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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Godfather on September 29, 2015, 10:38:31 AM
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http://coacheshotseat.com/
#5 Gus Malzahn, Auburn – At halftime of the Mississippi State – Auburn game a Coaches Hot Seat member on the way to the kitchen to get another Fat Tire beer said what many of us were thinking…
“What in the Hell has happened to Auburn? This looks nothing like the Auburn team that went to the National Title game two seasons ago and not even like the Auburn team that almost beat Alabama and Wisconsin at the end of last season!â€
Geez…we don’t know what the Hell has happened to Auburn but for Damn sure something beyond not having a sterling QB and a shaky defense is the problem or set of problems here but then this Auburn football team looks so…
Off The Rails
So Different Than Malzahn’s Teams in the Past
….that we can only conclude that “something†has fundamentally changed at Auburn and we don’t have a Freaking Clue what that “something†is and believe us…we have tried to find out by talking to some folks we know around Auburn…who report nothing has changed…or they are flat-out lying to us which may be a possibility.
Hell, in 2012 when Gene Chizik was posting a record of 3 – 9 and 0 – 8 in SEC play only two seasons removed from going undefeated and winning the Bogus BCS National Championship Game the same folks in Auburn were telling us there were no problems on The Plains and we later learned there were lots of internal issues going on with Chizik’s Auburn football program…in our humble opinion…that led to Chizik’s ass getting run out of town…and those same folks may be lying to us again and this time we are calling them out on it in this blog and let’s see if they change their tune in the coming days because in our opinion…
Something is NOT right at Auburn
….because watching Auburn play this season it’s obvious to anyone with a working brain that…
Something is NOT right at Auburn
We have a guess on what is NOT right at Auburn right now but an attorney friend says we cannot write what we believe in this blog without proof so we will just leave our opinion out there that….
Something is NOT right at Auburn
Up next for Auburn a home game against San Jose State who also has a coach on the Hot Seat in Ron Caragher and whose football team just scored 49 points on Fresno State.
Hell, if San Jose State scores 28 points on Auburn it will beat the Tigers!
Oh, after San Jose State the Tigers still have to play….
At Kentucky
At Arkansas
Ole Miss
At Texas A&M
Georgia
Idaho
Alabama
Geez…there is a REAL chance that the two season records that Gene Chizik posted at Auburn after winning the national title…
8 – 5
3 – 9 – No SEC Wins
…will be the two identical records that Gus Malzahn posts at Auburn after taking his team to the national title game:
8 – 5
2 – 2 – 0 – 2 in SEC play
Will Gus Malzahn be fired if he goes 3 – 9 and 0 – 8 in SEC play in 2015?
YES Gus Malzahn will be fired…but give some thought to the above two similarities and why history may be repeating itself in Auburn….YES…give that some Damn thought.
Bolding is from the story, not my own.
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The only way I could see Gus being fired is if we finish 3-9. Even if we go 0-8 in SEC play, I don't see Jacobs firing him, especially now with all the questions being raised about him hiring Golloway. I honestly think we'll see a new AD before we see a new football coach.
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Maybe feeling the same way I did in 2012. :facepalm:
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The only way I could see Gus being fired is if we finish 3-9. Even if we go 0-8 in SEC play, I don't see Jacobs firing him, especially now with all the questions being raised about him hiring Golloway. I honestly think we'll see a new AD before we see a new football coach.
I just thought it was interesting from an outsiders view, also these guys are pretty accurate.
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I just don't get why people are already saying that Gus will get fired or that he should. Sometimes, like with Chiz, the writing on the wall is pretty plain.
Now, it's not, at least with me. I don't see anything that leads me to believe that Gus deserves firing. Maybe I'm making excuses because I do genuinely like the guy but I really don't think so. I liked Bowden and Chiz but I was ready for them to go.
Gus has made mistakes for certain. Hiring and keeping EJ too long, prob the biggest. But this season? OK, I'll give you that he stuck with JJ too long before giving the white boy a shot. But that's all I'm giving. We can complain all about the play calling, red zone and stuff like that. But, there are probably legit reasons for all. I still think he's probably more football smart than all of you, so I'm siding with Gus on that.
He's made some QB mistakes and maybe development is one of them. I don't think it's talent eval before recruiting because if so, most everyone else in the country wanted Keliele and JJ.
I don't even think it's a warm seat. Now, go 0fer in the SEC? We are definitely talking about a new day.
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This leads us to Snaggs thread...time for Gus Malzahn to nut up. *snicker*
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Seat is prolly gonna get a lot warmer after this weekend. :facepalm:
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Seat is prolly gonna get a lot warmer after this weekend. :facepalm:
No way does SJSU beat us.
