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Title: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 04, 2017, 04:03:04 AM
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/trump-johnson-amendment-political-activity-churches.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

More water cooler talk from the campaign trail. :facepalm:
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 04, 2017, 11:13:30 AM
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/trump-johnson-amendment-political-activity-churches.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

More water cooler talk from the campaign trail. :facepalm:

honestly, you should pick a side on defending or not defending the constitution. 

speaking of politics, voice and religion...and to further add on your comments about protesting and how it relates to the founding of the USA.  i'm sure you've heard of the Day of Fasting and Prayer as you are knowledgable on the building of our pillars as a country, right?   
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 04, 2017, 01:17:16 PM
honestly, you should pick a side on defending or not defending the constitution. 

speaking of politics, voice and religion...and to further add on your comments about protesting and how it relates to the founding of the USA.  i'm sure you've heard of the Day of Fasting and Prayer as you are knowledgable on the building of our pillars as a country, right?   

If you could read on a 3rd grade level, you would know that Trump whispered once to Newt Gingrich that he's thinking about signing an Executive Order to use the Day of Fasting and Prayer to sneak Melania's illegal relatives into the country while everyone has their eyes closed praying.  If they do see them sneaking in, they'll be too weak from fasting to do anything about it.

#AssOnAPlatter  #Served
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 06, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
If you could read on a 3rd grade level, you would know that Trump whispered once to Newt Gingrich that he's thinking about signing an Executive Order to use the Day of Fasting and Prayer to sneak Melania's illegal relatives into the country while everyone has their eyes closed praying.  If they do see them sneaking in, they'll be too weak from fasting to do anything about it.

#AssOnAPlatter  #Served
Yeah, nook.  How stupid of you for not seeing that.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 06, 2017, 02:46:42 PM
Yeah, nook.  How stupid of you for not seeing that.

Maybe yall should do some research!!!!! Gutter trash hores.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 06, 2017, 02:57:13 PM
Maybe yall should do some research!!!!! Gutter trash hores.

guess you guys are right. it isn't fun getting my ass served on a plate.  i will continue to march forward though.  i will keep pushing through pete the cat...though it has big words like cat.  i will get there though.  i could use the encouragement from y'all...perhaps a note or card.  just keep the words simple.  the struggle is real. 

#strugglenotoverwit #thirdgradebooksareforreal
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUTiger1 on February 06, 2017, 03:10:21 PM
guess you guys are right. it isn't fun getting my ass served on a plate.  i will continue to march forward though.  i will keep pushing through pete the cat...though it has big words like cat.  i will get there though.  i could use the encouragement from y'all...perhaps a note or card.  just keep the words simple.  the struggle is real. 

#strugglenotoverwit #thirdgradebooksareforreal

My buttons, my buttons, my four groovy buttons!
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 07, 2017, 05:46:43 PM
https://youtu.be/Wtbfjw42PN8


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VAST ground support...
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 07, 2017, 05:54:21 PM
VAST ground support...
I prefer non-memes, but yeah, he did do that.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/317756-trump-says-business-friends-cant-get-loans-because-of-dodd-frank
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 07, 2017, 06:10:38 PM
I prefer non-memes, but yeah, he did do that.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/317756-trump-says-business-friends-cant-get-loans-because-of-dodd-frank



you serious, clark? (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=28157.20)
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 07, 2017, 06:49:01 PM


you serious, clark? (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=28157.20)
You don't recognize sarcastic hashtags, Clark?
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 08:16:47 AM
I prefer non-memes, but yeah, he did do that.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/317756-trump-says-business-friends-cant-get-loans-because-of-dodd-frank

That law hurts more than his "friends". And repealing it will help a lot more than his "friends". I've had personal experience with it. Prowler - like Bernie last night - has no fundamental understanding of economics and what this law actually does.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 08, 2017, 09:36:10 AM
That law hurts more than his "friends". And repealing it will help a lot more than his "friends". I've had personal experience with it. Prowler - like Bernie last night - has no fundamental understanding of economics and what this law actually does.
Eh...the financial crisis that this was put into place to prevent happening again was a bad thing. Not saying the bill is perfect, and all Trump's actually doing despite hyperbolic headlines is calling for a review of it. That's the thing about Trump that I've always said. They headlines are hyperbolic because he throws the media red meat whenever he himself poorly articulates his actual policies.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 08, 2017, 09:47:43 AM
Eh...the financial crisis that this was put into place to prevent happening again was a bad thing. Not saying the bill is perfect, and all Trump's actually doing despite hyperbolic headlines is calling for a review of it. That's the thing about Trump that I've always said. They headlines are hyperbolic because he throws the media red meat whenever he himself poorly articulates his actual policies.

Truth.  You speak it.

Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Saniflush on February 08, 2017, 09:54:25 AM
Eh...the financial crisis that this was put into place to prevent happening again was a bad thing. Not saying the bill is perfect, and all Trump's actually doing despite hyperbolic headlines is calling for a review of it. That's the thing about Trump that I've always said. They headlines are hyperbolic because he throws the media red meat whenever he himself poorly articulates his actual policies.


Unfortunately government helped create the crisis by changing lending rules to begin with.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 10:13:27 AM
Truth.  You speak it.

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you just a little bit here. 

From the first day he announced, President Trump has been under assault from the media.  They've labeled him a buffoon and worse.  The entire media establishment was complicit in trying to bring him down with attacks that were coordinated with the democratic party. He has valid and constantly reinforced reasons to mistrust their agenda, particularly after watching how they fawned over his predecessor -- who was a fraud.

He's not getting fair treatment. 

He's also from a different world, one where "vaffanculo" is an appropriate response. People aren't used to that. They aren't used to a businessman who deals more in absolutes than in phony grey area double-speak like the majority of the Washington cabal. 

As long as he's doing the will of the people who elected him -- essentially every county from the east coast to the west -- they're going to treat him unfairly.  They didn't get what they wanted and are on a mission to tear him down. 

