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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on August 12, 2013, 11:46:54 AM
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Orlando Bloom?
According to the Daily Express, Orlando is frontrunner to land the role of Batman, with fellow British actor Henry Cavill continuing in his role as Superman for the highly-anticipated collaborative film.
The publication quotes a 'senior source' at Warner Bros as saying: 'Orlando looks odds-on to get the part even before our first casting call.
'He would be perfect to play off Henry and I think US audiences would be happy with two Brits as the joint male lead.'
And referring to the fact that British actor Andrew Garfield is currently playing Spider-Man, the paper also quoted media analyst Mike Raia as saying: 'It will mean for the first time ever, Brits will be in the three prime roles of Batman, Superman and Spider-Man.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2389791/Orlando-Bloom-heads-trendy-trainers-claimed-hes-frontrunner-land-role-Batman.html#ixzz2blpFXFJ5
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Orlando Bloom?
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Alright. Batman with a bandana and a patch! Argghhh!
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Was Michael Cera unavailable?
Did Crispin Glover have something else to do?
Did Robert Pattinson not return their calls?
Was Will Poulter wrapped up in filming We're The Millers 2?
Why did Bill Hader turn it down?
Was Carlton from Fresh Prince on a nostalgia tour?
What awful casting.
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Was Carlton from Fresh Prince on a nostalgia tour?
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I've seen this mentioned elsewhere, but what would you all think about a black Batman? Specifically Idris Elba for those that have seen him act.
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The following is the complete list of people who will rejoice if this news turns out to be true.
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I've seen this mentioned elsewhere, but what would you all think about a black Batman? Specifically Idris Elba for those that have seen him act.
No. No. No. No. No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Rather have John Travolta or Nic Cage.
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I've seen this mentioned elsewhere, but what would you all think about a black Batman? Specifically Idris Elba for those that have seen him act.
Because it worked so well for the Jim West character!
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Because it worked so well for the Jim West character!
Stand up be recognized!
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I've seen this mentioned elsewhere, but what would you all think about a black Batman? Specifically Idris Elba for those that have seen him act.
He already played a Norse God superhero, so why not.
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For the record, things like this do irk me. Not for any other reason than I'm a stickler for canon. I'm equally pissed that apparently the new Ninja Turtles movie cast a white dude (William Fichter) as Shredder. Instead of Oroku Saki, he will be Eric Sachs. WHY fuck with something like?
Also, in the new X-Men movies, Peter Dinklage is playing Bolivar Trask.
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He would be an EXCELLENT Puck. Not so much Trask.
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Interestingly enough, in the original X-Men trilogy, Trask was miscast as well, by a black actor (Bill Duke).
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You're ghostin' us, motherfucker. I don't care who you are back in the world, you give away our position one more time, I'll bleed ya, real quiet. Leave ya here. Got that?
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You're ghostin' us, motherfucker. I don't care who you are back in the world, you give away our position one more time, I'll bleed ya, real quiet. Leave ya here. Got that?
I'm gonna have me some fun....I'm gonna have me some fun
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Why not keep the same person? I don't know, just a thought.
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Why not keep the same person? I don't know, just a thought.
I'm guessing it's because of $$$,$$$,$$$.¢¢
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Nope.
Ben Affleck.
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Nope.
Ben Affleck.
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Holy bat****.
Can we get a recount on the Orlando Bloom option? Or the Ving Rhames option? Or Billy Dee Willams? Or jay baruchel?
The dude from Kick Ass would be a far better pick than this.
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Nope.
Ben Affleck.
lol whut? Yeah cause he was great in Daredevil.
He was the bomb in Phantoms though.
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Maybe he'll screw Lois Lane in an extremely uncomfortable place.
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Maybe he'll screw Lois Lane in an extremely uncomfortable place.
Like in the back of a Volkswagen?
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Hey Clark, you gotta be wicked smaht to like them apples.
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Once again, I'm going to take the minority position on this. Twitter as a whole lost their shit over this choice as well.
I think Ben Affleck is the perfect Bruce Wayne. Best casting of the role in film history, IMO. The chin alone nails it.
Prior to this, in my opinion, George Clooney was the best cast Wayne, albeit in hands down the worst movie.
Contrarily, Bale was the worst cast Wayne in the best movie(s).
From a physical standpoint, Bruce is supposed to be stocky, and ruggedly handsome with a protruding, dimpled chin. Bale was skinny, clean cut, with kinda-long blondish hair. And don't get me started on his "Batman voice".
And let's not forget how much people bitched about Heath Ledger as the Joker when that was first announced.
All in all, I applaud the choice. Even if I'm on an island.
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You're on an island...and a tiny one at that.
Maybe you're right though. I think it's just really fun to bust on him.
You add in the way he fucking butchered Daredevil and I just don't have a lot of hope.
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Once again, I'm going to take the minority position on this. Twitter as a whole lost their shit over this choice as well.
I think Ben Affleck is the perfect Bruce Wayne. Best casting of the role in film history, IMO. The chin alone nails it.
What the hell does his chin have to do with anything? It's Affleck's demeanor that bothers me. When he's an actor, he carries this silly school boy swagger. He's a great director. He's an obnoxious actor. He's the kid in the back of the classroom you want to punch in the face but don't because the cute girls hang around him - thing is, those cute girls can't stand him either.
Batman should be calm, cool, collected. He should be suave and serious. He shouldn't bob his head when he talks. He shouldn't kick his jaw out like a jock-itched football player.
When Affleck speaks, he speaks as if everyone in the world should bow down to his words. That's not Batman. Batman is quiet. He's an introvert. He gets shit done and does it from the blackness of a cave.
I can't see any evidence that Affleck can pull this off.
Prior to this, in my opinion, George Clooney was the best cast Wayne, albeit in hands down the worst movie.
Contrarily, Bale was the worst cast Wayne in the best movie(s).
WHUT. Clooney was awful as Batman. He embodied everything Batman was not. He was ten times more of the obnoxious popular high school student that Affleck could be.
Bale was the best Wayne but an average Batman. There's no way you can explain Bale not being the quintessential billionaire bachelor with a dark secret.
From a physical standpoint, Bruce is supposed to be stocky, and ruggedly handsome with a protruding, dimpled chin. Bale was skinny, clean cut, with kinda-long blondish hair. And don't get me started on his "Batman voice".
Are you even paying attention to the movies? Bale doesn't have blond hair.
Sure Affleck may have the head shape for Batman. But so do a lot of actors.
And let's not forget how much people bitched about Heath Ledger as the Joker when that was first announced.
All in all, I applaud the choice. Even if I'm on an island.
And Ledger had to lock himself in a motel for months to come up with his portrayal of the Joker. And while I loved his performance, it wasn't classic Joker. You're praising Affleck for his ability to possibly portray Batman the way he was originally intended in the comics, yet you're using Ledger's performance as evidence that it's possible?
Also, Ledger died. Do we really want to wish that upon Affleck?
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Also, Ledger died. Do we really want to wish that upon Affleck?
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You add in the way he fucking butchered Daredevil and I just don't have a lot of hope.
Exactly what I was thinking. He fucked up my second favorite comic hero, and now, he's going to fuck up my first favorite.
