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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on September 20, 2015, 11:02:11 AM
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Something needs to change about Auburn.
Is it the athletic dorms? Is the athletic department? Does Tiger Walk last too long? Are we feeding them the wrong food? Too much sugar? Too much fat? Is the curriculum in their majors not hard enough? Too easy? Do we need to change the air filters in the a/c units? Do we need to shut off the a/c units?
I am so sick and tired of watching Auburn be the soft team. Every year since 2009, it seems like we have a swath of children on scholarship who would rather look cool and play catch than lay the wood on somebody.
I'm on campus right now. I've seen Tray Matthews. First time I saw him and didn't know who he was, I assumed he was a linebacker. Dude is thick and tall, and as a strong safety should be the last person a running back wants to see coming full speed. Whatever that tackle was embodied everything that has been wrong with Auburn's defense since Tuberville left.
Even in our bright moments, our defense gives up big plays. 2010 could have been a GOAT candidate with the way the offense dominated teams. Defensively? Without Nick Fairley making freak-Warren Sapp plays throughout every game, we might lose four games.
Soft. SOOOOFFT.
Oh, big strong tailback? Gonna loaf over and not even hit him. Notice how Ford talked shit and then got blasted by Danielson for whatever that bullshit was? At least he was honest. "Oh it won't be hard to stop him. We have a great front 7." Yeah you hoped we had a great front 7 because you soft back 4 are too damn scared to make a hit.
Watching Ole Miss and Alabama play made me want to puke. Even when it was 43-whatever, all I could think about was how OLE MISS was the hard hitting defense that was disrupting plays, laying the wood, and covering receivers. They have the athletes. They have the strength. They have the swagger. They have the talent. They're prepared and coached. They have good play calls. They've watched film.
Auburn for years now is young on defense. Needs to simplify the defensive schemes! Did I really hear Danielson say that Muschamp needed to simplify the defensive schemes? Seriously? How many Auburn teams are going to need shit simplified for them? Last I read, Auburn was the one of smarter schools in the SEC. Smarter than Bama. Better scores of incoming students. But our team needs shit simplified every year unless we have a player that take over games by himself.
Offensively, whatever. I couldn't even tell you about the whole offensive unit because it doesn't matter. Jeremy Johnson threw the ball backwards. The ball went backwards, and it was a dry September day.
The guy has 8 turnovers in three games. I am completely baffled that he stayed in the entire game. Not even a chance for Sean White to hand the ball off. White could have at least felt the field beneath his feet for a few minutes.
Whatever. Season's probably over. 2013 this is not.
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Watching Ole Miss and Alabama play made me want to puke. Even when it was 43-whatever, all I could think about was how OLE MISS was the hard hitting defense that was disrupting plays, laying the wood, and covering receivers. They have the athletes. They have the strength. They have the swagger. They have the talent. They're prepared and coached. They have good play calls. They've watched film.
Auburn for years now is young on defense. Needs to simplify the defensive schemes! Did I really hear Danielson say that Muschamp needed to simplify the defensive schemes? Seriously? How many Auburn teams are going to need shit simplified for them? Last I read, Auburn was the one of smarter schools in the SEC. Smarter than Bama. Better scores of incoming students. But our team needs shit simplified every year unless we have a player that take over games by himself.
Offensively, whatever. I couldn't even tell you about the whole offensive unit because it doesn't matter. Jeremy Johnson threw the ball backwards. The ball went backwards, and it was a dry September day.
The guy has 8 turnovers in three games. I am completely baffled that he stayed in the entire game. Not even a chance for Sean White to hand the ball off. White could have at least felt the field beneath his feet for a few minutes.
With you 100% on this. As far as the season is over, with JJ at the helm I believe it might be unfortunately.
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For the most part, some of these kids are not coached well at the HS level. This causes bad habits to be formed and carried over to the college level. These hard to break habits coupled with the million dollar mentality of playing in the NFL results in some kids who want to stay healthy until they can play for $$$. This is not indicativeoif every player, but bad apple(s) can spoil the whole bunch. What they fail to realize is they must perform to get the money. Matthews made some type of gymnastic move on Fournette to tackle him. I don't know what da Hell dat wuz, but it WAS NOT form tackling. Fournette must be hit low to be brought down. Our team needs real help, real quick. Aside from breaking them down mentally when they step foot on the practice field for the first time (i.e. like military basic training), I don't have a solution. It's hard to see a recovery this year.
On a good note, the bammers shall be muted this week until they find an excuse for their loss. I must say, at least bama didn't give up.
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The attempted "tackle" that Matthews made on 7. :facepalm:
Although I haven't read or heard anything about it, I think and hope that it was an attempt to strip the ball. That was my first thought anyway. It had to be. I hope. Kid made a poor decision but trying to make something good happen.
Re: the rest of the day, I think I may just give myself a self-imposed ban like jmar. I don't have anything much to say and really don't care what any of you have to say. Well, to be fair, I've never read much of what any of you have said anyway but this was bad.
Don't care how young we are, don't care how we thought we had made minor improvement on d or how exciting it is to see my two favs, Barber and Ray, come to play every Sat. Don't care that JJ apparently has naked pics if Gus doing Lash.
Don't care that Muschamp is currently the worst investment since Ted Turner bought AOL.
Don't care that so many had us going to the playoff and winning SEC because honestly, I never believed that anyway. That was pie in the sky.
But I do care that it looks like we've gone backward. We are losing chunks of ground. Again.
And without a qb change, I may miss my first entire season of going to a game in around 35 years. I'm more disappointed than mad. Gus is either too stubborn or afraid to do what needs to be done yesterday.
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This year is another wasted year of high expectations and low output performance.
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Look for more blowouts against uga and bama, ole miss, Tam. We might can beat arky as they suck as bad as we do.. I don't know about Idaho.
This team has no heart and that starts with coaching.
Will may go down as the worst hire of the year.
Right now I would not let Rhett coach a high school team. I really question his talent evaluation.
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While I'm not impressed with what I've seen so far this year I'm not ready to toss in the towel............yet.
Taking a realistic look at our future I offer my opinions.........like 'em or not.
First the negatives
We look bloated and slow on defense, out of sync and unprepared out of position.
Offense looks lost, except for Barber and Louis.
Both look like they are running in concrete boots, the heat and humidity excuse is bullshit.......didn't bother LSU.
Positives?
Not many right now, except maybe for the kicking game.
Possible fixes:
Maybe JJ needs to run more, sure he'll get his ass popped, but that might get his head cleared. What has he got to lose.
Did we really expect Muschamp to perform miracles and rebuild this nonexistant defense overnight. Folks it's been years since we've had a real defense. He's got a hell of a job trying to overcome years of incompetence.
Like you I'm disapointed in JJ, he looked great against Arky, should Gus put him on a short leash next week? I think he should, continue to be lost and throw the ball to anybody in a different color jersey, then yank his ass. Anybody else couln't be as bad.
Another question I have, do we have a strength and conditioning coach anymore? Sure as hell doesn't look like it. Are the team members required to attend?
My take on Gus, for what it's worth, I would wait to see if he can fix all this shit. For the rest of the year and what he will do after the season is over, will he change coaches. Someone else on another thread suggested Craig take over as QB coach, that and OC might work.
In summary, If I knew as much as I think i do then I would be making the big bucks.
Sorry for the length, but I am not a happy camper and I'm old been through this kind of crap for years.
Just would like to see us competitive, not slow and lazy.
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Did we really expect Muschamp to perform miracles and rebuild this nonexistant defense overnight. Folks it's been years since we've had a real defense. He's got a hell of a job trying to overcome years of incompetence.
I expected to see at least basic fundamentals to improve. We have an Eliis Johnson/ted roof defense being coached by Will.
I see no difference.
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Something needs to change about Auburn.
Is it the athletic dorms? Is the athletic department? Does Tiger Walk last too long? Are we feeding them the wrong food? Too much sugar? Too much fat? Is the curriculum in their majors not hard enough? Too easy? Do we need to change the air filters in the a/c units? Do we need to shut off the a/c units?
I am so sick and tired of watching Auburn be the soft team. Every year since 2009, it seems like we have a swath of children on scholarship who would rather look cool and play catch than lay the wood on somebody.
