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Title: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 06, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
Great day for it!  Pics later.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 06, 2013, 10:56:24 AM
Great day for it!  Pics later.

tl;dr
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 06, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Pics hell, I want video and popcorn. If human euthanasia was legal, Selena Roberts would be a non issue right now.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: jmar on April 06, 2013, 11:14:50 AM
Pics hell, I want video and popcorn. If human euthanasia was legal, Selena Roberts would be a non issue right now.
All I want to know is this: Will there be blood?
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 06, 2013, 11:15:59 AM
All I want to know is this: Will there be blood?

Carbon Monoxide poisoning is usually bloodless.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: jmar on April 06, 2013, 11:24:13 AM
Carbon Monoxide poisoning is usually bloodless.
Check but I'm talking about this little scrimage Auburn is putting on that is closed to the public.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 06, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
Check but I'm talking about this little scrimage Auburn is putting on that is closed to the public.

One can only hope there will be blood.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: AUChizad on April 06, 2013, 11:33:55 AM
Check but I'm talking about this little scrimage Auburn is putting on that is closed to the public.
:bugs:
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: jmar on April 06, 2013, 11:38:24 AM
One can only hope there will be blood.
And entrails.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 06, 2013, 12:32:37 PM
And entrails.
Only in this year's Iron Bowl will we see such things, and then, only the inbred innards will be seen.

EJ's words to that affect: We gon' work on tackling today.

http://youtu.be/6v0EgYMdDlU
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 06, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
The thing that I like most about Coach Johnson is that he shoots it straight in interviews. Him saying that we are physically in condition for the scrimmage makes me feel like we must have made some big improvements.

 I have to believe we will be better on D. Pretty sure we won't be stat leaders but if we can make tackles and get takeaways we will be o.k.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: jmar on April 06, 2013, 05:07:08 PM
The thing that I like most about Coach Johnson is that he shoots it straight in interviews. Him saying that we are physically in condition for the scrimmage makes me feel like we must have made some big improvements.

 I have to believe we will be better on D. Pretty sure we won't be stat leaders but if we can make tackles and get takeaways we will be o.k.
We suck!
The only way this crew is in shape is if they legitimately worked out and ran independently the moment Chizik was released. The lethargic effort and quit is not something that will go away quickly. I don't need the staff to make a believer out of me. It will show on the field in the first game with a complete team effort.
We should be nastier up front on both sides of the ball with the mentality this staff brings and I expect us to score some points with this system but what I really want to see is fight from start to finish, something we aren't used to seeing in recent years and what Auburn always represented even when they were outgunned previous to the MNC and truly several years prior to that even.
 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 06, 2013, 09:15:11 PM
We suck!
The only way this crew is in shape is if they legitimately worked out and ran independently the moment Chizik was released. The lethargic effort and quit is not something that will go away quickly. I don't need the staff to make a believer out of me. It will show on the field in the first game with a complete team effort.
We should be nastier up front on both sides of the ball with the mentality this staff brings and I expect us to score some points with this system but what I really want to see is fight from start to finish, something we aren't used to seeing in recent years and what Auburn always represented even when they were outgunned previous to the MNC and truly several years prior to that even.


This.  We'll be better but total suck doesn't wash off easily.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 06, 2013, 09:54:29 PM

This.  We'll be better but total suck doesn't wash off easily.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Gax51cV8L._SL500_SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 06, 2013, 09:57:13 PM

http://youtu.be/6v0EgYMdDlU

I think I just fell in love with this guy.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 06, 2013, 10:15:30 PM

This.  We'll be better but total suck doesn't wash off easily.
Well, yeah. This is what I'm expecting and have expected since Gus was named but I'm still thinking we can outscore SOME teams that we are not supposed to. Did you go to the scrimmage? If so, give us some detail. At least tackling has to be better, right? And I know we still suck at QB but they've still got a while till fall.

Now, if we still look fat on the line and LB's and DB's are doing the two hand ole, Imma b pist.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 06, 2013, 10:19:42 PM
Where are the pics? 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: chinook on April 06, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
Where are the pics?

