they actually played music.
His death doesn't make me sad because I was close to him or believed he to be a musical icon. His death makes me sad because it reminds me of my favorite decade and serves as a reminder that death is slowly creeping on us all.
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I doubt that. Most everyone would say he has something to do with guitars.
Look up the definition.
I thought you were a scholar...
Definition of icon
1: a usually pictorial representation : image
2: a conventional religious image typically painted on a small wooden panel and used in the devotions of Eastern Christians
3: an object of uncritical devotion : idol
4: emblem, symbol
5a: a sign (such as a word or graphic symbol) whose form suggests its meaning
5b: a graphic symbol on a computer display screen that represents an object (such as a file) or function (such as the command to delete)
I asked Webster. He doesn't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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I asked Webster. He doesn't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Apparently, neither do you!
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Apparently, neither do you!
Chris Cornell is an absolute symbol of the grunge movement in the 90s. By definition, he is in fact an icon.
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I know Les Paul. This means something to me: 1973 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe in a Tobacco Sunburst finish.
As far as this guy? You can be talented but not influential or iconic. You can be influential without being the other two either. You have to be a little of both to be iconic.
This guy had talent. A little influence maybe.
But I agree with CC. His contributions fall short of icon status. No more an 'icon' than Scott weiland. Or Danny Bonaduce.
Not a "long remembered and revered" kind of guy.
We toss that kind of language around too freely these days.
I disagree, STP, Soundgarden, PJ, Nirvana and AIC were all the voice of the 90's. Each one of them were the sound and voice of my decade and are all iconic for what they did to change the music scene for the better.
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I disagree, STP, Soundgarden, PJ, Nirvana and AIC were all the voice of the 90's. Each one of them were the sound and voice of my decade and are all iconic for what they did to change the music scene for the better.
Maybe them. But not so him.
Not worth arguing about. Means nothing to me beyond the fact that he sang a few songs I liked okay. No more or less iconic to me than Kip Winger. If he meant more to you so be it.
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Maybe them. But not so him.
Ok this is proof positive you're just being argumentative for the sake of argument.
Those bands and Soundgarden (which is one of "them" anyway) are inseparable as ICONS of the grunge era. Cornell arguably more than the others due to his work with Temple of the Dog, Audioslave, solo, etc.
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Ok this is proof positive you're just being argumentative for the sake of argument.
Those bands and Soundgarden (which is one of "them" anyway) are inseparable as ICONS of the grunge era. Cornell arguably more than the others due to his work with Temple of the Dog, Audioslave, solo, etc.
Session players are not icons. Otherwise Anton Figg would have a statue.
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Session players are not icons. Otherwise Anton Figg would have a statue.
Also proving you'll argue with authority over something you're uniquely ignorant about.
Lead singer and founder of each of those. And how does one become a session player for their own solo work?
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Also proving you'll argue with authority over something you're uniquely ignorant about.
Lead singer and founder of each of those. And how does one become a session player for their own solo work?
I'll take his "session" work with Zac Brown Band all day long.
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You guys will argue about anything...
I wasn't a huge fan of SoundGarden, but always been a fan of Chris Cornell. Dude could flat out sing. He could be put in icon discussion for his cover of Billie Jean...the best Michael Jackson song there is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM)
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You guys will argue about anything...
I wasn't a huge fan of SoundGarden, but always been a fan of Chris Cornell. Dude could flat out sing. He could be put in icon discussion for his cover of Billie Jean...the best Michael Jackson song there is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM)
Holy shit I had never heard that cover. Damn he could sing.
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Holy shit I had never heard that cover. Damn he could sing.
Large set of pipes.
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Holy shit I had never heard that cover. Damn he could sing.
Yeah...it's a pretty bad ass cover...
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You guys will argue about anything...
I wasn't a huge fan of SoundGarden, but always been a fan of Chris Cornell. Dude could flat out sing. He could be put in icon discussion for his cover of Billie Jean...the best Michael Jackson song there is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM)
Thats pretty damn good.
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Also proving you'll argue with authority over something you're uniquely ignorant about.
Lead singer and founder of each of those. And how does one become a session player for their own solo work?
He was in a bunch of bands. He can sing a little.
Whoop-de-shit.
Calling him "iconic" cheapens the term.
