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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Saniflush on October 19, 2011, 08:10:40 AM
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/10/auburn_qb_clint_moseleys_got_a.html
AUBURN, Alabama -- Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn says new starting quarterback Clint Moseley has a little edge to him.
"He has a knack to do things when things break down. He's got a little bit of the gunslinger in him," Malzahn said Tuesday, the day the Tigers named Moseley its starting quarterback for Saturday's game at LSU.
It'll be Moseley first start as he replaces Barrett Trotter, who started the first seven games of the season. It'll be Moseley's first start since winning three state championship 2A Leroy.
"He knows how to win. You always look for somebody who knows how to win," Malzahn said.
Malzahn said he won't simplify the offense for the otherwise little-used Moseley. This is the third year the redshirt sophomore has been in Malzahn's system.
Malzahn said Moseley received more snaps at practice Tuesday than the amount a normal quarterback would receive. The receivers stuck around after practice to catch extra passes from Moseley.
"He's got a heavy amount of the reps today, which he needed," Malzahn said.
Moseley won the job with his performance in the second half of Saturday's 17-6 win over Florida. Trotter didn't play in the second half.
As for Moseley, Malzahn said, "I think he's grown up a lot. If you ask him, I think he'd say that.
I'm real proud of where he came from. He's gotten more mature, even in this season."
Malzahn said Wildcat quarterback Kiehl Frazier "will continue to have a role."
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With all of that said, why the fuck did they start Trotter in the first place?
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With all of that said, why the fuck did they start Trotter in the first place?
No idea other than I had heard that they were neck and neck and Trotter had more time on campus. Gonna be a hell of a trial by fire for him though.
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No idea other than I had heard that they were neck and neck and Trotter had more time on campus. Gonna be a hell of a trial by fire for him though.
I saw a clip of Mosley stating he believes his horrid scrimmage performance was the main reason.
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With all of that said, why the fuck did they start Trotter in the first place?
I think (and this is merely a theory), they were neck and neck in practices and scrimmages, and Trotter got the edge due to Seniority.
However players, especially QBs do not always perform the same at practices & scrimmages as the do in real game situations. I believe (and hope) that Trotter is just one of those guys that can't handle actual gametime pressure, and performs much worse in actual games. Mosely, however, (again, I hope) handles this pressure much better. At least it appears that way from his few snaps he's taken.
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No idea other than I had heard that they were neck and neck and Trotter had more time on campus. Gonna be a hell of a trial by fire for him though.
Are you that stupid?
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Are you that stupid?
Uh oh, trouble.
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Are you that stupid?
Enlighten us, oh wise one...
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Are you that stupid?
Apparently I am.
Let's hear what's ya got Carnac.
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Apparently I am.
Let's hear what's ya got Carnac.
Inka-Dinka-Dew
What do you get on your Inka-Dinka if you leave it out all night?
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I must be that stupid too since my post I started writing before Sani & djsimp posted theirs ended up being completely redundant of their two posts.
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I must be that stupid too since my post I started writing before Sani & djsimp posted theirs ended up being completely redundant of their two posts.
Yeah, well you thought you could have three #15's on the same side of the ball. What a maroon.
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Inka-Dinka-Dew
What do you get on your Inka-Dinka if you leave it out all night?
Clean air, a virgin and a gas station open on Sunday.
Name three things you won't find in Los Angeles?
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Clean air, a virgin and a gas station open on Sunday.
Name three things you won't find in Los Angeles?
Old wive's tale
What do cannibals find hard to digest?
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Bunch of dumb motherfuckers.
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Bunch of dumb motherfuckers.
Oh, so you didn't think Trotter and Mosely were neck and neck? Pffffft
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Old wive's tale
What do cannibals find hard to digest?
"Breaking Away" and "Here's Boomer."
What are two bad names for a laxative?
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"Breaking Away" and "Here's Boomer."
What are two bad names for a laxative?
Skalliwag
What does your skalli do when it's happy?
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Skalliwag
What does your skalli do when it's happy?
An unmarried woman.
What was Elizabeth Taylor between 3 and 5 pm on June 1, 1952?
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An unmarried woman.
What was Elizabeth Taylor between 3 and 5 pm on June 1, 1952?
Ben Gay
Why didn't Mrs. Franklin have any kids?
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Ben Gay
Why didn't Mrs. Franklin have any kids?
Blazing Saddles.
What do they put on horses at the Preparation H Ranch?
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Blazing Saddles.
What do they put on horses at the Preparation H Ranch?
