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Pat Dye Field => Signing Day => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on June 22, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
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Justin Hokanson â€@JHokanson
AU commit Dee Liner weighs in at #RivalsChallenge at 6-foot-2, 280-pounds.
Our five star defensive end commit weighs 280 pounds?
It moved.
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Our five star defensive end commit weighs 280 pounds?
It moved.
As long as it isn't 280#'s of chewed bubblegum
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Our five star defensive end commit weighs 280 pounds?
It moved.
At 6-2, that's a bit thick for a 4-3 style DE. But if he can move, then all the better.
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That's a stout young man. Think about this...
DE
Ladarious Owens So. 6-2 255
Craig Sanders Jr. 6-4 263
Keymiya Harrell RFr 6-4 260
Justin Delaine So. 6-5 250
Corey Lemonier Jr. 6-4 247
Nosa Eguae Jr. 6-3 262
Dee Ford Jr. 6-2 237
With 6-3 250 Carl Lawson and 6-2 280 Dee Liner coming in.
Tackles
Jeffrey Whitaker Jr. 6-3 301
Gabe Wright So. 6-3 305
Deangelo Blackson So. 6-4 316
Kenneth Carter Jr. 6-4 294
Devaunte Sigler So. 6-4 295
Jabrian Niles RFr. 6-2 292
Jamar Travis Sr. 6-0 296
Tyler Nero Fr. 6-2 290
I'm sure I'm missing some people but note that there's only 1 senior on our entire defensive line and he's a part time player. AU took it's beat downs last year and I'd say you'd better get em' now because next year, this will be one of the biggest, most experienced lines in the country with a lot of young bucks coming up.
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AU took it's beat downs last year and I'd say you'd better get em' now because next year, this will be one of the biggest, most experienced lines in the country with a lot of young bucks coming up.
This. This is what I have been clinging to... The pain of the beatdowns we took last year will be nothing compared to the beatdowns that these now experienced kids and :stache: are gonna dish out.
Revenge is a dish best served cold...
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At 6-2, that's a bit thick for a 4-3 style DE. But if he can move, then all the better.
We run a 3-4 style 4-3.
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That's a stout young man. Think about this...
DE
Ladarious Owens So. 6-2 255
Craig Sanders Jr. 6-4 263
Keymiya Harrell RFr 6-4 260
Justin Delaine So. 6-5 250
Corey Lemonier Jr. 6-4 247
Nosa Eguae Jr. 6-3 262
Dee Ford Jr. 6-2 237
With 6-3 250 Carl Lawson and 6-2 280 Dee Liner coming in.
Tackles
Jeffrey Whitaker Jr. 6-3 301
Gabe Wright So. 6-3 305
Deangelo Blackson So. 6-4 316
Kenneth Carter Jr. 6-4 294
Devaunte Sigler So. 6-4 295
Jabrian Niles RFr. 6-2 292
Jamar Travis Sr. 6-0 296
Tyler Nero Fr. 6-2 290
I'm sure I'm missing some people but note that there's only 1 senior on our entire defensive line and he's a part time player. AU took it's beat downs last year and I'd say you'd better get em' now because next year, this will be one of the biggest, most experienced lines in the country with a lot of young bucks coming up.
I bet that’s not the first time you have said that.
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I bet that’s not the first time you have said that.
Why are you bringing Dax into this?
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Why are you bringing Dax into this?
You know, Dax could have been a great DE if he wanted to be.
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You know, Dax could have been a great DE if he wanted to be.
As with all players of that caliber, he fell victim to his own talent.
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As with all players of that caliber, he fell victim to his own talent.
Truer words were never spoken
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Our five star defensive end commit weighs 280 pounds?
It moved.
So what your saying is that
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is the next
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So what your saying is that
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is the next
(http://images.wikia.com/packers/images/b/b9/Reggie_White.jpg)
So our star guy is dead?
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So our star guy is dead?
No! He's gonna be the next big stiff white QB!
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No! He's gonna be the next big stiff white QB!
Shit-we already got one of them.