I'm on campus right now. I've seen Tray Matthews. First time I saw him and didn't know who he was, I assumed he was a linebacker. Dude is thick and tall, and as a strong safety should be the last person a running back wants to see coming full speed. Whatever that tackle was embodied everything that has been wrong with Auburn's defense since Tuberville left.
Even in our bright moments, our defense gives up big plays. 2010 could have been a GOAT candidate with the way the offense dominated teams. Defensively? Without Nick Fairley making freak-Warren Sapp plays throughout every game, we might lose four games.
Soft. SOOOOFFT.
Oh, big strong tailback? Gonna loaf over and not even hit him. Notice how Ford talked shit and then got blasted by Danielson for whatever that bullshit was? At least he was honest. "Oh it won't be hard to stop him. We have a great front 7." Yeah you hoped we had a great front 7 because you soft back 4 are too damn scared to make a hit.
Watching Ole Miss and Alabama play made me want to puke. Even when it was 43-whatever, all I could think about was how OLE MISS was the hard hitting defense that was disrupting plays, laying the wood, and covering receivers. They have the athletes. They have the strength. They have the swagger. They have the talent. They're prepared and coached. They have good play calls. They've watched film.
Auburn for years now is young on defense. Needs to simplify the defensive schemes! Did I really hear Danielson say that Muschamp needed to simplify the defensive schemes? Seriously? How many Auburn teams are going to need shit simplified for them? Last I read, Auburn was the one of smarter schools in the SEC. Smarter than Bama. Better scores of incoming students. But our team needs shit simplified every year unless we have a player that take over games by himself.
Offensively, whatever. I couldn't even tell you about the whole offensive unit because it doesn't matter. Jeremy Johnson threw the ball backwards. The ball went backwards, and it was a dry September day.
The guy has 8 turnovers in three games. I am completely baffled that he stayed in the entire game. Not even a chance for Sean White to hand the ball off. White could have at least felt the field beneath his feet for a few minutes.
Whatever. Season's probably over. 2013 this is not.
All that's really needed is the installation of perseverance, determination and intelliletc. Most of the players have the right attitude, but have real direction. For the most part this is a direct result of internal decision and some strife between corches and players concerning Duke's issues. If they work this shit.out and replace JJ with a competent QB, only. Only might we finish without too m much damage. I am not hold my.breath, however I am scouting potential JUCO QBS who wish to play at the next level. His having a 3.5 to 4.0 cumulative grade avg and zero personal issues is desireable for qualifying academically for.immediate start). I wish for an intelligent, dedicated, determined, quick and fast QB with size enough to run over folks like LBS and secondary (https://mobile.twitter.com/SEC_Bandit/status/645330067380289536/video/1 ). I also feel he must live in the dorms.and film room. At lot to wish for? Yes. Doable? You betcha. Please excuse the typing errors.
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I'm not gonna poo on Trigga Tray. There were several times he was making the tack IN FRONT OF THe LBs!
So he definitely stuck his head in there. But at some time, you get tired of banging that sore shoulder while watching the others take a playboy fifty off.
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I'm not gonna poo on Trigga Tray. There were several times he was making the tack IN FRONT OF THe LBs!
So he definitely stuck his head in there. But at some time, you get tired of banging that sore shoulder while watching the others take a playboy fifty off.
I read somewhere that he was trying to go high to get a hit on the ball instead of just going for the tackle.
Another thought - LSU really isn't that good. Well, we don't really know much about them since we were so bad. I will say that their passing game didn't look all that much better than ours. I wouldn't trust Harris to make any meaningful plays if someone was stuffing LF at the line of scrimmage, which can be accomplished.
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Alabama losing doesn't it any less horrible to realize how the Auburn just looked like total shit Saturday. I still have hope the coaches will make the necessary changes to give this team a better chance to win. Everyone that has seen JJ play feels the same way about his mindset, that being its all jacked up. I have no idea if bringing in White will help anything but I would have to believe it would. Hell, put the Smith kid in and run the shit out of the Wildcat. Anything is better that what we have witnessed the last three weeks. The D on the other hand, Muschamp better light a fire up under some asses because there are guys on the D that have quit on plays. I've never known Will to put up with that.
One more thing, Fournette is Heisman front runner thanks to the Auburn D.
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Strange season so far. Completely the opposite of what we expected or hoped for. Our Heisman hopeful apparently is a Heisman head case. The "Best defensive coordinator in the country" has a defense that's 75 places behind where Ellis Johnson had us last season. Perspective:
We've got talent all over the field. Not gonna' go down the list. There's 4 and 5 star talent everywhere. Both sides of the ball. I still dare you to find a better overall coaching staff than what we have. What's missing? What's going on? Will Muschamp doesn't coach defenses that give up this kind of points and yardage. Gus Malzahn and Rhett Lashlee have put up sick numbers every year..everywhere. No QB hasn't flourished under CGM's watch.
So what's wrong? Gotta' be fixable, right? The pieces are there. I refuse to believe this defense is inept. That Muschamp has lost it. I refuse to believe that Gus Malzahn suddenly forgot how to coach up a QB. People, we have talent. Lots of it. We have great coaches. Across the board. We're in a bad place dating back to late last year. How do we get this turned around?
Either way, I'll be at the X-Gate or there with whoever Saturday for Mississippi State and a chance for us to go 3-1 and 1-1 in the West. Too much talent. Too much top flight corching experience to let this get away from us.
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Strange season so far. Completely the opposite of what we expected or hoped for. Our Heisman hopeful apparently is a Heisman head case. The "Best defensive coordinator in the country" has a defense that's 75 places behind where Ellis Johnson had us last season. Perspective:
We've got talent all over the field. Not gonna' go down the list. There's 4 and 5 star talent everywhere. Both sides of the ball. I still dare you to find a better overall coaching staff than what we have. What's missing? What's going on? Will Muschamp doesn't coach defenses that give up this kind of points and yardage. Gus Malzahn and Rhett Lashlee have put up sick numbers every year..everywhere. No QB hasn't flourished under CGM's watch.
So what's wrong? Gotta' be fixable, right? The pieces are there. I refuse to believe this defense is inept. That Muschamp has lost it. I refuse to believe that Gus Malzahn suddenly forgot how to coach up a QB. People, we have talent. Lots of it. We have great coaches. Across the board. We're in a bad place dating back to late last year. How do we get this turned around?
Either way, I'll be at the X-Gate or there with whoever Saturday for Mississippi State and a chance for us to go 3-1 and 1-1 in the West. Too much talent. Too much top flight corching experience to let this get away from us.
I still have my three tickets and still plan on going.
On that note, I have one ticket if someone needs it. My newly anointed brother as a diddy will have to miss it.
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I'm watching it now for the first time.
I'm going to state without hesitation that the entire problem with this team is Jeremy Johnson. Everything else builds from there.
Let's start from the beginning against Louisville.
The defense plays like their asses are on fire. They shut out Louisville in the first half. They gift one touchdown with an interception return into the red zone. They create another touchdown on their own. Johnson? Two first half interceptions and looked like a drunk donkey most of the game. He continued to play like he had his head up his ass and in the second half the defense just got tired (and injured). I don't think it played that badly.
Jacksonville State. The defense held a talented Gamecock team to 20 points. But the putrid offense -- which should have legitimately racked 45-60 couldn't do dick, shit or squat. That game is not on the defense.
I'm watching LSU now. Bitch all you want about the defense, but through the first half they played pretty fucking hard. They overran some plays, they got knocked out of position. Fournette is going to run roughshod over a couple of teams this season. AU won't be the first or the last. I'm not at all unhappy with how the defense is playing. But at some point when the offense continues to just shit all over the field, there's a natural inclination to hold back. Still no Lawson. Players coming out left and right with injury. Yeah, the first Fournette run was rough. But he's going to get his. Through the whole first half we made them work. And what did the offense do? Shit the bed. Piss the floor.
Moving the ball fairly well on the first drive. On a second and one, Johnson throws the motherfucking ball backward to set up a third and 19. Fuck.
Punt, LSU grinds out a drive and goes up 14.
