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Pat Dye Field => Beard-Eaves Memorial Coliseum => Topic started by: Kaos on May 25, 2016, 03:47:07 PM
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I have no doubt the Warriors will get up off the mat and knock out the Thunder in seven games. Nor do I doubt the Cavs will turn away the Raptors (is that even who they're playing?). That's what the NBA wants right now is attention and a sweep by either would be anticlimactic. They needed the Warriors to look flawed and become a resurrection story because people were starting to hate them. They needed the Cavs to be pushed for the greater good.
But.... what if?
What if the Thunder do eliminate the Currys? Only unanimous MVP and the record for regular season wins. Do those achievements become "who gives a shit" if they lead nowhere?
Do you particularly care about the 1999 Auburn team that got a Number One seed and bowed out in ugly fashion in the Sweet 16? Do you remember SEC POY Chris Porter fondly or at all? Would you care more or less if that team had won the NC the year before?
And at what point does LeBron become a punchline? He's like the Buffalo Bills/Minnesota Vikings of basketball, except he's at least climbed the mountain in the past. Maybe he's more the Atlanta Braves. All those trips to the playoffs, all those chances, all those great pitchers and ..... except for the one year Glavine just willed them past Cleveland in game six? Nada. I do remember that one game. Justice had been a bitch about the fans and got booed. But it was his homer and Glavine's eight innings of one hit ball that will stick with me. That one hit wasn't even hard hit. Just a little flare. The dude was masterful. Never seen a better pitching combo than Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux in my life. And still to this day? Fuck Charlie Leibrandt.
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I think without a ring, 73-9 means jack shit.
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I'm somewhat of an NBA fan. I follow it and I will watch. While I'm certainly not a conspiracy theorist, but my big gripe is that the playoffs are tooooooo F'n long. And too many teams get in. But, as long as people will watch, that's what the NBA will give them. Early round series should always be best of 5. But 7 makes $$$$.
On Curry and the Warriors, if they lose, they're Brady and the Patriots trying, but failing to go undefeated. No undefeated season, no Super Bowl ring. Nice try.
With regard to Porter and his two years on the Plains, yeah, seemed like a huge letdown but I still remember that squad fondly because that was the last, and one of the few times in history Auburn basketball has been relevant.
Lebron. Never be a punchline in my book. He has 2 rings so he's already wiped out that moniker. I think most people who follow the NBA realize that his first trip to the finals with the Cavs was him against the world. So was last year. Cleveland is all about the big 3, just like Miami was all about the big 3. Last year he faced GS without Irving or Love. He did have a Dellevedova, or some shit.
Braves. I blame Bobby. While all credit is due for taking a franchise to the penthouse after defining "outhouse" for decades, he was a complete failure when it counted. Each and every year, they approached the playoffs as "Professionals". The players themselves said it. They never got too high or low. They stayed business-like and professional while ultimately getting their collective asses whipped by a team that was genuinely excited to be there, spent the entire series on the top step of the dugout and wearing rally caps. While Bobby's Braves sat there and took it.
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Not to make excuses for them but this ain't the Warriors team that reeled off 55 of their first 60. This team has been pretty heavily injured the last month. And when it's two of their best players it matters.
Oh btw, F lebron. I don't care who wins as long as it's not his ass. I like Durant. And the raptors are a scrappy no name bunch. I like how the Warriors play and their cast of characters. They have fun. So yeah, any of them but lebron.
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Not to make excuses for them but this ain't the Warriors team that reeled off 55 of their first 60. This team has been pretty heavily injured the last month. And when it's two of their best players it matters.
Oh btw, F lebron. I don't care who wins as long as it's not his ass. I like Durant. And the raptors are a scrappy no name bunch. I like how the Warriors play and their cast of characters. They have fun. So yeah, any of them but lebron.
I'll fuck you, buddy. Wait.....I mean....fuck you, buddy. I don't roll with that first part.
How bout' those Bears this year, huh?
I'm not Lebron hater. Dude made a huge mistake with all that announcement, moving to Miami crap. He owned up to it. I like Durant too. Most people don't care for Westbrook, I think mostly because of perception. He plays with a chip on his shoulder and to be honest, he's got that cocky ass scowl going on all the time. But damn, that guy has elevated his game to elite level. Would love to see those two get a ring this year. Don't think they'll be on OKC next season.
