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Title: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUownsU on April 09, 2013, 10:58:28 PM
Kinda disgusting really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIAm0OrRKCI
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 10, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
What is wealth?  It's not just dollar amounts. 

This is a difficult subject for me.  Obviously, the top 1% doesn't need to be that far ahead, but the idea of forcing people to give up their wealth doesn't sit well with me. 

For example, the Walton family.  Billionaires.  Multiple billionaires.  Do they really need that much money?  No.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to watch the government come in and steal it from them so that their money can pay for poorly planned programs that don't actually alleviate problems in the country.  To combat those 1%ers, you have to stop buying products from Wal-Mart.

And that's the real problem.  The 99% loathes the 1%, but the 99% continually does everything it can to keep them wealthy.  Support mom and pop stores.  Be more self-sufficient.  Stop insisting on everything being convenient.  Work harder.  Have goals.  Have perseverance.  Nothing is forcing the 1% to stay that rich in a capitalistic society.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Saniflush on April 10, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
What is wealth?  It's not just dollar amounts. 

This is a difficult subject for me.  Obviously, the top 1% doesn't need to be that far ahead, but the idea of forcing people to give up their wealth doesn't sit well with me. 

For example, the Walton family.  Billionaires.  Multiple billionaires.  Do they really need that much money?  No.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to watch the government come in and steal it from them so that their money can pay for poorly planned programs that don't actually alleviate problems in the country.  To combat those 1%ers, you have to stop buying products from Wal-Mart.

And that's the real problem.  The 99% loathes the 1%, but the 99% continually does everything it can to keep them wealthy.  Support mom and pop stores.  Be more self-sufficient.  Stop insisting on everything being convenient.  Work harder.  Have goals.  Have perseverance.  Nothing is forcing the 1% to stay that rich in a capitalistic society.

Bullshit.......Bush is to blame.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: dallaswareagle on April 10, 2013, 11:16:46 AM
What is wealth?  It's not just dollar amounts. 

This is a difficult subject for me.  Obviously, the top 1% doesn't need to be that far ahead, but the idea of forcing people to give up their wealth doesn't sit well with me. 

For example, the Walton family.  Billionaires.  Multiple billionaires.  Do they really need that much money?  No.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to watch the government come in and steal it from them so that their money can pay for poorly planned programs that don't actually alleviate problems in the country.  To combat those 1%ers, you have to stop buying products from Wal-Mart.

And that's the real problem.  The 99% loathes the 1%, but the 99% continually does everything it can to keep them wealthy.  Support mom and pop stores.  Be more self-sufficient.  Stop insisting on everything being convenient.  Work harder.  Have goals.  Have perseverance.  Nothing is forcing the 1% to stay that rich in a capitalistic society.


Surley you jest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 10, 2013, 11:19:25 AM
I thought the Waltons were barely getting by.  They all lived in that one house, including Grandpa and Grandma.  I guess they paid the bills with that saw mill but I got the impression times were pretty tough.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Saniflush on April 10, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
I thought the Waltons were barely getting by.  They all lived in that one house, including Grandpa and Grandma.  I guess they paid the bills with that saw mill but I got the impression times were pretty tough.


Everyone knows that the Baldwin sisters were the monied individuals with their distilling operation.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 10, 2013, 11:37:28 AM
What is wealth?  It's not just dollar amounts. 

This is a difficult subject for me.  Obviously, the top 1% doesn't need to be that far ahead, but the idea of forcing people to give up their wealth doesn't sit well with me. 

For example, the Walton family.  Billionaires.  Multiple billionaires.  Do they really need that much money?  No.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to watch the government come in and steal it from them so that their money can pay for poorly planned programs that don't actually alleviate problems in the country.  To combat those 1%ers, you have to stop buying products from Wal-Mart.

And that's the real problem.  The 99% loathes the 1%, but the 99% continually does everything it can to keep them wealthy.  Support mom and pop stores.  Be more self-sufficient.  Stop insisting on everything being convenient.  Work harder.  Have goals.  Have perseverance.  Nothing is forcing the 1% to stay that rich in a capitalistic society.

Bullshit. When the shit hits the fan, we will roast their thieving asses over a fire (including those rich cocksuckers in DC) and feed them to the dogs. Don't think for a one minute that they got that rich without stealing.

