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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on November 28, 2022, 04:02:56 PM
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Freeze is the new HC.
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Been real, Kaos.
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Who names their kid after red and green shades of color?
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Can you feel the tension? I can. I can feel down in my plums. Getting a nice, bluish Hugh.
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Can you feel the tension? I can. I can feel down in my plums. Getting a nice, bluish Hugh.
He's one half sanctimonious beaver you know?
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We need to have a pep rally at the airport. Somebody bring the hookers. Hugh loves the hookers.
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Aubrens Twitter didn’t do its job…the big boys did.
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We need to have a pep rally at the airport. Somebody bring the hookers. Hugh loves the hookers.
cocaine on me.
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As promised, I am out. FUCK THIS.
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As promised, I am out. FUCK THIS.
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…but before you go make sure you grab your saint hood on the way out.
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It’s been real and it’s been fun.
Seriously, all kidding aside, fuck all of you guys. And fuck your mom.
Fuck Hugh and his wife, fuck the new AD and his transdicked boy. Fuck his alphabet loving whore of a wife.
I am not renewing my season tickets, either. Hugh can take them and stick them up a prostitute’s fat gash.
I’m going to see if Kaos will let me move in.
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…but before you go make sure you grab your saint hood on the way out.
If the wins come, so will he…
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We need to have a pep rally at the airport. Somebody bring the hookers. Hugh loves the hookers.
No, no, no. Hiring hookers would be like buying fish for a fish monger.
Show some class.
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It’s been real and it’s been fun.
Seriously, all kidding aside, fuck all of you guys. And fuck your mom.
Fuck Hugh and his wife, fuck the new AD and his transdicked boy. Fuck his alphabet loving whore of a wife.
I am not renewing my season tickets, either. Hugh can take them and stick them up a prostitute’s big gash.
I’m going to see if Kaos will let me move in.
Kaos is Jewish.
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No, no, no. Hiring hookers would be like buying fish for a fish monger.
Show some class.
Fine then. We'll use an "Escort Service."
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…but before you go make sure you grab your saint hood on the way out.
I have none. It's not about that.
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If the wins come, so will he…
That's a negative, charlie.
I will not watch, attend or support Auburn football until he's gone. And Cohen too.
This isn't about winning. It's about who Auburn used to be and who it has become. Hiring Hugh Fucking Freeze? That's not the Auburn I've known all my life. I don't care if he wins nine straight national titles. I really don't.
Like that idiot Biden said, "this is a war for the soul of" ... in this case Auburn. And we lost. Fuck it.
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Kaos is Jewish.
Shalom.
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We need to have a pep rally at the airport. Somebody bring the hookers. Hugh loves the hookers.
"We goin' bowling."
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As promised, I am out. FUCK THIS.
Does that mean we can hang out and shit?
How long will he last?
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Rest assured...Deion will build a powerhouse somewhere in short order.
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This is a home run hire! We’re hiring a football coach not a fucking preacher.
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This is a home run hire! We’re hiring a football coach not a fucking preacher.
You can’t convince the Twitter bitches of that.
They’ll cry for a few days and then realize they have been lied to about the egregious behavior of Hugh.
Screw their Kavanaugh attacking asses.
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Might only be an rbi double at this point for me as a fan but it can improve by putting together a really strong staff and getting the talent needed to compete with our two biggest rivals.
As much as a third of the Twitter flak comes from those that just want to be attached to someone they look up to like Elon Musk or the "you heard it here first" type that seizes on anything negative to create a following.
It's not Penn State under Paterno or Baylor under Briles but that distant drumbeat would have you believe that hiring Hugh Freeze is an unforgivable transgression in the face of all the goodness in the world that Auburn stands for and that just isn't so.
I think that Hugh Freeze is a very good football coach. Don't know if he is the best choice for Auburn from the standpoint of honor and virtue but I'm not going to be harshly critical of the man without giving him a fair opportunity to lead the football program.
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This is a home run hire! We’re hiring a football coach not a fucking preacher.
Have you submitted your dog for proper authorization to be here?
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Have you submitted your dog for proper authorization to be here?
Buzz gave me my last good fisting in the Moe’s BBQ parking lot!
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Buzz gave me my last good fisting in the Moe’s BBQ parking lot!
After review, the Judges will accept that.
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After review, the Judges will accept that.
Desecrating a bbq joint isn't frowned upon?
We are supposed to be a civilized people people.
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You can’t convince the Twitter bitches of that.
They’ll cry for a few days and then realize they have been lied to about the egregious behavior of Hugh.
Screw their Kavanaugh attacking asses.
And been lied to that Auburn is some saintly, clean, uppity palace. We haven't been that in quite some time.
K has his reasons. I get it. He will always be a friend of most on here regardless. Its not K that aggravates me. Its OTHERS... The hypocrites. The liars. The sensationalist, emotion Karens who want to pitch a fit and stomp up and down for anything that doesn't go their way. They have zero logic. At the end of the day, this isn't really about Freeze...hes just another domino in this paradigm. The political demagoguery we've seen the last 10-12 years has spilled over into every single facet of life - and that's what I am really seeing in all of this. Its dangerous.
And yes. The treatment of Kavanuagh is a classic case of this mob mentality.
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Desecrating a bbq joint isn't frowned upon?
We are supposed to be a civilized people people.
Well, it WAS in the parking lot.
BTW, Moe's in The Gump is most excellent.
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Well, it WAS in the parking lot.
BTW, Moe's in The Gump is most excellent.
Huh. Must have replaced Archibald's as the go-to pork place.
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Well, it WAS in the parking lot.
BTW, Moe's in The Gump is most excellent.
That lot will never be the same
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That lot will never be the same
I wondered what that yellow crime scene tape was there for.
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And been lied to that Auburn is some saintly, clean, uppity palace. We haven't been that in quite some time.
K has his reasons. I get it. He will always be a friend of most on here regardless. Its not K that aggravates me. Its OTHERS... The hypocrites. The liars. The sensationalist, emotion Karens who want to pitch a fit and stomp up and down for anything that doesn't go their way. They have zero logic. At the end of the day, this isn't really about Freeze...hes just another domino in this paradigm. The political demagoguery we've seen the last 10-12 years has spilled over into every single facet of life - and that's what I am really seeing in all of this. Its dangerous.
And yes. The treatment of Kavanuagh is a classic case of this mob mentality.
The most damning of all is the John Archibald article basically stating that there is a systemic problem of violence against young women on campus at Auburn the last several years and no one connected to the University will address the problem. He then makes the loose connection of hiring of Hugh Freeze as espousing a similar attitude toward women in general.
Dennis Dodd gave his entry with the usual disclaimer about Freeze's misdeeds at Ole Miss only to claim that the football recruiting portion of that is now ripe for the SEC.
John Talty gave a lesser version of the same.
Joseph Goodman and Matt Scalici are birds of a feather and both thrive on slinging shit toward anything Auburn.
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And been lied to that Auburn is some saintly, clean, uppity palace. We haven't been that in quite some time.
K has his reasons. I get it. He will always be a friend of most on here regardless. Its not K that aggravates me. Its OTHERS... The hypocrites. The liars. The sensationalist, emotion Karens who want to pitch a fit and stomp up and down for anything that doesn't go their way. They have zero logic. At the end of the day, this isn't really about Freeze...hes just another domino in this paradigm. The political demagoguery we've seen the last 10-12 years has spilled over into every single facet of life - and that's what I am really seeing in all of this. Its dangerous.
