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Title: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: The Prowler on December 21, 2011, 04:58:07 AM
Robert Leff (http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Robert-Leff-127652) OL 6'6" 260lbs Fairhope, Ala (4 Grillz)

(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/3c/3cb01e536d8a4a323952f38b0e861884/256317.jpg)

I really, really like this kid, he reminds me of my brother in the way that he plays. He has the build to put on 40-50lbs. of good weight & it's a position of dire need. Fuck Yeah Mutha Fucka!!!!
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 21, 2011, 08:35:12 AM
Does this mean last weekend was a complete bust?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 08:46:24 AM
Does this mean last weekend was a complete bust?

In all seriousness no, from the sound of things this may be a very nice looking OL class.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 21, 2011, 08:57:44 AM
In all seriousness no, from the sound of things this may be a very nice looking OL class.

I certainly hope so.  I figured either the weekend recruiting was a complete bust or they just decided to fill Yeldon's spot with another OL.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 09:21:13 AM
I certainly hope so.  I figured either the weekend recruiting was a complete bust or they just decided to fill Yeldon's spot with another OL.

Actually I think that is partly true from reading the cruiten gurus. Along with the OL already on board, I think the coaches are holding at least two more slots for more OL, one or two of which may be JUCO.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: JR4AU on December 21, 2011, 10:27:05 AM
I certainly hope so.  I figured either the weekend recruiting was a complete bust or they just decided to fill Yeldon's spot with another OL.

They got 9 spots to fill.  For a while I was ok with it, but I'm worried now.  How we finish will say a lot.  I have no real problem with bringing in a big guy like this, but he's NOT going to be "tutored an developed" up to playing size for a couple of years.  This kid is a RS, and RS Fr. year away from even seeing the field unless he maybe switches to defense.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 21, 2011, 10:32:40 AM
They got 9 spots to fill.  For a while I was ok with it, but I'm worried now.  How we finish will say a lot.  I have no real problem with bringing in a big guy like this, but he's NOT going to be "tutored an developed" up to playing size for a couple of years.  This kid is a RS, and RS Fr. year away from even seeing the field unless he maybe switches to defense.

I guess it could be worse though...they could have just landed a deep snapper. 

Oh, sorry snaggs.  Too soon?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 21, 2011, 10:33:23 AM
They got 9 spots to fill.  For a while I was ok with it, but I'm worried now.  How we finish will say a lot.  I have no real problem with bringing in a big guy like this, but he's NOT going to be "tutored an developed" up to playing size for a couple of years.  This kid is a RS, and RS Fr. year away from even seeing the field unless he maybe switches to defense.

How many 18 year olds you know are bigger than 6'6" 260?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 10:47:00 AM
How many 18 year olds you know are bigger than 6'6" 260?

Maybe quite a few. They are probably all doing time in the pokie though.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 21, 2011, 10:49:23 AM
So, it's safe to say this week he has gone from being leff out, to being Auburn's future Leff Guard?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 21, 2011, 10:51:05 AM
I thought it was common knowledge that we are looking to sign 5 and maybe 6 OL this class? 

Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 11:06:37 AM
OL commits and prospects with Auburn intending on signing 5 or 6:

Robert Leff - 6'6" 260lbs - Commit
Will Latu - 6'5 315lbs - Commit
Shane Callahan - 6'6 277lbs - Commit


Joshua Garnett - 6'5 287
Avery Young - 6'5 271
Jordan Diamond - 6'6 292
Evan Boehm - 6'4 292
Alex Kozan - 6'4 294
Brandon Fanaika - 6'3 293
Arik Armstead- 6'8 280lbs

JUCO
Menelik Watson - 6'6 320lbs
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: JR4AU on December 21, 2011, 11:15:51 AM
How many 18 year olds you know are bigger than 6'6" 260?

In the whole world, bigger is rare.  In the football world, there's many.  How many 18 year old 6-6 260 players are playing OL in the SEC?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Saniflush on December 21, 2011, 11:25:39 AM
In the whole world, bigger is rare.  In the football world, there's many.  How many 18 year old 6-6 260 players are playing OL in the SEC?

The entire Auburn OL was that weight during the 2008 season.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 21, 2011, 11:26:17 AM
In the whole world, bigger is rare.  In the football world, there's many.  How many 18 year old 6-6 260 players are playing OL in the SEC?

I would say very little to none come in at 6'6" 260...
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: JR4AU on December 21, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
I would say very little to none come in at 6'6" 260...

Exactly.  Not saying the kid can't play, just that he won't be ready to play for a year or most likely, at least, two.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: JR4AU on December 21, 2011, 11:35:45 AM
The entire Auburn OL was that weight during the 2008 season.