This is so typical of your standard MO. I disagree with a position you hold and you can't refrain from exerting your self-perceived e-superiority by attempting to prove me wrong. When I don't capitulate to your position you badger us with links and finally resort to insults.
So let's save us all a lot of time.
I don't care about the opinion of Rolling Stone or Guitar Blog monthly or whatever linked opinion you trot out to support your stance.
"Derp, kaos don't know nuthin bout no musik. He likez them KISS homos"
You. Goat. Date night.
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He was in a bunch of bands. He can sing a little.
Whoop-de-shit.
Calling him "iconic" cheapens the term.
This is so typical of your standard MO. I disagree with a position you hold and you can't refrain from exerting your self-perceived e-superiority by attempting to prove me wrong. When I don't capitulate to your position you badger us with links and finally resort to insults.
So let's save us all a lot of time.
I don't care about the opinion of Rolling Stone or Guitar Blog monthly or whatever linked opinion you trot out to support your stance.
"Derp, kaos don't know nuthin bout no musik. He likez them KISS homos"
You. Goat. Date night.
You are deranged.
What link did I post in this entire thread? It's not there. It is typical of our arguments though, that's for sure. You say an idiotic and counterfactual thing and I correct you and you lose your shit and go straight to insults about goat fucking and doubling and tripling down on outright lies...
You fly off the hinges because I pointed out that when you responded to this:
I disagree, STP, Soundgarden, PJ, Nirvana and AIC were all the voice of the 90's. Each one of them were the sound and voice of my decade and are all iconic for what they did to change the music scene for the better.
With this:
Maybe them. But not so him.
...it displays layers of ignorance on the subject.
First to say "Well yeah, Soundgarden may be iconic, but not the founder, creator, and lead singer of Soundgarden." And even if you intended to excise him from that group, that shows even more that you have no idea what you're talking about given his and their specific significance in pioneering the genre.
And then I corrected you when you said he was a "session player" and "can sing a little" "Whoop-de-shit." The lead singer and brainchild of three ICONIC bands, two of which birthed an entire musical genre that collectively dominated the charts for an entire decade, and the third extended its life into the next decade. Just a "session player" though. There is no two ways about it but that is a factually incorrect statement. You're wrong as wrong can be wrong. And it PISSES you off when someone points it out, so you fly into a rage.
And I didn't post any link previously, despite your delirium, but I'll link you to Wikipedia now. I'm sorry you're triggered by knowledge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundgarden
Soundgarden was one of the seminal bands in the creation of grunge, a style of alternative rock that developed in Seattle, and was one of a number of grunge bands signed to the record label Sub Pop. Soundgarden was the first grunge band to sign to a major label (A&M Records in 1988), though the band did not achieve commercial success until they popularized the genre in the early 1990s with Seattle contemporaries Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and Alice in Chains.
Soundgarden was one of the early bands of the 1980s Seattle music scene and is regarded as being one of the originators of the genre later known as grunge. The development of the Seattle independent record label Sub Pop is tied closely to Soundgarden, since Sub Pop co-founder Jonathan Poneman funded Soundgarden's early releases, and the band's success led to the expansion of Sub Pop as a serious record label.Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain was a fan of Soundgarden's music, and reportedly Soundgarden's involvement with Sub Pop influenced Cobain to sign Nirvana with the label.
Bottom line is that grunge would not be a thing without Cornell. There would be no Pearl Jam if Cornell didn't enlist its core members for Temple of the Dog, which yes, predates Pearl Jam. There may not even have been a Kurt Cobain or a Nirvana, if not for Sub-Pop, which wouldn't exist without Cornell.
Side note: When 99% of the participants in this thread, and most reports on his death in general, agree that he is a music icon and you and CCTAU fart out that you disagree cause you're not that familiar with him, maybe you should have the humility to recognize that maybe, just maybe, you should reconsider your position.
And to respond to this directly:
I have heard of the band, but it wasn't on any must have playlist.
Hank Jr. is 67 years old. His daddy was iconic. And he probably is also. If he is on the radio, more folks can say his name than most. So maybe he is iconic also.
If I played Sound Garden or Audioslave, how many folks would name the singer? Or the band? Not saying its not good music. We just tend to over accentuate the traits of dead people these days.
All of the above applies to you as well.