One guy he (Westbrook) reminds me of that will never, ever reach his unbelievable potential because of numerous injuries, is Derrick Rose. A lot of preconceived opinions about the guy and on the court, he looks like he's cocky and a little mad. If you listen to any interview, the guy is as quiet and humble as they come.
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I'll fuck you, buddy. Wait.....I mean....fuck you, buddy. I don't roll with that first part.
How bout' those Bears this year, huh?
I'm not Lebron hater. Dude made a huge mistake with all that announcement, moving to Miami crap. He owned up to it. I like Durant too. Most people don't care for Westbrook, I think mostly because of perception. He plays with a chip on his shoulder and to be honest, he's got that cocky ass scowl going on all the time. But damn, that guy has elevated his game to elite level. Would love to see those two get a ring this year. Don't think they'll be on OKC next season.
One guy he (Westbrook) reminds me of that will never, ever reach his unbelievable potential because of numerous injuries, is Derrick Rose. A lot of preconceived opinions about the guy and on the court, he looks like he's cocky and a little mad. If you listen to any interview, the guy is as quiet and humble as they come.
Only if you cuddle with me first. Uhhmm I mean, yeah good points there snags. Good points.
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It will be OKC vs the Cavs.
Rookie Coach Billy Donovan has figured out if you manhandle the MVP you can shut them down.
Should make for an interesting Final, and a scrappy one.
as for the GSW winning the regular season means dick, ask the 2007 (18-1) New England Patriots
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Don't hate lebron either. One of the few guys who lived up to the massive hype.
He's no Jordan. Then again he doesn't have a Scottie Pippen or Rodman either. Don't know that Jordan would have been Jordan without his supporting cast. Same with Shaq. Needed Kobe (or a healthy and not jealous penny). Kobe had to have Shaq.
Lebron was better when he had Wade. He needs that one piece. Can't be just him. Cleveland can't get that for him. When they make the finals they will lose. Again.
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Lebron was better when he had Wade. He needs that one piece. Can't be just him. Cleveland can't get that for him. When they make the finals they will lose. Again.
They have Irving, problem with him is, he wants to be the star. IMO that's what made Pippen so great, he knew his roll.
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They have Irving, problem with him is, he wants to be the star. IMO that's what made Pippen so great, he knew his roll.
See, that's why my marriage has worked for so long. I know my roll.
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See, that's why my marriage has worked for so long. I know my roll.
look your testicles are nailed to a plaque...we know your role as this is how ms. snag's rolls.
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They have Irving, problem with him is, he wants to be the star. IMO that's what made Pippen so great, he knew his roll.
Maybe we should have a Role call to see who agrees?
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Sorry, but a toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll, and if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls.
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Sorry, but a toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll, and if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls.
Dangerously close to calling the Day Man.
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Don't hate lebron either. One of the few guys who lived up to the massive hype.
He's no Jordan. Then again he doesn't have a Scottie Pippen or Rodman either. Don't know that Jordan would have been Jordan without his supporting cast. Same with Shaq. Needed Kobe (or a healthy and not jealous penny). Kobe had to have Shaq.
Lebron was better when he had Wade. He needs that one piece. Can't be just him. Cleveland can't get that for him. When they make the finals they will lose. Again.
2-4 in finals. Sounds like a good player that isn't clutch.
You could also argue Jordan made those guys better. Pippen was avg post Jordan. So was Horace Grant.
Lebron has more natural talent in his starting 5 in cleveland than Jordan ever did at any one time. Irving and Love could be (and Love has been) stars on other teams.
Jordan had what - pippen and then who? Grant, Paxton, Kerr (ironic huh?), bill wennington, bj, luc longley, kukoc, Rodman for a few of those years. Lebron has been surrounded by boocoodles of talent in Miami and now in Cleveland.
That said, the Jordan and lebron comparisons end there. They are apples and oranges on style. Lebron is more similar to magic. In style and size. Kobe is closer to Jordan is style and size. And sheer speed. Kobe is a horses ass but dude could ball in his prime like no one else in the league.
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Maybe we should have a Role call to see who agrees?
shut it....no one likes you.
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Dangerously close to calling the Day Man.
Fighter of the Night Man.
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Fighter of the Night Man.
Master of karate? And friendship?
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I have no doubt the Warriors will get up off the mat and knock out the Thunder in seven games. Nor do I doubt the Cavs will turn away the Raptors (is that even who they're playing?). That's what the NBA wants right now is attention and a sweep by either would be anticlimactic. They needed the Warriors to look flawed and become a resurrection story because people were starting to hate them. They needed the Cavs to be pushed for the greater good.