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Affleck being Batman can only mean one thing...
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What the hell does his chin have to do with anything?
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It's Affleck's demeanor that bothers me. When he's an actor, he carries this silly school boy swagger. He's a great director. He's an obnoxious actor. He's the kid in the back of the classroom you want to punch in the face but don't because the cute girls hang around him - thing is, those cute girls can't stand him either.
Batman should be calm, cool, collected. He should be suave and serious. He shouldn't bob his head when he talks. He shouldn't kick his jaw out like a jock-itched football player.
Yes, he should. Everything else I don't see. Also, he is an actor you know. If the role calls for him to be as brooding as he is in real life, as opposed to some quirky characters he may have played, I'm pretty sure he can pull it off.
WHUT. Clooney was awful as Batman. He embodied everything Batman was not. He was ten times more of the obnoxious popular high school student that Affleck could be.
It sounds like you have it in for the pretty boys. Again, the ruggedly handsome look is a requirement for Wayne, not a strike against him. He's a millionaire playboy, not some goth kid. There's no denying Clooney was in the worst movie, as I said, but as for the casting on its face, he most closely resembled Bruce Wayne.
Bale was the best Wayne but an average Batman. There's no way you can explain Bale not being the quintessential billionaire bachelor with a dark secret.
Just didn't have the look. Agree his Wayne was better than his Batman, but I would slide the scale way down to average Wayne, abysmal Batman.
Are you even paying attention to the movies? Bale doesn't have blond hair.
I said blond-ish. It's certainly not the clean cut short black hair that Bruce Wayne has always had.
Sure Affleck may have the head shape for Batman. But so do a lot of actors.
None so much as Affleck.
And Ledger had to lock himself in a motel for months to come up with his portrayal of the Joker. And while I loved his performance, it wasn't classic Joker. You're praising Affleck for his ability to possibly portray Batman the way he was originally intended in the comics, yet you're using Ledger's performance as evidence that it's possible?
I'm saying, your argument that we can't have the loveable guy from Jersey Girl playing Batman is like bitching about the guy from Brokeback Mountain & Ten Things I Hate About You. They're actors. Don't pigeonhole them.
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....and while we are on the subject if you liked the Judge Dredd comics that were all dark, then you should check out "Dredd". It is true to the comic and not that 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag that Stallone made in the 80's.
I think it just went up on Netflix streaming.
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....and while we are on the subject if you liked the Judge Dredd comics that were all dark, then you should check out "Dredd". It is true to the comic and not that 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag that Stallone made in the 80's.
I think it just went up on Netflix streaming.
Is it streaming? I've really been wanting to see it.
But only if the actors all have pronounced chins.
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I never thought of Michael Keaton as a stud or hero material - especially after Mr. Mom - but holy smoking hot in a dark and brooding way, Batman!! He really pulled it off, and he is not classically handsome or tall or built or n possession of a chin that would cut paper. But he "got it" - the brooding, the sadness, the thirst for revenge, and I for one loved him as Batman. No one since has really worked for me. I liked Clooney only because he is hot as hell and I would watch a movie of him reading the phone book.
I am not enthusiastic about Affleck, and doubt he can pull it off, but am willing to reserve judgment. His problem is this: Henry Cavil makes a great Clark Kent/Superman, and people already like him, so Affleck will really have to try harder now than he would have in a Batman only movie.
I am just thankful they didn't cast Tom "The Fuckstick That Completely Ruined Jack Reacher" Cruise...
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Is it streaming?
You should read closer. Your chin must have gotten in the way.
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People just as suited to play Batman:
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Needs a little hair dye...
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This one even has a bit of a dimple in that manly chin....
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He even has two chins....
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Is it streaming? I've really been wanting to see it.
But only if the actors all have pronounced chins.
I saw it. Liked it. Although, basically it was one 2 hour scene.
AND I WAS NOT PLEASED WITH THE CHIN QUALITY OF THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED DREDD.
Seriously, the only comic book character requiring more chin than Batman is Dredd.
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Karl Urban failed.
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With Stallone, once again, the movie was shit, but the casting was spot on.
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I never thought of Michael Keaton as a stud or hero material - especially after Mr. Mom - but holy smoking hot in a dark and brooding way, Batman!! He really pulled it off, and he is not classically handsome or tall or built or n possession of a chin that would cut paper. But he "got it" - the brooding, the sadness, the thirst for revenge, and I for one loved him as Batman. No one since has really worked for me. I liked Clooney only because he is hot as hell and I would watch a movie of him reading the phone book.
I am not enthusiastic about Affleck, and doubt he can pull it off, but am willing to reserve judgment. His problem is this: Henry Cavil makes a great Clark Kent/Superman, and people already like him, so Affleck will really have to try harder now than he would have in a Batman only movie.
I am just thankful they didn't cast Tom "The Fuckstick That Completely Ruined Jack Reacher" Cruise...
Agree Keaton was probably the second best cast so far, and probably did the best job overall.
Kilmer's the only one that hasn't been discussed yet. He was about on par with Bale, albeit, again, in a much shittier movie.
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Marvel comics are better.
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Marvel comics are better.
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Marvel comics are better.
Said no one but you, ever.
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Agree Keaton was probably the second best cast so far, and probably did the best job overall.
Kilmer's the only one that hasn't been discussed yet. He was about on par with Bale, albeit, again, in a much shittier movie.
I normally agree with most of your movie thoughts, but you have done lost your friggin mind.
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I normally agree with most of your movie thoughts, but you have done lost your friggin mind.
Which part specifically?
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Which part specifically?
This whole thread part, and your opinions on the past, present, and future Batman.
I don't even mind Affleck, but not as fucking Batman.
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This whole thread part, and your opinions on the past, present, and future Batman.
I don't even mind Affleck, but not as fucking Batman.
I think people have difficulty differentiating between the casting, the performance, and the script, which the actor has no control over.
Here's my rankings, which vary greatly based on these three categories. Excluding Affleck, since we only know one part of the equation so far.
| Casting | Performance | Material | Overall |
| Clooney | Keaton | Bale | Keaton |
| Keaton | Bale | Keaton | Bale |
| Kilmer | Kilmer | Kilmer | Clooney |
| Bale | Clooney | Clooney | Kilmer |
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All a matter of taste. Just like the 158 different actors who have played James Bond. I know several of you obviously have strong opinions about teh Batmanz and who should play him. I don't because like most movies that have a hundred sequels, I lose interest. Having a new Batman every time is like reinventing him with each new movie. Will I like him? Will he be believable as Batman. Michael Keaton as Batman? Just too much of a stretch for me to find him believable after Mr. Mom and Beetlejuice etc.
Like em' or hate em'....Toby Maguire is Peter Parker....Robert Downey, Jr. is Tony Stark....Johnny Depp is Capt. Jack Sparrow....Bill Fagerbakke is the voice of Patrick Star. Just the way it is.
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All a matter of taste. Just like the 158 different actors who have played James Bond. I know several of you obviously have strong opinions about teh Batmanz and who should play him. I don't because like most movies that have a hundred sequels, I lose interest. Having a new Batman every time is like reinventing him with each new movie. Will I like him? Will he be believable as Batman. Michael Keaton as Batman? Just too much of a stretch for me to find him believable after Mr. Mom and Beetlejuice etc.
