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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: AUChizad on May 08, 2013, 04:01:23 PM
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Building my own.
Started ordering stuff this week.
Most of the biggies (motherboard, processor, video card, SSD, RAM, CPU cooler) haven't been ordered yet.
Anyone with PC Hardware knowledge have any thoughts on this build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/AUChizad/saved/1xzY
By the way, this site is teh tittiez. Really easy to cherry pick parts that are compatible with your system, and really easy to run metric analysis on each part so that you can drill down to parts that meet your exact specifications and get the absolute best price. The email alerts are awesome too.
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I'd go Samsung on the SSD drive plus I think you can get the 256 for $180
*edit* its $189 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5247114&csid=_61
I'd go 16 gb of RAM and probably would do 1600 vs 1333 ...I'd probably also stick to Kingston
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8024630&Sku=K24-8994DMC
Don't care for the motherboard either, I have had problems with the Gigabyte, plus that is to expensive, you should be around $140. I would say MSI. I just installed one of these in my FIL's computer, great setup on it.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2332609&CatId=6976
Looks like you already bought it... but any reason you went Green on the WD. That is only a 5400 speed rate is it not? Thats slow vs a 7200 especially at a HD that size. Personally I would have probably gotten (3) 1tb drives with 7200 at 64 cache. I think about mitigation as well if your big drive crashes your fucked.
Also do yourself a favor and get rid of that POS CPU fan and get this.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7335485&csid=_61
What are you doing for a power source?
NVM I see you got the power source, I'd say thats a little overkill 550W you would have been OK.
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I'd go Samsung on the SSD drive plus I think you can get the 256 for $180
*edit* its $189 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5247114&csid=_61
Actually was going to switch it to this Samsung.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
But it's sold out.
This is also a viable option.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5552077&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=8BacdVP0GFs-RJtjHthlnFM1WlYE5m59pQ
Have any beef with Sandisk?
Plextor appeared to get decent reviews. Does the buffer cache not being listed on these mean anything? I understand that SSDs don't really need it, or often times manufacturers don't list it as a feature because it's so negligible? Not really clear on that.
I keep going back & forth between 250-256GB or 120-128GB.
My current setup uses less than 100, but I'd hate to be stuck. Leaning towards 256 now...
I'd go 16 gb of RAM and probably would do 1600 vs 1333 ...I'd probably also stick to Kingston
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8024630&Sku=K24-8994DMC
Ehh...I'm not a gamer. Can't imagine 4x2GB 1333s not being enough.
Unless I'm wrong. Enlighten me.
I mean, I'm not going to be killing it with Skyrim or anything. I'll dabble in a game here or there, and like having the option if I want to. But I'm not a gamer. I had a Wii, for Christ's sake.
The highest demand I'm likely to throw at it is having Photoshop, Firefox with 20 tabs open, iTunes, and maybe an HD video running.
Am I going to see a huge difference doubling up the ram?
Don't care for the motherboard either, I have had problems with the Gigabyte, plus that is to expensive, you should be around $140. I would say MSI. I just installed one of these in my FIL's computer, great setup on it.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2332609&CatId=6976
I've heard nothing but good about Gigabyte MBs until now.
That one looks nice. Have to have firewire, and eSata is nice, but not necessary. The four USB 3.0s is nice as well.
If you can find one similar to the one you listed but with an IEEE 1394a, and I'm sold.
Looks like you already bought it... but any reason you went Green on the WD. That is only a 5400 speed rate is it not? Thats slow vs a 7200 especially at a HD that size. Personally I would have probably gotten (3) 1tb drives with 7200 at 64 cache. I think about mitigation as well if your big drive crashes your fucked.
Actually, I'm using this to go in my Drobo, which is essentially a proprietary RAID configuration. It spreads your data across all of the drives for protection. I've currently got 2 2TBs, a 3TB, and a 750GB. Going to swap the 750GB for this Green drive. I know 5400 isn't great, but I jumped on $109.99 for a 3TB. Speed isn't really that big a deal since it's going to basically contain my movies, and a backup of my music & maybe pictures. Basically I plan on using the SSD for all of my programs, the 750GB for all other files including documents, pictures, music, etc., and then reach out to the Drobo for my video files. They play just fine on my present setup with USB 2.0. By the way, this is why Firewire is a must for me. If I'm looking for a speed upgrade on my high capacity drives, I'm going to get more from switching from USB2.0 to firewire, no? Those are the only two outputs on the back of my model Drobo (I've had it for a while).
