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Title: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 25, 2017, 01:16:02 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/25/abcs-nightline-issues-correction-after-misrepresenting-fleischer-to-make-him-seem-more-critical-of-spicer/

And they wonder why Trump is so anti MSM
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2017, 06:15:18 PM
Sad thing is, this kind of reporting will go on for a while....as far as Trump goes.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: CCTAU on January 27, 2017, 09:12:58 AM
People say Trump is doing nothing but watching the TV waiting to tweet about it.

I think people are ignorant as hell about Trump. He has people to do this. He has been fighting the media AND running a billion dollar business all his life. All the left has seen in the last eight years is a president that can write executive orders form the golf course. They can't begin to get it.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on January 27, 2017, 09:22:34 AM
People say Trump is doing nothing but watching the TV waiting to tweet about it.

I think people are ignorant as hell about Trump. He has people to do this. He has been fighting the media AND running a billion dollar business all his life. All the left has seen in the last eight years is a president that can write executive orders form the golf course. They can't begin to get it.


Read this somewhere, that if  just Trump (not president) was throwing a inaugural ball that the Hollywood elite and press would be lining up to get in.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on January 29, 2017, 07:37:04 AM
People say Trump is doing nothing but watching the TV waiting to tweet about it.

I think people are ignorant as hell about Trump. He has people to do this. He has been fighting the media AND running a billion dollar business all his life. All the left has seen in the last eight years is a president that can write executive orders from the golf course. They can't begin to get it.

That worthless clown played 330 rounds of golf during his term.  That's essentially an entire year of golf. 

I can't afford the cost or the time to play what amounts to almost every single weekend a year. 

The American taxpayer spent $90 million (conservatively estimated) for that chump to take vacations, on which he spent roughly another full year.  He spent approximately one full month a year on vacation and that doesn't include the hundreds of golf outings.  He and his family stayed at hotels that charged $10k a night. 

That's emperor-level bullshit. 

I'm so glad he's gone.   
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on January 29, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
That worthless clown played 330 rounds of golf during his term.  That's essentially an entire year of golf. 

I can't afford the cost or the time to play what amounts to almost every single weekend a year. 

The American taxpayer spent $90 million (conservatively estimated) for that chump to take vacations, on which he spent roughly another full year.  He spent approximately one full month a year on vacation and that doesn't include the hundreds of golf outings.  He and his family stayed at hotels that charged $10k a night. 

That's emperor-level bullshit. 

I'm so glad he's gone.
Yeah, you do know that A LOT of business is done on the links right? And Bush took more vacation than Obama...just saying. I'd probably start listening to news other than InfoWars and Breitbart, if I were you.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: chinook on January 29, 2017, 12:32:44 PM
Yeah, you do know that A LOT of business is done on the links right? And Bush took more vacation than Obama...just saying. I'd probably start listening to news other than InfoWars and Breitbart, if I were you.

lol
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: CCTAU on January 29, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
Yeah, you do know that A LOT of business is done on the links right? And Bush took more vacation than Obama...just saying. I'd probably start listening to news other than InfoWars and Breitbart, if I were you.


When you "vacation" at your own home, is it really a vacation?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on January 29, 2017, 08:00:20 PM

When you "vacation" at your own home, is it really a vacation?
Is it a vacation when you go back to where you were born and spent the earlier years of your life?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on January 29, 2017, 08:10:05 PM
Is it a vacation when you go back to where you were born and spent the earlier years of your life?

Kenya?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Token on January 29, 2017, 08:16:15 PM
Kenya?

Slow pitch softball.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 29, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Slow pitch softball.

Anything that flies that far should have a stewardess on it.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: chinook on January 29, 2017, 08:51:22 PM
Anything that flies that far should have a stewardess on it.

Oh stewardess, I speak jive.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on January 29, 2017, 10:20:35 PM
Kenya?
You misspelled Honolulu, HI

Even your Führer admitted to it, along with Pence.

#MicDrop
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Six on January 29, 2017, 10:37:48 PM
You misspelled Honolulu, HI

Even your Führer admitted to it, along with Pence.

#MicDrop

I'm telling you for the last time. STOP DROPPING THE MICROPHONES! You are damaging the diaphragm, the coil, not to mention the magnet and the hella headache you give everyone listening to the feedback.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: GH2001 on January 30, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
You misspelled Honolulu, HI

Even your Führer admitted to it, along with Pence.

#MicDrop

And how much did each cost as compared to W's trip back to his actual home in Texas? Pick your stupid mic back up. You shouldn't have dropped it in the first place.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on January 30, 2017, 11:32:57 AM
You misspelled Honolulu, HI

Even your Führer admitted to it, along with Pence.

#MicDrop

I don't care what he said out of political expediency because the media tried to make an issue out of something to tear him down. 

It's too late to do anything about it anyway because he's gone, but there's too much fishy stuff about Obama's history to suit me.  Too many gaps, too many unexplained issues, too much backfilling, too many lies. 

He was the result of the socialist/communist long game that's been perpetrated on this country since the 1960s.   It started with King and Parks, it continued with the takeover of the educational system by liberal radicals.  It burrowed into churches. 

We had one chance to stop it. 

Trump. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: GH2001 on January 30, 2017, 12:10:53 PM
I don't care what he said out of political expediency because the media tried to make an issue out of something to tear him down. 

It's too late to do anything about it anyway because he's gone, but there's too much fishy stuff about Obama's history to suit me.  Too many gaps, too many unexplained issues, too much backfilling, too many lies. 

He was the result of the socialist/communist long game that's been perpetrated on this country since the 1960s.   It started with King and Parks, it continued with the takeover of the educational system by liberal radicals.  It burrowed into churches. 

We had one chance to stop it. 

Trump.

They all do Alinskys work and don't even know it.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Token on January 30, 2017, 06:43:38 PM
And how much did each cost as compared to W's trip back to his actual home in Texas? Pick your stupid mic back up. You shouldn't have dropped it in the first place.

He thinks they are free.  Doesn't matter how many he drops.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on January 30, 2017, 11:10:56 PM
And how much did each cost as compared to W's trip back to his actual home in Texas? Pick your stupid mic back up. You shouldn't have dropped it in the first place.
Bush's trips to his ranch in Texas, tax payer's cost...$20 Million
Obama's trips to his birthplace and where he was raised, tax payer's cost...$4.5 Million

#MicDrop
#YouAreDone
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: CCTAU on January 31, 2017, 08:39:41 AM
Bush's trips to his ranch in Texas, tax payer's cost...$20 Million
Obama's trips to his birthplace and where he was raised, tax payer's cost...$4.5 Million

#MicDrop
#YouAreDone

How we conveniently you forget the golf outings and how much did you say moochelle spent on vacations?
You do know that his family counts too, right?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: GH2001 on January 31, 2017, 09:48:37 AM
Bush's trips to his ranch in Texas, tax payer's cost...$20 Million
Obama's trips to his birthplace and where he was raised, tax payer's cost...$4.5 Million

#MicDrop
#YouAreDone

O. K. 

You just compared apples and oranges. Each Obama trip to Hawaii is 4 million. ALL of W's trips to Texas were 20.

Back to your hole and straight jacket.

