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Title: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2023, 11:23:56 AM
Every time I open the front door, I feel like I feel like I'm checking the corn bread. It's hot as a bushman's balls.

Yesterday, I was off, and needed to work on a big bed in the back yard that had been neglected all summer. Pull all the weeds and vines I could, weed eat the rest, spray the remainder with weed killer.  Pull up 3 bushes that bit the dust, Trim up the rest and lay down the straw. 

I started mid morning to try and avoid the extreme heat, but didn't get finished until 1:00.  I did it in stages, where I would pull the weeds....take a break....weed eat and spray....take a break....dig up the bushes....take a break. Went through about 5 bottles of water. 

After I finished, cooled down and took a shower, it's like the rest of the day, I felt like a zombie.  Just drained and lifeless. Couple of weeks ago, I was cleaning some brush and cutting down a couple of small trees that were about to fall.  About 45 minutes in, my fat ass was on one knee, seeing stars.

This heat is no joke.  I can't even begin to see how anyone in the roofing business survives it. And I did see some roofers getting after it yesterday afternoon.  Yeesh!!!
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 08, 2023, 11:32:10 AM
It's dangerous heat.  Really, let that shit slide for a while until it cools off.  You can be in big trouble before you realize it.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 08, 2023, 11:35:46 AM
It's dangerous heat.  Really, let that shit slide for a while until it cools off.  You can be in big trouble before you realize it.

Dude takes a break every 3-5 mins. Just like he does at the office when he decides to skip to  Panera or the Ross Clark Gym with Flex.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 08, 2023, 11:37:04 AM
Dude takes a break every 3-5 mins. Just like he does at the office when he decides to skip to  Panera or the Ross Clark Gym with Flex.

Well, if he were the strapping vision of youth and fitness that yours truly exhibits, then I'd say go for it.

But his old ass needn't be outside in this shit.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2023, 11:41:49 AM
Dude takes a break every 3-5 mins. Just like he does at the office when he decides to skip to  Panera or the Ross Clark Gym with Flex.

Pffffffft.....I've already had 3 stretches this morning alone, where I worked for 10-12 minutes straight without stopping. I'm like an Iron Man around here. 

I ran a couple of errands yesterday afternoon, and the temp gauge in the Ford F-150 constantly said 99 or 100. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 08, 2023, 12:29:54 PM
Well, if he were the strapping vision of youth and fitness that yours truly exhibits, then I'd say go for it.

But his old ass needn't be outside in this shit.

youre lookin out for him
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 08, 2023, 01:01:41 PM
youre lookin out for him

You might even call me a lawyer who...cares.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 08, 2023, 01:04:25 PM
You might even call me a lawyer who...cares.

Just the types I would call in a pinch.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2023, 02:24:44 PM
Just the types I would call in a pinch.

I'll pinch you, big boy.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 08, 2023, 02:25:48 PM
I'll pinch you, big boy.

how about a slip n fall at the Pig?
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2023, 02:50:15 PM
how about a slip n fall at the Pig?

I'll take it, but Wal Marks pays better.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 08, 2023, 03:07:24 PM
I’m just gonna say this.  It’s always been like this. We are just getting older and less able to tolerate it. 

In high school when I was playing ball and writing for the newspaper it wes over 100 for something like 15 straight days.  We worked in it.  Played a weekend tournament in it.  Hell, during a three hour practice we had one 15 minute water break. In this heat. From a hose with holes poked in it. We got acclimated. 

We didn’t have weather warriors screaming about it or issuing deadly heat warnings and wringing their hands over faux “climate change”


I remember my grandmothers house didn’t have AC at all.  Fans in the windows.  Just as hot then as it is now.  We ran fans in the windows.  Spent a lot of time in shorts and not much else.  Well… my Mama wore more than that.

My 65 Mustang didn’t have AC. Just as hot then as now.  I ate, drank, slept and fucked in that car in weather so hot the vinyl seats would leave sear marks on your narrow ass and the metal handles would brand you. 

We were just smarter about it then. We got used to it. 

AC has spoiled and weakened us. That’s the reality. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2023, 03:29:15 PM
I’m just gonna say this.  It’s always been like this. We are just getting older and less able to tolerate it. 

In high school when I was playing ball and writing for the newspaper it wes over 100 for something like 15 straight days.  We worked in it.  Played a weekend tournament in it.  Hell, during a three hour practice we had one 15 minute water break. In this heat. From a hose with holes poked in it. We got acclimated. 