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To fully appreciate the social impact of the fast-deepening income inequality, it needs to be seen alongside the equally fast-deepening wealth inequality in the US. If citizens here possess any appreciable wealth, it takes the form of their homes. US housing prices have fallen through the crisis (since 2007). Over the same time, the rising use of home equity as collateral for loans has cut the portion of home values owned by occupiers, while raising the portion owed to banks. The combination of falling home prices and falling owners' equity in those homes yields another massive upward redistribution of wealth. That is because stock markets "recovered" – thanks to massive infusions of government money into financial institutions. Wealth in the form of stocks and bonds thus rose relative to wealth in the form of home ownership. Stock and bond ownership is highly concentrated in the US, much more so than home values. The result is deepening inequality of wealth distribution alongside greater income inequality.

The claims and promises of US capitalism to be an engine that builds and sustains a vast "middle class" and that constantly "delivers the goods" seem more hollow today than ever. Questions, criticisms and opposition bubble up across the country. The CBO report reflects, as well as documents, the underlying economic realities. However inadvertently, it thereby supports the rising tide of protest.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/26/how-1-got-richer-99-poorer

FUCK THEM IN THE ASS!
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 10, 2013, 11:54:42 AM
Mind-numbingly stupid   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: War Eagle!!! on April 10, 2013, 12:41:32 PM
Mind-numbingly stupid   :facepalm:

Yep...but what do you do about it?

I damn sure don't trust the government to touch it...
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: djsimp on April 10, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
Mind-numbingly stupid   :facepalm:

What exactly do you mean Snaggle?
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AWK on April 10, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
JFK never landed on the moon and the moon's death was faked.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 10, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
What exactly do you mean Snaggle?

I've started and stopped on a rant 3 times.  Better left alone. 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 10, 2013, 02:04:34 PM
JFK never landed on the moon and the moon's death was faked.

So, the Germans never bombed Pearl Harbor either?
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUownsU on April 10, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
What is wealth?  It's not just dollar amounts. 

This is a difficult subject for me.  Obviously, the top 1% doesn't need to be that far ahead, but the idea of forcing people to give up their wealth doesn't sit well with me. 

For example, the Walton family.  Billionaires.  Multiple billionaires.  Do they really need that much money?  No.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to watch the government come in and steal it from them so that their money can pay for poorly planned programs that don't actually alleviate problems in the country.  To combat those 1%ers, you have to stop buying products from Wal-Mart.

And that's the real problem.  The 99% loathes the 1%, but the 99% continually does everything it can to keep them wealthy.  Support mom and pop stores.  Be more self-sufficient.  Stop insisting on everything being convenient.  Work harder.  Have goals.  Have perseverance.  Nothing is forcing the 1% to stay that rich in a capitalistic society.
Your belief that shit got this way due to the average man's laziness and that he needs to just put his head down and work harder, is absolutely hysterical. There is noway in hell that 1% of the poulation should have 40% of this countries money and control 50% of its stock market. No fucking way.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 10, 2013, 08:27:15 PM
Your belief that shit got this way due to the average man's laziness and that he needs to just put his head down and work harder, is absolutely hysterical. There is noway in hell that 1% of the poulation should have 40% of this countries money and control 50% of its stock market. No fucking way.
When did I say that?
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUownsU on April 10, 2013, 09:18:54 PM
Right here? Atleast that what it seemed to imply to me.


And that's the real problem.  The 99% loathes the 1%, but the 99% continually does everything it can to keep them wealthy.  Support mom and pop stores.  Be more self-sufficient.  Stop insisting on everything being convenient.  Work harder.  Have goals.  Have perseverance.  Nothing is forcing the 1% to stay that rich in a capitalistic society.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 10, 2013, 10:22:43 PM
I gotta a big BBQ pit for 1%ers.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 10, 2013, 10:47:29 PM
Right here? Atleast that what it seemed to imply to me.

I don't mean it that way.  I do think a lot of the 99% supports the 1% despite their protests.  That's all I meant.

You can do a number on the 1% if you refuse to buy their products or do business with them.  It would make life really hard and a pain in the ass, but that was also my point.  Our country doesn't really want to see what would happen if the 1% lost their wealth. 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 12:04:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNO_PnqBLZQ

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/king35.htm
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 11, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
What is your definition of the 1%?  Who, in your opinion, falls in that category?  Is there a specific number for someone's income that puts them there?  $$250K?  $500K  $1,000,000.00?
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 09:30:25 AM
What is your definition of the 1%?  Who, in your opinion, falls in that category?  Is there a specific number for someone's income that puts them there?  $$250K?  $500K  $1,000,000.00?