Exaggeration is a neat tool.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 21, 2011, 11:35:54 AM
Exactly.  Not saying the kid can't play, just that he won't be ready to play for a year or most likely, at least, two.

Oh...I misunderstood then...
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 21, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
I would say very little to none come in at 6'6" 260...

I like it though.  Usually those guys showed a lot of technique and athleticism in high school to get a scholarship offer despite the lack of size.  If he can hold on to that while he bulks up and adds some more strength he could be a monster.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
I would say very little to none come in at 6'6" 260...

There are several that the Auburn coaches are after that fit that bill.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Saniflush on December 21, 2011, 12:54:46 PM
Exaggeration is a neat tool.

Tony Franklin says you aren't light enough.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
Tony Franklin says you aren't light enough.

So signing this kid proves that Chizik is going all in with the spread.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 01:28:38 PM
So signing this kid proves that Chizik is going all in with the spread.

No, the kids spread is a sign for Chizik to go all in.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
No, the kids spread is a sign for Jerry to go all in.

FTFY
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 01:51:53 PM
FTFY

I see but what you did but what in the hell did you think I meant there Snaggle? You're not suggesting that I made some sort of sexual inyourwindow comment towards Chizik no are you?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 02:27:49 PM
I see but what you did but what in the hell did you think I meant there Snaggle? You're not suggesting that I made some sort of sexual inyourwindow comment towards Chizik no are you?

So Chizik is doing gay porn movies?  Damn, the webz are about to blow.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 21, 2011, 02:29:17 PM
So Chizik is doing gay porn movies?  Damn, the webz are about to blow.

Isn't it obvious?  He's obviously too busy doing all that gay porn to hire cowordenaters.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: DnATL on December 21, 2011, 03:27:15 PM
Isn't it obvious?  He's obviously too busy doing all that gay porn to hire cowordenaters.
Then he would only need to hire one - he could go be a two-way coach
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: The Prowler on December 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
JR, there aren't many High Schoolers that come in and start on the OL, regardless of size. So, yeah, he's going to redshirt....so? Greg Robinson and Christian Westerman both redshirted, they came in bigger than 260lbs.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 03:59:20 PM
If you haven't read this...then do it...do it now.

Redshirt OL gets rave reviews from Auburn teammates
By: David Morrison | Dothan Eagle
Published: December 20, 2011 Updated: December 20, 2011 - 11:50 PM
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AUBURN – Auburn’s best offensive lineman could very well be one that hasn’t played a snap yet.

He’s the imposing 6-foot-5, 315-pound figure you see on the sidelines wearing Lee Ziemba’s old No. 73, the one who was rated in the top 10 nationally at both guard and tackle coming out off Thibodaux (La.) High and the one Auburn plucked from the heart of LSU country to hopefully become the cornerstone of its line for years to come.

He’s Greg Robinson. And, to hear his teammates talk about him, he can be scary good.

“That kid is going to be great. He’s still young, but Greg is going to be an awesome player here,” senior tackle A.J. Greene said. “If he just continues to work like he has been, the sky’s the limit for him.”

Robinson’s got the body to play now. He’s got the athletic ability to play now.

The only thing the freshman is lacking is game experience.

But once he gets that…

 “The athletic ability he’s capable of, it’s ridiculous,” Greene said. “He’s going to be a great player, and I’m really excited to be able to come back and watch him play.”

Offensive line coach Jeff Grimes made the decision early in the season to send Robinson and Christian Westerman – the Tigers’ other highly touted lineman in the Class of 2011 – down the redshirt track.

Grimes said both young linemen had two ways to take that news: They could pout or they could prosper.

Robinson and Westerman chose the latter.

 “Both those guys, having the opportunity to stick with us and kind of learn the routine and be around the guys that are playing, that’ll benefit them a lot,” Grimes said.

The learning curve was especially steep for Robinson starting at about the midway point of the season.

 “I think he settled into his role, recognized he wasn’t going to play this year and really started trying to get better,” Grimes said. “I think for a while they go through learning the system, trying to figure out what expectations are, let Coach yell at you and not get your feelings hurt.

 “He wants to do well, wants to do right and I think he’s recognized whatever work he does now is setting him for next year.”

It’s already starting to show in bowl practice.

Robinson – playing at left tackle – and Westerman – playing mostly left guard, but also shifting to the right – are combining to make a fairly formidable side of the line for the Tigers.

If you’re a defender and you’ve got Robinson and Westerman – who runs about 6-3, 290 – coming at you, it’s not easy to get out of the way.

 “He moves like a tight end and he’s, what, 315?” Westerman said of Robinson. “It’s been fun next to Greg. Pairing on those double teams, it reminds me of high school and driving the kid down the field. Off the field.”

Both seem shoo-ins for the Tigers’ rotation next year.