And yes. The treatment of Kavanuagh is a classic case of this mob mentality.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/09/sports/byu-racial-slur-duke-volleyball.html
This is what the mob mentality, court of public opinion gives us. And in the end all we are left with is an unsubstantiated claim.
But damage done.
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I bet Saban is happy all this attention has turned to Freeze's transgressions. Now his collie molestation can easily be swept under the rug.
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Damn it, Were gonna come back next year for a game, We have our bus tickets. Were gonna pack sack lunches to save some money and we found a place right off off 280 (black knight inn?)
Now I have to rethink if I want to spend that kind of money.
I hope he is able to bring in some excellent coordinators. Deion?
Honestly, I'll have a vague interest at the start of next season, I'll follow games on my phone.
Gus and Harsin did so much damage to this program, it will take a few years to dig out of the hole.
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All the Woke Auburn comments make me love the hire.
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All the Woke Auburn comments make me love the hire.
Fo sho!!!
I don't have a problem with the hire. Not my first choice, but he's the man now, and I'm ready to see what he can do. Hopefully, he hires some great assistants, grabs a couple of wheelbarrows of NIL cash and heads out on the recruiting trail.
As for his past "transgressions", as long as he wasn't molesting young boys, or puppies, I'm good. You think ole Hugh was the first football coach to ever seek out a little side piece? That's between him and his wife, and if they worked things out, I think I can live with it.
On the NCAA dealio, I went back and read all the allegations and what they got popped for. I hate to break it to folks, but I've seen worse at Auburn with my own eyes. It goes on everywhere. And I mean everywhere. Always has, and always will. But now it's legal. Hell, Lou Holtz left an ass load of NCAA sanctions in his wake, and he's in the Hall of Fame. I think. Is he? Problem was, Freeze beat Lord Saybinz 2 years in a row. That's not allowed.
I would think that Freeze knows this is the last shot he has at a gig like this. I would also think he's gonna' work his ass off to prove himself and make this program a national contender again. Should be interesting.
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Fo sho!!!
I don't have a problem with the hire. Not my first choice, but he's the man now, and I'm ready to see what he can do. Hopefully, he hires some great assistants, grabs a couple of wheelbarrows of NIL cash and heads out on the recruiting trail.
As for his past "transgressions", as long as he wasn't molesting young boys, or puppies, I'm good. You think ole Hugh was the first football coach to ever seek out a little side piece? That's between him and his wife, and if they worked things out, I think I can live with it.
On the NCAA dealio, I went back and read all the allegations and what they got popped for. I hate to break it to folks, but I've seen worse at Auburn with my own eyes. It goes on everywhere. And I mean everywhere. Always has, and always will. But now it's legal. Hell, Lou Holtz left an ass load of NCAA sanctions in his wake, and he's in the Hall of Fame. I think. Is he? Problem was, Freeze beat Lord Saybinz 2 years in a row. That's not allowed.
I would think that Freeze knows this is the last shot he has at a gig like this. I would also think he's gonna' work his ass off to prove himself and make this program a national contender again. Should be interesting.
I agree with Senator Heflin the esteemed barrister
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Fuck this.
I'm not out (for the family, friends and community), but I'm not fucking in (for bucktooth mcfucksploosh).
This guy is a shit-sucking huckster without half a resume that would justify the beclowning we're taking for the hire.
It's another stupid, short-sighted, foot-shot of a decision and Auburn football will suffer for it.
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Fuck this.
I'm not out (for the family, friends and community), but I'm not fucking in (for bucktooth mcfucksploosh).
This guy is a shit-sucking huckster without half a resume that would justify the beclowning we're taking for the hire.
It's another stupid, short-sighted, foot-shot of a decision and Auburn football will suffer for it.
He's no Chad Morris, I'll grant you that.
Again, not my first choice, or second, or third for that matter. As I said multiple times when Breland Hisvrinz was let go, I thought Auburn finally needed to go big splash. Find the biggest names out there and don't take no for an answer. Make the college football world sit up and take notice.
This wasn't it.
But, I think the guy is a solid coach. Not great, but solid. He's won wherever he's been, and I'm interested to see what he can do when he has everything a coach could ever need at his disposal.
As far as the beclowning, even Finebaum said a week from now, nobody will be saying a word about it. And remember, there are still plenty of peeps outside of Auburn who think Bruce Pearl is the huckster, and everything wrong with college sports. But he wins. Same with Freeze. If he wins, who gives a fuck?
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He's no Chad Morris, I'll grant you that.
Again, not my first choice, or second, or third for that matter. As I said multiple times when Breland Hisvrinz was let go, I thought Auburn finally needed to go big splash. Find the biggest names out there and don't take no for an answer. Make the college football world sit up and take notice.
This wasn't it.
But, I think the guy is a solid coach. Not great, but solid. He's won wherever he's been, and I'm interested to see what he can do when he has everything a coach could ever need at his disposal.
As far as the beclowning, even Finebaum said a week from now, nobody will be saying a word about it. And remember, there are still plenty of peeps outside of Auburn who think Bruce Pearl is the huckster, and everything wrong with college sports. But he wins. Same with Freeze. If he wins, who gives a fuck?
The ten or so commitments don't seem phased given the wait and see comments I read. What can they say?
'I'm changing my mind and going to Coastal or Ga Southern.
As many as half probably weren't recruited by our rivals but so far it seems there are none talking of hurting themselves or someone else I might add.
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But, I think the guy is a solid coach. Not great, but solid. He's won wherever he's been
2011 Arkansas State 10–2
Arkansas State: 10–2
Ole Miss Rebels (Southeastern Conference) (2012–2016)
2012 Ole Miss 7–6
2013 Ole Miss 8–5
2014 Ole Miss 9–4
2015 Ole Miss 10–3
2016 Ole Miss 5–7
Ole Miss: 37–25 (27 wins vacated by NCAA)
Liberty Flames (NCAA Division I FBS independent) (2019–2022)
2019 Liberty 8–5
2020 Liberty 10–1
2021 Liberty 8–5
2022 Liberty 8–4
Liberty: 34–15
So, a 10 win season every 3-4 years? Welcome back, Kotter Gustav...with a lighter checkbook, a black eye and a fanbase divided.
Great fucking job, new guy.
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2011 Arkansas State 10–2
Arkansas State: 10–2
Ole Miss Rebels (Southeastern Conference) (2012–2016)
2012 Ole Miss 7–6
2013 Ole Miss 8–5
2014 Ole Miss 9–4
2015 Ole Miss 10–3
2016 Ole Miss 5–7
Ole Miss: 37–25 (27 wins vacated by NCAA)
Liberty Flames (NCAA Division I FBS independent) (2019–2022)
2019 Liberty 8–5
2020 Liberty 10–1
2021 Liberty 8–5
2022 Liberty 8–4
Liberty: 34–15
So, a 10 win season every 3-4 years? Welcome back, Kotter Gustav...with a lighter checkbook, a black eye and a fanbase divided.
Great fucking job, new guy.
Freeze might not be much on the dance floor but he has bigger titties than Gustav and might even measure up Corch Pearl's in a wet tee shirt contest. Just an observation.
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Fuck this.
I'm not out (for the family, friends and community), but I'm not fucking in (for bucktooth mcfucksploosh).
