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Tony Barbee choked me up.
He said everything I wanted to hear.
Damn him for making me cry.
I pray he can do half of what he inspired me to believe he can do.
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Is there an audio or video link to his press conference somewhere?
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Is there an audio or video link to his press conference somewhere?
No joke. All I've got is James Paul Dice yammering on about a thunderstorm out in the middle of bum-fuck Egypt.
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Tony Barbee speaks
Hey everyone. Auburn's new coach, Tony Barbee, will hold his introductory press conference at 5 p.m. CST.
I am here. I will post salient information.
* Jay Jacobs: "It's remarkable how he's been able to build them in all three ways of life. As you sat with Tony Barbee, you heard his passion, his vision and his plan for Auburn basketball."
* Barbee: ``War Eagle! I learn quickly. It's a great day to be an Auburn Tiger."
* "It was a very difficult decision to leave UTEP and the players because of how I do it -- it's all about relationships and family. When I looked at Auburn and I looked at this wonderful university ... first class ... and looked at this wonderful community ... first class ... when I looked at this beautiful arena ... that decision because easy to make."
* Referred to Auburn as "the best university in the state of Alabama ... and making it one of the best programs in this conference."
* "Jay, I won't disappoint."
* "I'm a guy that's very thorough and a guy who does his homework."
* "It is my responsibility to live up to that bar that's been raised by all those great athletic programs at this university."
* "There is a precedent ... it has been done before. Why can't it be done again? That's why I'm here. There is noone who is going to out-work my staff and I. I'll work every day to make these players proud, the former players proud, the fans proud."
* He referred to Auburn Arena as the nicest arena in the league ... "and maybe in the country."
* ``The commitment has been made. My commitment to you is to take the program to heights it's never seen before."
* On his style: ``It will be fun. It'll do one thing. I've been to postseason play in 18 of 19 years. I'm madder than heck about that one year. We were starting over at UTEP. This style is built to win in March. It's a team you're going to be seeing play deep into March."
* To former players: "My office, my house and my phone will always be open to you."
* To current players: ``Your idea of fun and my idea of fun might be a little different. It's going to take a lot of hard work, but I've never been afraid of working hard."
* To the incoming recruiting class: ``I'll be getting in touch with you very soon to remind you why Auburn is such a special place."
* "Let's all get on the train."
* "We're going to go after and attract the best players in the country that fit with me, that fit with Auburn University, that fit for what Auburn stands for. We're not going to be afraid to go after the best players in the country."
* "We're going to be recruiting the media for exposure for support, recruiting the community, I'll recruit the student. My responsibility is to rekindle that love affair between the community and this basketball program."
* Scheduling: ``It's built on one thing -- getting into the NCAA Tournament."
* ``I've known John Calipari since I was 14 years old. He was my coach at camp. He's my mentor, he's my friend, he'll always be my coach."
* ``We're going right after Kentucky and we're going right after Coach Calipari. It's not an easy thing to do. Once we catch him, guess where we'll be. We'll be on top."
* "This is the second job in a row that I've taken without visiting. For me -- it's not about bricks and mortar. It's about people. There is a passion here."
* "We're going to apply pressure for 40 minutes. We'll play an up-tempo game ... but it's not helter-skelter. It's not run-and-gun. We'll be disciplined."
* "Everything is in place for you to ... sustain a championship-level program."
* "The success football has had here can only help with basketball."
* "I'm challenging our students. I'm challenging our fan base. We need you. We need each and every one of you there -- every night. It's my job to get the students engaged."
* THAT'S A WRAP
http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/ (http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/)
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* Referred to Auburn as "the best university in the state of Alabama ... and making it one of the best programs in this conference."
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He'll fit in nicely.
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sounds like a lot of "Coach Speak" to me, right kaos. Wait, he didn't say "Blueprint".... :rolleyes:
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http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=aub (http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=aub)
Go to free events to see the video.
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sounds like a lot of "Coach Speak" to me, right kaos. Wait, he didn't say "Blueprint".... :rolleyes:
You are a fucking idiot.
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sounds like a lot of "Coach Speak" to me, right kaos. Wait, he didn't say "Blueprint".... :rolleyes:
Did you even read his post or immediately throw something out there b/c it was a Koas thread?
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Did you even read his post or immediately throw something out there b/c it was a Koas thread?
yes, nobody reads Koas's bullshit unless it's about movies or pussy.
