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Title: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on March 10, 2014, 04:10:17 PM
Anyone watching this abominable sacrilege?

Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 10, 2014, 04:14:21 PM
Anyone watching this abominable sacrilege?


I DVR it, not good?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on March 10, 2014, 04:37:27 PM

I DVR it, not good?
It was awesome.

I figured that's how it would be received here since Neil Degrasse Tyson, AKA the anti-Christ, is espousing science, AKA publicly worshiping the Devil.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 10, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
Anyone watching this abominable sacrilege?

DVR'ed it.  Haven't watched it yet.  I never saw the original with Carl Sagan.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 10, 2014, 08:10:37 PM
I watched it.

It was okay.  A lot of people who pre-hyped the shit out of it are claiming it's the best thing ever. 

There's not a lot to it especially if you've read anything about the latest headlines in astrophysics.  Honestly, some of what he said on the show last night was a stretch.  The multi-verse is a hypothesis.  Some support it.  A bunch don't.

I thought it was interesting that he mentioned that believing in a guess or getting lucky by having your guess be right was not science because science requires testing that leads to a consistent conclusion.  Then he says that there are an infinite amount of universes in bubbles in some kind of universe ocean. 

I hope the next few are better and better focused.  If not, I doubt I'll finish the series. 
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 10, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
I thought it was interesting that he mentioned that believing in a guess or getting lucky by having your guess be right was not science because science requires testing that leads to a consistent conclusion.  Then he says that there are an infinite amount of universes in bubbles in some kind of universe ocean.

To be fair, the multi-verse segment of the show was introduced with the phrase "Many of us suspect that all of this . . . is but one tiny bubble in an infinite ocean of other universes."
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 10, 2014, 09:34:40 PM
To be fair, the multi-verse segment of the show was introduced with the phrase "Many of us suspect that all of this . . . is but one tiny bubble in an infinite ocean of other universes."

Meh.  The delivery was definite "this is truth."  He politicked it well, but it was the apex of a series of jaw-dropping observations about the universe.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Saniflush on March 11, 2014, 06:59:00 AM
It was awesome.

I figured that's how it would be received here since Neil Degrasse Tyson, AKA the anti-Christ, is espousing science, AKA publicly worshiping the Devil.

Fuck him.  He killed Pluto.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PUNcwtFtPgw/UPa617XdfSI/AAAAAAAAD6o/Gk9VdQl83s8/s1600/Nova+The+Pluto+Files.jpg)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: CCTAU on March 11, 2014, 09:32:30 AM
It was awesome.

I figured that's how it would be received here since Neil Degrasse Tyson, AKA the anti-Christ, is espousing science, AKA publicly worshiping the Devil.

Never heard of the guy. I don't get my information from Stewart, Colbert,or Maher.


But it is kinda funny he says that that essentially evolution has not been proven...
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 11, 2014, 09:58:42 AM
I also think it's funny that Chads first two posts were totally unprovoked - but damn them evil Christians!

Dogmatic? Strawman? Check


http://buzzpo.com/are-conservatives-and-christians-anti-science/ (http://buzzpo.com/are-conservatives-and-christians-anti-science/)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: CCTAU on March 11, 2014, 10:45:40 AM
I also think it's funny that Chads first two posts were totally unprovoked - but damn them evil Christians!

Dogmatic? Strawman? Check


http://buzzpo.com/are-conservatives-and-christians-anti-science/ (http://buzzpo.com/are-conservatives-and-christians-anti-science/)

He is making his own little documentary, "The Wood Behind The Science"!
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Godfather on March 11, 2014, 11:01:04 AM
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!!

Everyone knows Adam rode dinosaurs.

(http://www.tigersx.com/images/adam_dinosaur.jpg)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: CCTAU on March 11, 2014, 11:38:40 AM
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!!

Everyone knows Adam rode dinosaurs.

(http://www.tigersx.com/images/adam_dinosaur.jpg)

Where is Steve?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on March 11, 2014, 01:05:30 PM
I don't think you guys will disagree with this, but you've surprised me before.

Quote
Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson, director of the Hayden Planetarium, is the host of "Cosmos," the rebooted version of Carl Sagan's classic science show. "Cosmos" debuted Sunday on Fox, and Tyson joined the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC to discuss its return, as well why the Bible shouldn't be used as a textbook.

Rather than painting science and religion as diametrically opposed to each other, Tyson said that there are plenty of scientists who believe in God. “The issue there is not religion versus non-religion or religion versus science, the issue there is ideas that are different versus dogma," he observed.

He continued, “If you start using your scripture, your religious text as a source of your science, that’s where you run into problems, and there is no example of someone reading their scripture and saying ‘I have a prediction about the world that no one knows yet because this gave me insight.’”

“Enlightened religious people know this, and don’t try to use the Bible as a textbook,” he concluded.

Listen to the whole interview here -- his comments about religion start at the 10:59 mark:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/neil-degrasse-tyson-bible_n_4940980.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/neil-degrasse-tyson-bible_n_4940980.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 11, 2014, 04:04:24 PM
I don't think you guys will disagree with this, but you've surprised me before.
ummmm I think some of what I read in that is exactly what I've tried to tell you before. Some things are not mutually exclusive. Not every Christian is a bible thumping, logic out the window, holy roller.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 11, 2014, 06:01:40 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/a69VzlsvTZxq8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on March 17, 2014, 09:44:10 PM
Anyone see this week's episode?

The topic was evolution. It did a pretty good job of explaining some things people on this forum take issue with.

I highly, highly, highly recommend, especially if you don't believe in evolution.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 17, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
Anyone see this week's episode?

The topic was evolution. It did a pretty good job of explaining some things people on this forum take issue with.