You also gonna mention that Barry went back to visit "pops"? You know, Frank Marshall Davis. The communist.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUJarhead on January 31, 2017, 10:00:09 AM
Bush's trips to his ranch in Texas, tax payer's cost...$20 Million
Obama's trips to his birthplace and where he was raised, tax payer's cost...$4.5 Million

#MicDrop
#YouAreDone

Obama's 2015 Hawaiian trip cost 4.5M total.  Not the total costs of all his vacations he took in 8 years.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/obama-familys-2015-hawaii-vacation-cost-taxpayers-4823206-88/

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Judicial Watch announced today that it obtained records from the U.S. Secret Service revealing that its travel expenses for the First Family’s 2015 Hawaiian vacation cost taxpayers $1.2 million, which brings the total cost of the vacation trip to at least $4.8 million. This was the Obamas’ eighth Hawaiian family vacation. The trip has become an annual event for the Obamas. To date, Obama’s and his family’s travel expenses total at least $85,029,819.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: GH2001 on January 31, 2017, 10:15:28 AM
Obama's 2015 Hawaiian trip cost 4.5M total.  Not the total costs of all his vacations he took in 8 years.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/obama-familys-2015-hawaii-vacation-cost-taxpayers-4823206-88/

Gets it ^^^^
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on January 31, 2017, 11:56:34 AM
https://pjmedia.com/election/2017/01/30/chuck-todd-admits-media-treated-hillary-with-kid-gloves/


If you thought there was something fishy about the way the mainstream media kept trying to tell you that Hillary Clinton's election was a foregone conclusion, you were right:


NBC’s Chuck Todd confessed that he and others in the mainstream news media played down just how despised Hillary Clinton was in the heartland due to the fear of appearing “sexist.” What’s more, he admitted, the mainstream media failed to “tell the stories of all Americans.”

“Where I think political correctness got in the way of what we all knew as reporters and didn’t fully deliver was how hated the Clintons were in the heartland,” the “Meet the Press” host admitted Thursday to former Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer in a interview for the “1947” podcast.

“And I think it was a fear of, ‘Oh, is it going to look like it’s sexist, anti-woman if we say that?’” he added, pointing out that on the hustings he saw numerous “Hillary for Prison” signs adorning the front yards of rural America. “I think we underplayed it a little bit out of political correctness fears,” Mr. Todd said. “No member of the press corps wants to look like they’re singling out a group and making a group feel bad, right, whatever that [group] is.

“If we sort of were straight-up honest and blunt about hey do we understand the level of hatred that’s out there and you know, all the Hillary for Prison signs that are out there, we certainly would have at least made the viewer know, hey, you know, she’s not well-liked in some places in this country in ways that’s times 10 when it comes to Trump,” he said.

Groupthink is an occupational hazard of reporting, as every reporter wants to break a story but nobody wants to be the first to tell an unpleasant truth. Todd, who began his career working on former Iowa senator Tom Harkin's DOA presidential campaign, has been a Democrat shill for his entire career, and in fact may be the most visible symbol of what the late Andrew Breitbart famously called the Democrat-Media Complex.

If this election results in nothing more than the end of MSM dominance over the public discourse, it all will have been well worth it. Instead, the lefties on the media (many of whom, like Todd, have blocked me on Twitter for the crime of publicly disagreeing with them) have continued to double down on a losing hand, thereby exposing just how very dishonest and desperate they really are.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on January 31, 2017, 12:57:33 PM
https://pjmedia.com/election/2017/01/30/chuck-todd-admits-media-treated-hillary-with-kid-gloves/


If you thought there was something fishy about the way the mainstream media kept trying to tell you that Hillary Clinton's election was a foregone conclusion, you were right:


NBC’s Chuck Todd confessed that he and others in the mainstream news media played down just how despised Hillary Clinton was in the heartland due to the fear of appearing “sexist.” What’s more, he admitted, the mainstream media failed to “tell the stories of all Americans.”

“Where I think political correctness got in the way of what we all knew as reporters and didn’t fully deliver was how hated the Clintons were in the heartland,” the “Meet the Press” host admitted Thursday to former Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer in a interview for the “1947” podcast.

“And I think it was a fear of, ‘Oh, is it going to look like it’s sexist, anti-woman if we say that?’” he added, pointing out that on the hustings he saw numerous “Hillary for Prison” signs adorning the front yards of rural America. “I think we underplayed it a little bit out of political correctness fears,” Mr. Todd said. “No member of the press corps wants to look like they’re singling out a group and making a group feel bad, right, whatever that [group] is.

“If we sort of were straight-up honest and blunt about hey do we understand the level of hatred that’s out there and you know, all the Hillary for Prison signs that are out there, we certainly would have at least made the viewer know, hey, you know, she’s not well-liked in some places in this country in ways that’s times 10 when it comes to Trump,” he said.

Groupthink is an occupational hazard of reporting, as every reporter wants to break a story but nobody wants to be the first to tell an unpleasant truth. Todd, who began his career working on former Iowa senator Tom Harkin's DOA presidential campaign, has been a Democrat shill for his entire career, and in fact may be the most visible symbol of what the late Andrew Breitbart famously called the Democrat-Media Complex.

If this election results in nothing more than the end of MSM dominance over the public discourse, it all will have been well worth it. Instead, the lefties on the media (many of whom, like Todd, have blocked me on Twitter for the crime of publicly disagreeing with them) have continued to double down on a losing hand, thereby exposing just how very dishonest and desperate they really are.

No member of the press craps wants to single out a group and make them feel bad?

Oh yeah? 

The war on Trump supporters and the broad negative brush with which we were painted begs to differ. Strongly.

I'm tired of these fools.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 06, 2017, 03:48:14 AM
That worthless clown played 330 rounds of golf during his term.  That's essentially an entire year of golf. 

I can't afford the cost or the time to play what amounts to almost every single weekend a year. 

The American taxpayer spent $90 million (conservatively estimated) for that chump to take vacations, on which he spent roughly another full year.  He spent approximately one full month a year on vacation and that doesn't include the hundreds of golf outings.  He and his family stayed at hotels that charged $10k a night. 

That's emperor-level bullshit. 

I'm so glad he's gone.
Aaaand Trump was out playing golf this weekend and watching the Super Bowl last night at his Mar-a-lago resort/Trump Golf Club.

So, you gonna bitch about that Kaos? He was on vacation, playing golf, after just two weeks of playing President.

Also remember he stated this a little while back, “I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done...I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off."
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 06, 2017, 06:57:42 AM
Aaaand Trump was out playing golf this weekend and watching the Super Bowl last night at his Mar-a-lago resort/Trump Golf Club.

So, you gonna bitch about that Kaos? He was on vacation, playing golf, after just two weeks of playing President.

Also remember he stated this a little while back, “I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done...I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off."

The dumbass is strong with this one.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 20, 2017, 06:13:18 AM
"The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. @foxandfriends is great!" - Trump tweet



https://youtu.be/g7LQ3pkzUJs


I wonder if he still thinks Fox & Friends is great?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 20, 2017, 06:35:09 AM
"The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. @foxandfriends is great!" - Trump tweet



https://youtu.be/g7LQ3pkzUJs


I wonder if he still thinks Fox & Friends is great?
I don't disagree with anything Wallace said. There's still a lot of fake news out there. I don't agree that they are an enemy to the people.  But they definitely are biased.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 21, 2017, 06:10:11 PM
"I'm taking on a new role as occasional information source and validator for the President." - Alex Jones in a phone interview with the NY TIMES.