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sounds like a lot of "Coach Speak" to me, right kaos. Wait, he didn't say "Blueprint".... :rolleyes:
Actually, and ironically (just to piss Kaos off), he did say blueprint during his presser.
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Actually, and ironically (just to piss Kaos off), he did say blueprint during his presser.
Seriously??? AHHAHAHAHA!!! Well, kaos sounds like Coach Barbee and Coach Chizik are just about one and the same.
Tony Barbee choked me up.
He said everything I wanted to hear. (BLUEPRINT)
Damn him for making me cry.
I pray he can do half of what he inspired me to believe he can do.
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I do find it odd that this was so moving, while every time Chizik opens his mouth (especially in his first six months) Kaos became physically ill.
I don't see much difference in anything Barbee said, and anything Chizik said in his inaugural press conference, yet the responses from K are night and day.
I was going to let it slide though. No sense in working him up over the first positive post I've seen from him in well over a year.
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Back on topic..........
Scarbinsky wrote a pretty good article today.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/03/scarbinsky_barbee_wants_to_be.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/03/scarbinsky_barbee_wants_to_be.html)
Tony Barbee’s resume says he graduated from the University of Massachusetts in 1993 with a Bachelor of Arts in sports management and a minor in African-American studies.
That’s a fact.
Now here’s the truth.
Auburn’s new head basketball coach is a proud graduate, the most prominent graduate, of the University of Calipari.
Excuse me.
Calipari University.
Everyone has to model himself after someone, and Barbee made it clear during his impressive introduction Thursday that his role model is John Calipari.
Barbee played for him. Coached for him. Has known him since he was 14 when Calipari coached him at a basketball camp. Hasn’t made an important decision, "personally and professionally," without consulting him.
"He is my mentor and my friend," Barbee said. "He will always be my coach. There hasn’t been an influential male in my life, outside of my dad, that has had an effect on me like Coach Calipari has had."
The good people of Kentucky would applaud that bond.
The good people of Memphis? Umm, not so much.
Other coaches who know both men had observed that Barbee possesses Calipari’s intensity, drive and ambition but not his charm, but that wasn’t the case inside the new Auburn Arena.
If Barbee’s program is as winning as his introductory personality, Auburn may regret the day it built the roof low enough to intimidate visitors but too low to accommodate championship banners.
The new coach was well-prepared, checking his notes for direction, but he seemed spontaneous, too.
"Wow," he said. "Auburn Arena. Are you kidding me? If we can’t get it done in here, now."
Barbee said he was humbled to be here, but didn’t try to hide his abundant self-confidence, a prerequisite for a winner at any level. If he doesn’t believe in himself, why should anyone else?
"Jay, I won’t disappoint," he told AD Jay Jacobs. "I won’t disappoint."
Barbee displayed more personality in 27 minutes at the podium than Jeff Lebo let people see in six years. And if you think that approach was different, wait until Barbee hits the recruiting trail.
Calipari may steal the next Eric Bledsoe from this state, too, but if he does, you’re unlikely to hear his high school coach echo Maurice Ford and say that Auburn didn’t recruit him.
"I’m not gonna be afraid to do my job," Barbee said, "and make sure we get our fair share of the best players in Alabama, in the Southeast and around the country."
Call it Auburn’s new motto: No limits, no excuses, no fear.
No one may be safe. Lebo never coached against his mentor, but can you imagine him calling out Dean Smith? Barbee told us in public what he’s already told Calipari in private. It’s the same friendly warning Barbee delivered when he left Cal’s side at Memphis to become a rival C-USA head coach at UTEP.
In short, heads up.
"We laughed, we joked, but he knew I was serious," Barbee said. "I’m not backing down from him, he’s not backing down from me, but that’ll never affect our friendship, our relationship, and the passion we have for each other."
How’s this for friendship? The same day Barbee called out Calipari in public, Calipari called Barbee in private. It just happened to be the same day Calipari’s Kentucky team had a date in the Sweet 16 against Cornell.
Barbee said he asked Cal, " ‘Why are you calling me? Don’t you got something bigger to worry about than me?’
"But that’s the passion, that’s the love that we have for each other."
Wow. That’s more passion than Auburn basketball has generated in ages. Not to mention confidence.
"There’s one way you get to the top," Barbee said. "You go after the people that are at the top. Right now, that’s where Kentucky sits."