This guy is a shit-sucking huckster without half a resume that would justify the beclowning we're taking for the hire.
It's another stupid, short-sighted, foot-shot of a decision and Auburn football will suffer for it.
Wow.
Done with your vaginal tantrum?
Brutal honesty? You guys don’t know fucking shit. You have zero idea. Maybe he flames out. Maybe he doesn’t. But you do not know. You say all this emotional charged shit like you know all this for fact. No debate.
Don’t be in. Don’t be out. Who gives a shit. I hope you guys get this out of your system soon. It’s already getting stale.
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Wow.
Done with your vaginal tantrum?
Brutal honesty? You guys don’t know fucking shit. You have zero idea. Maybe he flames out. Maybe he doesn’t. But you do not know. You say all this emotional charged shit like you know all this for fact. No debate.
Don’t be in. Don’t be out. Who gives a shit. I hope you guys get this out of your system soon. It’s already getting stale.
Yeah I wanted a total 180 from the old method of choosing a coach. It probably wasn't realistic although I think the hangup with Deion was how you rationalize getting his salary up to competitive means for the SEC over anything else.
My favorite coach overall is Kyle Whittingham but of course he's not of this region.
The coach I'm most proud of avoiding at Auburn is James Franklin because to me he makes Mike Leach seem very grounded.
This wasn't my choice to make but I'm enough of a fan to think this might be the best choice overall given the niche that is particularly Auburn.
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He’s a cruiter
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Wow.
Done with your vaginal tantrum?
Brutal honesty? You guys don’t know fucking shit. You have zero idea. Maybe he flames out. Maybe he doesn’t. But you do not know. You say all this emotional charged shit like you know all this for fact. No debate.
Don’t be in. Don’t be out. Who gives a shit. I hope you guys get this out of your system soon. It’s already getting stale.
Without emotion, I posted his numbers above.
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Wes,
Legit question for you, as I know you’ve been exchanging tweets in this same vane…
The basic sentiment I’ve seen with regard to female Auburn fans is how they are “traumatized” by the hiring of HF.
How? I don’t see his DMs as anything remotely close to harassment. Is he a dumbass for sending them? I think so, but I also don’t think he’s defending a sexual predator.
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Without emotion, I posted his numbers above.
yeah but your wokeness was preceded.
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This is going to be the last time I comment on this topic (I hope) but there are some misconceptions here. First, I'm about as far from woke as you can get. Opposing this hire during the process and being deeply unhappy with the decision once it's made has nothing to do with being woke, liberal, virtual lynch mob or anything remotely like that. Second, I've loved and still love Auburn for my entire life. I love what Auburn represents (represented). I like (most of) my brothers and sisters who feel the same. Even the dumb ones. There are some I don't like but that's any family. Third, this has been a long time coming. Since about the time Tuberville was shoved out, it seems like Auburn started to change -- in a direction I have grown increasingly uncomfortable with. This hire just seems like a tipping point for me. Fourth, if you've learned anything about me in the decades we've shared this space, you know my spidey sense isn't perfect, but it's pretty good. I'm right more often than I'm wrong. It's buzzing like a fat teenager's vibrator after a Harry Styles concert right now. Fifth, my opposition to his hire has nothing to do with not "forgiving" him for his past transgressions (not my place) or thinking I'm more moral or whatever. I don't. Everybody fucks up. I have. I will again. It's not about fucking up, it's how you deal with it and that is where my opposition to Freeze begins.
I don't want this to be about feelings. I need it to be about facts. So before you brand me as a hysterical Karen, here are the facts that led me to this place.
1. Despite the projection, he's not a "great" coach. Wes posted his record. It speaks for itself. Auburn needed to make a strong statement with this hire. This isn't it. It's my personal opinion that Gus is a better coach than this guy. For that reason, I honestly believe this is a step back and down.
2. I don't care that he hired escorts. Who hasn't? It's problematic if he was procuring them for high school seniors, but that's never been proven. My issue is his arrogance and stupidity. He used his company phone. Only a moron would do that. It's a level of stupidity that can't be redeemed.
3. I don't care that he cheated. Who doesn't? Once again, it was the arrogance and stupidity of how he did it and then how he dealt with the aftermath. Quoting scripture online and pumping his own piousness? Going online and daring people to turn them in? Lying about what he knew to the point that Houston Nutt sued him - a lawsuit which led to his phone records being exposed? That's an even bigger level of stupidity. It can't be fixed. The man is a liar. He is a cheater. It bothers me that he is now being stirred in the same pot with Bruce, which isn't remotely fair. Freeze is what he is, he will do it again. Leopards are always leopards. And he's a stupid leopard.
4. I do care that when he's cornered, his fallback position is to throw himself on the cross and invoke Jesus. I find it disingenuous and phony. He's Jimmy Swaggart in a visor. He's Jim Bakker in a sweater. I don't have a lot of tolerance for those people.
I had other things, and it was written better than this originally but my dog jumped on the keyboard and deleted it. Maybe that was a sign.
I still love Auburn. Always will. I just can't accept Freeze. I won't campaign for his dismissal. I won't wish him harm. I won't hope the team loses. Auburn needed to hire a strong, positive presence to help restore the dignity to the program. Instead it pulled Colonel Harvey and his Magic Elixir off the streets of Mayberry.
It just doesn't work for me. For my own sake (and for yours probably) I need to put it away.
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He took our 3rd string QB (Willis) that we all thought could not throw it in the ocean if he was standing on the shore and made him a first round draft pick.
I'm hoping we finally have a coach who can put a decent QB on the field.
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I still love Auburn. Always will. I just can't accept Freeze. I won't campaign for his dismissal. I won't wish him harm. I won't hope the team loses.
I can respect this. If I didn’t like the hire, I might back off, but I would never wish for the demise.
We have sanctimonious asses that are openly campaigning for the coach and team to fail. That is one shitty fanbase and it’s not the coach that is the problem at AU. This problem spans coaches.
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All valid reasons, Kaos, and I respect that. My question is about the general “Auburn isn’t respecting women” by this hire.
Don’t like his record? Great, that’s a valid reason to not support this hire.
Don’t like that he called escorts? Fine. I get it.
Think he’s Gus 2.0? Yep. I can see that. We paid 30 million dollars to get rid of two coaches, only to end up with maybe a not as good version of the first guy we fired.
But when I read on Facebook that he’s been accused of sexual assault, or that his players committed sexual assault, or that he’s harassing a sexual assault victim, I have to ask, did he? That this hire is traumatizing to women, I can’t fathom how.
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I can respect this. If I didn’t like the hire, I might back off, but I would never wish for the demise.
We have sanctimonious asses that are openly campaigning for the coach and team to fail. That is one shitty fanbase and it’s not the coach that is the problem at AU. This problem spans coaches.
The only time I've ever been okay with losing was this season. If it meant Harsin's tenure ending, lose now, lose big and get him and his trash ass family out of here before any more damage was done. I was okay with short-term pain if it prevented long-term damage.
I just wish we hadn't scooped up the Dollar General version of Houston Nutt (now with cheating, lying, holy rolling flavor!) to replace him. We needed an unquestioned leader to right the ship. A strong, confident, respected force to take command and control. But what's done is done. They're riding with Peter Popoff and the miracle spring water. That's about 14 years now of bad choices. I'm too old for this shit.
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All valid reasons, Kaos, and I respect that. My question is about the general “Auburn isn’t respecting women” by this hire.
