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Title: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: wesfau2 on August 20, 2016, 01:36:27 PM
State Senate passed Bentley's bill, with slight amendment to the recipients of the lottery revenues.

Good for the state?  Bad?  Fuck off, it's football season?
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: jmar on August 20, 2016, 03:01:08 PM
State Senate passed Bentley's bill, with slight amendment to the recipients of the lottery revenues.

Good for the state?  Bad?  Fuck off, it's football season?
Like it even w/o knowing those slight details. The education system here is a mammoth entity, see Mike Hubbard but the timing couldn't have been better.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 20, 2016, 03:16:50 PM
Every Monday or Tuesday at lunch, I drive just a few miles south to the Florida State line and play my same lucky numbers.  (Those numbers have worked out just swell so far)  All this will do is save me a little gas.  Like anything else, just put the issue to a vote and let the peeps decide.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: jmar on August 20, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
Every Monday or Tuesday at lunch, I drive just a few miles south to the Florida State line and play my same lucky numbers.  (Those numbers have worked out just swell so far)  All this will do is save me a little gas.  Like anything else, just put the issue to a vote and let the peeps decide.
Exactly.
Somebody's getting paid regardless. All we desire is the convenience to get rich muthafucka.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 20, 2016, 10:52:43 PM
I'd much rather see the money going toward education.  Not a big fan of all that pork.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: GH2001 on August 20, 2016, 11:23:27 PM
Actually attended a luncheon Thursday with Bentley down in Phenix City. He mentioned that the vote was later that day and that he had a version of the bill that he hoped to pass. And I'm glad it did but like buzz said, I'd like to see at least some of it go to education. From what he said Thursday it's mainly going to cover Medicaid since the state is in the red with it at the moment.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: bottomfeeder on August 21, 2016, 08:57:25 AM
Bentley is an IDIOT. He passed up the money from the feds that would have shored up Medicaid ahead of the obamacare disaster. He plans on getting his bony little hands on some of that money since he lost all of his in the divorce. Fuck him and his mistress. Oh wait, just his mistress. I'll still play the Florida State lotto just despite him.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: jmar on August 21, 2016, 09:10:12 AM
Can't we still get the lottery and then prosecute the alleged embezzling bastard?😂
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: wesfau2 on August 21, 2016, 10:20:16 AM
I'd much rather see the money going toward education.  Not a big fan of all that pork.

The Senate approved 10% to education, 20% to Medicaid and the rest to the General Fund, I believe. 
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: djsimp on August 21, 2016, 11:57:22 AM
The Senate approved 10% to education, 20% to Medicaid and the rest to the General Fund, I believe.

Should be more for education IMO. I mean, 10%, really, that is all? Damn. Maybe I'm just ignorant to this but what percentage does Florida and Georgia set aside for education?
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: jmar on August 21, 2016, 12:58:44 PM
Should be more for education IMO. I mean, 10%, really, that is all? Damn. Maybe I'm just ignorant to this but what percentage does Florida and Georgia set aside for education?
I know. We could be known as the state with the only non-educational lottery. One would think that a much larger portion would be for education because it looks as if they are treating it like a miscellaneous expense.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Kaos on August 21, 2016, 02:36:18 PM
I'd much rather see the money going toward education.  Not a big fan of all that pork.

Hates pork.

Closet Muslim.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 21, 2016, 03:40:43 PM
The Senate approved 10% to education, 20% to Medicaid and the rest to the General Fund, I believe.

70%?  That's a jumbo pork sammich, chopped.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: The Prowler on August 21, 2016, 06:22:42 PM
"General Fund"...is that what they call pocketing the money?
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: GH2001 on August 21, 2016, 09:58:59 PM
"General Fund"...is that what they call pocketing the money?

The general fund is in the red at the moment. Why don't you research how budgets work before throwing out stupid conspiracy statements.

Medicaid is also in the red. What would you do? Go "more" broke? Credit rating downgraded perhaps?
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: GH2001 on August 21, 2016, 10:00:03 PM
Should be more for education IMO. I mean, 10%, really, that is all? Damn. Maybe I'm just ignorant to this but what percentage does Florida and Georgia set aside for education?

Georgia's IS an education lottery. As in, it's purpose.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Saniflush on August 22, 2016, 07:58:35 AM
Georgia's IS an education lottery. As in, it's purpose.