He's waiting for War Eagle!!! to post them.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 06, 2013, 11:22:31 PM
Where are the pics?

A few...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_1100551_zpsc4b5a149.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_104836_zps6802b28c.jpg)

THE MAN! Jake Holland!

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_094037_zpsa9d60df9.jpg)

Long Snapper Porn for Snags.

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_093920_zpse3a47c76.jpg)
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 06, 2013, 11:25:40 PM
Ellis Johnson

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_094010_zps8c4ae1f3.jpg)

QBs

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_092347_zpsd913668e.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_091136_zps4c9f9c9c.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_090328_zps9f3eae48.jpg)
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 06, 2013, 11:27:48 PM
A. Blackson is a big fucker!

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_093907_zps6defef55.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130406_093847_zpsb7547d1e.jpg)
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 06, 2013, 11:30:49 PM
Friday Practice pics...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130405_091255_zps85fb0c38.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/jransom40/20130405_085840_zps4d88d60d.jpg)

Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 06, 2013, 11:32:17 PM
Those pics kind of made me sad.  The names on the back of those jerseys have brought me nothing but football pain.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 07, 2013, 12:01:36 AM
Those pics kind of made me sad.  The names on the back of those jerseys have brought me nothing but football pain.

You apparently missed the pic of LO.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 12:01:47 AM
My opinion of what I saw...

We don't have any SEC level DTs.  I spoke to a HS coach from So. Car. who has worked for Ellis Johnson before.  He was at USCe's practice last week, and says none of our DTs look like they could start there.  Said Whitaker looked "dumpy and unathletic". 

DEs might be ok, but not great due to no DTs. 

LBs   :facepalm:

DBs might be, MIGHT be average. 

Bottom line for Defense: We don't have a soul on that side of the ball that strikes fear in the heart of any SEC team.  No play makers. 

Offense:  We don't have a QB on campus.  Wallace ran with what appeared to be the 1st team.  The OL that ran as the first team (Orange team) consisted of (L to R) Robinson, Kozan, Dismukes, Slade, Miller.   Shon Coleman ran with the second team (Blue) at LT.  I believe Fariyake Young and Diamond were in this group too.

OL is TALL!  But lean.  Avery Young is a big fucker, and Dismukes is solid too.  Miller looks more like a TE than a RT.  This group, IMO, will mature well, though it will take a year or 2.  This year may be average or less, next year good, and in 2 years this group could produce a dominate OL much like 2010s. 

We have some nice looking WRs, but all unproven as y'all know. 

We don't have a real RB.  Mason is hurt right now, but not big enough to carry the ball 25 times a game.  I didn't see a stud among the bunch. 

Prosch is a stud for a FB, and can do everything you'd ask of a FB/HBack/TE.  He has nice hands (made a pretty one hand catch on a wheel route) and he gives 100% effort every play, and ever rep in practice. 

Fulse and Uzomah are both huge TEs.  HUGE!  They line up wide alot right now.   

Neither QB looked very good to me.  Wallace's motion looks funky at times, like he's aiming the ball.  Frazier missed a wide open corner route to Uzomah that should have been a TD. 

Any success the offense had today, likely due to the defense sucking. 

Practice for now is nothing but going fast, and trying to regain that tough edge.  They move fast, never walk, and they hit.  Scheme is secondary for now.  They only have in a hand full of plays on offense (4 base runs, and PAP off each), and a few coverages/calls on defense.  I talked to Kodi Burns last night for a bit, and he said that their progression is learning to go fast first, getting tough and in shape, then adding scheme a bit at a time.  Also reminded me that they don't do a whole lot, they try to get good at a few concepts, go fast, and disguise it with formations, shifts, and motions. 

JMO, YMMV...if we break .500, it will be a good job all the way around. 

Caveat: they're only 6 practices in with the new staff, and one scrimmage in.   Much of my opinion is based on just not seeing any "players" on the field.  Some of the ones that do look like players have either proven they're not (Holland) or have yet to prove anything at all (Pick a WR). 

Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 12:02:41 AM
Those pics kind of made me sad.  The names on the back of those jerseys have brought me nothing but football pain.

