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Pat Dye Field => Beard-Eaves Memorial Coliseum => Topic started by: Jumbo on September 26, 2017, 09:19:13 AM
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BREAKING: Lamont Evans of Oklahoma State and Chuck Person of Auburn University are two of the coaches charged in corruption scheme. Now we’ll lose Pearl and Jacobs :facepalm:
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Motherfucker...
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Now we’ll lose Jacobs :facepalm:
You could always look at the situation as glass half full
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The only thing I've found are some tweeter tweets stating it involved up to 4 assistant coaches around the country and a sports apparel company. No details but my first guess is that it won't have any direct effect on the program other than losing an assistant coach.
As for sucking again, what do you mean "again"?
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The only thing I've found are some tweeter tweets stating it involved up to 4 assistant coaches around the country and a sports apparel company. No details but my first guess is that it won't have any direct effect on the program other than losing an assistant coach.
As for sucking again, what do you mean "again"?
My read of the complaint is that it's a Chuck problem, not an AU problem.
At this time.
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My read of the complaint is that it's a Chuck problem, not an AU problem.
At this time.
I've been reading the write up by the FBI and it says that Person did not pay a player but he did facilitate payment to a player's mother. That would be an AU problem.
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998746/download
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/912675600531443713
Feds allege that Chuck Person agreed to $50K deal to steer player to agent, who was former NBA official & custom clothier Rishan Michel.
https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/912667918944567297
BREAKING NEWS / NBC: The FBI has arrested several NCAA asst. basketball coaches in a corruption scheme. Presser @ 12n with U.S. Attorney
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998746/download
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We're fucked.
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I take back what I said. It looks like an AU problem. :facepalm:
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/912675600531443713
https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/912667918944567297
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998746/download
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We're fucked.
nonsense...we don't have NBA talent.
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The real question is, do we get the Alabama rogue assistant treatment? Or does this break our AD? The way I see it, Pearl is fucked due to his last run ins with rule breaking.
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I take back what I said. It looks like an AU problem. :facepalm:
I’m gonna say no.
Have to prove it.
Nothing to do with Pearl. He will be fine.
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I’m gonna say no.
Have to prove it.
Nothing to do with Pearl. He will be fine.
Highly fucking doubtful considering we hired him as soon as his show cause expired.
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Highly fucking doubtful considering we hired him as soon as his show cause expired.
What Chuck did has nothing to do with him.
Unless he knew or was involved, it's not going to touch him.
I could be massively wrong, but I don't think the NCAA is going to look as harshly at this as it does recruiting inducements. It's going to sting for a while, but most of that sting will be in public perception -- not reality. Part will depend on which players he allegedly, supposedly "steered" and whether they can prove that he actually gave money to the mom (as opposed to lying about it and keeping it himself).
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Curious how much Jacobs and/or Pearl knew about this beforehand or if the arrest was a total surprise? Somebody had to know some bad shipth was coming. Either way, Jacobs needs to step up to the podium today and address it, even if he says we're just gathering the facts at this point. This is where we need a leader, not a looser.
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I’m gonna say no.
Have to prove it.
Nothing to do with Pearl. He will be fine.
Pearl problem? Maybe not directly
An AU problem? Totally. This ain't good. This is FBI RICO shit directly relating to our players and main asst coach.
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Curious how much Jacobs and/or Pearl knew about this beforehand or if the arrest was a total surprise? Somebody had to know some bad shipth was coming. Either way, Jacobs needs to step up to the podium today and address it, even if he says we're just gathering the facts at this point. This is where we need a leader, not a looser.
Do you really want to hear what he has to say?
"I really don't have a reaction other than what the statement was, which is that he wanted to spend more time focusing on things that were important to him and his family," athletics director Jay Jacobs said in a statement. "It's a grind being an assistant coach and having a family; little capos, it's a tough thing. I appreciate him being willing to say, 'You know what, I can't keep doing all of this. I can't have my "family" the way I need to with the time and keep up with all this basketball stuff too.' So, I respect him for stepping out.