Hickory Dickory Dock
Who do you go to if you have a pain in your hickory dickory?
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Hickory Dickory Dock
Who do you go to if you have a pain in your hickory dickory?
Deep freeze.
Name an Eskimo porno film.
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Deep freeze.
Name an Eskimo porno film.
Rub-a-dub-dub
What does a masseuse do to your dub dub?
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I guess you really are that stupid. No need for an explanation.
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Rub-a-dub-dub
What does a masseuse do to your dub dub?
Sissss, Boooom, Baaaaah!
Describe the sound you hear when a sheep blows up!!
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I guess you really are that stupid. No need for an explanation.
I is not.
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Sissss, Boooom, Baaaaah!
Describe the sound you hear when a sheep blows up!!
Igloo
What do you use to keep your ig from falling off?
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Igloo
What do you use to keep your ig from falling off?
Ben Gay.
Why didn't Mrs. Franklin have any kids?
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Ben Gay.
Why didn't Mrs. Franklin have any kids?
Snaggle is not gonna be happy with you.
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Ben Gay.
Why didn't Mrs. Franklin have any kids?
Ooooohhhh....I'm sorry. That was used a few posts back. Apparently, you are that stupid. But, we've got some nice parting gifts for you. Johnny, tell em' what they've won.
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Ooooohhhh....I'm sorry. That was used a few posts back. Apparently, you are that stupid. But, we've got some nice parting gifts for you. Johnny, tell em' what they've won.
Apparently I am.
Until he gets caught.
How long does a United States Congressman serve?
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Apparently I am.
Until he gets caught.
How long does a United States Congressman serve?
Dustin Hoffman
Describe someone cleaning their Hoffman
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Dustin Hoffman
Describe someone cleaning their Hoffman
Christopher Walken.
What's the opposite of Christopher Reeve?
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Christopher Walken.
What's the opposite of Christopher Reeve?
Rose Bowl
What do you say when it's Rose's turn at the bowling alley.
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Rose Bowl
What do you say when it's Rose's turn at the bowling alley.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G.
What were some of the earlier forms of Preparation H?
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A, B, C, D, E, F, G.
What were some of the earlier forms of Preparation H?
Pork chops.
What would happen if you crossed a pig with a black belt in karate?
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I is not.
Well at least he didn't call you a fuckstick, that one really stings.
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Well at least he didn't call you a fuckstick, that one really stings.
What the hell are you talking about fuckstick?
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Pork chops.
What would happen if you crossed a pig with a black belt in karate?
David Frost
On a cold morning, what forms on your David?
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David Frost
On a cold morning, what forms on your David?
Severe frostbite.
What happens when you cross a snowman with a vampire?
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Enlighten us, oh wise one...
You don't suppose maybe Gus was just trying to give Mosley a little pat on the back, and a "go get em Tiger" via the press do you? Just a little shot in the arm before he sends him in to the Arena against one of the best defenses in the nation?
Or maybe he should have simply told the truth all the way around: "Look, Trotter won the battle on the practice field. We thought he gave us the best chance to win. He's a fighter, and a leader. But, when the lights came on, he froze up. We're playing Clint just because it was time for a change and we're hoping for the best."
Or do you all think they looked at Trotter and Mosley back in August, and said, "Yeah, Mosley's really got it all, and he's beat the shit out of Trotter on every rep, but fuck it, lets play Trotter, the pornstache looks cool!"
You seriously ask, after those couple of statements that amount to little more than mere puffery, "why Did they start Trotter to begin with?"
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There's a reason we were slobbering all over Russell Wilson
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There's a reason we were slobbering all over Russell Wilson
That's easy to see now. We'd be at least 6-1 with him.
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That's easy to see now. We'd be at least 6-1 with him.
Yet he was a waste of time according to many AU fans. After all we were running 3 deep with a Jr, a RS Soph and a stud Frosh. None of which could WIN the job outright.
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Yet he was a waste of time according to many AU fans. After all we were running 3 deep with a Jr, a RS Soph and a stud Frosh. None of which could WIN the job outright.
Ok, what's your point?
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Or do you all think they looked at Trotter and Mosley back in August, and said, "Yeah, Mosley's really got it all, and he's beat the shit out of Trotter on every rep, but fuck it, lets play Trotter, the pornstache looks cool!"
I didn't realize the phrase "neck and neck" meant that one person beat the shit out of the other...
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3899/tmyk.jpg)
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I didn't realize the phrase "neck and neck" meant that one person beat the shit out of the other...