Second AU drive has a little promise. Numbfuck throws an interception.
Defense holds LSU to three and out.
Two extremely shitty pass attempts by Johnson to open receivers fall incomplete. Punt.
Long LSU drive ends with a field goal.
Next two Auburn series consist of eight total plays and 15 total yards. Punt, Punt.
Defense in 'fuck it all" mode.
Come out and score when Johnson's dumb fucking ass FINALLY runs.
LSU follows by gashing the defense on the ground and it's over.
I really think that if Johnson doesn't play like a handicapped caribou in the first half it's a different game.
I don't think we beat LSU, but we'd have a chance to win in the fourth.
FWIW? LSU's not a very good team. They are going to get their shit pushed in several times this season because they really can't do much else but hand the ball to Fournette over and over. Harris is awful when called on to actually be a quarterback. But Johnson is fucking worse.
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I'm watching it now for the first time.
I'm going to state without hesitation that the entire problem with this team is Jeremy Johnson. Everything else builds from there.
Let's start from the beginning against Louisville.
The defense plays like their asses are on fire. They shut out Louisville in the first half. They gift one touchdown with an interception return into the red zone. They create another touchdown on their own. Johnson? Two first half interceptions and looked like a drunk donkey most of the game. He continued to play like he had his head up his ass and in the second half the defense just got tired (and injured). I don't think it played that badly.
Jacksonville State. The defense held a talented Gamecock team to 20 points. But the putrid offense -- which should have legitimately racked 45-60 couldn't do dick, shit or squat. That game is not on the defense.
I'm watching LSU now. Bitch all you want about the defense, but through the first half they played pretty fucking hard. They overran some plays, they got knocked out of position. Fournette is going to run roughshod over a couple of teams this season. AU won't be the first or the last. I'm not at all unhappy with how the defense is playing. But at some point when the offense continues to just shit all over the field, there's a natural inclination to hold back. Still no Lawson. Players coming out left and right with injury. Yeah, the first Fournette run was rough. But he's going to get his. Through the whole first half we made them work. And what did the offense do? Shit the bed. Piss the floor.
Moving the ball fairly well on the first drive. On a second and one, Johnson throws the motherfucking ball backward to set up a third and 19. Fuck.
Punt, LSU grinds out a drive and goes up 14.
Second AU drive has a little promise. Numbfuck throws an interception.
Defense holds LSU to three and out.
Two extremely shitty pass attempts by Johnson to open receivers fall incomplete. Punt.
Long LSU drive ends with a field goal.
Next two Auburn series consist of eight total plays and 15 total yards. Punt, Punt.
Defense in 'fuck it all" mode.
Come out and score when Johnson's dumb fucking ass FINALLY runs.
LSU follows by gashing the defense on the ground and it's over.
I really think that if Johnson doesn't play like a handicapped caribou in the first half it's a different game.
I don't think we beat LSU, but we'd have a chance to win in the fourth.
FWIW? LSU's not a very good team. They are going to get their shit pushed in several times this season because they really can't do much else but hand the ball to Fournette over and over. Harris is awful when called on to actually be a quarterback. But Johnson is fucking worse.
Agree with all of this.
Auburn of old is gone. Under Gus, Auburn stays in the game with offense, not defense. Will Muschamp was supposed to hold the opponent to just enough.
I agree with Kaon. This is 98% on JJ.
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With you 100% on this. As far as the season is over, with JJ at the helm I believe it might be unfortunately.
The issues with this team and staff go way far beyond the QB/JJ.
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The issues with this team and staff go way far beyod the QB.
Explain?
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Explain?
I think you've hit on it. I'm reading/posting from my phone right now and have not read the whole thread. Our Defense is horrible. LB play is shitty and Jake Holland like. I've not seen Muschamp get uncontrollably fired up. Tells me he's half tanked it. I read a tweet by Rob Pate that suggested the defense may be laying down if Gus doesn't make a change at QB. To that end it may be that JJ is a big portion of the problem but I think that speaks to a larger issue with the staff. We've seen some shitty teams with stout defenses. We suck 8 ways to Sunday with a team many experts claim appears to be as athletic as any. I don't know what it is but it's deeper that QB issues IMHO. You mentioned soft? Why are we? No reason for it beyond disfunction.
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I think you've hit on it. I'm reading/posting from my phone right now and have not read the whole thread. Our Defense is horrible. LB play is shitty and Jake Holland like. I've not seen Muschamp get uncontrollably fired up. Tells me he's half tanked it. I read a tweet by Rob Pate that suggested the defense may be laying down if Gus doesn't make a change at QB. To that end it may be that JJ is a big portion of the problem but I think that speaks to a larger issue with the staff. We've seen some shitty teams with stout defenses. We suck 8 ways to Sunday with a team many experts claim appears to be as athletic as any. I don't know what it is but it's deeper that QB issues IMHO. You mentioned soft? Why are we? No reason for it beyond disfunction.
Ah. Gotya. I inferred a David Ward-implication from your post. Thought you knew some inside info.
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Ah. Gotya. I inferred a David Ward-implication from your post. Thought you knew some inside info.
Just know what I see and seems you see too. I have seen some otherwise decent teams rally around an underperforming quarterback. This team if that is the problem seems to be laying down because of JJ. In my opinion that is a much more deep seated issues than just a quarterback problem.
I know there have been issues between Muschamp and Garner in the past. Problems there now? Dont know.
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I'm watching it now for the first time.
I'm going to state without hesitation that the entire problem with this team is Jeremy Johnson. Everything else builds from there.
Let's start from the beginning against Louisville.
The defense plays like their asses are on fire. They shut out Louisville in the first half. They gift one touchdown with an interception return into the red zone. They create another touchdown on their own. Johnson? Two first half interceptions and looked like a drunk donkey most of the game. He continued to play like he had his head up his ass and in the second half the defense just got tired (and injured). I don't think it played that badly.
Jacksonville State. The defense held a talented Gamecock team to 20 points. But the putrid offense -- which should have legitimately racked 45-60 couldn't do dick, shit or squat. That game is not on the defense.
I'm watching LSU now. Bitch all you want about the defense, but through the first half they played pretty fucking hard. They overran some plays, they got knocked out of position. Fournette is going to run roughshod over a couple of teams this season. AU won't be the first or the last. I'm not at all unhappy with how the defense is playing. But at some point when the offense continues to just shit all over the field, there's a natural inclination to hold back. Still no Lawson. Players coming out left and right with injury. Yeah, the first Fournette run was rough. But he's going to get his. Through the whole first half we made them work. And what did the offense do? Shit the bed. Piss the floor.
Moving the ball fairly well on the first drive. On a second and one, Johnson throws the motherfucking ball backward to set up a third and 19. Fuck.
Punt, LSU grinds out a drive and goes up 14.
Second AU drive has a little promise. Numbfuck throws an interception.
Defense holds LSU to three and out.
Two extremely shitty pass attempts by Johnson to open receivers fall incomplete. Punt.
Long LSU drive ends with a field goal.
Next two Auburn series consist of eight total plays and 15 total yards. Punt, Punt.
Defense in 'fuck it all" mode.
Come out and score when Johnson's dumb fucking ass FINALLY runs.
LSU follows by gashing the defense on the ground and it's over.
I really think that if Johnson doesn't play like a handicapped caribou in the first half it's a different game.
I don't think we beat LSU, but we'd have a chance to win in the fourth.
FWIW? LSU's not a very good team. They are going to get their shit pushed in several times this season because they really can't do much else but hand the ball to Fournette over and over. Harris is awful when called on to actually be a quarterback. But Johnson is fucking worse.
pretty much what Rob Pate said.....the D will get to a point where they will lose morale and go "whats the point?". he would know.
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I'm watching LSU now. At some point when the offense continues to just shoot all over the field, there's a natural inclination to hold back. And what did the offense do? shoot the bed. Piss the floor.
Moving the ball fairly well on the first drive. On a second and one, Johnson throws the motherfudgeing ball backward to set up a third and 19. fudge.
Punt, LSU grinds out a drive and goes up 14.
Second AU drive has a little promise. Numbfudge throws an interception.