Like em' or hate em'....Toby Maguire is Peter Parker....Robert Downey, Jr. is Tony Stark....Johnny Depp is Capt. Jack Sparrow....Bill Fagerbakke is the voice of Patrick Star. Just the way it is.
Toby Maguire is not Peter Parker. He was awful.
Downey Jr was a great Stark.
And as for James Bond, that's a great example. James Bond is a particular character with specific traits. Would you all be ok with Gerald Butler being the next James Bond? He has ZERO qualities to do so. Nothing gives you the idea that Gerald Butler would make a good James Bond.
This is like the Jake Holland thread, and Chizad is Prowler. Sure Jake Holland has the physical features. 6+ feet. 240 pounds. Curly Jew hair. And sure if he gets the right script in front of him, it could be okay.
But there's no reason to count on it.
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Toby Maguire is not Peter Parker. He was awful.
Downey Jr was a great Stark.
And as for James Bond, that's a great example. James Bond is a particular character with specific traits. Would you all be ok with Gerald Butler being the next James Bond? He has ZERO qualities to do so. Nothing gives you the idea that Gerald Butler would make a good James Bond.
This is like the Jake Holland thread, and Chizad is Prowler. Sure Jake Holland has the physical features. 6+ feet. 240 pounds. Curly Jew hair. And sure if he gets the right script in front of him, it could be okay.
But there's no reason to count on it.
I'd like to remind you that I'm also on the unpopular end of that argument as well.
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Once again, I'm going to take the minority position on this. Twitter as a whole lost their shoot over this choice as well.
I think Ben Affleck is the perfect Bruce Wayne. Best casting of the role in film history, IMO. The chin alone nails it.
Prior to this, in my opinion, George Clooney was the best cast Wayne, albeit in hands down the worst movie.
Contrarily, Bale was the worst cast Wayne in the best movie(s).
From a physical standpoint, Bruce is supposed to be stocky, and ruggedly handsome with a protruding, dimpled chin. Bale was skinny, clean cut, with kinda-long blondish hair. And don't get me started on his "Batman voice".
And let's not forget how much people bitched about Heath Ledger as the Joker when that was first announced.
All in all, I applaud the choice. Even if I'm on an island.
I've sworn off profanity, but this pushed me to the edge.
You've lost your f!@($%#!@&* mind.
I love three things in the world beyond family, God and country.
1) Auburn
2) KISS
3) Batman
I've got more Batman comics than probably anybody you know. Not only do I have them (dating back to the early 50s) but I've also read them. I've read the graphic novels. I've read the short term comic series. I've read Detective, Batman, Legends of the Dark Knight, Catwoman, Robin, Azarel, Harley Q, Shadow of the Bat, Nightwing and a bunch I can't even remember.
I WAS the Joker at the 1989 premiere and battled a drunk Batman who parachuted in, missed his landing and bounced off the roof of a car in the parking lot of the theater. Yes, I dyed my hair, painted my face and bought the purple and green wardrobe to pull that off. I signed hundreds of "Joker" autographs.
I've found a reason to enjoy almost every incarnation of The Bat. I appreciate the funny/campy Adam West version. I liked the old man Frank Miller devised. I liked the image Dennis O'Neill crafted. I liked Alan Moore's Batman from Killing Joke.
I appreciated the various cartoon versions and was particularly impressed with Mask of the Phantasm, even if it did have Luke Skywalker as Joker.
I found something to like in almost all the movie versions (with the exception of the one that had Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey in it, I pretend that didn't exist). I don't think the silly Tim Burton films hold up over time (partially because he's a one-note hack). And while I think Batman was probably the best role Michael Keaton has played in his career -- Beetlejuice excepted -- he didn't have the requiste physicality to completely own the role. It was about the same as having Bill Murray take the role at the time.
I wasn't a huge fan of Bale's effort, but he brought something to the character.
Ben Affleck knows one range: cream-of-wheat bland smarm.
Damon, I'd be fine with. I'd have accepted Denzel 15 years ago.
But this? :cage:
As a long-time Bat-fan, this is the one of the worst possible casting choices they could have made. It's the equivalent of hiring Nicholas Cage as Indiana Jones. Or John Travolta as Spock.
It's trashing the character.
He sucks. Now if he'd been hired to help direct the film? Yeah, that I'd be happy with.
Thanks for the punch in the nuts, Zack Snyder.
Here's a list of people I would have chosen over Bland Ben.
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Real list?
Olyphant. Lacks the physicality, but could bulk up.
Kit Harrington I think would end up being a very good fit.
The guy who plays DiNozzo on NCIS would be a late option. Needs a little beef and would have to tone down the smarm
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Here's a better choice.
Dale DaBone
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#winning
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This is like the Jake Holland thread, and Chizad is Prowler. Sure Jake Holland has the physical features. 6+ feet. 240 pounds. Curly Jew hair. And sure if he gets the right script in front of him, it could be okay.
You know? It is like that. And probably why I take the contrarian opinion.
I'm naturally averse to people being unwaveringly positive that something's going to be a failure without any concrete reason to believe it. Besides the fact that everyone says it, so it must be true. Pessimistic cynicism. Zero willingness to give the benefit of the doubt. guilty until proven inncemt. It annoys me.
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You know? It is like that. And probably why I take the contrarian opinion.
I'm naturally averse to people being unwaveringly positive that something's going to be a failure without any concrete reason to believe it. Besides the fact that everyone says it, so it must be true. Pessimistic cynicism. Zero willingness to give the benefit of the doubt. guilty until proven inncemt. It annoys me.
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Knee-jerk reactionary blind rage is giving way to my rational reserved, correct point of view slowly. I'll give the rest of you time as well.
http://nerdcoremovement.com/judge-slowly-top-five-reasons-ben-affleck-can-pull-off-batman-and-do-it-well/
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JUDGE SLOWLY: TOP FIVE REASONS BEN AFFLECK CAN PULL OFF BATMAN (AND DO IT WELL)
POSTED BY NERDCOREMOVEMENT
BEN AFFLECK IS GOING TO PLAY BATMAN BUT THERE ARE FIVE REALLY GOOD REASONS WHY HE CAN PULL OFF THE ROLE AND DO IT JUSTICE…
By Damon Martin — Editor/Lead Writer
Follow on Twitter @DamonMartin
The entire internet seemingly exploded on Thursday with the news that Ben Affleck was cast as Batman in the upcoming Man of Steel sequel due to begin filming next year for a July 2015 release.
While there has been some positive reaction to the news, the majority of fans have let out a collective groan about the casting choice of director Zach Snyder and those behind the franchise that could be putting Affleck under the cape and cowl for the next decade depending on how successful the upcoming film ends up, and with other sequels and possible team-up films happening down the line.
There were literally dozens of articles (including one on this site) speculating on who could end up in the role of Batman. Everyone from Josh Brolin to Ryan Gosling was potentially on the list, with just about everyone begging for the return of Christian Bale and no one targeting Affleck for the role. As a matter of fact, there were virtually zero rumors that Affleck was even in the running for the part—proof once again that you can’t believe everything you hear until the studio tells you for sure it’s true.