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3899/tmyk.jpg)
So, you think Coaches always tell it exactly the way it is? They close practice for a reason. They said neck and neck, but who the fuck knows. I know this for a fact, they put Trotter out there because for whatever their reasoning, they figured him to give us the best chance of winning. It's that simple.
The coach rhetoric in the papers is meaningless. I mean this "he has some gunslinger in him" bit caused someone to ask "then why'd they ever start Trotter" as if to insinuate they were never "neck and neck" and Mosley has all these wonderful traits they simply ignored, and Trotter had none. I have no idea who did what in practice, if they really believed it was neck and neck, if they were just saying that to push Trotter, or motivate Mosley.
Are you getting this?
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So, you think Coaches always tell it exactly the way it is? They close practice for a reason. They said neck and neck, but who the fuck knows. I know this for a fact, they put Trotter out there because for whatever their reasoning, they figured him to give us the best chance of winning. It's that simple.
The coach rhetoric in the papers is meaningless. I mean this "he has some gunslinger in him" bit caused someone to ask "then why'd they ever start Trotter" as if to insinuate they were never "neck and neck" and Mosley has all these wonderful traits they simply ignored, and Trotter had none. I have no idea who did what in practice, if they really believed it was neck and neck, if they were just saying that to push Trotter, or motivate Mosley.
Are you getting this?
You asked if all of the people in this thread thought that Moseley beat the shit out of Trotter in practice; I wasn't sure why, seeing as most people in this thread seem to be of the opinion that it was neck and neck. It was particularly confusing because your first reply was to Sani, who expressly stated that he thought they must have been neck and neck.
Sure, coaches don't kiss and tell about everything in the media; if Moseley had performed like a one-legged retard (see Chris Todd), I'm sure the coaches would have said that he put up a "good effort" and that it was a "close race," or whatever sugar-coated phrases they wanted to use.
But when you've got multiple coaches and players stating for the record that it was a close call, in addition to the fact that the starting quarterback wasn't named until 16 days before the first game, then the information that we are given does tend to indicate that it was neck and neck.
Now, we can theorize all day about whether "coachspeak" was used, to what degree it was used, and how we should interpret it, but as you said, the practices were closed; this "coachspeak" and the actions of the coaches (e.g., not naming a starter until late August) are the only indicators we have. I don't see any reason to lambaste everyone by telling them how stupid they are for thinking that it was neck and neck when, in actuality, you don't know for sure either. The only thing we have to go off of are the coaches' statements and their actions, both of which seem to indicate that it was a close race.
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You asked if all of the people in this thread thought that Moseley beat the shit out of Trotter in practice; I wasn't sure why, seeing as most people in this thread seem to be of the opinion that it was neck and neck. It was particularly confusing because your first reply was to Sani, who expressly stated that he thought they must have been neck and neck.
Sure, coaches don't kiss and tell about everything in the media; if Moseley had performed like a one-legged retard (see Chris Todd), I'm sure the coaches would have said that he put up a "good effort" and that it was a "close race," or whatever sugar-coated phrases they wanted to use.
But when you've got multiple coaches and players stating for the record that it was a close call, in addition to the fact that the starting quarterback wasn't named until 16 days before the first game, then the information that we are given does tend to indicate that it was neck and neck.
Now, we can theorize all day about whether "coachspeak" was used, to what degree it was used, and how we should interpret it, but as you said, the practices were closed; this "coachspeak" and the actions of the coaches (e.g., not naming a starter until late August) are the only indicators we have. I don't see any reason to lambaste everyone by telling them how stupid they are for thinking that it was neck and neck when, in actuality, you don't know for sure either. The only thing we have to go off of are the coaches' statements and their actions, both of which seem to indicate that it was a close race.
Ok then. It's not worth more effort.
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Ok then. It's not worth more effort.
Wiped his ass.
What did the cannibal do after he dumped his girlfriend?
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Agree with the verbose lawyer (Well, the more verbose lawyer).
It's not like we're just now hearing it was neck and neck all along. It's not like Auburn fans weren't a veritable 50/50 split on team Moseley or team team Trotter. It's not like we were hearing that Cam was "neck and neck" with Trotter last year 16 days before the season started.
All indications, both what we've heard from coaches and players, as well as what we've seen in the actual games, is that Moseley, at the very least, is as capable, and appears to be more composed than Trotter in live game situations.
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Agree with the verbose lawyer (Well, the more verbose lawyer).