Admit to being a Trump supporter and you're automatically branded with some negative connotation they place on you with their constant assaults.  They're attacking him from every angle.  Hell, even department stores are being forced to take the fashion line his daughter created off the shelves because "protesters" threaten their stores. 

That's un-American and I despise the entire group. 

I don't see how any of you can be an Auburn fan and not see this.  There's a direct parallel with the treatment we've historically received from Bama fans and a bama-centered media who view us as "less than" simply because we bleed orange and blue.  Where we see stores refuse to stock OUR merchandise because of complaints from Bama fans.  Go in Dick's down here right now.  The store is filled with Bama balloons There's a huge Bama section.  The limited amount of our stuff is lumped in with a small assortment of LSU gear.  There are Cracker Barrels down here that won't carry AU stuff. 

It's the same thing. 

So I get him being snarky with the media. I get him not caring what they're going to say or do.  Why should he when all they're going to do anyway is paint him in the most negative light. 

If President Trump cured cancer, the headline on CNN would be "Trump puts pharmaceutical companies out of business..."
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: CCTAU on February 08, 2017, 10:33:25 AM

Unfortunately government helped create the crisis by changing lending rules to begin with.

And who led the charge...Dodd/Frank!

It was funny how they created the mess and then tried to look like heros with a fix.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 08, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
I agree 100% with the fact that virtually every media outlet besides FOX seems to now exist for the sole purpose of doing a hatchet job on the man and his every spoken word. 

But I still think that last part of Chad's statement is one of my big contentions with Trump.  It has been from the start and my take in some other thread, maybe this one...who knows or cares...still goes, and really isn't very far removed from yours.  Trump's initial statements, Tweets etc. on any subject are mostly water-cooler talk.  I agree with him down the line that immigration is an issue that must be addressed and approached aggressively.  However, when your first comments on immigration are that Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists and we need to load them all up in trucks and dump them across the border, then make them pay for a wall to keep them out.....well....

You just did what Chad alluded to.  You tossed a pack of hungry wolves a big, juicy bucket of red meat.  He was immediately labeled a racist and the dainty daffodils were given reason to retreat to their safe spaces in fear there might come a knock on the door in the middle of the night.  The Storm Trumpers have come to round up your loved ones and banish them forever to the bad lands. 

Yes, that talk endeared him to many.  He said what millions only said in private or around the water cooler in the break room.  But as long as he keeps speaking without a filter (poorly articulating your actual policies) you have to expect the backlash and firestorm from a media waiting to jump on your every word.   
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 10:49:18 AM

Unfortunately government helped create the crisis by changing lending rules to begin with.

^^^ knows what's up

Chad, the crisis went back to 1977. It takes more than a few years of deregulation under W and Reagan to cause any kind of crisis like we saw. It was a bubble that built for 30 years more due to lending changes instituted by carter and moreso by Bill Clinton under the CRA (parts 1 and 2).

But at the end of the day it was a perfect storm that caused it. The effect of deregulation was a symptom not a cause. Again, this is where prowler and his ilk have little understanding of the matter. But it doesn't stop them from pulling the trigger on things that effect others. The advent of MBS/CDO being the norm was something festered in the 90s under Clinton. They also became more populated with sub prime mortgages which were trash sitting their waiting to go kaboom (which they did). Those two were on Clinton and were at the Crux of the collapse. Once banks realized the CDOs were crap fire sales commenced and it's a domino effect from there. And then of course it touches (and bankrupts) any insurance carrier that puts their name on the credit swaps (also an invention that went uniterupted in the 90s). Bear sterns and AIG anyone?

At the end of the day this whole thing is a pendulum that has a delicate balance. Dodd Frank not only addressed the wrong things (for the wrong reasons) and swung the pendulum to an extreme, but they are the very people that allowed these financial instruments to exist unchecked - CDS, CDO/MBS and the crappy subprime market (a product of CRA, also their brainchild).
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: CCTAU on February 08, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
^^^ knows what's up

Chad, the crisis went back to 1977. It takes more than a few years of deregulation under W and Reagan to cause any kind of crisis like we saw. It was a bubble that built for 30 years more due to lending changes instituted by carter and moreso by Bill Clinton under the CRA (parts 1 and 2).

But at the end of the day it was a perfect storm that caused it. The effect of deregulation was a symptom not a cause. Again, this is where prowler and his ilk have little understanding of the matter. But it doesn't stop them from pulling the trigger on things that effect others. The advent of MBS/CDO being the norm was something festered in the 90s under Clinton. They also became more populated with sub prime mortgages which were trash sitting their waiting to go kaboom (which they did). Those two were on Clinton and were at the Crux of the collapse. Once banks realized the CDOs were crap fire sales commenced and it's a domino effect from there. And then of course it touches (and bankrupts) any insurance carrier that puts their name on the credit swaps (also an invention that went uniterupted in the 90s). Bear sterns anyone?

At the end of the day this whole thing is a pendulum that has a delicate balance. Dodd Frank not only addressed the wrong things (for the wrong reasons) and swung the pendulum to an extreme, but they are the very people that allowed these financial instruments to exist unchecked - CDS, CDO/MBS and the crappy subprime market (a product of CRA, also their brainchild).

^^^^What I said in fewer words^^^
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 10:53:46 AM
I agree 100% with the fact that virtually every media outlet besides FOX seems to now exist for the sole purpose of doing a hatchet job on the man and his every spoken word. 

But I still think that last part of Chad's statement is one of my big contentions with Trump.  It has been from the start and my take in some other thread, maybe this one...who knows or cares...still goes, and really isn't very far removed from yours.  Trump's initial statements, Tweets etc. on any subject are mostly water-cooler talk.  I agree with him down the line that immigration is an issue that must be addressed and approached aggressively.  However, when your first comments on immigration are that Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists and we need to load them all up in trucks and dump them across the border, then make them pay for a wall to keep them out.....well....

You just did what Chad alluded to.  You tossed a pack of hungry wolves a big, juicy bucket of red meat.  He was immediately labeled a racist and the dainty daffodils were given reason to retreat to their safe spaces in fear there might come a knock on the door in the middle of the night.  The Storm Trumpers have come to round up your loved ones and banish them forever to the bad lands. 