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No way does SJSU beat us.
I hope not. If they do, I will flip-flop on my pro-Gus stance quicker than John Kerry.
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No way does SJSU beat us.
Hope not, but people were saying "No way does Jacksonville state beat us"
I am sorry, I just don't see this team putting it together, on talent alone yes, we should beat them. But don't be surprised if it is another 28-24 game.
Something is wrong on the plains. I just don't know what it is.
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Something is wrong on the plains. I just don't know what it is.
Avatar bet?
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Avatar bet?
On what, that something is wrong?
I said I see us winning but like 28-24.
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On what, that something is wrong?
I said I see us winning but like 28-24.
So you take SJSU and 4.
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Maybe feeling the same way I did in 2012. :facepalm:
See, I'm the opposite. I said this before but that year at the TA&M game, was the only time in 40+ years of going to Auburn football games, that I got up and walked out in disgust. Mad that I actually spent time and money and effort to watch it. Why? Well go back to 2011 when LSU got up on us early and the fullback basically punked our guys for laying down. They did it in several games that year, including Georgia. Once they started slowly in 2012, they quit. With the exception of Tre and maybe J. Wallace trying his ass off at QB, they quit.
It wasn't that Johnny Foosballz was scoring at will. It was the blatantly obvious fact that we weren't even trying. I will bet that between A&M, Georgia and Bama that year, we didn't force 3 total punts. They quit even trying. That's the one thing I just can't stomach. That's really when "Something is NOT right at Auburn".
Other than Rudy half-assing it on a tackle, I don't see that here. Don't know what the problem is but I refuse to get caught up in the spirit that piece was written in. I started the Nut Up thread because I think it really speaks more to the climate or environment of the state of college foosballz. Several alluded to it. It's instant gratification. Win now or off with your head. Pressure, pressure, pressure from day one from fans, media and boosters alike. It's the nature of the beast and what college football has evolved into. Multi-skwazzillion $$$ industry, one notch below the NFL. Win now or be gone.
I hope they figure it out and get things on track. This will come off as AU GheyFamilyNation talk, but as long as they're busting their asses to get it figured out, I'm good with it. I refuse to believe the "Something's NOT right at Auburn" in the sense that there's some sinister, underlying problem. Dysfunction. Our coaches forgot how to coach. I'm going Saturday.
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So you take SJSU and 4.
I may bitch and moan about my tigers but I will never bet against them to do poorly.
NO thanks
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I may bitch and moan about my tigers but I will never bet against them to do poorly.
NO thanks
Pussy.....meow.
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I don't see Gus getting fired this year. Rhett, on the other, could be the fall guy. Would Gus even do that?
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See, I'm the opposite. I said this before but that year at the TA&M game, was the only time in 40+ years of going to Auburn football games, that I got up and walked out in disgust. Mad that I actually spent time and money and effort to watch it. Why? Well go back to 2011 when LSU got up on us early and the fullback basically punked our guys for laying down. They did it in several games that year, including Georgia. Once they started slowly in 2012, they quit. With the exception of Tre and maybe J. Wallace trying his ass off at QB, they quit.
It wasn't that Johnny Foosballz was scoring at will. It was the blatantly obvious fact that we weren't even trying. I will bet that between A&M, Georgia and Bama that year, we didn't force 3 total punts. They quit even trying. That's the one thing I just can't stomach. That's really when "Something is NOT right at Auburn".
Other than Rudy half-assing it on a tackle, I don't see that here. Don't know what the problem is but I refuse to get caught up in the spirit that piece was written in. I started the Nut Up thread because I think it really speaks more to the climate or environment of the state of college foosballz. Several alluded to it. It's instant gratification. Win now or off with your head. Pressure, pressure, pressure from day one from fans, media and boosters alike. It's the nature of the beast and what college football has evolved into. Multi-skwazzillion $$$ industry, one notch below the NFL. Win now or be gone.
I hope they figure it out and get things on track. This will come off as AU GheyFamilyNation talk, but as long as they're busting their asses to get it figured out, I'm good with it. I refuse to believe the "Something's NOT right at Auburn" in the sense that there's some sinister, underlying problem. Dysfunction. Our coaches forgot how to coach. I'm going Saturday.
I'm not advocating Gus should be fired at all this year or the next, BTW*. I also love the staff Gus has put together both for coaching and recruiting. Wish we could swap Garner back to UGA for Rocker but everything else is golden.
Was just posting, because I do look at that site from time to time and thought it was interesting.
Like I said in the other thread, White was a breath of fresh air. New season 0-1 now lets see what these boys can do, I want to see close competitive games (or blowouts in our favor).