"I am very proud of the many great accomplishments our student-athletes have achieved during Coach Person's tenure at Auburn,†Jacobs said. "The foundation for ongoing success is here because of Coach Person's love of Auburn and his desire to see this program reach a level of success that it hadn't seen since I was blocking for Bo Jackson and he and Chuck Barkley (my close personal friend) were playing basketball.
"Looking forward, we will continue to support our basketball team in every way possible so as to ensure their continued success on and off the court.
"I apologize in advance for not being more forthcoming."
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Pearl problem? Maybe not directly
An AU problem? Totally. This ain't good. This is FBI RICO shit directly relating to our players and main asst coach.
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Call Neil Mink. No worries.
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His salary of 240k needed to be "supplemented " for him to be able to stay? And he primarily coached defense. I actually supported hiring this nit wit as the HC one time.
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Going back to the "Storm Brewing" thread started a week or two ago, is this what Marcelo was referencing as in bad stuff was going to come out in a few weeks?
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Going back to the "Storm Brewing" thread started a week or two ago, is this what Marcelo was referencing as in bad stuff was going to come out in a few weeks?
No. From what I've heard, it was the women's basketball program. FBI said today that the NCAA was not aware of this investigation.
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What Chuck did has nothing to do with him.
Unless he knew or was involved, it's not going to touch him.
I could be massively wrong, but I don't think the NCAA is going to look as harshly at this as it does recruiting inducements. It's going to sting for a while, but most of that sting will be in public perception -- not reality. Part will depend on which players he allegedly, supposedly "steered" and whether they can prove that he actually gave money to the mom (as opposed to lying about it and keeping it himself).
Antonio Langham says hi.
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Antonio Langham says hi.
Tell Antonio I said hello.
Was he at a gay club in New Orleans or something?
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His salary of 240k needed to be "supplemented " for him to be able to stay? And he primarily coached defense. I actually supported hiring this nit wit as the HC one time.
Does this really surprise anyone?
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Tell Antonio I said hello.
Was he at a gay club in New Orleans or something?
There were no napkins involved.
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Plus?
The NCAA is going to be so busy skullfucking Louisville they won’t have time to care about us.
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Plus?
The NCAA is going to be so busy skullfudgeing Louisville they won’t have time to care about us.
Yeah, but don't they have a branch in Tuscaloosa?
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Crickets on auburntigers.com and auburn.edu
Not a single mention.
I find that strange. Not Luther, he's a loser. Just odd.
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Listened to two in the know guests on Ferrall on the Bench.
Some named will be used as bait for bigger fish. It's a federal issue not really an NCAA problem right now...but an Auburn problem regardless and not something to be self reported to ease the outcome.
We fucked.
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Something else interesting.
I've watched two different reports about this. Each one used similar phrasing and said Person accepted brobes to steer athletes to agents "after the players went to the NBA..."
If it's after they declared? And given that this thing is going to be huge. And given that as basketball programs go, we're not that big a fish....
It could be less than nuclear. They'd have to show that Auburn gained a competitive advantage. Person goes. A player or two is declared ineligible. We get a year of probation maybe and a stern lecture from that fraud Mark Emmert. Pearl can escape. Jacobs? I don't know. If it were just this, maybe. But it's not.
Louisville is roadkill, though.
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94.5 right now.
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Agree with Kaos. Auburn didn't benefit from a competitive advantage recruiting wise, no other coaches named, so no big hit and no LOIC. Person goes to pound in the ass prison. Players that took money are ineligible. Games they played in are forfeit. Maybe a year ban on post season to tack on?
As long as Pearl didn't know, I think he's good.
If this were the only scandal under Jacobs, I think he would be safe. And I get that he most likely didn't know, but we seem incapable of going 2-3 years without some sort of scandal coming from then athletic department. I just don't see how he keeps his job.
I think tomorrow, Louisville cleans house and the AD and Pitino will be the first to get fired because of this.