Yes, that talk endeared him to many.  He said what millions only said in private or around the water cooler in the break room.  But as long as he keeps speaking without a filter (poorly articulating your actual policies) you have to expect the backlash and firestorm from a media waiting to jump on your every word.   

It's not just red meat snags. There is some truth to his opinions on Dodd frank. The main problem is that it was written by some lifelong politicians who have no clue how the financial industry works and used it as a power grab. Most of the things it addressed had nothing to do with reasons why the collapse happened. It's stifled growth more than anything.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 10:55:13 AM
^^^^What I said in fewer words^^^

Most of the damage was done under Bill Clinton if we have to point a finger at one person. Hardly under Reagan or Bush.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: CCTAU on February 08, 2017, 11:07:50 AM
Most of the damage was done under Bill Clinton if we have to point a finger at one person. Hardly under Reagan or Bush.

Oh no doubt. It was democratic social engineering at its finest.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 11:12:44 AM
Oh no doubt. It was democratic social engineering at its finest.

People really need to go back and see the legislation Chris Dodd has created in the past. And the things he has favored from the financial industry. He truly helped create this mess. And we let him write mammoth legislation to "prevent" it.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 08, 2017, 11:23:55 AM
It's not just red meat snags. There is some truth to his opinions on Dodd frank. The main problem is that it was written by some lifelong politicians who have no clue how the financial industry works and used it as a power grab. Most of the things it addressed had nothing to do with reasons why the collapse happened. It's stifled growth more than anything.

I'm not really addressing Dodd-Frank.  My point, and what I think Chad was alluding to, is regardless of whether Trump is right or not on any particular issue, his initial, non-filtered take gives this 100% biased media something to pounce on and run with before he later tempers his take.  Presumably after he's had time to consult with those more "politically refined" than himself. 

Donald, we can't say "Bitches and Ho's", okay?   
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 11:51:10 AM
I'm not really addressing Dodd-Frank.  My point, and what I think Chad was alluding to, is regardless of whether Trump is right or not on any particular issue, his initial, non-filtered take gives this 100% biased media something to pounce on and run with before he later tempers his take.  Presumably after he's had time to consult with those more "politically refined" than himself. 

Donald, we can't say "Bitches and Ho's", okay?

It really doesn't bother me.  It's a tactic I've seen used by successful business men on a regular basis.  I've done it. 

I start with something outrageous and polarizing and then when the initial pushback inevitably comes I dial it back, I change the tone a little and I get more than I really expected to in the first place. 

It's just a different way of doing things.

Get used to it. 
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 08, 2017, 11:58:38 AM
It really doesn't bother me.  It's a tactic I've seen used by successful business men on a regular basis.  I've done it. 

I start with something outrageous and polarizing and then when the initial pushback inevitably comes I dial it back, I change the tone a little and I get more than I really expected to in the first place. 

It's just a different way of doing things.

Get used to it.

I'm sorry, did you say something?  It's just that your avatar is so patriotic.  Brings a tear to the eye.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 01:03:20 PM
I'm not really addressing Dodd-Frank.  My point, and what I think Chad was alluding to, is regardless of whether Trump is right or not on any particular issue, his initial, non-filtered take gives this 100% biased media something to pounce on and run with before he later tempers his take.  Presumably after he's had time to consult with those more "politically refined" than himself. 

Donald, we can't say "Bitches and Ho's", okay?

Fair enough. I was more just addressing his Dodd Frank comment being written off as just Donald speak. And it's entirely possibly that he is using it to be not only truth but red meat at the same time.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 08, 2017, 01:57:19 PM
I agree 100% with the fact that virtually every media outlet besides FOX seems to now exist for the sole purpose of doing a hatchet job on the man and his every spoken word. 

But I still think that last part of Chad's statement is one of my big contentions with Trump.  It has been from the start and my take in some other thread, maybe this one...who knows or cares...still goes, and really isn't very far removed from yours.  Trump's initial statements, Tweets etc. on any subject are mostly water-cooler talk.  I agree with him down the line that immigration is an issue that must be addressed and approached aggressively.  However, when your first comments on immigration are that Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists and we need to load them all up in trucks and dump them across the border, then make them pay for a wall to keep them out.....well....

You just did what Chad alluded to.  You tossed a pack of hungry wolves a big, juicy bucket of red meat.  He was immediately labeled a racist and the dainty daffodils were given reason to retreat to their safe spaces in fear there might come a knock on the door in the middle of the night.  The Storm Trumpers have come to round up your loved ones and banish them forever to the bad lands. 

Yes, that talk endeared him to many.  He said what millions only said in private or around the water cooler in the break room.  But as long as he keeps speaking without a filter (poorly articulating your actual policies) you have to expect the backlash and firestorm from a media waiting to jump on your every word.   
I 100% agree with this.

Some here keep wanting to paint me in the loony left. I 100% recognize that the "mainstream media" is biased left from the beginning, and since Trump took office, biased WAY against Trump. What I'm saying is he does absolutely nothing to mitigate the attacks. His aloof way of speaking about things make them worse. I get it that people in this thread think "Fuck yeah! That's why we like him! He don't talk smart like those other politician fags!" Fine, but don't bitch about the media using his own words against him if that's your position.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 08, 2017, 02:03:18 PM
I 100% agree with this.

Some here keep wanting to paint me in the loony left. I 100% recognize that the "mainstream media" is biased left from the beginning, and since Trump took office, biased WAY against Trump. What I'm saying is he does absolutely nothing to mitigate the attacks. His aloof way of speaking about things make them worse. I get it that people in this thread think "Fuck yeah! That's why we like him! He don't talk smart like those other politician fags!" Fine, but don't bitch about the media using his own words against him if that's your position.