There’s only one way to make a coaching change when the last coach didn’t get it done. You don’t slip a new face into the same old suit.
You make a change.
Mission accomplished here. Auburn introduced a new basketball coach with a new attitude in its new home. This place may never be the same.
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I thought Kaos was being facetious. Hopefully he wasn't.
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I do find it odd that this was so moving, while every time Chizik opens his mouth (especially in his first six months) Kaos became physically ill.
I don't see much difference in anything Barbee said, and anything Chizik said in his inaugural press conference, yet the responses from K are night and day.
I was going to let it slide though. No sense in working him up over the first positive post I've seen from him in well over a year.
OK. I'll point out the difference for you since all you do is see who can be the first to bash the post.
Post season 18 of 19 years. Still pissed about the one year.
Get it?
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I do find it odd that this was so moving, while every time Chizik opens his mouth (especially in his first six months) Kaos became physically ill.
I don't see much difference in anything Barbee said, and anything Chizik said in his inaugural press conference, yet the responses from K are night and day.
I was going to let it slide though. No sense in working him up over the first positive post I've seen from him in well over a year.
If you can't see the difference between an intelligent, articulate passionate guy like Barbee turned out to be and the banal cliche-choked nothingness that emanates from Chizik, well I can't help you at all.
You also have to consider the source. When Barbee talks about leading teams to championships, winning games, recruiting etc... well, he's got a legitimate historical base. He's actually done those things as a head coach. When he says he knows what it takes to win, he's at least got a resume that proves it.
The distance between what he said (and how he said it) at his press conference can be measured in miles from Chizik's.
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I thought Kaos was being facetious. Hopefully he wasn't.
Not in the least.
What I heard from our new coach yesterday made me care about Auburn basketball. If I wasn't slow, short and white and if I hadn't wasted my eligibility trying to play baseball, I'd volunteer to play for the guy.
I was impressed.
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Not in the least.
What I heard from our new coach yesterday made me care about Auburn basketball. If I wasn't slow, short and white and if I hadn't wasted my eligibility trying to play baseball, I'd volunteer to play for the guy.
I was impressed.
I never thought you were being facetious. Anyone who loves Auburn, basketball fan or not, knows what happened in that press conference yesterday was a good thing.
Now we just hope he lives up to it.
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If you can't see the difference between an intelligent, articulate passionate guy like Barbee turned out to be and the banal cliche-choked nothingness that emanates from Chizik, well I can't help you at all.
You also have to consider the source. When Barbee talks about leading teams to championships, winning games, recruiting etc... well, he's got a legitimate historical base. He's actually done those things as a head coach. When he says he knows what it takes to win, he's at least got a resume that proves it.
The distance between what he said (and how he said it) at his press conference can be measured in miles from Chizik's.
The middle portion is the only thing you said that I can level with and understand where you're coming from. I'll just ignore the rest. What they said was essentially the same, the difference is you had determined Chizik was incapable of delivering on his statements based on his head coaching record at Iowa State.
That's fair, I guess.
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I never thought you were being facetious. Anyone who loves Auburn, basketball fan or not, knows what happened in that press conference yesterday was a good thing.
You could say the same about hiring Malzahn as OC, landing the Outback Bowl, our top ranked recruiting class, and a plethora of other things that Kaos somehow found a way to bitch about.
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OK. I'll point out the difference for you since all you do is see who can be the first to bash the post.
WTF?
I wasn't bashing the post, I was genuinely curious what Barbee said different than Chizik since one brought him to tears of joy and one made him want to vomit uncontrollably.
I still don't see a difference in the content of the two speeches.
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The middle portion is the only thing you said that I can level with and understand where you're coming from. I'll just ignore the rest. What they said was essentially the same, the difference is you had determined Chizik was incapable of delivering on his statements based on his head coaching record at Iowa State.
That's fair, I guess.
It's a little more than that, really.
Barbee's delivery showed enthusiasm and intelligence. He was articulate. Read the outsider perception, not just mine.
Chizik comes off as boring and banal. Even his SEC Media Days effort was roundly ridiculed for being nothing but a string of cliches delivered woodenly.
It may just be that Chizik isn't a good communicator. Barbee clearly is. His remarks yesterday exuded confidence and competence. He didn't rely on "coachisms"
And finally, a big part of my initial reaction to Chizik was that he seemed to be reading exactly the same script he used at ISU with almost no variation.