If that doesn't worry most of the Trump supporters...then they are a lost cause and will likely never be able to grasp reality again.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Token on February 21, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
"I'm taking on a new role as occasional information source and validator for the President." - Alex Jones in a phone interview with the NY TIMES.

If that doesn't worry most of the Trump supporters...then they are a lost cause and will likely never be able to grasp reality again.

Reality left this country when Bernie Sanders was an actual candidate for presidency.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 21, 2017, 09:15:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3VVpVBFXWw

Nails it. 

Adore her.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 11:49:23 AM
THIS is what fair and balanced looks like. 

This is actually what Chizad should try to say instead of taking dumps in his pants and insulting people.  This is something with which I agree.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/22/john-stossel-trump-media-should-stop-making-things-up.html

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"Fake News!" shouts our president, calling out CNN, The New York Times and others.

I love it.

Although it's not really true -- not the way President Donald Trump means it. The media rarely "fake" anything. Over time, they generally get the facts correct.

But the president makes a good point: The smug lamestream media spin left but won't admit it.

At ABC News, my colleagues acted as if I was the only guy in the building with an opinion. Everyone else was "in the middle." This was nonsense. Almost all were leftists. They constantly pushed big government. Their bias was revealed in questions they asked, the "experts" they chose to interview and their endless calls for political correctness and new regulation.

Unfortunately, Trump is now just as ridiculous, claiming that "crime is reaching record levels" when it's half what it was 25 years ago. He claimed, "We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban," and that he had "the biggest electoral college win since Reagan," and so on.

This is absurd. Facts are facts. Trump shouldn't make things up.

But I still love his "Fake!" tweets because much of what media spew is misleading.

I did it myself. On "20/20," my consumer reports covered exploding coffee pots and risks posed by pesticides used on lawns. ("Danger in the Grass!")

These weren't lies. A few personal injury lawyers did have clients injured by coffee pots. One man's skin peeled off after he played golf on a freshly sprayed course. The injuries were horrible.

But in terms of consumer protection, this "news" was irrelevant and misleading. It's a big country. Rare and horrible things happen. I wised up eventually, realizing that those threats distract people from real threats, like driving in the rain, drinking too much, smoking, etc.

But my peers continue to terrify people about trivial or nonexistent threats from power lines, hair dye, saccharin, NutraSweet, Teflon pans, electric blankets, computer terminals, cellphones, "killer" bees and more. They win awards for it.

In 1999, the media said planes would crash because computers couldn't handle the switch to the year 2000. Now they claim global warming will drown us if we don't honor meaningless climate treaties. They imply that polar bears are vanishing, although scientists studying 13 polar bear populations found "12 stable/increasing and one declining."

On Friday, Trump varied his attack, calling The New York Times, NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN "the enemy of the American people."

Enemy?

Maybe Trump said that because he's a narcissist who thinks he is "the American people" and the media run antagonistic headlines like:

"Doomsday Clock Ticks 30 Seconds Closer to Global Annihilation Thanks to Trump, Scientists Say" -- NBCNews.com

"...Trump will Destroy the Environment..." -- The Intercept

"Trump Will Destroy Public Education If We Let Him" -- Huffington Post op-ed

"Is Donald Trump a Threat to Democracy?" -- New York Times

"How Trump's Speech to the CIA Endangered America" -- The Atlantic

These claims are a mix of opinion and click-bait. All are possible. Trump could be the infantile, petulant authoritarian some of us fear. Terrible things may happen. But they haven't yet, and much of what's written deserves the label "fake news."

The press is depressingly shallow. They blow up little things, speculate about conspiracies and constantly obsess about "who's winning?" Offensive remarks are taken out of context and amplified. Days later, it's forgotten and the media move on to the next sensational accusation. They rarely explain the policies at stake, what those policies cost, past success or failure or the laws of economics.

As a result, we miss the real news: the big, important changes that happen slowly. Remember the coverage of the beginning of the women's movement, the invention of the computer chip, Google, Facebook, etc.? No? That's because there wasn't any. But the growth of Facebook alone changed lives more than the election of any politician.

Wages rise -- inflation-adjusted household income rose $7,000 over the last 30 years. But the media claim that the middle class and the poor get poorer.

We live longer than ever. Crime is down. But Americans are fearful and pessimistic because what they read and see on TV makes them believe life's getting worse. When the media do that, they are indeed enemies of the people.

Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 22, 2017, 11:54:01 AM
THIS is what fair and balanced looks like. 

This is actually what Chizad should try to say instead of taking dumps in his pants and insulting people.  This is something with which I agree.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/22/john-stossel-trump-media-should-stop-making-things-up.html
Don't see how that's so different from what I said.

I agree 100% with that, by the way.

Also, you may want to know that Stossel is a staunch (gasp) Libertarian!!!
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 22, 2017, 11:58:41 AM
Don't see how that's so different from what I said.

I agree 100% with that, by the way.

Also, you may want to know that Stossel is a staunch (gasp) Libertarian!!!

I fail to see what the man's sexual orientation has to do with any of this.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 22, 2017, 11:59:27 AM
Another piece that I thought was good and says basically the same thing.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445054/media-trump-both-unreliable

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The Press vs. the President
February 19, 2017 4:00 AM

Choosing sides is no substitute for thinking

The problem with the man currently leading the Republican party is that he is, as the Washington Post puts it, a hostage to the “fanatical policies of the extreme right.” His administration “insults women” and his unwelcome presence in public life “insults us all.” And, because the Republican party is all about the winning these days, the GOP establishment is “ready to forgive” . . . what? . . . “just about anything — as long as he wins.”

So says the Post, which is not alone in this estimate: Extreme on economic issues, extreme on the so-called social issues, he even has had an “extreme foreign-policy makeover,” according to The Atlantic. His views on immigration, MSNBC says, represent the Republican party “shrinking down to its most extreme elements.” One cable-news panelist insists he was the most extreme Republican presidential candidate ever. Paul Krugman laments that he has forsaken all serious policy thinking for “dangerous fantasy.” Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times is also alert to the “dangers” he presents, the “most dangerous of all” being his views on Iran, though Kristof also worries that he is too buddy-buddy with that awful, scheming Benjamin Netanyahu. Predictably, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow dogpiled him for his perplexing relationship with Moscow. Vice calls him a “sociopath” and Maureen Dowd dismissed him as “an out-of-touch plutocrat” who keeps “his true nature . . . buried where we can’t see it,” a devious figure who is so awful deep down inside that he “must hide an essential part of who he is” from the public.

President Mitt Romney sounds like he would have been a riot. Alas, his presidency never came to pass, thanks in no small part to the hysteria chronicled above. Every Republican president is “the most extreme ever,” or so Democrats and their media friends insist.

(“We do always say that,” one Democratic friend acknowledged. “And it is always true.” Well . . . )

In this corner, the American Press; in the opposite corner, the American President. The time has come for choosing sides — or so do many of our friends on the left and in the media (there is some crossover in that group) insist, as do more than a few of our friends on the right.