We didn’t have weather warriors screaming about it or issuing deadly heat warnings and wringing their hands over faux “climate change”


I remember my grandmothers house didn’t have AC at all.  Fans in the windows.  Just as hot then as it is now.  We ran fans in the windows.  Spent a lot of time in shorts and not much else.  Well… my Mama wore more than that.

My 65 Mustang didn’t have AC. Just as hot then as now.  I ate, drank, slept and fucked in that car in weather so hot the vinyl seats would leave sear marks on your narrow ass and the metal handles would brand you. 

We were just smarter about it then. We got used to it. 

AC has spoiled and weakened us. That’s the reality.

No doubt that age, and working all day in an air conditioned office has a ton to do with it. Growing up, we lived outside.  Played every sport under sun, literally, no matter how hot it was.

We were in Montgomery this weekend staying with my sister. If you walk out her front door, you're feet from the Huntingdon College football field.  It was 157 degrees, and those guys were out there running around like it was a brisk, Fall afternoon.  I was dripping sweat by the time I turned around and walked back in the house. 

Had to get another frosty, cold brew and sit under a vent. Damn, it's hot!!!
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 08, 2023, 04:57:13 PM
We used to walk to and from school in this heat.  Uphill both ways.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 08, 2023, 05:54:57 PM
Growing up, we lived outside.
I know it was a long time ago but I always assumed that since your dad was a physician that he could have afforded a house.

You guys did have it pretty rough.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 09, 2023, 09:59:20 AM
No doubt that age, and working all day in an air conditioned office has a ton to do with it.

But mostly it's that our planet is burning around us.  There is no dispute amongst the (legitimate) scientific community on this issue.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 09, 2023, 12:03:22 PM
But mostly it's that our planet is burning around us.  There is no dispute amongst the (legitimate) scientific community on this issue.

HAHAHAHAHAHA... Here's a picture of Wes.

(https://modernfarmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Funny-Sheep-Facts.jpg)

I will refrain from being rude but you have to be an idiot to buy into this "climate change" hoax. 

Cliimate change is ABSOLUTE bullshit.  Cherry-picked numbers and date-ranges. Bogus statistics. Fraudulent reports. Shifting goalposts. 

It does not exist as claimed. The seas aren't rising.  That's a lie.  The polar bears aren't all dying. Another lie. The poles aren't melting to the point they'll never recover. Another lie. Every bit of it is a manufactured crisis, an utter falsehood. 

The earth warms and cools over time (centuries) as part of its natural cycle.  There is NOTHING you, I, Wes or a billion Chinese can do about it.  You don't have to be a genius to see that over many years and years (as evidenced by the archeological record) that across the eons there have been peaks and valleys.  The current peak isn't even close to the highest- way back before cows farted, cars ran on gas, people cooked on gas stoves, and coal was burned.  But real, legit, not bought-and-paid-for, scientists tend to agree that we are about at the apex of the current peak and there's an ice age on the horizon. 

If you're a climate changer, you're a fucking bleating sheep.  Period.  It's a manufactured crisis designed to herd the sheep and push the world closer to rule by a handful of elites.

Wake up.  Don't just baaaa along with the rest, Wes.  You're smarter than that. 

I say that and then I remember the same Wes claiming the absolute scientific fact of "global climate change" was also all in on masks (horseshit), jabs (deadly) and the entire Covid fraud. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 09, 2023, 12:47:51 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA... Here's a picture of Wes.

(https://modernfarmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Funny-Sheep-Facts.jpg)

I will refrain from being rude but you have to be an idiot to buy into this "climate change" hoax. 

Cliimate change is ABSOLUTE bullshit.  Cherry-picked numbers and date-ranges. Bogus statistics. Fraudulent reports. Shifting goalposts. 

It does not exist as claimed. The seas aren't rising.  That's a lie.  The polar bears aren't all dying. Another lie. The poles aren't melting to the point they'll never recover. Another lie. Every bit of it is a manufactured crisis, an utter falsehood. 

The earth warms and cools over time (centuries) as part of its natural cycle.  There is NOTHING you, I, Wes or a billion Chinese can do about it.  You don't have to be a genius to see that over many years and years (as evidenced by the archeological record) that across the eons there have been peaks and valleys.  The current peak isn't even close to the highest- way back before cows farted, cars ran on gas, people cooked on gas stoves, and coal was burned.  But real, legit, not bought-and-paid-for, scientists tend to agree that we are about at the apex of the current peak and there's an ice age on the horizon. 