Two extremely shootty pass attempts by Johnson to open receivers fall incomplete. Punt.
Next two Auburn series consist of eight total plays and 15 total yards. Punt, Punt.
Come out and score when Johnson's dumb fudgeing ass FINALLY runs.
I really think that if Johnson doesn't play like a handicapped caribou in the first half it's a different game.
I don't think we beat LSU, but we'd have a chance to win in the fourth.
But Johnson is fudgeing worse.
C'mon now. All the great ones do it.
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C'mon now. All the great ones do it.
Manning and Brady would have thrown 10-11 in the same time frame against those opponents.
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I read a tweet by Rob Pate that suggested the defense may be laying down if Gus doesn't make a change at QB.
If this is true, we have much bigger problems than JJ sucking.
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Just know what I see and seems you see too. I have seen some otherwise decent teams rally around an underperforming quarterback. This team if that is the problem seems to be laying down because of JJ. In my opinion that is a much more deep seated issues than just a quarterback problem.
JJ is much more than just "underperforming". He has been absolutely HORRIBLE! Worst QB play I have ever seen at Auburn. That includes Keihl.
If Auburn was playing good on offense, we wouldn't be having the conversation right now...defense or not...
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JJ is much more than just "underperforming". He has been absolutely HORRIBLE! Worst QB play I have ever seen at Auburn. That includes Keihl.
If Auburn was playing good on offense, we wouldn't be having the conversation right now...defense or not...
Agree JJ is fucking worse than any could have dreamed. If the offense were good of course we wouldn't be having this conversation and maybe the defense would be a little bit better but what I see out of the defense still concerns me greatly. I see a defense that doesn't look much improved at all. Put some of that on JJ and the O...I get that....but they are not good at all.
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Agree JJ is fucking worse than any could have dreamed. If the offense were good of course we wouldn't be having this conversation and maybe the defense would be a little bit better but what I see out of the defense still concerns me greatly. I see a defense that doesn't look much improved at all. Put some of that on JJ and the O...I get that....but they are not good at all.
And they werent gonna be overnight. That was ok....not gonna hang WM after 3 games, especially with the dysfunction of the O. Like K said, I saw a lot of good in the first half against UL. They looked sharp and played hard. I hadn't seen that in a while. Seems they saw in JJ what we did after that and there was a bit of demoralizing of the whole team that happened. Plus, the D has been on the field about 2/3 of the time, which also has everything to do with all of JJ's issues, the 3 and outs, short fields, etc. The O's dysfunction and overall team morale that followed is at the root of all of this. The coaches not being able to handle all of this and adjust/coach, is the bigger issue though. Its like Gus doesnt know what to do aside from keeping his wagon hitched to his pride and joy of a QB, right over a cliff.
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And they werent gonna be overnight. That was ok....not gonna hang WM after 3 games, especially with the dysfunction of the O. Like K said, I saw a lot of good in the first half against UL. They looked sharp and played hard. I hadn't seen that in a while. Seems they saw in JJ what we did after that and there was a bit of demoralizing of the whole team that happened. Plus, the D has been on the field about 2/3 of the time, which also has everything to do with all of JJ's issues, the 3 and outs, short fields, etc. The O's dysfunction and overall team morale that followed is at the root of all of this. The coaches not being able to handle all of this and adjust/coach, is the bigger issue though. Its like Gus doesnt know what to do aside from keeping his wagon hitched to his pride and joy of a QB, right over a cliff.
I think most people sees the biggest problem on the team is at QB. Fix that and fix a lot of shit. I hope that morale you speak fixes the damn tacking too. Good gosh man!
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I think most people sees the biggest problem on the team is at QB. Fix that and fix a lot of shit. I hope that morale you speak fixes the damn tacking too. Good gosh man!
Its easy for us to sit back and say things, but I think CCT said it - if you are Tray Matthews, your team is down 3-4 TDs, and your QB is dysfunctional (and you know the O is gonna do nothing) - are you really amped up enough to put your injured shoulder in front of Fournette AGAIN? In a close game where I know my O can score? Sure. But in the context of where our team was, hell no. I dont blame him one bit. Ours guys were tackling just fine the first 3 quarters against UL when there was still hope. JJ has been exposed. The fans know it, the other teams know it and our own damn team knows it.
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I am not saying the defense is great by any means, but this is on the offense.
LSU first drive went 75 yards with 71 being on the first play. I thought the defense played pretty good up the middle on the goal line and LSU couldn't just power through the middle to score. Brandon harris went outside and if it weren't for a missed tackle on over pursuit of Harris at the 5 on third down, Auburn would have forced a FG.
LSU second drive, Auburn played decent. Gave up a 27 yard run on 3rd and 7 which was mainly because of Kris fucking Frost who for some reason went outside to double team the damn RB and left the middle wide fucking open for Harris to run. One player making a bone headed decision to allow a huge gain and bad conversion.
This second drive was after the offense had something going and JJ decided to throw the damn ball backwards. Auburn had the ball at the 50 before JJ lost 18 yards by going full ass tard...
3rd possession - LSU punt after JJ interception
4th possession - LSU FG after 60 yard drive
5th possession a TD after pinning them deep and then letting Harris again escape for 33 yards on a third down deep in LSU territory. Then Fornette scores from 40 yards out.
At that point the defense was gasses I think. They had been on the field the whole first half because the offense sucks ass.
I am willing to give the defense a pass right now. They are who I thought they would be. Especially without Lawson.
I lay this on the offense and JJ in particular. If JJ doesn't lay an egg, the game doesn't go like that for the defense.
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Lets say Malzahn says to hell with it and benches JJ, what next? Serious question. Would it be a Sean White show, Jason Smit wildcat show or perhaps a combination. I'm thinking a combination at this point to see what works best against live SEC action.
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At that point the defense was gasses I think. They had been on the field the whole first half because the offense sucks ass.
And this is an easy thing for people to dismiss. It matters. Especially in 95+ degree heat. Being physically miserable feeling combined with having absolutely 0 confidence in your offense = what we saw.
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Lets say Malzahn says to hell with it and benches JJ, what next? Serious question. Would it be a Sean White show, Jason Smit wildcat show or perhaps a combination. I'm thinking a combination at this point to see what works best against live SEC action.
Put Barber, Johnson, Thomas all in the backfield and just snap to one of them at random. Never throw a pass.
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Lets say Malzahn says to hell with it and benches JJ, what next? Serious question. Would it be a Sean White show, Jason Smit wildcat show or perhaps a combination. I'm thinking a combination at this point to see what works best against live SEC action.
No fucking clue. I am not out there and have no clue who can play QB. I do know who can't play QB though...and that is Jeremy Johnson. I like the kid and honestly feel bad for him. But holy shit man...it ain't happening. I really really really really wanted to play football for Auburn but couldn't because I wasn't good enough. Same applies here. He had his chance and it didn't work out. Time to find another option, whatever that may be.
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No fucking clue. I am not out there and have no clue who can play QB. I do know who can't play QB though...and that is Jeremy Johnson. I like the kid and honestly feel bad for him. But holy shit man...it ain't happening. I really really really really wanted to play football for Auburn but couldn't because I wasn't good enough. Same applies here. He had his chance and it didn't work out. Time to find another option, whatever that may be.
Well it sure has hell isnt the same Jeremy Johnson that I saw against Arkansas last year thats for sure. His mind is jacked up about something. The only other option would be Tyler Queen but I highly doubt that is a realistic option. I would have to think White or perhaps Smith. At this point, what would it even matter. It sure doesn't look like things will get better with JJ at QB.
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Well it sure has hell isnt the same Jeremy Johnson that I saw against Arkansas last year thats for sure. His mind is jacked up about something. The only other option would be Tyler Queen but I highly doubt that is a realistic option. I would have to think White or perhaps Smith. At this point, what would it even matter. It sure doesn't look like things will get better with JJ at QB.
Or Tommy John.
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Or Tommy John.
He should be over that by now right? Even then, I don't think this is a realistic option.
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He should be over that by now right? Even then, I don't think this is a realistic option.
If so, I know a few MLB teams that would love to have the 3 week process for Tommy John that Auburn's staff has.