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Shit-we already got one of them.
Nowz we gots two or fo.
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We run a 3-4 style 4-3.
Sweet hustle.
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Dee Liner is gonna move down to the DT position when he gets to Auburn.
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Dee Liner is gonna move down to the DT position when he gets to Auburn.
does he get a pay cut too?
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does he get a pay cut too?
Danny Sheridan says the bag man will bring a full bag.
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Danny Sheridan says the bag man will bring a full bag.
Just as long that its not a bag of weed with all the drug problems at Auburn.
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Just as long that its not a bag of weed with all the drug problems at Auburn.
What do you expect with all that thuggery down there?
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Danny Sheridan says the bag man will bring a full bag.
Dime bag or nickel bag? Or 1 gallon ziploc freezer bag?
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Dime bag or nickel bag? Or 1 gallon ziploc freezer bag?
Large brown paper bag, full of money. He can buy his own dope.
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The comparisons have already been made...
Carl Lawson = Dwight Freeney or James Harrison type player
Dee Liner = Reggie White type player
The comparisons were made by former NFL DT Omari Jordan (he works the Rivals camps now)
Jordan also made this statement about Lawson and Liner...
...You could pretty much have them two on one side and overload the other side with a blitz. Who will they turn the protection to? If you leave those two blocked one-on-one on one side, then you don't care too much about your quarterback. Those guys have that much upside and that much talent. It's freakishthat you see that at the high school level.
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What is up with Dee walking out of practice? Granted, hearing that he was not the only one but he's making this getting into trouble a habit. You just don't do this bs.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/08/report_auburn_commit_dee_liner.html
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Big uat fan coaching staff and REC all over Muscle Shoals. Like I said after Dee's 2nd Bullshit arrest, the inbred fanbase will continue to her ass him...it's in their nature. The fact that he's one of the Elite DEnds, in the upcoming signing class, makes it that much more important, to them, that he signs with uat.
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Big uat fan coaching staff and REC all over Muscle Shoals. Like I said after Dee's 2nd Bullshit arrest, the inbred fanbase will continue to her ass him...it's in their nature. The fact that he's one of the Elite DEnds, in the upcoming signing class, makes it that much more important, to them, that he signs with uat.
So, the cops are out to get him, and so are his coaches. I bet the coaches just randomly pulled him to the side and suspended him for NO reason whatsoever. Only because they want him to sign with Alabama. This is kind of far out there, even for you. You have to admit, if this were an Alabama recruit, you would be all over it. If I were to present the same defense for said Alabama recruit, Kaos would goat pic me off of the board.
Look, I'm all about kids do dumb shit. Even college kids. I've never really made a thing about an AU recruit or player being arrested. But at this point, I don't even want Liner to sign with Alabama. He's looking more and more like Zeke Pike 2.0. If he makes it to AU, I don't see Chizik accepting his BS either. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't make two years at AU.
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So, the cops are out to get him, and so are his coaches. I bet the coaches just randomly pulled him to the side and suspended him for NO reason whatsoever. Only because they want him to sign with Alabama. This is kind of far out there, even for you. You have to admit, if this were an Alabama recruit, you would be all over it. If I were to present the same defense for said Alabama recruit, Kaos would goat pic me off of the board.
Look, I'm all about kids do dumb shit. Even college kids. I've never really made a thing about an AU recruit or player being arrested. But at this point, I don't even want Liner to sign with Alabama. He's looking more and more like Zeke Pike 2.0. If he makes it to AU, I don't see Chizik accepting his BS either. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't make two years at AU.
You might want to rethink you're â€looks more and more like Pike comment†after you look at what he was arrested for and yes Muscle Shoals is nearly filled to the brim with REC members and uat fans...including most of, if not all, of the HS Coaching Staff.
If the shoe was on the other foot and it was Reuben Foster at Auburn High and Auburn University is dirty as fuckin hell (like uat is), with a HC, coaching staff and boosters that'll do everything and anything to land a bigtime prospect (like uat)? Yes, I'd think the exact same way, that Auburn University was doing everything they can to make his Senior year miserable because he chose uat over AU in hopes that he might rethink his decision and sign with AU, after constant pressure...again, that's saying AU is like uat in ALL of their illegal ways (thank God, that's not the case).