Don’t like his record? Great, that’s a valid reason to not support this hire.
Don’t like that he called escorts? Fine. I get it.
Think he’s Gus 2.0? Yep. I can see that. We paid 30 million dollars to get rid of two coaches, only to end up with maybe a not as good version of the first guy we fired.
But when I read on Facebook that he’s been accused of sexual assault, or that his players committed sexual assault, or that he’s harassing a sexual assault victim, I have to ask, did he? That this hire is traumatizing to women, I can’t fathom how.
It's the world we live in now. It's not one I relate to.
I have a new business and currently have about a dozen 20-25 year olds working part time for me. Their worldview is lunacy. Guys and girls both. Hate capitalism. Embrace socialism. Want to erase the contributions of historical figures because they don't live up to today's 'standards.' Thomas Jefferson? Tear down his statues, tear up the Declaration of Independence! He didn't support gay marriage.
Every single one of them spends a good portion of every day looking for a reason to be outraged. When I tell one who's about to graduate with a degree in 'computer engineering' that the immediate $150 - $300,000 a year salary her professors assure her is waiting for her on the first day out the door is an idea not based in reality it's not that she needs to build a resume of actual work over time... it's that the white male cis patriarchy of the system conspires to keep her down. When I go to put up Christmas decorations I'm told that the idea that poor people need a kindly, benevolent white man to bring them gifts is insulting and oppressive and harkens back to slaves being granted the basics by their white masters.
I don't know that he did any of those things. I do know that he's put himself in some bad positions because of his own repeated stupidity. He hasn't denied it. He's given mealy mouth psuedo apologies (always invoking his godliness), so I assume there's some smoke with the fire.
But I'm no fan of the lynch mob, 'what is my outrage for today' crowd or the way they've responded to this (or anything for that matter). I understand being disappointed. Hell, I am. But this shit of demanding that people, businesses, etc. bow down to your personal outrage is asinine.
I saw somebody bring up Kavanaugh. That's only a semi-fair comparison. Kavanaugh didn't do anything, all the claims made against him were completely fabricated with no evidence. That's not the case here. So it's a little different.
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He took our 3rd string QB (Willis) that we all thought could not throw it in the ocean if he was standing on the shore and made him a first round draft pick.
I'm hoping we finally have a coach who can put a decent QB on the field.
Speak for yourself. I called Malik QB1 after his ADay performance. Gus kept running other schmos out there.
Wes,
Legit question for you, as I know you’ve been exchanging tweets in this same vane…
The basic sentiment I’ve seen with regard to female Auburn fans is how they are “traumatized” by the hiring of HF.
How? I don’t see his DMs as anything remotely close to harassment. Is he a dumbass for sending them? I think so, but I also don’t think he’s defending a sexual predator.
He was using his position and prestige as the FB coach to try to silence the accuser and/or her advocate. The power dynamic alone was enough to constitute harassment/victim silencing. Women already underreport SA because they are rarely believed and Hugh's lobbying for his pal was another brick in that wall.
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Malik is one I don't really blame Gus for. When you get Jarrett Stidham to transfer in, Jarrett Stidham is getting the reps. Then, when you sign a 5* QB who was part of the Elite 11...same. Very similar, IMO, to Joe Fucking Burrow. He was good enough to get signed by THE Ohio State University, but that man wasn't taking any real snaps to show what he could do.
I think Willis also developed physically after he left Auburn. He entered the NFL about 25 pounds heavier than when he played here.
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He was using his position and prestige as the FB coach to try to silence the accuser and/or her advocate. The power dynamic alone was enough to constitute harassment/victim silencing. Women already underreport SA because they are rarely believed and Hugh's lobbying for his pal was another brick in that wall.
Thanks, Wes.
Per her Twitter, Chelsea Andrews is a 2015 graduate of LU. One would assume that her sexual assault happened prior to her graduation.
McCaw was AD at Baylor at the time that Chelsea's sexual assault would have happened. Now, as we all know, Baylor has it's own sexual assault problems, but to my knowledge, McCaw was never implicated in that investigation. He resigned from Baylor in May of 2016 as a result of the Baylor scandal though, and was hired by LU in November of 2016. He then hired Freeze in 2018. In July 2022, Andrews was tweeting critically about LU and it's athletics program, in particular the hiring of McCaw and the optics of his involvement with BU. Freeze then sent her the now famous DM (which, I'll concede, was a dumbass thing to do).
And apparently HF has now apologized for sending the DMs.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2022/11/hugh-freeze-apologizes-for-unsolicited-dms-to-former-liberty-student.html
I guess what I'm saying is that since her sexual assault happened prior to Freeze arriving at LU, I don't have an issue with Auburn not interviewing her about the Freeze DMs. They are creepy, but I guess I'm not seeing how they demonstrate any intent to silence or coerce her (and I believe the lawsuit was settled at this point, too, but I could be wrong).
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They are creepy, but I guess I'm not seeing how they demonstrate any intent to silence or coerce her (and I believe the lawsuit was settled at this point, too, but I could be wrong).
Anyone wielding his power against a relative nobody (in the power structure), putting his thumb on the scale, is intimidating and harassing by definition.
The fact that it isn't overt doesn't matter. The timing of the DMs relative to the assault/trial/settlement doesn't matter.
The fact that this subtlety is lost on a lot of men (not singling you our here Jarhead) is why women are hesitant to report harassment. In a vacuum, it looks totally reasonable...but nothing happens in a vacuum.
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The fact that this subtlety is lost on a lot of men (not singling you our here Jarhead) is why women are hesitant to report harassment. In a vacuum, it looks totally reasonable...but nothing happens in a vacuum.
Don't think you are, so please don't think that. Just legitimately asking, because I don't understand.
Thanks for your clarification.
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Thanks, Wes.
Per her Twitter, Chelsea Andrews is a 2015 graduate of LU. One would assume that her sexual assault happened prior to her graduation.
McCaw was AD at Baylor at the time that Chelsea's sexual assault would have happened. Now, as we all know, Baylor has it's own sexual assault problems, but to my knowledge, McCaw was never implicated in that investigation. He resigned from Baylor in May of 2016 as a result of the Baylor scandal though, and was hired by LU in November of 2016. He then hired Freeze in 2018. In July 2022, Andrews was tweeting critically about LU and it's athletics program, in particular the hiring of McCaw and the optics of his involvement with BU. Freeze then sent her the now famous DM (which, I'll concede, was a dumbass thing to do).
And apparently HF has now apologized for sending the DMs.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2022/11/hugh-freeze-apologizes-for-unsolicited-dms-to-former-liberty-student.html
I guess what I'm saying is that since her sexual assault happened prior to Freeze arriving at LU, I don't have an issue with Auburn not interviewing her about the Freeze DMs. They are creepy, but I guess I'm not seeing how they demonstrate any intent to silence or coerce her (and I believe the lawsuit was settled at this point, too, but I could be wrong).
To me, it's an act of hubris and stupidity that clearly illustrates that he learned NOTHING after brazenly challenging people to turn Ole Miss in if they had anything -- knowing he'd been cheating his ass off. It's the same stupidity and hubris that led him to all the holy rolling, scripture quoting "I'm just a man who made a mistake" Jimmy Swaggarting when he got busted. It's the same unrepentant ego and arrogance that allowed him to boldly declare that it was all Houston Nutt's fault when he very nearly single handedly got Ole Miss nuked like SMU.