Also do yourself a favor and get rid of that POS CPU fan and get this.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7335485&csid=_61
Hadn't done a lot of research on the water coolers. I thought they were more expensive. I've heard a lot of horror stories about them leaking and fucking up your entire system. Are that a valid concern?
If I use that radiator, it takes the place of the CPU cooler, correct? Also, I wouldn't be able to use the two case fans I just bought, but I guess that's not a huge deal. Maybe I can turn around and sell them.
The rebate on those case fans only applied to one, that's why there's a different price for each. Maybe I can keep one and use it for the bottom fan.
Basically, I figured I had the cooling situation under control, and didn't want to go overkill. Reconsidering now.
What are you doing for a power source?
NVM I see you got the power source, I'd say thats a little overkill 550W you would have been OK.
Well, shit.
I guess there's no use crying over spilled milk, but at $60.99, I couldn't have gone much cheaper for the quality, no? There's no risk in overpowering or anything, is there?
Really appreciate your input, btw. This is what I needed before I started pulling triggers.
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Oh, and I meant to mention...obviously I'm on a budget.
I'm trying to keep it under a grand to minimize the shit I get from my wife for ordering this.
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Another thing about the motherboard:
The one I had has 5 SATA 6GB/s & 4 SATA 3GB/s slots. Plus an mSata slot & an eSata port.
The one you suggested has only 2 SATA 6B/s and 4 SATA 3GB/s. Am I selling myself short for expansion if I go this route? Would feel better if it was the other way around: 2 SATA 3GB/s and 4 SATA 6GB/s.
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My best advice is to make certain that the quadulator circuit is modified to sync with the diabolical centrifugal modulation unit. It can be a bear to resume normal ops if not synced correctly in phase 1 of the initial startup.
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I know you're not a fan of Gigabyte, but what about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Can get it for $114.99.
By the way, yes I am a tard. Firewire is slower than USB 2.0. I was thinking original USBs, but I'm pretty sure the drobo has 2.0. Derp.
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Nick Burns, the company computer guy
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Which brand of memory do you think would be best to buy if you were making your computer RIAA-proof?
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If I go big with the water cooler, I may as well go big with the dual fan that fits my case, no?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Or could I use one of the fans I bought, and the one radiator you suggested with my case? Thoughts?
By the way, keep checking the link in the OP for my latest build. It's static.
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13 words. Flux capicatater.
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Asus MB with Intel i7. I'm not a gamer, but I love speed.
http://rog.asus.com/motherboard/formula/maximus-v-formula-game-bundled-edition/
http://rog.asus.com/motherboard/formula/maximus-v-formulathunderfx/
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I know you're not a fan of Gigabyte, but what about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Can get it for $114.99.
By the way, yes I am a tard. Firewire is slower than USB 2.0. I was thinking original USBs, but I'm pretty sure the drobo has 2.0. Derp.
It's not that I hate Gigabyte, I have heard good things about their motherboards. I just had problems with the one I had (actually two) because I took it back and had the same problem with the second one. My computer would intermittently freeze. I ended up swapping for an ASUS. My initial thoughts on the first MOBO you had was that it was too expensive. If you can get that one at $114 I'd say go for it.
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Definitely DO NOT go 4 sticks of 2gb RAM. If you only want to go with 8GB thats fine but get 2 sticks of 4GB. That way if you want to go 16GB later you only need to buy another 8GB (2x4GB)
I am not a huge gamer either but, I am huge proponent of RAM. I would take a lesser CPU if it meant I couldn't go 16GB or more of RAM. I multitask a lot on my computers, and I always have multiple programs or windows open that = ++RAM. So I always go overkill. Plus with any kind of movie manipulation the more RAM the better.
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If I go big with the water cooler, I may as well go big with the dual fan that fits my case, no?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Or could I use one of the fans I bought, and the one radiator you suggested with my case? Thoughts?
By the way, keep checking the link in the OP for my latest build. It's static.
The main thing I don't understand that I'd like some info on is the water cooling.