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You might want to rethink you're â€looks more and more like Pike comment†after you look at what he was arrested for and yes Muscle Shoals is nearly filled to the brim with REC members and uat fans...including most of, if not all, of the HS Coaching Staff.
If the shoe was on the other foot and it was Reuben Foster at Auburn High and Auburn University is dirty as fuckin hell (like uat is), with a HC, coaching staff and boosters that'll do everything and anything to land a bigtime prospect (like uat)? Yes, I'd think the exact same way, that Auburn University was doing everything they can to make his Senior year miserable because he chose uat over AU in hopes that he might rethink his decision and sign with AU, after constant pressure...again, that's saying AU is like uat in ALL of their illegal ways (thank God, that's not the case).
Yeah, his coach sounds like a total douche.
Muscle Shoals coach Scott Basden was quoted in a tweet by writer Bryan App on Thursday night saying, "I'm more worried about Dee as a person than a player." App reaffirmed Basden's comment today.
The kid has issues. It's not Auburn's fault by any means. When he gets on campus, Chizik isn't going to put up with his shit either. Use as much tinfoil on your hat as you like, but this goes beyond conspiracy. As far as his arrests, I've got no problem with the whole jumping the fence at 1AM thing. Kids do shit like that. Even though it is arrestable, whatever. But screaming, cursing, and throwing things at a female police officer? Yeah. I bet she's in on the conspiracy too. It's pretty obvious that this kid has issues. For that matter, the two arrests were made by two different police agencies. In an interview about the arrests, he even said "I made some bad decisions". It isn't a conspiracy, and he knows it. I don't care what team he wants to play football for. He's going to be a problem.
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I have first hand info that the coaches are attempting to drive him to AL.
They ARE harassing him -- and talking openly about it -- and they are riding his mother too.
Their play is "Aubren done got a thug culture goin on, them boys got shot, them boys on drugs. Y'all need to get hold of dee and get him to bammer where they takes care of them boys. He won't make it at Aubren with all them thugs."
If he doesn't change his commit they will ruin his senior year and do it proudly.
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I have first hand info that the coaches are attempting to drive him to AL.
They ARE harassing him -- and talking openly about it -- and they are riding his mother too.
Their play is "Aubren done got a thug culture goin on, them boys got shot, them boys on drugs. Y'all need to get hold of dee and get him to bammer where they takes care of them boys. He won't make it at Aubren with all them thugs."
If he doesn't change his commit they will ruin his senior year and do it proudly.
If it's that bad - so bad that it could cost him a scholarship, grant him jail time, or hurt his mother's life - why not just sit out the year?
He's a five star recruit. He could miss his senior season and still be more coveted than most defensive end prospects in the country. He could focus on weight training and agility drills while taking extra classes to maybe enroll early at Auburn in January. Or at worst, make sure he's on campus in June.
Or even better - why not transfer to Auburn High School? It's not illegal as we're seeing with Paige and Foster. Why can't he go live with Reuben Foster? Leave Auburn University out of it, and he just spend his senior season at another school?
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You are assuming he and his mom are aware of the plan.
Dee is a good kid. I'm worried about him as a person. We got to get him to Saban cause he can HELP this wayward boy.
Not saying his folks are dumb but why wouldn't they trust the people who are supposed to watch out for him?
Things are very organized now. Bama fucks are expected to be on board with the plan. If you are a HS coach you are told on no uncertain terms that the UA program will be unhappy with you if one of your recruits strays. There are repercussions. How the coach accomplishes the goal? They dont wanna know. Plausible deniability.
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Yeah, his coach sounds like a total douche.