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One thing is for sure, we will see what this coaching staff is made of. If they make some changes they are trying.
Same shit on the field and they have mailed it in.
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Lets say Malzahn says to hell with it and benches JJ, what next? Serious question. Would it be a Sean White show, Jason Smit wildcat show or perhaps a combination. I'm thinking a combination at this point to see what works best against live SEC action.
It would be the Sean White show, and we'd probably still suck.
But would we suck like we have been? Would White just throw it directly to the other team six times (really more since there have been what, four dropped picks the last three games)?
Would White throw the ball BACKWARDS at the beginning of a huge SEC matchup?
Would White have any heart? Any moxie? Any swagger?
I'm already sick of the JJ "deer in the headlights" look he seems to have every time they show his face. He's not leading this team at all. No pats on the back or slaps to the helmet. No real communication with his receivers.
The guy is absurdly bad. He might look like Dan Marino in practice and A-Day games, but against live defenses, he's not good enough to play FCS ball.
Put in White. We're going 5-7 anyway. At least get a spark going.
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If so, I know a few MLB teams that would love to have the 3 week process for Tommy John that Auburn's staff has.
For some reason I thought this was the 2014 Summer when he had surgery.
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Put in White. We're going 5-7 anyway. At least get a spark going.
This is where I am at now.
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It would be the Sean White show, and we'd probably still suck.
But would we suck like we have been? Would White just throw it directly to the other team six times (really more since there have been what, four dropped picks the last three games)?
Would White throw the ball BACKWARDS at the beginning of a huge SEC matchup?
Would White have any heart? Any moxie? Any swagger?
I'm already sick of the JJ "deer in the headlights" look he seems to have every time they show his face. He's not leading this team at all. No pats on the back or slaps to the helmet. No real communication with his receivers.
The guy is absurdly bad. He might look like Dan Marino in practice and A-Day games, but against live defenses, he's not good enough to play FCS ball.
Put in White. We're going 5-7 anyway. At least get a spark going.
Why wasn't this pick-up in the 6 weeks leading up to the season?
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Why wasn't this pick-up in the 6 weeks leading up to the season?
I have to imagine he's great in practice. There's a reason why analysts who watched us practice in the fall called us one of the most talented teams they've ever seen at Auburn.
It's the speed of the live game that makes him suck. JJ has no innovation. In practice, he's pretty much given the situation ahead of time and can make the read. There's also no pressure. He was gifted the starting position back in 2013 when Marshall had an injury.
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Why wasn't this pick-up in the 6 weeks leading up to the season?
Because he was practicing against the Auburn defense?
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Because he was practicing against the Auburn defense?
Bingo.
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I'm watching it now for the first time.
I'm going to state without hesitation that the entire problem with this team is Jeremy Johnson. Everything else builds from there.
Let's start from the beginning against Louisville.
The defense plays like their asses are on fire. They shut out Louisville in the first half. They gift one touchdown with an interception return into the red zone. They create another touchdown on their own. Johnson? Two first half interceptions and looked like a drunk donkey most of the game. He continued to play like he had his head up his ass and in the second half the defense just got tired (and injured). I don't think it played that badly.
Jacksonville State. The defense held a talented Gamecock team to 20 points. But the putrid offense -- which should have legitimately racked 45-60 couldn't do dick, shit or squat. That game is not on the defense.
I'm watching LSU now. Bitch all you want about the defense, but through the first half they played pretty fucking hard. They overran some plays, they got knocked out of position. Fournette is going to run roughshod over a couple of teams this season. AU won't be the first or the last. I'm not at all unhappy with how the defense is playing. But at some point when the offense continues to just shit all over the field, there's a natural inclination to hold back. Still no Lawson. Players coming out left and right with injury. Yeah, the first Fournette run was rough. But he's going to get his. Through the whole first half we made them work. And what did the offense do? Shit the bed. Piss the floor.
Moving the ball fairly well on the first drive. On a second and one, Johnson throws the motherfucking ball backward to set up a third and 19. Fuck.
Punt, LSU grinds out a drive and goes up 14.
Second AU drive has a little promise. Numbfuck throws an interception.
Defense holds LSU to three and out.
Two extremely shitty pass attempts by Johnson to open receivers fall incomplete. Punt.
Long LSU drive ends with a field goal.
Next two Auburn series consist of eight total plays and 15 total yards. Punt, Punt.
Defense in 'fuck it all" mode.
Come out and score when Johnson's dumb fucking ass FINALLY runs.
LSU follows by gashing the defense on the ground and it's over.
I really think that if Johnson doesn't play like a handicapped caribou in the first half it's a different game.
I don't think we beat LSU, but we'd have a chance to win in the fourth.
FWIW? LSU's not a very good team. They are going to get their shit pushed in several times this season because they really can't do much else but hand the ball to Fournette over and over. Harris is awful when called on to actually be a quarterback. But Johnson is fucking worse.
THIS ALL OF FUCKING IT!
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THIS ALL OF FUCKING IT!
Have a Snickers. You make no sense when you're hungry.
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I am not saying the defense is great by any means, but this is on the offense.
LSU first drive went 75 yards with 71 being on the first play. I thought the defense played pretty good up the middle on the goal line and LSU couldn't just power through the middle to score. Brandon harris went outside and if it weren't for a missed tackle on over pursuit of Harris at the 5 on third down, Auburn would have forced a FG.
LSU second drive, Auburn played decent. Gave up a 27 yard run on 3rd and 7 which was mainly because of Kris fucking Frost who for some reason went outside to double team the damn RB and left the middle wide fucking open for Harris to run. One player making a bone headed decision to allow a huge gain and bad conversion.
This second drive was after the offense had something going and JJ decided to throw the damn ball backwards. Auburn had the ball at the 50 before JJ lost 18 yards by going full ass tard...
3rd possession - LSU punt after JJ interception
4th possession - LSU FG after 60 yard drive
5th possession a TD after pinning them deep and then letting Harris again escape for 33 yards on a third down deep in LSU territory. Then Fornette scores from 40 yards out.
At that point the defense was gasses I think. They had been on the field the whole first half because the offense sucks ass.
I am willing to give the defense a pass right now. They are who I thought they would be. Especially without Lawson.
I lay this on the offense and JJ in particular. If JJ doesn't lay an egg, the game doesn't go like that for the defense.
I'm not trying to alibi for any one side of the ball or player. IMHO this whole team sux. JJ may be teh primo suckage, and its arguable he affects the other side of the ball. I disagree on the defense though. They suck far worse than they should IMO. I believe there are issues with staff and team cohesion. Just my observation.
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"I'm still very confident and I know it's going to click as a team," Johnson said. "It aint' just me – we just going to click as a team and all the good things are going to start happening for us."
See. It's not just JJ. All the greats spread the blame too.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/auburn_goes_from_growing_pains.html#incart_2box (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/auburn_goes_from_growing_pains.html#incart_2box)
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To me, this all falls on Gus and Rhett. Anyone...literally, a person who has never watched a game of football before, would know to pull Jeremy Johnson after the first half.
But no, they refuse. There is a fine line between sticking with a QB to show faith and pure ignorant stubbornness. We have progressed far past the latter.
So, with that being said, why would they act stubbornly and keep JJ in the game? Have they completely given up on this team? If so, they need to be fired. Do they think JJ is a beast? If so, they need to be fired. They obviously can't evaluate talent.
I am fucking tired of watching our team half-ass plays. If a player doesn't want to try, sit his ass on the bench. I don't care if he is the best player we have...you give 100% or you sit on the bench. This goes for coaches too. I watched the post game interviews and they almost made me vomit. The coach speak is obnoxious and if they honestly believe the sentiment then we are fucked. The coach speak bullshit carries over to the players as well. Ford was being interviewed, and I shit you not, said "I thought we played well, I guess we need to go look at the film and figure out what went wrong." I am paraphrasing a bit, but that was pretty close to his quote. Are you fucking kidding me?
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To me, this all falls on Gus and Rhett. Anyone...literally, a person who has never watched a game of football before, would know to pull Jeremy Johnson after the first half.
But no, they refuse. There is a fine line between sticking with a QB to show faith and pure ignorant stubbornness. We have progressed far past the latter.