He didn't learn anything. He's still doing it.
He had the gall to stand up there and say (according to al.com, I didn't listen or watch) that he hadn't heard any negative reaction because he'd been off social media entirely for three or four weeks. That's not true. IF he said that (and I don't trust al.communist to tell the truth) it's just another lie in a pervasive pattern of lies. He can't help himself. But he walks with Jesus, so we're good!
I said it wasn't about feelings, and I don't want it to be. I do think his record shows that unless he can cheat (in recruiting and on the field) he's not even an average coach. He's kind of a dumber version of Gus. A buck-toothed Mike Leach. But the reality is a lot of my position IS feeling based.
I have zero tolerance for the pious holy roller types that he's consistently shown himself to be. I'm a Christian, but I don't go around wearing it like a cloak of superiority because I know that I'm flawed in a lot of ways. There are things I have to fight, just like we all do. I'm not ashamed of my beliefs and will defend them if pushed. Hypocrites like Freeze give my faith a bad name. His behavior tends to drive people away and give non-believers a solid platform from which to say "see? it's all phony." Him, Swaggart, Bakker, Falwell, Popoff, etc. all make it easier to dismiss and marginalize the Christian faith - which is important to me. Combine that with Auburn? Two things that define my core values and are critical to who I am and who I want to be? It's a one-two punch that has pushed me over the edge.
Forgiveness and second chances have nothing to do with it. If somebody steals from me I'll forgive it. But I'm not going to put them in charge of my cash register no matter how much they say they've changed. I forgive the guy who killed my first wife (even though he's dead) but I don't want to have anything to do with him or his family.
We needed a unifying hire. This guy, for many reasons, is about as polarizing as it gets. If (and I say when) he does something monumentally stupid in his personal life or if (and I say when) he isn't able to move the needle as a coach I'm concerned about the long term impact. If Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber is our BEST option today? What happens in two, three, five years when we're digging out from under either a PR nightmare, a NCAA execution or a string of lackluster performances? Can we recover then? I honestly don't know.
Anyway... I'm still commenting. It kind of pissed me off to see the idea expressed here that the ONLY people who opposed this guy were woke liberal pussies who sky scream on Tweeter. That's not realistic. All these emotional "I'm triggered" responses to his past behaviors are out of bounds. I don't support it.
It's just that if he's who Auburn wants to be, then I need to take a break from it. I hope he has changed (but you can't fix stupid, you know). I hope he has learned from his past. I'll be glad if he succeeds, but my spidey sense says he won't.
Good luck to you and yours.
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Don't think you are, so please don't think that. Just legitimately asking, because I don't understand.
Thanks for your clarification.
since you are wondering, my disdain for the Buck toothed hillbilly has nothing to do with the mommy part who tried to set him up.
You were wondering, right?
His response was dumb. I can say he is a dumbass all day but he makes more money than I ever will. So…
He would have been fired if he were working in the corporate world. Unfortunately, you can’t take up for your friends in this instance. The fags will go ape shirt and accuse the white man of using his power and privilege.
He didn’t say anything untoward. It was simply dumb to contact her.
I hope he wins 35 national championships at Auburn. And he’s saying the right things. But just like in a conversation that I had with a faggot on here, I believe he got the hooker for recruits. The fag seemed to think that I was slandering Hugh and the fag had never heard such.
Well, it was definitely a topic of discussion. No one addressed it in the media because the lawsuits would have ensued. But as I always say, lawyers are faggots. Fuck them.
Until proven innocent, I think Hugh got the whore for recruits. Fuck slander and any queer who thinks it is.
And the bad part is, so many people don’t care, even if it’s true.
We know he was handing out sacks of money and doing it well. And to that, I say, job well done.
But hookers? Sure, I would have loved to be the recruit. But I’m not on board with it for AU. Probably because I am a much better Christian than those who do not care. Regardless, I don’t care for him. I will still hope we win every game.
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To me, it's an act of hubris and stupidity
He's a dumbass, who I'm sure would say he was just trying to defend his friend. Shouldn't have done it.
And, Kaos, I 100% get where you're coming from.
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It's just that if he's who Auburn wants to be....
Has nothing to do with it. They hired the guy because they think he can win. They think he's the right guy to put them in contention for championships. Period! End of story. I'm sure they had to feel confident in his assurances that he is on the straight and narrow, but otherwise, all the other shit doesn't matter. Winning brings in more money. THAT'S what Auburn is about. Not the fucking creed. Not the feel good Caddy story. Not the fans having any say so or influence on decisions. It's about winning and money.
Will he win? Have no idea. But that's the only reason they hired him. You said earlier that Bruce Pearl's past is not a fair comparison. Bull shit. That guy was, and maybe is, a snake in the grass. Basically exiled from D-1 ball for years. Went Phillip Fulmer and got a rival program in NCAA shit for 3 years. Caused a player to sit out a year. He broke the code and was as hated as anybody in that profession at the time.
Trouble has followed him throughout his career, right up through Tennessee and into Auburn. But he got his shots because he wins. He lied to the NCAA about what would have been a minor slap on the wrist violation. But he got a show cause because that wasn't his first rodeo. Can't fix stupid, right? I guess you can, because when a major, major scandal hit his program less than 3 years into his tenure at Auburn, one involving the FBI, arrests, coaches being suspended and players sitting out for more than a year, he changed his tactics. He didn't lie. He just shut it down and refused to cooperate with anybody, including the University President. But he survived. Why? Because he wins.
And winning makes Auburn money.
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Has nothing to do with it. They hired the guy because they think he can win. They think he's the right guy to put them in contention for championships. Period! End of story. I'm sure they had to feel confident in his assurances that he is on the straight and narrow, but otherwise, all the other shit doesn't matter. Winning brings in more money. THAT'S what Auburn is about. Not the fucking creed. Not the feel good Caddy story. Not the fans having any say so or influence on decisions. It's about winning and money.
Will he win? Have no idea. But that's the only reason they hired him. You said earlier that Bruce Pearl's past is not a fair comparison. Bull shit. That guy was, and maybe is, a snake in the grass. Basically exiled from D-1 ball for years. Went Phillip Fulmer and got a rival program in NCAA shit for 3 years. Caused a player to sit out a year. He broke the code and was as hated as anybody in that profession at the time.
Trouble has followed him throughout his career, right up through Tennessee and into Auburn. But he got his shots because he wins. He lied to the NCAA about what would have been a minor slap on the wrist violation. But he got a show cause because that wasn't his first rodeo. Can't fix stupid, right? I guess you can, because when a major, major scandal hit his program less than 3 years into his tenure at Auburn, one involving the FBI, arrests, coaches being suspended and players sitting out for more than a year, he changed his tactics. He didn't lie. He just shut it down and refused to cooperate with anybody, including the University President. But he survived. Why? Because he wins.
And winning makes Auburn money.
It doesn’t matter to you. It doesn’t matter to them. It does to me.
I don’t want Carnell as head coach. It’s not about that either. I don’t think fans should decide or call plays. I do think we have the the right to express our opinions and reservations.
You don’t see a major difference in Freeze and Pearl. I do. They’re miles apart. Not on the same planet. The type of transgressions and their reactions to them aren’t in the same universe in my opinion. Running a red light isn’t the same as burning a house down. Turning another program in for cheating kind of has a nostalgic whiff of honor to it. Bryant turned Auburn in once a week. Cheating your entire ass off, paying players, lying to them, their parents and everybody else while challenging anyone to come at him - while simultaneously climbing up on the cross? Not the same.