*A limited liability statement, I retain the right to change this comment at any time in the event we get blown out the rest of our games.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that, to the best of my knowledge, this is the first time Gus has had to deal with adversity on any of the teams he has coached. I'm with GF. I don't care if we go 0-8 in conference, I want to see teams that don't quit. I would also be happy if we don't get blown out by UGA.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that, to the best of my knowledge, this is the first time Gus has had to deal with adversity on any of the teams he has coached. I'm with GF. I don't care if we go 0-8 in conference, I want to see teams that don't quit. I would also be happy if we don't get blown out by UGA.
You can't mean this with a staff and team this talented. And just taking a lighter beatdown from UGA isnt acceptable either.
Hell yeah something is wrong.
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You can't mean this with a staff and team this talented. And just taking a lighter beatdown from UGA isnt acceptable either.
Hell yeah something is wrong.
I'm saying we hired a coach with 1 year of head coaching experience. I'm saying that I'm sick of getting blown out, and if those continue, I may change my attitude about him. If I see players who actually give a shit about being on the field, I won't be totally pissed off.
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We will win out mark it down! #winning
unless we don't
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I'm saying we hired a coach with 1 year of head coaching experience. I'm saying that I'm sick of getting blown out, and if those continue, I may change my attitude about him. If I see players who actually give a shit about being on the field, I won't be totally pissed off.
Harumph Harumph Harumph
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I'm saying we hired a coach with 1 year of head coaching experience. I'm saying that I'm sick of getting blown out, and if those continue, I may change my attitude about him. If I see players who actually give a shit about being on the field, I won't be totally pissed off.
We got our shit pushed in, but the players cared. :facepalm:
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We got our shit pushed in, but the players cared. :facepalm:
17 points and 320 yards given up to a Dan Mullen offense with Dak Prescott at QB and a 7'4" receiver.....ain't gettin' your shit pushed in.
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17 points and 320 yards given up to a Dan Mullen offense with Dak Prescott at QB and a 7'4" receiver.....ain't gettin' your shit pushed in.
I'm more worried about Ole piss, UGA and the turds.
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I'm concerned that we may be getting too many white players.
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I'm saying we hired a coach with 1 year of head coaching experience. I'm saying that I'm sick of getting blown out, and if those continue, I may change my attitude about him. If I see players who actually give a shit about being on the field, I won't be totally pissed off.
And I'm saying losing is unacceptable period. Mark Richt owns us. We beat them on the scoreboard but they had control of the game. Thank God we had Cam in 2010. This program shouldn't be sweating lesser opponents or teams with car less coaching and talent.
We can't even put two 9-4s together like Richt. And if I were an UGA fan that wouldn't make me happy considering the SEC East in recent years. It's not over for Gus but he knows something has to change, and quickly.
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Don't care if anyone disagrees. I believe in giving opportunity's to put things right but it appears that we are simulating the Chiz debacle. Could this be?
Do the player's take on the personality of the HC?
Close enough to win it in the end my ass!
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Don't care if anyone disagrees. I believe in giving opportunity's to put things right but it appears that we are simulating the Chiz debacle. Could this be?
Do the player's take on the personality of the HC?
Close enough to win it in the end my ass!
Well, are we just going to "will" it to happen because we are acting like entitled little brats? Or are we actually gonna give the dude a legit shot and get off his back like we are claiming we will do? Can't do both. And as much as fans can be realistic about this, our admin probably isnt. Our boosters probably aren't. The talk shows and pundits will not shut up about it. They stoke the fire.
Maybe K is right. Maybe THAT is the damn problem. You dont think this shit is in the coaches' pysche? They listen to shit. They read shit. They know what people are saying. Pressure ensues. Just sayin...I don't think he was far off there. This has happened with every single coach since Barfield, Dye included. They all seem to cave to the collective pressure put on them towards the end of their tenures (maybe aside from the Chiz who sealed his own fate). If were gonna give Gus until the end of the year, then let's actually do it. This is one thing UGA does better than us. If they had fired Richt as quick as us or Bama want to fire a coach, Richt would have been gone in 2007.
Maybe our adjusted expectations are where they really should have been all along, and should be going forward. We do better that way anyway. Low expectation but high result. We just have to temper things when that high result happens which we are not doing. Granted the media fuels this shit too but still....
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I'm concerned that we may be getting too many White players.
Fixed.
If you are gonna do it, get it right!
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. And as much as fans can be realistic about this, our admin probably isnt. Our boosters probably aren't. The talk shows and pundits will not shut up about it. They stoke the fire.