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I have no doubt the Warriors will get up off the mat and knock out the Thunder in seven games. Nor do I doubt the Cavs will turn away the Raptors (is that even who they're playing?). That's what the NBA wants right now is attention and a sweep by either would be anticlimactic. They needed the Warriors to look flawed and become a resurrection story because people were starting to hate them. They needed the Cavs to be pushed for the greater good.
Bottomfeeder hack your acct?
I think both are explainable.
Raptors/cavs has become a home court contest. Typical of both teams too so not surprising.
Warriors and okc- okc came into that series hot. Warriors came in very out of sync and battered. They seem to have gelled again at the right time. And I'll still stick to this unpopular opinion - Thompson is just as valuable to the Warriors as curry. Kid is an underrated player and finally starting to get his due.
Personally I like both series. And I like it to be 3-2 and 3-3 with good games. The raptors I was never crazy about for being in the finals but the cavs vs either of the other 2 in the west is an instant ratings bonanza because of the lebron vs Durant/curry effect.
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Boy! That damn Golden State looks a lot like the Bull's teams of my teenage years. Shooting like Champs tonight! That 30% is definitely championship material.
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Well, fuck me
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I predict a Warriors vs. Cavs championship!
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I predict a Warriors vs. Cavs championship!
As usual, you're crazy as hell. Warriors/Cavs. Pffffffffffft...........
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As usual, you're crazy as hell. Warriors/Cavs. Pffffffffffft...........
At least I knew it when the Warriors were down 3-1.
NBA = Rigged.
All pro sports is to a degree I think.
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At least I knew it when the Warriors were down 3-1.
NBA = Rigged.
All pro sports is to a degree I think.
To whatever extent they can control it, yes, I tend to agree.
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At least I knew it when the Warriors were down 3-1.
NBA = Rigged.
All pro sports is to a degree I think.
yep
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Just curious. How exactly are they rigging these series?
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Just curious. How exactly are they rigging these series?
Refs...especially if you watched game 6
not to mention you are blind if you think they don't. You know the amount of money they miss out on if a series such as OKC vs GSW had ended in game 5.
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Refs...especially if you watched game 6
not to mention you are blind if you think they don't. You know the amount of money they miss out on if a series such as OKC vs GSW had ended in game 5.
I've seen a ton of bad calls in all these games. In fact, I can barely recall any basketball game at any level where there weren't. I know it's just kind of a given that pro sports are "rigged". That's been the conspiracy theory as far back as I can remember. But think about what's really being said. For that to happen:
The networks and/or the NBA, NFL, MLB etc. Commissioners have to tell either the refs or the players (or both) to throw games. If one team is up 3-1 and they want a game 7 out of this series, one team has to throw 2 games. Intentionally lose them. Or, the refs have to make sure that team doesn't win the next 2 games.
Again, I'm fully aware that that's the public perception. I'm also fully aware that if it got out that a given league was having their players or coaches or refs intentionally throw games, that league shuts down immediately and there are a lot of people headed to jail for a very long time. What you guys are claiming in saying pro sports are rigged...and I'm not talking about point shaving...I'm talking about networks or League Commissioners, because that's where it would have to come from, specifically telling refs, players or coaches to throw games. That would involve untold numbers of people over years and years.
Why has it never come out? Why has there not been one disgruntled player or referee in all these years across all these leagues who wrote a tell all book...went to the press...whatever, and said, "I was told by the league to throw these games"?
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I've seen a ton of bad calls in all these games. In fact, I can barely recall any basketball game at any level where there weren't. I know it's just kind of a given that pro sports are "rigged". That's been the conspiracy theory as far back as I can remember. But think about what's really being said. For that to happen:
The networks and/or the NBA, NFL, MLB etc. Commissioners have to tell either the refs or the players (or both) to throw games. If one team is up 3-1 and they want a game 7 out of this series, one team has to throw 2 games. Intentionally lose them. Or, the refs have to make sure that team doesn't win the next 2 games.
Again, I'm fully aware that that's the public perception. I'm also fully aware that if it got out that a given league was having their players or coaches or refs intentionally throw games, that league shuts down immediately and there are a lot of people headed to jail for a very long time. What you guys are claiming in saying pro sports are rigged...and I'm not talking about point shaving...I'm talking about networks or League Commissioners, because that's where it would have to come from, specifically telling refs, players or coaches to throw games. That would involve untold numbers of people over years and years.