I already ordered the two case fans. I can return them if I need to, but I'll have to pay a restocking fee, and have to deal with shipping. Luckily I bought them through NewEgg, so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle. But I need to know soon, because they've already been delivered, and I need to either apply for the rebate for the one, or return them. Or maybe just return one.
I guess this is what I need clarification on:
With the case I bought (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-t410e001), can I get one 152mm long liquid cooling radiator (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h50) in one of the fan ports on the top, and then install one of those 140mm case fans (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-r4l4s10abgp) that I bought for the other port? Or will they not fit together? OR should I just spend twice as much and go for the dual fan 275mm radiator (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) that this was clearly designed for?
Regardless, I can only use a 120mm fan on the bottom, so I can't use those fans I bought anywhere else.
Unless...can I install the 140mm fans on one of those radiators, and use the one it comes with for the bottom?
Any clarification on the ramblings above would be much appreciated.
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Have any beef with Sandisk?
Plextor appeared to get decent reviews. Does the buffer cache not being listed on these mean anything? I understand that SSDs don't really need it, or often times manufacturers don't list it as a feature because it's so negligible? Not really clear on that.
I keep going back & forth between 250-256GB or 120-128GB.
If you can afford the 256 go for it. I have no problems with SanDisk. I am not a big "brand name guy" for the sake of a name, but when it comes to certain pieces of equipment I am. I stick to companies that are known for what they are producing or are reliable companies. For instance I have a Intel 128GB SSD with WIN7 and Adobe Suites on it on my PC at home and thats it. The rest of my programs are spread across the independent 4x 1-TB I have. On my Mac I have a 256 Samsung SSD. If I could have afforded it at the time I would have gone with the 256 on my home PC but they were way more then they are now. What I'm getting at is the size is up to you (or the puerto rican ;) ) The rest I would stick to a company that is known for their flash drives, because IMO it is the most important aspect of your PC. I would spend more money to get a brand name and scale back somewhere else if need be.
Actually, I'm using this to go in my Drobo, which is essentially a proprietary RAID configuration. It spreads your data across all of the drives for protection. I've currently got 2 2TBs, a 3TB, and a 750GB. Going to swap the 750GB for this Green drive. I know 5400 isn't great, but I jumped on $109.99 for a 3TB. Speed isn't really that big a deal since it's going to basically contain my movies, and a backup of my music & maybe pictures. Basically I plan on using the SSD for all of my programs, the 750GB for all other files including documents, pictures, music, etc., and then reach out to the Drobo for my video files. They play just fine on my present setup with USB 2.0. By the way, this is why Firewire is a must for me. If I'm looking for a speed upgrade on my high capacity drives, I'm going to get more from switching from USB2.0 to firewire, no? Those are the only two outputs on the back of my model Drobo (I've had it for a while).
You will just find that disk indexing or when you go to that drive it may take the computer a bit to find it. But makes sense.
Hadn't done a lot of research on the water coolers. I thought they were more expensive. I've heard a lot of horror stories about them leaking and fucking up your entire system. Are that a valid concern?
If I use that radiator, it takes the place of the CPU cooler, correct? Also, I wouldn't be able to use the two case fans I just bought, but I guess that's not a huge deal. Maybe I can turn around and sell them.
The rebate on those case fans only applied to one, that's why there's a different price for each. Maybe I can keep one and use it for the bottom fan.
Basically, I figured I had the cooling situation under control, and didn't want to go overkill. Reconsidering now.
I love that corsair water cooler, it is the same one I have in my machine. Probably one of the best investments I made. Thats a damn good price too I paid $99 for mine. I saw you bought the other case fans, those should still fit into the machine. Cases today have multiple spots for fans. I know my case can fit like up to 6 or 7 fans. You should be fine with the ones you bought. Flip one of them around to pull air out as well.
I guess there's no use crying over spilled milk, but at $60.99, I couldn't have gone much cheaper for the quality, no? There's no risk in overpowering or anything, is there?
No risk in overpowering no, however you might notice a kick in your electric bill believe it or not 750W is a beast. You will be fine though otherwise.
Really appreciate your input, btw. This is what I needed before I started pulling triggers.