Now, I’m not going to deny the fact that I am a Ben Affleck fan.
From his days where he served as bad-sock-wearing loyal best friend Chucky in Good Will Hunting to his role as lesbian loverman Holden McNeil in Chasing Amy to a Wall Street shark in Boiler Room—Affleck had many memorable movie moments early in his career. Even in some of the darker days (Gigli) he still managed to pull off some pretty great acting in films like Jersey Girl (don’t let the critics fool you, if you delete Jennifer Lopez from existence this isn’t a bad movie), and came back stronger than ever with films like The Town and Argo.
Today, I’m going to give you five good reasons why Affleck can pull off Batman on the big screen, and why you should judge slowly and give him a chance before reducing him to Brandon Routh status.
1. YES, AFFLECK HAS DONE A SUPERHERO FILM BEFORE. YES, IT WAS BAD. EVEN HE KNOWS THAT
The minute the casting news was released about Affleck playing Batman, the first words out of just about everybody’s mouths was DAREDEVIL.
It’s true, Affleck played blind Hell’s Kitchen lawyer Matt Murdock, and his night time vigilante hero Daredevil in the awful film version of the character in the 2003 release by director and writer Mark Steven Johnson. But let’s not pretend like there weren’t a thousand other things wrong with that movie beyond Affleck, and when the walls are crumbling down around you, it’s hard not to get caught in the wreckage.
The script was terribly written—it tried to pack 30 years of Daredevil history into one movie. Imagine if Daredevil had been made only focusing on Matt’s battle against Bullseye, while possibly introducing the character of Elektra but going no further. Imagine if the filmmakers had just adapted one famous Daredevil story from Frank Miller or even the great series written by Affleck’s friend Kevin Smith as a template for how the story should unfold. Instead, Johnson tried to fold every villain, and every story for Daredevil into one, trash compacted version of the film. Also lest we forget, Johnson is the same guy who wrote and directed Daredevil, knew it was bad, read all the reviews, and still managed to turn around and write Elektra, which was possibly even worse.
Affleck grew up a fan of Daredevil and even wrote the intro to Smith’s trade paperback story about the character for a Marvel book released in 1999. Maybe he got too attached to a character he loved, or maybe he took the role not realizing just how bad the script and story were being portrayed, and by the time he put on the leather suit, it was already too late.
Looking back at the film years after its release, Affleck is honest enough to know the movie was just doomed to fail (via MTV).
“I think we missed a lot in that movie. I think yeah before they really figured out how to do them right, yeah. Now, they’ve become eight movies, and they’ve been embraced in a way that they do, although they made some good ones, now they dedicate these resources and focus towards them. Audiences have come and demand a level of quality from them, that is no less than the very best. It was a drag because I did love Daredevil as a kid.â€
As a character, Daredevil might be Marvel’s answer to Batman in terms of being a hero that’s damaged, dark and gritty, and left in the right hands it could have been The Dark Knight. Instead it was more Batman & Robin.
2. AFFLECK HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO DO A SUPERHERO FILM…IF IT WAS DONE RIGHT
If you ever listen to Kevin Smith, who was around Affleck in his early days, he tells many stories about how his old friend was a big comic book fan, and grew up loving the superhero genre. Unlike many actors currently pulling big gigs in Hollywood, not even close to being tall enough to dunk a basketball, Affleck stands an imposing 6’4″, which will bode well for him stacking up against Henry Cavill, who plays Superman, and stands 6’1″ tall.
Following the debacle that was Daredevil, Affleck vowed to never do another superhero flick again, but as the years passed and his affection for the genre returned, he changed his mind—only if the right people were involved to make the movie happen.
“I would love to do one, if it was the right one and if I thought I could do it well,†Affleck said about doing a superhero movie during promotion for his Oscar winning film Argo.
The good part about Affleck stepping in this time is director Zach Snyder not only has Christopher Nolan watching over him like a big brother should, but he also has experience dealing with untouchable material and doing it justice on the big screen. Snyder’s adaptation of The Watchmen remains one of the best superhero films of all time, and he stayed very true to the source material outside of one big leap that he took with the ending, that arguably was as good as the original one written by Alan Moore.
While Snyder and script writer David S. Goyer made some fans (like Ralph Garman) lose their minds with the ending of Man of Steel, overall the film worked in a way that the last few Superman adaptations did not, and casting a relative unknown like Cavill in the lead role while risky early, paid of big time late. Trust in the fact that Snyder knows how big this movie will be, and he should treat it as such. In turn, Affleck will get the most out of his performance, and redeem himself for whatever part he had in Daredevil.
3. AFFLECK HAS JOSS WHEDON ON HIS SIDE
Listen say what you will about celebrity endorsements, but when it comes to the geek genre of film and TV, there’s probably no one more respected that writer/director Joss Whedon. He’s written countless masterpieces including Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, not to mention his run on quite a few comic book series like Astonishing X-Men. Whedon is also the man responsible for pulling off the impossible and making a team movie like The Avengers not only rake in money like a broken ATM just spitting out cash, but the film was hailed as a critical success as well (which rarely happens in the superhero genre).
On Friday, Whedon gave Affleck a rousing approval for taking the part of Batman, and he believes the California native has the chops to bring gravitas to the role and make it great.
@josswhedon
Affleck'll crush it. He's got the chops, he's got the chin -- just needs the material. Affleck & Cavill toe to toe -- I'm in.
4. AFFLECK IS ALMOST ALWAYS GREAT WHEN HE DOESN’T HAVE TO CARRY THE FILM
People seem to be forgetting that while Affleck will be playing Batman, he’s still taking part in a Superman sequel. To date, we have no idea how big or small the role of Batman will be in Man of Steel 2, we just know he’s going to be there. It’s doubtful, however, that Snyder and the producers behind the movie are going to somehow eliminate Superman from being the central character. Part of the issue of this entire scenario does fall on Snyder’s shoulders because at Comic Con when he made the announcement about the film, he quoted a line from the classic Frank Miller epic The Dark Knight Returns, which was a Batman book that also featured Superman and not the other way around.
I want you to remember, Clark. In all the years to come. In all your most private moments. I want you to remember my hand at your throat. I want you to remember the one man who beat you.
Snyder quickly killed rumors that he would be turning The Dark Knight Returns into Man of Steel 2, but the line was a perfect segue into announcing that Batman would appear in the next Superman movie. The big picture being overlooked currently with the Affleck announcement is the fact that he’s not the lead in the upcoming movie. If anything he’s sharing the space with Cavill, or potentially playing the second lead in the movie behind Cavill.
Now this is where the Affleck playing Batman story takes a huge turn towards the positive.