Maybe K is right. Maybe THAT is the damn problem. You dont think this shit is in the coaches' pysche? They listen to shit. They read shit. They know what people are saying. Pressure ensues. Just sayin...I don't think he was far off there.
Winning cures everything.
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Could be Malzahn is a top notch coordinator but not so much as a HC in this pressure cooker. None of us can explain what happened to Johnson. And there is a parallel about expectations perhaps and the inability to deliver.
We just don't seem to be able to sustain, build and progress as we should.
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Could be Malzahn is a top notch coordinator but not so much as a HC in this pressure cooker. None of us can explain what happened to Johnson. And there is a parallel about expectations perhaps and the inability to deliver.
We just don't seem to be able to sustain, build and progress as we should.
Coming off 2010 MNC and 2013 appearance we should be rolling right now.
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Coming off 2010 MNC and 2013 appearance we should be rolling right now.
Puzzling ain't it?
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Coming off 2010 MNC and 2013 appearance we should be rolling right now.
Again, the talent didnt drop. The coaches dont forget how to coach.
Dye had 83 and 88, then 90-92 happens??
Bowden has 93 and 94, then 97....and then 98 happens?
Tubs has 2004 - and 06 and 07 were a combined 20 wins, then 2008 happens?
Now Gus with 2010 (sorry Chiz but that was Gus/Cam) and 2013, now since the middle of 2014 and all of 2015 thus far?
There is something else at play here. And I think a lot of it is the environment we create as fans, admin, media, whatever....after having success. We win, we jump for joy and beat our chests. We lose, we want someone's head and asap. Our nature is ebb and flow, just like our results have been the last 20 years.
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Again, the talent didnt drop. The coaches dont forget how to coach.
Dye had 83 and 88, then 90-92 happens??
Bowden has 93 and 94, then 97....and then 98 happens?
Tubs has 2004 - and 06 and 07 were a combined 20 wins, then 2008 happens?
Now Gus with 2010 (sorry Chiz but that was Gus/Cam) and 2013, now since the middle of 2014 and all of 2015 thus far?
There is something else at play here. And I think a lot of it is the environment we create as fans, admin, media, whatever....after having success. We win, we jump for joy and beat our chests. We lose, we want someone's head and asap. Our nature is ebb and flow, just like our results have been the last 20 years.
Good points all.
Bit why do we always revert to the shithouse?
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Good points all.
Bit why do we always revert to the shithouse?
I would also say that our closest rivals have not had any (major) meltdowns in the last 8 to 10 years?
IF this continues we will be on our third/forth in 8 years.
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Good points all.
Bit why do we always revert to the shithouse?
Suffocation perhaps. Self inflicted.
Bama used to do this. They finally learned to back off. They hired a solid coach, sold the ranch to pay him and let him do his thing. UGA does the same.
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Rollercoaster...of love....say what? Rollercoaster.....woooo whooo who.
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Rollercoaster...of love....say what? Rollercoaster.....woooo whooo who.
Chick in background: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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We got our shoot pushed in, but the players cared. :facepalm:
If you couldn't see marked improvement between what White gave us and what JJ gave us, turn off your computer, box it up, and send it back to whereever you bought it, because you're too fucking stupid to use the internet.
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If you couldn't see marked improvement between what White gave us and what JJ gave us, turn off your computer, box it up, and send it back to whereever you bought it, because you're too fucking stupid to use the internet.
Damn it, man. It's loaded down with all that pern on the Google'd Chrome.
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If you couldn't see marked improvement between what White gave us and what JJ gave us, turn off your computer, box it up, and send it back to whereever you bought it, because you're too fucking stupid to use the internet.
I wasn't talking about JJ to White. I was talking about team overall, Starting with the coaching.
You got pretty low standards if you call that improvement. Which pretty much makes you stupider.
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If you couldn't see marked improvement between what White gave us and what JJ gave us, turn off your computer, box it up, and send it back to whereever you bought it, because you're too fucking stupid to use the internet.
This....all of it.
And this nature of us as a fanbase and admin in general is exactly what Im talking about.
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It's not too much to ask for consistency.
Dye had it: 5-6, 9-3, 11-1, 9-4, 8-4, 10-2, 9-1, 10-2, 10-2, 8-3, 5-6, 5-6
(The last two were the result of Donald Watkins and the Bama REC Cabal taking him down).
A BAD year under Dye was an eight-win season. He couldn't win the enchilada, but 1983 was the best Auburn team I've ever seen. It would beat 2013, beat 2004 and possibly even take out 2010. His 1986 team was a Kerwin Bell freak moustache hair from playing for it all. The 1988 team was a cajun earthquake from playing Notre Dame -- and beating the living fuck out of Lou Holtz -- for the title.
