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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on October 17, 2010, 09:06:22 AM
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Before we begin, we need to discuss an established problem that plagues the SEC.
The Officiating...
- I'm an Auburn fan, but I'll be the first to admit that a few of our touchdowns were total bullshit. The replay officials must have been blind or must have been so obsessed with the "conclusive evidence" rule that they were unwilling to overturn two calls on the field that went Auburn's way.
- But before rival fans jump up and down and say "Auburn won THIS game because of bad calls," the officials have helped numerous teams over the years win football games when it may have been possible for them to lose.
- Bad celebration calls. Bad fumble calls (who signaled touchdown when Fannin apparently fumbled going into the endzone?). Bad pass interference calls. Bad late hit calls. These bad calls happen enough that I believe it's time to take a big roll of toilet paper and wipe the shit stains off of the SEC asshole.
- Why not start over? Why not open up a few jobs and offer a little more money and snag a few refs from other conferences? Or better yet, why not increase the standards required to be an SEC official?
- I, for one, am tired of seeing horrendous officiating in the premier league of college football. It's either time to get rid of Penn Wagers or open up the replay booth to review penalties and also give them the power to overturn a call based on common sense. It may not have been conclusive that Mario Fannin fumbled before the endzone, but it sure as hell wasn't conclusive that he crossed the goal line. For that play, I'm sorry Arkansas for the bullshit.
Auburn...
- But we still kicked your ass offensively. Auburn's offense continues to churn out huge numbers led by superfreak Cam Newton. I love it. I love that it's a high school offense that works in the SEC. I love that we look like the 6A school playing a 3A school on homecoming every week.
- I love that we play "All I Do is Win" before games and then actually live up to the theme of the song. We don't necessarily dominate in games, but we make damn sure we win. We fight to make sure we make just a few more plays than the other team to win the football game. This reminds me of the 2002 Ohio State Buckeyes. They fought just hard enough to win every game - albeit, it was a defensive slugfest each week - and they clawed their way to a national championship.
- On to a serious note, the defense needs help. I know this is a "duh" statement, but our defense is seemingly getting worse. We're now going to be dealing with a few injuries in the secondary. I expect to see 350+ passing yards from here on out against us including UT Chattanooga. This is not going to be an easy end to the season.
- LSU, Ole Miss, UT-C, UGA, and Bama. And they're all going to be gunning for us. We're no longer the underdog. In fact, we're the big dog. This is going to be a real Amen Corner experience.
Arkansas...
- This is a tough break because Arkansas did just about everything right. Cam Newton simply was too good to be stopped, so Arkansas had to go on the offensive with a 2nd string quarterback.
- The guy was phenomenal. Great reads. Perfect throws. He really put his team in a position to win, but the defense just couldn't hold up. At the end, his inexperience cost his team the game, but it was still a valiant effort for a guy that was thrown into the fire.
- I thought this year was the year for Arkansas, but with this kid taking over next year, Arkansas will be just as good without Mallett.
South Carolina...
- I think you could see it on Spurrier's face after the game. I think you could see, "Well, this is still the South Carolina program, and we'll always suck" projecting from his eyes.
- Spurrier pulled a Les Miles. But before we laugh and point fingers, we must ask, "Why would Steve Spurrier, one of the most sound coaches in history, pull a Les Miles?"
- South Carolina has a history of losing. They also have a history of almost turning the corner and then losing anyway. History was staring Spurrier in the face. He had to kick history's ass. Kentucky had the momentum. South Carolina might not have even made the field goal. Overtime would have been tough to win because Cobb and Locke and Hartline were all on their game. So he went for the homerun ball hoping he'd have a few seconds left to kick the field goal if needed. But the pass was intercepted and South Carolina lost. You ask, "Why did this happen?"
- Because it's South Carolina and this is their history. They're the low country for a reason.
- So who actually wants to win the East? South Carolina is still in the driver's seat, but they have to play Arkansas and Florida. And if Arkansas beats South Carolina and if South Carolina beats Florida and Kentucky beats Georgia and the rest of the games go the way they should, then you'll have...
- Kentucky in the SECCG.
Florida...
- You suck. HAHAHAHAHA.
Alabama...
- Ho-hum. Mediocre. Typical.
- I even fell asleep through some of this game. Alabama's games are almost scripted this year. Ingram and Richardson get stuffed. McElwain tries to put the game on McElroy's shoulders. McElory and Co are JUST good enough to score a few points on an overmatched defense. Bama's defense makes big plays to ensure a victory.
- It's the Sabam formula. A dominating defense and a "don't screw it up" offense.
- I am underwhelmed at McElwain's play calling. It is becoming a bit predictable, but more so, the strategy just seems off. It might not have been very obvious last night, but the way Ole Miss's offense was playing, Alabama should have had 35 points in the first half.
Ole Miss...
- I guess this is what Ole Miss will always be. Horrible. Houston Nutt needs to retire and then come back in a few years at a school like Wyoming. That was some of the worst play calling I've ever seen, and their offense looked like they had never played in a game before.
Georgia...
- So NOW you decide to be a good football team. Well I hope this recent streak of dominating performances ends well before November 13th.
Oklahoma State/Michigan State...
- Undefeated. Ranked #20. / Undefeated. Ranked #13. Why aren't they ranked higher? Tradition and performance from last year. You can formulate your own opinion on that one.
Ohio State...
- This, Ohio State, is why I've been so critical about your schedule. Playing cupcakes does not prepare you for the tough games required to win a national championship. I'll forgive you for Miami being mediocre, but these patsy teams you've played have actually be detrimental to your championship run despite you winning them.
- Wisconsin hit you in the mouth, and it was the first time this season you had been hit in the mouth. You're the spoiled rich girl who doesn't understand a lick about hard work. You're handed top rankings every year. You're glorified and fawned over by all the media gurus. You read about how great you are in the papers after defeating "tough" conference foes like Indiana. You're automatically vaulted to #1 despite having nothing but the name Ohio State to back up the ranking.
- And then you got hit in the mouth. And then you lost.
USC...
- Well, with the way this season has gone, we need to start learning USC's cheers.
- I believe we will get left out of the national championship if we go undefeated. I just can't shake that ominous feeling that the voters are either A) Stupid or B) Bama fans.
- Therefore, I want all of the teams in front of us to lose. Ohio State lost. Nebraska lost. Now we need Oregon and Oklahoma to lose.
- In two weeks, Oregon will travel to the Coliseum. Fight On.
LSU...
- "We, uh, you see, Jordan Jefferson is a damn fine, uh, I mean, what I mean is, you see, we were looking ahead, not against McNeese St, but when we finished with Florida, we, um, looked ahead to Auburn, because we, uh, you see these guys are, this quarterback, like Jordan, uh, is really good, and we, uh, Gary and I, we had to look ahead to, uh, getting these men, our boys, inspired to beat Auburn."
Nebraska...
- Overrated much? Taylor Martinez the greatest since Frazier? The Black Shirt Defense is back? Revenge against Texas? What was that you were saying?