The kid has issues. It's not Auburn's fault by any means. When he gets on campus, Chizik isn't going to put up with his shit either. Use as much tinfoil on your hat as you like, but this goes beyond conspiracy. As far as his arrests, I've got no problem with the whole jumping the fence at 1AM thing. Kids do shit like that. Even though it is arrestable, whatever. But screaming, cursing, and throwing things at a female police officer? Yeah. I bet she's in on the conspiracy too. It's pretty obvious that this kid has issues. For that matter, the two arrests were made by two different police agencies. In an interview about the arrests, he even said "I made some bad decisions". It isn't a conspiracy, and he knows it. I don't care what team he wants to play football for. He's going to be a problem.
No tinfoil panties needed, what's going with Dee is being orchestrated...$5 says that more shit will come out about Dee and/or a family member (like, plant drugs on them during a routine traffic stop). They don't care about what happens to his life, or his Mother's life (apparently), because with him going to Auburn he's basically dead to them...UNLESS they can screw with him enough to get him to change commitments, well then it was all worth it and everything will be dropped (including the murder charge that they'll slap on him before the end of the year).
Either way, rws, your inbred fanbase will do everything they can to land one kid that wants to go elsewhere. Just as long as he doesn't go to Auburn, they think it's their responsibility to her ass him enough so that he'd want to change his mind.
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No tinfoil panties needed, what's going with Dee is being orchestrated...$5 says that more shoot will come out about Dee and/or a family member (like, plant drugs on them during a routine traffic stop). They don't care about what happens to his life, or his Mother's life (apparently), because with him going to Auburn he's basically dead to them...UNLESS they can screw with him enough to get him to change commitments, well then it was all worth it and everything will be dropped (including the murder charge that they'll slap on him before the end of the year).
Either way, rws, your inbred fanbase will do everything they can to land one kid that wants to go elsewhere. Just as long as he doesn't go to Auburn, they think it's their responsibility to her ass him enough so that he'd want to change his mind.
I'm not going to say that things aren't as bad there as you say because I have no idea but if they are, the AHSAA needs to be there instead of in Auburn. I have a really hard time laying all of this blame on the REC and the coaching staff. Afterall, the HS hc's job depends on wins and I have to believe that most any hc in Alabama would want DL on their D. If DL is not giving any attitude at practice and acting right, I am sorry for thinking that he is just in need of an attitude adjustment. It really doesn't matter how good of a player he or any other kid is (MD, ZP, etc.)--it the attitude isn't there, there will be problems.
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Their play is "Aubren done got a thug culture goin on, them boys got shot, them boys on drugs. Y'all need to get hold of dee and get him to bammer where they takes care of them boys. He won't make it at Aubren with all them thugs."
No, he won't make it at Auburn because Chizik will put a foot up his ass directly. See: Zeke Pike.
The whole conspiracy theory is bullshit, and you know it. When asked about his arrests, Liner even admitted "I made some bad decisions". I guess they brainwashed him into thinking he actually did those things he is accused of. Since you're so connected to the situation, why was he suspended from the team?
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Liner also tweeted, "so ready to get out of the quads", "so pissed right now." and "my mind gone my heart Mad and my soul so pissed" and "still gone grind and still gone shine because thats what they can't stand". Followed today by "up early and getting ready for church #Keepgodfirstalways
I just glanced at his twitter and I didn't see anything that screamed thug or trouble maker. He is far more positive than 90% of the bullshit that is out there.
I am not saying Prowler is right, I just don't put anything past the stupid mother fucks that will do anything to make sure Alabama wins and Auburn is crushed. And there are a lot of those fucks out there. A lot.
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Liner also tweeted, "so ready to get out of the quads", "so pissed right now." and "my mind gone my heart Mad and my soul so pissed" and "still gone grind and still gone shine because thats what they can't stand". Followed today by "up early and getting ready for church #Keepgodfirstalways
I just glanced at his twitter and I didn't see anything that screamed thug or trouble maker. He is far more positive than 90% of the bullshit that is out there.
I am not saying Prowler is right, I just don't put anything past the stupid mother fucks that will do anything to make sure Alabama wins and Auburn is crushed. And there are a lot of those fucks out there. A lot.