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The average income of the top 1 percent of US households in 2011 is $1,530,773

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/who-are-the-1-percenters/2011/10/06/gIQAn4JDQL_blog.html

$1,000,000+ per year in annual income could fall into the 1%ers.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: wesfau2 on April 11, 2013, 09:59:46 AM
$1,000,000+ per year in annual income could fall into the 1%ers.

I like to measure them by their keen Apple products.  If you have the Iphone 62, Ipad 18 and a big league brother in law, then, my man, you ARE the 1%.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 10:09:42 AM
I like to measure them by their keen Apple products.  If you have the Iphone 62, Ipad 18 and a big league brother in law, then, my man, you ARE the 1%.

Fuck Apple products. And who has time for a dreaded lawyer anyway?
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OS X 10.8.4 beta suggests 802.11ac is coming soon to a Mac near you

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/04/os-x-10-8-4-beta-reveals-802-11ac-is-coming-soon-to-a-mac-near-you/
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 11, 2013, 10:21:49 AM
I like to measure them by their keen Apple products.  If you have the Iphone 62, Ipad 18 and a big league brother in law, then, my man, you ARE the 1%.

We can only aspire.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: GH2001 on April 11, 2013, 10:54:28 AM
Bullshit. When the shit hits the fan, we will roast their thieving asses over a fire (including those rich cocksuckers in DC) and feed them to the dogs. Don't think for a one minute that they got that rich without stealing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/26/how-1-got-richer-99-poorer

FUCK THEM IN THE ASS!

Are you seriously quoting a UK paper for an objective stance on why capitalism is "bad"?

What happened to hating the English and everything about them?

You are dumber than a bag of hammers.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: GH2001 on April 11, 2013, 11:00:03 AM
I don't mean it that way.  I do think a lot of the 99% supports the 1% despite their protests.  That's all I meant.

You can do a number on the 1% if you refuse to buy their products or do business with them.  It would make life really hard and a pain in the ass, but that was also my point.  Our country doesn't really want to see what would happen if the 1% lost their wealth.

Realistically, there is a 50, 49, and a 1. That bottom 50 is what loathes the 1% and to a lesser extent they also loathe the 49% (middle class for the most part). That bottom 50 are also the ones that create the "you're either in the 1% or you're with us (99%)" line of bull shit. They were also your occupiers. Screw both of them. The middle class are the ones who take it up the ass the most.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Kaos on April 11, 2013, 11:10:08 AM
Kinda disgusting really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIAm0OrRKCI

Yes.   It is.  But not in the way you think. 

No.  You cannot have any of my money.  No, the government cannot have any more to give to you. 

I worked for it.  I made it.  It's mine. 

Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 11:26:32 AM
Yes.   It is.  But not in the way you think. 

No.  You cannot have any of my money.  No, the government cannot have any more to give to you. 

I worked for it.  I made it.  It's mine.
Until the government defaults, and the dollar loses all value. Even your assets are not safe from the bankers and government. There's no place to hide and protect your wealth. Unless, of course, you are Donald "Bad Hairdo" Trump.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 11:27:32 AM
Realistically, there is a 50, 49, and a 1. That bottom 50 is what loathes the 1% and to a lesser extent they also loathe the 49% (middle class for the most part). That bottom 50 are also the ones that create the "you're either in the 1% or you're with us (99%)" line of bull shit. They were also your occupiers. Screw both of them. The middle class are the ones who take it up the ass the most.

Everyone takes it up that ass except the 1%.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Kaos on April 11, 2013, 11:38:27 AM
Until the government defaults, and the dollar loses all value. Even your assets are not safe from the bankers and government. There's no place to hide and protect your wealth. Unless, of course, you are Donald "Bad Hairdo" Trump.