Soundgarden's Superunknown went QUADRUPLE PLATINUM. Audioslave's self titled debut went triple platinum. Both bands got and still get tons of airplay.
No Hank or Hank Jr. album has ever gone even double platinum. By your own terrible definition, Cornell is by far more iconic.
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You are deranged.
What link did I post in this entire thread? It's not there. It is typical of our arguments though, that's for sure. You say an idiotic and counterfactual thing and I correct you and you lose your shit and go straight to insults about goat fucking and doubling and tripling down on outright lies...
You fly off the hinges because I pointed out that when you responded to this:With this:...it displays layers of ignorance on the subject.
First to say "Well yeah, Soundgarden may be iconic, but not the founder, creator, and lead singer of Soundgarden." And even if you intended to excise him from that group, that shows even more that you have no idea what you're talking about given his and their specific significance in pioneering the genre.
And then I corrected you when you said he was a "session player" and "can sing a little" "Whoop-de-shit." The lead singer and brainchild of three ICONIC bands, two of which birthed an entire musical genre that collectively dominated the charts for an entire decade, and the third extended its life into the next decade. Just a "session player" though. There is no two ways about it but that is a factually incorrect statement. You're wrong as wrong can be wrong. And it PISSES you off when someone points it out, so you fly into a rage.
And I didn't post any link previously, despite your delirium, but I'll link you to Wikipedia now. I'm sorry you're triggered by knowledge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundgarden
Bottom line is that grunge would not be a thing without Cornell. There would be no Pearl Jam if Cornell didn't enlist its core members for Temple of the Dog, which yes, predates Pearl Jam. There may not even have been a Kurt Cobain or a Nirvana, if not for Sub-Pop, which wouldn't exist without Cornell.
Side note: When 99% of the participants in this thread, and most reports on his death in general, agree that he is a music icon and you fart out that you and CCTAU disagree cause you're not that familiar with him, maybe you should have the humility to recognize that maybe, just maybe, you should reconsider your position.
And to respond to this directly:All of the above applies to you as well.
Soundgarden's Superunknown went QUADRUPLE PLATINUM. Audioslave's self titled debut went triple platinum. Both bands got and still get tons of airplay.
No Hank or Hank Jr. album has ever gone even double platinum. By your own terrible definition, Cornell is by far more iconic.
Not to mention that by definition, which was called for in this thread, Chris Cornell and Soundgarden fit perfectly.
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I tried.
Boy can't read.
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Cornell a session musician.
:haha:
Token is right. Soundgarden was the first big one. Before cobain. Before vedder. In fact they'll both have him down as an influence. As chad somewhat stated in different words - the guy had a lot to do with defining an entire genre. A very big genre. A successful one. That's the influential aspect. Not even getting into his octave range and the high registers he hit with that voice.
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I tried.
Boy can't read.
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chuckles
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Funny. I predicted your entire ranting response.
I could give a shit less about Chris Corned Beef. Yeah he was involved in some bands that briefly changed the direction of music away from hair bands and corporate rock. But neither he nor his bands had staying power. It was a short-lived blip now relegated to maybe one station somewhere on Sirius.
It doesn't have the depth or breadth of led zep, the stones, Pink Floyd, queen, etc.
It didn't even last as long as disco.
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You guys will argue about anything...
I wasn't a huge fan of SoundGarden, but always been a fan of Chris Cornell. Dude could flat out sing. He could be put in icon discussion for his cover of Billie Jean...the best Michael Jackson song there is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM)
At the risk of starting all this up again?
That's fucking AWFUL. That's atrocious. I'd rather hear a gorilla sitting on a lawnmower gargle the song with a throat full of golf balls than listen to that again. Good lord.
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You are deranged.
What link did I post in this entire thread? It's not there. It is typical of our arguments though, that's for sure. You say an idiotic and counterfactual thing and I correct you and you lose your shit and go straight to insults about goat fucking and doubling and tripling down on outright lies...
You fly off the hinges because I pointed out that when you responded to this:With this:...it displays layers of ignorance on the subject.
First to say "Well yeah, Soundgarden may be iconic, but not the founder, creator, and lead singer of Soundgarden." And even if you intended to excise him from that group, that shows even more that you have no idea what you're talking about given his and their specific significance in pioneering the genre.