I highly, highly, highly recommend, especially if you don't believe in evolution.

I caught some of it. Didn't really offend me. I guess I'm one of the few that think they can co exist. Call me a dreamer.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUJarhead on March 17, 2014, 10:53:20 PM
I caught some of it. Didn't really offend me. I guess I'm one of the few that think they can co exist. Call me a dreamer.

I'm right there with you.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Saniflush on March 18, 2014, 07:01:59 AM
I'm right there with you.

You fucking dreamer.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 18, 2014, 08:22:49 AM
Anyone see this week's episode?

The topic was evolution. It did a pretty good job of explaining some things people on this forum take issue with.

I highly, highly, highly recommend, especially if you don't believe in evolution.


Watched it last night, pretty good program about what they believe and not trashing the other side of the coin.


I have my beliefs but I question a lot of things along the lines of religion.


My sister is a bible thumper and we have this discussion every now and then and my two questions to her pretty much always shuts her up.

1. Man wrote the bible and man is imperfect.
2. Where are the dinosaurs in the bible, we know they existed cause we got the bones?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: CCTAU on March 18, 2014, 08:32:51 AM

Watched it last night, pretty good program about what they believe and not trashing the other side of the coin.


I have my beliefs but I question a lot of things along the lines of religion.


My sister is a bible thumper and we have this discussion every now and then and my two questions to her pretty much always shuts her up.

1. Man wrote the bible and man is imperfect.
2. Where are the dinosaurs in the bible, we know they existed cause we got the bones?

They are referred to as behemoths.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 18, 2014, 09:46:25 AM
You fucking dreamer.

No. Call me that. Not him.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Saniflush on March 18, 2014, 11:03:31 AM
My sister is a bible thumper and we have this discussion every now and then and my two questions to her pretty much always shuts her up.

1. Man wrote the bible and man is imperfect.
2. Where are the dinosaurs in the bible, we know they existed cause we got the bones?

Send this to her...picture proof.

(http://cdn.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/Jesus-and-dinosaur-e1299096274567-634x865.jpg)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 18, 2014, 11:22:03 AM

Watched it last night, pretty good program about what they believe and not trashing the other side of the coin.


I have my beliefs but I question a lot of things along the lines of religion.


My sister is a bible thumper and we have this discussion every now and then and my two questions to her pretty much always shuts her up.

1. Man wrote the bible and man is imperfect.
2. Where are the dinosaurs in the bible, we know they existed cause we got the bones?

Just to play devils advocate here a bit....

Man laid down what he thinks are the concepts of science. But man is imperfect.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 18, 2014, 11:58:21 AM
Just to play devils advocate here a bit....

Man laid down what he thinks are the concepts of science. But man is imperfect.


Sounds like Mrs. Dallas but then look what she has to deal with.


And I believe science to be imperfect and for the most part (take away political agendas) most people in science believe parts of their studies are imperfect and continue to try and prove other wise. 


I honestly have no idea who or what is right. We will all one day find out. I think each side could pick apart the other side as they see the facts.

Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Kaos on March 18, 2014, 01:30:27 PM
I really don't think Carlton knows anything about science so I won't be watching this devil show.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ucPCZ9ugqFk/T41qsjp4JgI/AAAAAAAAASE/_O0JHikhqwE/s1600/alfonso.jpg)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on March 18, 2014, 01:57:33 PM
I really don't think Carlton knows anything about science so I won't be watching this devil show.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ucPCZ9ugqFk/T41qsjp4JgI/AAAAAAAAASE/_O0JHikhqwE/s1600/alfonso.jpg)
You really do think "they all look alike", don't you?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: CCTAU on March 18, 2014, 01:58:59 PM
You really do think "they all look alike", don't you?

Who? Lawyers?

 
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 18, 2014, 02:12:02 PM
http://youtu.be/Lxqa2Haf8lo (http://youtu.be/Lxqa2Haf8lo)
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 18, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
You really do think "they all look alike", don't you?

What do you mean "you people"?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: Kaos on March 18, 2014, 04:01:31 PM
You really do think "they all look alike", don't you?

(http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/neil-degrasse-tyson-cosmos-fox.jpg)

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/v5cache/TBS/Images/Dynamic/i38/freshprince24_337x233_081720071243.jpg)

When I skimmed past the ads for the show, that's who I thought it was, yes.  I knew it wasn't Webster because he didn't have a moustache or Arnold because he's dead. 
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on March 19, 2014, 05:34:24 PM

Watched it last night, pretty good program about what they believe and not trashing the other side of the coin.


I have my beliefs but I question a lot of things along the lines of religion.


My sister is a bible thumper and we have this discussion every now and then and my two questions to her pretty much always shuts her up.

1. Man wrote the bible and man is imperfect.
2. Where are the dinosaurs in the bible, we know they existed cause we got the bones?

In Job, which according to archaeologist was probably the first book of the Bible recorded.

15 “Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
In Job, which according to archaeologist was probably the first book of the Bible recorded.

15 “Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
So you believe dinosaurs and humans coexisted?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: WiregrassTiger on March 19, 2014, 09:56:23 PM
So you believe dinosaurs and humans coexisted?
Land of the Lost. Documentary series from the 1970's. Watch it. You may learn something. I have the lunch box cuz I lived it.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: GH2001 on March 19, 2014, 10:14:12 PM
So you believe dinosaurs and humans coexisted?

You obviously missed Jurassic Park. Shit was epic but in the end, humans won that bitch.
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on June 01, 2014, 09:54:02 PM
Anyone see tonight's episode?
Title: Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Post by: AUChizad on June 02, 2014, 10:20:51 AM
http://www.cosmosontv.com/watch/270803523723 (http://www.cosmosontv.com/watch/270803523723)