For every Paycheck and Reindeer Games that Affleck has played in and been the lead role, he really shines when the spotlight is not solely on him. Take a look for instance at the 2010 film The Town, which Affleck was the star and also directed, but did not overshadow the entire cast of the movie. Jeremy Renner, who played his best friend, shouldered a big brunt of the acting chops necessary to pull off The Town, along with a nice save from Jon Hamm as well.
http://youtu.be/L5EV-5JnsxQ
The same can be said for Affleck’s role in Argo. Now again, he was the lead, and he did have the biggest role in the film, but the movie was an ensemble cast with powerful performances by everyone involved including Bryan Cranston, Alan Arkin and John Goodman. Affleck was the lead, but he was more like Paul McCartney in the Beatles—certainly he was the frontman, and ultra talented, but everyone had their eyes on John Lennon most of the time when it came to the real brass behind the band. It’s a repeat for Affleck’s part in Chasing Amy, where again he was the lead, his name was first on the marquee and he was definitely Batman in the movie, but he had a fantastic Robin played by Jason Lee
Going back further to the afore mentioned role Affleck took in the little talked about Wall Street swindle caper film Boiler Room, he stole the show with only two scenes where he shouted and screamed at a room full of stock brokers about what it meant to be filthy rich.
http://youtu.be/UqDtf1aw818
Affleck has the chops to pull off any role, and when the entire bottom line isn’t based on his success or failure, he comes out looking like gold. Add to that, as Affleck has gotten older and wiser, his choices in films have gotten much pickier. He’s turned into more of a director than an actor, and more of an activist than a money seeking Hollywood-ite just looking to cash in on a big role. In other words, Affleck took this role because he wanted it, the script was good, and he’s got plenty of support around to make sure this thing goes perfectly.
5. HAVEN’T WE HEARD THESE COMPLAINTS BEFORE?
Listen, I’m not an expert when it comes to Hollywood casting calls, but one thing I know very well is the audience reaction to any kind of movie announcement—and let’s just say it’s rarely positive.
Facts are facts—people love to complain and everybody has a better choice than the one actor or actress that gets chosen for a role, particularly superhero films where the legions of fans somehow always know better than those casting the movie.
There’s no bigger case to prove this than the announcement in 2006 that Christopher Noland cast Heath Ledger as The Joker in his upcoming sequel The Dark Knight. Fans around the world freaked when Ledger was announced, and sites from all over the internet couldn’t wait to tell Nolan how he made such a monumental mistake.
Mark this day, folks: August 3, 2006. That’s the day that Christopher Nolan made his first mistake as the current commander of the Batman franchise. For reasons that don’t quite make sense to me, Nolan — as has been rumored — has officially cast Heath Ledger as The Joker in his upcoming The Dark Knight. (via Pajiba.com)
The article from the above website goes on to quote a poll run by fans at the time of the announcement with 84-percent of them saying Ledger would be either so-so or horrible in his role as The Joker. The site then goes on to tell Nolan how he made a huge mistake casting Ledger over other more obvious choices.
Ledger beats out several other actors who were rumored to be up for the role, including Crispin Glover, Robin Williams, Guy Pearce, Adrien Brody, and the leading contender, Paul Bettany. He would’ve been phenomenal!
Now, I’m not trying to pick on this particular writer, but this is just one of literally dozens of stories from that time period where Ledger was cast as The Joker and nobody seemed happy about it. There’s even a famous photo compiled by GeekTyrant with fans losing their minds over the casting of Ledger, and the comments are down right hilarious when put into the context of how he ended up portraying the part to perfection.
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Even I’m not above pointing my all powerful finger back at myself because I remember when the announcement was made about Ledger portraying the Joker, and I’m sure I uttered many of the same things as the fans in the photos above. I thought ‘how could the kid from 10 Things I Hate About You somehow play the Joker? Are you kidding?’ Thankfully, I was dead wrong.
Even Batman icon Christian Bale, who redefined the role with his portrayal of the caped crusader in three films directed by Christopher Nolan, wasn’t immune to fanboy hate when he was announced as the actor who would take over the role back in 2003. Bale was mostly known for his cult performance in American Psycho, and the science fiction dragon flick Reign of Fire.
Some of the comments back then when Bale was cast included—
“I’m surprised they couldn’t get a more known actor.â€
“NOT AGAIN! Can’t we find someone better for this part?â€
Facts are facts—no one can predict how Affleck will do as Batman anymore than they could have known just how brilliant Heath Ledger pulled off The Joker. If the trailers start being released and Affleck starts sounding like a cheap Christian Bale imitation, then maybe the revolt can begin again, but for now put down the pitchforks and torches and let Snyder and company try to put together a great Man of Steel sequel where we see Superman and Batman together on the big screen for the first time in history.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christopher-rosen/ben-affleck-batman_b_3804940.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
Ben Affleck as Batman: A Reversal of Fortune?
ANALYSIS: Recent industry goodwill toward Affleck has not induced a state of public amnesia about his acting career.
Justin Chang
Senior Film Critic
@JustinCChang
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One prevailing theory of the past awards season is that, having been overlooked for a directing Oscar nomination, Ben Affleck enjoyed a surge of industry goodwill and public indignation on his behalf that ultimately pushed “Argo†into the winner’s circle. General opinion of Affleck has, of course, been steadily on the upswing since 2007, when he helmed a flinty, tough-minded Boston crime drama called “Gone Baby Gone†— his first and still finest achievement as a director — and proved that, however little respect he may have engendered as an actor, he had found his true calling as a filmmaker to be reckoned with.
His next two efforts, “The Town†and “Argo,†fulfilled that promise handsomely, cementing his reputation as a maker of crackerjack suspense thrillers grounded in a strong sense of place. They also revealed him to be, like Clint Eastwood and other thesps-turned-helmers before him, a skillful director of actors (Amy Ryan, Jeremy Renner and Alan Arkin drew Academy Award nominations for their work in “Gone Baby Gone,†“The Town†and “Argo,†respectively). It has been, for Affleck, an altogether astonishing reversal of fortune, the sort of grand comeback story that Hollywood loves but rarely scripts for itself: An industry golden boy, having reached the limits of where his talents could take him via the accepted channels, had dared to reinvent himself, pulling off an improbable career move with a startling degree of success.
At this point, if it had been revealed that Affleck were in talks to direct “Batman vs. Superman,†the news might well have been greeted with a certain measure of optimism, perhaps even modest praise. But yesterday’s revelation that he had been cast as Batman instead is, to put it mildly, another story entirely, one that has elicited little short of blind outrage and perhaps threatened to undo his public favor; there are precious few casting announcements that could inspire thousands of moviegoers to sign Change.org petitions urging a studio to reconsider. (You’d think Lindsay Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor or Ashton Kutcher as Steve Jobs might have pushed our concerned young consumer-activists to launch a protest movement or two, but real-life personalities don’t engender the sort of obsessive protectiveness reserved for comicbook superheroes.)
Industry goodwill does not, it seems, have any bearing on fanboy approval, and the generally high regard for Affleck up until yesterday’s announcement seems predicated on an enthusiastic appreciation for his directing abilities and a mild tolerance at best for his acting work. That he has become a more persuasive presence behind the camera than in front of it seems hard to argue against — we like his daredevil streak, but not his Daredevil — and if his newfound cachet as a filmmaker has led many to forgive the likes of “Gigli†and “Jersey Girl,†it has not exactly obliterated their memory.