Why has it never come out? Why has there not been one disgruntled player or referee in all these years across all these leagues who wrote a tell all book...went to the press...whatever, and said, "I was told by the league to throw these games"?
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I've seen a ton of bad calls in all these games. In fact, I can barely recall any basketball game at any level where there weren't. I know it's just kind of a given that pro sports are "rigged". That's been the conspiracy theory as far back as I can remember. But think about what's really being said. For that to happen:
The networks and/or the NBA, NFL, MLB etc. Commissioners have to tell either the refs or the players (or both) to throw games. If one team is up 3-1 and they want a game 7 out of this series, one team has to throw 2 games. Intentionally lose them. Or, the refs have to make sure that team doesn't win the next 2 games.
Again, I'm fully aware that that's the public perception. I'm also fully aware that if it got out that a given league was having their players or coaches or refs intentionally throw games, that league shuts down immediately and there are a lot of people headed to jail for a very long time. What you guys are claiming in saying pro sports are rigged...and I'm not talking about point shaving...I'm talking about networks or League Commissioners, because that's where it would have to come from, specifically telling refs, players or coaches to throw games. That would involve untold numbers of people over years and years.
Why has it never come out? Why has there not been one disgruntled player or referee in all these years across all these leagues who wrote a tell all book...went to the press...whatever, and said, "I was told by the league to throw these games"?
Can we change this guys name to Snagglefeeder?
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Can we change this guys name to Snagglefeeder?
leaning toward it between this and his love of Verne.
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Can we change this guys name to Snagglefeeder?
You just shut up. Okay?
Actually, I'm contradicting the black helicopter, conspiracy theorists.
GF is black, isn't he?
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Why do you think Cam was so pissed?
The NFL wanted to send Peyton out as a winner. Was important to the brand. Cam didn't like having to surrender that shit.
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Why do you think Cam was so pissed?
The NFL wanted to send Peyton out as a winner. Was important to the brand. Cam didn't like having to surrender that shit.
I think Cam would have appeared a lot more pissed leading up to the SB had he been directed to tank it.
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I think Cam would have appeared a lot more pissed leading up to the SB had he been directed to tank it.
Look bitch, they told him not to dive for that loose ball in his helmet headset. You don't know anything about football.
You should have been banned from this site after the Vern comments.
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I think Cam would have appeared a lot more pissed leading up to the SB had he been directed to tank it.
Look at his demeanor from about Thursday on.
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I think the Warriors will win game 1.
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At least Steph Curry showed last night why he is the MVP. Wait, what?
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At least Steph Curry showed last night why he is the MVP. Wait, what?
It's King James tho.
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Refs...especially if you watched game 6
not to mention you are blind if you think they don't. You know the amount of money they miss out on if a series such as OKC vs GSW had ended in game 5.
Pat dye is pulling all the strings.
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Lay-Bron's team got worked like a rented mule last night. 33 points. This postseason has been a series of blowouts.
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I would think if there was a fix in, you would have had Durant and Lebron with lebron taking the whole thing.
I don't think the Nba particularly likes the Warriors. They are a fly in the ointment. They are David slaying Goliath. I love it. And better yet I love seeing lebron cry like a baby and heading to 2-5 unless the cavs pull off some comeback. His ass also finally called for traveling last night after ten years of doing it. Hallelujah.
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Lay-Bron's team got worked like a rented mule last night. 33 points. This postseason has been a series of blowouts.
Damn, what was the point spread? For there to be such a "fix" to these NBA games I'm guessing the spread was 30 points?
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Damn, what was the point spread? For there to be such a "fix" to these NBA games I'm guessing the spread was 30 points?
You didn't see how dejected Lebron was before Game 2?
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You didn't see how dejected Lebron was before Game 2?
Wanna bet Cavs win tonight by more than 10 points?
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Wanna bet Cavs win tonight by more than 10 points?
I'll take that bet with any amount you want to wager. I'll go so far as to say the Cavs won't win at all tonight.
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I'll take that bet with any amount you want to wager. I'll go so far as to say the Cavs won't win at all tonight.
Whatever...tomorrow then. Stupid playoff schedule.
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Whatever...tomorrow then. Stupid playoff schedule.
I'll let you know on the bet as soon as I check on Curry's demeanor.
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Wow it's like I almost knew what the outcome would be.
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Wow it's like I almost knew what the outcome would be.
Talk about conspiracies! Damn nba didn't wanna see a 4 game sweep. Shenanigans I tell ya
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Wow it's like I almost knew what the outcome would be.