I think he gives them some ammunition (although not sure how much he cares) but I also think he gives them a dime and they take a dollar. They are a salivating pack of wolves. I know thus far that the Donald has tended to be 2-3 steps ahead of where you think he is and most of his moves are very carefully done and not as dumb and random as you might think.  If anything he has proven to be a master of psychology.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 08, 2017, 02:09:17 PM
It really doesn't bother me.  It's a tactic I've seen used by successful business men on a regular basis.  I've done it. 

I start with something outrageous and polarizing and then when the initial pushback inevitably comes I dial it back, I change the tone a little and I get more than I really expected to in the first place. 

It's just a different way of doing things.

Get used to it.
I've heard this a lot, especially here.

I get that he has a background in business. I get that you think the United States of America can be run exactly like a business. But it ain't a business.

When Trump abruptly signs an executive order, first of all, that isn't exactly "coming to the negotiating table". That's "Ready, Fire, Aim".

Secondly, if he lowballs a vendor for Trump steaks or whatever, and they counteroffer, there are no real world ramifications to that. If he pushes out something that is questionably unconstitutional on a whim, or tweets about Angela Merkel's old face, or calls the Australian Prime Minister a faggot. That's not playing hardball. There are major, major consequences at hand.

Watch this interview with Glenn Beck starting at about 8:15. He speaks to this, about meeting with W while he was in office and how he told him "When you're president, just shifting your eyes is being watched by the Chinese, by your enemies, by your friends. When you say something and if you just shift your eyes, there is somebody in the world saying 'What does that mean?' He said 'You have to watch every single word you say'. Donald Trump needs to learn that lesson."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvyfgRif_pY

That's sort of the point I'm trying to get at. You can't just say whatever the fuck antagonistic thing comes to mind. You can't tweet out threats to other world leaders or domestic businesses who hurt his fee-fees. Not being hyperbolic to say literally the fate of the country demands that he cut that shit out.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: wesfau2 on February 08, 2017, 02:55:46 PM
I think he gives them some ammunition (although not sure how much he cares) but I also think he gives them a dime and they take a dollar. They are a salivating pack of wolves. I know thus far that the Donald has tended to be 2-3 steps ahead of where you think he is and most of his moves are very carefully done and not as dumb and random as you might think.  If anything he has proven to be a master of psychology.

These last two sentences are bunk.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 08, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
I 100% agree with this.

Some here keep wanting to paint me in the loony left. I 100% recognize that the "mainstream media" is biased left from the beginning, and since Trump took office, biased WAY against Trump. What I'm saying is he does absolutely nothing to mitigate the attacks. His aloof way of speaking about things make them worse. I get it that people in this thread think "Fuck yeah! That's why we like him! He don't talk smart like those other politician fags!" Fine, but don't bitch about the media using his own words against him if that's your position.

i think we can all agree you are a loony twitter lover...? 


i can't agree more with your statements thereafter or comments made by snags.  he is to social media as Prowler is to posting on the X.   

is legacy is shaping to include the moniker twitter-in-chief. 
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 02:57:01 PM
What I'm saying is he does absolutely nothing to mitigate the attacks. His aloof way of speaking about things make them worse. I get it that people in this thread think "Fuck yeah! That's why we like him! He don't talk smart like those other politician fags!" Fine, but don't bitch about the media using his own words against him if that's your position.

That is so motherfucking condescending and a prime example of why you are the true barrier to legitimate discourse, not us. 

To your point.  Why should he "try to mitigate?"  Making the press happy isn't his job.  Besides the majority of attacks aren't even political. They're personal.

I'm glad he doesn't bend his agenda to satisfy the yellow press. Fuck them. He owes them nothing.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 08, 2017, 03:08:17 PM
i think we can all agree you are a loony twitter lover...? 


i can't agree more with your statements thereafter or comments made by snags.  he is to social media as Prowler is to posting on the X.   

is legacy is shaping to include the moniker twitter-in-chief.

 *snicker*
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: CCTAU on February 08, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
These last two sentences are bunk.

He said bad things. Hitlary is ahead in the polls. She's gonna wax his ass. I'm gonna vote thrid party. Hes a loser.

Except that most everything he did, was a calculated risk. He played the dims and the media like a fiddle. He still is. 
Damn that is one lucky dude. He must know nothing of the human psyche...

The more folks underestimate him, the more he wins.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 08, 2017, 05:23:18 PM
He's not getting fair treatment.

Hell, even department stores are being forced to take the fashion line his daughter created off the shelves because "protesters" threaten their stores. 

That's un-American and I despise the entire group. 

Nordstrom dropped Ivanka's products.

(http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/vana.jpg)

Nordstrom's response...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4K6krUXAAAir3j.jpg)

White House Press Secretary...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4K5yKFWcAEApZC.jpg)



This could be a problem. If you don't do business, with Trump's kids, then that's going to be considered an attack. Regardless if their product sales plummet.

Like I've said a few times before, someone should seriously change Trump's password to his Twitter account. He's the President of the United States...his words carry A LOT more weight than nearly everyone else in America.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 08, 2017, 06:14:44 PM
Nordstrom dropped Ivanka's products.


#grabyourwallet
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 08:10:35 PM
Nordstrom dropped Ivanka's products.

(http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/vana.jpg)

Nordstrom's response...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4K6krUXAAAir3j.jpg)

White House Press Secretary...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4K5yKFWcAEApZC.jpg)



This could be a problem. If you don't do business, with Trump's kids, then that's going to be considered an attack. Regardless if their product sales plummet.

Like I've said a few times before, someone should seriously change Trump's password to his Twitter account. He's the President of the United States...his words carry A LOT more weight than nearly everyone else in America.

What's bullshit is a bunch of fuckholes threatening a store and intimidating it into dropping her clothing line.

I've already contacted Belk. I shopped there and even opened an account because they carried Cam's merchandise. I'm closing my account and will spend my money elsewhere.



Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 08, 2017, 08:54:19 PM
What's bullshit is a bunch of fuckholes threatening a store and intimidating it into dropping her clothing line.