Prepare for another year of it.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: The Prowler on April 07, 2013, 02:48:42 AM
Don't sleep on Artis-Payne, IMO he'll be the man at RB. He might not be the starter in the first two games but he'll be the starter before the midpoint of the season.

Also, if our OL is average, we'll win 6-7 games, because that'll mean that they're better than last year's OL. A better OL usually means a better backfield, including the QB position...and don't be surprised if Nick Marshall takes the starting QB position once he gets there.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 07, 2013, 07:52:34 AM

Caveat: they're only 6 practices in with the new staff,
Hopefully, this is the main reason for your expectation. Gus will make an adequate qb out of one of our guys. After Todd, I'm convinced of that. But I know we have our issues.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 08:18:10 AM
Don't sleep on Artis-Payne, IMO he'll be the man at RB. He might not be the starter in the first two games but he'll be the starter before the midpoint of the season.

Also, if our OL is average, we'll win 6-7 games, because that'll mean that they're better than last year's OL. A better OL usually means a better backfield, including the QB position...and don't be surprised if Nick Marshall takes the starting QB position once he gets there.

I saw Artis-Payne, and wasn't unimpressed, just thought he'd be a bigger back.  I had thought he'd come in a get some playing time. 

I'll be shocked if Marshall isn't the starting QB by the end of week one of fall camp.

If...IF the OL is serviceable, then we'll score some points, but we're currently very limited by QB play.  I just don't think the Def. can stop anybody.  Granted the QB play may get much better with more work than just 6 practices.

If Marshall comes in and gets the job then that might change my opinion.  I don't recall seeing the JUCO DT, Bradley either, or maybe his jersey number is different from what's listed.  If we find a QB, and someone that can cause trouble in the middle of the defense, then that will make a huge difference.  I still stand by the statement that we don't have anybody that strikes fear in anybody's heart on Defense, and without a QB to make them, we don't have any play-makers on offense either, though we have a couple of nice looking WRs is someone can get them the ball. 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 08:20:25 AM
Hopefully, this is the main reason for your expectation. Gus will make an adequate qb out of one of our guys. After Todd, I'm convinced of that. But I know we have our issues.

Gus is the head man, and he directs how things go, but he is the HC, not the QB coach.  Lashlee is coaching the QBs. 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 07, 2013, 08:33:27 AM
Gus is the head man, and he directs how things go, but he is the HC, not the QB coach.  Lashlee is coaching the QBs.
Yeah, I know. But you  know, seeing as how Gus coached Todd and all.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 08:50:32 AM
Yeah, I know. But you  know, seeing as how Gus coached Todd and all.

I agree, he did a great job with Todd.  Some of that was coaching, some was Todd's shoulder injury healing.  I think Lashlee can do just as good a job as well.  I know they are saying the right things about how they want to coach (at every position), and about what they want to accomplish.  Now, if they can translate that on to the field, it will be good.  I don't expect overnight miracles, or expect them to turn chicken shit in to chicken salad either.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: CCTAU on April 07, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
You apparently missed the pic of LO.
OMGurtness! When I saw that pic of LO behind Holland, I lost my breath. Can you imagine being a Lineman knowing that had a running start against you? I so hope he explodes this season.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: CCTAU on April 07, 2013, 09:28:08 AM
I agree, he did a great job with Todd.  Some of that was coaching, some was Todd's shoulder injury healing.  I think Lashlee can do just as good a job as well.  I know they are saying the right things about how they want to coach (at every position), and about what they want to accomplish.  Now, if they can translate that on to the field, it will be good.  I don't expect overnight miracles, or expect them to turn chicken shit in to chicken salad either.

That was mostly Todd's shoulder healing. Todd was a student of the game. Word was that he lived in the film room while the others lived it up. Even the year his shoulder was shot, he made good decisions. He just could not deliver the ball. He was a rare talent that the average fan had no clue about. Another healthy year and his records may not have been caught for a while.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 09:35:00 AM
That was mostly Todd's shoulder healing. Todd was a student of the game. Word was that he lived in the film room while the others lived it up. Even the year his shoulder was shot, he made good decisions. He just could not deliver the ball. He was a rare talent that the average fan had no clue about. Another healthy year and his records may not have been caught for a while.