Well duh! We all saw Clay Thompson's demeanor right before the game.
In all srsness, If the NBA is fixing these games, ur doin' it rong. 30 point blowouts are NOT entertaining. That will cause ratings to plummet.
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Well duh! We all saw Clay Thompson's demeanor right before the game.
In all srsness, If the NBA is fixing these games, ur doin' it rong. 30 point blowouts are NOT entertaining. That will cause ratings to plummet.
What I've been saying. There has been game rigging before. It just ain't in these playoffs.
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Wow.
Got off the mat from down 3-1.
Ok I wanna hear the conspiracy talk in the other direction now.
And the shit town of Cleveland finally gets a title.
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Haters. No more thought of diminished legacy. Lebron has won 3. Been to 6 straight. Dude goes down as one of the all-time greats no matter how anyone wants to spin it. Down 3-1 and won 2 on the home floor of the team that set the record for wins? Yep!
He screwed up the entire move to Miami. He later admitted he F'd that up. Other than that media snafu, name another reason to hate the guy. With 3 in the books and 3 other trips, there's no more...."Yeah but...."
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LB's biggest problem is that he is too unselfish. He can get to the bucket every single time down the floor and either hit or draw a foul. He made too many passes in first few games. You could see a difference in game 5. He had a lot of help from Irvin who deserves some major applause in this series, but you could tell LeBron was determined to win.
The difference between he and MJ is that MJ ALWAYS took over the game. Not saying he was a hotdog, just saying he was the best player on the floor and wasn't ashamed of it. LeBron could easily be the same player, he just chooses to pass.
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LB's biggest problem is that he is too unselfish. He can get to the bucket every single time down the floor and either hit or draw a foul. He made too many passes in first few games. You could see a difference in game 5. He had a lot of help from Irvin who deserves some major applause in this series, but you could tell LeBron was determined to win.
The difference between he and MJ is that MJ ALWAYS took over the game. Not saying he was a hotdog, just saying he was the best player on the floor and wasn't ashamed of it. LeBron could easily be the same player, he just chooses to pass.
I get what you're saying. And spot on too. I think the only thing that separates them is circumstances. His first trip to the Finals in Cleveland, he had no chance. It was him against the world. Last year, without Irving or Love, it was again, him against the world with even less help than his first go around in Cleveland. Give the guy some help and he may have 4-5 rings and then it's game on for greatest ever. But right now, there's 38 players with more rings than Lebron. Most of them role players but names like Jordan, Bill Russell, Shaq, Kobe etc. have more. Different era??? Maybe. But to me, Lebron is on par with any of them.
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No title, no legacy. /story
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No title, no legacy. /story
Lebron has 3 and 6 trips. Legacy!!!
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Lebron has 3 and 6 trips. Legacy!!!
You need to go back and read the OP.
Teh Six wins.
(edit: Actually you tie)
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Curry choked. He played like shit last three games. Hasn't played like that all year.
Cleveland D was tight on him, but damn, he missed some wide open shots last couple of games that he normally hits. Plus he had several turnovers last night that hurt also.
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Curry choked. He played like shit last three games. Hasn't played like that all year.
Cleveland D was tight on him, but damn, he missed some wide open shots last couple of games that he normally hits. Plus he had several turnovers last night that hurt also.
The suspending of Green really turned the whole series. It was the pivotal point. He is their enforcer. And calls the audibles on cross match ups. Notice Kyrie Irving went apeshit from that point on. And Lebron got into a serious groove. Good reason. There were lots of mismatches. Golden state never got back into that same rhythm after that on offense or defense. Curry was having to earn it and he just didn't get it done. He was getting frustrated beyond what I've ever seen him do.
I think these two will be back next year as the favorites. They have to be. There was no doubt they were the best two teams in the league for the entire year.
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Live and die by the 3. It's relying on a passing game that is nothing but screens and deep shots down the sidelines.
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Live and die by the 3. It's relying on a passing game that is nothing but screens and deep shots down the sidelines.
Bingo. When making the 3s became more difficult, boom goes the dynamite. Combine that with Cleveland figuring out how to score. Game set match.
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Live and die by the 3. It's relying on a passing game that is nothing but screens and deep shots down the sidelines.
Curry's sloppy passing in traffic was a major liability last night.
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Curry's sloppy passing in traffic was a major liability last night.
Ever since game 4 Cleveland had started presenting gs with mismatches that they didn't adjust to well. And it showed.