My Wet Dream...
- We go undefeated. Beat Bama. Win the SEC. Head to Glendale and find Boise State waiting on us. That would make me happy.
Rankings...
- I heard the guys on CBS talking before the game, and one of the dipshits said something along the lines of, "Well, Oklahoma, Ohio State, and Oregon were all ranked ahead of Auburn in the preseason polls, so that's just the way it is."
- This is why college football is walking a very thin line. It's very close to being laughed out of the sports world, and it just so happens that every year, a few upsets happen to keep it relevant.
- Imagine a world where the NFL playoffs have three tournament brackets. At the end of the three weeks of playoffs, there are three teams leftover. Two of them are chosen to play in the Super Bowl and one goes home.
- Imagine a world where after the Elite 8 in the NCAA basketball tournament, 1 team gets a bye week, two teams play in an elimination game, and 1 team goes home. Why? Because the tournament committee deliberated and determined that 1 team was good enough to get rest for the championship and 1 wasn't worthy of even being there.
- That's the college football world. If Oklahoma, Oregon, Boise State, TCU, Michigan State, and Auburn all go undefeated, who do you leave out? And when you leave a team out, what reason do you give for leaving them out?
- Let's look at the possible reasons:
1. Oklahoma - Oklahoma defeated a weak Texas team and struggled against a weak nonconference opponent, Utah State. Sure they went on to defeat Missouri @Missouri and defeated Oklahoma State in Stillwater and won the Big 12 championship against Nebraska, but they didn't do enough to impress the voters to be one of the two teams in Glendale. And they really needed to impress the voters because we all know how Oklahoma performs in BCS games. They lose. They lost BCS games the last few years, so we know that's what will happen this year.
2. Oregon - Oregon plays in the PAC 10, which really isn't as competitive as the SEC or the Big 12. With USC being on probation, that win isn't as impressive as it once was. Their nonconference has left a lot to be desired as they only played New Mexico and Portland State. Tennessee, even though Oregon had no control over this, is horrible and should not be taken into consideration.
3. Boise State - Boise State, despite being undefeated, despite defeating good BCS opponents, despite winning every non conference game since playing Georgia in 2006, doesn't deserve to play in the BCSCG. They play in a weak conference, and despite blowing out every one of those teams, they haven't done enough to impress the voters.
4. TCU - TCU is the odd man out. We aren't going to vote two mid-major teams into the BCSCG - money and tradition purposes - and Boise State began the season ranked higher than TCU. Why? Because Boise State won the Fiesta Bowl last year against TCU, and we all know that what happened last year directly influences what happens this year.
5. Michigan State - They started ranked outside of the top 15. They don't play Ohio State. They needed trickery to beat Notre Dame. They aren't Michigan.
6. Auburn - Despite winning the SEC and beating four teams once ranked in the Top Ten and beating the defending national champion in their home stadium and having the Heisman Trophy winner, Auburn started ranked too low. Preseason polls gets them again. Maybe if they didn't have a non conference slate of UT-Chattanooga, Arkansas State, and LA Monroe, they would have impressed the voters just enough to get to Glendale.
- You tell me which one of these is a logical explanation for leaving a team out of the national championship game, and I'll start defending the polls for the rest of the season.
- Here's what I propose:
- The FBS is too big. 120 teams? There's no way to determine who is truly the best team. So here's what you do:
- You narrow the FBS to 60 teams. 6 conferences. 10 teams per conference. Conference champions are automatic qualifiers for the playoffs. You can still use a ranking system to determine who the two at-large teams are. Now you have a playoff similar to the NFL.
- What would also make college football better is to eliminate the national championship. Just turn the bowl games into a war of conferences and rotate the schedule each year. "This year, the Pac 10 will square off against the SEC. Who will represent who in the bowl games this year?"
Final Thought...
- Auburn vs. LSU. For all the marbles. Until they both play Bama...
- Auburn's 65 point scorin' offense versus LSU's NFL-ready defense. LSU's peewee level offense versus Auburn's powder puff defense.
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The officiating: Can't dispute anything you said, but I can give a slightly different take on it. Like police, everybody has a front row, Hi-Def., slow motion replay, and all the time they need to look at calls the refs have to make in a split second. And as you can see on the 2 fumble calls, even cameras with fortyeleven different angles that the refs did have, you can't 100% conclusively say they missed them. Yeah, I think they probably did, but it's possible that one of those little leather dimples on the football broke the plane of the goal line on Fannin's goal line carry, and it's possible that the Ark player began losing control of the ball before his knee hit, and it's possible his knee was on top of an Auburn player's hand or arm when we thought it was on the ground. Again, I believe they were missed calls, but honestly have to say: "Bout damn time some of those went our way. Yes some of the late hit calls are horrible this year, and there's always going to be questions on judgment type calls on pass interference and such.
Next question is: Do you really think there's anybody that can do any better? How do you make them better? You can't slow the game down any more than replay does, nor give the refs any more angles to look at than replay, or in better visual quality, and even it's not perfect.
I agree, it's not good often, and sometimes horrible...I just don't have a real solution...by real I mean one that can be logically billed as "will have a reasonable chance to be better than what we have now", and I don't really subscribe to the thinking of "since it's bad, lets just fire and replace people to see if that will change it. I realize there are those that think that way, and can't say they're wrong, just that I don't believe that.
Auburn: Here's the bottom line...As long as Cam remains healthy...Auburn is in every game with a chance to win, as long as time is on the clock. I don't think they felt this way, or knew it until the USCe game, but this offense believes that if the other team gets ahead, we simply go out there and take the lead right back...simple as that. They believe it, and to date, have done just that. This is a far different team offensively than weeks 1-3. Auburn is improving on offense each week. And Malzahn has really and truly done some very good things in the run game. This isn't simply snap it to Cam and let him make a play football. The thing that is so good about this, is that we're going back to some of the most basic old school football there is...the single wing. No, we're not running that, but it's all over our offense. Most offenses use the QB to simply distribute the ball. That gives the defense a 1 man advantage on every snap. When the QB is a run threat, it tilts that advantage back towards level. When you make him basically the tailback, then you tilt that advantage back to 100% level. When you do things like we're doing, you make it so that Auburn can create a man advantage at the point of attack. In other offenses this is done with pulling OL. And that takes time. Auburn can do it with an H-back now, or can still pull OL and overwhelm the defense at the point of attack. Then there's the whole "read option element" to the offense where you simply make them wrong no matter what they do. And when a defense unbalances itself to regain the advantage at the point of attack, well they've played right in to your hands. It's simple, old school football at it's best, and yes, it's run with a monster that is as big as DEs, and faster than most DBs. And, AND, yet, he maintains a 65%ish passing avg, and when we do throw the ball, it's often for a big play. Oh, and for all the mouthy bammers I heard in the off season talking about how "Kodi was supposed to be all that too"....FUCK YOU! I never in my wildest dreams believed Cam would be great, let alone this great, but FUCK YOU!