So, with that being said, why would they act stubbornly and keep JJ in the game? Have they completely given up on this team? If so, they need to be fired. Do they think JJ is a beast? If so, they need to be fired. They obviously can't evaluate talent.
I am fucking tired of watching our team half-ass plays. If a player doesn't want to try, sit his ass on the bench. I don't care if he is the best player we have...you give 100% or you sit on the bench. This goes for coaches too. I watched the post game interviews and they almost made me vomit. The coach speak is obnoxious and if they honestly believe the sentiment then we are fucked. The coach speak bullshit carries over to the players as well. Ford was being interviewed, and I shit you not, said "I thought we played well, I guess we need to go look at the film and figure out what went wrong." I am paraphrasing a bit, but that was pretty close to his quote. Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm starting to get pissed off again. Thanks yo.
I keed, but I feel the same way. Regardless if you, the defensive player, feels like fuck it, yo ass is on scholly representing the university. Ford should be last dude saying this considering everyone saw ass back away even after running his mouth about the guy he refused to tackle.
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To me, this all falls on Gus and Rhett. Anyone...literally, a person who has never watched a game of football before, would know to pull Jeremy Johnson after the first half.
But no, they refuse. There is a fine line between sticking with a QB to show faith and pure ignorant stubbornness. We have progressed far past the latter.
So, with that being said, why would they act stubbornly and keep JJ in the game? Have they completely given up on this team? If so, they need to be fired. Do they think JJ is a beast? If so, they need to be fired. They obviously can't evaluate talent.
I am fucking tired of watching our team half-ass plays. If a player doesn't want to try, sit his ass on the bench. I don't care if he is the best player we have...you give 100% or you sit on the bench. This goes for coaches too. I watched the post game interviews and they almost made me vomit. The coach speak is obnoxious and if they honestly believe the sentiment then we are fucked. The coach speak bullshit carries over to the players as well. Ford was being interviewed, and I shit you not, said "I thought we played well, I guess we need to go look at the film and figure out what went wrong." I am paraphrasing a bit, but that was pretty close to his quote. Are you fucking kidding me?
Just look at JJ's quote from the post above yours.
Something's fucky with this team. Maybe Malzahn has a miracle up his sleeve, but this team is reminding me a whole lot of 2012.
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Just look at JJ's quote from the post above yours.
Something's fucky with this team. Maybe Malzahn has a miracle up his sleeve, but this team is reminding me a whole lot of 2012.
I just threw up in my mouth...
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Just look at JJ's quote from the post above yours.
Something's fudgey with this team. Maybe Malzahn has a miracle up his sleeve, but this team is reminding me a whole lot of 2012.
More like 2003 to me.
This side's going to be "TOUCHDOWN" and this side's going to be "AUBURN"
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Just look at JJ's quote from the post above yours.
Something's fucky with this team. Maybe Malzahn has a miracle up his sleeve, but this team is reminding me a whole lot of 2012.
Does Gus have the same "I do nothing wrong" arrogance and narcissism from 2013 happening, that Chizik got from 2010 happening? I think its very possible.
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Something's fucky with this team. Maybe Malzahn has a miracle up his sleeve, but this team is reminding me a whole lot of 2012.
Yes, there's something bad wrong here. Something well beyond "JJ just need's coaching up" or "the Defense will come around as soon as the Offense plays well." There's no miracle for this team.
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Does Gus have the same "I do nothing wrong" arrogance and narcissism from 2013 happening, that Chizik got from 2010 happening? I think its very possible.
As much as I have been defending Gus, I am starting to wonder.
Offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said Sunday that he expects junior Jeremy Johnson, who has struggled through three games, to remain Auburn's starting quarterback in Saturday's game against Mississippi State at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
Is Gus trolling us? Seriously are they watching the same game we are? Perhaps someone keeps putting in the game tape that says first half of Arkansas 2014?
Does JJ have photos of Malzahn and Lashlee naked together?
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Yes, there's something bad wrong here. Something well beyond "JJ just need's coaching up" or "the Defense will come around as soon as the Offense plays well." There's no miracle for this team.
I still don't blame the defense as much as the offense isn't doing squat, even though you keep writing it.
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I still don't blame the defense as much as the offense isn't doing squat, even though you keep writing it.
That's ok, it's not necessary that you blame anyone or buy in to anything I write. It's an opinion. Nothing more.
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That's ok, it's not necessary that you blame anyone or buy in to anything I write. It's an opinion. Nothing more.
I'm actually not disagreeing with you, I do think it is more than JJ. I am just blaming the offense more.
Defense does definitely need to improve. I guess I am just giving them more leeway for injuries, a new coach and slew of true freshman.
and I am frustrated as fuck with these coaches unwilling to fucking make a change. Which I totally agree might be an even bigger failure, but fuck try something else!
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Did Jason Campbell receive this same treatment for underachieving in 2003? If I remember correctly he did. We all remember what happened in 2004. Does JJ suck as bad as Jason did back then? Or worse? I'm patient enough to tolerate this dumpster fire in exchange for an undefeated season in 2016 or 2017. I do believe AU went 8 - 5 in '03. Of course then, AU had a decent defense. We look more like 2011 and 2014. I hate to see another buy. I am giving them another two years after this season's FAIL.
http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Campbell-relishes-his-journey-ponders-his-future-36889477
Then there is this:
http://auburn.247sports.com/Bolt/Another-crash-coming-for-Auburn-39609962
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Good point, BF.
Here are Campbell's numbers from 2003 in the first three games:
44/78 for 531 yards. 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.
Here are Jeremy Johnson's:
43/72 for 473 yards. 5 touchdowns. 6 interceptions.
A few notes:
1. For one, this goes along with what I've been preaching the last two days. We had a dysfunctional offense in 2003. But because our program was built to produce hard hitting, fundamentally sound defenses, we were able to get our offense straight and go on to upset two top ten teams (@Arkansas and Tennessee) and nearly beat SECW Co-Champ (they have a banner, you know) Ole Miss.
The defense through the first three games of 2003 (total yards given up each game):
315
251
221
The defense through the first three games of 2015:
405
438
485
In fact, the 2003 defense never once gave up over 400 yards. Perhaps as Wes stated, offenses are just that much more dynamic and hard to defend. Still though, the defense was stout in 2003 and allowed Campbell to have time to progress until he was good enough to be the QB of 2004 and go on to have a long, successful NFL career.
2. Did Campbell ever throw the ball backwards? No? Case closed.
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Did Jason Campbell receive this same treatment for underachieving in 2003?
I personally blamed Tuberville and Nallsminger for the disaster of 2003.
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Good point, BF.
Here are Campbell's numbers from 2003 in the first three games:
44/78 for 531 yards. 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.
Here are Jeremy Johnson's:
43/72 for 473 yards. 5 touchdowns. 6 interceptions.
A few notes:
1. For one, this goes along with what I've been preaching the last two days. We had a dysfunctional offense in 2003. But because our program was built to produce hard hitting, fundamentally sound defenses, we were able to get our offense straight and go on to upset two top ten teams (@Arkansas and Tennessee) and nearly beat SECW Co-Champ (they have a banner, you know) Ole Miss.
The defense through the first three games of 2003 (total yards given up each game):
315
251
221
The defense through the first three games of 2015:
405
438
485
In fact, the 2003 defense never once gave up over 400 yards. Perhaps as Wes stated, offenses are just that much more dynamic and hard to defend. Still though, the defense was stout in 2003 and allowed Campbell to have time to progress until he was good enough to be the QB of 2004 and go on to have a long, successful NFL career.
2. Did Campbell ever throw the ball backwards? No? Case closed.
The big difference between Campbell and JJ though is those interceptions. Again JJ should have had 10 interceptions. Jason was a decent game manager even through 2003 and yes we had Karlos Dansby and DT.
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The big difference between Campbell and JJ though is those interceptions. Again JJ should have had 10 interceptions. Jason was a decent game manager even through 2003 and yes we had Karlos Dansby and DT.
Campbell had a different coordinator every year. JJ's on his 3rd year in this system. He looks lost.
Nallsminger was an abortion of epic proportions. Campbell never had a chance in that system.