If you're a climate changer, you're a fucking bleating sheep.  Period.  It's a manufactured crisis designed to herd the sheep and push the world closer to rule by a handful of elites.

Wake up.  Don't just baaaa along with the rest, Wes.  You're smarter than that. 

I say that and then I remember the same Wes claiming the absolute scientific fact of "global climate change" was also all in on masks (horseshit), jabs (deadly) and the entire Covid fraud.
This reminds me to ask. Did you ever take your clot shot?

You do realize that if you plan on going to any x gates you will have to show proof. And wear a mask.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: AUJarhead on August 09, 2023, 01:44:59 PM
But mostly it's that our planet is burning around us.  There is no dispute amongst the (legitimate) scientific community on this issue.

Live look at Wes after posting this and waiting...

(https://media.tenor.com/tS5g0Fvb0PAAAAAM/laughing-muttley.gif)

Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 09, 2023, 02:04:07 PM
Live look at Wes after posting this and waiting...


Shit.  I'm not even interested in engaging on such an obvious point.  Some folks have followed the dumb all the way off the cliff and are lost forever.  Pretty sad, really.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 09, 2023, 02:42:08 PM
Shit.  I'm not even interested in engaging on such an obvious point.  Some folks have followed the dumb all the way off the cliff and are lost forever.  Pretty sad, really.

The truth is probably somewhere in between, which is majority of the time the case.  Humans of course have an impact on environmental factors.  The question is how much?  How much is just a natural, cyclical happening?  What is a horse shoe and what does a horse shoe do?  Are there any horse socks?  We need these questions answered.

Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 09, 2023, 02:44:03 PM
The truth is probably somewhere in between, which is majority of the time the case.  Humans of course have an impact on environmental factors.  The question is how much?  How much is just a natural, cyclical happening?

Not sure why THIS ^^ is so hard to grasp.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 09, 2023, 03:22:14 PM
The truth is probably somewhere in between, which is majority of the time the case.  Humans of course have an impact on environmental factors.  The question is how much?  How much is just a natural, cyclical happening?  What is a horse shoe and what does a horse shoe do?  Are there any horse socks?  We need these questions answered.

I'm in agreement with this too.  Especially the question of the existence of horse socks.

Whenever I go to the Googles on questions like this, I try to vet the source as best as I can.  I want to find as unbiased a source as possible, but I don't think you can even trust the Goggles anymore.  Well, for quite some time, anyway.  I posed the simple question of, "Who denies climate change exists?"  The following is an excerpt from an article written over 20 years ago, and published on a gubment website, National Institutes of Health.

Whether most scientists outside climatology believe that global warming is happening is less relevant than whether the climatologists do. A letter signed by over 50 leading members of the American Meteorological Society warned about the policies promoted by environmental pressure groups. “The policy initiatives derive from highly uncertain scientific theories. They are based on the unsupported assumption that catastrophic global warming follows from the burning of fossil fuel and requires immediate action. We do not agree.”2 Those who have signed the letter represent the overwhelming majority of climate change scientists in the United States, of whom there are about 60. McMichael and Haines quote the 1995 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is widely believed to “prove” that climate change induced by humans has occurred.3 The original draft document did not say this. What happened was that the policymakers’ summary (which became the “take home message” for politicians) altered the conclusions of the scientists. This led Dr Frederick Seitz, former head of the United States National Academy of Sciences, to write, “In more than sixty years as a member of the American scientific community ... I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report.”4 

Every single site that Google pulled up from that point forward, had to do with calling "Climate Deniers" either wackos, Republicans, or Conservatives.  They all had the same talking points, which centered around, "The overwhelming majority of scientific evidence supporting man made climate change." Anyone who goes against the grain is a lunatic out on the fringe.

Again, I'm of the belief, as Snake stated, that the reality is somewhere in the middle.  Is the world going to end in 10 years, now 6, as the esteemed, Alejandro Occasionally Cortex, declared.  I don't believe it for one second.  But, people have decided not to bring babies into this world on her's and other's advice. Do we need to be mindful of what's going on with our environment, the land, the air and our oceans? Absolutely.  Don't be stupid. Take care of it.

 

Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 09, 2023, 04:08:06 PM
A cataclysmic event is inevitable.

However, we should have a strong conviction to be good stewards of this beautiful world the good Lord lets us inhabit while we are here. Mowing down trees in natural habitats to develop new neighborhoods full of spec houses, oil spills, disruptions of food chains that we are directly responsible for screwing up.  Sometimes we are for sure the problem.