The defense: Damn. They suck...we knew they did. I don't think they're getting worse, they got gashed by a team I thought would gash them anyway. I know we had an injury yesterday, and don't know the extent of it...if we do lose what experience we have, they will get worse. Fact is, they were never good. Are we going to make LSU's pathetic duo look like Heisman Hopefuls? Probably so...
And you can bet that LSU will come calling with bad intentions this next week. They're going to be there to hit us, and hit us hard...Cam especially.
War Damn Eagle.
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"The defense: Damn. They suck...we knew they did. I don't think they're getting worse, they got gashed by a team I thought would gash them anyway. I know we had an injury yesterday, and don't know the extent of it...if we do lose what experience we have, they will get worse. Fact is, they were never good. Are we going to make LSU's pathetic duo look like Heisman Hopefuls? Probably so..."
I agree, the defense isn't getting worse. But if it's offense that ails you, we can heal your affliction in just sixty easy minutes. It's just adventurous, that's all I can say. Sure we make some stops in the fourth quarter so we might as well go to "prevent" after the half so we can get those turnovers earlier and Malzahn can get the ball back and run 20 or 25 more plays per game.
Our offense gets FG's when Cam gets too winded. I don't think Gus has a remedy for that. A healthy Dyer between the tackles can offset that though.
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Our offense gets FG's when Cam gets too winded. I don't think Gus has a remedy for that. A healthy Dyer between the tackles can offset that though.
If Fannin could be trusted with the ball, this offense would never fail to score. He has great receiving hands for a back, the speed of McCaleb, and the size and power to run between the tackles. If he didn't put the ball on the ground once every 10 touches, he'd be a beast too. IF...IF...It would be a 2 headed monster that would make Ronnie and Carnell look like Pop Warner level back ups.
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Good read THS! Out of all the games this weekend, the AU/Ark game had to be the most intriguing. It sucks though that in this heavyweight fight, there is this thing with the referees. Arkansas, in my opinion, got the shaft on the Fannin TD, but I do think it was the right call on the fumble that Zac took to the house. Along with several shitty calls, this has to be one of the worst officiating jobs this year. What makes it worse is that this has been a common circumstance each week this year. I for one think that the refs have too much control in the game. This at times overwhelms them and they have more to try and balance making for more possibilities of mistakes.
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If Fannin could be trusted with the ball, this offense would never fail to score. He has great receiving hands for a back, the speed of McCaleb, and the size and power to run between the tackles. If he didn't put the ball on the ground once every 10 touches, he'd be a beast too. IF...IF...It would be a 2 headed monster that would make Ronnie and Carnell look like Pop Warner level back ups.
You said it JR. If there were more confidence in Fannin the offense could run to it's peak level. This is unpopular, but the guy has all of the tools and is a pro prospect. And each time he puts the ball on the ground it costs him money and hinders his draft status. Rest assured someone is keeping score, that's the reality!
And someone please move Bates back to SS where he can at least get a running start. Play the frosh at LB, we can do no worse in coverage or missed tackles and we might get more tipped balls, fumbles and devastating crashes.
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And someone please move Bates back to SS where he can at least get a running start. Play the frosh at LB, we can do no worse in coverage or missed tackles and we might get more tipped balls, fumbles and devastating crashes.
I kinda like this idea.
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Our defense sucks plain and simple. I would like to have seen at least some improvement from last year, but it seems to be getting worse instead of better. I am still not sure if it is all Roof's fault because I am beginning to believe the talent in our secondary just is not that good, so we have to blame CTT and his staff for that. However a good coach should be able to make those players at least a little better and I am not seeing it.
They only way we win out is if our offense does not have an off day. They have to play like the did yesterday every game for us to have a chance. They just have to score a lot of points, more than the other side's offense is capable of scoring. That is way too much pressure to put on our offense, so I am afraid they will have an off day against a good team and we will get beat, just hopefully not embarrassed.
Fannin...ugggghhhh! How can a guy that has such good hands catching the ball out of the back field have such a problem holding on to the ball when he is running with it? That "fumble" yesterday was really inexcusable as he was on the goal line and should have been protecting the ball even more than normal, but instead some guy pops his fist in there and knocks it out. He would not have gotten another carry after that. I know Dyer was hurt, but McCalebb seemed just fine.
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Our defense sucks plain and simple. I would like to have seen at least some improvement from last year, but it seems to be getting worse instead of better. I am still not sure if it is all Roof's fault because I am beginning to believe the talent in our secondary just is not that good, so we have to blame CTT and his staff for that. However a good coach should be able to make those players at least a little better and I am not seeing it.
They only way we win out is if our offense does not have an off day. They have to play like the did yesterday every game for us to have a chance. They just have to score a lot of points, more than the other side's offense is capable of scoring. That is way too much pressure to put on our offense, so I am afraid they will have an off day against a good team and we will get beat, just hopefully not embarrassed.
Fannin...ugggghhhh! How can a guy that has such good hands catching the ball out of the back field have such a problem holding on to the ball when he is running with it? That "fumble" yesterday was really inexcusable as he was on the goal line and should have been protecting the ball even more than normal, but instead some guy pops his fist in there and knocks it out. He would not have gotten another carry after that. I know Dyer was hurt, but McCalebb seemed just fine.
I think come money time, most everyone knows who keeps the ball. Mario will still get his touches, same for the rest, it's just that removing that possibility inhibits the choices as an option the team should be able to count on in crunch time. But hey Mario might be the MVP of next weeks game. He certainly has it in him.
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Officiating:
Broderick Green fumble...I must be the smartest mutha fucka in the World, because apparently I'm the only person that saw Craig Stevens left hand/arm underneath Green's knee. That means his knee never made contact with the ground.
Anyone that DVRed it, go back and watch, you'll see where I'm right once again.
As for the Fannin TD, it wasn't a TD, the ball never crossed or touched the white line and there wasn't a TD call on the field by any ref.
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Officiating:
Broderick Green fumble...I must be the smartest mutha phuka in the World, because apparently I'm the only person that saw Craig Stevens left hand/arm underneath Green's knee. That means his knee never made contact with the ground.
Anyone that DVRed it, go back and watch, you'll see where I'm right once again.
As for the Fannin TD, it wasn't a TD, the ball never crossed or touched the white line and there wasn't a TD call on the field by any ref.
I'm as pissed about the disruption of the flow of the game just from the standpoint as a fan. They miss calls but they need to let the teams play so they will not have that payback syndrome on their minds when they do miss one. Call the proceedures, the flagrant personals and the obvious holds but let them play.
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Officiating:
Broderick Green fumble...I must be the smartest mutha fucka in the World, because apparently I'm the only person that saw Craig Stevens left hand/arm underneath Green's knee. That means his knee never made contact with the ground.
Anyone that DVRed it, go back and watch, you'll see where I'm right once again.
As for the Fannin TD, it wasn't a TD, the ball never crossed or touched the white line and there wasn't a TD call on the field by any ref.