Yep.  Still, he took the coaching too, which made his work ethic and hours in the film room pay off. 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 07, 2013, 10:00:46 AM
OMGurtness! When I saw that pic of LO behind Holland, I lost my breath. Can you imagine being a Lineman knowing that had a running start against you? I so hope he explodes this season.

Yes. This is why I am very excited about having LB's that have size and speed. Without looking it up, I think the last time this size of LB was playing for AU was back when Dansby was around.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 07, 2013, 11:23:58 AM
That was mostly Todd's shoulder healing. Todd was a student of the game. Word was that he lived in the film room while the others lived it up. Even the year his shoulder was shot, he made good decisions. He just could not deliver the ball. He was a rare talent that the average fan had no clue about. Another healthy year and his records may not have been caught for a while.
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I was under the impression that his shoulder was still hurt during the season, at least I heard that. I don't remember many deep balls.

Anyone know of where and what Todd is up to these days?
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: jmar on April 07, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
Prepare for another year of it.
Can't say I didn't halfway expect us to be hovering along the bottom of the West just hoping for overall improvement.
Thanks JR for catching us up, adding the pics and your opinion of how we stand.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: JR4AU on April 07, 2013, 10:34:37 PM
Can't say I didn't halfway expect us to be hovering along the bottom of the West just hoping for overall improvement.
Thanks JR for catching us up, adding the pics and your opinion of how we stand.

My opinion is worth about what you paid for it.  It's just my opinion, and part of me hopes I'm wrong as hell. 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 08, 2013, 08:42:07 AM
My opinion is worth about what you paid for it.  It's just my opinion, and part of me hopes I'm wrong as hell.
All of me hopes you are wrong but I would bet you aren't. Really, I haven't elevated my expects to the level some of my friends have. My main thing is that we still don't have a qB.

"Yeah, but look what Gus did with Todd," is what I hear next. As discussed earlier, Todd was special, at least we think. We have a lot of work to do. It would be nuts to think we could contend for the west this year anyway.

Truth be known, this year I just want to be in it in the 4th. You know, just having a chance to win it in the 4th against our rivals is a good step for me this yr.

Maybe, just maybe, some players emerge before the last half of the season that can help us reach the tipping point. And, thanks for the pics JR.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 08, 2013, 11:54:48 AM
Don't sleep on Artis-Payne, IMO he'll be the man at RB. He might not be the starter in the first two games but he'll be the starter before the midpoint of the season.

Also, if our OL is average, we'll win 6-7 games, because that'll mean that they're better than last year's OL. A better OL usually means a better backfield, including the QB position...and don't be surprised if Nick Marshall takes the starting QB position once he gets there.
Listen I love the enthusiasm you bring, I used to have it. Last 2 years have sucked it out of me...we were at the pinacle and that should have stepped us forward into being a top ten perennial powerhouse.  Instead we took 50 steps back.

I just don't see 6-7 wins on our schedule? At most 6 but quite honestly I don't think we will beat Arkansas, and I think we will struggle with Arkansas State and Tennessee.


08/31/13      Washington State Cougars -Jordan-Hare Stadium -Fence
09/07/13      Arkansas State Red Wolves -Jordan-Hare Stadium -Fence
09/14/13      Mississippi State Bulldogs -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
09/21/13      at LSU Tigers -Tiger Stadium -L
09/28/13   ---   Open Date   ---   ---
10/05/13      Ole Miss Rebels -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
10/12/13      Western Carolina Catamounts -Jordan-Hare Stadium -W
10/19/13      at Texas A&M Aggies -Kyle Field -L
10/26/13      Florida Atlantic Owls -Jordan-Hare Stadium -W
11/02/13      at Arkansas Razorbacks -D.W.R. Razorback Stadium -Fence lean towards L
11/09/13      at Tennessee Volunteers -Neyland Stadium -Fence
11/16/13      Georgia Bulldogs -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
11/30/13      Alabama Crimson Tide -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 08, 2013, 11:59:09 AM
That was mostly Todd's shoulder healing. Todd was a student of the game. Word was that he lived in the film room while the others lived it up. Even the year his shoulder was shot, he made good decisions. He just could not deliver the ball. He was a rare talent that the average fan had no clue about. Another healthy year and his records may not have been caught for a while.
I agree...I still stand by my Bet that Kiehl Frazier will not play another meaningful snap at QB.