I do not have dollars.  I spend all my money buying pickles.  When the apocalypse comes people will need pickles.  I will trade them for many things. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f3u7dGyPZSs/TaQjqJSqEjI/AAAAAAAAAO0/OtADq0RVZf8/s1600/pickle_jar_588x441.jpg)

This is where my television used to be.  Instead of inane shows, I watch them brine now.  It soothes me.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: djsimp on April 11, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
I do not have dollars.  I spend all my money buying pickles.  When the apocalypse comes people will need pickles.  I will trade them for many things. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f3u7dGyPZSs/TaQjqJSqEjI/AAAAAAAAAO0/OtADq0RVZf8/s1600/pickle_jar_588x441.jpg)

This is where my television used to be.  Instead of inane shows, I watch them brine now.  It soothes me.

I think I will start buying up Bitcoins.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 11, 2013, 12:17:28 PM
Worked with an insurance company for 15 years. I assume I would be labeled as "middle class".  Decent salary, company car, 401K and good health insurance.  Got very tired of taking orders from superiors and knew where I was at in life was never going to change if I stayed in that position.  Saw myself doing the exact same thing 25 years from then.  Decided to cash in everything, all savings, all retirement and go to law school while continuing to work full time.  Made it through and me and another attorney hung out a shingle about 10-11 years ago.

We've been fortunate and blessed.  We've developed a system that has worked and hopefully will continue to do so.  I will tell you that my gross pay averages close to 10X what I was making in my former career.  But...I work for myself and out of my gross pay, I'm taxed well over 40%.  Then, we have to pay our 5 employees.  Then we have an advertising budget well over $100K per year...without which we wouldn't be in business.  Then we pay malpractice insurance, health insurance, SSI, mortgage and insurance on the office and on and on and on.... Haven't worked up the exact figures but I would say I'm not too far off in estimating I keep a good bit less than .20 cents on the dollar.

Am I complaining?  Not in the least.  That's what I signed up for.  But, I'll be damned if I'm going to make the decision to spend 4 plus years of mine and my family's lives sacrificing and cashing in everything I own to try and better ourselves financially and be able to work for myself and make my own decisions......only to have our President tell me "You need to pay your fair share".  And then listen to someone say we need to "distribute the wealth". Have no idea what the actual criteria is for defining someone as Mr. 1%.  Heard our President trying to call people who gross $250K or more "wealthy". I do know my take home says I'm Mr. Middle Class.  But I won't complain until someone starts telling me I don't deserve or am not entitled to what I have and need to do more.

A few years ago, my partner and I found a resignation letter from one of our employees on our desks.  This was totally out of the blue.  We called her in to find out the problem and we were blown away by her answer.  She said she saw us moving into new houses and taking vacations etc.  And since she worked here, she felt she deserved those things too and we should be giving her a 6 figure salary because she worked just as hard as we did.  Awkward moment that turned to laughter...on our part.  We told her to take her ass on to law school and pass the bar.  Buy yourself a building and furnish the entire office for you and the employees you'll have to hire.  Pay their salaries and benefits.  Pay for all the other shit involved and put your ass on the line for everything. EVERYTHING.  And if you're successful enough at it and have enough left over to build you a house and take vacations and do what you want, then good for you.  Until then, fuck off.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 12:33:11 PM
I do not have dollars.  I spend all my money buying pickles.  When the apocalypse comes people will need pickles.  I will trade them for many things. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f3u7dGyPZSs/TaQjqJSqEjI/AAAAAAAAAO0/OtADq0RVZf8/s1600/pickle_jar_588x441.jpg)

This is where my television used to be.  Instead of inane shows, I watch them brine now.  It soothes me.

Wanna trade Bourbon for pickles
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Saniflush on April 11, 2013, 12:48:10 PM
I do not have dollars.  I spend all my money buying pickles.  When the apocalypse comes people will need pickles.  I will trade them for many things. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f3u7dGyPZSs/TaQjqJSqEjI/AAAAAAAAAO0/OtADq0RVZf8/s1600/pickle_jar_588x441.jpg)

This is where my television used to be.  Instead of inane shows, I watch them brine now.  It soothes me.


That's good.  I have been working on me being in Sun God robes, on a pyramid, with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at me.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: dallaswareagle on April 11, 2013, 01:04:04 PM
Worked with an insurance company for 15 years. I assume I would be labeled as "middle class".  Decent salary, company car, 401K and good health insurance.  Got very tired of taking orders from superiors and knew where I was at in life was never going to change if I stayed in that position.  Saw myself doing the exact same thing 25 years from then.  Decided to cash in everything, all savings, all retirement and go to law school while continuing to work full time.  Made it through and me and another attorney hung out a shingle about 10-11 years ago.