Bowden was close and I really thought he'd end up being like his Daddy and building a program for the long haul. 11-0, 9-1-1, 8-4, 8-4, 10-3, 3-8 dumpster fire and the axe.
Tuberville had it: 5-6, 9-4, 7-5 (crazy 9-11 season), 9-4, 8-5, 13-0, 9-3, 11-2, 9-4, 5-7 and Jacobs says GTFO!
A BAD Tuberville team was 7-8 wins. Every team but his first and his offensively confused last was in the fight all season long pretty much.
Chizik lost it: 8-5, 14-0, 8-5, 3-8 dumpster fire and GTFO!
And now Gus: 12-2, 8-5, the current utter debacle...
What do we have in common there? Jacobs.
Came in on the heels of the Housel bungle from the telemarketing side, no experience and at the beck and call of boosters. On the hunt for Tuberville at the direction of said boosters from the jump. Isolated Tuberville and made his job more difficult than it had to be. Interfered and was part of Chizik leaving in 2004, allegedly because he told him there was no future and it was a matter of time before Tuberville was out. Fucked up Muschamp's deal and ran him off. Then HIRED Chizik. Then threw the axe at him.
I think he meddles. I think it hurts the program.
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I wasn't talking about JJ to White.
You got pretty low standards if you call that improvement. Which pretty much makes you stupider.
I can't imagine how pissed and whiney you would be if you actually lived around this area. You get to sit three states away instead of having to see the enormous wave of red/black and crimson constantly, while stinking up the joint at the same time. You don't know how lucky you have it dude.
Quitcher bitchin, and put on your big boy panties and see if we can for once support a coach facing a little adversity and see if he can right this shit. You pundits have a shitload of quit in you. Not sure how you can complain about these 20 year olds on the field.
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I can't imagine how pissed and whiney you would be if you actually lived around this area. You get to sit three states away instead of having to see the enormous wave of red/black and crimson constantly, while stinking up the joint at the same time. You don't know how lucky you have it dude.
Quitcher bitchin, and put on your big boy panties and see if we can for once support a coach facing a little adversity and see if he can right this shoot. You pundits have a shootload of quit in you. Not sure how you can complain about these 20 year olds on the field.
Totally agree.
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I can't imagine how pissed and whiney you would be if you actually lived around this area. You get to sit three states away instead of having to see the enormous wave of red/black and crimson constantly, while stinking up the joint at the same time. You don't know how lucky you have it dude.
Quitcher bitchin, and put on your big boy panties and see if we can for once support a coach facing a little adversity and see if he can right this shit. You pundits have a shitload of quit in you. Not sure how you can complain about these 20 year olds on the field.
Not gonna argue that fan base wise I do have it easy, with Texas in the shits and the Aggies still just glad to be in the SEC I don't get any real shit from anybody.
I am on a message board venting about my football team. Nothing more, nothing less. We should not be having any of these conversations this year. I question my coaching staff because I want nothing but the best for my university.
I would also say how lucky your are that you live close and have every chance you want of going to any and all events that are Auburn without having to spend a couple of thousand dollars.
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They're just kids. Leave em' the hell alone, people.
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Totally agree.
nooooooooooo, really?
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What do we have in common there? Jacobs.
Came in on the heels of the Housel bungle from the telemarketing side, no experience and at the beck and call of boosters. On the hunt for Tuberville at the direction of said boosters from the jump. Isolated Tuberville and made his job more difficult than it had to be. Interfered and was part of Chizik leaving in 2004, allegedly because he told him there was no future and it was a matter of time before Tuberville was out. Fucked up Muschamp's deal and ran him off. Then HIRED Chizik. Then threw the axe at him.
I think he meddles. I think it hurts the program.
This is part of the equation. Between him, the rest of the admin, the boosters and us (who take on the same knee jerk personality as our admin) - we create an environment that totally goes against a coach being successful long term. They know they are just a hair away from GTFO at every corner. Its almost impossible to coach uninhibited knowing all that. Gus doesnt have the same fire in his eyes he did two years ago. You can see it.
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This is part of the equation. Between him, the rest of the admin, the boosters and us (who take on the same knee jerk personality as our admin) - we create an environment that totally goes against a coach being successful long term. They know they are just a hair away from GTFO at every corner. Its almost impossible to coach uninhibited knowing all that. Gus doesnt have the same fire in his eyes he did two years ago. You can see it.
I'd like to think he has the fire, I think he is just befuddle as to what the hell is going on. He has always been able to correct the wrongs, but now???????