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I'm going to admit, this whole thing has been a whole lot of meh to me. Take the chick softball scandal for instance. The truth is that I didn't give 2 fickity fucks about the program until the best player in the game just happened to be from here and a girl my wife taught in school. Otherwise...Pffffffffffttttt!!!! It's chick softball. It's horrible!
I'm not that far off with AU basketball. You guys know I've been very open about the fact that I think Bruce Pearl has grossly underperformed. Basketball is different. 3-4 great recruits and you can turn a program around instantly and put them on the map. Has he recruited great? On paper, yes. But so far, the results have been shit! With the exception of the occasional couple of good years here and there, AU basketball has been the cellar dweller of the weakest Power 5 conference for literally decades. Dating waaaaayyy back. The news that this program might be in big trouble.....meh...wake me when it's over.
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I think Jacob's will be able to deny knowledge.
Pearl? NO!
Both will be fired.
Back to square one.
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And we are back to the black Pearl!
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And we are back to the black Pearl!
Afraid so.
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Hear You Tube of Bamer honk interview with Fox Sports sr. writer Aaron Torres for some specifics or alleged dealings between Person and the Wiley's.
*No video.
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There is no real justice in Alabama. Just look at what The Love Gov got away with
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Looks like Pitino is put on unpaid administrative leave for one year.
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Agree with Kaos. Auburn didn't benefit from a competitive advantage recruiting wise, no other coaches named, so no big hit and no LOIC. Person goes to pound in the ass prison. Players that took money are ineligible. Games they played in are forfeit. Maybe a year ban on post season to tack on?
As long as Pearl didn't know, I think he's good.
If this were the only scandal under Jacobs, I think he would be safe. And I get that he most likely didn't know, but we seem incapable of going 2-3 years without some sort of scandal coming from then athletic department. I just don't see how he keeps his job.
I think tomorrow, Louisville cleans house and the AD and Pitino will be the first to get fired because of this.
Not so sure about that jarhead. Do we really think person didn't use this same power money and influence to land these same players?
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Not so sure about that jarhead. Do we really think person didn't use this same power money and influence to land these same players?
From everything I've read, and I absolutely could be wrong, the players were already in school. Seems like Chuck was pushing them out of school, rather than pulling them in.
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From everything I've read, and I absolutely could be wrong, the players were already in school. Seems like Chuck was pushing them out of school, rather than pulling them in.
See, this is the part that gets questionable. The part we wont really know until the FBI is done looking Auburns way. I just don't have a good feeling about this. Makes me sick.
Another point, how would Pearl not know? I mean, this kind of shit gets around in the AAU circles and more than likely gets around by word of mouth.
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And yet no red flags are raised at an assistant coach loaning players money and boosters "loaning" them cars, rims, houses, suits, laptops, fishing trips, etc., etc., etc.
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Oh, we're about to go under the Colonoscopy of NCAA investigations again.
I just keep going back to Pearl knowing that if anything, and I mean anything, was out of line, the dude would never get a job again. He'd be done. And the amount of money that Person was getting here, we're not talking about fuck you money, or two chicks at the same time money.
And I'm sure that if the FBI could have collard Pearl, they would have done it.
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Oh, we're about to go under the Colonoscopy of NCAA investigations again.
I just keep going back to Pearl knowing that if anything, and I mean anything, was out of line, the dude would never get a job again. He'd be done. And the amount of money that Person was getting here, we're not talking about fuck you money, or two chicks at the same time money.
And I'm sure that if the FBI could have collard Pearl, they would have done it.
I'm sure it will come out, one way or the other. Chuck will probably be singing like a canary if looking at jail time.
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From everything I've read, and I absolutely could be wrong, the players were already in school. Seems like Chuck was pushing them out of school, rather than pulling them in.
With the classes we've hauled in the last three years - ehhhhh I just start getting bad feelings about it like simp said. It starts adding up.
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With the classes we've hauled in the last three years - ehhhhh I just start getting bad feelings about it like simp said. It starts adding up.
You shut your dirty whorish mouth.