We've been fortunate and blessed.  We've developed a system that has worked and hopefully will continue to do so.  I will tell you that my gross pay averages close to 10X what I was making in my former career.  But...I work for myself and out of my gross pay, I'm taxed well over 40%.  Then, we have to pay our 5 employees.  Then we have an advertising budget well over $100K per year...without which we wouldn't be in business.  Then we pay malpractice insurance, health insurance, SSI, mortgage and insurance on the office and on and on and on.... Haven't worked up the exact figures but I would say I'm not too far off in estimating I keep a good bit less than .20 cents on the dollar.

Am I complaining?  Not in the least.  That's what I signed up for.  But, I'll be damned if I'm going to make the decision to spend 4 plus years of mine and my family's lives sacrificing and cashing in everything I own to try and better ourselves financially and be able to work for myself and make my own decisions......only to have our President tell me "You need to pay your fair share".  And then listen to someone say we need to "distribute the wealth". Have no idea what the actual criteria is for defining someone as Mr. 1%.  Heard our President trying to call people who gross $250K or more "wealthy". I do know my take home says I'm Mr. Middle Class.  But I won't complain until someone starts telling me I don't deserve or am not entitled to what I have and need to do more.

A few years ago, my partner and I found a resignation letter from one of our employees on our desks.  This was totally out of the blue.  We called her in to find out the problem and we were blown away by her answer.  She said she saw us moving into new houses and taking vacations etc.  And since she worked here, she felt she deserved those things too and we should be giving her a 6 figure salary because she worked just as hard as we did.  Awkward moment that turned to laughter...on our part.  We told her to take her ass on to law school and pass the bar.  Buy yourself a building and furnish the entire office for you and the employees you'll have to hire.  Pay their salaries and benefits.  Pay for all the other shit involved and put your ass on the line for everything. EVERYTHING.  And if you're successful enough at it and have enough left over to build you a house and take vacations and do what you want, then good for you.  Until then, fuck off.


Middle Class doesn't look like it use to.

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/5.jpg)
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 01:12:25 PM
Worked with an insurance company for 15 years. I assume I would be labeled as "middle class".  Decent salary, company car, 401K and good health insurance.  Got very tired of taking orders from superiors and knew where I was at in life was never going to change if I stayed in that position.  Saw myself doing the exact same thing 25 years from then.  Decided to cash in everything, all savings, all retirement and go to law school while continuing to work full time.  Made it through and me and another attorney hung out a shingle about 10-11 years ago.

We've been fortunate and blessed.  We've developed a system that has worked and hopefully will continue to do so.  I will tell you that my gross pay averages close to 10X what I was making in my former career.  But...I work for myself and out of my gross pay, I'm taxed well over 40%.  Then, we have to pay our 5 employees.  Then we have an advertising budget well over $100K per year...without which we wouldn't be in business.  Then we pay malpractice insurance, health insurance, SSI, mortgage and insurance on the office and on and on and on.... Haven't worked up the exact figures but I would say I'm not too far off in estimating I keep a good bit less than .20 cents on the dollar.

Am I complaining?  Not in the least.  That's what I signed up for.  But, I'll be damned if I'm going to make the decision to spend 4 plus years of mine and my family's lives sacrificing and cashing in everything I own to try and better ourselves financially and be able to work for myself and make my own decisions......only to have our President tell me "You need to pay your fair share".  And then listen to someone say we need to "distribute the wealth". Have no idea what the actual criteria is for defining someone as Mr. 1%.  Heard our President trying to call people who gross $250K or more "wealthy". I do know my take home says I'm Mr. Middle Class.  But I won't complain until someone starts telling me I don't deserve or am not entitled to what I have and need to do more.

A few years ago, my partner and I found a resignation letter from one of our employees on our desks.  This was totally out of the blue.  We called her in to find out the problem and we were blown away by her answer.  She said she saw us moving into new houses and taking vacations etc.  And since she worked here, she felt she deserved those things too and we should be giving her a 6 figure salary because she worked just as hard as we did.  Awkward moment that turned to laughter...on our part.  We told her to take her ass on to law school and pass the bar.  Buy yourself a building and furnish the entire office for you and the employees you'll have to hire.  Pay their salaries and benefits.  Pay for all the other shit involved and put your ass on the line for everything. EVERYTHING.  And if you're successful enough at it and have enough left over to build you a house and take vacations and do what you want, then good for you.  Until then, fuck off.