NP :thumsup:
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Definitely DO NOT go 4 sticks of 2gb RAM. If you only want to go with 8GB thats fine but get 2 sticks of 4GB. That way if you want to go 16GB later you only need to buy another 8GB (2x4GB)
I am not a huge gamer either but, I am huge proponent of RAM. I would take a lesser CPU if it meant I couldn't go 16GB or more of RAM. I multitask a lot on my computers, and I always have multiple programs or windows open that = ++RAM. So I always go overkill. Plus with any kind of movie manipulation the more RAM the better.
I'm dyslexic. I typed 4x2GB RAM. I meant 2x4GB RAM. Roughly 3/4 or 79.2%.
But I will take your suggestions into consideration. You think 2x8GB is the way to go for expansion? I read that more sticks is better than more speed for multitasking. Maybe I misinterpreted what I read.
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The main thing I don't understand that I'd like some info on is the water cooling.
I already ordered the two case fans. I can return them if I need to, but I'll have to pay a restocking fee, and have to deal with shipping. Luckily I bought them through NewEgg, so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle. But I need to know soon, because they've already been delivered, and I need to either apply for the rebate for the one, or return them. Or maybe just return one.
I guess this is what I need clarification on:
With the case I bought (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-t410e001), can I get one 152mm long liquid cooling radiator (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h50) in one of the fan ports on the top, and then install one of those 140mm case fans (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-r4l4s10abgp) that I bought for the other port? Or will they not fit together? OR should I just spend twice as much and go for the dual fan 275mm radiator (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) that this was clearly designed for?
Regardless, I can only use a 120mm fan on the bottom, so I can't use those fans I bought anywhere else.
Unless...can I install the 140mm fans on one of those radiators, and use the one it comes with for the bottom?
Any clarification on the ramblings above would be much appreciated.
See my post above. You should be fine with the extra fans you bought. Opposite of my power supply observation. You can never have to much cooling. Like I said flip one around to pull air out as well.
I didn't look directly at the case you bought or were buying, but most tower cases have 2 spots for fans on the door side that is above the CPU. Then they have the back slot (this is where the CPU cooler fan will go). Usually 1 or 2 slots for fans on top and then 1 slot in the front. You can also place one of those fans directly on top of (or in-between) your hard drives to help keep those as cool as well.
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I'm dyslexic. I typed 4x2GB RAM. I meant 2x4GB RAM. Roughly 3/4 or 79.2%.
But I will take your suggestions into consideration. You think 2x8GB is the way to go for expansion? I read that more sticks is better than more speed for multitasking. Maybe I misinterpreted what I read.
If you are only doing (2x4GB) now then for expansion (2x4GB) later would be fine.
If you are going 16GB now then I would do (2x8GB) yes, because then later you could go an additional (2x8GB) for 32GB.
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I love that corsair water cooler, it is the same one I have in my machine. Probably one of the best investments I made. Thats a damn good price too I paid $99 for mine. I saw you bought the other case fans, those should still fit into the machine. Cases today have multiple spots for fans. I know my case can fit like up to 6 or 7 fans. You should be fine with the ones you bought. Flip one of them around to pull air out as well.
I typed that out above this post before reading this. My case comes with 2 120mm fans on the front preinstalled, 1 120mm fan on the back preinstalled, and spots for a 120mm fan on the bottom, and the top spot is kind of interesting. Can fit a dual radiator, or a pair of 120mm or 140mm fans. May want to take a look at it. Will be clearer than me trying to explain it. Or maybe this Asian Lady can do a better job. (Skip to 2:48)
http://youtu.be/I5S4XImB9rU
So what I need to know is:
A) Do I get a single fan radiator and an extra fan? If so can my 140mm fan fit in with the 152mm radiator?
B) Do I get the 275mm radiator and fuck both the fans?
No risk in overpowering no, however you might notice a kick in your electric bill believe it or not 750W is a beast. You will be fine though otherwise.
Uggh...that sucks.
According to the features list on NewEgg, the power supply I bought has:
ErP compliant for low power usage in standby
Active Power Factor Correction (PFC) to effectively regulate input voltage
Think that'll help? I don't really understand what that means, but it sounds to me like if I'm only running 450W worth of equipment, it will correct the wattage to that? Hopefully that will pull my power bill back to around where it would be with a 550W. Maybe not. I dunno.
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http://youtu.be/I5S4XImB9rU
I don't speak asian
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Seriously though, I like that fuckin case....that is really nice.