We don’t have to agree. That’s cool. But I’m not giving you any more back rubs. Drawing the line there.
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Nick Saban didn't get an opportunity to purge our new coach of his past trangressions. A season's worth of rehabbing on the Tahd sideline would have given Freeze more redemptive value.
So in a rush to salvage recruiting and the future of the entire athletic program woke Cohen went against the court of public opinion to risk his future on what he believed best served Auburn...and his job.
I'm from a Christian upbringing and I too was repulsed by the behavior of Falwell, Bakker and the like.
We live in a new era where public opinion gets to decide when the punishment has met all requirements. Sometimes it can be harsh enough to destroy a person and their family, even the memory in the form of a symbol, statue or monument.
Guess I'm among the more sporting when it comes to being judgemental.
I say we let them up and see if the beating he or she took did any good.
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It doesn’t matter to you. It doesn’t matter to them. It does to me.
I don’t want Carnell as head coach. It’s not about that either. I don’t think fans should decide or call plays. I do think we have the the right to express our opinions and reservations.
You don’t see a major difference in Freeze and Pearl. I do. They’re miles apart. Not on the same planet. The type of transgressions and their reactions to them aren’t in the same universe in my opinion. Running a red light isn’t the same as burning a house down. Turning another program in for cheating kind of has a nostalgic whiff of honor to it. Bryant turned Auburn in once a week. Cheating your entire ass off, paying players, lying to them, their parents and everybody else while challenging anyone to come at him - while simultaneously climbing up on the cross? Not the same.
We don’t have to agree. That’s cool. But I’m not giving you any more back rubs. Drawing the line there.
He ain't going to tone down the Jesus talk, but knowing this is his last shot to remove the shit stains all over his coaching legacy, maybe he will tone down the hypocritical things you dislike. I appreciate your opinions & have since 2007/2008 when you were trolling PM on a AU Undercover and posting about not liking the Gene Chizik hire on this site for the 2009 season. Shitting on the coach is welcome, but I do hope you can come around to enjoying some Auburn Football in all its phases; through the ups, the downs, & under the leadership of hypocritical clowns.
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This has been a lengthy discussion, so I figured I'd put my uneducated thoughts on the matter on here to be picked apart.
1. Auburn needed a big name hire (big splash). Do I think that's what they did, no. In my mind I see that Cohen went out and hired a guy that has coached in the SEC, and done well, not great. I think he also looked at longevity. Hugh doesn't seem like the guy that's going to jump ship for a "better job" if he's doing good as a coach. He's trying to prove himself in the power 5 again.
2. What really grinds my gears is all the comments I've seen on social media about Auburn being racist because they didn't hire Prime or Caddy. While Prime would have been great for recruiting, what else has he done as a coach? Yes he's knocking it out of the park in the bush league, but can he do it in the power 5. Let's say he does get it done, we all know he's jumping ship for FSU when and if that job ever opens up. Caddy, he stepped in and did what needed to be done. He brought life back to the party. Being from the same area as him, the word I got from someone that knows his best friends cousin's sister's dentist, is that he didn't want the head job. That's hearsay of course, but maybe it's true. He now is in the best role for him, and the AU fanbase.
3. Freeze's past is what it is. He did some dumb stuff, but who among us hasn't?
4. HF was not my first choice, but he was a "safe" choice by Cohen. I mean it could have been worse, we could have used the AU coaching pipeline and hired the Arkansa State coach (Butch Jones, I think).
So, to sum it up, I will do what I've done since Chizick was named HC, see what he can do and hope for the best. At the end of the day, my life will still go on, and I will still be an AU fan.
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It doesn’t matter to you. It doesn’t matter to them. It does to me.
I don’t want Carnell as head coach. It’s not about that either. I don’t think fans should decide or call plays. I do think we have the the right to express our opinions and reservations.
You don’t see a major difference in Freeze and Pearl. I do. They’re miles apart. Not on the same planet. The type of transgressions and their reactions to them aren’t in the same universe in my opinion. Running a red light isn’t the same as burning a house down. Turning another program in for cheating kind of has a nostalgic whiff of honor to it. Bryant turned Auburn in once a week. Cheating your entire ass off, paying players, lying to them, their parents and everybody else while challenging anyone to come at him - while simultaneously climbing up on the cross? Not the same.
We don’t have to agree. That’s cool. But I’m not giving you any more back rubs. Drawing the line there.
Two things I will challenge you on. First, it does matter to me. Second, you owe me like, five back rubs, and I'll be damned if you're going to get out of them that easy. What's the 7:00 p.m. Hallmark Christmas movie tonight?
What I'm getting at is, at the end of the day, the one and only thing they cared about with Freeze, is whether or not he can win, and win big at Auburn. All the other shit is moot to them as long as they feel comfortable he won't be texting dick picks to co-eds. If he does, or if he actually is Gus Lite, and loses 4-6 games a season, he won't be our coach, and Cohen won't be AD. Not sure what Anthony Davis has to do with anything, but whatever.
I've become a lot more cynical about it all in recent years. I still love every chance I get to go to Auburn, and to the games. Love the tailgating, Tiger Walk, the bird etc. But, I was sitting in JHS at last year's Ole Miss game. They started flashing those colored, strobey lights thingies. Everyone had their cell phones lit. The Jaytron 6,000 was blasting away at 750,000 decibels. Part of me thought this was pretty neato-keen. Like a Mustang. The other part was saying we ain't in Kansas anymore, Toto.
90% of the tailgating has been pushed way off campus. More and more each year. Part of it, I'm sure is to keep people from fucking up the grounds. But, it's more about making more room for the hundreds of white, corporate tents. More money. The press box gets moved to the corner. Odd move? Not really, when you realize it was only to use the space for some kind of corporate lounge. More money. The parking lot at the entrance of the baseball field is turned into an admission only, food truck, beer area. More money. Ticket prices have shut the average Joe out, but who cares? There's plenty of folks standing in line, cash in hand, wanting to pay a fee just for the privilege of getting season tix.
The non-stop construction of bigger, better, more bad ass, both on campus and down town, have made the place barely recognizable. Takes money. Students and their parents are getting raped over the colds in tuition, books and rent. A 3 bedroom apartment or condo may be $1,500.00 a month....for EACH student living there.
I love Auburn. But, it's going to keep on changing. That won't stop. And so much of it centers around the foosballz program and winning. More winning, more money. That's why they hired Hugh Freeze.
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I guess what I'm saying is that since her sexual assault happened prior to Freeze arriving at LU, I don't have an issue with Auburn not interviewing her about the Freeze DMs. They are creepy, but I guess I'm not seeing how they demonstrate any intent to silence or coerce her (and I believe the lawsuit was settled at this point, too, but I could be wrong).
But what about his "POWER". Big ole mean Freeze used his POWER to threaten her with death to shut up or else. MY GOD MAN. CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!
We have so called men shrieking like damn women.
BTW. Read the DMs. They are innocent as hell. They may have been unnecessary, but in no way were they threatening.
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But what about his "POWER". Big ole mean Freeze used his POWER to threaten her with death to shut up or else. MY GOD MAN. CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!
We have so called men shrieking like damn women.
BTW. Read the DMs. They are innocent as hell. They may have been unnecessary, but in no way were they threatening.