Good luck with your venture. And, you deserve every bit of what you earn as does everyone else who works hard and builds their own business. My main problem is with the banks and the bailouts. What the bailouts did was shore up the stocks and bottom line of the banks and it's investors. Bad risks were rewarded in a socialist manner starting with Bush's bailouts (TARP) via Paulson. Now that's what I call socialism.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fy1Udb0ry4
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 11, 2013, 01:24:11 PM

Middle Class doesn't look like it use to.

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/5.jpg)

You can't hide money
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUTiger1 on April 11, 2013, 01:37:51 PM
Fuck it, when everything collapses, I am heading to the farm as hard as I can go.  Plenty of fish, deer, turkey, ducks, geese, a few cows and guns.  Plenty of guns.   
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: djsimp on April 11, 2013, 01:45:55 PM
You can't hide money

No, but its pretty easy to hide the little birdie.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: dallaswareagle on April 11, 2013, 02:14:24 PM
You can't hide money

Or lack of rhythm. 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUownsU on April 11, 2013, 04:45:28 PM
Yes.   It is.  But not in the way you think. 

No.  You cannot have any of my money.  No, the government cannot have any more to give to you. 

I worked for it.  I made it.  It's mine.
Keep your money. What I want is the reestablishment taxes and tariffs on imports in this country. That way Mr. 1% won't be outsourcing his jobs to China for $.50 hour labor. In return this will create jobs in here, not over across the seas. That happens and we can get these stagnant wages moving again which would be a huge relief for the middle class. Lots of whom haven't seen a solid wage increase in the last 10 years or so.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUownsU on April 11, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
I don't mean it that way.  I do think a lot of the 99% supports the 1% despite their protests.  That's all I meant.

You can do a number on the 1% if you refuse to buy their products or do business with them.  It would make life really hard and a pain in the ass, but that was also my point.  Our country doesn't really want to see what would happen if the 1% lost their wealth.
I agree the 1% doesn't need to lose their wealth but its long past time to riegn their ass back in a little.

Another interesting read on wealth distribution for those that have time.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3629
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 11, 2013, 05:08:53 PM
Keep your money. What I want is the reestablishment taxes and tariffs on imports in this country. That way Mr. 1% won't be outsourcing his jobs to China for $.50 hour labor. In return this will create jobs in here, not over across the seas. That happens and we can get these stagnant wages moving again which would be a huge relief for the middle class. Lots of whom haven't seen a solid wage increase in the last 10 years or so.

Fucking this^^^

Went fishing last weekend.  Just pan fishing but I bought a couple of new poles.  The Crappie Slapper XT4000.  Was getting it tackled up and noticed "Made in China".  Really?  Srrsly?  Do we make anything here in this country anymore? 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Vandy Vol on April 11, 2013, 05:44:26 PM
Went fishing last weekend.  Just pan fishing but I bought a couple of new poles.  The Crappie Slapper XT4000.  Was getting it tackled up and noticed "Made in China".  Really?  Srrsly?  Do we make anything here in this country anymore?

I'm sending in my resignation letter as your private dancer, unless you begin to pay me enough so that I can go fishing on the weekends.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: GH2001 on April 11, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
Everyone takes it up that ass except the 1%.

Sure. That 47% that pays no income tax really gets fucked by the IRS. 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Vandy Vol on April 11, 2013, 06:18:21 PM
Sure. That 47% that pays no income tax really gets fucked by the IRS.

I'd be interested to know whether that stat includes people who file a return reporting no tax owed, but then get audited and end up having taxes assessed at a later date.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: GH2001 on April 11, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
Keep your money. What I want is the reestablishment taxes and tariffs on imports in this country. That way Mr. 1% won't be outsourcing his jobs to China for $.50 hour labor. In return this will create jobs in here, not over across the seas. That happens and we can get these stagnant wages moving again which would be a huge relief for the middle class. Lots of whom haven't seen a solid wage increase in the last 10 years or so.