And then I corrected you when you said he was a "session player" and "can sing a little" "Whoop-de-shit." The lead singer and brainchild of three ICONIC bands, two of which birthed an entire musical genre that collectively dominated the charts for an entire decade, and the third extended its life into the next decade. Just a "session player" though. There is no two ways about it but that is a factually incorrect statement. You're wrong as wrong can be wrong. And it PISSES you off when someone points it out, so you fly into a rage.
And I didn't post any link previously, despite your delirium, but I'll link you to Wikipedia now. I'm sorry you're triggered by knowledge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundgarden
Bottom line is that grunge would not be a thing without Cornell. There would be no Pearl Jam if Cornell didn't enlist its core members for Temple of the Dog, which yes, predates Pearl Jam. There may not even have been a Kurt Cobain or a Nirvana, if not for Sub-Pop, which wouldn't exist without Cornell.
Side note: When 99% of the participants in this thread, and most reports on his death in general, agree that he is a music icon and you and CCTAU fart out that you disagree cause you're not that familiar with him, maybe you should have the humility to recognize that maybe, just maybe, you should reconsider your position.
And to respond to this directly:All of the above applies to you as well.
Soundgarden's Superunknown went QUADRUPLE PLATINUM. Audioslave's self titled debut went triple platinum. Both bands got and still get tons of airplay.
No Hank or Hank Jr. album has ever gone even double platinum. By your own terrible definition, Cornell is by far more iconic.
Wow. That was a lot of pants shitting.
Just for your record, I know who he is. I've always known. I knew who he was before you did probably. That whole movement started when I was in my 20s/early 30s. I was listening to that music when you were still snot bubbling in the oatmeal your mom made for you. My view that he fails to meet the standard of being an icon has nothing to do with any lack of familiarity, but more so with the application of the term to someone who I honestly believe doesn't deserve it.
Not sure why you feel the need to insult the intelligence (of which I have an abundance) of anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as you. That's a major character flaw and I hope you grow out of it.
I really don't know where you get your whole lunatic perception that I've flown off the hinges or gone into a rage. Those terms personify your responses to me, but I can count on one hand the times I've actually been even a trifle upset about anything that's been said on this board over the last decade. I think you're projecting your own intellectual insecurity and need to be taken seriously onto me. Fact is, I really don't give a shit. I just like the discussion. Sometimes -- believe it or not -- I just say shit to watch your apoplexy. It's amusing to watch you melt down into some eighty paragraph rant over something trivial and inconsequential except in your own 'need-to-be-respected' mind. It's like dropping a quarter into a slot and getting to watch a funny monkey dance.
Keep that in mind before you froth off the next time.
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Funny. I predicted your entire ranting response.
I could give a shit less about Chris Corned Beef. Yeah he was involved in some bands that briefly changed the direction of music away from hair bands and corporate rock. But neither he nor his bands had staying power. It was a short-lived blip now relegated to maybe one station somewhere on Sirius.
It doesn't have the depth or breadth of led zep, the stones, Pink Floyd, queen, etc.
It didn't even last as long as disco.
You have lost your damn mind! Soundgarden will be playing on the radio long after you and I are gone. They definitely have staying power. Stop being a dick and starting arguments for retard sake!!
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Funny. I predicted your entire ranting response.
As I predicted you would quadruple down on bullshit like this.
I could give a shit less about Chris Corned Beef. Yeah he was involved in some bands that briefly changed the direction of music away from hair bands and corporate rock. But neither he nor his bands had staying power. It was a short-lived blip now relegated to maybe one station somewhere on Sirius.
I got in the car on the way to Lowe's this morning. "The Day I Tried To Live" by Soundgarden was on the FM modern rock station when I turned the car on. On the way back home, "Like a Stone" by Audioslave played. I just got home and told Alexa to "Play some tunes" and it picked "Top Alternative Radio". The first song was that "Shut Up and Dance" pop song by Walk the Moon that came out like a year ago. The second was "Say Hello to Heaven" by Temple of the Dog that came out 25 years earlier. Then "Falling" by 21 Pilots.
Your reasoning has zero basis in reality.
It doesn't have the depth or breadth of led zep, the stones, Pink Floyd, queen, etc.
It didn't even last as long as disco.
False choice fallacy. And unlike Cornell's bands, I've never heard any of those guys on anything but niche classic rock radio.