I've already contacted Belk. I shopped there and even opened an account because they carried Cam's merchandise. I'm closing my account and will spend my money elsewhere.
They literally do not care about you. What's bullshit is when a product isn't selling, a company decides to replace the useless product, then the President OF THE UNITED MOTHERFUCKING STATES OF GODDAMN AMERICA GETS ON TWITTER AND PITCHES A FUCKIN HISSY FIT...people like you see it and think that it's okay for the President to act like a fucking child.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 08, 2017, 08:56:00 PM
They literally do not care about you. What's bullshit is when a product isn't selling, a company decides to replace the useless product, then the President OF THE UNITED MOTHERFUCKING STATES OF GODDAMN AMERICA GETS ON TWITTER AND PITCHES A FUCKIN HISSY FIT...people like you see it and think that it's okay for the President to act like a fucking child.

#grabyourwallet

Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 09:07:41 PM
They literally do not care about you. What's bullshit is when a product isn't selling, a company decides to replace the useless product, then the President OF THE UNITED MOTHERFUCKING STATES OF GODDAMN AMERICA GETS ON TWITTER AND PITCHES A FUCKIN HISSY FIT...people like you see it and think that it's okay for the President to act like a fucking child.

The person I spoke to at Belk confirmed that their decision was based, in part, on the threat of boycott. 

Yeah, I think it's perfectly acceptable for the President (or anyone else) to call out a national chain for cowering in front of a protest group and making political decisions.  It sets a bad precedent. 

Now shut up, junior. 
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 08, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
The person I spoke to at Belk confirmed that their decision was based, in part, on the threat of boycott. 

Yeah, I think it's perfectly acceptable for the President (or anyone else) to call out a national chain for cowering in front of a protest group and making political decisions.  It sets a bad precedent. 

Now shut up, junior.
Can't wait to see what he says about his followers that are boycotting Budweiser...yeah, I'm thinking that Twitter post of shaming his "poorly educated" will never come.

Sit down, moron.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 08, 2017, 09:48:05 PM
I may think Nordstrom's dropping Ivanka's line because she's the daughter of an upopular president is petty and dumb. But the free market disagrees. Why do you hate the free market?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4LAWk3VcAAJcj1.jpg:large)

Nordstrom stock closed up more than 4% for the day after Trump's tweet. It was their 6th best day on the market in 12 months.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
Can't wait to see what he says about his followers that are boycotting Budweiser...yeah, I'm thinking that Twitter post of shaming his "poorly educated" will never come.

Sit down, moron.

You're a barely functioning single celled organism.

He's not saying the fools can't "protest" (although in this case, the word protest is more closely aligned with intimidate and behave as thugs).   His complaint is with chicken shit retailers who are bending to the will of a minority mob. 

I agree a billion percent. 

When Budweiser announces that they're going to stop selling beer in the state of california because they fear backlash from the millions and millions of Trump supporters who live in every other state in the country? 

Then you'll have an apple with which to compare.

Until then?  You're farting in your own hand and admiring the smell.

#handfarter
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 08, 2017, 10:34:32 PM
You're a barely functioning single celled organism.

He's not saying the fools can't "protest" (although in this case, the word protest is more closely aligned with intimidate and behave as thugs).   His complaint is with chicken shit retailers who are bending to the will of a minority mob. 

I agree a billion percent. 

When Budweiser announces that they're going to stop selling beer in the state of california because they fear backlash from the millions and millions of Trump supporters who live in every other state in the country? 

Then you'll have an apple with which to compare.

Until then?  You're farting in your own hand and admiring the smell.

#handfarter
There's a possibility that they aren't "bending to the will of the protesters", they could either don't like having product that isn't selling or they don't like Trump and anyone from his family.

The fact that they were aware of her product not selling and that it was going to be pulled, back in early Janurary, then to come out a month later and say they're treating his daughter so unfairly and that they're terrible...is the issue.

Would you rather him force the company to sell his daughter's product?

#ShitGibbon
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 08, 2017, 11:21:34 PM
There's a possibility that they aren't "bending to the will of the protesters", they could either don't like having product that isn't selling or they don't like Trump and anyone from his family.

The fact that they were aware of her product not selling and that it was going to be pulled, back in early Janurary, then to come out a month later and say they're treating his daughter so unfairly and that they're terrible...is the issue.

Would you rather him force the company to sell his daughter's product?

#ShitGibbon

Ok, this is better.  This I can deal with.

Your premise works ONLY if you believe that the timing of the announcements is completely coincidental and unrelated to the GrabYourWallet campaign. 

Unfortunately, that doesn't pass the smell test.  When I called Belk and battled my way up the chain to an exasperated mid-level management type bitch, the cause and effect of the threat of boycott and the timing of the decision was confirmed.  In fact, she said they were going to continue to sell her products "in certain stores"(I took her to mean in areas they consider Trump territory) but to mitigate the potential backlash, they'd removed all of her products from their online catalog. 

THAT is cowardice.  That's bullshit. That's wrong. 

I don't know shit about Nordstroms.  There isn't one around here except for a outlet-type overstock place in Birmingham. So fuck them.  They can go out of business for all I care.  I hope they do. A little over a month ago, the prevailing thought was that they are in trouble anyway. They keep laying off people in waves.  Their store traffic in 2016 was the worst since 1972. So again. Fuck them.  #failingstores.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 08, 2017, 11:56:17 PM
Ok, this is better.  This I can deal with.

Your premise works ONLY if you believe that the timing of the announcements is completely coincidental and unrelated to the GrabYourWallet campaign. 

Unfortunately, that doesn't pass the smell test.  When I called Belk and battled my way up the chain to an exasperated mid-level management type bitch, the cause and effect of the threat of boycott and the timing of the decision was confirmed.  In fact, she said they were going to continue to sell her products "in certain stores"(I took her to mean in areas they consider Trump territory) but to mitigate the potential backlash, they'd removed all of her products from their online catalog. 

THAT is cowardice.  That's bullshit. That's wrong. 