Yeah. That's exactly why all jobs get outsourced. How about you mention unions making the cost of business off the charts.  Then it's either: outsource or fold up. 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: GH2001 on April 11, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
I'd be interested to know whether that stat includes people who file a return reporting no tax owed, but then get audited and end up having taxes assessed at a later date.
After its all said and done. Point to the village tinfoil hat wearer was that the middle class are the only ones getting truly fucked. The Rich have loopholes. The bottom 47% pay nothing. 
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 06:45:08 PM
So, you are saying income taxes paid by the bottom 47% is null? I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 06:46:53 PM
Yeah. That's exactly why all jobs get outsourced. How about you mention unions making the cost of business off the charts.  Then it's either: outsource or fold up.

Blame to union bosses and not the union membership. Union members are only folks trying to make a better lives for themselves, outside of the wretched slavery conditions known as the southern workplace.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Vandy Vol on April 11, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
After its all said and done. Point to the village tinfoil hat wearer was that the middle class are the only ones getting truly fucked. The Rich have loopholes. The bottom 47% pay nothing.

Where does that percentage come from?  I see stats which say that 46% and 51% of households in 2011 and 2009, respectively, didn't owe taxes, but I don't see any references which indicate it's the bottom 46% or 51% of households who didn't owe taxes.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: DnATL on April 11, 2013, 06:52:23 PM
Do we make anything here in this country anymore?

Meff?
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: djsimp on April 11, 2013, 08:12:06 PM
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Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 11, 2013, 08:14:46 PM
Keep your money. What I want is the reestablishment taxes and tariffs on imports in this country. That way Mr. 1% won't be outsourcing his jobs to China for $.50 hour labor. In return this will create jobs in here, not over across the seas. That happens and we can get these stagnant wages moving again which would be a huge relief for the middle class. Lots of whom haven't seen a solid wage increase in the last 10 years or so.
Goods won't be as cheap as they are now.  Standard of living will decrease.  Is America really ready for that?
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 08:18:14 PM
Goods won't be as cheap as they are now.  Standard of living will decrease.  Is America really ready for that?

That's total bullshit right there. What you mean to say is corporate profits won't be as high because they'll be forced to pay a living wage and bennies.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: AUownsU on April 11, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
Goods won't be as cheap as they are now.  Standard of living will decrease.  Is America really ready for that?
What you describe seems to be whats happened now that we moved to a "global economy." And it seemed to work pretty good the last 100 years old so.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 11, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
What you describe seems to be whats happened now that we moved to a "global economy." And it seemed to work pretty good the last 100 years old so.

we didn't outsource 100 years ago, however in the last 60 years yes. Since WWII, there has been a concerted effort to send good jobs overseas chasing cheap labor. I hope God damns all of those greedy fucking bastards to the lake of fire for eternity.
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 12, 2013, 10:03:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGBpFscDzX4

Good luck in the future because luck has everything to do with making it big.

http://lewrockwell.com/bonner/bonner587.html

The 1% are bailing US stocks and bonds while banks and the Federal Reserve are purchasing US stocks and bonds.

http://lewrockwell.com/faber/faber156.html
Title: Re: Hello Mr. 1%
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 14, 2013, 12:45:39 PM
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Studies have shown that the co-ops have consistently outperformed surrounding capitalist industry on all the usual measures, and while unemployment in Spain has hovered around 20% for many years, full employment has been maintained within the Federation. All this has been achieved with a level of internal democracy and concern for social justice undreamt of by most workers struggling under exploitative state systems, whether capitalist or authoritarian socialist.

Not surprisingly, international interest in the MCF has grown over the past 20 years, especially now that so many governments are unable to provide even for basic human needs food, shelter, education, healthcare, art and recreation — and are increasingly recognised as uninterested in doing so. (As anarchists have long pointed out, that is not what governments are for, after all.) There is a sizeable literature in several languages on Mondragon. Harvard business students study management within the Mondragon co-ops. Stanford law students learn about the legal obstacles to setting up such entities in the USA Enlightened Australian trade unionists consider whether using union funds to start “mini-Mondragons” for their unemployed members might be more effective than filling politicians’ pockets in the vain hope of slowing corporate job export to non-union, low-wage, third world countries. And some anarchists wonder if the MCF is a test, or even a vindication, of their ideas.

http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/mike-long-the-mondragon-co-operative-federation-a-model-for-our-times