On Friday, I was scolded by Joe Hagan of New York magazine (he must have taken a break from the vital service he is offering to the republic at the moment, composing a biography of Jann Wenner) for daring to criticize my media colleagues in the age of Trump, “since you are supposedly a journalist.” It is, he insisted, “as if you, as a conservative, can’t see objective reality along with somebody you assume is a political opposite.” No, it is as if the American news media are predictably biased and incompetent, and would be writing almost precisely what they are writing about Donald Trump if the election had been won by Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, or Pat Sajak. Or, as the example above shows, Mitt Romney, who is a great many things (some of them admirable) but hardly an “extremist” or a “danger” to the republic.

It is possible, if you are not mentally crippled, to hold in your mind two non-exclusive ideas: Donald J. Trump stinks, and the press stinks. Trump’s spat with the press is a bloodless Iran–Iraq war, and I myself am cheering for (metaphorical) casualties. If you find yourself only able to focus on which party stinks worse, then you have adopted the pre-kindergarten “binary choice” rhetoric of the campaign, in which both Trump and Clinton supporters insisted that we must ignore the obvious character defects, financial shenanigans, lies, and foolishness of A or B on the theory that B or A is so much worse that we simply cannot acknowledge any shortcomings on the other side.

Those of us who have not entirely surrendered our neocortices to one cable-news tribe or the other are perfectly capable of criticizing Trump and criticizing the media.

Of course the American media are terrible. Everybody knows this. Everybody who follows the public debate about guns, taxes, or abortion knows this. Dean Baquet, the executive editor of the New York Times, knows this, which is why he sheepishly acknowledged that the so-called Newspaper of Record and its editors “don’t get religion.” And that is just a little bit of what they don’t get. Other senior editors at major media outlets know this, too. The people who run the Washington Post know this. The reflexive Democratic affiliation of most of the major media is a simple fact of life that you’d have to be foolish or dishonest to deny: Hell, I got the business about being a conservative when I was being considered for a copy-editor’s job a million years ago at the Philadelphia Inquirer — working in the sports section.

The tragedy of all this is that, yeah, we really could use an effective, active, and credible press right now. We have an active one five days out of the week, an effective one five days out of the month, and a credible one . . . not that often. My criticisms of Trump do not go so far as those who believe that he is a budding fascist dictator on the verge of building concentration camps, but if you really did believe that, wouldn’t you wish, at least a little, that the media hadn’t been exactly as hysterical when faced with the bland, anodyne visage of Mitt Romney? Or John McCain? You want to be taken seriously now after insisting that Dick Cheney was the new American Gestapo?

The last wolf show we bought tickets for wasn’t really all that spectacularly lupine.

It would be really very useful to have an authoritative source. I do not agree with Barack Obama about much of anything, but there is something to his argument that our public discourse suffers from our lack of anything that might be generally agreed upon as an authoritative source. The problem is that Barack Obama believes that this authoritative source should be Rachel Maddow or someone like her, or the editorial columns of the New York Times, dopey and predictable as they are. And, of course, there are people like Joe Hagan of New York, who believe that the current moment is simply too dangerous — it’s always dangerous with these people — to acknowledge that.

Hagan’s opposite number is a correspondent who on the same day sneered at me for relying on the New York Times as a source for a historical question, because we all know that no conservative can trust the New York Times. The Times column in question was written by the eminent historian John Lukacs, whose conservative bona fides are such that there is literally a chapter on him in a book called Catholic Intellectuals and Conservative Politics in America 1950–1985, alongside Russell Kirk, Michael Novak (RIP), and William F. Buckley Jr. It did not matter to him what was written or by whom, only that it came from the other side — from the enemy camp.

We deserve a better press, and a better president, too. If you are the sort of partisan who cannot entertain the possibility that both of these things may be true at the same time, then you ought to consider the possibility that you are one of the reasons why we do not have a better press or a better president.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 22, 2017, 12:09:24 PM
"It is possible, if you are not mentally crippled, to hold in your mind two non-exclusive ideas: Donald J. Trump stinks, and the press stinks. Trump’s spat with the press is a bloodless Iran–Iraq war, and I myself am cheering for (metaphorical) casualties. If you find yourself only able to focus on which party stinks worse, then you have adopted the pre-kindergarten “binary choice” rhetoric of the campaign, in which both Trump and Clinton supporters insisted that we must ignore the obvious character defects, financial shenanigans, lies, and foolishness of A or B on the theory that B or A is so much worse that we simply cannot acknowledge any shortcomings on the other side."



This, as much as anything, captured my attention because that's exactly how this entire campaign/election played out.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 12:20:59 PM
Don't see how that's so different from what I said.

I agree 100% with that, by the way.

Also, you may want to know that Stossel is a staunch (gasp) Libertarian!!!

He delivered the message without resorting to insults or pants pooping.  He pointed out both sides while identifying a clear problem with the press. He didn't engage in a frothing rant directed at our fantastic president.

I don't have a problem with libertarian other than they can't put forth an electable candidate. Johnson was wack-a-doodle.  It's like the XFL. Can't put a quality product on the field but has some good ideas that can be absorbed by the Republican Party. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 12:45:32 PM
"It is possible, if you are not mentally crippled, to hold in your mind two non-exclusive ideas: Donald J. Trump stinks, and the press stinks. Trump’s spat with the press is a bloodless Iran–Iraq war, and I myself am cheering for (metaphorical) casualties. If you find yourself only able to focus on which party stinks worse, then you have adopted the pre-kindergarten “binary choice” rhetoric of the campaign, in which both Trump and Clinton supporters insisted that we must ignore the obvious character defects, financial shenanigans, lies, and foolishness of A or B on the theory that B or A is so much worse that we simply cannot acknowledge any shortcomings on the other side."



This, as much as anything, captured my attention because that's exactly how this entire campaign/election played out.

The only problem I have with that piece is it seems to operate from the presumption that if you agree with most of what Trump has done then you are incapable of independent thought.

Simply untrue. 

I opposed Hillary because I thought she was corrupt, because her social policies conflicted with my values, because I disagreed vehemently with her foreign policy. 

The other option was Trump.  I agree with securing the borders. I'd support a Muslim ban. I support his pro-business, America first stance.  Im in full concert with the demolition of Obamacare. I'm honestly a little surprised that he's gone full bore in fulfilling his campaign promises. It's unusual and unprecedented.

I'm also disgusted and dismayed at the way the media and the crybaby left has treated him.  The "Sweden" thing is a clear example. 

That doesn't mean I lack the capacity to find fault, it just means that for me the good thus far outweighs the bad by a large margin.  I wish that story was being accurately told.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 22, 2017, 12:59:26 PM
He delivered the message without resorting to insults or pants pooping.  He pointed out both sides while identifying a clear problem with the press. He didn't engage in a frothing rant directed at our fantastic president.

I don't have a problem with libertarian other than they can't put forth an electable candidate. Johnson was wack-a-doodle.  It's like the XFL. Can't put a quality product on the field but has some good ideas that can be absorbed by the Republican Party.

Neither side wants good ideas, they want status quo.  Hopefully PDT can get rid of this mentality.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 22, 2017, 01:03:58 PM
The only problem I have with that piece is it seems to operate from the presumption that if you agree with most of what Trump has done then you are incapable of independent thought.

Simply untrue. 

I opposed Hillary because I thought she was corrupt, because her social policies conflicted with my values, because I disagreed vehemently with her foreign policy. 