You mis-understood....What they meant was it is like the lottery to get an education in Georgia.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on August 22, 2016, 09:14:35 AM
10% for education.

Yikes.

70% to the general fund seems risky too. This seems destined to fail.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: jmar on August 22, 2016, 11:19:24 AM
Just perusing the net I found that the initial percentage breakdown of our proposed lottery is consistent with many other states.
Don't know the source below but it's worth the read.
  http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/what-percentage-of-state-lottery-money-goes-to-the-state/
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 22, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
10% for education.

Yikes.

70% to the general fund seems risky too. This seems destined to fail.

But gohvehnoh boobies needs moah money to keep his skybox at Brunt Denneys and the side chick happy too.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Token on August 22, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
I only care about the money I'm going to win at the scratch offs.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 22, 2016, 01:53:16 PM
We have had the lotto out here for a while here in Tejas. When it started it was to shore up the education budget, changed it later to general fund.

But I can tell you this, A lotto is a tax on poor people to get them pay their fair share. The unwash masses that clog up stores on the night before the numbers are drawn are a fun sight to watch.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Saniflush on August 22, 2016, 03:50:12 PM
We have had the lotto out here for a while here in Tejas. When it started it was to shore up the education budget, changed it later to general fund.

But I can tell you this, A lotto is a tax on poor people to get them pay their fair share. The unwash masses that clog up stores on the night before the numbers are drawn are a fun sight to watch.

I always wondered how you spent those nights.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 22, 2016, 05:15:31 PM
I always wondered how you spent those nights.


It easier to shoplift beer when the stores are full.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: The Prowler on August 22, 2016, 06:40:28 PM
The general fund is in the red at the moment. Why don't you research how budgets work before throwing out stupid conspiracy statements.

Medicaid is also in the red. What would you do? Go "more" broke? Credit rating downgraded perhaps?
Yeah, because our State government would never pocket money...smh
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: GH2001 on August 22, 2016, 06:42:07 PM
10% for education.

Yikes.

70% to the general fund seems risky too. This seems destined to fail.

Word on the skreets is that it was the only version of the bill that would pass.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: GH2001 on August 22, 2016, 06:42:51 PM
Yeah, because our State government would never pocket money...smh

You're beyond help. Audits by kpmg would never catch those guys that do that. Ever.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: The Prowler on August 22, 2016, 06:47:31 PM
You're beyond help. Audits by kpmg would never catch those guys that do that. Ever.
You're beyond ignorance.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: GH2001 on August 22, 2016, 06:52:58 PM
You're beyond ignorance.

And you still don't understand budgets. There. Is. A. Shortfall.

That's the main purpose of this lotto proposal. Bentley did sell it though as a Medicaid helper. My guess to drum up support for it. But either way you slice it were in the hole fiscally. And it's either take away the goodies (roads, entitlements, etc) or raise taxes. One or the other. A lotto is just a voluntary tax.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: jmar on August 23, 2016, 03:41:02 AM
We have had the lotto out here for a while here in Tejas. When it started it was to shore up the education budget, changed it later to general fund.

But I can tell you this, A lotto is a tax on poor people to get them pay their fair share. The unwash masses that clog up stores on the night before the numbers are drawn are a fun sight to watch.
Yes and whatever a state calls it doesn't necessarily mean it will run smoothly or require tweaking see New Mexico as well as Georgia.

InN.M. education system was basically in shambles. They could carry college funding but secondary levels suffered and they struggled with construction of new schools.
Georgia upped its gpa requirements and made it more difficult for student entry to trade schools which lowered enrollment and worked to temper the financial strains in the short-term.

So from just a peek it would seem that a greater portion to the general fund (as in NY for example) would be in order considering how some areas of the budget are perpetually broke.

Never thought it would happen here due to so much lobbying against it and I'm the first to admit ignorance on the subject.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: wesfau2 on August 23, 2016, 07:58:55 AM
Bentley did sell it though as a Medicaid helper.

Bentley's original proposal had 100% of revenue going to the general fund.  Two different reps held everything up until education and medicaid, respectively, were allocated some revenue.
Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 23, 2016, 06:52:32 PM
"Think of the people" - Gubenah Bentley

Title: Re: Lottery for Alabama?
Post by: CCTAU on August 23, 2016, 08:37:13 PM
Victoryland opening back up next month!

More tax revenue!


Maybe Uncle Miltie will buy us another QB!