Affleck, of course, never stopped acting even as his directing career soared. He gave himself key roles in both “Argo†and “The Town,†and executed them solidly if unmemorably. His recent acting choices have shown a smart, adventurous sense of range, from 2009’s “Extract†and “State of Play†to the recent “To the Wonder.†And he’s clearly ramping up again: The Batman news is only his second major casting of the year, following his attachment to David Fincher’s hotly anticipated “Gone Girl.â€
It’s also worth noting that Affleck has done marvelously subtle work as an actor in recent years, something easy to overlook if your moviegoing diet consists exclusively of cape-and-cowl fare. In 2010 he gave a finely shaded dramatic turn as a high-powered corporate executive brought low by the economic crisis in John Wells’ “The Company Men.†And in Allen-Coulter’s 2006 true-crime story “Hollywoodland,†Affleck delivered perhaps his finest performance to date, as the ill-fated 1950s actor George Reeves — a revelatory change-of-pace role in which he captured the bitter trajectory of a wannabe star gone to seed.
There is a measure of irony in the fact that Affleck did his best acting in the part of a none-too-respected actor, and it’s amusing to consider that the man who showed us the tragic face of TV’s Superman will now star on the bigscreen opposite Superman himself. To speculate prematurely on the outcome at this point, as so many doomsayers have done already, would exceed the limits of professional discretion. But in a spirit of unpopular optimism, I will offer that Ben Affleck has impressed us most as an actor by projecting not gravity but vulnerability, and vulnerability is an essential, often-overlooked quality in any bigscreen superhero. And if the enormity of the public outcry against him is any indication, he may well have succeeded in slipping back into a role he has played better than just about anyone else in recent memory: the underdog.
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1. YES, AFFLECK HAS DONE A SUPERHERO FILM BEFORE. YES, IT WAS BAD. EVEN HE KNOWS THAT
This is not a good argument for why he should be Batman in any medium. It's like saying "Jake Holland has been the worst starting linebacker in Auburn's history. Yes, he is that bad. Even he knows that. Which is why you should have confidence in him to figure out after three years of bad experience."
2. AFFLECK HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO DO A SUPERHERO FILM…IF IT WAS DONE RIGHT
He did one. And it sucked. So then after it sucked he makes a statement saying, "If the next superhero movie I'm offered doesn't suck, I'd love to be a superhero again." Again, besides claiming this supports him as Batman, how does this exactly help the argument?
Also the rest of this section only solidifies that the author doesn't truly believe in what he is writing. He knows Affleck sucks. He knows he will most likely suck as Batman. Which is why he brings up SNyder and Nolan playing daddy roles for him to make sure he doesn't fuck the movie up.
3. AFFLECK HAS JOSS WHEDON ON HIS SIDE
So again a point that doesn't support Affleck but hopes and prays that the talent around him can save him from fucking this up.
Also a chin argument. Does it really irk that many people if Batman doesn't have a ginormous chin? With CGI effects nowadays, I'm sure they superimpose a chin on a better actor.
4. AFFLECK IS ALMOST ALWAYS GREAT WHEN HE DOESN’T HAVE TO CARRY THE FILM
Ok, so when Ben Affleck isn't the lead, he almost always sometimes sort of kinda is great.
So luckily he won't be the lead role in the Batman vs. Superman film. That way his shitty presence doesn't ruin it.
5. HAVEN’T WE HEARD THESE COMPLAINTS BEFORE?
Yes. Heath Ledger was an anomaly. Christian Bale was revered as an actor prior to Batman whereas Affleck is questionable as evidenced by this article you linked.
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The first article was from somebody (chick or homo probably) who thinks Ben is great.
He cites The Town and freaking Jersey Girl as validation.
Boring Ben was the worst part of The Town. He dragged the movie down every time he was on screen. And jersey girl? Seriously?
And just for the record, that entire piece was predicated on the position that Affleck does well in supporting roles. Batman is NOT a freaking supporting role.
He's not a good actor. His best role was shamelessly ripping off Dietrich Bader's role in office space in some lame movie I can't even remember. (It was Extract).
He was the worst part of Argo. Don't make me start listing all the other wooden Indian performances he's given over the years.
I didn't bother to read the second thing you posted. Because it doesn't matter. This is a screwup of EPIC proportions.
I'm a batman fan. And I don't need some affleck fan telling me how great he's going to be. He won't be. He sucks.
Yeah, Heath Ledger turned out okay. One exception doesn't create a rule.
When you know something is no good you don't have to wait to see if it works.
I've never seen Will Ferrell play Perry Mason, but I know what it would be.
I've never seen Larry the Cable Guy play Hamlet, but I don't have to. I know what it would be.
I know what this is going to be, too.
As a fan of the character I do NOT want to see this cardboard cutout masquerading as an actor inhabit the suit. I didn't want to see Val Kilmer despoil it either.
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I vote for Ben Affleck, just as long as they don't make him have a dumbass gravel voice.
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#Boom
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Redbox might get my $1.29!
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Even the fake trailers look like shit.
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Even the fake trailers look like shit.
Well that may in fact make them real.
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This just in Justin Bieber to play Robin in this Turd.
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This just in Justin Bieber to play Robin in this Turd.
Doubtful...I think that was some sort of joke that he's doing with Funny or Die.
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I've seen this mentioned elsewhere, but what would you all think about a black Batman? Specifically Idris Elba for those that have seen him act.
Luther (Elba) would have made a great Batman with Ruth Wilson as the villainess.
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In another example of what I mentioned in page one of this thread that irks me as stickler for canon:
http://www.thewrap.com/20th-century-fox-finally-found-fantastic-four-exclusive/ (http://www.thewrap.com/20th-century-fox-finally-found-fantastic-four-exclusive/)
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Fox Finally Finds Its ‘Fantastic Four’; Jamie Bell Poised to Play The Thing (Exclusive)
By Jeff Sneider on February 19, 2014 @ 8:32 pm
Fox Finally Finds Its "Fantastic Four&" Jamie Bell Poised to Play The Thing (Exclusive)
'Fantastic Four' Reboot Moving Production From Vancouver to Louisiana (Exclusive)
“House of Cards†star Kate Mara will play Sue Storm opposite Michael B. Jordan in Josh Trank’s highly-anticipated comic book movie
Has 20th Century Fox found its “Fantastic Four?†It sure seems that way, as Hollywood was buzzing Wednesday with news that Miles Teller, Michael B. Jordan, Kate Mara and Jamie Bell are nearing deals to star in the studio’s reboot of the popular comic book franchise, multiple individuals familiar with the superhero movie have told TheWrap.
20th Century Fox had no comment, while representatives for Teller, Mara and Bell did not immediately respond to TheWrap’s request for comment.
Insiders with knowledge of the drawn-out casting process have told TheWrap that Bell is in heavy discussions to play Ben Grimm, aka The Thing. Bell’s name has never been mentioned in connection with the coveted superhero role, though it certainly makes sense as he has experience with motion-capture performances, having starred in Steven Spielberg’s “The Adventures of Tintin.†However, there is no official deal in place for Bell yet.