It's not like we're just now hearing it was neck and neck all along. It's not like Auburn fans weren't a veritable 50/50 split on team Moseley or team team Trotter. It's not like we were hearing that Cam was "neck and neck" with Trotter last year 16 days before the season started.
All indications, both what we've heard from coaches and players, as well as what we've seen in the actual games, is that Moseley, at the very least, is as capable, and appears to be more composed than Trotter in live game situations.
At first I didn't believe them that it was neck and neck. Now, yeah, I do. I think they chose Trotter on the tad bit more experience he had in the offense. And, I think they knew he'd struggle a bit, but hoped the early schedule would help him understand game speed. Instead he become more and more afraid to pull the trigger. Actually have to believe now that IF Mosley was really neck and neck, and he's the cockier of the two, and will go out their and at least make decisions and try to make a play, we'll be ok.
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At first I didn't believe them that it was neck and neck. Now, yeah, I do. I think they chose Trotter on the tad bit more experience he had in the offense. And, I think they knew he'd struggle a bit, but hoped the early schedule would help him understand game speed. Instead he become more and more afraid to pull the trigger. Actually have to believe now that IF Mosley was really neck and neck, and he's the cockier of the two, and will go out their and at least make decisions and try to make a play, we'll be ok.
Then what are we arguing about?
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Then what are we arguing about?
I never argued shit. I said RWS' question based on the rhetoric was fucking stupid. It was. VandyVol starts formulating a response before he's understood what he's reading.
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I never argued shit. I said RWS' question based on the rhetoric was fucking stupid. It was. VandyVol starts formulating a response before he's understood what he's reading.
RWS? Me formulating responses without reading?
Sorry, but if your response was to RWS, then you didn't make that very clear by responding to a post written by Sani. I mean, I know Sani's crazy, but he's not Bammer crazy, so they can't be the same person.
No idea other than I had heard that they were neck and neck and Trotter had more time on campus. Gonna be a hell of a trial by fire for him though.
Are you that stupid?
And then there was the response to WE!!!, which asked "do you all think" that Moseley "beat the shit" out of Trotter. Aside from RWS's post, there hasn't been anyone who even remotely indicated that Moseley beat the shit out of Trotter at any point in time.
So, yet again, I was confused as to who was being included in the "you all" category, especially when the initial reply was directed toward Sani, who never stated that Moseley beat Trotter hands down, and the second reply was directed to WE!!, who, to my knowledge, has also never stated that Moseley outperformed Trotter beyond the shadow of a doubt. That would be why I formulated a response which pointed out that most people on this thread thought the two had been neck and neck prior to the season.
I formulates 'em likes I sees 'em.
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I finally see the disconnect here.
:facepalm:
My fault. I was apparently :pwnd: by teh quote function. My original response of "Are you that stupid?" was supposed to be to this:
With all of that said, why the fuck did they start Trotter in the first place?
Sorry Sani!
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I finally see the disconnect here.
:facepalm:
My fault. I was apparently :pwnd: by teh quote function. My original response of "Are you that stupid?" was supposed to be to this:
Sorry Sani!
No worries.
Stupid is as stupid does.
plus we got a whole two pages of Johnny Carson quotes.
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No worries.
Stupid is as stupid does.
plus we got a whole two pages of Johnny Carson quotes.
That hurt, but I deserved it I guess. :bar:
The Carnac stuff was good though.
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That hurt, but I deserved it I guess. :bar:
The Carnac stuff was good though.
I showed my stupidity in the quotes.
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I showed my stupidity in the quotes.
I love it when you post, stupid or not. That avatar is hot.
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So, Sani's not stupid?
Well, after all this discussion, I have come to the conclusion that if Trotter and Mosely are truly neck and neck....we're fucked.
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You don't suppose maybe Gus was just trying to give Mosley a little pat on the back, and a "go get em Tiger" via the press do you? Just a little shot in the arm before he sends him in to the Arena against one of the best defenses in the nation?
Or maybe he should have simply told the truth all the way around: "Look, Trotter won the battle on the practice field. We thought he gave us the best chance to win. He's a fighter, and a leader. But, when the lights came on, he froze up. We're playing Clint just because it was time for a change and we're hoping for the best."
Or do you all think they looked at Trotter and Mosley back in August, and said, "Yeah, Mosley's really got it all, and he's beat the shit out of Trotter on every rep, but fuck it, lets play Trotter, the pornstache looks cool!"
You seriously ask, after those couple of statements that amount to little more than mere puffery, "why Did they start Trotter to begin with?"