Let me go back and look at the fans you already bought, I never really looked at those.
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You just got those (2) 140 mm case fans right? For $16 total. Really not worth sending back or worrying about. I would stick those two bastards right in the top slots that she pointed out in the video. That will leave you with one extra fan (the one that comes with the machine that you removed fo the CPU cooler) I would just save that one...fans die pretty regularly.
Or you could drop it in the bottom slot, but I don't think you need it.
You will have way more cooling then I have and I am pretty much running this exact machine, save for I have 16GB RAM and a slightly stronger graphics card.
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I really don't know why you are putting this much thought and money into something you know the government is going to confiscate for your piracy trial?
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Why do Java developers wear glasses?
Because they don't C#.
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You just got those (2) 140 mm case fans right? For $16 total. Really not worth sending back or worrying about. I would stick those two bastards right in the top slots that she pointed out in the video. That will leave you with one extra fan (the one that comes with the machine that you removed fo the CPU cooler) I would just save that one...fans die pretty regularly.
Or you could drop it in the bottom slot, but I don't think you need it.
You will have way more cooling then I have and I am pretty much running this exact machine, save for I have 16GB RAM and a slightly stronger graphics card.
I don't understand...
My original plan was to pop the 140mm fans in the top spot.
The liquid cooler would take up at least one of those spots, no? Not even sure that I can use one for the radiator and one for the fan.
Are you saying that I can use the 140mm fans and lay the radiator on top of one? Can I attach one of the 140mm fans to the radiator? And you're saying take the 120mm fan that comes with it and just either save it or put it in the bottom slot?
Why do Java developers wear glasses?
Because they don't C#.
Just curious: Do you get any of these jokes, or did you google them? They actually do all make sense and are mildly humorous.
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Ooohhh...I think I get what you were saying now.
Put the radiator on the 120mm back slot that already comes with a fan. I thought you had to put them in the top slot.
Also thought the back fan was always used for exhaust...
I guess I'll point the two front fans in, the two top fans out, and the back fan for this radiator. Is that what you're suggesting?
It looks like that's what this guy is doing...
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/NZXT-Tempest-410-Elite-Mid-Tower-Case-Review/Installation-and-Case-Cooling
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Do you get any of these jokes, or did you google them? They actually do all make sense and are mildly humorous.
I realize this was probably intended for one of the less tech savvy individuals on this board but I would personally have found this offensive. I found these jokes slap my knee and shit my pants funny. I can barely contain myself.
But, computer jokes always do that to me.
I laughed so hard my pocket protector fell out.
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BTW. If I'm doing the Corsair H50, I need to move on it today. Last day to get $10 back.
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tl;dc
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all of this to make twitter fast. wow. just wow.
yo snaggles...i appreciated your input in this thread.
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all of this to make twitter fast. wow. just wow.
yo snaggles...i appreciated your input in this thread.
Thanks man. A Trojan Virus to all the haters.
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Ooohhh...I think I get what you were saying now.
Put the radiator on the 120mm back slot that already comes with a fan. I thought you had to put them in the top slot.
Also thought the back fan was always used for exhaust...
I guess I'll point the two front fans in, the two top fans out, and the back fan for this radiator. Is that what you're suggesting?
It looks like that's what this guy is doing...
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/NZXT-Tempest-410-Elite-Mid-Tower-Case-Review/Installation-and-Case-Cooling
Yes this is the general gist.. The Corsair comes with a fan system and cooler. The cooler snaps onto the CPU and then the other part goes where the back case fan is. I suppose you could also put it in the top. Either way you should end up with one extra fan.
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Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck.
I had these in my cart.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148663
Had a coupon code that knocked off an extra $13.
Before I could complete the order, they sold out. This was exactly what I needed. Goddammit...
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ebayz has similar new in package. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-16GB-2-x-8GB-DDR3-1600MHz-PC3-12800-1-5V-CL9-RAM-Kit-/171037745804?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item27d2a4e28c
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I used to build my own computers, but that was back when you could steal operating systems.
Now, we do everything on a couple of laptops and one old desktop.
The kids hardly ever use a computer any longer. They have iPhones.