Jordan is set to play Johnny Storm, aka the Human Torch, while Mara is in final negotiations to play his sister Sue Storm, aka the Invisible Woman. It remains unclear how the film will explain their relationship as siblings — whether one will be adopted or if they share a parent.
Teller is the studio’s top choice to play team leader Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, and while the “Whiplash†star is eager to tackle the role, there is a significant obstacle that must be overcome first.
Teller plays Peter in the upcoming tentpole “Divergent†and has a deal to reprise his role in the sequel “Insurgent,†which is expected to start production in Louisiana at the same time as “Fantastic Four.†If his shooting dates can’t be worked out with “Insurgent†studio Lionsgate/Summit, the role of Mr. Fantastic may have to be recast.
While one studio source cautions that chemistry between the four actors is vital to the casting process and if Teller’s deal doesn’t close, it could affect the casting of The Thing, another insider told TheWrap that Bell is unlikely to be impacted by Teller’s casting.
Jordan and Teller recently co-starred in “That Awkward Moment†and are planning to reteam with director Tom Gormican on an untitled heist movie in development at Warner Bros.
Mara and Bell share their own history, as both are attached to star in the indie boxing movie “Fighting Jacob,†which coincidentally is being produced by Jordan’s manager Kenny Goodman.
What a steaming dump this cast is for so many reasons.
This dinky little puss is supposed to be The Thing?
And the obvious WTF. So the brother & sister duo are now of completely different races? We're stretching pretty hard and are going to have to create some additional storyline just to explain this casting that makes no sense.
Why not make The Thing the black guy if there's some quota we're trying to reach? I'm all for adding new super heroes that black children can identify with and then put them in these movies. Take for example the Guardians of the Galaxy movie coming out this summer. That comic wasn't created until 2008. If the goal is to have black actors more represented in these super hero movies, why couldn't they have made the lead, Peter Quill a black dude? Why introduce a new blonde haired blue eyed honky?
Yes, in the grand scheme of things, it's a relatively minor detail, and I'm not upset in a Bill O'Reilley "They're taking over" kind of way, but in a "But that's not what he's supposed to look like" kind of way, and in this case "But Sue & Johnny Storm are supposed to be biological siblings" kind of way.
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In another example of what I mentioned in page one of this thread that irks me as stickler for canon:
http://www.thewrap.com/20th-century-fox-finally-found-fantastic-four-exclusive/ (http://www.thewrap.com/20th-century-fox-finally-found-fantastic-four-exclusive/)
Teller is the studio’s top choice to play team leader Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, and while the “Whiplash†star is eager to tackle the role, there is a significant obstacle that must be overcome first.
Teller plays Peter in the upcoming tentpole “Divergent†and has a deal to reprise his role in the sequel “Insurgent,†which is expected to start production in Louisiana at the same time as “Fantastic Four.†If his shooting dates can’t be worked out with “Insurgent†studio Lionsgate/Summit, the role of Mr. Fantastic may have to be recast.
While one studio source cautions that chemistry between the four actors is vital to the casting process and if Teller’s deal doesn’t close, it could affect the casting of The Thing, another insider told TheWrap that Bell is unlikely to be impacted by Teller’s casting.
Jordan and Teller recently co-starred in “That Awkward Moment†and are planning to reteam with director Tom Gormican on an untitled heist movie in development at Warner Bros.
Mara and Bell share their own history, as both are attached to star in the indie boxing movie “Fighting Jacob,†which coincidentally is being produced by Jordan’s manager Kenny Goodman.
What a steaming dump this cast is for so many reasons.
This dinky little puss is supposed to be The Thing?
And the obvious WTF. So the brother & sister duo are now of completely different races? We're stretching pretty hard and are going to have to create some additional storyline just to explain this casting that makes no sense.
Why not make The Thing the black guy if there's some quota we're trying to reach? I'm all for adding new super heroes that black children can identify with and then put them in these movies. Take for example the Guardians of the Galaxy movie coming out this summer. That comic wasn't created until 2008. If the goal is to have black actors more represented in these super hero movies, why couldn't they have made the lead, Peter Quill a black dude? Why introduce a new blonde haired blue eyed honky?
Yes, in the grand scheme of things, it's a relatively minor detail, and I'm not upset in a Bill O'Reilley "They're taking over" kind of way, but in a "But that's not what he's supposed to look like" kind of way, and in this case "But Sue & Johnny Storm are supposed to be biological siblings" kind of way.
All I heard was "racist"
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All I heard was "racist"
Noooo! Only you and I are racist!
I said the same thing about Wild wild West years ago and got blasted as a racist.
I just thought the character of James West set in the civil war era made more sense to hold to the original premise of a white guy in that role. But I guess I was racist and did not like the black guy.
Now if they had just got Mickey Rourke to play Ali....
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Noooo! Only you and I are racist!
I said the same thing about Wild wild West years ago and got blasted as a racist.
I just thought the character of James West set in the civil war era made more sense to hold to the original premise of a white guy in that role. But I guess I was racist and did not like the black guy.
Now if they had just got Mickey Rourke to play Ali....
I haven't seen that movie in a coon's age.
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Black Man & LaRobin
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Why do you hate Handiman?
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I haven't seen that movie in a coon's age.
I say that or Kaos says that, we get raped over the coals.
I guess its all about perceptification!
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I say that or Kaos says that, we get raped over the coals.
I guess its all about perceptification!
There's a slight difference between a joke that utilizes a play on words from a popular phrase and posting a thread that is a raging rant about how ****ers should die. One is appreciated for its wit and playful humor, the other...not so much.
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There's a slight difference between a joke that utilizes a play on words from a popular phrase and posting a thread that is a raging rant about how ****ers should die. One is appreciated for its wit and playful humor, the other...not so much.
Got it.
(http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jeremy-Lin-Chink-In-The-Armor-Headline.jpg)
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I say that or Kaos says that, we get raped over the coals.
I guess its all about perceptification!
It is also a quote from the Wild Wild West movie with Fresh Prince, the one you were speaking of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAjPOpws0eE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAjPOpws0eE#)
I guess you will just continue to be slave to your disappointments.
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Yes but it was racist.
There's a slight difference between a joke that utilizes a play on words from a popular phrase and posting a thread that is a raging rant about how ****ers should die. One is appreciated for its wit and playful humor, the other...not so much.
And I've yet to see that thread. Could you by chance point it out to us.
Or were you just trying to overplay your intelligence again!
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And I've yet to see that thread. Could you by chance point it out to us.
Or were you just trying to overplay your intelligence again!
No one said anything about intelligence...do you have some sort of inferiority complex? For fuck's sake...I'm not even commenting on the thread that your menstrual-like bitching is alluding to.
The thread in question was deleted for obvious reasons. I saw it before it was deleted. Go cry to the admins about the lack of readily available evidence.
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No one said anything about intelligence...do you have some sort of inferiority complex? For fudge's sake...I'm not even commenting on the thread that your menstrual-like bitching is alluding to.
The thread in question was deleted for obvious reasons. I saw it before it was deleted. Go cry to the admins about the lack of readily available evidence.
BS.
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BS.
Please to be splainin'.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnh8KGsCcAAm00K.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnh_9_lIgAAJJFW.jpg)
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Batman be looking more scary than the batman of my youth.