That’s my Wednesday sermon. Tune in next week for more.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 09, 2023, 05:01:47 PM
overwhelming majority of scientific evidence supporting man made climate change." Anyone who goes against the grain is a lunatic out on the fringe.


That is the definition of fringe.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 09, 2023, 05:26:17 PM
That is the definition of fringe.

Is the definition of what a woman is as black and white as the one above, in your opinion?
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 09, 2023, 05:33:09 PM
That is the definition of fringe.

Does that mean it's inevitably wrong though? I am all about some rational discussion on the topic but it almost always resorts to the exact line Snags posted above.......it goes all Red Rider to the "lunatic fringe" which is designed to cast a negative light on anyone who disagrees. The fringe is 100% a statistical thing that is quantifiable by numbers but that's not why they say that in "reports".

I think there is a ton of context to this stuff that gets left out too. Of course humans CAN have an impact on the environment. How much they impact it is what we don't really know. It pisses me off to no end when I see a shit load of chemicals/oil, styrofoam cups and plastic 6 pack rings floating up in a slough on the river with a trash can 20 feet away. But it's a reach to say F150's , steel mills and dump trucks are significantly contributing to record high temps when cataclysmic events have been happening since way before the Industrial Revolution.

To me it's inconclusive. I can't prove or disprove it. And I'm ok with that. I just try to lessen my footprint as best I can. I also know humans ultimately cannot self govern and be pragmatic stewards without rule of law - we've proven it time and time again. I can't make every fat white woman that's 53 NOT drive a Suburban she doesn't need. But if you really wanna look at pollution and possible global impact? Look no further than India and China.....they dwarf anything we do in that regard. And they largely get left alone in the matter.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 09, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
Shit.  I'm not even interested in engaging on such an obvious point. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 09, 2023, 06:12:26 PM
At least we can all agree on our love for Auburn, titties, and beer or wine (for chinook). That’s a good foundation.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: AUJarhead on August 09, 2023, 07:53:55 PM
At least we can all agree on our love for Auburn, titties, and beer or wine (for chinook). That’s a good foundation.

And FUCK GEORGIA
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 09, 2023, 10:09:20 PM
Shit.  I'm not even interested in engaging on such an obvious point.  Some folks have followed the dumb all the way off the cliff and are lost forever.  Pretty sad, really.

It’s not obvious.  It’s not true.  That’s the reality. 

That’s the problem with you. Stopped thinking for yourself a long time ago. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 09, 2023, 10:12:33 PM
At least we can all agree on our love for Auburn, titties, and beer or wine (for chinook). That’s a good foundation.

I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there.  Not a fan of beer whatsoever.  Lukewarm on wine too. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 10, 2023, 06:16:31 AM
I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there.  Not a fan of beer whatsoever.  Lukewarm on wine too.

(https://media.tenor.com/_rsF6fdBa-YAAAAM/your-opinion.gif)
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 10, 2023, 11:39:59 AM
Shit.  I'm not even interested in engaging on such an obvious point. 

Not like you to tuck your tail and run after launching a grenade over the wall.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 10, 2023, 11:51:44 AM
I'm reminded of an obscure scene from Family Guy, where Stewie is having a conversation with a donkey.  (Yes, that obscure) The donkey tells Stewie:

Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose

Stewie: Yes, he was

No, he wasn't

What are you talking about?  He was the main star

No, he wasn't

Yes, he was

No, he wasn't. No...No....No....NO!  NO!  NO!  NO!  NO! HEE HAAAWWWW  HEE HAAWWWWW  HE HAAWWWW
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 10, 2023, 12:03:56 PM
Not like you to tuck your tail and run after launching a grenade over the wall.

I've lost the will/desire to relitigate obvious shit.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 10, 2023, 12:54:28 PM
I've lost the will/desire to relitigate obvious shit.

Handed ass in a bag. Cannot prove baseless cult belief.  Pretends to be "above the fray with superior knowledge."

Wrong.

https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/climate-scientist-admits-the-overwhelming-consensus-is-manufactured/

Since you won't read that because you don't want to consider that you might be (absolutely are) wrong, here are some highlights.
Quote

“It’s a manufactured consensus,” climate scientist Judith Curry tells me.

She says scientists have an incentive to exaggerate risk to pursue “fame and fortune.”

She knows about that because she once spread alarm about climate change.