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Thoughts on picking up something like this to fill one of those 5.25" drive bays?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005
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Thoughts on picking up something like this to fill one of those 5.25" drive bays?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005
Looks nice. Or, I could come over and fill it with my erect penis.
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Meh, I changed my mind. Looks like it makes a cable mess in your case. Not into that.
Plus I'd rather fill it with WiregrassTiger's erect penis.
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Meh, I changed my mind. Looks like it makes a cable mess in your case. Not into that.
Plus I'd rather fill it with WiregrassTiger's erect penis.
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Now this motherfucking conversation is going somewhere interesting.
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Only two pieces left of the puzzle.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/AUChizad/saved/1xzY
I kept telling myself I was going to hold out for Memorial Day weekend. Was hoping for some mega-sale.
I've bought everything up except the video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125444&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
And the processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Video card has a $10 rebate that ends on 5/31 and the processor has a $10 promo that ends on 5/20.
Do I gamble and hope for a lower price or do I pull the trigger this week?
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pull the trigger. no matter what happens whether it is next week or months from now consumers seem never to win on a consistent basis.
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Input welcome on this topic as well:
Go ahead and jump on Windows 8?
Conventional wisdom is this is the Me/Vista of today.
Most people seem to think it's great for tablets & touchscreens, but sucks without it.
However, I've gotten the vibe that it's overall a better OS than Windows 7. That it's basically the same, with a few performance enhancing features (such as faster bootup and a better usage of SSDs).
I'm thinking if I already had 7, I'd just stick with it, but since I'm starting fresh, I don't see why not to go with the latest build. They just announced today that what was rumored to be the next version will actually just be an 8.1 Service Pack offered for free to anyone on Windows 8.
Supposedly, amongst other things, it will fix the #1 complaint, which is that they took away the Start Button and replaced it with the "Start Screen", which is the flashy interface. However, I've seen where you can download 3rd party software now to correct that problem (http://www.areaguard.com/startw8).
Seems like if I'm starting from scratch, I might as well go for 8, get the 8.1 upgrade, and not have to worry about upgrading again until I really need to.
Now, speaking of this...anyone have an MSDN license?
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Input welcome on this topic as well:
Go ahead and jump on Windows 8?
Conventional wisdom is this is the Me/Vista of today.
Most people seem to think it's great for tablets & touchscreens, but sucks without it.
However, I've gotten the vibe that it's overall a better OS than Windows 7. That it's basically the same, with a few performance enhancing features (such as faster bootup and a better usage of SSDs).
I'm thinking if I already had 7, I'd just stick with it, but since I'm starting fresh, I don't see why not to go with the latest build. They just announced today that what was rumored to be the next version will actually just be an 8.1 Service Pack offered for free to anyone on Windows 8.
Supposedly, amongst other things, it will fix the #1 complaint, which is that they took away the Start Button and replaced it with the "Start Screen", which is the flashy interface. However, I've seen where you can download 3rd party software now to correct that problem (http://www.areaguard.com/startw8).
Seems like if I'm starting from scratch, I might as well go for 8, get the 8.1 upgrade, and not have to worry about upgrading again until I really need to.
Now, speaking of this...anyone have an MSDN license?
I don't have a MSDN but do have a CDL and motorcycle license. I also have a pistol carry permit but I'm not sure if that would help you.
I receommend IBM Selectric for letters and such. I use excel spreadsheet some but I think there are better operating systems on the market, like word perfect or quick books. You may want to do a price comparison to see which is in your budget.
One of the best values I've seen is Google. It's a free service and I just started using it but it's great.
If you are into gaming and such, I highly recommend Atari. Space Invaders and Astroids are my personal favs.
Feel free to pm me with any other computer related questions. Would you like to be on my buddy list?
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I don't have a MSDN but do have a CDL and motorcycle license. I also have a pistol carry permit but I'm not sure if that would help you.
I receommend IBM Selectric for letters and such. I use excel spreadsheet some but I think there are better operating systems on the market, like word perfect or quick books. You may want to do a price comparison to see which is in your budget.
One of the best values I've seen is Google. It's a free service and I just started using it but it's great.
If you are into gaming and such, I highly recommend Atari. Space Invaders and Astroids are my personal favs.
Feel free to pm me with any other computer related questions. Would you like to be on my buddy list?
All of this.