One of my biggest problems with Gus's offense is that I think the QB has to be very smart....Kiehl= Auburn man..yes...smart not so much.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 08, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
I too am sipping lightly on the orange and blue Kool-Ade, but like GF, just the memories of how incredibly bad we were makes me so cautious about having any real enthusiasm.  I still go back to my key that I've said several times.

This team flat out quit in several games in 2011 and totally mailed it in the last half of this past season.  Unfortunately, they had quit at the worst possible time having to end the season with a stretch of games against some of the best teams in the country.  Result...some of the ugliest losses in Auburn history.  So the question is whether this new staff is instilling toughness back into these guys and are they trying to establish some leaders on this team.

CGM's system will put points on the board as long as someone steps up at QB to run it at least somewhat effectively.  I really believe that in itself will put a charge in the whole team.  Not only was the defense bad last year, they also had nothing to play for, except pride and that went out the window a long time ago.  The offense was a 3 and out machine last year.  Consequently, by year's end, the D was just going through the motions and playing out the string.  And Texas A&M, Georgia and Bama took full advantage of it. 
 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 08, 2013, 12:17:54 PM
I agree...I still stand by my Bet that Kiehl Frazier will not play another meaningful snap at QB.

One of my biggest problems with Gus's offense is that I think the QB has to be very smart....Kiehl= Auburn man..yes...smart not so much.
RACIST COMMENT IN BOLD!!! And you probably don't like Obama either. But seriously though, it may be more of a lacking of the ability to process quickly enough. In other words, he may be a smart dude for all I know, but he can't seem to do what it takes to get us in right play and/or choose the right receiver.

Gus said he was the best QB in the nation coming out of HS. Did he mean it? I dunno. But, I am like you about the meaningful snaps. It will really, really surprise me--mainly based on who we have coming in.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 08, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
RACIST COMMENT IN BOLD!!! And you probably don't like Obama either. But seriously though, it may be more of a lacking of the ability to process quickly enough. In other words, he may be a smart dude for all I know, but he can't seem to do what it takes to get us in right play and/or choose the right receiver.

Gus said he was the best QB in the nation coming out of HS. Did he mean it? I dunno. But, I am like you about the meaningful snaps. It will really, really surprise me--mainly based on who we have coming in.

We won't be expected to do anything this season, and rightfully so.  I'm of the opinion that if Wallace really catches on or either Johnson or Marshall can adequately run the offense, let em' have it and build for the future.  Kalil doesn't look to be our future IMO.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 08, 2013, 12:34:35 PM
We won't be expected to do anything this season, and rightfully so.  I'm of the opinion that if Wallace really catches on or either Johnson or Marshall can adequately run the offense, let em' have it and build for the future.  Kalil doesn't look to be our future IMO.
Agree for the most part, I think. I want to win as many games as we can but I realize that we won't contend this year--so, I think the best investment for the future is pt for the future qb's. It's a balancing act.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: GH2001 on April 08, 2013, 12:35:29 PM
Listen I love the enthusiasm you bring, I used to have it. Last 2 years have sucked it out of me...we were at the pinacle and that should have stepped us forward into being a top ten perennial powerhouse.  Instead we took 50 steps back.

I just don't see 6-7 wins on our schedule? At most 6 but quite honestly I don't think we will beat Arkansas, and I think we will struggle with Arkansas State and Tennessee.