The other option was Trump.  I agree with securing the borders. I'd support a Muslim ban. I support his pro-business, America first stance.  Im in full concert with the demolition of Obamacare. I'm honestly a little surprised that he's gone full bore in fulfilling his campaign promises. It's unusual and unprecedented.

I'm also disgusted and dismayed at the way the media and the crybaby left has treated him.  The "Sweden" thing is a clear example. 

That doesn't mean I lack the capacity to find fault, it just means that for me the good thus far outweighs the bad by a large margin.  I wish that story was being accurately told.

This, or these, are the exact reasons I voted for him. I would change "Muslim ban" to 1,000% better vetting system.  With all of his obvious shortcomings as a "politician" and his lack of any filter, these were the issues I cared the most about.  He was the one and only candidate I had ever heard speak so directly and forcefully on them and vow to meet them head on.  I'm like many at this point, wherein I can live with all the blather and face palm moments as along as he's continuing to attack these problems.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: CCTAU on February 22, 2017, 01:48:40 PM
This, or these, are the exact reasons I voted for him. I would change "Muslim ban" to 1,000% better vetting system.  With all of his obvious shortcomings as a "politician" and his lack of any filter, these were the issues I cared the most about.  He was the one and only candidate I had ever heard speak so directly and forcefully on them and vow to meet them head on.  I'm like many at this point, wherein I can live with all the blather and face palm moments as along as he's continuing to attack these problems.


I tell whackadoodles on the left this all of the time. While you are whining, he's keeping promises.


I said in the beginning that if he only accomplishes four of his promises, he would have done more than any conservative in the last 20 years!
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 01:59:32 PM
This, or these, are the exact reasons I voted for him. I would change "Muslim ban" to 1,000% better vetting system.  With all of his obvious shortcomings as a "politician" and his lack of any filter, these were the issues I cared the most about.  He was the one and only candidate I had ever heard speak so directly and forcefully on them and vow to meet them head on.  I'm like many at this point, wherein I can live with all the blather and face palm moments as along as he's continuing to attack these problems.

I'm gonna go ahead and stick with Muslim ban.  It's been proven over the centuries and is written into their most sacred law that peaceful coexistence is not an agreeable outcome. 

The ultimate goal of your Islamic neighbor is not to live in peaceful concert with you while respecting each other's individual values but to one day see you bow to his beliefs. 

I'm willing to reconsider, but I'd need one historical precedent where Islamic immigration has been a social or economic benefit to the country that accepted their influx. 

Sweden anyone? 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 22, 2017, 02:18:53 PM
The only problem I have with that piece is it seems to operate from the presumption that if you agree with most of what Trump has done then you are incapable of independent thought.

Simply untrue. 

I opposed Hillary because I thought she was corrupt, because her social policies conflicted with my values, because I disagreed vehemently with her foreign policy. 

The other option was Trump.  I agree with securing the borders. I'd support a Muslim ban. I support his pro-business, America first stance.  Im in full concert with the demolition of Obamacare. I'm honestly a little surprised that he's gone full bore in fulfilling his campaign promises. It's unusual and unprecedented.

I'm also disgusted and dismayed at the way the media and the crybaby left has treated him.  The "Sweden" thing is a clear example. 

That doesn't mean I lack the capacity to find fault, it just means that for me the good thus far outweighs the bad by a large margin.  I wish that story was being accurately told.
In other words we must ignore the obvious character defects, financial shenanigans, lies, and foolishness of A or B on the theory that B or A is so much worse that we simply cannot acknowledge any shortcomings on the other side.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: War Eagle!!! on February 22, 2017, 02:36:00 PM
In other words we must ignore the obvious character defects, financial shenanigans, lies, and foolishness of A or B on the theory that B or A is so much worse that we simply cannot acknowledge any shortcomings on the other side.

Or, you vote for the candidate who you MOST agree with...
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 02:41:55 PM
In other words we must ignore the obvious character defects, financial shenanigans, lies, and foolishness of A or B on the theory that B or A is so much worse that we simply cannot acknowledge any shortcomings on the other side.

Did you read a single motherfucking word I said before you started banging your head on the keyboard? 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
Or, you vote for the candidate who you MOST agree with...

And then? 

Oh the horror and shame!  You are encouraged and inspired when he begins to deliver on the campaign promises with which you mostly agreed. 

That just makes you stupid and incapable of rational thought!  Xenaphile!! 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 22, 2017, 02:47:45 PM
And then? 

Oh the horror and shame!  You are encouraged and inspired when he begins to deliver on the campaign promises with which you mostly agreed. 

That just makes you stupid and incapable of rational thought!  Xenaphile!!

I don't see how being somewhat obsessed with the Princess Warrior makes me stupid.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUJarhead on February 22, 2017, 02:48:28 PM
Or, you vote for the candidate who you MOST agree with...

Correct.  And if you and I disagree, it doesn't make you an asshole (although you are).
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Godfather on February 22, 2017, 02:56:07 PM
Correct.  And if you and I disagree, it doesn't make you an asshole (although you are).
It just makes you wrong.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUJarhead on February 22, 2017, 03:01:48 PM
It just makes you wrong.

But he's still an asshole, right?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Godfather on February 22, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
But he's still an asshole, right?
Everyone on the X is an asshole, so yes.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUJarhead on February 22, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
Everyone on the X is an asshole, so yes.

Even Buzz?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 22, 2017, 03:21:50 PM
Even Buzz?

Especially Buzz.


Damn Cubs fan.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 22, 2017, 04:25:23 PM
Everyone on the X is an asshole, so yes.

We're all different people.  We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Q1fDf0GeY

We're mutts.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 22, 2017, 06:54:10 PM
Where is Prowler when you need him?

Trump wants to deport American Indians to India

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9g7HD64Mxtw/WJnwXVZ9qUI/AAAAAAAAnYQ/xs_3OVxMUnwyb3ctaek1O27POlUGrkVgACLcB/s500/TrumpIndianer.jpg)

http://www.the-postillon.com/2017/02/trump-to-deport-indians.html?m=1

Satire but funny nonetheless.   :haha:
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 23, 2017, 01:39:14 AM
Reality left this country when Bernie Sanders was an actual candidate for presidency.
Reality left when a "reality show" host began to be the leading Republican candidate.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 23, 2017, 12:16:35 PM
Reality left when a "reality show" host began to be the leading Republican candidate.

And since the democratic party decided it was best to run a, lying, cheating, whorehash, fucking evil mommy part against him, that made him the better of two candidates.   
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 23, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
And since the democratic party decided it was best to run a, lying, cheating, whorehash, fucking evil mommy part against him, that made him the better of two candidates.

Are we allowed to like this?  I don't remember all the "do better" rules. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 24, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
 :facepalm:

CNN shitting its pants because it wasn't part of the press pool for a briefing today. 

Nothing to see here but let's go nuclear.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Saniflush on February 24, 2017, 02:21:05 PM
:facepalm:

CNN shitting its pants because it wasn't part of the press pool for a briefing today. 

Nothing to see here but let's go nuclear.

I actually think this is really funny and may watch some of their network tonight for the entertainment.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 24, 2017, 02:35:09 PM
Even Buzz?
You should know this.  CHiP outside shoulda told ya.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 24, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Shep Smith is a self righteous crybaby bitch. 

If he wasn't gay I'd think he was somebody on this board. .........wait....
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 24, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
I actually think this is really funny and may watch some of their network tonight for the entertainment.

