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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: wesfau2 on October 01, 2017, 09:08:31 PM
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The defense is stellar. Championship quality.
The offense appears to be hitting its stride, but our competition has been questionable. It's difficult to allocate credit for the improvement between coaching and execution because of the yet undefined quality of the Mississippi State squad.
I was curious about the statistical rankings of the defenses we've faced. They rank thusly:
Clemson - #18
Ga So - #20
Miss St - #46
Mizzou - #75
What to make of that? Fuck if I know.
Will Ole Miss provide us a barometer? It's likely that bama beat the fight out of the Rebels on Saturday. The trip to Baton Rouge looks like we'll be celebrating our first win there in forever while Yaw Yaw stalks the sidelines. How about the following week in Fayetteville? The hogs appear to be on the verge of their own implosion.
Is it possible that until we travel to College Station (or perhaps the UGA game if Sumlin pulls his usual mid-late season collapse) we won't really know how good this team is?
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It is very possible that we hit Amen Corner with only 1 loss. Whether that's a barometer of our improvement or an indication that the conference is full of meh this season, who knows. If nothing else, should this run actually occur, we should be a very confident club when Georgia (fuck them) comes to town.
My torch has been extinguished for the moment and the pitchfork is propped up against the wall.
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the conference is full of meh this season
I think this is much more true than it has been since the late 90s.
If nothing else, should this run actually occur, we should be a very confident club when Georgia (fuck them) comes to town.
I also think this is true. They can fake it til they make it.
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The defense is stellar. Championship quality.
The offense appears to be hitting its stride, but our competition has been questionable. It's difficult to allocate credit for the improvement between coaching and execution because of the yet undefined quality of the Mississippi State squad.
I was curious about the statistical rankings of the defenses we've faced. They rank thusly:
Clemson - #18
Ga So - #20
Miss St - #46
Mizzou - #75
What to make of that? Fuck if I know.
Will Ole Miss provide us a barometer? It's likely that bama beat the fight out of the Rebels on Saturday. The trip to Baton Rouge looks like we'll be celebrating our first win there in forever while Yaw Yaw stalks the sidelines. How about the following week in Fayetteville? The hogs appear to be on the verge of their own implosion.
Is it possible that until we travel to College Station (or perhaps the UGA game if Sumlin pulls his usual mid-late season collapse) we won't really know how good this team is?
I heard bramlett or one of the others post game saying the msu pass d was ranked 9th. If true that makes what Stove, Hastings and Stidham did look even better.
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I heard bramlett or one of the others post game saying the msu pass d was ranked 9th. If true that makes what Stove, Hastings and Stidham did look even better.
They're currently 31st. Not sure if they'd drop that precipitously after one game, but I suppose it's possible.
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They're currently 31st. Not sure if they'd drop that precipitously after one game, but I suppose it's possible.
So sounds like their pass d is indeed their strength and was at least top 25 before the game. I'm ok with that.
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I said several times before this season that this receiving corp would be one of the best in this conference, which means the nation. We are. My concerns moving forward are:
1.) I don't trust Gus. He WILL interfere. We WILL be fucked.
2.) Running back. I can't recall a more offensively misuse of a unit than this. Holy Hell, how bad can you mismanage a group of running backs? Kam is hurt. But you run him 32 times against an FCS team. Kam Martin comes in and saves the day after Carry On gets hurt and the kid hasn't see the field since. Carry On can't run 25 yards without pulling up lame and you keep him in there. Sweet Haysus, how fucking dumb is this staff?
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I said several times before this season that this receiving corp would be one of the best in this conference, which means the nation. We are. My concerns moving forward are:
1.) I don't trust Gus. He WILL interfere. We WILL be fucked.
2.) Running back. I can't recall a more offensively misuse of a unit than this. Holy Hell, how bad can you mismanage a group of running backs? Kam is hurt. But you run him 32 times against an FCS team. Kam Martin comes in and saves the day after Carry On gets hurt and the kid hasn't see the field since. Carry On can't run 25 yards without pulling up lame and you keep him in there. Sweet Haysus, how fucking dumb is this staff?
Item #2 is a pattern with Malzahn. Always has been. He wants to ride one into the ground regardless of what he has on the bench.
In 2013, Tre Mason carried the ball 317 times. Payne? 91. Grant? 66.
In 2014 Payne carried 307 times. Grant? 60.
In 2015 Barber carried 238 times. Robinson 117 (off the team). Thomas 43 (off the team)
In 2016 it was more balanced Pettway 209 and Johnson 182. But that's deceiving. Johnson ran 23 times against Clemson. Pettway never saw the field. Pettway ran 39 times against MSU. 25 even though injured against Vandy.
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They're currently 31st. Not sure if they'd drop that precipitously after one game, but I suppose it's possible.