Wrongity wrong wrong wronger than wrong.
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https://youtu.be/AIXlb0vOTKI
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As I predicted you would quadruple down on bullshit like this.
I got in the car on the way to Lowe's this morning. "The Day I Tried To Live" by Soundgarden was on the FM modern rock station when I turned the car on. On the way back home, "Like a Stone" by Audioslave played. I just got home and told Alexa to "Play some tunes" and it picked "Top Alternative Radio". The first song was that "Shut Up and Dance" pop song by Walk the Moon that came out like a year ago. The second was "Say Hello to Heaven" by Temple of the Dog that came out 25 years earlier. Then "Falling" by 21 Pilots.
Your reasoning has zero basis in reality.
False choice fallacy. And unlike Cornell's bands, I've never heard any of those guys on anything but niche classic rock radio.
Wrongity wrong wrong wronger than wrong.
See "watching Chizad melt down".
Success.
For the record (and before Chizzy bricks another shit) I never said it wasn't good (except for that awful Billie jean thing) or that I didn't like it or that it wasn't part of a direction-shaping sound.
All I ever said (with the exception of the Chizzy bait) was that TO ME the guy falls short of the threshold for icon status. That's it. But in chizland that's not allowed. His voice is the only one to matter. It's fun watching him high horse, insult and link when I really don't give flyshit in a mayonnaise jar either way. His indignant fury amuses me.
For the record I asked Siri to play some kitschy niche shit. She asked "which Chris Cornell song should I play?"
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https://youtu.be/AIXlb0vOTKI
Gitar work....he's doin' it rite.
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Didn't snags simply post the thread. No controversy. And then a couple of the argumentative ones were the ones who started the shit throwing? And had the issues? Over one word.
I could go back and copy the whole damn first page in a quote but most here can read. Most.
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Just took this.
Fourth time Cornell's been on modern rock FM radio today out of less than an hour total I've had it on.
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Is that a Prius?
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Just took this.
Fourth time Cornell's been on modern rock FM radio today out of less than an hour total I've had it on.
One station. Congrats.
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Just took this.
Fourth time Cornell's been on modern rock FM radio today out of less than an hour total I've had it on.
Now you are just being stupid. Anytime an artist dies, they play his shit...often.
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Bottom line is this. I think "tear in my beer" is the worst shit I've ever heard in my life. How anyone can listen to that shit is beyond me. But I'm not so closed minded to say that it doesn't resonate with a generation of people simply because I didn't like it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I feel very sad for those of you who are stuck in one genre of music and can't appreciate different types of music for what it is. Whether or not y'all like it, Soundgarden was a huge band in the 90s rock movement away from hair band ballads. People knew Soundgarden solely based on the voice of their lead, Chris Cornell. The guy is an ICON (by definition) of the grunge movement.
Just because you don't like 90s grunge doesn't make it not so.
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Bottom line is this. I think "tear in my beer" is the worst shit I've ever heard in my life. How anyone can listen to that shit is beyond me. But I'm not so closed minded to say that it doesn't resonate with a generation of people simply because I didn't like it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I feel very sad for those of you who are stuck in one genre of music and can't appreciate different types of music for what it is. Whether or not y'all like it, Soundgarden was a huge band in the 90s rock movement away from hair band ballads. People knew Soundgarden solely based on the voice of their lead, Chris Cornell. The guy is an ICON (by definition) of the grunge movement.
Just because you don't like 90s grunge doesn't make it not so.
Tear in my beer is pretty horrible. But I can see how some might view williams as an icon. I don't but only because that kind of music is so far outside anything I'd listen to that I don't know the players or
History.
Soundgarden is pretty good. I liked it before many of you were old enough to know what it was. The other cornell stuff is margiinal to me. And yes, Chizad, I'm aware of the platinum status. I helped contribute to that by buying the stuff.
I just have a different standard for an icon.
Do you consider KISS icons? They sold more albums and lasted much longer than all of cornells stuff combined. They are to me. I don't expect everyone to see it that way.
Same here. I don't consider cornell iconic. My standard is different. That's not a crime. I never insisted that all must agree with me. I'm not Kim Jung Chad. I don't demand compliance at the threat of a nuclear proliferation of links and insults.
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You guys will argue about anything...