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/cferrell0935/goodreads/crying/anotherbabycrying.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/cferrell0935/media/goodreads/crying/anotherbabycrying.gif.html)
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 24, 2017, 05:33:11 PM
I actually think this is really funny and may watch some of their network tonight for the entertainment.

Do so knowing that on numerous occasions, Fox was banned from Obama conferences.  That every president as far back as Lincoln has excluded certain people/organizations from various functions and for various reasons. 

When Trump does it, however, CNN cries like a bitch baby that lost its pacifier. 

He's not going to stop.  They might as well figure it out now.  He's doing what WE want him to do. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 24, 2017, 06:24:50 PM
Do so knowing that on numerous occasions, Fox was banned from Obama conferences.  That every president as far back as Lincoln has excluded certain people/organizations from various functions and for various reasons. 

When Trump does it, however, CNN cries like a bitch baby that lost its pacifier. 

He's not going to stop.  They might as well figure it out now.  He's doing what WE want him to do.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif)

Obama (the Treasury actually) TRIED to ban Fox and was unsuccessful mainly BECAUSE media outlets, including CNN, rallied behind Fox.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 24, 2017, 07:31:35 PM
Do so knowing that on numerous occasions, Fox was banned from Obama conferences.  That every president as far back as Lincoln has excluded certain people/organizations from various functions and for various reasons. 

When Trump does it, however, CNN cries like a bitch baby that lost its pacifier. 

He's not going to stop.  They might as well figure it out now.  He's doing what WE want him to do.
Oh look...more Alternative Facts from the Alternative Right. Shocking.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 24, 2017, 08:53:22 PM
"I think we have a respect for the press when it comes to the government. That is something you can't ban an entity from. Conservative, liberal or otherwise, that’s what makes a democracy a democracy versus a dictatorship.” - Communications Director at the RNC, Sean Spicer (12/16/16)

Hmmm, I wonder if Spicer still thinks the same only 2 months later...
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 24, 2017, 10:31:45 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif)

Obama (the Treasury actually) TRIED to ban Fox and was unsuccessful mainly BECAUSE media outlets, including CNN, rallied behind Fox.

Absolutely un-fucking-true.   
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 24, 2017, 10:49:10 PM
Put. Your. Shit. Back. In. Your. Pants.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/us/politics/23fox.html

From the GOLDAMNED New York Times, nonetheless.  Let's take a fucking look, k? 

Quote

Behind the War Between White House and Fox
By JIM RUTENBERGOCT. 22, 2009
WASHINGTON — Late last month, the senior White House adviser David Axelrod and Roger Ailes, chairman and chief executive of Fox News, met in an empty Palm steakhouse before it opened for the day, neutral ground secured for a secret tête-à-tête.

Mr. Ailes, who had reached out to Mr. Axelrod to address rising tensions between the network and the White House, told him that Fox’s reporters were fair, if tough, and should be considered separate from the Fox commentators who were skewering President Obama nightly, according to people briefed on the meeting. Mr. Axelrod said it was the view of the White House that Fox News had blurred the line between news and anti-Obama advocacy.

What both men took to be the start of a frank but productive dialogue proved, in retrospect, more akin to the round of pre-Pearl Harbor peace talks between the United States and Japan.

By the following weekend, officials at the White House had decided that if anything, it was time to take the relationship to an even more confrontational level. The spur: Executives at other news organizations, including The New York Times, had publicly said that their newsrooms had not been fast enough in following stories that Fox News, to the administration’s chagrin, had been heavily covering through the summer and early fall — namely, past statements and affiliations of the White House adviser Van Jones that ultimately led to his resignation and questions surrounding the community activist group Acorn.

At the same time, Fox News had continued a stream of reports rankling White House officials and liberal groups that monitor its programming for bias.

Those reports included a critical segment on the schools safety official Kevin Jennings, with the on-screen headline “School Czar’s Past May Be Too Radical”; urgent news coverage of a video showing schoolchildren “singing the praises, quite literally, of the president,” which the Fox News contributor Tucker Carlson later called “pure Khmer Rouge stuff”; and the daily anti-Obama salvos from Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.

There followed, beginning in earnest more than two weeks ago, an intensified volley of White House comments describing Fox as “not a news network.”

Not a news network?  Fake News? Where's the fucking outrage?   

“It was an amalgam of stories covered, and our assessment of how others were dealing with those stories, that caused us to comment,” Mr. Axelrod said in describing the administration’s thinking.

The heated back-and-forth between the White House and Fox News has brought equal delight to Fox’s conservative commentators, who revel in the fight, and liberal Democrats, who have long characterized the network as a purveyor of right-wing propaganda rather than fact-based journalism.

Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of mostly liberal columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New York Times, Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about the network, according to people briefed on the conversation.

Then, in an interview with NBC News on Wednesday, the president went public. “What our advisers have simply said is that we are going to take media as it comes,” he said. “And if media is operating, basically, as a talk radio format, then that’s one thing. And if it’s operating as a news outlet, then that’s another.”

In a sign of discomfort with the White House stance, Fox’s television news competitors refused to go along with a Treasury Department effort on Thursday to exclude Fox from a round of interviews with the executive-pay czar Kenneth R. Feinberg that was to be conducted with a “pool” camera crew shared by all the networks. That followed a pointed question at a White House briefing this week by Jake Tapper, an ABC News correspondent, about the administration’s treatment of “one of our sister organizations.”

White House officials continue to interact with Fox News correspondents whom they have complimented as professional, including Major Garrett and Wendell Goler.

But Michael Clemente, senior vice president for news and editorial programming at Fox, said the White House was conflating the network’s commentary with its news coverage. That, Mr. Clemente said, “would be like Fox News blaming the White House senior staff for the Washington Redskins’ losing record.”

“I think we’re doing the job we’re supposed to be doing,” he said, “and we do it as well as anyone.”

Mr. Clemente suggested that the fight was part of a larger White House strategy to marginalize critics. He cited a report in Politico about a strategy session in August at which officials discussed plans to move more aggressively against opponents.

White House officials acknowledged that Fox News did come up at that meeting, although not, they said, as a central topic. A number of issues had been added to the White House’s list of grievances by then, including the network’s heavy coverage of some of the more intensely anti-administration activity at town-hall-style meetings on health care and Mr. Beck’s remark that Mr. Obama “has a deep-seated hatred for white people.”

The first real shot from the White House, however, came when aides excluded “Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace” — which they had previously treated as distinct from the network — from a round of presidential interviews with Sunday morning news programs in mid-September.

“We simply decided to stop abiding by the fiction, which is aided and abetted by the mainstream press, that Fox is a traditional news organization,” said Dan Pfeiffer, the deputy White House communications director under Obama.

Later that week, White House officials said, they noticed a column by Clark Hoyt, the public editor of The Times, in which Jill Abramson, one of the paper’s two managing editors, described her newsroom’s “insufficient tuned-in-ness to the issues that are dominating Fox News and talk radio.” The Washington Post’s executive editor, Marcus Brauchli, had already expressed similar concerns about his newsroom.

White House officials said comments like those had focused them on a need to make their case that Fox had an ideological bent undercutting its legitimacy as a news organization.

Fox News Channel certainly seems to be enjoying a row it considers ratings candy, having devoted hours of news coverage and commentary to the fight.