I do not think rain was a factor.
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I said several times before this season that this receiving corp would be one of the best in this conference, which means the nation. We are. My concerns moving forward are:
1.) I don't trust Gus. He WILL interfere. We WILL be fucked.
2.) Running back. I can't recall a more offensively misuse of a unit than this. Holy Hell, how bad can you mismanage a group of running backs? Kam is hurt. But you run him 32 times against an FCS team. Kam Martin comes in and saves the day after Carry On gets hurt and the kid hasn't see the field since. Carry On can't run 25 yards without pulling up lame and you keep him in there. Sweet Haysus, how fucking dumb is this staff?
Those are my concerns as well.
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Is it possible that until we travel to College Station (or perhaps the UGA game if Sumlin pulls his usual mid-late season collapse) we won't really know how good this team is?
I'd say it's almost probable at this point...unless Gus does Gus again before that point.
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I'd say it's almost probable at this point...unless Gus does Gus again before that point.
So, hypothetically:
We roll into the UGA game at 8-1. Gus puckers and interferes. We drop UGA and Bama to finish the regular season at 9-3 and 3rd in the SEC (2nd in the West). Losses to Clemson, Bama and UGA. Two of those are probably playoff locks and UGA has a chance to run the table to Atlanta.
In a vacuum, the continued losing to our biggest rivals is unacceptable. At what point, though, are (presuming a bowl win) 10-win seasons just not enough? Do we go the way of Ole Miss and Nebraska, ousting 10-win coaches only to dwell in mediocre suckitude?
With the expanded regular and post-seasons are 10-win seasons just not as valuable as they once were? Is 10-2 the new 8-4?
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Those are my concerns as well.
As soon as we were up 28-10 sat both pettway and kj should have been benched for the night. Same with this weekend if it happens against ole miss. We've got to get these guys healthy down the stretch or we are screwed clme amen corner. I would even venture to start kam Martin come sat and only resort to the main two if absolutely needed.
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So, hypothetically:
We roll into the UGA game at 8-1. Gus puckers and interferes. We drop UGA and Bama to finish the regular season at 9-3 and 3rd in the SEC (2nd in the West). Losses to Clemson, Bama and UGA. Two of those are probably playoff locks and UGA has a chance to run the table to Atlanta.
In a vacuum, the continued losing to our biggest rivals is unacceptable. At what point, though, are (presuming a bowl win) 10-win seasons just not enough? Do we go the way of Ole Miss and Nebraska, ousting 10-win coaches only to dwell in mediocre suckitude?
With the expanded regular and post-seasons are 10-win seasons just not as valuable as they once were? Is 10-2 the new 8-4?
I say out on his keester. I said before the season that 2 things have to happen to keep his job. IMO, not Jay's. Those two things are a 10 win minimum and beating either Georgia or Alabama. If both aren't accomplished, I want him gone.
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I say out on his keester. I said before the season that 2 things have to happen to keep his job. IMO, not Jay's. Those two things are a 10 win minimum and beating either Georgia or Alabama. If both aren't accomplished, I want him gone.
I get where you're coming from, but disagree.
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I get where you're coming from, but disagree.
We should keep Gus because he can put talent the Mississippi schools? That doesn't make much sense. Now, if we get to Georgia and Alabama and the offense has a pulse in those games, it will be hard to say Fire Gus with the shape the SEC is in right now. Gus's main key now is how much better can the offense get before Amen Corner. This is what will determine his career imo.
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It's a little like that relationship thing right now.
You're with somebody and you're mostly content. But every once in a while she'll pull a bat-shit burger out of nowhere. You come home, she throws shit at you, takes your phone and smashes it on the ground in tears because she saw you texting about Bertha yesterday and she's tried to be calm, but WHO THE FUCK IS BERTHA! Bertha is your driver. Your golf club.
So that blows over. Everything's cool.
You come in another day and she's dressed up like Winnie The Pooh. Wants you to wear a Tigger outfit and fuck out in the back yard because it sounds like furry fun. Then you notice Winnie is wearing a purple strap on. And she's invited your next door neighbor "Todd" to film the whole thing because that adds to the thrill of it.
Another time you come home and she's drained the bank account buying cosmetics. Shaved her eyebrows and drew them back on with an eyebrow pencil. Shaved half her head but hasn't shaved her underarms.
At some point, you have to decide how much crazy you can take. Is the relationship good enough the rest of the time that you can overlook the days of major crazy? Do you like wearing the Tigger outfit while Todd plays with his tools and watches?
Beyond that, are you willing to walk before you have a safe place to land? I'm usually not. I'll take the crazy and find something else before I leave it behind.
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I get where you're coming from, but disagree.