I wasn't a huge fan of SoundGarden, but always been a fan of Chris Cornell. Dude could flat out sing. He could be put in icon discussion for his cover of Billie Jean...the best Michael Jackson song there is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uWF-37DAM)
Just another honky appropriating the Black Man's creations.
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Is that a Prius?
I'm going with a Chrysler minivan.
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I'm going with a Chrysler minivan.
Well, he's a family man now, so....
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Tear in my beer is pretty horrible. But I can see how some might view williams as an icon. I don't but only because that kind of music is so far outside anything I'd listen to that I don't know the players or
History.
Soundgarden is pretty good. I liked it before many of you were old enough to know what it was. The other cornell stuff is margiinal to me. And yes, Chizad, I'm aware of the platinum status. I helped contribute to that by buying the stuff.
I just have a different standard for an icon.
Do you consider KISS icons? They sold more albums and lasted much longer than all of cornells stuff combined. They are to me. I don't expect everyone to see it that way.
Same here. I don't consider cornell iconic. My standard is different. That's not a crime. I never insisted that all must agree with me. I'm not Kim Jung Chad. I don't demand compliance at the threat of a nuclear proliferation of links and insults.
I guess that's where we disagree. I don't think icon status is based on opinion. I think it's a fact.
I'm not a kiss fan, never have been. The best thing I've ever seen Gene Simmons do is threaten to slam a guys balls in a door at Reynolds Extract while trying to settle a lawsuit. With that said, it's hard to think about Rock and Roll without thinking about KISS and the face paint. They are an icon of rock and roll.
I think the same about George Strait and Garth Brooks. They were the faces and voices of the 80s and 90s country. Every genre of music has a few bands or singers that will always be thought of when the topic comes up. Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden are the faces of 90s grunge. I don't think it's opinion, based on record sales I think it's a fact.
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Now you are just being stupid. Anytime an artist icon dies, they play his shit...often.
FTFY.
Or do they do that for "session players" as well on modern rock radio?
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His Temple of the dog tribute to his friend Andrew Bone is one of the best grunge albums of the 90's that music still holds up over 20 years later. #sayhellotoheaven
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His Temple of the dog tribute to his friend Andrew Bone is one of the best grunge albums of the 90's that music still holds up over 20 years later. #sayhellotoheaven
Agreed! I posted in previous pages. I could listen to that song several times in a row.
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If we are going to open this can of worms again....
I object to the characterization of Led Zep in this thread. I just heard immigrant song. Beats the fuck out of anything Cornell ever did. Just that one song.
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This thread is iconic!
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If we are going to open this can of worms again....
I object to the characterization of Led Zep in this thread. I just heard immigrant song. Beats the fuck out of anything Cornell ever did. Just that one song.
They are - to me - the best rock n roll band of all time. So that's a hard sell.
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About a year ago I ran across some of Chris' acoustic sets (may have even posted a few here) It started when I ran across this cover (think it was shortly after prince died when I found it)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUDRU9-HRk
I was speechless when I heard it and listened to on repeat for God knows how many times. It lead me down a rabbit hole of finding different acoustic sets he had performed. Imo his version of "Nothing Compares" and "Billie Jean" are the greatest performances of those songs EVER. This mash up where he plays "One" using U2's chords and Metallica's lyrics shows this guy was fucking brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBjyl1LvBF4
Not going to really get into the whole icon debate. If you didn't enjoy his music then thats your loss. He was a fucking legend to me (and apparently Axl Rose who in 1990 called Chris "the best vocalist out there.")
.... and since someone brought up Led Zeppelin..... His cover of "Thank You" is pretty awesome as well. Just to note, Jimmy Page attended the funeral..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQKTD3dR3s
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About a year ago I ran across some of Chris' acoustic sets (may have even posted a few here) It started when I ran across this cover (think it was shortly after prince died when I found it)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUDRU9-HRk
I was speechless when I heard it and listened to on repeat for God knows how many times. It lead me down a rabbit hole of finding different acoustic sets he had performed. Imo his version of "Nothing Compares" and "Billie Jean" are the greatest performances of those songs EVER. This mash up where he plays "One" using U2's chords and Metallica's lyrics shows this guy was fucking brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBjyl1LvBF4
Not going to really get into the whole icon debate. If you didn't enjoy his music then thats your loss. He was a fucking legend to me (and apparently Axl Rose who in 1990 called Chris "the best vocalist out there.")