But White House officials said they were happy to have at least started a public debate about Fox.

“This is a discussion that probably had to be had about their approach to things,” Mr. Axelrod said. “Our concern is other media not follow their lead.”

Correction: October 29, 2009
An article on Oct. 23 about tensions between the Obama administration and the Fox News Channel misstated the day on which Fox News’s competitors refused an attempt by the administration to exclude Fox from a round of official interviews that was to be recorded by a pool camera crew shared by all the major news networks. It was last Thursday, Oct. 22 — not Tuesday, Oct. 20.

RELATED COVERAGE
THE MEDIA EQUATION
The Battle Between the White House and Fox News OCT. 17, 2009

A Volley Between Fox News and Obama Administration OCT. 11, 2009


Now SHUT.THE.FUCK.UP

#Iwinasalways
#fuckallyallhoes
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: chinook on February 24, 2017, 10:53:13 PM
"I think we have a respect for the press when it comes to the government. That is something you can't ban an entity from. Conservative, liberal or otherwise, that’s what makes a democracy a democracy versus a dictatorship.” - Communications Director at the RNC, Sean Spicer (12/16/16)

Hmmm, I wonder if Spicer still thinks the same only 2 months later...

Probably not. And rightly so.  The liberal media has completely gone off the rails in respecting the President and the administration. 

Prowler, do you have kids?

It is to the level of crap some of the kids needed a timeout.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on February 26, 2017, 02:03:02 AM
Here's what Trump considers real news...

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/fake-sweden-expert-on-fox-news-has-criminal-convictions-in-us-no-connection-to-swedish-security/
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 27, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
Put. Your. Shit. Back. In. Your. Pants.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/us/politics/23fox.html

From the GOLDAMNED New York Times, nonetheless.  Let's take a fucking look, k? 


Now SHUT.THE.FUCK.UP

#Iwinasalways
#fuckallyallhoes
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif)

Fox News's Bret Baier disagrees and says basically exactly what I said. Emphasis mine.

https://twitter.com/BretBaier/status/835206562549493760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Quote
@BretBaier
Some at CNN & NYT stood w/FOX News when the Obama admin attacked us & tried 2 exclude us-a WH gaggle should be open to all credentialed orgs

You, sir, may now kindly shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 27, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif)

Fox News's Bret Baier disagrees and says basically exactly what I said. Emphasis mine.

https://twitter.com/BretBaier/status/835206562549493760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
You, sir, may now kindly shut the fuck up.

Seriously? 

You need medication.

The article I printed from your precious New York Times clearly displays an Obama administration that was more antagonistic toward Fox News than President Trump's administration has been toward the entire herd of Obama ball lickers that try to pass for news organizations.  It clearly shows that his administration did the same things (to a greater extent) than Trump has.  It clearly shows that he tried to delegitimize Fox and cali that it wasn't a news organization (how is that different from "fake news")

I don't give a fuck if Trump kicks all those networks out of the District of Columbia. 

What I showed you in that one article is that this is nothing different than what's happened before and is, in fact, less egregious. 

Clean up on aisle 2. Chizad's pants are caked with poo. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 27, 2017, 10:01:24 AM
The article I printed from your precious New York Times clearly displays an Obama administration that was more antagonistic toward Fox News than President Trump's administration has been toward the entire herd of Obama ball lickers that try to pass for news organizations.
No it doesn't.
It clearly shows that his administration did the same things (to a greater extent) than Trump has.
No it doesn't.
It clearly shows that he tried to delegitimize Fox and cali that it wasn't a news organization (how is that different from "fake news")
Tried. That's what I said. Tried and failed because, as I said originally that you took issue with, counter to your earlier incorrect statement, the mainstream media as a whole rallied behind Fox. That is a fact. You are...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif)

Take it up with Bret Baier.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 27, 2017, 10:05:33 AM
And this time, please just take the L and stop digging deeper so as to turn this into 20 pages of you obscuring what you were clearly wrong about to begin with, then turning it into me being "smug" because I differentiate truth from made up bullshit, into me "NOT LETTING IT GO, OMG OBSESSED!!!1" when I try to stay on topic.

Let's just skip that this time, how bout it?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 27, 2017, 10:46:28 AM
No it doesn't.

Read the big letters.
No it doesn't.
Read the bold letters


Tried. That's what I said. Tried and failed because, as I said originally that you took issue with, counter to your earlier incorrect statement, the mainstream media as a whole rallied behind Fox. That is a fact. You are...

That's what you're missing.  It's a vastly different animal when ONE news network that's trying to do its job and is the ONLY network doing anything but polishing Obama's knockers is singled out.   In Trump's case it's MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, Buzzfeed, CNBC, etc. etc. etc. 

And even at that, Fox wasn't personally attacking Obama, it wasn't aiding and abetting people who were trying to destroy him, it didn't have anchors crying on the air because he won.  And yet he STILL met with people like Maddow and Olbermann to garner their help in spreading his propaganda and trying to destroy the ONLY voice even half ass trying to critically examine his decisions. 

It's an extremely different landscape.  It's easy for all of those -- all who were complicit in expanding his agenda -- to go "hey, don't pick on poor little ol' Fox..."   

Just not the same. 
Take it up with Bret Baier.

There's nothing to take up. 

You've become Prowler.  Served heaping helpings of your own ass on a silver platter and yet you do victory jigs.   

It is to laugh. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 27, 2017, 10:54:11 AM
And this time, please just take the L and stop digging deeper so as to turn this into 20 pages of you obscuring what you were clearly wrong about to begin with, then turning it into me being "smug" because I differentiate truth from made up bullshit, into me "NOT LETTING IT GO, OMG OBSESSED!!!1" when I try to stay on topic.

Let's just skip that this time, how bout it?

If you want to pretend its a draw and have somebody give you a participation trophy, I guess I can accept that Olaf.   If it makes you feel better....
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 27, 2017, 11:10:05 AM
Take it up with Bret Baier.

There's nothing to take up. 

You've become Prowler.  Served heaping helpings of your own ass on a silver platter and yet you do victory jigs.   

It is to laugh.
This is another classic case of you saying an incorrect thing, then me correcting you, then you full-on shitting your pants about how you are right and I am wrong, then you obscuring what the fuck we were talking about to begin with.

So let's recap, shall we?

You said:
Do so knowing that on numerous occasions, Fox was banned from Obama conferences.  That every president as far back as Lincoln has excluded certain people/organizations from various functions and for various reasons. 

When Trump does it, however, CNN cries like a bitch baby that lost its pacifier. 

He's not going to stop.  They might as well figure it out now.  He's doing what WE want him to do.
You're saying Obama BANNED Fox in an analogous way to what Trump is currently trying to do to basically everyone else AND you're saying that CNN is being hypocritical for "suddenly" caring.

I replied to that with:

Obama (the Treasury actually) TRIED to ban Fox and was unsuccessful mainly BECAUSE media outlets, including CNN, rallied behind Fox.

You replied to that with 20 posts that shifted to personal insults about me "needing medication", "caking my pants with poo", and telling me in all caps to shut the fuck up among other gems.