08/31/13      Washington State Cougars -Jordan-Hare Stadium -Fence
09/07/13      Arkansas State Red Wolves -Jordan-Hare Stadium -Fence
09/14/13      Mississippi State Bulldogs -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
09/21/13      at LSU Tigers -Tiger Stadium -L
09/28/13   ---   Open Date   ---   ---
10/05/13      Ole Miss Rebels -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
10/12/13      Western Carolina Catamounts -Jordan-Hare Stadium -W
10/19/13      at Texas A&M Aggies -Kyle Field -L
10/26/13      Florida Atlantic Owls -Jordan-Hare Stadium -W
11/02/13      at Arkansas Razorbacks -D.W.R. Razorback Stadium -Fence lean towards L
11/09/13      at Tennessee Volunteers -Neyland Stadium -Fence
11/16/13      Georgia Bulldogs -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
11/30/13      Alabama Crimson Tide -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L

And I don't think you're being pessimistic at all. It's called being realistic. Last couple of years we failed to see obvious signs of fail in the program and were overly optimistic. I too expect the worst this year and will be pleasantly surprised if we win more than 6. This will take a couple of years to fully fix.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: AUChizad on April 08, 2013, 01:18:09 PM
Listen I love the enthusiasm you bring, I used to have it. Last 2 years have sucked it out of me...we were at the pinacle and that should have stepped us forward into being a top ten perennial powerhouse.  Instead we took 50 steps back.

I just don't see 6-7 wins on our schedule? At most 6 but quite honestly I don't think we will beat Arkansas, and I think we will struggle with Arkansas State and Tennessee.


08/31/13      Washington State Cougars -Jordan-Hare Stadium -Fence
09/07/13      Arkansas State Red Wolves -Jordan-Hare Stadium -Fence
09/14/13      Mississippi State Bulldogs -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
09/21/13      at LSU Tigers -Tiger Stadium -L
09/28/13   ---   Open Date   ---   ---
10/05/13      Ole Miss Rebels -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
10/12/13      Western Carolina Catamounts -Jordan-Hare Stadium -W
10/19/13      at Texas A&M Aggies -Kyle Field -L
10/26/13      Florida Atlantic Owls -Jordan-Hare Stadium -W
11/02/13      at Arkansas Razorbacks -D.W.R. Razorback Stadium -Fence lean towards L
11/09/13      at Tennessee Volunteers -Neyland Stadium -Fence
11/16/13      Georgia Bulldogs -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
11/30/13      Alabama Crimson Tide -Jordan-Hare Stadium -L
Care to wager on whether or not we go over .500?

I think we do.

Your assessment above is basically assuming we're the same team as last year.

I don't think we are. I could be wrong, but I by no means think Ole Miss & MSU are automatic L's. Not yet, at least.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: The Six on April 08, 2013, 01:39:06 PM
Care to wager on whether or not we go over .500?

I think we do.

Your assessment above is basically assuming we're the same team as last year.

I don't think we are. I could be wrong, but I by no means think Ole Miss & MSU are automatic L's. Not yet, at least.

GF, I agree with most of what you have except MissStake. I don't think they have much more in the tank than we do. I'd lean towards W on that one.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 08, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
Care to wager on whether or not we go over .500?

I think we do.

Your assessment above is basically assuming we're the same team as last year.

I don't think we are. I could be wrong, but I by no means think Ole Miss & MSU are automatic L's. Not yet, at least.
I think 7-5 is a legit possibility with 8 being a stretch. At the same time, .500 is a legit possibility. I would not bet large either way, however, I will bet large on the A Day game if I get AU.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 08, 2013, 02:18:43 PM
I think 7-5 is a legit possibility with 8 being a stretch. At the same time, .500 is a legit possibility. I would not bet large either way, however, I will bet large on the A Day game if I get AU.

No way we win that one.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 08, 2013, 02:25:42 PM
No way we win that one.
Put your money where your mouth is. Well, depending on where your mouth is right now.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: AUChizad on April 08, 2013, 02:38:24 PM
I just don't see 6-7 wins on our schedule? At most 6 but quite honestly I don't think we will beat Arkansas, and I think we will struggle with Arkansas State and Tennessee.
I guess I think .500 is our basement, whereas it appears to be your ceiling.

So let's say .500 is a push.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 08, 2013, 03:02:34 PM
Barring offseason attrition, I think we'll be better.