I don't know shit about Nordstroms.  There isn't one around here except for a outlet-type overstock place in Birmingham. So fuck them.  They can go out of business for all I care.  I hope they do. A little over a month ago, the prevailing thought was that they are in trouble anyway. They keep laying off people in waves.  Their store traffic in 2016 was the worst since 1972. So again. Fuck them.  #failingstores.
If you would've read what Nordstrom wrote in their response, you would've seen that they kept in communication with Ivanka Trump throughout 2016 and that her product was not selling that well, so they decided to pull it for now.

Let me get this straight, you don't know anything about Nordstrom but because they were falling on hard times that they might go out of business...and you hope they do, because they pulled Ivanka's product or because they had 1972 type traffic?
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: chinook on February 09, 2017, 12:00:06 AM
If you would've read what Nordstrom wrote in their response, you would've seen that they kept in communication with Ivanka Trump throughout 2016 and that her product was not selling that well, so they decided to pull it for now.

Let me get this straight, you don't know anything about Nordstrom but because they were falling on hard times that they might go out of business...and you hope they do? Because, they pulled Ivanka's product or because they had 1972 type traffic?

Alex,  I'll take "What Prowler Doesn't Get" for $2000
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 09, 2017, 05:07:11 AM
How to end the freedom of the press...

Discredit by calling them "fake news" at every turn or as Hitler called them "Lugenpresse"

"Any negative polls are fake news..."

“I call my own shots, largely based on an accumulation of data, and everyone knows it. Some FAKE NEWS media, in order to marginalize, lies!”

"The failing @nytimes writes total fiction concerning me. They have gotten it wrong for two years, and now are making up stories and sources!"
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 09, 2017, 07:44:34 AM
These last two sentences are bunk.

In your own deep words....

O.

K.

I don't know how you can't see some truth to them after his improbable run to the White House and the things that happened along with way. I think even chad said early on that the guy knew how to manipulate the media to his liking - almost a pro at it.

This is how people are, that are like him that make their careers off of "deals". It's almost like a high stakes poker game as far as reading people and reacting. I'm not saying I'm agreeing with the guy Wes. I'm saying there is more that goes into what he is saying that meets the eye. Have you ever seen a presidential candidate lead the media into as many mousetraps like this?

Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 09, 2017, 07:57:21 AM
I may think Nordstrom's dropping Ivanka's line because she's the daughter of an upopular president is petty and dumb. but the free market disagrees. Why do you hhe free market?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4LAWk3VcAAJcj1.jpg:large)

Nordstrom stock closed up more than 4% for the day after Trump's tweet. It was their 6th best day on the market in 12 months.

Notice after he said that there was a huge sell off the hour or two after. Then the profit takers swooped in on the low price til the closing bell. That's just opportunistic. Hate I didn't have my eye on the ball on this one. Their stock has been in the news a while now for its volatility and value.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 09, 2017, 08:04:57 AM
Nordstrom dropped Ivanka's products.

(http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/vana.jpg)

Nordstrom's response...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4K6krUXAAAir3j.jpg)

White House Press Secretary...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4K5yKFWcAEApZC.jpg)



This could be a problem. If you don't do business, with Trump's kids, then that's going to be considered an attack. Regardless if their product sales plummet.

Like I've said a few times before, someone should seriously change Trump's password to his Twitter account. He's the President of the United States...his words carry A LOT more weight than nearly everyone else in America.

I said a few days ago (either in this thread or another) that one of my beefs with him thus far is the twitter hissy fits. I don't like them. Not a fan. And especially not the frequency he does them. I just think we could do without.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 09, 2017, 08:09:00 AM
If you would've read what Nordstrom wrote in their response, you would've seen that they kept in communication with Ivanka Trump throughout 2016 and that her product was not selling that well, so they decided to pull it for now.

And yet they make this decision mere days after a thug organization bent on intimidation threatens a boycott.  Whatever they may say today doesn't pass the smell test. 

Let me get this straight, you don't know anything about Nordstrom but because they were falling on hard times that they might go out of business...and you hope they do, because they pulled Ivanka's product or because they had 1972 type traffic?
Don't know anything about Nordstroms. But I have googles. 

#platterass
#fartsmeller
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 09, 2017, 08:16:59 AM
How to end the freedom of the press...

Discredit by calling them "fake news" at every turn or as Hitler called them "Lugenpresse"

"Any negative polls are fake news..."

“I call my own shots, largely based on an accumulation of data, and everyone knows it. Some FAKE NEWS media, in order to marginalize, lies!”

"The failing @nytimes writes total fiction concerning me. They have gotten it wrong for two years, and now are making up stories and sources!"

Oh, you mean like the long war Barry waged on Fox News? 

From 2009:
First of all, I've got one television station that is entirely devoted to attacking my administration. I mean, that's a pretty...Well, that's a pretty big megaphone. And you'd be hard-pressed if you watched the entire day to — to find a positive story about me on that front.


This is one of dozens and dozens of various complaints about Fox News and its viewers from that sack of ass. 

The only reason there aren't more complaints like this is because every other news organization was either licking or polishing his ass.  All Fox was doing was being fair. 

And now those lickers and polishers -- from the NYT to NBC to CNN to ABC -- are all assailing President Trump. 

So where Turdbama bitched constantly about ONE news organization for being fair, President Trump now has the entire cabal howling at his doorstep. 

I'm glad he takes them on and calls them out for what they are. 

#Prowlerknowsdick
#handfarter
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 09, 2017, 03:01:29 PM
Oh, you mean like the long war Barry waged on Fox News? 

From 2009:
First of all, I've got one television station that is entirely devoted to attacking my administration. I mean, that's a pretty...Well, that's a pretty big megaphone. And you'd be hard-pressed if you watched the entire day to — to find a positive story about me on that front.


This is one of dozens and dozens of various complaints about Fox News and its viewers from that sack of ass. 

The only reason there aren't more complaints like this is because every other news organization was either licking or polishing his ass.  All Fox was doing was being fair. 

And now those lickers and polishers -- from the NYT to NBC to CNN to ABC -- are all assailing President Trump. 