No, Prowler. Everyone else noticed it.
However, it wasn't conclusive that the hand was covering the entire part of the knee. If any part of his leg was on the ground, it would have been ruled down.
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I know the response will be that I'm being a homer, but I think both of those were the right call. More questionable with the TD, but I still think it was in.
If anything, I think the bullshit PI and roughing the passer were worse calls than the two that went our way.
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The way I see it, there were bad calls on both sides of the ball. That PI gave them 1st and goal on the one, and they scored. Otherwise that was a 4th down. As far as I am concerned that evens out the TD that wasn't. Besides the game wasn't determined by 7 points.
The other fumble that Ethridge scored on was too close to call. The play on the field was a fumble, I don't think there was anything to overturn either way.
Bottom line the refs did not give us that game, we took it despite the lack of our defense.
This just in, Neiko Thorpe just got burned by my Nephew in our back yard.
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I know the response will be that I'm being a homer, but I think both of those were the right call. More questionable with the TD, but I still think it was in.
If anything, I think the bullshit PI and roughing the passer were worse calls than the two that went our way.
I definitely agree, the PI call was a whore shit call. I want to know why Arkansas' PI on Auburn in the endzone, at the end of the 1st half, wasn't 1st and Goal at the 2? Both of the flags were thrown in the endzone, I figure the officials called it a PI where they threw the flags.
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My Wet Dream...
- We go undefeated. Beat Bama. Win the SEC. Head to Glendale and find Boise State waiting on us. That would make me happy.
As many passing yards as Auburn's defense gives up, I don't think Boise would be my first pick If I were you. They probably can't stop Cam Newton, but they can put up some points. I think I'd set my sights on Oklahoma.
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As many passing yards as Auburn's defense gives up, I don't think Boise would be my first pick If I were you. They probably can't stop Cam Newton, but they can put up some points. I think I'd set my sights on Oklahoma.
There would be something sweet about that, if it was to happen, considering 2004.
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- I thought this year was the year for Arkansas, but with this kid taking over next year, Arkansas will be just as good without Mallett.
If Mallett leaves, Wilson may not start next year. Mallett may not leave, depending on if the NFL is locked out next year.
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If Mallett leaves, Wilson may not start next year. Mallett may not leave, depending on if the NFL is locked out next year.
Rolling 5 deep at QB baby!
You are so full of shit. Wilson looked like a bad ass. You are saying that he would not be the best QB on the team next year? Or are you going to give it to the guy that Petrino "has ranked higher on his board" than Frazier this year?
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Rolling 5 deep at QB baby!
You are so full of shit. Wilson looked like a bad ass. You are saying that he would not be the best QB on the team next year? Or are you going to give it to the guy that Petrino "has ranked higher on his board" than Frazier this year?
Jacoby Walker had a better spring than Wilson before he was injured in our Red/White game. He would have been the #2 QB going into the season.
We're only 4 deep at QB. One of them is a Cam Newton clone.
Wilson is smart. He only recently learned to take snaps from under center. He was in a shotgun/spread system all through high school.
Walker and Brandon Mitchell are studs. I will be surprised if Wilson wins the starting job next year if Mallett leaves early.
I'm full of shit, but not about this.
I'm pretty sure Allen will redshirt his first year.
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Jacoby Walker had a better spring than Wilson before he was injured in our Red/White game. He would have been the #2 QB going into the season.
We're only 4 deep at QB. One of them is a Cam Newton clone.
Wilson is smart. He only recently learned to take snaps from under center. He was in a shotgun/spread system all through high school.
Walker and Brandon Mitchell are studs. I will be surprised if Wilson wins the starting job next year if Mallett leaves early.
I'm full of shit, but not about this.
I make a motion that we move ya'll to the East and let USC come to the West.
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I make a motion that we move ya'll to the East and let USC come to the West.
I'll go for that. We might have a better chance over there.
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Jacoby Walker had a better spring than Wilson before he was injured in our Red/White game. He would have been the #2 QB going into the season.
We're only 4 deep at QB. One of them is a Cam Newton clone.
Wilson is smart. He only recently learned to take snaps from under center. He was in a shotgun/spread system all through high school.
Walker and Brandon Mitchell are studs. I will be surprised if Wilson wins the starting job next year if Mallett leaves early.
I'm full of poop, but not about this.
I'm pretty sure Allen will redshirt his first year.
Yeah but the game experience gives Wilson a significant jump on the competition.
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I make a motion that we move ya'll to the East and let USC come to the West.
But geographically that doesn't make sense...its all about a map.
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But geographically that doesn't make sense...its all about a map.
Don't get him started on that SWC thing.
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Jacoby Walker had a better spring than Wilson before he was injured in our Red/White game. He would have been the #2 QB going into the season.
We're only 4 deep at QB. One of them is a Cam Newton clone.
Wilson is smart. He only recently learned to take snaps from under center. He was in a shotgun/spread system all through high school.
Walker and Brandon Mitchell are studs. I will be surprised if Wilson wins the starting job next year if Mallett leaves early.
I'm full of shit, but not about this.
I'm pretty sure Allen will redshirt his first year.
Whoever it is, when will Petrino be able to better Nutt...hell at least Nutt had Auburn's number.
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Yeah but the game experience gives Wilson a significant jump on the competition.
Wilson has maybe played one game's worth in a year and a half. He did a helluva job yesterday, no doubt. If he would have gotten hurt, there is no doubt that Mitchell could have done the same thing. Petrino is a QB coach.
After the clusterfuck of the last regime, it's a nice feeling to know you have capable backups at the main position.
Yall are probably not familiar with our season opener with UNLV when Nutt was our coach. We played 4 QBs in that one game with little or no success. Matt Jones was left on the bench and did not get to play.
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Whoever it is, when will Petrino be able to better Nutt...hell at least Nutt had Auburn's number.
I'm hoping Saturday. Petrino had yall's number until yesterday. Maybe what goes around comes around.
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I'm hoping Saturday. Petrino had yall's number until yesterday. Maybe what goes around comes around.
Petrino had our number for like one year correct?
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Whoever it is, when will Petrino be able to better Nutt...hell at least Nutt had Auburn's number.
...? You know that Petrino is 2-1 against Auburn, right?
Are you asking when he'll beat Nutt head to head? In that case, the answer is "in about six days".
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I don't think Nutt beat yall at a .666 (devil's number) rate.
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...? You know that Petrino is 2-1 against Auburn, right?
Are you asking when he'll beat Nutt head to head? In that case, the answer is "in about six days".
It better damn well happen. I would much rather see Petrino beat the shit outta Nutt then have that douchebag have something to celebrate about.
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...? You know that Petrino is 2-1 against Auburn, right?
Are you asking when he'll beat Nutt head to head? In that case, the answer is "in about six days".
No, asking when he'll do better than Nutt at Ark. When is Petrino the genius going to have a better record than Nutt the moron? When will he win the SECC? If he can't do it with a guy like Mallet...when will he do it?