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I don't have a MSDN but do have a CDL and motorcycle license. I also have a pistol carry permit but I'm not sure if that would help you.
I receommend IBM Selectric for letters and such. I use excel spreadsheet some but I think there are better operating systems on the market, like word perfect or quick books. You may want to do a price comparison to see which is in your budget.
One of the best values I've seen is Google. It's a free service and I just started using it but it's great.
If you are into gaming and such, I highly recommend Atari. Space Invaders and Astroids are my personal favs.
Feel free to pm me with any other computer related questions. Would you like to be on my buddy list?
Fuck Windoze, go with Fedora 18.
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Input welcome on this topic as well:
Go ahead and jump on Windows 8?
NO
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NO
Care to elaborate?
Everyone I've talked to in person seems to be saying this, but most if not all of them haven't used it.
Reading forums, subreddits, etc., it seems that the impression that it is terrible is way overblown, and that in reality it's everything that Windows 7 is, plus improvements such as performance enhancements, more support for multi-monitor displays (such as multiple desktop wallpapers), minus a toolbar, which as I mentioned, can already be replaced, and will be replaced natively with the free update coming soon.
I'm not seeing a lot of convincing arguments besides fanboys just assuming that every other version of Windows sucks and the start menu takes getting used to (unless you download a third party enhancement, in which case it's completely not an issue at all). Seems like people don't want to make the upgrade and want to convince themselves that they made the right decision. Of course, the flip to that are people that made the upgrade and want to convince themselves that it was worth it. The sense I'm getting, like I said, is not to make the jump if you don't have to, but if you're starting from scratch on a new system, why the hell not?
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I have used it. We have it here to play with at work. If you are used to any kind of Windows Operating System since XP it is totally fucking different. To use the word hate is to be nice, I think it is a nightmare of EPIC proportions, that is really going to cost Microsoft.
It is not user friendly at all IMO, decent operating system for a touchscreen I guess. It takes sometimes 3 to 4 clicks to do things that use to take 1. Have at it if you want, I'd stay the fuck away from it. I have already removed it from 3 peoples systems who got it free with their computer and wanted to roll back to 7.
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I heard with Win8, you have to configure a "START" icon and command for the GUI. Fuck Windoze.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57496506-292/how-to-get-the-start-menu-back-in-windows-8/
From the comments, LMAO!
Mark Mac
Jan 3, 2013
I downloaded and installed the Classic Shell - BIG MISTAKE.
For a start, I got a plethora of unwanted extras which was promised all could be uninstalled. Not !! Still trying to uninstall Shopping Sidekick Plugin.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Then Internet Explorer stopped working and screwed up my mouse movement.
I think a system restore will fix things.
Mark MAC
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Fuck Win8 hard. In da mouf. Really hard. They finally got shit right and came out with Win7, so it is beyond me why they went to 8. I guess they are trying to get on the tablet bandwagon, but I think that they are screwing up by putting all of their eggs in one basket. It isn't going to get put on anything that will amount to much competition to an iPad, so they're pissing in the wind. We are about to purchase 30 new laptops at work for our cars, and if we can't get a Win7 rollback, we're wiping them clean and loading Win7. And that isn't fun.
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She's Done!!!
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She's Done!!!
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Sweet! I especially like the lava lamp.
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That's a thing of beauty.
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RIAA will enjoy that free evidence. It's nice though.
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Did you install a stripper pole with that lighting?
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LAN party at Chad's!
I'll bring soda and pie.
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Disappointed that no one noticed the reflection of my scotch glass in the side panel.
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Disappointed that no one noticed the reflection of my scotch glass in the side panel.
Sorry. I was looking at the half burned joint in the ash tray.
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Sooo, what OS or OSes did you load?
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Sooo, what OS or OSes did you load?
Just went with Windows 7 x64 Enterprise Edition.
Enough people had talked me out of 8.
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Just went with Windows 7 x64 Enterprise Edition.
Enough people had talked me out of 8.
Windoze 8 does suck. Unlike linux, Micorsoft can't seem to separate their distros. Did you do the build yourself?
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Windoze 8 does suck. Unlike linux, Micorsoft can't seem to separate their distros. Did you do the build yourself?
Had help from my wife's uncle.
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I really want to do another self-build with the new Intel i7 processor, but I'm going to wait until the price drops. Hell, ebayz has 'em for $600 just for the porcessor.