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Not gonna argue that fan base wise I do have it easy, with Texas in the shits and the Aggies still just glad to be in the SEC I don't get any real shit from anybody.
I am on a message board venting about my football team. Nothing more, nothing less. We should not be having any of these conversations this year. I question my coaching staff because I want nothing but the best for my university.
I would also say how lucky your are that you live close and have every chance you want of going to any and all events that are Auburn without having to spend a couple of thousand dollars.
I get it man. Understand. We are all frustrated. But I think we have a good man at the helm. I really do. Are we going to let him coach and try to fix this? Or are we gonna swoop in like vultures like we always do and run him out of town on a rail? I would like to see him get it fixed and I think he can if given the chance. He has already shown that he can make tough decisions in regards to players and coaches. Hiring Muschamp showed me he was serious. I think the guy loves Auburn. He could have bolted to Texas or elsewhere. He didn't. Not to try and get all Fambly and shit, but I think we should at least hear the guy out and relax for a min. No, things are not that great. But it is what it is. Gus is still learning. He sure as hell isnt gonna right this ship if we all (admin and fans) suffocate his ass, and then subsequently hand him a nice "GTFO" notice.
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I get it man. Understand. We are all frustrated. But I think we have a good man at the helm. I really do. Are we going to let him coach and try to fix this? Or are we gonna swoop in like vultures like we always do and run him out of town on a rail? I would like to see him get it fixed and I think he can if given the chance. He has already shown that he can make tough decisions in regards to players and coaches. Hiring Muschamp showed me he was serious. I think the guy loves Auburn. He could have bolted to Texas or elsewhere. He didn't. Not to try and get all Fambly and shit, but I think we should at least hear the guy out and relax for a min. No, things are not that great. But it is what it is. Gus is still learning. He sure as hell isnt gonna right this ship if we all (admin and fans) suffocate his ass, and then subsequently hand him a nice "GTFO" notice.
:thumsup:
Not once have I called for his job. I hope he can right the ship. I think he has the talent, heart and brains to do it.
This board is a much better place when we are winning. #winning
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What do we have in common there? Jacobs.
Came in on the heels of the Housel bungle from the telemarketing side, no experience and at the beck and call of boosters. On the hunt for Tuberville at the direction of said boosters from the jump. Isolated Tuberville and made his job more difficult than it had to be. Interfered and was part of Chizik leaving in 2004, allegedly because he told him there was no future and it was a matter of time before Tuberville was out. Fucked up Muschamp's deal and ran him off. Then HIRED Chizik. Then threw the axe at him.
I think he meddles. I think it hurts the program.
Give that man a gold fucking star and a bag of potato chips. Which is another reason why even if we were to fire Gus we would fuck up the rehire. The man's a turd. Auburn man or not.
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Give that man a gold fucking star and a bag of potato chips. Which is another reason why even if we were to fire Gus we would fuck up the rehire. The man's a turd. Auburn man or not.
Transgender?
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I think a lot of whats wrong with Auburn is just a matter of being snakebit. If it can go wrong it pretty much has for this team. From there I think players and coaches are starting to press a little which only compounding the problem. A prime example of it was against UL in the season opener. Braden Smith gets his foot stepped on, grabs a jeresy on his way down, and a 50 yard TD pass by JJ is called back for holding. Instead of Auburn going up 31-3, JJ throws another pick, UL scores, and its game on. Who knows but maybe just maybe, if that hold doesn't happen, JJ never throws his 2nd or 3rd int in that game. Maybe just maybe he doesn't start pressing and lose his confidence. Another example comes via @WarRoomEagle Here we see Barber do as he is suppose to and follow the pulling guard. Beautiful. https://twitter.com/WarRoomEagle/status/648554068026204160 Next play, same call, power. THREE offensive lineman end up in the end zone, but Barber doesn't follow them. https://twitter.com/WarRoomEagle/status/648555504910868480 Thats not on the coaches folks. I mean what is Malzahn suppose to do? Barber has been the most productive player on offense by far. Next thing you know, Auburn is walking away with 0 points after being on the 2 yardline.
Like others have said this team hasn't quit. There's a huge difference between snakebitten and the shit show we witnessed back then. How huge is that difference in terms of wins on the field? I don't know. Yet, I do know this isn't 2012. We won't go out like that imo.