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Campbell had a different coordinator every year. JJ's on his 3rd year in this system. He looks lost.
Nallsminger was an abortion of epic proportions. Campbell never had a chance in that system.
Yep. There were all kinds of excuses for Campbell.
There are none for JJ looking this lost.
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Campbell had a different coordinator every year. JJ's on his 3rd year in this system. He looks lost.
Nallsminger was an abortion of epic proportions. Campbell never had a chance in that system.
Egg Zackery
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I ran into wally world to grab some stuff for the grand baby and some guy going in looks at me and says "Y'all had a rough day Saturday, huh?" I just smiled and said yeah. Then he said, "I think its your quarterback". (He was sincere)
I stopped in my tracks, cocked my head toward him and said "Ya think". We both laughed and agreed that when a RANDOM FAN CAN SEE THAT BUT THE COACHES CANNOT, WELL, WE ARE IN FOR A WORLD OF SHIT.
<should this be in the cool story bro thread>
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I ran into wally world to grab some stuff for the grand baby and some guy going in looks at me and says "Y'all had a rough day Saturday, huh?" I just smiled and said yeah. Then he said, "I think its your quarterback". (He was sincere)
I stopped in my tracks, cocked my head toward him and said "Ya think". We both laughed and agreed that when a RANDOM FAN CAN SEE THAT BUT THE COACHES CANNOT, WELL, WE ARE IN FOR A WORLD OF SHIT.
<should this be in the cool story bro thread>
Not sure that qualifies for the CSB thread. I'll get a ruling and get back to you.
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Not sure that qualifies for the CSB thread. I'll get a ruling and get back to you.
Well, considering we don't have a "that story sucks, bro" thread, I assume so.
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Well, considering we don't have a "that story sucks, bro" thread, I assume so.
:getoff:
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You can unscrew a lightbulb.
You cannot unscrew a pregnant woman.
Guess which one we are?
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You cannot unscrew a pregnant woman.
Guess which one we are?
Simp knows the answer.
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You can unscrew a lightbulb.
You cannot unscrew a pregnant woman.
Guess which one we are?
I was told there would be no math.
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Simp knows the answer.
:rimshot:
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Where JJ is concerned, I'm reminded of one of my all-time fav commercials...
https://youtu.be/3BkIh1R5utY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nShJm4mKIpY
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I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of my teammates. Leon can't do it all.
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I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of my teammates. Leon can't do it all.
Soooo..your 4 fumbles had nothing to with it?
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Soooo..your 4 fumbles had nothing to with it?
Well, my teammates should have fallen on the ball.
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I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of my teammates. JJ can't do it.
Soooo..your 4 interceptions had nothing to with it?
Well, the other team should not have caught those balls.
JJ version.
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Fickle fans. Haven't listened to any Finebaum in the last week or two. Mostly our local shows. With both in-state schools losing, the inevitable meltdowns were a given. I'm cool with being pissed about what's going on. Fine with breaking stuff down and saying what you think is going wrong and what should be done. Hey, all part of being a fan and part of the game. Well documented the last week or two with us. But Sweet Haysus, get some damn perspective.
Don't know what the general sense is around the state on Bama, but around here, it's clear. Kiffin needs to go. Now!!! Are you shittin' me? When LK was hired, most people, including Bama fans, questioned it. We all snickered. But the man proved himself and countless pieces were written about how it turned out to be the right call and they hope they can keep him for a few more years, yada, yada, yada...
No real complaints through the first 2 games. Just need to settle on a QB. Then...the loss. For 3 days, I've heard call after call after call complaining about everything Kiffin does from his play calling to how he parallel parks. He's got to go!!!
I thought he developed QB's. We'z got all these here 5 stars and he don't know how to coach a darn QB.
Blake Sims says hey.
What Sabinz has always done is run the ball. We got the greatest back ever to play and Derrick Henry ain't gettin' the ball.
I think the 23 carries for 127 yards he got, which I think is about his average the first 3 games, says otherwise.
Kiffin don't know how to attack a decent defense. Ole Miss wuz pretty good. They ain't Bama but they'z got some good players like that Kimdonkychee feller.
Umm...yeah. They had the #1 defense in the best conference in America last year. Virtually everyone back. 37 points and over 500 yards sounds real inept to me. You brain dead fucks. Lane Kiffin wasn't responsible for any one of the 5 turnovers your team had. Eliminate 2-3 of those and you probably go for 50 plus and over 600 yards.
I done said when he wuz hard. He ain't the man for the job. Perspective!!!
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I do not like the dude personally but his O's have put up yards. Turnovers are what is killing them.
With Bateman and Coker, they rolled up over 500 yards of O and almost 40 points against an OM D that is supposed to be stout with Ndeiecheeugabongoche. Their D giving up over 40 points a game to Offenses who run a version of the dual threat qb/Spread it out/HUNH would be my complaint. Cam, Johnny Football, Nick Marshall, Ohio State, and now Chad Kelly - should not the Bammer fans be pointing the finger straight at Kirby and Nick? Nick Marshall and his O put more yards on Bama last year than any opponent in their history - and that was coming off a game where Jeremy Pruitt shut NM and Co. down.
Just sayin....Kiffin is the scapegoat here, not the problem.
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I do not like the dude personally but his O's have put up yards. Turnovers are what is killing them.
With Bateman and Coker, they rolled up over 500 yards of O and almost 40 points against an OM D that is supposed to be stout with Ndeiecheeugabongoche. Their D giving up over 40 points a game to Offenses who run a version of the dual threat qb/Spread it out/HUNH would be my complaint. Cam, Johnny Football, Nick Marshall, Ohio State, and now Chad Kelly - should not the Bammer fans be pointing the finger straight at Kirby and Nick? Nick Marshall and his O put more yards on Bama last year than any opponent in their history - and that was coming off a game where Jeremy Pruitt shut NM and Co. down.
Just sayin....Kiffin is the scapegoat here, not the problem.
Werd!!!
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I do not like the dude personally but his O's have put up yards. Turnovers are what is killing them.
With Bateman and Coker, they rolled up over 500 yards of O and almost 40 points against an OM D that is supposed to be stout with Ndeiecheeugabongoche. Their D giving up over 40 points a game to Offenses who run a version of the dual threat qb/Spread it out/HUNH would be my complaint. Cam, Johnny Football, Nick Marshall, Ohio State, and now Chad Kelly - should not the Bammer fans be pointing the finger straight at Kirby and Nick? Nick Marshall and his O put more yards on Bama last year than any opponent in their history - and that was coming off a game where Jeremy Pruitt shut NM and Co. down.
Just sayin....Kiffin is the scapegoat here, not the problem.
Well to defy Lord Saban does equal death.
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Decent read.
Malzahn's worst misread (Jeremy Johnson) may linger for Auburn
JON SOLOMON
The rise and fall of Auburn quarterback Jeremy Johnson after three weeks is one of the most stunning developments of the young season. As good a coach as Malzahn has been, the decision to bench Johnson completes Malzahn's worst miscalculation. It's a cautionary tale of how little we know about quarterbacks until the lights are on.
Sure, this is panic mode. But it's panic mode for a reason. Malzahn had to pull the trigger and bench Johnson. It was painfully obvious Johnson lacked confidence to continue starting so something had to be done, even if it means switching to redshirt freshman Sean White, who will sink or swim in the SEC after virtually no first-team practice reps.
This is an admission that Malzahn got terribly wrong Johnson's development and analysis of his readiness. (And yes, we in the media were dead wrong to buy into the hype.)
“I don't think I've seen a quarterback who you decide to put out there fail this quickly,†said Jack Crowe, a former longtime coach at schools like Auburn, Clemson and Arkansas and who now analyzes Auburn for an online show. “Did they not scrimmage this guy? All of this had to be showing up somewhere. Since there's so much contact taken out of early practices, they didn't really know what this guy could do. It's obvious now.â€
New quarterbacks fail all of the time, but Johnson wasn't supposed to be just any new quarterback. He was chosen and developed by Malzahn, who has typically been ahead of the curve in how he utilizes quarterbacks based on their skill set. Malzahn also previously missed on prized recruit Kiehl Frazier, but Malzahn only worked with him for one year and was at Arkansas State when Frazier flamed out as Auburn's starter in 2012.