So where Turdbama bitched constantly about ONE news organization for being fair, President Trump now has the entire cabal howling at his doorstep. 

I'm glad he takes them on and calls them out for what they are. 

#Prowlerknowsdick
#handfarter
Yeah, you can't be that stupid to try and compare the two.

Fox had different segments with Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and special guest appearances by Alex Jones.

#SitDown
#GoTakeANap
#ShitGibbon
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 09, 2017, 03:17:29 PM
Yeah, you can't be that stupid to try and compare the two.

Fox had different segments with Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and special guest appearances by Alex Jones.

#SitDown
#GoTakeANap
#ShitGibbon

#HasneverwatchedMaddowCooperCNNMSNBCCBSABCNBCorMaher
#dontshakehandswiththisone
#dirtissmarter
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 09, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
#HasneverwatchedMaddowCooperCNNMSNBCCBSABCNBCorMaher
#dontshakehandswiththisone
#dirtissmarter
"I hope Obama fails." - Rush Limbaugh
"Obama smells of sulfur, smells of Hell, he's a freakin demon from Hell." - Alex Jones
"Obama is Satan." - Glenn Beck
(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Screen-Shot-2013-03-19-at-11.11.47-AM.png)

#AgainSitDown
#GutterTrash
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 09, 2017, 08:51:50 PM
"I hope Obama fails." - Rush Limbaugh
"Obama smells of sulfur, smells of Hell, he's a freakin demon from Hell." - Alex Jones
"Obama is Satan." - Glenn Beck
(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Screen-Shot-2013-03-19-at-11.11.47-AM.png)

#AgainSitDown
#GutterTrash

You braindead cock gobbler. 

You cited three instances from people who are hardly mainstream. 

Shall I counter with 90 trillion hours of comments from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the NYT, Boston Globe, Washington Post?  Or the millions and millions of vile comments from Hollywood? Or will you just shut your baboon yap?

#mydoghasmoresense
#sackofdicks
#snotbubbler
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 09, 2017, 11:08:11 PM
You braindead cock gobbler. 

You cited three instances from people who are hardly mainstream. 

Shall I counter with 90 trillion hours of comments from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the NYT, Boston Globe, Washington Post?  Or the millions and millions of vile comments from Hollywood? Or will you just shut your baboon yap?

#mydoghasmoresense
#sackofdicks
#snotbubbler
I cited those three instances to show you the type of people that were on Fox News at that time. One media outlet. You turn around and literally say, "shall I counter with (every single media outlet known to man minus Fox News that say or have said negative things about Trump including the Vast majority of the Country)."

When you champion pieces of shit like Limbaugh, Jones, Beck, Fox News, & Breibart over nearly all of the other media outlets, it's time to wake the fuck up.

#MicDrop
#90DayBan
#ByeFelicia
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 09, 2017, 11:21:03 PM
I cited those three instances to show you the type of people that were on Fox News at that time. One media outlet. You turn around and literally say, "shall I counter with (every single media outlet known to man minus Fox News that say or have said negative things about Trump including the Vast majority of the Country)."

When you champion pieces of shit like Limbaugh, Jones, Beck, Fox News, & Breibart over nearly all of the other media outlets, it's time to wake the fuck up.

#MicDrop
#90DayBan
#ByeFelicia

Who the fuck is Alex Jones?  I've never heard of him and he was never a part of Fox News.
#shootingfishinabarrel

Rush Limbaugh has never been a part of Fox News and nobody's paid any real attention to him since the 90s.
#shameonprowlersmomma

Glen Beck? Is that who you mean? He's mainstream media?
#wereyoudroppedonyourhead
#dumberthanaglasshammer

Brietbart... Not mainstream news
#murderedbyClinton
#spayandneuterprowler
#rhythmmethoddidnotworkhismommalaments

Fox News. Fair and Balanced.

The rest of the media?  Fawned over Obama, excused his appalling lack of substance and have been on a rampage against Trump since day one. 

#prowlergivesnewmeaningtotheworddumbass
 
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 10, 2017, 01:54:29 AM
Who the fuck is Alex Jones?  I've never heard of him and he was never a part of Fox News.
#shootingfishinabarrel

Rush Limbaugh has never been a part of Fox News and nobody's paid any real attention to him since the 90s.
#shameonprowlersmomma

Glen Beck? Is that who you mean? He's mainstream media?
#wereyoudroppedonyourhead
#dumberthanaglasshammer

Brietbart... Not mainstream news
#murderedbyClinton
#spayandneuterprowler
#rhythmmethoddidnotworkhismommalaments

Fox News. Fair and Balanced.

The rest of the media?  Fawned over Obama, excused his appalling lack of substance and have been on a rampage against Trump since day one. 

#prowlergivesnewmeaningtotheworddumbass
You are either blind, ignorant, or just plain fucking retarded. All three of them had segments on Fox News, Alex Jones was brought in a number of times to offer his point of view on different matters. Limbaugh had segments on Fox News Sunday.

You are literally having your ass handed to you by me...and I don't really care about politics. How does that make you feel, fuckin gutter trash?

#DoMoreResearchBeforePosting
#InbredIgnorantBammersTryToBeLikeKaos
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: The Prowler on February 10, 2017, 04:18:08 AM
(https://scontent.fads1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/16649379_256190734803865_1125940616776550486_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=53620371d1853a5e48c23b3cb5f3233a&oe=5904913C)
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 10, 2017, 08:05:57 AM
#prowlercantmultitask

Come now prowler. You know he didn't become a billionaire by having a narrow mind.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 10, 2017, 09:37:11 AM
I saw this yesterday and found it to be pretty accurate. Seems relevant to post here.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4FMo2_VcAED2Hl.jpg:large)
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 10, 2017, 09:58:25 AM
I saw this yesterday and found it to be pretty accurate. Seems relevant to post here.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4FMo2_VcAED2Hl.jpg:large)

It's close, but I gotta take issue with a couple. 

USAToday is hardly neutral.  It's much closer to hyper-partisan left than it is anything.  It's about 10-1 left vs. right in its commentary. 