Both Greene – Auburn’s starting left tackle – and Brandon Mosley – who holds down the right – are graduating, meaning Robinson can slip into Greene’s spot and redshirt freshman Chad Slade can move from right guard to right tackle, where he started the opener against Utah State this year.

That leaves Westerman, junior John Sullen and redshirt freshman Eric Mack as options at the two guard spots.

The Tigers’ line this year took the good – 174.8 rush yards a game – with the bad – 31 sacks allowed on only about 300 dropbacks.

 “I think that we have certainly deserved some criticism, yes,” Grimes said. “Honestly, I try to get them to the point where the only criticism they hear is from me, because that’s really all that matters. But they don’t need to be focused on it, and I certainly don’t.”

Westerman and Robinson both feel they’re ready to help remedy that next year.

 “Sitting out this year, just learning, each and every day, we’re going out there to practice, we’re hitting, we’re learning, we’re getting better,” Westerman said. “(To start next year is) definitely my mindset and that’s my ultimate goal. I’m going to put everything I have toward it.”

 

Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: JR4AU on December 21, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
JR, there aren't many High Schoolers that come in and start on the OL, regardless of size. So, yeah, he's going to redshirt....so? Greg Robinson and Christian Westerman both redshirted, they came in bigger than 260lbs.

Wait, what?  I thought great coaches could "tutor and develop" them in their freshman season regardless.  Just throw 'em out there and by game 8 or 9 of their Fr. year, they're "all growed up".
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 21, 2011, 04:17:52 PM
Wait, what?  I thought great coaches could "tutor and develop" them in their freshman season regardless.  Just throw 'em out there and by game 8 or 9 of their Fr. year, they're "all growed up".

C'mon man.  Ever since Chizik was hired nobody has gotten better at anything.  They're actually a little bit worse than they were.  Why even I had trouble satisfying your wife last night, she asked what was wrong and the only thing I could say was, "That damn Chizik."
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 04:22:01 PM
C'mon man.  Ever since Chizik was hired nobody has gotten better at anything.  They're actually a little bit worse than they were.  Why even I had trouble satisfying your wife last night, she asked what was wrong and the only thing I could say was, "That damn Chizik."

Uh oh, trouble
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: JR4AU on December 21, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
C'mon man.  Ever since Chizik was hired nobody has gotten better at anything.  They're actually a little bit worse than they were.  Why even I had trouble satisfying your wife last night, she asked what was wrong and the only thing I could say was, "That damn Chizik."

That would be my ex wife, and you can fuckin' have her!  Good luck!  I wouldn't even wish her on most bammers.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 21, 2011, 04:32:14 PM
That would be my ex wife, and you can fudgein' have her!  Good luck!  I wouldn't even wish her on most bammers.

Damn...another attempt at humor foiled by not knowing people in real life.   
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: djsimp on December 21, 2011, 04:37:12 PM
Damn...another attempt at humor foiled by not knowing people in real life.   

(http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f68/122703d1243968671-i-find-highly-amusing-when-internet-know-alls-get-their-ass-handed-them-internet_serious_business.jpg)
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 04:38:15 PM
Damn...another attempt at humor foiled by not knowing people in real life.   

Well, she is 6'6" 260.

Back to the article...this made me moist.

 “He moves like a tight end and he’s, what, 315?” Westerman said of Robinson. “It’s been fun next to Greg. Pairing on those double teams, it reminds me of high school and driving the kid down the field. Off the field.”

Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 21, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Well, she is 6'6" 260.

Back to the article...this made me moist.

 “He moves like a tight end and he’s, what, 315?” Westerman said of Robinson. “It’s been fun next to Greg. Pairing on those double teams, it reminds me of high school and driving the kid down the field. Off the field.”

Unfortunately the guys they are pancaking were on our first team D.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2011, 04:47:05 PM
Unfortunately the guys they are pancaking were on our first team D.   :facepalm:

Speaking of pancaked D-linemen, does anyone know if Dee Ford got a medical redshirt, or will he be a senior in eligibility next year?
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Saniflush on December 22, 2011, 07:13:37 AM
Speaking of pancaked D-linemen, does anyone know if Dee Ford got a medical redshirt, or will he be a senior in eligibility next year?

I heard Thorpe is applying for a medical redshirt since he was burned so much over much of his body.
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 22, 2011, 08:44:44 AM
I heard Thorpe is applying for a medical redshirt since he was burned so much over much of his body.

There is a chance our defensive MVP will be back???? Hell Yes!!!
Title: Re: Commit #16 OL Robert Leff...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 22, 2011, 09:40:35 AM
I heard Thorpe is applying for a medical redshirt since he was burned so much over much of his body.

Solid Izzy Gold