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I think a lot of whats wrong with Auburn is just a matter of being snakebit. If it can go wrong it pretty much has for this team. From there I think players and coaches are starting to press a little which only compounding the problem. A prime example of it was against UL in the season opener. Braden Smith gets his foot stepped on, grabs a jeresy on his way down, and a 50 yard TD pass by JJ is called back for holding. Instead of Auburn going up 31-3, JJ throws another pick, UL scores, and its game on. Who knows but maybe just maybe, if that hold doesn't happen, JJ never throws his 2nd or 3rd int in that game. Maybe just maybe he doesn't start pressing and lose his confidence. Another example comes via @WarRoomEagle Here we see Barber do as he is suppose to and follow the pulling guard. Beautiful. https://twitter.com/WarRoomEagle/status/648554068026204160 Next play, same call, power. THREE offensive lineman end up in the end zone, but Barber doesn't follow them. https://twitter.com/WarRoomEagle/status/648555504910868480 Thats not on the coaches folks. I mean what is Malzahn suppose to do? Barber has been the most productive player on offense by far. Next thing you know, Auburn is walking away with 0 points after being on the 2 yardline.
Like others have said this team hasn't quit. There's a huge difference between snakebitten and the shit show we witnessed back then. How huge is that difference in terms of wins on the field? I don't know. Yet, I do know this isn't 2012. We won't go out like that imo.
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This is part of the equation. Between him, the rest of the admin, the boosters and us (who take on the same knee jerk personality as our admin) - we create an environment that totally goes against a coach being successful long term. They know they are just a hair away from GTFO at every corner. Its almost impossible to coach uninhibited knowing all that. Gus doesnt have the same fire in his eyes he did two years ago. You can see it.
That last sentence summarizes this season. I attended Tiger Walk before the LSU game and Gus had the same look on his face as Tony Franklin did before the Vanderbilt game in '08. It was a defeated and confused look.
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It's not too much to ask for consistency.
Dye had it: 5-6, 9-3, 11-1, 9-4, 8-4, 10-2, 9-1, 10-2, 10-2, 8-3, 5-6, 5-6
(The last two were the result of Donald Watkins and the Bama REC Cabal taking him down).
A BAD year under Dye was an eight-win season. He couldn't win the enchilada, but 1983 was the best Auburn team I've ever seen. It would beat 2013, beat 2004 and possibly even take out 2010. His 1986 team was a Kerwin Bell freak moustache hair from playing for it all. The 1988 team was a cajun earthquake from playing Notre Dame -- and beating the living fuck out of Lou Holtz -- for the title.
Bowden was close and I really thought he'd end up being like his Daddy and building a program for the long haul. 11-0, 9-1-1, 8-4, 8-4, 10-3, 3-8 dumpster fire and the axe.
Tuberville had it: 5-6, 9-4, 7-5 (crazy 9-11 season), 9-4, 8-5, 13-0, 9-3, 11-2, 9-4, 5-7 and Jacobs says GTFO!
A BAD Tuberville team was 7-8 wins. Every team but his first and his offensively confused last was in the fight all season long pretty much.
Chizik lost it: 8-5, 14-0, 8-5, 3-8 dumpster fire and GTFO!
And now Gus: 12-2, 8-5, the current utter debacle...
What do we have in common there? Jacobs.
Came in on the heels of the Housel bungle from the telemarketing side, no experience and at the beck and call of boosters. On the hunt for Tuberville at the direction of said boosters from the jump. Isolated Tuberville and made his job more difficult than it had to be. Interfered and was part of Chizik leaving in 2004, allegedly because he told him there was no future and it was a matter of time before Tuberville was out. Fucked up Muschamp's deal and ran him off. Then HIRED Chizik. Then threw the axe at him.
I think he meddles. I think it hurts the program.
Dye knew coming in that he needed to also be the AD to get it done. We were always second fiddle in this state when Shug was at the helm and I think that was key for Auburn to be a regular contender.
So if this sequence of feast/famine continues we will suffer through this season, win 8 in 2016 and compete for the title in 2017. Then we drop off to 8 or 9 wins in 2018 before either duplicating that number of wins or shitting the bed the following year.
It's obvious that we will not have a dynasty at Auburn with that trend.
The wild card is getting that one special player to provide that lightning in a bottle the media is so fond of saying. We might lack in the development phase but have some of the best talent scouts in the game.
Uncle Miltie, I salute you!
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It's not too much to ask for consistency.
Dye had it: 5-6, 9-3, 11-1, 9-4, 8-4, 10-2, 9-1, 10-2, 10-2, 8-3, 5-6, 5-6 5-5-1
(The last two were the result of Donald Watkins and the Bama REC Cabal taking him down).
And I agree with everything you said about Jacobs.