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Look at that chin. My goodness what a chin.
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Look at that chin. My goodness what a chin.
I've come across yup.
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Look at that chin. My goodness what a chin.
:thumsup: Gets it.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnh8KGsCcAAm00K.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnh_9_lIgAAJJFW.jpg)
Awful. Just horrible.
The suit looks like this:
(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/anatomy-man-organs-18312451.jpg)
Batfan for life, but this is an abomination.
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Awful. Just horrible.
The suit looks like this:
(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/anatomy-man-organs-18312451.jpg)
Batfan for life, but this is an abomination.
miss the nipples?
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/thTU48B1NA_zpsec442703.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/thTU48B1NA_zpsec442703.jpg.html)
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miss the nipples?
Prefer the nips to this "flayed man" look.
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After looking at this more, one thing that bothers me-- other than the suit sort of sucks and Affleck is on the same level as John Travolta and Nick Cage as an actor -- is that it seems they returned to t he Michael Keaton style Batmobile.
(http://filmjunkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/is-the-new-batman-suit-blue-and-grey-social-644x320.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412D76Q7MZL.jpg)
Ok, that's not the only thing that bothers me. I've been wrong before. I had no expectations for Marvel's Avengers because Iron Man 2 had slipped so far from the original and Cap'n America, Thor and Hulk were all a little meh. But I was wrong. In the right hands that became a marvelous movie.
Doesn't allay my fears here.
1) Batman is more than a jaw and a dour attitude. In the proper hands he doesn't have to be a morose jackass. He doesn't have to be near monosyllabic. Keaton -- even though the movie doesn't hold up in retrospect because Burton was the last human on earth who should have been handling that film -- did a good job of managing the Bruce Wayne persona. Better than Bale did. Affleck has nothing to recommend him for this role beyond a square face. He's not Leo DiCaprio (who would be magnificent in the Bruce Wayne role, but has the wrong face). He's not his buddy Matt who would be good here. Wahlberg -- minus the Boston twang -- would be better. There was a time Bruce Willis could have handled it. Affleck is just a poor actor. Good director, but tolerable only in peripheral bit parts, not as a lead of this magnitude.
2) According to most of the web nerds, the director is looking to Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns for inspiration. WRONG. I'd be excited about a Dark Knight Returns movie because for that one you COULD cast Bruce Willis. Dark Knight Returns is about a world after Batman hung it up for a long time and both he and Superman got old. The Bat comes back and is older, weaker and creaky. He struggles to just survive brawls he would have dominated in his prime. Superman is a wussy government stooge. Selina Kyle (Catwoman) is a hooker. How you can look to that for an origin story about the beginnings of the Batman/Superman dynamic (and the Justice League) is beyond me.
3) The director. Joss Whedon managed the multiple egos and competing characters of The Avengers masterfully. I have no such confidence in Zack Snyder. Look at his resume.
300 - Overwrought, stylized sword and sandal epic. Wasn't great.
Sucker Punch - I liked it, but it was quirky and gray and stylized and over the top. It wasn't great. Could have been in more capable hands.
Watchmen - Terrible. Very stylized, over the top, overwrought. Unwatchable.
Dawn of the Dead - Campy, choppy, failed to gain much traction in a world primed and hungry for good zombie stories (Walking Dead, World War Z)
Man of Steel - It was better than I expected, but still wasn't even in the same stratosphere as Iron Man or Avengers. It looked like Sucker Punch in the way it was shot (the hues even) and it boasted the same overdone and tedious brawling that deadened Sucker Punch, 300 and even Watchmen (what I could stand of it). Looking at his entire body of work, all those movies have a similar (not great) feel.
There's nothing in Snyder's history that hints at anything near the balance and symmetry Whedon brought to Avengers.
Batman is my favorite superhero. Grew up with him, loved the comics and chose him over any of the rest. Not Superman, Green anything, Iron Man (he's so much better on screen than in the comics), Spiderman or any of those. Batman. Well, I also liked the Kamandi comics, but that's a story for another day.
I've still got Batman underwear. Wearing it at the moment, in fact.
(http://www.geekalerts.com/u/Batman-66-Running-Duo-Boxer-Shorts.jpg)
Put a woman in a Harley Quinn outfit or Batman style lingere? Or even a Batman T and panties? Trippy triggers.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7127/7024738647_e9efec5ef4.jpg)
I'm still waiting for the perfect movie treatment of the dude. Christian Bale's version was almost there, but his silly voice antics took away from it. His second film, with Heath Ledger as the Joker (another casting move I questioned) was about as good as there was. But Bale wasn't quite buff enough to carry off the Wayne persona and they crammed way too much in there. We didn't need the two-face story, didn't need the UGLIEST love interest for Batman ever envisioned in that hideous Gyllenhall horse, didn't need more Scarecrow. It was a touch too ponderous. It was way too long. And it didn't make any time for fun other than in the mayhem of the Joker. Bruce Wayne isn't a tight-lipped jackhole. Bale and Nolan never figured that out.
I don't have much hope this will be any better. In fact I anticipate it will be rant-inducing.
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Watchmen - Terrible. Very stylized, over the top, overwrought. Unwatchable.
I think of all of the stuff Snyder has done, this is the one that concerns me the most, inability to direct a film with multiple superheros. Only redeeming thing about Watchmen was the Rorschach scene with the cooking oil in the prison, which was lifted directly from the comic.
Like you, I've always been a Batman fan. He and Daredevil have always been my 1a and 1b for being my favorite.
If we're going to get stuff lifted from the Dark Knight, it's going to be the scene where Batman whips Superman's ass.
Better to lift it from the Man of Steel series that John Byrne did, where Superman gives Batman the Kryptonite ("I want the only way to beat me to lay in the hands of the only man I trust")
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Vicki Vale-Vicki Vale.
Nuff said:
http://videos.sapo.pt/7vqmDKe1tFcs9BMnvfmj (http://videos.sapo.pt/7vqmDKe1tFcs9BMnvfmj)
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Vicki Vale-Vicki Vale.
Nuff said:
That song was my jam summer of 89!
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(http://i.imgur.com/I3DC4NM.jpg)
THAT CHIN
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Boo.
Still shit.
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(http://i.imgur.com/I3DC4NM.jpg)
Looks like a hairy ass
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Looks like a hairy ass
(http://i.imgur.com/AbBsnAO.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/AbBsnAO.jpg)
Ben Assfleck
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Looks like a hairy ass
Damn, what kind of people you know?
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Damn, what kind of people you know?
I would guess hairy assed ones
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I would guess hairy assed ones
:by:?
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Ugh
https://youtu.be/0WWzgGyAH6Y
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Ugh
https://youtu.be/0WWzgGyAH6Y
That has abortion written all over it.
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Superman sucked and I had 0 interest in a sequel.
But y'all are crazy. I actually think the Batffleck will work. Much more better than the Suicide Squad trailer IMO.
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Superman sucked and I had 0 interest in a sequel.
But y'all are crazy. I actually think the Batffleck will work. Much more better than the Suicide Squad trailer IMO.
I disagree Chizad. Nice to have you back....