I also don't see Forbes or moreso WSJ as leaning right. 

I do agree that the majority of the mainstream media -- all of it in fact if you exclude FoxNews -- is far left.  NBC is probably further left than ABC though. 
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 10, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
It's close, but I gotta take issue with a couple. 

USAToday is hardly neutral.  It's much closer to hyper-partisan left than it is anything.  It's about 10-1 left vs. right in its commentary. 

I also don't see Forbes or moreso WSJ as leaning right. 

I do agree that the majority of the mainstream media -- all of it in fact if you exclude FoxNews -- is far left.  NBC is probably further left than ABC though.
USA Today is on the left side of neutral, which I think is fair.

The only ones I didn't think was quite right was theguardian and Mediaite should probably switch spots.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 10, 2017, 10:16:49 AM
USA Today is on the left side of neutral, which I think is fair.

The only ones I didn't think was quite right was theguardian and Mediaite should probably switch spots.

They also missed info wars on the farthest spot on garbage right.

Actually agree with you. It seemed to nail it for the most part.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 10, 2017, 10:17:28 AM
They also missed info wars on the farthest spot on garbage right.
Are you going to tell me Alex Jones is sane?

Which on that list do you think is more deserving?
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 10, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
Are you going to tell me Alex Jones is sane?

Which on that list do you think is more deserving?

Meaning info wars is crap and belongs to the far right and far bottom. I don't like Alex jones. He's as yellow journalism as buzz feed.

EDIT: it was so far right and so far bottom that I didn't see it on there. Now I see it. And it's exactly where it should be. My bad. If not for Tami Lahren the Blaze should be right there with them. Beck is trying to give Jones a run for moon bat of the century.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 10, 2017, 10:32:06 AM
Meaning info wars is crap and belongs to the far right and far bottom. I don't like Alex jones. He's as yellow journalism as buzz feed.

EDIT: it was so far right and so far bottom that I didn't see it on there. Now I see it. And it's exactly where it should be. My bad. If not for Tami Lahren the Blaze should be right there with them. Beck is trying to give Jones a run for moon bat of the century.
I thought that's what you might have meant, but wasn't sure. I thought you were saying they "missed" InfoWars being on the far garbage right meaning they shouldn't be there.

Got it, and agree.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: GH2001 on February 10, 2017, 10:37:37 AM
I thought that's what you might have meant, but wasn't sure. I thought you were saying they "missed" InfoWars being on the far garbage right meaning they shouldn't be there.

Got it, and agree.

Yep. That was my b. Looked and looked and didn't see it. Looked again and it was wayyyyyy down there. Good grief. And sad because it's true.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 10, 2017, 10:40:00 AM
Are you going to tell me Alex Jones is sane?

Which on that list do you think is more deserving?

I literally have no idea who Alex Jones is.  I've never seen anything he (she) has done. 

For a while I thought you were talking about David Bowie's lover.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on February 10, 2017, 10:42:41 AM
I am not sure I agree with CNN being more neutral than FOX. Seems both should be, at the very least, the same distance away.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: AUChizad on February 10, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
I am not sure I agree with CNN being more neutral than FOX. Seems both should be, at the very least, the same distance away.
Not sure if that's on whole or just post-Trump. If the former, I agree with where it is. If the latter, I agree with you.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Godfather on February 10, 2017, 10:45:32 AM
USA Today is on the left side of neutral, which I think is fair.

The only ones I didn't think was quite right was theguardian and Mediaite should probably switch spots.
Splitting hairs, but USA Today gotta agree with Kaos needs to move more left, everything else is pretty close.
Title: Re: We should let Trump and his white supremacists rewrite the Constitution...
Post by: Kaos on February 10, 2017, 10:45:57 AM
I am not sure I agree with CNN being more neutral than FOX. Seems both should be, at the very least, the same distance away.

This is subjective.  People who lean right will see it differently than those who lean left.  Left leaning people assume CNN is closer to moderate than they are.  Right leans think the same of Fox. 

You're right, though.  CNN should be farther left than Fox is right.
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Post by: chinook on February 10, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
Not sure if that's on whole or just post-Trump. If the former, I agree with where it is. If the latter, I agree with you.

i don't know if i agree with you seperating pre and post trump.   

they are polar opposites.  like the earth's poles sometimes one shines and the other is dark.  pick your president.  always have. 



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Post by: GH2001 on February 10, 2017, 10:53:52 AM
Not sure if that's on whole or just post-Trump. If the former, I agree with where it is. If the latter, I agree with you.

It's even been a big difference since he got the nod last July. Up until then they were pretty bullish on him.
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Post by: bottomfeeder on February 10, 2017, 11:04:49 AM
There really is no conservative right anymore. Most of the right has moved left over the years. I believe it has been due to intentional psychological condition over many years. I loathe our Banana Republik educational system.
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Post by: Godfather on February 10, 2017, 11:52:26 AM
There really is no conservative right anymore. Most of the right has moved left over the years. I believe it has been due to intentional psychological condition over many years. I loathe our Banana Republik educational system.
and the Left has essentially become socialists.  Probably the last good Democratic President was Kennedy and his views would be considered right by today's standards.
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Post by: Kaos on February 10, 2017, 11:54:28 AM
and the Left has essentially become socialists.  Probably the last good Democratic President was Kennedy and his views would be considered right by today's standards.

My granddad was a yellow dog democrat and he didn't like Kennedy at all. So you may be right.

I've never heard him described as a good president though.
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Post by: Godfather on February 10, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
My granddad was a yellow dog democrat and he didn't like Kennedy at all. So you may be right.

I've never heard him described as a good president though.
Original point not withstanding
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Post by: The Prowler on February 10, 2017, 06:16:41 PM
I saw this yesterday and found it to be pretty accurate. Seems relevant to post here.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4FMo2_VcAED2Hl.jpg:large)
That seems about right.
I look at Real Clear Politics, Forbes, C-SPAN, BBC, & listen to NPR sometimes (I enjoy listening to that radio station at night, Jazz & Classical).