A touch of dumb-assery infected the man to slide into her DM's as a public figure to stand up for a pal. You are absolutely correct though.. In the words of Brick Tamland, " I don't know what we're yelling about!"
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But what about his "POWER". Big ole mean Freeze used his POWER to threaten her with death to shut up or else. MY GOD MAN. CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!
We have so called men shrieking like damn women.
BTW. Read the DMs. They are innocent as hell. They may have been unnecessary, but in no way were they threatening.
Obviously you've never been threatened by a beaver filled with the Holy Spirit. Very daunting.
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Some of you are suggesting that Freeze ain't a bona fide, Bible thumping Christian. Damn it, the man eats at Chick-fil-A at least 3 times a week.
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He ain't going to tone down the Jesus talk, but knowing this is his last shot to remove the shit stains all over his coaching legacy, maybe he will tone down the hypocritical things you dislike. I appreciate your opinions & have since 2007/2008 when you were trolling PM on a AU Undercover and posting about not liking the Gene Chizik hire on this site for the 2009 season. Shitting on the coach is welcome, but I do hope you can come around to enjoying some Auburn Football in all its phases; through the ups, the downs, & under the leadership of hypocritical clowns.
I have since I first heard the voices of Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders coming over a battery-powered AM radio on my grandfather’s back porch. It was cemented for me when I attended a game with him and my dad. I think it was some shit team like Chattanooga, but it still hit me in my heart.
I was there for 17-16. I was there at the end of Shug’s career. I was there (sometimes physically) defending Barfield and keeping hope. I’d look at the schedule and count 9 or 10 wins and then be confused when we’d lose to somebody like Wake Forest. I walked the 10-year desert in a town that was 80% Bama fans, always looking for silver linings and reason to believe. I missed the end of Bryant’s 315 after a drink Bama fan taunted me and my then girlfriend in a progressively more profane and aggressive major and I turned out his lights. I cried like a baby the next season when Bo went over the top. I still can’t even think of “go back out there and thank our fans” without almost breaking down. I got kicked out of a bar in Mobile for celebrating too much when Tillman killed Bama with the reverse. I threw up when Van Tiffin hit the field goal. I’m grateful I had the opportunity to sit across from Dye after he retired and tell him to his face how much all of that meant to so many of us. I was there when Bowden came in and I believed. At the time I had an unusual level of access and watched his own ego bring him crashing down. I was on board when Tuberville was introduced and when Dye literally embraced him and the promise of a return to glory. I was in Atlanta when we won the SEC and New Orleans when we should have won it all. Yeah. I shit on the chizik hire based on his resume and that asshole Jacobs’ churchy rationale for hiring him. But he changed my mind one night against WVU. And then changed it back a few years later when all the things I thought he was originally turned out to be true. Same with Gus. Thought I was wrong until all my original concerns came to bear. My issue with both is I thought Auburn could do better. We’d fallen into that same brother-in-law hiring pattern that plagued Bama for years. Still those two guys gave me some of the best (and worst) days of my life. The harsin hire intrigued me. Until I figured out pretty quickly that it was a potential extinction level event. Again, disappointing that we couldn’t do better. And now this. We hire a guy I don’t believe any other P5 program would consider any longer than it took to throw his application in the trash.
I’ve ridden the roller coaster. I’ve cried in sadness and in happiness. I broke a wall in my apartment when Reggie slack beat emmitt and Florida. I sat in the dark for a couple of hours wondering what I’d done to so offend God when Tommy Hodson made Tiger Stadium quake. My walls are covered with signed photos and footballs from Jordan, Dye, Bowden, Tuberville, Chizik, Malzahn, Cam, Bo, Cadillac, Ronnie, Jason, Trotmsn, Sullivan, Beasley, Courtney, McClover, Lutz, Langner and more. One of the best gifts I’ve ever gotten is when my daughter got Bo to send me a video message for my birthday a few years back.
I’ve ridden it all. Ups. Downs. Sideways. This hire though? Just can’t. I’m embarrassed. Every other hire I we’ve ever made had pros and cons. I don’t see any pros. At all. In my opinion hes a lowlife charlatan. We’ve never hired a lowlife before. Don’t want any part of it. And l love Auburn and the football program.
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Obviously you've never been threatened by a beaver filled with the Holy Spirit. Very daunting.
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I have since I first heard the voices of Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders coming over a battery-powered AM radio on my grandfather’s back porch. It was cemented for me when I attended a game with him and my dad. I think it was some shit team like Chattanooga, but it still hit me in my heart.
I was there for 17-16. I was there at the end of Shug’s career. I was there (sometimes physically) defending Barfield and keeping hope. I’d look at the schedule and count 9 or 10 wins and then be confused when we’d lose to somebody like Wake Forest. I walked the 10-year desert in a town that was 80% Bama fans, always looking for silver linings and reason to believe. I missed the end of Bryant’s 315 after a drink Bama fan taunted me and my then girlfriend in a progressively more profane and aggressive major and I turned out his lights. I cried like a baby the next season when Bo went over the top. I still can’t even think of “go back out there and thank our fans” without almost breaking down. I got kicked out of a bar in Mobile for celebrating too much when Tillman killed Bama with the reverse. I threw up when Van Tiffin hit the field goal. I’m grateful I had the opportunity to sit across from Dye after he retired and tell him to his face how much all of that meant to so many of us. I was there when Bowden came in and I believed. At the time I had an unusual level of access and watched his own ego bring him crashing down. I was on board when Tuberville was introduced and when Dye literally embraced him and the promise of a return to glory. I was in Atlanta when we won the SEC and New Orleans when we should have won it all. Yeah. I shit on the chizik hire based on his resume and that asshole Jacobs’ churchy rationale for hiring him. But he changed my mind one night against WVU. And then changed it back a few years later when all the things I thought he was originally turned out to be true. Same with Gus. Thought I was wrong until all my original concerns came to bear. My issue with both is I thought Auburn could do better. We’d fallen into that same brother-in-law hiring pattern that plagued Bama for years. Still those two guys gave me some of the best (and worst) days of my life. The harsin hire intrigued me. Until I figured out pretty quickly that it was a potential extinction level event. Again, disappointing that we couldn’t do better. And now this. We hire a guy I don’t believe any other P5 program would consider any longer than it took to throw his application in the trash.
I’ve ridden the roller coaster. I’ve cried in sadness and in happiness. I broke a wall in my apartment when Reggie slack beat emmitt and Florida. I sat in the dark for a couple of hours wondering what I’d done to so offend God when Tommy Hodson made Tiger Stadium quake. My walls are covered with signed photos and footballs from Jordan, Dye, Bowden, Tuberville, Chizik, Malzahn, Cam, Bo, Cadillac, Ronnie, Jason, Trotmsn, Sullivan, Beasley, Courtney, McClover, Lutz, Langner and more. One of the best gifts I’ve ever gotten is when my daughter got Bo to send me a video message for my birthday a few years back.
I’ve ridden it all. Ups. Downs. Sideways. This hire though? Just can’t. I’m embarrassed. Every other hire I we’ve ever made had pros and cons. I don’t see any pros. At all. In my opinion hes a lowlife charlatan. We’ve never hired a lowlife before. Don’t want any part of it. And l love Auburn and the football program.
^^My man!
I will only add, fuck Georgia.