Malzahn had two years to groom Johnson behind Nick Marshall, who was a much different quarterback. Time had been a luxury Malzahn never enjoyed in his college career until Johnson.
It's really rare for an SEC coach to bring a first-year starting quarterback to SEC Media Days. Yet there was Johnson in Hoover, Ala., as Malzahn offered high praise for his new quarterback. Malzahn said Johnson was talented enough that he could have transferred and started for the majority of college teams.
“(Johnson) can flat out throw it,†Malzahn said in July. “He can make every throw that you ask him to do, but he's a better runner than people think. … So he will allow us to call all of our offense.â€
We know the rest of the story. Johnson completed 60 percent of his passes -- down from 73 percent his first two years in a mop-up role -- and was intercepted six times in three games. Most of the picks were right to defenders, as if Johnson never saw them standing there.
What went wrong? Ken Mastrole, a personal quarterback coach whose opinions about the position are as good as I have found in the game, offered some thoughts. Mastrole was a rare person who correctly told me last summer he thought one of his pupils, Blake Sims, could not only win the Alabama job over Jake Coker, but have success. Alabama won the SEC and reached the College Football Playoff.
Disclaimer: Mastrole coached White for years and doesn't know what's going on in Johnson's head. But Mastrole has worked with quarterbacks long enough -- and he was one himself -- to know the tell-tale signs.
“I feel for Jeremy because I think being able to compartmentalize confidence and anxiety levels are the biggest thing,†Mastrole said. “Successful quarterbacks let the game come to them and just cut loose. It was almost like he wasn't letting it all go and maybe the lights got a little too big and that starts to become mountainous. The toughest part for a quarterback to compete is if you can't execute between the hashes, you're depleting the whole offense. It was like Jeremy threw a ball that wasn't coming off with any authority.â€
One play against LSU symbolized Johnson's struggles. Johnson had a clean pocket as he dropped back to throw. While he looked downfield, the ball inexplicably slipped out of his hand for an 18-yard loss.
“You could tell he was really tentative and you could see all the weight on the front leg and he's not releasing it,†Mastrole said. “It was like, ‘The window's there, but I don't know if it's there and I'm starting to see things.' Things start to lock up and the game goes so fast. I hated to see it for the guy. I hate to see that for any quarterback at the college level. The kids at these age and what they go through, especially at the SEC level, it's a conference that's really like no other in terms of scrutiny and pressure.â€
We lose sight of that too often. The intensity of major college football carries a burden for 18- to 22-year-olds that some of them simply can't handle. It's possible Johnson one day returns to the field.
For now, White takes over an Auburn season that's heading nowhere fast. Who is White? He's a past MVP of the Under Armour All-American game and the top performer at the Elite 11 quarterback competition.
Mastrole has worked with White since the eighth grade and believes he's a rare quarterback who mentally gets it and is mature enough to avoid the stage becoming too big. Mastrole remembers White's calm demeanor as an eighth grader in one all-star game despite a “really roady sideline†when Snoop Dogg brought a team from California to play White's team in Florida. Mastrole thinks White will be able to open up the field for more downfield throws to Duke Williams and Ricardo Louis.
“Sean has the ability to keep the offense flowing,†Mastrole said. “He's got incredible pocket presence and he quickly gets rid of the football. There's no second-guessing. For Sean, it's going to be a case of experience and getting in the flow of a game. But he's a kid I felt strongly about for the longest time before he became a nationally recognized kid.â€
Forget College Football Playoff talk. A bowl game isn't even a given at this point for Auburn, especially with talented defensive end Carl Lawson still injured for a woeful defense.
“The quarterback had to change, but to me, quarterback isn't as big as what's going on in the locker room right now,†Crowe said. “The players have to take control of the team. They're not showing leadership on defense.â€
Malzahn put an end to his biggest error yet as a coach. Now we're about to see how long the mistake lingers.
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I'll say it again...he was scrimmaging against Auburn's defense without Carl Lawson all spring and most of the summer. I could have thrown for 200+ every time out as well.
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I'll say it again...he was scrimmaging against Auburn's defense without Carl Lawson all spring and most of the summer. I could have thrown for 200+ every time out as well.
You tell them Uncle Rico.
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“Did they not scrimmage this guy? All of this had to be showing up somewhere?
BINGO :facepalm:
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Decent read.
Yes, but Jack Crowe? JC needs to cool it Jack Freaking Crowe questioning Malzahn?
I'm all about the switch to the white boy. Wish they'd pulled the trigger for LSU but now we have a QB expert saying what a lot of us were saying. JJ got the yips.
He may or may not ever play at AU. I don't know. But, JJ has as much potential as any QB I've seen in the SEC this year. And could still be one of the best QB's in AU history. That's a very big "could" at this point. If you've ever had or seen the yips, you know what I mean. It ain't easy to overcome.
So, Gus got it wrong and now we have a new QB. Worse things could've happened.
And I'd rather read jmar, Jr's or even AUChizad's analysis of what happened than Jack “Did they not scrimmage this guy?" Crowe.
The stage fright won't show up in a scrimmage Jack. And there is a reason you aren't coaching anymore, dumbass.
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Yes, but Jack Crowe? JC needs to cool it Jack Freaking Crowe questioning Malzahn?
I'm all about the switch to the white boy. Wish they'd pulled the trigger for LSU but now we have a QB expert saying what a lot of us were saying. JJ got the yips.
He may or may not ever play at AU. I don't know. But, JJ has as much potential as any QB I've seen in the SEC this year. And could still be one of the best QB's in AU history. That's a very big "could" at this point. If you've ever had or seen the yips, you know what I mean. It ain't easy to overcome.
So, Gus got it wrong and now we have a new QB. Worse things could've happened.
And I'd rather read jmar, Jr's or even AUChizad's analysis of what happened than Jack “Did they not scrimmage this guy?" Crowe.
The stage fright won't show up in a scrimmage Jack. And there is a reason you aren't coaching anymore, dumbass.
I would rather read what a former Auburn coach has to say.
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I would rather read what a former Auburn coach has to say.
Srsly? What if I throw in Bottomfeeder, Dallas and myself?
Whatever floats the boat.
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Srsly? What if I throw in Bottomfeeder, Dallas and myself?
Whatever floats the boat.
Well...when you put it like that, give me Crowe anyday.
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Well...when you put it like that, give me Crowe anyday.
Fine.
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Yes, but Jack Crowe? JC needs to cool it Jack Freaking Crowe questioning Malzahn?
I'm all about the switch to the white boy. Wish they'd pulled the trigger for LSU but now we have a QB expert saying what a lot of us were saying. JJ got the yips.
He may or may not ever play at AU. I don't know. But, JJ has as much potential as any QB I've seen in the SEC this year. And could still be one of the best QB's in AU history. That's a very big "could" at this point. If you've ever had or seen the yips, you know what I mean. It ain't easy to overcome.
So, Gus got it wrong and now we have a new QB. Worse things could've happened.
And I'd rather read jmar, Jr's or even AUChizad's analysis of what happened than Jack “Did they not scrimmage this guy?" Crowe.
The stage fright won't show up in a scrimmage Jack. And there is a reason you aren't coaching anymore, dumbass.
I normally gloss over your posts or pass them by completely. But I think you almost had a coherent thought in this one.
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Srsly? What if I throw in Bottomfeeder, Dallas and myself?
Whatever floats the boat.
At least I am second in the throw in. :haha:
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At least I am second in the throw in. :haha:
Small victories. Baby steps.
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At least I am second in the throw in. :haha:
Small victories. Baby steps.
I practice real well, but my game day isn't all that.
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I practice real well, but my game day isn't all that.
Even Jack Crowe hates you.
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Even Jack Crowe hates you.
#chortles
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Even Jack Crowe hates you.
Why should he be any different?
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Why should he be any different?
Bet your wife's rack is better than his wife's. :bar: Dallas
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Bet your wife's rack is better than his wife's. :bar: Dallas
If she feels like it, I'll check this weekend. :tits:
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<sigh>