We WILL be better at quarterback.  I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback situation as bad as we had last year.  Malzahn has always improved the quarterback play no matter where he's gone.  Even in 2011, we had light years better quarterbacking than we did last year. 

Therefore, I believe we'll be better at quarterback.

Also, the playcalling last year was atrocious.  It never made sense.  It lacked a gameplan, lacked aggression, and lacked general common sense.

Malzahn will call much better games.  He'll get the ball in Tre Mason's hands.  He'll call quick screens and outs and in and all the other fast plays he runs to keep the defense on their heels.  Our offense may not be that much improved, but it will be able to score a few points.  Maybe only 20, but I think that'll be enough to win 6 games.

Defensively, Ellis Johnson brings in a wealth of experience, and if Owens and Frost can be mediocre, we'll be better than that putrid bullshit we saw last season with Holland playing every down all year.  All we need on defense is guys that can tackle.  Gene Chizik is gone.  Auburn has ALWAYS tackled well, and the only time Auburn has not tackled well was when Chizik was head coach.

We'll tackle better.  We'll be better on offense.  We'll have more discipline and direction and perseverance.  We'll beat those that we absolutely should: Wash State, Ark State, Western Carolina, and Florida Atlantic. 

We'll beat at least one of the Mississippi schools, and we'll beat Arkansas or Tennessee. 

Considering how bad Arkansas and Tennessee were last year and how much they lost, I have high hopes we can beat both. 

6-6, 7-5.  Maybe an easy draw in the bowl game to gain momentum for 2014. 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 08, 2013, 03:17:32 PM
I see 8 wins, with a possibility of 9, and that's being conservative.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 08, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
Care to wager on whether or not we go over .500?

I think we do.

Your assessment above is basically assuming we're the same team as last year.

I don't think we are. I could be wrong, but I by no means think Ole Miss & MSU are automatic L's. Not yet, at least.
Your assumption is that we aren't.

In actuality I don't think we will be the same team as last year, I think we win more than 3.

I won't bet on it because I hope I am wrong. I have never hoped more.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 08, 2013, 03:33:58 PM
I see 8 wins, with a possibility of 9, and that's being conservative.
You really need to stop sniffing the kitty litter.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 08, 2013, 03:37:17 PM
You really need to stop sniffing the kitty litter.

Don't knock it till you've tried it. Its some good shit.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 08, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
That's spice to know nothings. Apparently there have been shifts in the line as of late.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2013/04/auburns_interior_line_shuffle.html

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"We've seen some flashes the last few days of things we like when (Kozan) plays some guard and some center," offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said. "We've got a bunch of those guys at the internal spots -- center and guard -- that are moving a lot."
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 08, 2013, 03:49:40 PM
I snort synthetic kitty litter.  Still legal in all 50 states.


I have no idea about the wins/losses total.  We were such unbelievable suckage last year that I don't know if we really didn't have much talent or the staff was so bad and completely lost the team.  If it's the latter, then just the renewed attitude and game plan on both sides of the ball should double our win total.  In addition, getting guys in the right places should be a big boost. 

But then, what if Patrick Miller and Chad Slade really can't block a damn soul?  What if Jeffrey Whittaker really can't get off a block to save his life?  What if C. McKinzy and K-Frost really are mildly retarded and can't recognize the difference in a Power-I and a spread offense? What if Sammie Coates is never going to catch a football consistently? I just don't know until I see what they do against WSU.

 
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 08, 2013, 04:03:29 PM
I snort synthetic kitty litter.  Still legal in all 50 states.


I have no idea about the wins/losses total.  We were such unbelievable suckage last year that I don't know if we really didn't have much talent or the staff was so bad and completely lost the team.  If it's the latter, then just the renewed attitude and game plan on both sides of the ball should double our win total.  In addition, getting guys in the right places should be a big boost. 

But then, what if Patrick Miller and Chad Slade really can't block a damn soul?  What if Jeffrey Whittaker really can't get off a block to save his life?  What if C. McKinzy and K-Frost really are mildly retarded and can't recognize the difference in a Power-I and a spread offense? What if Sammie Coates is never going to catch a football consistently? I just don't know until I see what they do against WSU.