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I don't think Nutt beat yall at a .666 (devil's number) rate.
Get serious...2-1 in 3 games vs one team is meaningless....body of work. I don't care which individual team he's beaten once or twice. And you damn well know what I mean. I said it before, I'll say it again...BEST Petrino does is a trip to Atl...leaves with no trophy, and in the end, no better than Nutt the moron.
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Get serious...2-1 in 3 games vs one team is meaningless....body of work. I don't care which individual team he's beaten once or twice. And you damn well know what I mean. I said it before, I'll say it again...BEST Petrino does is a trip to Atl...leaves with no trophy, and in the end, no better than Nutt the moron.
If Petrino stays at Arkansas for 10 years, he will beat the fuck out of Nutt's win/loss percentage. We won't have any of that 4-7 shit once he gets his team set. I look for us to be a consistent 8-9 win team from here on out. I can't believe we will have any losing seasons like Nutt had.
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If Petrino stays at Arkansas for 10 years, he will beat the fuck out of Nutt's win/loss percentage. We won't have any of that 4-7 shit once he gets his team set. I look for us to be a consistent 8-9 win team from here on out. I can't believe we will have any losing seasons like Nutt had.
Well, I suppose "not having a losing season" would better Nutt. Pretty low standard for excellence though. Nutt had a trip to Atl for every losing season too. Can Petrino do that? It's year 3 now by the way. Unless there's a MAJOR shake up, it won't be this year.
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If Petrino stays at Arkansas for 10 years, he will beat the phuk out of Nutt's win/loss percentage. We won't have any of that 4-7 poop once he gets his team set. I look for us to be a consistent 8-9 win team from here on out. I can't believe we will have any losing seasons like Nutt had.
JR knows offense. No way he believes Nutt is on par with Bobby. Nutt can get talent, but he is an offensive graveyard. He's phukin with you.
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JR knows offense. No way he believes Nutt is on par with Bobby. Nutt can get talent, but he is an offensive graveyard. He's phukin with you.
I don't give a shit who is a better OC.
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I don't give a poop who is a better OC.
That would be Gus Malzahn.
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If Petrino stays at Arkansas for 10 years, he will beat the fuck out of Nutt's win/loss percentage. We won't have any of that 4-7 shit once he gets his team set. I look for us to be a consistent 8-9 win team from here on out. I can't believe we will have any losing seasons like Nutt had.
Course Nutt went 9-3 and Tied for 1st in the West his first year, but no credit to Nutt, those were Ford's players...that he went 8-14 with the previous two years. And of course, Nutt gets the blame for Petrino's 5-7 first year, even though Nutt went 18-8 the previous 2 years.
Funny, when you hate a coach, how you can find a way to attribute EVERYTHING bad to him, and credit him with nothing.
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Course Nutt went 9-3 and Tied for 1st in the West his first year, but no credit to Nutt, those were Ford's players...that he went 8-14 with the previous two years. And of course, Nutt gets the blame for Petrino's 5-7 first year, even though Nutt went 18-8 the previous 2 years.
Funny, when you hate a coach, how you can find a way to attribute EVERYTHING bad to him, and credit him with nothing.
How did an Auburn fan get membership in the NuttHugger's club? Or are you a Falcon fan? Maybe yall can get Nutt after Gus leaves and Chizik is canned a few years down the road.
Nah, I wouldn't wish that on yall.
3 years after Nutt, we are making progress. Look at what he is doing to Ole Miss.
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How did an Auburn fan get membership in the NuttHugger's club? Or are you a Falcon fan? Maybe yall can get Nutt after Gus leaves and Chizik is canned a few years down the road.
Nah, I wouldn't wish that on yall.
3 years after Nutt, we are making progress. Look at what he is doing to Ole Miss.
You mean back to back 9 win seasons at Ole Miss? Which, Im sure is a first in modern times. You mean a 9 win season last year, despite his NFL QB tanking on him? Hell, Cutcliffe couldn't do it with Manning. Tubs never did it. Billy Brewer may have had back to back 8 win seasons.
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No, asking when he'll do better than Nutt at Ark. When is Petrino the genius going to have a better record than Nutt the moron? When will he win the SECC? If he can't do it with a guy like Mallet...when will he do it?
That depends on how you want to quantify it.
If we win our bowl game, Petrino will have won in three years as many as Nutt won in 10.
Nutt won 9 in his first season. The next year he won 8. The next year, he won 7. The next year, he won 6. Petrino won 5. Then 8. This year, we should win more than 8. I like where we're trending. That's not even getting into the fact that the SEC West is about 1000x more difficult than it was in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Nutt made two SEC Championship games. 2006 was legit, and we legitimately had a shot in the game against Florida. Unlike many Hog fans, I give him that one. But '02 was bull malarkey. We won a 3-way tie for SECOND and got to go because 1st place Bama was on probation. So, yeah, he "took us to Atlanta" in the course of having a better conference record than Ole Miss and MSU.
This was Petrino's first season with the pieces in place. We lost a heartbreaker to Bama, and we lost on the road to Cam Newton, but I feel good about the prospect of winning out. Even at Auburn, 9-3 or 10-2 isn't TOO disappointing of a season, is it? Are you such an elite program that 9-3 makes you feel like you'll never get to the top? Why should we feel that way at Arkansas?
The "if not with Mallett, when?" is idiotic. Petrino will always have a top-notch quarterback. Always. If you've paid any attention to him at all, you'd know that. He attracts great quarterbacks, and he also develops them into better quarterbacks. Look at what he did with Casey Dick in one freaking season. The question to ask is when Petrino will develop the defense that will enable him to win the conference. I think it will happen. You obviously don't. Time will tell.
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Petrino will always have a top-notch quarterback.
This point I would def agree with. The other point about the D would like to illuminate. He is not a D kind of guy, this can be verified by any point in his coaching tenure. You know, many could same the same the last two seasons with Auburn. The funny thing is, both teams are traditionally known to have some serious f'n strong defenses. What I think folks have to realize is that having this type of offense will take a new era type of DC that can capture the same type of SEC defensive capacity mixed with a D that can come back in because the offense has such a quick strike mentality. Auburn and Arkansas will lead this revolution just because of their abilities. This mentality will have to think outside the box just as our offensive minds have done so. Right now, it just so happens that the two leading the charge in this are the two teams that are putting up gaudy numbers offensively. Do I think this is just coincidence? No, I don't think so. Defensively, it can be done to be that SEC level defense but it will take a DC that has been modernized but have the sense to take historic defenses and tweek them for the modern. (see current OC's).
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That depends on how you want to quantify it.
If we win our bowl game, Petrino will have won in three years as many as Nutt won in 10.
Nutt won 9 in his first season. The next year he won 8. The next year, he won 7. The next year, he won 6. Petrino won 5. Then 8. This year, we should win more than 8. I like where we're trending. That's not even getting into the fact that the SEC West is about 1000x more difficult than it was in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Nutt made two SEC Championship games. 2006 was legit, and we legitimately had a shot in the game against Florida. Unlike many Hog fans, I give him that one. But '02 was bull malarkey. We won a 3-way tie for SECOND and got to go because 1st place Bama was on probation. So, yeah, he "took us to Atlanta" in the course of having a better conference record than Ole Miss and MSU.
This was Petrino's first season with the pieces in place. We lost a heartbreaker to Bama, and we lost on the road to Cam Newton, but I feel good about the prospect of winning out. Even at Auburn, 9-3 or 10-2 isn't TOO disappointing of a season, is it? Are you such an elite program that 9-3 makes you feel like you'll never get to the top? Why should we feel that way at Arkansas?
The "if not with Mallett, when?" is idiotic. Petrino will always have a top-notch quarterback. Always. If you've paid any attention to him at all, you'd know that. He attracts great quarterbacks, and he also develops them into better quarterbacks. Look at what he did with Casey Dick in one freaking season. The question to ask is when Petrino will develop the defense that will enable him to win the conference. I think it will happen. You obviously don't. Time will tell.
You were doing pretty good with that post...well reasoned and thought out, not full of fan bullshit like "those were Ford's players", and hate. But the question of "if not with Mallet, then when?" Is a legit question. Hell, Cutcliffe managed a 10 win season at Ole Miss on the back of Eli Manning. Petrino might attract great HS QBs...few pan out to be GREAT at this level. Mallet, could likely be the best he has for a while, which isn't to say that he won't have good ones.
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That depends on how you want to quantify it.
If we win our bowl game, Petrino will have won in three years as many as Nutt won in 10.
Nutt won 9 in his first season. The next year he won 8. The next year, he won 7. The next year, he won 6. Petrino won 5. Then 8. This year, we should win more than 8. I like where we're trending. That's not even getting into the fact that the SEC West is about 1000x more difficult than it was in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Nutt made two SEC Championship games. 2006 was legit, and we legitimately had a shot in the game against Florida. Unlike many Hog fans, I give him that one. But '02 was bull malarkey. We won a 3-way tie for SECOND and got to go because 1st place Bama was on probation. So, yeah, he "took us to Atlanta" in the course of having a better conference record than Ole Miss and MSU.
This was Petrino's first season with the pieces in place. We lost a heartbreaker to Bama, and we lost on the road to Cam Newton, but I feel good about the prospect of winning out. Even at Auburn, 9-3 or 10-2 isn't TOO disappointing of a season, is it? Are you such an elite program that 9-3 makes you feel like you'll never get to the top? Why should we feel that way at Arkansas?
The "if not with Mallett, when?" is idiotic. Petrino will always have a top-notch quarterback. Always. If you've paid any attention to him at all, you'd know that. He attracts great quarterbacks, and he also develops them into better quarterbacks. Look at what he did with Casey Dick in one freaking season. The question to ask is when Petrino will develop the defense that will enable him to win the conference. I think it will happen. You obviously don't. Time will tell.
Hell, anyone with half a brain can see that wherever Coach Petrino goes, he'll have a really good QB every year. Just look at this past Saturday as a perfect example, Tyler Wilson is going to be a great QB, Coach Malzahn wanted him at Tulsa. Coach Petrino and Coach Malzahn both thought he was a good enough player to extend one of their allotted 25 scholarships to.
I agree with what DJ posted, the Defenses will evolve. It'll, more than likely, take a HS DC to start the evolution in College. I know one thing for sure, you'll definitely need plenty of depth to run a HUNH Defense.
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You were doing pretty good with that post...well reasoned and thought out, not full of fan bullpoop like "those were Ford's players", and hate. But the question of "if not with Mallet, then when?" Is a legit question. Hell, Cutcliffe managed a 10 win season at Ole Miss on the back of Eli Manning. Petrino might attract great HS QBs...few pan out to be GREAT at this level. Mallet, could likely be the best he has for a while, which isn't to say that he won't have good ones.
You're not getting it. Even if Mallett is the most gifted quarterback Petrino ever has, that doesn't mean that Mallett gives Petrino his best shot at an SEC Championship. There will be 10 other Razorbacks on the field with the QB, whoever it is. And 11 others on defense. Besides, football isn't played in a vacuum. The other teams sort of matter as well. I suspect you know all this, but were hoping I wouldn't bring it up, since it cuts your original question off at the knees.
The irony of irony is you, an Auburn fan, asking that question after you witnessed Mallett's backup carve your defense to shreds. And as boartitz said, people are even MORE excited about the third and fourth string. Brandon Mitchell is a Louisiana prospect nobody had heard of because he was supposed to play basketball.... AT UCONN. Think he can get up and down the field? Cannon for an arm, too, supposedly just as strong as Mallett. And of course, we have a commitment from 4* Brandon Allen, Razorback Asst Coach Bobby Allen's son. He'll know Petrino's system inside and out before he takes his first freshman practice.
Our quarterback will never keep us from winning the SEC. Just have to get the other pieces into place.
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You're not getting it. Even if Mallett is the most gifted quarterback Petrino ever has, that doesn't mean that Mallett gives Petrino his best shot at an SEC Championship. There will be 10 other Razorbacks on the field with the QB, whoever it is. And 11 others on defense. Besides, football isn't played in a vacuum. The other teams sort of matter as well. I suspect you know all this, but were hoping I wouldn't bring it up, since it cuts your original question off at the knees.
The irony of irony is you, an Auburn fan, asking that question after you witnessed Mallett's backup carve your defense to shreds. And as boartitz said, people are even MORE excited about the third and fourth string. Brandon Mitchell is a Louisiana prospect nobody had heard of because he was supposed to play basketball.... AT UCONN. Think he can get up and down the field? Cannon for an arm, too, supposedly just as strong as Mallett. And of course, we have a commitment from 4* Brandon Allen, Razorback Asst Coach Bobby Allen's son. He'll know Petrino's system inside and out before he takes his first freshman practice.
Our quarterback will never keep us from winning the SEC. Just have to get the other pieces into place.
hmmm 1000x more difficult than in the late 90's and early 2000's. How's that?
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And of course, we have a commitment from 4* Brandon Allen, Razorback Asst Coach Bobby Allen's son. He'll know Petrino's system inside and out before he takes his first freshman practice.
How can we believe anything you say when you put whatever "star" ranking you want on Arkansas' next best QB? Brandon Allen is a "3*" on scout, rivals and ESPN...
Now, I am not saying that he won't be good, but you bumping up just to make him look good, makes the whole rest of your bullshit post look like....well....bullshit.
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How can we believe anything you say when you put whatever "star" ranking you want on Arkansas' next best QB? Brandon Allen is a "3*" on scout, rivals and ESPN...
Now, I am not saying that he won't be good, but you bumping up just to make him look good, makes the whole rest of your bullpoop post look like....well....bullpoop.
Or maybe I made a mistake. I honestly thought he had 4 stars already. I think that's where he's been projected. But if you want to discount everyhing I said because of that, rock the hell on. Petrino will never find another qb because I said Brandon Allen was a 4* instead of a 3*
Jesus.
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Or maybe I made a mistake. I honestly thought he had 4 stars already. I think that's where he's been projected. But if you want to discount everyhing I said because of that, rock the hell on. Petrino will never find another qb because I said Brandon Allen was a 4* instead of a 3*
Jesus.
I just find it hard to believe that Arkansas has 2 or 3 QB's better than Wilson...
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I just find it hard to believe that Arkansas has 2 or 3 QB's better than Wilson...
Me too. Not to say the other QB's are shit, just that Wilson looks too damn good to not be the starter after Mallet. Hell, he might should be the starter this year.
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I just find it hard to believe that Arkansas has 2 or 3 QB's better than Wilson...
Or on the same level as Mallett, for that matter.
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Or maybe I made a mistake. I honestly thought he had 4 stars already. I think that's where he's been projected. But if you want to discount everyhing I said because of that, rock the hell on. Petrino will never find another qb because I said Brandon Allen was a 4* instead of a 3*
Mistake, or intentional, neither speaks well of the content of your ramblings regarding your assessment of the Petrino/Ark future QB situation. It smacks of just popping off with hopes and dreams, not facts. However, it doesn't have any bearing on whether Petrino will have a good QB or not, just that you won't know it until it happens. Your last sentence is just plain juvenile. It hurts your overall cred.
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Not really saying anything, but we (Auburn) has on few occasions made an avg looking QB look like a Heisman candidate.
See Jarrett Lee in 08
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Not really saying anything, but we (Auburn) has on few occasions made an avg looking QB look like a Heisman candidate.
See Jarrett Lee in 08
We just made a backup that nobody's heard of (and probably won't start again once the 4 star that's really a 3 star gets on campus) look like Joe Mother Fucking Montana's and Peyton Fucking Manning's love child.
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We just made a backup that nobody's heard of (and probably won't start again once the 4 star that's really a 3 star gets on campus) look like Joe Mother Fucking Montana's and Peyton Fucking Manning's love child.
Peyton Montana has balls of steel.
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Peyton Montana has balls of steel.
yeah, and he threw them at our pitiful secondazry** for more than 300 yards.
** that was a typo, but after I considered it, it made sense, so I left it in...
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I just find it hard to believe that Arkansas has 2 or 3 QB's better than Wilson...
Nobody knows who is better. Because Wilson has looked overwhelmed in every meaningful snap he's ever had up until yesterday. People are more excited about Brandon Mitchell because he is a better physical specimen. When they both got into the game in mop up early this year, Wilson looked awful while Mitchell threw an absolutely perfect deep route about 40 yards that fell right through a frosh receivers hands. Best pass thrown by ANY of our QBs this year, Mallett included, and was stone cold dropped.
SOME people are more excited about Jacoby Walker, who had a better Spring game than Wilson. I didn't se the spring game, so I don't know.
The knock on Wilson, in addition to not looking good during his limited action, is that he habitually fumbles the snap taken under center. This poses a problem in a pro style offense. He would sometimes fumble three or four per practice. That is a serious issue. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to know all that. Which is why I don't try to tell you what YOUR backup QB situation is like. Because I have no idea.
I am really surprised at the reluctance to believe that Petrino could stockpile talent at qb, considering Auburn used to have magazine covers hyping their four-headed running attack. Why couldn't we be super deep at qb, where most of our yards come from?
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Why couldn't we be super deep at qb, where most of our yards come from?
I'm not sure, but I think the argument, at least for me, is not the fact Petrino can or can't stock pile QB's. The argument is that the other QB's would be better than Wilson, especially as good as he looked Sat. Of course like GF said, AUburn has a way to make opposing QB's look better than great.
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Of course like JR said, AUburn has a way to make opposing QB's look better than great.
I said that
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I'm not sure, but I think the argument, at least for me, is not the fact Petrino can or can't stock pile QB's. The argument is that the other QB's would be better than Wilson, especially as good as he looked Sat. Of course like JR said, AUburn has a way to make opposing QB's look better than great.
Wilson's performance came out of left field Saturday. He won over a very dubious fan base. I hope he continues to play that way and not the way we have seen in the past. If he does, he's certainly your #1. But he's got to be able to receive a snap under center.
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I said that
Quit playing around with the quote function like that.
You just want all the glory don't you?
Fixt.
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Quit playing around with the quote function like that.
You just want all the glory don't you?
Fixt.
Your damn skippy I do, gots to get it from somewhere.
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I said that
If you said it, then I'm giving you a :thumsup:
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If you said it, then I'm giving you a :thumsup:
I took your response afterwards as agreement ;)
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I took your response afterwards as agreement ;)
Yes, but the :thumsup: beats the living shit out of mere agreement.
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Mallett has teh rocket arm, but no wheels. He's a mortar.
Wilson is a smart bomb.
Walker and Mitchell are nuclear cruise missiles. Got it?
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Prowler, where are those skreets on the Wilson transfer rumors?
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Nobody knows who is better. Because Wilson has looked overwhelmed in every meaningful snap he's ever had up until yesterday. People are more excited about Brandon Mitchell because he is a better physical specimen. When they both got into the game in mop up early this year, Wilson looked awful while Mitchell threw an absolutely perfect deep route about 40 yards that fell right through a frosh receivers hands. Best pass thrown by ANY of our QBs this year, Mallett included, and was stone cold dropped.
SOME people are more excited about Jacoby Walker, who had a better Spring game than Wilson. I didn't se the spring game, so I don't know.
The knock on Wilson, in addition to not looking good during his limited action, is that he habitually fumbles the snap taken under center. This poses a problem in a pro style offense. He would sometimes fumble three or four per practice. That is a serious issue. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to know all that. Which is why I don't try to tell you what YOUR backup QB situation is like. Because I have no idea.
I am really surprised at the reluctance to believe that Petrino could stockpile talent at qb, considering Auburn used to have magazine covers hyping their four-headed running attack. Why couldn't we be super deep at qb, where most of our yards come from?
So you would rather go on conjecture and who might have a better spring rather than the one actually just carved up the #4 team in the country? Hint: I think I would go with guy who just carved up the #4 team in the country.
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So you would rather go on conjecture and who might have a better spring rather than the one actually just carved up the #4 team in the country? Hint: I think I would go with guy who just carved up the #4 team in the country.
But he is seems so well spoken.
How can he be so wrong?
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Prowler, where are those skreets on the Wilson transfer rumors?
He can sit out a year and take Cam's place. Yall want him?
Wait, this is Cam's last year.
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He can sit out a year and take Cam's place. Yall want him?
Wait, this is Cam's last year.
If there is an NFL lockout, it won't be any junior's last year...
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If there is an NFL lockout, it won't be any junior's last year...
Listen to her, she knows. Shes gotz NFL skillz.
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So you would rather go on conjecture and who might have a better spring rather than the one actually just carved up the #4 team in the country? Hint: I think I would go with guy who just carved up the #4 team in the country.
I'd rather you focus more on reading comprehension. As I said, Wilson's performance Saturday came out of left field. It changes things. I'd like to see Wilson play like he did Saturday every time he comes out. But he hasn't. If he had, there wouldn't have been any debate over our future qb. If he continues to play like this, and there IS a legitimate competition for the starting job, then that is about the best problem I think you could ask for.
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I'd rather you focus more on reading comprehension. As I said, Wilson's performance Saturday came out of left field. It changes things. I'd like to see Wilson play like he did Saturday every time he comes out. But he hasn't. If he had, there wouldn't have been any debate over our future qb. If he continues to play like this, and there IS a legitimate competition for the starting job, then that is about the best problem I think you could ask for.
The e-penis is big with this one.
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The e-penis is big with this one.
I think you're just being a douche here.
Dude was pretty clear with his statement and GH whiffed.
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I'd rather you focus more on reading comprehension. As I said, Wilson's performance Saturday came out of left field. It changes things. I'd like to see Wilson play like he did Saturday every time he comes out. But he hasn't. If he had, there wouldn't have been any debate over our future qb. If he continues to play like this, and there IS a legitimate competition for the starting job, then that is about the best problem I think you could ask for.
I'd like you to go re-read yours and titz' posts in this thread fucktard. You guys are still claiming this guy - as of right now- is not the next best QB on your roster (behind Mallet) and basing that off the fact that the other guys had a better spring than this kid. If you were saying this before Saturday, fair enough - but you are still saying it. At least YOU said it changes things.
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I think you're just being a douche here.
Dude was pretty clear with his statement and GH whiffed.
You calling someone a douche is beyond old pals pot and kettle. And no it wasn't a whiff little fella. As the piggies are still saying this guy is not their next best QB - even after his performance Saturday. But thanks for still thinking you are a know it all Wes.
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If there is an NFL lockout, it won't be any junior's last year...
I skeered you with the what if Mallet returns. Remember?
Really . An NFL lockout could make for a helluva college schedule next year. i wish the pros would leave collge athletes alone until they graduate. It would make the college game kick ass. I am not eat up with the pro game. take it or leave it until the playoffs or maybe try to follow some Arkansas players in the pros. I'm not by my TV for a pro game on Sunday like I am on Saturday for an SEC game.
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I skeered you with the what if Mallet returns. Remember?
Really . An NFL lockout could make for a helluva college schedule next year. i wish the pros would leave collge athletes alone until they graduate. It would make the college game kick ass. I am not eat up with the pro game. take it or leave it until the playoffs or maybe try to follow some Arkansas players in the pros. I'm not by my TV for a pro game on Sunday like I am on Saturday for an SEC game.
Not that I WANT it to happen, but I think the lockout makes him think twice. I think more than the normal amount of underclassmen stay in school this year. Except for a couple of dumbasses who just see $$$. Mallet staying one more year is a scary thought.
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I'd like you to go re-read yours and titz' posts in this thread fucktard. You guys are still claiming this guy - as of right now- is not the next best QB on your roster (behind Mallet) and basing that off the fact that the other guys had a better spring than this kid. If you were saying this before Saturday, fair enough - but you are still saying it. At least YOU said it changes things.
Wow. I was just being a smartass earlier. You really can't fucking read, can you? I mean, you can probably say the words aloud as your eyes pass over them, but you apparently haven't fired the "words mean things" synapse just yet.
I'll do it once more. Slowly. I don't know who is better. Or will be better. People are more excited about Brandon Mitchell. That doesn't mean he'll be the starter, or the better quarterback. It means he's better physically. Bigger, taller, and faster. He has an incredibly strong arm, and from all reports, an accurate one as well.
IF he can makeup the ground he is behind Wilson as far as understanding the system goes, and IF he demonstrates the ability to show poise under the spotlight, it will be hard to keep him off the field. The biggest knock on Mallett is his immobility. He's a statue in the pocket. People talk about how dangerous he'd be if he had any wheels at all. Well, Mitchell is said to possess a comparable arm and a comparable build, but also the speed and agility that Mallett lacks. IF it all clicks, then yes, he will be a better quarterback than Wilson. Better than Mallett. IF it clicks. That's why people are more excited about him than Wilson. The upside is greater.
Did you sound all that out okay? I hope you highlighted the words you need to go back and look up the definitions for later.
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You calling someone a douche is beyond old pals pot and kettle. And no it wasn't a whiff little fella. As the piggies are still saying this guy is not their next best QB - even after his performance Saturday. But thanks for still thinking you are a know it all Wes.
When you applied the bitch slap, were you able to generate more force with the downward swing?
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When you applied the bitch slap, were you able to generate more force with the downward swing?
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You lost points for being a bammer. Sorry, hon.
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When you applied the bitch slap, were you able to generate more force with the downward swing?
Asked Saban
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You lost points for being a bammer. Sorry, hon.
I've been making up for short comings my whole life. Hence the kegels.
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How can we believe anything you say when you put whatever "star" ranking you want on Arkansas' next best QB? Brandon Allen is a "3*" on scout, rivals and ESPN...
Now, I am not saying that he won't be good, but you bumping up just to make him look good, makes the whole rest of your bullshit post look like....well....bullshit.
Thought I'd bump this to let you know that Brandon Allen is officially a 4* on Rivals as of today. :vn:
He completed the regular season last Friday with somewhere around 26 touchdowns... and zero interceptions. He plays in the toughest conference in the largest classification in Arkansas. Probably not another Mallett, but everyone is definitely excited about this kid.
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Thought I'd bump this to let you know that Brandon Allen is officially a 4* on Rivals as of today. :vn:
He completed the regular season last Friday with somewhere around 26 touchdowns... and zero interceptions. He plays in the toughest conference in the largest classification in Arkansas. Probably not another Mallett, but everyone is definitely excited about this kid.
Wow...you were really sitting around thinking about this one weren't you? Congrats...here's your cookie.
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Wow...you were really sitting around thinking about this one weren't you? Congrats...here's your cookie.
Haven't slept a wink since October.
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Thought I'd bump this to let you know that Brandon Allen is officially a 4* on Rivals as of today. :vn:
He completed the regular season last Friday with somewhere around 26 touchdowns... and zero interceptions. He plays in the toughest conference in the largest classification in Arkansas. Probably not another Mallett, but everyone is definitely excited about this kid.
Kenny Rogers says it will take $399.00 to sign him.
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Kenny Rogers says it will take $399.00 to sign him.
No no...he's a 4 star now. Has to be at least 10k. Another star and its 200k. 180k if you are miss state....
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Kenny Rogers says it will take $399.00 to sign him.
And if you act now, he will throw in two Snuggies and a Hex Light ABSOLUTELY FREE!!
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His dad is a coach for the Hogs. I'm pretty sure we can get him for an advance on his allowance and letting him take the station wagon out on Saturday night.