Kaos had not seen this article prior today. And yet it backs up everything he says.
Quote

Curry was the unusual researcher who looked at criticism of her work and actually concluded: “They had a point.”

Then the Climategate scandal taught her that other climate researchers weren’t so open-minded.

Neither are the alarmists (wes) who refuse to think critically and blindly accept the shit sandwich they've been served.
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The UN created the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

“The IPCC wasn’t supposed to focus on any benefits of warming. The IPCC’s mandate was to look for dangerous human-caused climate change.”

“Then the national funding agencies directed all the funding . . . assuming there are dangerous impacts.”

The researchers quickly figured out that the way to get funded was to make alarmist claims about “man-made climate change.”

This is how “manufactured consensus” happens.


Kaos considers victory dance, decides it's too hot outside -- LIKE EVERY OTHER SUMMER FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS.  Instead he turns up the A/C, points at wes and all those other sheep like him and shakes his head sadly.

As with most things, Kaos will be proved to be right (yet again) in the long run.  Because the natural earth cycles move at a glacial pace (ha! climate change humor), Kaos doubts he will be alive to see these all these hucksters and charlatans fully proven wrong and their sheep-like minions left broke and baffled when temperatures naturally evolve back to lower levels.  Kaos pities wes even as he trounces him.  He had higher hopes, but the wool pulled over wes' eyes is thick.

Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 10, 2023, 01:30:48 PM
I've lost the will/desire to relitigate obvious shit.

I get that, and I'm like that most days Wes, but you know the saying...."don't start no shit, won't be no shit". You had to know that was going to give you blowback.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 10, 2023, 01:56:04 PM
I get that, and I'm like that most days Wes, but you know the saying...."don't start no shit, won't be no shit". You had to know that was going to give you blowback.

He's getting old.  Confused blowback with blowjob. 

All due respect?  The biggest problem I have is with the idea (one you've embraced and espoused) that the "science is settled." 

No. It absolutely is NOT. Science should always be open to revision, new understandings, new data, new theories and facts. 

If it were not so?  We'd still have doctors regularly prescribing leeches.  We'd still believe dinosaurs died out because their brains were too small. We'd still be spraying our gardens with DDT. We'd still accept that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun revolves around us. And that it's flat. We'd still believe the Covid vax is "safe and healthy." Or that it prevents anything.

Maybe you weren't alive in the 70s, but these same "experts" were shitting their pants over a coming ice age.  "Half a degree cooler!!"  There will be an ice sheath extending as far south as Tennessee with 10-15 years.  We were all going to freeze to death.

Does this sound familiar? 

"The evidence in support of these predictions [of global cooling] has now begun to accumulate so massively and overwhelmingly that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it."

It's from a "scientific expert" about 50 years ago. All the "experts" agreed.  The science was settled. These "experts" (morons) were devising plans to melt the icecaps or paint them black so they would absorb heat faster and save us from this global catastrophe.

They can say what they want NOW, but I was there and witnessed it first hand.  When THAT didn't happen, the goal posts shifted and Al Gore discovered a better way to get rich than inventing the internet or putting stickers on records.

They were wrong then. They're wrong now.

There are hundreds and hundreds of examples of widely accepted "science" being proven to be flat out wrong. 

If you're unwilling to accept that this could be the case?  To even consider that you are being lied to by people with something to gain?  That's a deep level of scary, hoss. It's a much bigger and more frightening threat than this horseshit climate change hoax. 

The science should never be settled. The day we sit back and think we know all, fail to research, follow up, or question established theories -- the day the sheep blatantly dismiss any opinion that doesn't jibe with their own?  Turn out the lights. The party's over, pal.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 10, 2023, 03:07:41 PM
I get that, and I'm like that most days Wes, but you know the saying...."don't start no shit, won't be no shit". You had to know that was going to give you blowback.

Sure.  I can try to interject logic and reason, but I don't have to stick around for the resulting parade of idiocy.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 10, 2023, 03:48:08 PM
Sure.  I can try to interject logic and reason, but I don't have to stick around for the resulting parade of idiocy.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't completely disagree with you.  It's a fact that the Earth is warming.  It's a fact that the ice caps are melting & permafrost is thawing.  It's also a fact that the melting of said ice and thawing of said permafrost are resulting in the release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere (methane, carbon dioxide, etc.), as well as ancient diseases that transmit via air or water sources (anthrax, influenza A). It's also a fact that humans could be more cognizant of our daily habits and the negative impact it could have on our environment. 