I'm not sold on Barbee being able to do all that he said. I hope he can. I got great satisfaction out of the string of Bama fans that called both Finebaum and the Mobile radio show to piss and moan about his remarks. In their every barb I sensed raw and naked fear. Our guy is better than their guy (always has been and we had LEBO) but the guy yesterday didn't just elevate Auburn basketball, he elevated Auburn as a whole.
THAT'S what moved me, I guess. The press conference yesterday wasn't just a win for the moribund AU basketball team, it was a win for Auburn overall.
Good hire by Jacobs. Probably as good a hire as the Chizik hire was bad. (And I'm talking hire not subsequent performances. Now all Barbee has to do is live up to the promise just a little.
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You could say the same about hiring Malzahn as OC, landing the Outback Bowl, our top ranked recruiting class, and a plethora of other things that Kaos somehow found a way to bitch about.
Just because I don't wear the same cheerleader skirt you do, it's hardly bitching.
I didn't complain about any of the things you noted above. All I tried to do was offer a grounded perspective.
There was no bitching about Malzahn. Should I refer you to the article I wrote three weeks in? My only caution was that his offense had struggles against the better defensive teams we played and bogged down at critical times. That's got to be fixed -- whether it's personnel or playcalling.
There was no complaint about the Outback or its result -- other than Roof's sometimes flailing defensive plans and the idiotic turnovers that kept things going and going. I did refuse to hoist Jacobs on my shoulders for getting Auburn the bid because it wasn't just him.
Don't think you'll find any complaints about the recruiting class. I'm happy with it and hope it translates well.
This is what I'm talking about when I say you make up arguments in your head and then argue against things that were never said.
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I agree with Kaos on this thread...
But other than that...the ONLY bad thing about this hire, in my opinion, is that coaches like Barbee don't stay around Auburn very long. In my opinion, he has every intention of making Auburn a winning team for the short term, and then moving to where basketball is king. He can say that he is proud of the other sports and particularly of football, but what is it going to be like when he gets the program where he wants it, and basketball is still #2. Because it will be.
This guy seems to be damn good. Kaos, you nailed it with your review on the presser. It was almost flawless. Guys like that, if they are successful, don't stay 2nd fiddle for long...
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Is there an audio or video link to his press conference somewhere?
http://videos.al.com/birmingham-news/2010/03/tony_barbee_talks_auburn_baske.html (http://videos.al.com/birmingham-news/2010/03/tony_barbee_talks_auburn_baske.html)
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I am glad I was wrong Kaos. I just got so used to you doing nothing but offer up snide comments, I wasn't expecting a serious post about you being happy.
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I just got so used to you doing nothing but offer up snide comments, I wasn't expecting a serious post about you being happy.
Certainly was not expected.
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I agree with Kaos on this thread...
But other than that...the ONLY bad thing about this hire, in my opinion, is that coaches like Barbee don't stay around Auburn very long. In my opinion, he has every intention of making Auburn a winning team for the short term, and then moving to where basketball is king. He can say that he is proud of the other sports and particularly of football, but what is it going to be like when he gets the program where he wants it, and basketball is still #2. Because it will be.
This guy seems to be damn good. Kaos, you nailed it with your review on the presser. It was almost flawless. Guys like that, if they are successful, don't stay 2nd fiddle for long...
Here's the thing about him staying at Auburn. If he can build us into a winner, and we're willing to pay him, then there won't be too many reasons for him to leave. The new arena and his salary shows him that he's at a place that wants to win. If the fans/community get on board (and if he wins, they will), then there won't be many places where the grass is actually greener.
He's the fifth highest paid coachin the leage now, behind only Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama...and those Kentucky and Floria salaries are the two highest in the country. At $1.5 million, he's already not far from the highest paid coaches in the entire country. Guys like Bob Huggins, Roy Williams, Rick Barnes, etc only make $2 million.
So, with all that going for him, if he can win here, the only thing that would lure him away would be the select few historical programs like North Carolina, duke, Kentucky, Indiana, UCLA, etc. Those are the kinds of places you go to even if they don't offer you more money....just for the opporunity.
But if he's winning here, getting support, doing it in a top notch facility, and getting paid big time for it, we may actually be able to keep him for the long haul.
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Actually, and ironically (just to piss Kaos off), he did say blueprint during his presser.