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I really want to do another self-build with the new Intel i7 processor, but I'm going to wait until the price drops. Hell, ebayz has 'em for $600 just for the porcessor.
What are the fucking specs on a CPU for $600? TigerDirect has i7 processors for ~$250.
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What are the fucking specs on a CPU for $600? TigerDirect has i7 processors for ~$250.
It's a microprocessor. Pre-release price. It's been overclocked to 8 gig. It's official release date is June 2 or 4.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-Haswell-CPU-Review-Posted-in-China-3.jpg
http://wccftech.com/intel-haswell-core-i7-4770k-core-i73770k-benchmarks-leaked-memory-clocked-3000-mhz/
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013052101_Intel_Core_i7-4770_and_i7-4770K_CPUs_surfaced_on_eBay.html
This is probably what I'll go with instead.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7791365&Sku=M69-7092
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It's a microprocessor. Pre-release price. It's been overclocked to 8 gig. It's official release date is June 2 or 4.
Ebay sells shit pre-release now? Is Chizad pirating them?
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Ebay sells shit pre-release now? Is Chizad pirating them?
:rofl: :facepalm:
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On a somewhat related hardware note, Intel is in the process of getting these into the mainstream market:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/nuc.html
Right now it can only go up to an i3 processor, but should have an i5 option on the market by fall. It is only 4" x 4", and can mount to the back of your monitor using a standard vesa mount. RAM is expandable to 16GB, and it also goes up to 2 HDMI outputs and 5 USB ports. I've never known Intel to put out shit (except maybe Celeron processors), so I'm excited about what this thing can do. I am in charge of our department's mobile command trailer, and I'm looking to put 3 of these in there. It will be a perfect application for us, especially driving two 37" monitors that we would otherwise have to run alot of cable to from the rack. Probably not a good solution if you need alot of expandability or anything, but I think it will have its own niche in the market.
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On a somewhat related hardware note, Intel is in the process of getting these into the mainstream market:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/nuc.html
Right now it can only go up to an i3 processor, but should have an i5 option on the market by fall. It is only 4" x 4", and can mount to the back of your monitor using a standard vesa mount. RAM is expandable to 16GB, and it also goes up to 2 HDMI outputs and 5 USB ports. I've never known Intel to put out shit (except maybe Celeron processors), so I'm excited about what this thing can do. I am in charge of our department's mobile command trailer, and I'm looking to put 3 of these in there. It will be a perfect application for us, especially driving two 37" monitors that we would otherwise have to run alot of cable to from the rack. Probably not a good solution if you need alot of expandability or anything, but I think it will have its own niche in the market.
What kind of price range?
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What kind of price range?
Supposedly $750-$1000 range, depending on what options you want. I would imagine that the i5 option would get you closer to $1000. I'm particularly excited about this because it solves some problems for me. I'm trying to totally rework the technology in our command trailer, and this will eliminate the need for either rack mounted machines, or taking up workspace with laptops and docking stations.
Another cool feature of these machines is that you can daisy chain 6 devices using a Thunderbolt connection. It is a 10Gbps bi-directional connection. It is also compatible with DisplayPort connections.
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Supposedly $750-$1000 range, depending on what options you want. I would imagine that the i5 option would get you closer to $1000. I'm particularly excited about this because it solves some problems for me. I'm trying to totally rework the technology in our command trailer, and this will eliminate the need for either rack mounted machines, or taking up workspace with laptops and docking stations.
Another cool feature of these machines is that you can daisy chain 6 devices using a Thunderbolt connection. It is a 10Gbps bi-directional connection. It is also compatible with DisplayPort connections.
Pricey but nice.
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Cleaned up the inside a little bit.
Installed a Blue-Ray drive I picked out of an old PC.
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Fuck how it looks, hows it runnin?
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That corsair system is still the tits I'm glad I convinced you to get that...you will be glad.
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Fuck how it looks, hows it runnin?
Like a dream.
I'm lovin it so far. I haven't installed a game on it yet, but that is coming soon. Will let you know.
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That corsair system is still the tits I'm glad I convinced you to get that...you will be glad.
And I'm happy that I could help with this project as well. I never mind helping out people who don't know shit and imparting book learnin.