And to add to all of that, the perception the state media (like AL.com) creates. RWS is proof that it works in comparing him to Zeke.
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All I ask is for DL to stay focused on getting to AU and he can make it through. He can hold his breath and stand on his head for that long.
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All I ask is for DL to stay focused on getting to AU and he can make it through. He can hold his breath and stand on his head for that long.
Live a day in his life and see what's coming at him. Easier said than done.
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I'm thinking Dee will never make it to the plains.
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He can hold his breath and stand on his head for that long.
Maybe we should be recruiting him for the swim team.
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Maybe we should be recruiting him for the swim team.
Brilliant.
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Somebody needs to get to him and tell him to flip to bammer. And then on singing day, flip them off. As long as they believe he is theirs, they will leave him alone. Senior year should be the best times, not the worst.
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Live a day in his life and see what's coming at him. Easier said than done.
I'm not trying to minimize any of the difficulties that he faces. We all face difficulties. His are likely more challenging than what I faced at that age. At the same time, I'm not going to buy excuses for run-ins with the law and/or hs coaches. He can make it for one more school year.
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I'm not trying to minimize any of the difficulties that he faces. We all face difficulties. His are likely more challenging than what I faced at that age. At the same time, I'm not going to buy excuses for run-ins with the law and/or hs coaches. He can make it for one more school year.
They're not excuses.
He will either do what they want or they'll screw with him badly. Look at the administration at that school.
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They're not excuses.
He will either do what they want or they'll screw with him badly. Look at the administration at that school.
Enlighten me about the admin. I know not.
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Enlighten me about the admin. I know not.
My understanding is that the principal is a bama bobo honking jackass.
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So, if DL sits out his sr season in hs--is CGC o.k. with it? Jason Caldwell was on 740 am and indicated that it would likely not have any effect on his offer. If this is true, I'm jumping to the conclusion that the staff is aware of the mentioned hard time that DL is being given. I'm still not convinced that the two arrests have anything to do with it but I can't beleive that CGC is still going after a guy with this much baggage unless there is more to the story than meets the eye. I hope there is.
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So, if DL sits out his sr season in hs--is CGC o.k. with it? Jason Caldwell was on 740 am and indicated that it would likely not have any effect on his offer. If this is true, I'm jumping to the conclusion that the staff is aware of the mentioned hard time that DL is being given. I'm still not convinced that the two arrests have anything to do with it but I can't beleive that CGC is still going after a guy with this much baggage unless there is more to the story than meets the eye. I hope there is.
Chiziks approach to the situation alone shows me there is more to the story.
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Chiziks approach to the situation alone shows me there is more to the story.
Thou shalt trust in the Chin.
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So, if DL sits out his sr season in hs--is CGC o.k. with it? Jason Caldwell was on 740 am and indicated that it would likely not have any effect on his offer. If this is true, I'm jumping to the conclusion that the staff is aware of the mentioned hard time that DL is being given. I'm still not convinced that the two arrests have anything to do with it but I can't beleive that CGC is still going after a guy with this much baggage unless there is more to the story than meets the eye. I hope there is.
Even that homo jeff sentell admits the "stories" surrounding these "arrests" are shady at best.
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Even that homo jeff sentell admits the "stories" surrounding these "arrests" are shady at best.
Eggs Ackly
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I'm not going to say that things aren't as bad there as you say because I have no idea but if they are, the AHSAA needs to be there instead of in Auburn. I have a really hard time laying all of this blame on the REC and the coaching staff. Afterall, the HS hc's job depends on wins and I have to believe that most any hc in Alabama would want DL on their D. If DL is not giving any attitude at practice and acting right, I am sorry for thinking that he is just in need of an attitude adjustment. It really doesn't matter how good of a player he or any other kid is (MD, ZP, etc.)--it the attitude isn't there, there will be problems.
AHSAA President is in uat's back pocket, remember that. As for Dee, his attitude is fine, it's the reports/rumors of his actions that aren't. Like rws stating, like it's a fact, that he was kicking, screaming, cussing, punching, spitting, throwing things, head butting, etc. at the female officer.