 

All I know for sure is that this is Trovon Reed's breakout year.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: ssgaufan on April 08, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
I can't wait for those drives where we are moving at will against a good defense, then Gus calls the triple reverse and we lose twenty yards!
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 08, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
I can't wait for those drives where we are moving at will against a good defense, then Gus calls the triple reverse and we lose twenty yards!

I heard the ticket holders have an app for that. It's a shock collar that Gus wears to the games and the minute he even thinks about stupid shit like that, a button is pressed and he receivers a shock.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 08, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
I can't wait for those drives where we are moving at will against a good defense, then Gus calls the triple reverse and we lose twenty yards!

Agreed. While the overall offense and playcalling should be way ahead of last year's anemic cluster, I still recall many times I asked if he was just pulling the next play out of the bag, regardless of the situation.  Still, if we can start moving the ball and putting points on the board, I won't complain.......much.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: AWK on April 08, 2013, 06:58:15 PM
All I know for sure is that this is Trovon Reed's breakout year.
<3
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Pell City Tiger on April 08, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
I still recall many times I asked if he was just pulling the next play out of the bag, regardless of the situation.
His playbook was actually a Magic 8 Ball.

True story.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: jmar on April 08, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
All I know for sure is that this is Trovon Reed's breakout year.
He's gonna tear this league up yall.
Yeah I agree with you...much more of this and I'll have to go take a cure. 
We were clowned by MSU last season and a horrible Arky team gave evidence to just how far we had sank. Tennessee at least appears to have more consistent line play than us on both sides of the ball just from the few games I saw them play last season and Arkansas State is laying to bushwhack our asses. Most everyone else save for WSU, W. Carolina and Fla. Atlantic have veteran teams returning with playmakers at key positions and we are nowhere ready to compete at their level.
4-6 wins and I'm guessing 5. Any more than six would be remarkable.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 09, 2013, 10:59:59 AM
Reading into Kris Frost's tweet, I'm thinking one of the coaches tells him, or them: "This ain't my first rodeo."

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Kris Frost ‏@Frost4Life 13m
never been before..its never really been my thing but theres a first time for everything lets see what this rodeo thing is all about;)
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Saniflush on April 09, 2013, 11:03:00 AM
Reading into Kris Frost's tweet, I'm thinking one of the coaches tells him, or them: "This ain't my first rodeo."

or this...

http://alphapsirodeo.com/
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: AUTiger1 on April 09, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
or this...

http://alphapsirodeo.com/

Yeah, I'm gonna go with this.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2013, 11:15:22 AM
You Moo's really know how to put on a rodeo.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 09, 2013, 11:17:45 AM
You Moo's really know how to put on a rodeo.
That's my Pi
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Godfather on April 09, 2013, 11:18:48 AM
or this...

http://alphapsirodeo.com/

Fuck me...Tickets?  This thing has come a long way.  I don't remember having to purchase no tickets.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Saniflush on April 09, 2013, 11:20:19 AM
Fuck me...Tickets?  This thing has come a long way.  I don't remember having to purchase no tickets.

I thought the same thing.  You just showed up with a cooler full of beer.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 09, 2013, 11:34:46 AM
His playbook was actually a Magic 8 Ball.

True story.
Is Gus on the cocaine? Far out.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 09, 2013, 11:37:50 AM
Sources say Kris Frost to join the PBR Tour
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: GH2001 on April 09, 2013, 08:12:09 PM
or this...

http://alphapsirodeo.com/

Don't stop him, he's on a roll.
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: DnATL on April 10, 2013, 08:05:56 AM
or this...

http://alphapsirodeo.com/
War Damn Rodeo
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: AUChizad on April 11, 2013, 09:31:41 AM
Reading into Kris Frost's tweet, I'm thinking one of the coaches tells him, or them: "This ain't my first rodeo."
LMMFGDAO
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: scrimmage 4/6/13
Post by: djsimp on April 11, 2013, 10:35:28 AM
LMMFGDAO
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: