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Title: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Kaos on April 08, 2019, 11:59:21 PM
I'm a little tired of the disrespect being shown Bruce Pearl and the entire AU team. 

That mediocre coach at Tennessee was named Naismith coach of the year.  Pearl was not even a semi-finalist. 

Texas Tech's Beard was the AP Coach of the Year.  

Kermit "First Round Whipped Ass" Davis was SEC Coach of the Year.  

Not a single first team All SEC selection for AU.  Not one. 

Not a single All American mention.  Not first team, not second team, not third team, not Honorable Mention.  Players from Tennessee, Kentucky, Kansas and LSU on there, but none of our guys.  Not even one of the most prolific three-point shooters in the history of the game.  

It's a little bit insulting.  

I hope that disrespect fuels another season of chemistry and intensity.  
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Kaos on April 09, 2019, 09:30:00 AM
Another slap. 

First pre-season top 25 poll is out.  Kentucky, Kansas and UT in Top Ten.  AU 24th.  
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 10:13:09 AM
Just before the SEC tourney, we were what...22-9?  But you're telling me a run that included bitch slapping top 10 Tennessee, winning the SEC tournament, beating a 30-4 opening round opponent, then working over Kansas, North Carolina and Kentucky, not to mention getting screwed in the Final 4 while short-handed doesn't garner Pearl some major accolades? 

Horse hockey!!! 
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 02:06:08 PM
Another slap.

First pre-season top 25 poll is out.  Kentucky, Kansas and UT in Top Ten.  AU 24th. 
I get that the true bluebloods reload with the best talent. But the majority of the others ranked in these ridiculous polls above Auburn including Tennessee and Virginia are losing their key components and in most cases as much as two thirds of their offensive production.

UT: Bone, Schofield and Williams.
UVA: Jerome, Guy and Hunter.

Nobody in their right mind could honestly say with a straight face that either of these teams could withstand those loses without a drop off the following season.
Us...we lose a great scorer in Brown but we most certainly return Wiley, who needs more seasoning and Okeke, who probably will need extra recovery time. Plus we have a proven bench to which I credit to very good coaching.



Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Kaos on April 09, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
I get that the true bluebloods reload with the best talent. But the majority of the others ranked in these ridiculous polls above Auburn including Tennessee and Virginia are losing their key components and in most cases as much as two thirds of their offensive production.

UT: Bone, Schofield and Williams.
UVA: Jerome, Guy and Hunter.

Nobody in their right mind could honestly say with a straight face that either of these teams could withstand those loses without a drop off the following season.
Us...we lose a great scorer in Brown but we most certainly return Wiley, who needs more seasoning and Okeke, who probably will need extra recovery time. Plus we have a proven bench to which I credit to very good coaching.
The difference in basketball is other than some win points for bubble teams the rankings take care of themselves.  All we have to do is lace it up and whip that ass. 
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
I have to think Okeke is gone.  While it wasn't over an extended period of time, he put together a nice run that had him showing out in all phases of the game, including defense.  He suffered a significant injury on nothing more than a drive to the basket. I can't see him risking that again for another year in college.  I'd love to have him back but I'd be as surprised as anyone if he didn't declare.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: wesfau2 on April 09, 2019, 02:40:07 PM
I have to think Okeke is gone.  While it wasn't over an extended period of time, he put together a nice run that had him showing out in all phases of the game, including defense.  He suffered a significant injury on nothing more than a drive to the basket. I can't see him risking that again for another year in college.  I'd love to have him back but I'd be as surprised as anyone if he didn't declare.
I think the more pressing question is the length of his rehab.  He might be forced to decide between sitting out a year or return to AU.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 02:43:43 PM
I have to think Okeke is gone.  While it wasn't over an extended period of time, he put together a nice run that had him showing out in all phases of the game, including defense.  He suffered a significant injury on nothing more than a drive to the basket. I can't see him risking that again for another year in college.  I'd love to have him back but I'd be as surprised as anyone if he didn't declare.
So you don't think he needs a season to show that he can recover the athleticism and at least match what he accomplished by and large for the last half of 2019?
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 02:44:56 PM
I think the more pressing question is the length of his rehab.  He might be forced to decide between sitting out a year or return to AU.
Troof
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 02:50:00 PM
So you don't think he needs a season to show that he can recover the athleticism and at least match what he accomplished by and large for the last half of 2019?
Honestly, if it were me, I wouldn't.  As Wes said, it may depend on the length of rehab.  But, I wouldn't test it again unless I was getting $$$.  Blow it out again in college and there's zero chance of an NBA career.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Godfather on April 09, 2019, 02:52:06 PM
Harper will be testing the waters as well, and I would assume Wiley too.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 03:02:55 PM
Honestly, if it were me, I wouldn't.  As Wes said, it may depend on the length of rehab.  But, I wouldn't test it again unless I was getting $$$.  Blow it out again in college and there's zero chance of an NBA career.
Agree but reprove it and he's likely to be a much higher first round pick.
And honestly I don't follow the NBA or know the difference in money between high first round to possibly third.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 03:10:12 PM
Harper will be testing the waters as well, and I would assume Wiley too.
Wiley testing the waters.

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Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 03:18:25 PM
Wiley testing the waters.

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A rotund, arthritic Barkley could help this kid progress. Obviously superior genes wasn't enough. 
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 03:34:40 PM
Harper will be testing the waters as well, and I would assume Wiley too.
Harper could make it on speed and gutsy penetration in the paint. He's a bitch to cover and facilitates mostly in transition although the vast majority of his threes (NBA depth) come from the top of the key. A shorter defender is viewed as a liability of sorts but I would think he might be seen as a real asset in a reserve role.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Godfather on April 09, 2019, 04:00:35 PM
Harper could make it on speed and gutsy penetration in the paint. He's a bitch to cover and facilitates mostly in transition although the vast majority of his threes (NBA depth) come from the top of the key. A shorter defender is viewed as a liability of sorts but I would think he might be seen as a real asset in a reserve role.
You know who else is a real asset Snaggle,  that is if you remove the et.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 04:21:17 PM
You know who else is a real asset Snaggle,  that is if you remove the et.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Things will start coming together for you. 
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
You know who else is a real asset Snaggle,  that is if you remove the et.
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Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 04:27:52 PM
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Those eyes tell it all. He's a cold blooded Eagle Scout. 
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: wesfau2 on April 09, 2019, 04:32:57 PM
Jared just announced his departure for the NBA.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 04:40:10 PM
Jared just announced his departure for the NBA.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!

Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 04:41:31 PM
No worries.  J'Von got this.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 04:52:37 PM
No worries.  J'Von got this.
Oh yeah we have McCormick...pardon my overly exuberant reaction to our maestro's decision to turn professional. 
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2019, 05:06:32 PM
Oh yeah we have McCormick...pardon my overly exuberant reaction to our maestro's decision to turn professional.
Obviously, losing a point guard with that much experience will be a set back.  But in my opinion, Harper could go on a streak of WTF moments, both taking ill-advised, long range 3's, and turning the ball over.  He could also get on fire blowing by defenders and taking it to the rack.  Despite his miss at the FT line at the end of the UVA game, we probably wouldn't have been in the position we were without his clutchability (Take that Clark Kellogg) from the line at the end of games.  Dude was money.

However, McCormick really showed me something during the tourneys.  He was a much better defender than Harper and he was also fearless taking it to the hole.  The great thing about it was he did it against the best out there and didn't seem to blink an eye.  
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 06:36:25 PM
Obviously, losing a point guard with that much experience will be a set back.  But in my opinion, Harper could go on a streak of WTF moments, both taking ill-advised, long range 3's, and turning the ball over.  He could also get on fire blowing by defenders and taking it to the rack.  Despite his miss at the FT line at the end of the UVA game, we probably wouldn't have been in the position we were without his clutchability (Take that Clark Kellogg) from the line at the end of games.  Dude was money.

However, McCormick really showed me something during the tourneys.  He was a much better defender than Harper and he was also fearless taking it to the hole.  The great thing about it was he did it against the best out there and didn't seem to blink an eye. 
Well said Snags. McCormick is a helluva player and you're right,  he seemed unphased by the moment or the competition.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: Kaos on April 09, 2019, 08:13:56 PM
Honestly, if it were me, I wouldn't.  As Wes said, it may depend on the length of rehab.  But, I wouldn't test it again unless I was getting $$$.  Blow it out again in college and there's zero chance of an NBA career.
He can get a kazillion dollar insurance policy and it's not against the rules. 

I'd have to think that the injury dropped him from late first/early second into that gray "maybe third or fourth" territory.  

I'm not him, but if I was I'd get the kaboullion dollar insurance policy and try to play my way into a first round pick.  The only negative is if you suck but are healthy and I don't see that happening.  
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: jmar on April 09, 2019, 08:47:59 PM
He can get a kazillion dollar insurance policy and it's not against the rules.

I'd have to think that the injury dropped him from late first/early second into that gray "maybe third or fourth" territory. 

I'm not him, but if I was I'd get the kaboullion dollar insurance policy and try to play my way into a first round pick.  The only negative is if you suck but are healthy and I don't see that happening. 
Great point. And given the talent that is moving on this year a fully recovered, more refined Okeke could set himself up among the elite in the following draft.


Interesting tidbit...
Don't know how things work anymore but was watching YouTube videos and didn't recall that Larry Bird was drafted by the Celtics as a junior even though he chose to remain at Indiana St. for his senior year.
Auerbach was roasted for wasting a pick that season but he did it anyway as Boston was terrible.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: CCTAU on April 10, 2019, 12:50:07 AM
Spot on about Jared. If I were him, I’d stay and work on even longer and more consistent threes. Add a consistent three to his game and the NBA will work with his height.
Title: Re: Disrespect...fuels?
Post by: GH2001 on April 10, 2019, 08:50:57 AM
He can get a kazillion dollar insurance policy and it's not against the rules.

I'd have to think that the injury dropped him from late first/early second into that gray "maybe third or fourth" territory. 

I'm not him, but if I was I'd get the kaboullion dollar insurance policy and try to play my way into a first round pick.  The only negative is if you suck but are healthy and I don't see that happening. 

Keep in mind too, there are only 2 rounds now....60 picks total....Ive seen Harper rated anywhere from 58th-75th. Thats bottom of 2nd round AT BEST. And ive actually seen only 1 mock with Harper in it. The other major ones dont have him being drafted.

Before the injury, Okeke was in the 15-25 range. Now I see him on most mock drafts 37th at best, others have him 45-50. I think they want to know his knee will be ok so that plays into it being in his best interest to prove his leg is ok and playing his way back into a high lottery pick. If he has a full season and plays like he did the 2nd half of this past season, he would be a top 10 pick. Thats a big money difference. Maybe that will entice him, maybe it wont.