I disagree that it is established that we are the sole purpose or have the absolute power to reverse it.  This is where I agree with 3rd Person K.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 10, 2023, 08:42:37 PM
I can only speak for myself, but I don't completely disagree with you.  It's a fact that the Earth is warming.  It's a fact that the ice caps are melting & permafrost is thawing.  It's also a fact that the melting of said ice and thawing of said permafrost are resulting in the release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere (methane, carbon dioxide, etc.), as well as ancient diseases that transmit via air or water sources (anthrax, influenza A). It's also a fact that humans could be more cognizant of our daily habits and the negative impact it could have on our environment. 

I disagree that it is established that we are the sole purpose or have the absolute power to reverse it.  This is where I agree with 3rd Person K.

The earth may be getting warmer. 

The point the climate howlers refuse to acknowledge is that it’s happened before and will happen again.  It’s natural. 

It’s getting warmer.  So what?  It’s gonna cool off one day. 

No need for all this hysteria. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 11, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
Sure.  I can try to interject logic and reason, but I don't have to stick around for the resulting parade of idiocy.

What about mine or Snake's response was idiocy? Real question. Thought we were both being pretty reasonable.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 11, 2023, 11:31:33 AM


All due respect?  The biggest problem I have is with the idea (one you've embraced and espoused) that the "science is settled." 


Think you meant Wes, not yours truly.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 11, 2023, 11:40:02 AM
What about mine or Snake's response was idiocy? Real question. Thought we were both being pretty reasonable.

I am guilty of bringing up a "whatabout-ism" in relation to how other things should be defined (the definition of a woman) since he was quick to call opposing opinions "fringe". 

It seemed malicious, probably.  I just genuinely wanted to see his response to see if any opinions deviated from what the party he subscribes to proclaims. I am sure he has some that go against the grain, as he seems like a very smart fella and it would be asinine to agree with every single issue.  Especially since the truth likes to hang out somewhere in the middle in a lot of cases.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 11, 2023, 12:22:14 PM
What about mine or Snake's response was idiocy? Real question. Thought we were both being pretty reasonable.

Serious question. 

Why are you attempting rational discourse with a lunatic?  You should know by now, he's not interested in an exchange of ideas, only in snooting his own warped view as superior to yours. 

Memo:  It's not. 

Consistent theme here. Kaos is right, Wes is wrong.  Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.  There's a decade of history that proves it. That's enough of a sample to make sweeping determinations about the weather that require massive changes in behavior, right?  It's certainly enough time to establish Kaotic dominance. 
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 11, 2023, 01:10:35 PM
Serious question. 

Why are you attempting rational discourse with a lunatic?  You should know by now, he's not interested in an exchange of ideas, only in snooting his own warped view as superior to yours. 

Memo:  It's not. 

Consistent theme here. Kaos is right, Wes is wrong.  Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.  There's a decade of history that proves it. That's enough of a sample to make sweeping determinations about the weather that require massive changes in behavior, right?  It's certainly enough time to establish Kaotic dominance.

Originally? Just trying to have rational discussion. I like it. Thought it may work. I know Wes, he isn't an idiot. 99% of the time I enjoy conversation with him.

Now? Im at the stage of purely proving your point I guess. Snake and I went the rational route. It fell flat. It got balked at. We were rational and got pooped on so now I'm onto asking what was so nutty about what we said...The whole thing is like one big self fulfilling prophecy. Its sad that's where we are.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 11, 2023, 01:17:40 PM
Originally? Just trying to have rational discussion. I like it. Thought it may work. I know Wes, he isn't an idiot. 99% of the time I enjoy conversation with him.

Now? Im at the stage of purely proving your point I guess. Snake and I went the rational route. It fell flat. It got balked at. We were rational and got pooped on so now I'm onto asking what was so nutty about what we said...The whole thing is like one big self fulfilling prophecy. Its sad that's where we are.

Different paths to the same point. 

I go over the top hoping something other than "the science is settled, you are clearly inferior in intellect to me, due to the fact that I listen to NPR" type responses. 

What people like w have never understood is I hear all of it. I consider all of it.  I'm not ignoring what he says, I've just looked at enough information to understand he's being lied to. We all are. 

He'd be in a better place if he'd do the same rather than covering his ears and closing his eyes to anything that's counter to his media-fed beliefs.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 11, 2023, 02:59:33 PM
The best way to settle this is to stop all the sissy ass talk and have a cage match. I’ve got chicken wire and 4x4 posts. That’s all we need.