Now thats funny
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But Barbee left a whole team of starters at UTEP. Lebo left Sullivan and some hopefuls. In six years one would hope Barbee could get Auburn to the NIT's at least twice and the NCAA's at least once. (I'm saying twice)
If he leaves Auburn with three starters and the new coach retains two signees from Barbee's class and the AD makes another good hire then Auburn is still better off.
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Now thats funny
He only said it because Jacobs requires it. Blueprints are porn to him.
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But Barbee left a whole team of starters at UTEP. Lebo left Sullivan and some hopefuls. In six years one would hope Barbee could get Auburn to the NIT's at least twice and the NCAA's at least once. (I'm saying twice)
If he leaves Auburn with three starters and the new coach retains two signees from Barbee's class and the AD makes another good hire then Auburn is still better off.
I will be disappointed if we only make it to the NIT twice and the NCAA once. After the end of the third season, we should make the postseason in some shape or form every year.
No excuses.
It's not like football. You need three things - good guard play, rebounding and defense. With Lebo, we struggled with all three.
You only need three superstar players to contend for a national championship. If we have Frankie Sullivan and decent role players, we should at least contend for the SEC West by the end of year two.
If Butler can do it with kids from Homewood and Cornell can do it with kids from Altamont, why can't we keep those kids in state?
Year three, postseason is expected and the NCAAs are a reasonable goal.
Don't settle for average just because you always have before.
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I will be disappointed if we only make it to the NIT twice and the NCAA once. After the end of the third season, we should make the postseason in some shape or form every year.
No excuses.
It's not like football. You need three things - good guard play, rebounding and defense. With Lebo, we struggled with all three.
You only need three superstar players to contend for a national championship. If we have Frankie Sullivan and decent role players, we should at least contend for the SEC West by the end of year two.
If Butler can do it with kids from Homewood and Cornell can do it with kids from Altamont, why can't we keep those kids in state?
Year three, postseason is expected and the NCAAs are a reasonable goal.
Don't settle for average just because you always have before.
It makes me hot when you get all "breakin' it down" an' stuff...
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Don't be so negative, Nelly. When I started campaigning for change after Lebo's second season I was told repeatedly by some of the crew around here that it took four or five years to build a basketball program.
And here you go making EXACTLY the same arguments I made in reference to Lebo and frame them as expectations for Barbee.
Damn you are negative. Freaking Eeyore up in here.
I will be disappointed if we only make it to the NIT twice and the NCAA once. After the end of the third season, we should make the postseason in some shape or form every year.
No excuses.
It's not like football. You need three things - good guard play, rebounding and defense. With Lebo, we struggled with all three.
You only need three superstar players to contend for a national championship. If we have Frankie Sullivan and decent role players, we should at least contend for the SEC West by the end of year two.
If Butler can do it with kids from Homewood and Cornell can do it with kids from Altamont, why can't we keep those kids in state?
Year three, postseason is expected and the NCAAs are a reasonable goal.
Don't settle for average just because you always have before.
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I will be disappointed if we only make it to the NIT twice and the NCAA once. After the end of the third season, we should make the postseason in some shape or form every year.
No excuses.
It's not like football. You need three things - good guard play, rebounding and defense. With Lebo, we struggled with all three.
You only need three superstar players to contend for a national championship. If we have Frankie Sullivan and decent role players, we should at least contend for the SEC West by the end of year two.
If Butler can do it with kids from Homewood and Cornell can do it with kids from Altamont, why can't we keep those kids in state?
Year three, postseason is expected and the NCAAs are a reasonable goal.
Don't settle for average just because you always have before.
Speaking of Butler...I was thinking that maybe I wished just a little that we had waited to talk to that guy. He won more games in his first three years than anyone in history. He's now won 30+ games in two of his first three years as a head coach. Three NCAA tournaments, including second round and Elite Eight (so far).
But then I realized, he may just be perfect for Butler. He's a 33 year old white kid from Indiana, coaching....white kids from Indiana. That doesn't mean he can't succeed in the SEC, but it is a different world (who and where he would be recruiting, etc). If I were Indiana I would hire him the day they lose (which very well may be in the Final Four).
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Don't be so negative, Nelly. When I started campaigning for change after Lebo's second season I was told repeatedly by some of the crew around here that it took four or five years to build a basketball program.
And here you go making EXACTLY the same arguments I made in reference to Lebo and frame them as expectations for Barbee.
Damn you are negative. Freaking Eeyore up in here.
I know you're not talking about me.