Now, stay in the corner you painted yourself in and tell me how:
Obama (the Treasury actually) TRIED to ban Fox and was unsuccessful mainly BECAUSE media outlets, including CNN, rallied behind Fox.
is COMPLETELY different than:
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@BretBaier
Some at CNN & NYT stood w/FOX News when the Obama admin attacked us & tried 2 exclude us-a WH gaggle should be open to all credentialed orgs
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 27, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
@BretBaier
Some at CNN & NYT stood w/FOX News when the Obama admin attacked us & tried 2 exclude us-a WH gaggle should be open to all credentialed orgs


This is CNN's problem.


Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 27, 2017, 12:38:26 PM
Christ.

He apparently wants his participation trophy.   WT?  Can you do another poll? 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: AUChizad on February 27, 2017, 01:01:14 PM
Christ.

He apparently wants his participation trophy.   WT?  Can you do another poll?
You won't say it out loud, but I will accept this as an admission of your argument being soundly defeated.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on February 27, 2017, 01:34:45 PM
You won't say it out loud, but I will accept this as an admission of your argument being soundly defeated.

You should accept it as mercy for me not continuing to subject this board to watching you contort and twist like a nympho in a room full of dick porcupines.

You scream and shit your bloomers over pieces without ever grasping the whole puzzle.

If you fail to see how Obama's relentless assault against one single news outlet -- the only one that wasn't performing fawning acts of fealty on him -- is equal to or worse than Trump having to battle the entire liberal media establishment as well as Obama's sinister "action group" at every turn?  If you refuse to acknowledge that the actions and responses of both parties are similar? If you decline to perform the bare minimum of research to determine that pretty much all presidents have done similar things at times and this is hardly unprecedented except for the crybaby bitching from CNN (which was the primary and only fucking point I made?)

If all of those?  Get your participation trophy and sit it on the shelf next to the silver platters on which you've had your ass repeatedly served to you.

#mypresident
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: CCTAU on February 27, 2017, 11:12:05 PM


You scream and shit your bloomers over pieces without ever grasping the whole puzzle.



You just described the left to a tee!
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 01, 2017, 02:45:40 PM
Today, the Dow is up over 300 points, setting new records almost on a daily basis.  It began to climb the moment Trump was elected despite gloom and doom warnings of a massive sell off.  I have no idea and don't pretend to understand what makes the stock market tick.  My caveman approach is "MMM..stock market up, good!  Stock market down, bad!  MMM, crave meat".

I also realize the market will at some point, "correct" itself, but right now my vast portfolio of 100 shares of Scotch Brand Packing Tape is kicking ass.  But today at lunch, I was walking through a store and went by a TV tuned to CNN.  Wolf Spritzer was interviewing some guy, which I'm sure was one of the leading economists of the modern era, and all I heard was Wolf ask, "So you're saying we should credit Obama for the recent stock market success?"

Oh absolutely.  It was the Obama administration that gave investors the confidence they needed to move forward and stimulate the......."   :hulk: :& :fu:

Thank God for Obama.  Without him, we would never have discovered a vaccine for polio or had access to a forum in which we could openly hate Dallas.  These fucks quit trying to hide anything long ago. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 01, 2017, 03:14:03 PM
Today, the Dow is up over 300 points, setting new records almost on a daily basis.  It began to climb the moment Trump was elected despite gloom and doom warnings of a massive sell off.  I have no idea and don't pretend to understand what makes the stock market tick.  My caveman approach is "MMM..stock market up, good!  Stock market down, bad!  MMM, crave meat".

I also realize the market will at some point, "correct" itself, but right now my vast portfolio of 100 shares of Scotch Brand Packing Tape is kicking ass.  But today at lunch, I was walking through a store and went by a TV tuned to CNN.  Wolf Spritzer was interviewing some guy, which I'm sure was one of the leading economists of the modern era, and all I heard was Wolf ask, "So you're saying we should credit Obama for the recent stock market success?"

Oh absolutely.  It was the Obama administration that gave investors the confidence they needed to move forward and stimulate the......."   :hulk: :& :fu:

Thank God for Obama.  Without him, we would never have discovered a vaccine for polio or had access to a forum in which we could openly hate Dallas.  These fucks quit trying to hide anything long ago.


I can't even begin to fathom the hate if I posted like some on here. (left leaning  :haha:)
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 01, 2017, 05:12:16 PM
Today, the Dow is up over 300 points, setting new records almost on a daily basis.  It began to climb the moment Trump was elected despite gloom and doom warnings of a massive sell off.  I have no idea and don't pretend to understand what makes the stock market tick.  My caveman approach is "MMM..stock market up, good!  Stock market down, bad!  MMM, crave meat".

I also realize the market will at some point, "correct" itself, but right now my vast portfolio of 100 shares of Scotch Brand Packing Tape is kicking ass.  But today at lunch, I was walking through a store and went by a TV tuned to CNN.  Wolf Spritzer was interviewing some guy, which I'm sure was one of the leading economists of the modern era, and all I heard was Wolf ask, "So you're saying we should credit Obama for the recent stock market success?"

Oh absolutely.  It was the Obama administration that gave investors the confidence they needed to move forward and stimulate the......."   :hulk: :& :fu:

Thank God for Obama.  Without him, we would never have discovered a vaccine for polio or had access to a forum in which we could openly hate Dallas.  These fucks quit trying to hide anything long ago.

Bill kills it in this clip...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GNX_F6BTE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GNX_F6BTE8)
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on March 03, 2017, 11:49:47 AM
http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2017/03/cricitism_mounts_against_comic.html#incart_river_mobileshort_home

Comic Cowboy Mardi Gras floats were offensive!!  It's the climate of fear created by Trump that is to blame!  Hate crimes have increased dramatically since he ran!!

Peddling the same stale lies. 
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: The Prowler on July 22, 2017, 06:49:10 PM
"I think we have a respect for the press when it comes to the government. That is something you can't ban an entity from. Conservative, liberal or otherwise, that’s what makes a democracy a democracy versus a dictatorship.” - Communications Director at the RNC, Sean Spicer (12/16/16)

Hmmm, I wonder if Spicer still thinks the same only 2 months later...
Aaaand he's gone...but, not before stealing a mini fridge from the White House. Sad!

(https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/5KY_XfiBi0oI_Hd-bouOrZxhx8g=/950x534/filters:quality(90)/https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Fcard%2Fimage%2F544242%2F0a2f61f6-54ab-4c45-b1b8-be42590fe391.png)
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: CCTAU on July 22, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
He had to take it. It had Boone's farm in it for the underage hooker party!
Oh yeah. And the blow!
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: War Eagle!!! on August 31, 2017, 10:36:56 AM
I'm just gonna leave this here...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/us/griffin-rescue-cnntv/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/us/griffin-rescue-cnntv/index.html)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/903097981192327169 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/903097981192327169)
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 31, 2017, 11:18:10 AM
Who doesn't bring a mic and a change of clothes when they head out to rescue someone?
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: Kaos on August 31, 2017, 11:18:47 AM
I'm just gonna leave this here...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/us/griffin-rescue-cnntv/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/us/griffin-rescue-cnntv/index.html)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/903097981192327169 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/903097981192327169)

That's really stunning.  But not entirely surprising. 

Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 31, 2017, 12:46:39 PM
I blame the driver for not waiting on a fox correspondent.
Title: Re: More Media Dishonesty
Post by: GH2001 on August 31, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
That's really stunning.  But not entirely surprising.

Just more fake news from the Communist News Network.