K and GH vs Wes and (sorry snake) Snake. We can’t make it 3 on 1.

I will be glad to stand outside with a firehose if it gets out of hand. And some mace.

I have empathy for both sides, I guess mainly because I care so much for you as individuals. I don’t really care about the issue. Fuck Al Gore.

I think you should all wear rassling trousers. I assume K will wear Kiss makeup.

If Snake refuses to be on Wes’ team, let’s just make it Kaos vs Wes. They can do it for charity like Elon vs Zuckerberg.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 11, 2023, 03:08:26 PM
The best way to settle this is to stop all the sissy ass talk and have a cage match. I’ve got chicken wire and 4x4 posts. That’s all we need.

K and GH vs Wes and (sorry snake) Snake. We can’t make it 3 on 1.

I will be glad to stand outside with a firehose if it gets out of hand. And some mace.

I have empathy for both sides, I guess mainly because I care so much for you as individuals. I don’t really care about the issue. Fuck Al Gore.

I think you should all wear rassling trousers. I assume K will wear Kiss makeup.

If Snake refuses to be on Wes’ team, let’s just make it Kaos vs Wes. They can do it for charity like Elon vs Zuckerberg.

I'll fight in Wes's corner, no problem.  I must warn the opposition that I get a raging boner when I am punched in the face.  Please ignore it.  I will not use it as a weapon.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 11, 2023, 03:35:37 PM
I'll fight in Wes's corner, no problem.  I must warn the opposition that I get a raging boner when I am punched in the face.  Please ignore it.  I will not use it as a weapon.
That’s kind of why I don’t fight much, anymore. I prefer to fight naked and it’s got to where it stimulates me. I don’t want to make people uncomfortable.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 11, 2023, 03:48:25 PM
Speaking of cage matches, Mini Snags is stepping into the squared circle tomorrow night.  It will be the first time since January, when had double hernia surgery. He's stoked for it. 

My Saturday night card is full.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 11, 2023, 03:53:36 PM
Speaking of cage matches, Mini Snags is stepping into the squared circle tomorrow night.  It will be the first time since January, when had double hernia surgery. He's stoked for it. 

My Saturday night card is full.
What is the Cajun assassin going by, now? Glad he’s able to get back into the ring.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 11, 2023, 03:54:20 PM
What about mine or Snake's response was idiocy? Real question. Thought we were both being pretty reasonable.

Wasn't directed at you, necessarily.  I generally enjoy the give and take, but have grown weary of the "just asking questions" soft attacks on science.  The science here is settled and we're seeing the seas practically boiling while Sicily and Lahaina burn.  Polar ice is at historic lows and receding in an accelerating fashion.  Massive and unprecedented flooding is striking Spain and Norway.  This shit is real and while there have been cyclical periods of warming/cooling it has never happened at the speed at which we're pushing it.

I'm not interested in discussing the matter if the conversation isn't geared towards how we can mitigate and/or slow the rate at which we're destroying this planet.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 11, 2023, 04:13:15 PM
Wasn't directed at you, necessarily.  I generally enjoy the give and take, but have grown weary of the "just asking questions" soft attacks on science.  The science here is settled and we're seeing the seas practically boiling while Sicily and Lahaina burn.  Polar ice is at historic lows and receding in an accelerating fashion.  Massive and unprecedented flooding is striking Spain and Norway.  This shit is real and while there have been cyclical periods of warming/cooling it has never happened at the speed at which we're pushing it.

I'm not interested in discussing the matter if the conversation isn't geared towards how we can mitigate and/or slow the rate at which we're destroying this planet.

You do realize absolutely none of that is true, right? 

And I'm being 100% serious.  None of that is accurate. There are mountains of data and observations that prove those things are false, but they're ignored because that's not where the fear/paranoia money lives.   

The "science" is anything BUT settled. 

Quote
A letter signed by over 50 leading members of the American Meteorological Society warned about the policies promoted by environmental pressure groups. “The policy initiatives derive from highly uncertain scientific theories. They are based on the unsupported assumption that catastrophic global warming follows from the burning of fossil fuel and requires immediate action. We do not agree.”2 Those who have signed the letter represent the overwhelming majority of climate change scientists in the United States, of whom there are about 60. McMichael and Haines quote the 1995 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is widely believed to “prove” that climate change induced by humans has occurred.3 The original draft document did not say this. What happened was that the policymakers’ summary (which became the “take home message” for politicians) altered the conclusions of the scientists. This led Dr Frederick Seitz, former head of the United States National Academy of Sciences, to write, “In more than sixty years as a member of the American scientific community ... I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report.”