If so, then this: This is what I'm talking about when I say you make up arguments in your head and then argue against things that were never said.
applies to you tenfold.
It's not EXACTLY the same thing. To say at the time of the hire that you'd be disappointed with only one NCAA tourney bid in 6 years...well, no shit. I agree with this completely.
Far different from "String him up by his ears and kick him out on the streets for only showing gradual improvement each year".
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What I stated was what should have been the expectations when Lebo inherited a wounded program and never improved. Two NIT's and two NCAA tourney appearances are not unrealistic in six seasons considering next seasons not so imposing line-up possibilities. Sure Barbee should have higher expectations, everyone should.
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Speaking of Butler...I was thinking that maybe I wished just a little that we had waited to talk to that guy. He won more games in his first three years than anyone in history. He's now won 30+ games in two of his first three years as a head coach. Three NCAA tournaments, including second round and Elite Eight (so far).
But then I realized, he may just be perfect for Butler. He's a 33 year old white kid from Indiana, coaching....white kids from Indiana. That doesn't mean he can't succeed in the SEC, but it is a different world (who and where he would be recruiting, etc). If I were Indiana I would hire him the day they lose (which very well may be in the Final Four).
He also already makes 1+ million a year and signed a 7 year contact extension with Butler after last season. He would have been very hard for Auburn to get.
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I know you're not talking about me.
If so, then this: applies to you tenfold.
It's not EXACTLY the same thing. To say at the time of the hire that you'd be disappointed with only one NCAA tourney bid in 6 years...well, no shit. I agree with this completely.
Far different from "String him up by his ears and kick him out on the streets for only showing gradual improvement each year".
You have no idea what I'm talking about. Sometimes I think you just play dumb on purpose.
As it pertains to Lebo, I said repeatedly (and you can look it up) that it only takes a good coach one season, two tops to show marked improvement. You know what you have at the end of two and if it's not dramatically improved it's likely not gonna be.
That's ALL I ever said. Gradual improvement my ass. Turn it around in two or you're not going to. Used Bruce Pearl as a classic example on a couple of occasions.
I said you only needed one good player and a decent supporting cast to turn a program from nothing to respectable. Said it fifteen dozen times probably.
You -- and others -- laid excuse after excuse after excuse and tried to explain that I was just being negative, that he needed more time, blah-de-blow-de-frickin-blee. Y'all were wrong. Big surprise there.
So the Rider says EXACTLY what I've said for four long years -- that he should be markedly improved by year two "No Excuses" and that it only takes one player to dramatically change the dynamic. Yep. That's pretty much been my basketball matra verbatim for a fifth of a score.
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You have no idea what I'm talking about. Sometimes I think you just play dumb on purpose.
As it pertains to Lebo, I said repeatedly (and you can look it upNo...you provide us the links bitch.) that it only takes a good coach one season, two tops to show marked improvement. You know what you have at the end of two and if it's not dramatically improved it's likely not gonna be.
That's ALL I ever said. Gradual improvement my ass. Turn it around in two or you're not going to. Used Bruce Pearl as a classic example on a couple of occasions.
I said you only needed one good player and a decent supporting cast to turn a program from nothing to respectable. Said it fifteen dozen times probably.
You -- and others -- laid excuse after excuse after excuse and tried to explain that I was just being negative, that he needed more time, blah-de-blow-de-frickin-blee. Y'all were wrong. Big surprise there.
So the Rider says EXACTLY what I've said for four long years -- that he should be markedly improved by year two "No Excuses" and that it only takes one player to dramatically change the dynamic. Yep. That's pretty much been my basketball matra verbatim for a fifth of a score.
Link?
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Link?
here.
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After reading through this whole thread, I only got a few things out of it all but the main thing is, wow I have only seen post made by Kaos and other aliases that he was truly happy. One was the snow day last year that he made a trek to Auburn for and this, the new Auburn B-Ball coach. I do agree in part about what Kaos is saying. Barbee is something to be excited for sure. The guy has the pedigree. On the other hand, Kaos, the lack of "personality" and the use of the cliche from Chizik has to do in part of his military upbringing. You can downplay that all you want but this does play a major part in the personality of a man. Now, I am one to believe that this personality is one that he uses for those that is not in his inner-circle. The recruits, recruits parents, and the current players love this guy. This is what truly matters. In the end, if Auburn is either winning or showing signs of progress then the fans and media will be behind him.