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I think a lot of whats wrong with Auburn is just a matter of being snakebit. If it can go wrong it pretty much has for this team. From there I think players and coaches are starting to press a little which only compounding the problem. A prime example of it was against UL in the season opener. Braden Smith gets his foot stepped on, grabs a jeresy on his way down, and a 50 yard TD pass by JJ is called back for holding. Instead of Auburn going up 31-3, JJ throws another pick, UL scores, and its game on. Who knows but maybe just maybe, if that hold doesn't happen, JJ never throws his 2nd or 3rd int in that game. Maybe just maybe he doesn't start pressing and lose his confidence. Another example comes via @WarRoomEagle Here we see Barber do as he is suppose to and follow the pulling guard. Beautiful. https://twitter.com/WarRoomEagle/status/648554068026204160 Next play, same call, power. THREE offensive lineman end up in the end zone, but Barber doesn't follow them. https://twitter.com/WarRoomEagle/status/648555504910868480 Thats not on the coaches folks. I mean what is Malzahn suppose to do? Barber has been the most productive player on offense by far. Next thing you know, Auburn is walking away with 0 points after being on the 2 yardline.
Like others have said this team hasn't quit. There's a huge difference between snakebitten and the shit show we witnessed back then. How huge is that difference in terms of wins on the field? I don't know. Yet, I do know this isn't 2012. We won't go out like that imo.
All symptoms...not causes.
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And I agree with everything you said about Jacobs.
Thus why he is SOME of the overall issue....but not all of it. There are other people at play besides Jay. I personally think hes a puppet. Doesnt make the worst hires in the world as of late, but also won't let them do their jobs and hasn't since he was hired. This stuff has an effect on coaches.
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Thus why he is SOME of the overall issue....but not all of it. There are other people at play besides Jay. I personally think hes a puppet. Doesnt make the worst hires in the world as of late, but also won't let them do their jobs and hasn't since he was hired. This stuff has an effect on coaches.
The only thing keeping me from driving down to Auburn with a noose and hanging Jacobs are the Pearl and Myers hires.
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The only thing keeping me from driving down to Auburn with a noose and hanging Jacobs are the Pearl and Myers hires.
Now let's pump those brakes a bit. Be honest. Would you ever have seen Golloway's daughter's fun bags if it wasn't for Jay? Let's give the man a wee bit of credit here.
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Golloway's daughter's fun bags
In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary: come again?
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Now let's pump those brakes a bit. Be honest. Would you ever have seen Golloway's daughter's fun bags if it wasn't for Jay? Let's give the man a wee bit of credit here.
Excellent point, counselor.
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In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary: come again?
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Thus why he is SOME of the overall issue....but not all of it. There are other people at play besides Jay. I personally think hes a puppet. Doesnt make the worst hires in the world as of late, but also won't let them do their jobs and hasn't since he was hired. This stuff has an effect on coaches.
Right...he's a puppet and a mouthpiece for damage control. But where he shines is at fundraising.
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I would breast feed till I was 12.
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Depends on what kind of work you're into.
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So Tubs put golden on the hotter seat.
What's the odds on Tubs making it full circle back to the U?
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So Tubs put golden on the hotter seat.
What's the odds on Tubs making it full circle back to the U?
I really like where your head is at.
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So Tubs put golden on the hotter seat.
What's the odds on Tubs making it full circle back to the U?
I'd figured he was on a nation tour. Like 4 teams in 6 years or something like that?
Left Texas Tech in the middle of a recruiting visit.
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He's just ramping up for duck season.
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He's just ramping up for duck season.
wabbit season.
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wabbit season.
Kill da wabbit, Kill da wabbit, Kill da wabbit, Kill da wabbit...
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I'd figured he was on a nation tour. Like 4 teams in 6 years or something like that?
Left Texas Tech in the middle of a recruiting visit.
Between TT and Ole Miss, his defenders really need to be reminded of both. Like Greg Allman said - He aint no angel.
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Between TT and Ole Miss, his defenders really need to be reminded of both. Like Greg Allman said - He aint no angel.
He'll show you his tattoo.
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Between TT and Ole Miss, his defenders really need to be reminded of both. Like Greg Allman said - He aint no angel.
He'll show you his tattoo.
But he might take my diamonds?
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Lets start a Tubberville back to Auburn thread.
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www.bringtubbyhome.com
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Lets start a Tubberville back to Auburn thread.
let's don't
besides, he would have to leave a 3rd school in the middle of the night without notice while lying. talk about having a coach with a bad reputation.
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let's don't
besides, he would have to leave a 3rd school in the middle of the night without notice while lying. talk about having a coach with a bad reputation.
Duuude, ArmyEagle gets it. I be joking.
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Duuude, ArmyEagle gets it. I be joking.
its no laughing matter. frightening in fact.