Solar power, wind power, kill all the cows because they fart, get cars/gas ovens/gas tools out of the hands of people, etc. All of that is just a fallacy. It's nonsense. 

Yeah, we should stop throwing metric tons of trash in the ocean. Yean, we should clean up our neighborhoods and not throw bags of garbage out the car windows.  Maybe, just maybe, we should stop the urban sprawl and quit paving over everything to make neighborhoods while others remain abandoned.  Fix up what we have, stop building new.  But the entire "green agenda" pushed on by these hysterical and untrue things you state as "fact?"  Well, that's just horseshit.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 11, 2023, 04:18:01 PM
What is the Cajun assassin going by, now? Glad he’s able to get back into the ring.

Aiden Pierce.

For the past few years, a lot of the professionals (TV Rasslin') have either been going back to their real names, small variations of their real names, or just very common type names. Yes, there's still plenty of outrageous branding out there, but Mini decided to go with the trend and keep it simple.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 11, 2023, 04:19:42 PM
Aiden Pierce.

For the past few years, a lot of the professionals (TV Rasslin') have either been going back to their real names, small variations of their real names, or just very common type names. Yes, there's still plenty of outrageous branding out there, but Mini decided to go with the trend and keep it simple.

He should have picked Curb Stomper and gone with that.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 11, 2023, 04:54:29 PM
Sounds like he’s on MASH.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 11, 2023, 04:58:46 PM
Wasn't directed at you, necessarily.  I generally enjoy the give and take, but have grown weary of the "just asking questions" soft attacks on science.  The science here is settled and we're seeing the seas practically boiling while Sicily and Lahaina burn.  Polar ice is at historic lows and receding in an accelerating fashion.  Massive and unprecedented flooding is striking Spain and Norway.  This shit is real and while there have been cyclical periods of warming/cooling it has never happened at the speed at which we're pushing it.

I'm not interested in discussing the matter if the conversation isn't geared towards how we can mitigate and/or slow the rate at which we're destroying this planet.
What is a woman?
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 11, 2023, 05:45:18 PM
What is a woman?

Now on this one.... The science is damn sure settled.  Well done.  I wish I had thought to ask this.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 11, 2023, 05:59:49 PM
Now on this one.... The science is damn sure settled.  Well done.  I wish I had thought to ask this.
We think the science is settled but the libs don’t. The AMA is encouraging MD’s to postpone checking the gender box at birth. I read that on the Internet.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 14, 2023, 09:21:43 AM
Aiden Pierce.

For the past few years, a lot of the professionals (TV Rasslin') have either been going back to their real names, small variations of their real names, or just very common type names. Yes, there's still plenty of outrageous branding out there, but Mini decided to go with the trend and keep it simple.

RIP Cajun Assassin.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: chityeah on August 14, 2023, 01:23:31 PM
You know what's hot? I heard Gal Gadot is hot. That's why there's global warming.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Kaos on August 14, 2023, 02:56:30 PM
You know what's hot? I heard Gal Gadot is hot. That's why there's global warming.

She warms my globes.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 14, 2023, 03:55:18 PM
I generally enjoy the give and take
Snags likes to take it up the ass. You want to give it to him?
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 14, 2023, 04:39:26 PM
You know what's hot? I heard Gal Gadot is hot. That's why there's global warming.

She is the most distractingly beautiful woman I've ever seen.  I can't really enjoy the movies she's in because I don't pay attention to much else.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: Snakebite on August 14, 2023, 04:44:29 PM
She is the most distractingly beautiful woman I've ever seen.  I can't really enjoy the movies she's in because I don't pay attention to much else.

Alexandra Daddario for me

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Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on August 14, 2023, 04:55:32 PM
Alexandra Daddario for me

(https://media.tenor.com/HKeBhq_v0SoAAAAM/alexandra-daddario.gif)

Love her...eyes.  Nah, she's extremely hot.  But Gal gots something else.
Title: Re: It's Hot!!!
Post by: GH2001 on August 14, 2023, 06:10:47 PM
She is the most distractingly beautiful woman I've ever seen.  I can't really enjoy the movies she's in because I don't pay attention to much else.

See, you and K should focus on your commonalities. Gal will bring you together.