.... and since someone brought up Led Zeppelin..... His cover of "Thank You" is pretty awesome as well. Just to note, Jimmy Page attended the funeral..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQKTD3dR3s
My mind is blown right now by the "one" cover. Completely blown.
Thank you for this.
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About a year ago I ran across some of Chris' acoustic sets (may have even posted a few here) It started when I ran across this cover (think it was shortly after prince died when I found it)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUDRU9-HRk
I was speechless when I heard it and listened to on repeat for God knows how many times. It lead me down a rabbit hole of finding different acoustic sets he had performed. Imo his version of "Nothing Compares" and "Billie Jean" are the greatest performances of those songs EVER. This mash up where he plays "One" using U2's chords and Metallica's lyrics shows this guy was fucking brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBjyl1LvBF4
Not going to really get into the whole icon debate. If you didn't enjoy his music then thats your loss. He was a fucking legend to me (and apparently Axl Rose who in 1990 called Chris "the best vocalist out there.")
.... and since someone brought up Led Zeppelin..... His cover of "Thank You" is pretty awesome as well. Just to note, Jimmy Page attended the funeral..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQKTD3dR3s
My loss then. That's pretty fucking terrible.
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My mind is blown right now by the "one" cover. Completely blown.
Thank you for this.
Mine was to man. I swear the first 4 or 5 times I heard it my brain kept trying to add Metallica's chords. I actually had a damn good friend, my best friend (who I don't see near enough since he joined the service 20 years ago) invite me to go see Soundgarden when they came to Tuscaloosa about a month or so ago. Between the wife (who was sick) and kids (who my ass had to watch) I didn't make it. I'll regret that for the rest of my days.
Btw, here is a few more videos that I ran across over the last year or so ago. Honestly there is much of his stuff out there that he'd done that I could take this thread to 20+ pages easy But for now....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwNpI2_e0kE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhJ9IwYc5NU
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Just gonna leave this here.
https://youtu.be/EtbuUlSGXzc
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Just gonna leave this here.
https://youtu.be/EtbuUlSGXzc
I agree that cash was an icon. But as a singer? He's fucking awful.
He basically talks through every song. Very little "singing"
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I agree that cash was an icon. But as a singer? He's fucking awful.
He basically talks through every song. Very little "singing"
Who's gonna tell him why this was posted here?
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Who's gonna tell him why this was posted here?
Who's gonna realize I don't give a fuck.
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I agree that cash was an icon. But as a singer? He's fucking awful.
He basically talks through every song. Very little "singing"
If the technical singing and playing was the end all be all of a legend of music than the band you like would have been no more popular than the Velcro pygmies. And Led Zeppelin would be 20x more popular than the Beatles and stones combined. But as we know there is much more to it. Guys like hank and cash and even George jones go beyond the actual medium. They were pioneers. And real. And storytellers. And you believed that shit.
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If the technical singing and playing was the end all be all of a legend of music than the band you like would have been no more popular than the Velcro pygmies. And Led Zeppelin would be 20x more popular than the Beatles and stones combined. But as we know there is much more to it. Guys like hank and cash and even George jones go beyond the actual medium. They were pioneers. And real. And storytellers. And you believed that shit.
Which is why said that I got the fact that he was an icon. Doesn't change the awfulness.
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Which is why said that I got the fact that he was an icon. Doesn't change the awfulness.
Dylan is another.
I don't think he's all that as much as some do. And his voice is horrid. But I get why he's a legend to many. And I think he's worthy of the praise.
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Who's gonna tell him why this was posted here?
Ooo....Ooo...I know, I know. :meme:
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Ooo....Ooo...I know, I know. :meme:
Is it prowler, you gutless trash hore?
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Is it prowler, you gutless trash hore?
Maybe you should do some research!!!
Ass served hot with platters and boom with a mic drop or whatever. Skreets.
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Maybe you should do some research!!!
Ass served hot with platters and boom with a mic drop or whatever. Skreets.
Smh
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Just thought I would piss off Kaos and prowler at the same time to show my neutrality!
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Just thought I would piss off Kaos and prowler at the same time to show my neutrality!
This may be the best picture posted on this site since the running kidney.