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A touch of dumb-assery infected the man to slide into her DM's as a public figure to stand up for a pal. You are absolutely correct though.. In the words of Brick Tamland, " I don't know what we're yelling about!"
I don’t know this guy but he makes a lot of sense. Long ago, Token would have accused him of being me.
Token never was the brightest bulb in the pack. Not, the sharpest tool in the shed. But he definitely was a tool.
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I don’t know this guy but he makes a lot of sense. Long ago, Token would have accused him of being me.
Token never was the brightest bulb in the pack. Not, the sharpest tool in the shed. But he definitely was a tool.
Tool is a good band, and is my preferred pronoun on LinkedIn.
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Two things I will challenge you on. First, it does matter to me. Second, you owe me like, five back rubs, and I'll be damned if you're going to get out of them that easy. What's the 7:00 p.m. Hallmark Christmas movie tonight?
It’s called Holly Jolly Harsin.
There’s this hot girl named Holly. She’s on her way to see her workaholic boyfriend in Seattle on Christmas Eve. But she gets stranded in a snowstorm in Southern Utah. Her BMW convertible’s GPS gets her turned around and she drives into a ditch. She’s spotted by Mr Harsin who rescues her. Her car is going to need repairs so she’s stuck there for at least two days. She meets his wife, her sister and his daughter. There’s a fireplace. The snow is falling softly down. Wine appears. There’s baby oil. A butt plug. And before you know it the four are writhing around naked in the floor.
Wait. Sorry. I was watching the wrong channel.
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I think it’s a fantastic hire although I really hoped it would be Caddy. Win win situation in my opinion.
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I think it’s a fantastic hire although I really hoped it would be Caddy. Win win situation in my opinion.
We all love Cadillac with the sliding in the grass, the offerings to the heavens along with the many charade-like physical characteristics he exudes.
As a fan we always knew that our team wasn't thinking by his motions toward his head or by his various facial expressions on that colossal screen.
Bamer fans only get treated to a rare Saban eruption when the secondary gets burned for two straight touchdown passes in a row. But by that we can only surmise that the DC will be looking for a job by season's end and little more.
Think I might take some heat for my comment?
'He's crackin' on a legend.
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Freeze brings his D-line coach with him from Liberty. Jeremy Garrett. He coached D-line with the Cleveland Browns for 2 years, and Liberty was 3rd nationally in sacks this season.
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Freeze brings his D-line coach with him from Liberty. Jeremy Garrett. He coached D-line with the Cleveland Browns for 2 years, and Liberty was 3rd nationally in sacks this season.
Schmedding and Brumbaugh gone.
Loved Jimmy at Auburn as run stopper. No idea what kind or corch he was.
Friend, Hilliard and Hartline gone from the offensive side. Can't fault Hartline. He wasn't exactly blessed with much to work with in the passing department.
Hilliard is known as a great recruiter and in that same vein I hope we have our sights set on Dell McGee for an offensive assignment.
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Stacey Searels as offensive line coach would be a great get but he and Smart are so established and loaded with talent I hardly see him returning to Auburn.
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Stacey Searels as offensive line coach would be a great get but he and Smart are so established and loaded with talent I hardly see him returning to Auburn.
Werd on my skreets is that Hugh is such a great recruiter that he's a bringin' Matt Luke out of retirement to coarch the OL. Hopefully everybody can overlook the axe murdering and all the insider trading stuff and give Mr. Freeze a chance.
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Werd on my skreets is that Hugh is such a great recruiter that he's a bringin' Matt Luke out of retirement to coarch the OL. Hopefully everybody can overlook the axe murdering and all the insider trading stuff and give Mr. Freeze a chance.
Don't forget the rape. He likes rape.
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Don't forget the rape. He likes rape.
At least he isn't an arsonist.
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Hate losing Hilliard.
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Don't forget the rape. He likes rape.
Kinkyyyy....sign here.
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Hate losing Hilliard.
No doubt, from both a recruiting and corching standpoint.
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Hate losing Hilliard.
meh. solid pedigree. good contacts but the reality Auburn was his first college gig…first year of recruiting.
can’t fault Hilliard necessarily but didn’t we have a few WR’s hit the portal?
*edit: just saw Hopkins decomitts. he agrees with counsel.
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meh. solid pedigree. good contacts but the reality Auburn was his first college gig…first year of recruiting.
can’t fault Hilliard necessarily but didn’t we have a few WR’s hit the portal?
The Hopkins kid just backed out and Sorey might be next. Bothe mentioned Hilliard by name in their little recruiting capsules.
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meh. solid pedigree. good contacts but the reality Auburn was his first college gig…first year of recruiting.
can’t fault Hilliard necessarily but didn’t we have a few WR’s hit the portal?
I know we lost Kobe Hudson, but I think Havrinz kicked him to the curb. You may be right about some others, but I'm old and can't recall.
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Rodney Daniel's might have some eligibility left. I think he's only 49.
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Rodney Daniel's might have some eligibility left. I think he's only 49.
Do you mean Ronney Daniels? He's about 46.
And poof, out of nowhere, he has what seemed like 42 TD receptions against uga.
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Do you mean Ronney Daniels? He's about 46.
And poof, out of nowhere, he has what seemed like 42 TD receptions against uga.
Dude had stick'em hands. I hear the sticky icky can do that for you.
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Do you mean Ronney Daniels? He's about 46.
And poof, out of nowhere, he has what seemed like 42 TD receptions against uga.
Yes that is he.
Don't know if he could run a tight route but that old man would flash open in the center of the field out of nowhere. He should have had waaay more receptions.
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Dude had stick'em hands. I hear the sticky icky can do that for you.
Yeah I don't recall him ever dropping a pass.
Ball just adhered to his hands.
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The Hopkins kid just backed out and Sorey might be next. Bothe mentioned Hilliard by name in their little recruiting capsules.
At least we have the return of the King. Maybe TDaws will back out of the portal as well.
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GH just put the 411 on me about Wesley McGriff returning as DB Corch. Plus, current Ole Miss....now former Ole Miss O-line Corch, Jake Thornton. accepted the same job at Orburn.
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GH just put the 411 on me about Wesley McGriff returning as DB Corch. Plus, current Ole Miss....now former Ole Miss O-line Corch, Jake Thornton. accepted the same job at Orburn.
Not sure if Crime Dawg is just working with Corners and Zac is taking safeties, or how the duties are being distributed in that scenario. I keep seeing Grant Heard being mentioned as our WR coach now, which would be pretty legit when looking at players that he coached historically, but nothing to substantiate.
I guess we are going to roll on into the season without hiring OC (in name only) or a DC. Been too long already for my impatient ass.
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Not sure if Crime Dawg is just working with Corners and Zac is taking safeties, or how the duties are being distributed in that scenario. I keep seeing Grant Heard being mentioned as our WR coach now, which would be pretty legit when looking at players that he coached historically, but nothing to substantiate.
I guess we are going to roll on into the season without hiring OC (in name only) or a DC. Been too long already for my impatient ass.
Yes. It’s always a good strategy for experienced power 5 coaches to work off random message board timelines when making important hires.
I keed I keed but you’d be surprised.
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Yes. It’s always a good strategy for experienced power 5 coaches to work off random message board timelines when making important hires.
I keed I keed but you’d be surprised.
Some fans are upset he’s not holding a president conference every time a coach is hired. Why not stop the recruiting and waste time on an update just for that fan? He deserves to know, right?