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Brandon Marcello seems to believe Pearl will be gone due to a rule passed in 2013 that holds HC responsible for assistants to mention his most recent show-cause penalty. Also, there seems to be two players on Auburns bball roster that are in question and will likely not be playing this year. Something to the effect of these two players moms taking money in amount of 18k. Persons on the other hand accepted somewhere around 100k in one year.
All this proves what so many have said so many times before. The ineffectiveness of controlling the AAU and how deep the AAU has gotten their hands in bball will come to a nuclear explosion eventually.
The birds will be singing soon.
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Brandon Marcello seems to believe Pearl will be gone due to a rule passed in 2013 that holds HC responsible for assistants to mention his most recent show-cause penalty. Also, there seems to be two players on Auburns bball roster that are in question and will likely not be playing this year. Something to the effect of these two players moms taking money in amount of 18k. Persons on the other hand accepted somewhere around 100k in one year.
All this proves what so many have said so many times before. The ineffectiveness of controlling the AAU and how deep the AAU has gotten their hands in bball will come to a nuclear explosion eventually.
The birds will be singing soon.
The USA Today article is the best I've seen so far at summarizing the whole ordeal and how this came to being. And it starts with apparel/shoe makers and the dog n pony show that is AAU and the like. This goes on in football. It just ain't called AAU.
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Brandon Marcello seems to believe Pearl will be gone due to a rule passed in 2013 that holds HC responsible for assistants to mention his most recent show-cause penalty. Also, there seems to be two players on Auburns bball roster that are in question and will likely not be playing this year. Something to the effect of these two players moms taking money in amount of 18k. Persons on the other hand accepted somewhere around 100k in one year.
All this proves what so many have said so many times before. The ineffectiveness of controlling the AAU and how deep the AAU has gotten their hands in bball will come to a nuclear explosion eventually.
The birds will be singing soon.
He needs to shut his pie cake.
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The USA Today article is the best I've seen so far at summarizing the whole ordeal and how this came to being. And it starts with apparel/shoe makers and the dog n pony show that is AAU and the like. This goes on in football. It just ain't called AAU.
No doubt. Its perty goodn. Actually, the AAU has gotten its dirty hands in football too. Headquarters is in Pensacola and just so happens to be several x-bama players all in it.
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No doubt. Its perty goodn. Actually, the AAU has gotten its dirty hands in football too. Headquarters is in Pensacola and just so happens to be several x-bama players all in it.
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In this case, there would be two in the stink.
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Has anything been said about Pearl? Is he going to survive? As a Hog's fan, I like having him in the league.
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Isn't it odd how this was a hot topic for like a day, maybe two? Now nobody cares.
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Isn't it odd how this was a hot topic for like a day, maybe two? Now nobody cares.
Ain't that jest cuz now the ENCCEEAAAA is gettin involved and gon give Aubren the death penalty PAAAAAWWWL? I'll hang up an lissen.
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Isn't it odd how this was a hot topic for like a day, maybe two? Now nobody cares.
I mainly don't care because: cfb weekend, big mass shooting, tom petty.
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Isn't it odd how this was a hot topic for like a day, maybe two? Now nobody cares.
It's amazing how quickly a raging fire gets extinguished when a bama assistant AD gets entangled in the controversy.
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I mainly don't care because: cfb weekend, big mass shooting, tom petty.
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It's amazing how quickly a raging fire gets extinguished when a bama assistant AD gets entangled in the controversy.
Yup
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I only heard Wiley and Purifoy mentioned.
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I only heard Wiley and Purifoy mentioned.
No coffee, tea or punch, thank you.
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No coffee, tea or punch, thank you.
A+ Right here.
Do you always have to talk about the rain?
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No coffee, tea or punch, thank you.
HOW DO YOU DO?
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No coffee, tea or punch, thank you.
Who are you callin' a creatsture?
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HOW DO YOU DO?
Misses Wi-ley.
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Old Man Kelsey's creek.
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Old Man Kelsey's Ocean
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Old man Kelsey's woods