And? The coaches are the ones making it out like the kid is the best thing since sliced bread, and always was from day one. It's not my fault that, in an attempt to "puff him up" and a pat on the back, that what they are saying about him doesn't make a whole lot of sense given the situation halfway into the season.
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Wait a minute:
Somebody with a gun held down Mosely and stuck something in him?
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Wait a minute:
Somebody with a gun held down Mosely and stuck something in him?
No, no, no.
He and Fav-ruh played "just the tip."
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I finally see the disconnect here.
:facepalm:
My fault. I was apparently :pwnd: by teh quote function. My original response of "Are you that stupid?" was supposed to be to this:
Sorry Sani!
I still love you, if that counts for anything.
:wartim:
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No, no, no.
He and Fav-ruh played "just the tip."
How is this so? I thought Fav-rah was considered to be a big gunslinger?
We need the real story.
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How is this so? I thought Fav-rah was considered to be a big gunslinger?
We need the real story.
Not familiar with the post-date, bad-decision game "just the tip", huh?
It's ok, AWK will be happy to introduce you.
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And? The coaches are the ones making it out like the kid is the best thing since sliced bread, and always was from day one. It's not my fault that, in an attempt to "puff him up" and a pat on the back, that what they are saying about him doesn't make a whole lot of sense given the situation halfway into the season.
Eat shit and live. You are THAT stupid.
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How is this so? I thought Fav-rah was considered to be a big gunslinger?
No, not so much...it's just the Wranglers he's wearing that make it appear that way.
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#14 Barrett Trotter Att Comp Int Pct Yards TD Long Sack-Yds Effic
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UTAH STATE............ 23 17 0 73.9 261 3 56 2-15 212.28
Mississippi State..... 23 16 1 69.6 146 2 46 1-10 142.89
Clemson............... 25 12 1 48.0 198 1 41 1-1 119.73
Florida Atlantic...... 28 16 1 57.1 178 2 51 3-11 126.97
South Carolina........ 23 12 2 52.2 112 1 23 4-21 90.03
Arkansas.............. 19 6 1 31.6 81 0 44 1-4 56.86
Florida............... 8 2 0 25.0 33 1 25 1-6 100.90
TOTALS................ 149 81 6 54.4 1009 10 56 13-68 125.34
The numbers obviously reflect the problem where Trotter is concerned. This just isn't the same QB that started the season, not in confidence or accuracy. Agaisnt Utah State and MSU, he put up very solid numbers and seemed to throw the ball with good confidence. Early on, he looked good against Climpsum, mainly because they were pounding the ball in the first quarter and a half. When Climpsum started getting after him a little, he began his suckage. He was very average to below average against Florida Epileptic and USCe, throwing 3 picks and as you can tell, it was a downhill slide from there. No confidence, badly missing wide open receivers, leaving the pocket too soon...
Having said that, my hope is that Mosely can come in and look at least as good as Trotter did early on. Nothing great, just solid play, running the offense. Make LSU at least have to respect the pass.
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Make LSU at least have to respect the pass.
I certainly think that this will be the case but they will still stack the box to make Mosley punish them for it. I do like that fact that there is somewhat of a surprise element that Auburn has with Mosley at QB. With no real game tape to breakdown, LSU is left guessing a wee bit.
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I certainly think that this will be the case but they will still stack the box to make Mosley punish them for it. I do like that fact that there is somewhat of a surprise element that Auburn has with Mosley at QB. With no real game tape to breakdown, LSU is left guessing a wee bit.
The mere mention of Moseley's name strikes fear in the hearts of opposing DC's. Kind of like when an insurance company gets a letter of rep from me.
"Quick, assemble the defense team in the conference room. What's our policy limits".
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The mere mention of Moseley's name strikes fear in the hearts of opposing DC's. Kind of like when an insurance company gets a letter of rep from me.
"Quick, assemble the defense team in the conference room. What's our policy limits".
Mosley comes from the Leroy lineage. You better be scared.
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The mere mention of Moseley's name strikes fear in the hearts of opposing DC's. Kind of like when an insurance company gets a letter of rep from me.
"Quick, assemble the defense team in the conference room. What's our policy limits".
This post has true quality. I rofl'ed.
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The mere mention of Moseley's name strikes fear in the hearts of opposing DC's. Kind of like when an insurance company gets a letter of rep from me my wife gets that angry look in her eyes.
Fixt.
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Fixt.
I understand what a wine bottle upside the head feels like.