8 straight losses to UGA and Bama won't cut it. Went to some AU meet and greet with Tuberville as the main speaker years ago. He said winning is great, but make no mistake about it, if you don't beat your biggest rivals at Auburn, you won't be here long. For $5 Large a year, we should expect/demand better and not worry about public perception or going the way of Ole Miss or Nebraska. Georgia finally tired of a much better coach than Gus and one year later, they're one of the best teams in the country.
BTW, At Ole Miss, David Cutcliffe was 8-4, 7-5, 7-4. 7-6, 10-3 and was fired after the following season when he was 4-7. The 10-3 record was with a Heisman finalist named Eli Manning.
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So, hypothetically:
We roll into the UGA game at 8-1. Gus puckers and interferes. We drop UGA and Bama to finish the regular season at 9-3 and 3rd in the SEC (2nd in the West). Losses to Clemson, Bama and UGA. Two of those are probably playoff locks and UGA has a chance to run the table to Atlanta.
In a vacuum, the continued losing to our biggest rivals is unacceptable. At what point, though, are (presuming a bowl win) 10-win seasons just not enough? Do we go the way of Ole Miss and Nebraska, ousting 10-win coaches only to dwell in mediocre suckitude?
With the expanded regular and post-seasons are 10-win seasons just not as valuable as they once were? Is 10-2 the new 8-4?
If we lose those two at the end due to Gus' bungling ways, then I wholeheartedly agree that the new AD should be looking for a new coach. If we play well and somehow still lose two close games, all bets are off. My gut tells me we will have either a QB or a RB hurt from overuse (or possibly both again) by the time amen corner rolls around and Chandler Cox will be running the Bubbacat while we get punked again by our two biggest rivals
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I say out on his keester. I said before the season that 2 things have to happen to keep his job. IMO, not Jay's. Those two things are a 10 win minimum and beating either Georgia or Alabama. If both aren't accomplished, I want him gone.
When you said this earlier, I paid no attention. Like most of us do with the drivel you post.
But post Clemson, I tend to agree. My difference would be looking good in a loss. It would be hard to cut ties after close losses to those 2 schools this year. A loss like Clemson? You bet. We were helpless on O.
But if we keep making steps, I truly believe we will win 1 of the 2. And possibly both.
The RB situation is concerning but I doubt Gus is overriding team docs and the players. Hammy is just nagging. Will probably be with kj the remainder of season, regardless.
And our o line woes are def improving. Even as little as you know about football, you had to see this, right?
Stidham is getting rust off. We are looking more 2013ish than 2012. Except, we play defense. And well.
Yeah, I had jumped off too but he's doing lots of stuff right now. We can nit pick but it's hard for me to find too many faults in MSU game.
Gus isn't Saban. You're never going to be the Alabama Hammer, no matter how hard you try.
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When you said this earlier, I paid no attention. Like most of us do with the drivel you post.
But post Clemson, I tend to agree. My difference would be looking good in a loss. It would be hard to cut ties after close losses to those 2 schools this year. A loss like Clemson? You bet. We were helpless on O.
But if we keep making steps, I truly believe we will win 1 of the 2. And possibly both.
The RB situation is concerning but I doubt Gus is overriding team docs and the players. Hammy is just nagging. Will probably be with kj the remainder of season, regardless.
And our o line woes are def improving. Even as little as you know about football, you had to see this, right?
Stidham is getting rust off. We are looking more 2013ish than 2012. Except, we play defense. And well.
Yeah, I had jumped off too but he's doing lots of stuff right now. We can nit pick but it's hard for me to find too many faults in MSU game.
Gus isn't Saban. You're never going to be the Alabama Hammer, no matter how hard you try.
Two bitch cuttings in that post. But, I'll save those for later. The question is how good did we feel about things after the Arky game last year? Gus delivered one of the most shittastic coaching performances of the century against Clemson earlier, but they were suddenly rolling people. Very similar thing happening now. I love what this team is doing and I want them to win out and we have one big Auburn orgy afterward. I call the Chi O house. But I have little faith in either happening, especially the winning out part.
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I would say that how those losses were to be played against UGA and bama would depend on whether Gus would retain his job.
Would it be the Gus we typically see in the big games, bumbling, not making adjustments, ineptitude? Driving us to go 9-3 IMO he should be gonzo....would he be... I doubt it.
or would it be something else? Something we've never seen before. Maybe it's something really cool that I don't even know about. You know, and uh, and I started feeling... what? What, I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, were we not?
I have yet to see Gus take that leap...I'm not holding my breath.
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I said several times before this season that this receiving corp would be one of the best in this conference, which means the nation. We are. My concerns moving forward are:
1.) I don't trust Gus. He WILL interfere. We WILL be fucked.
2.) Running back. I can't recall a more offensively misuse of a unit than this. Holy Hell, how bad can you mismanage a group of running backs? Kam is hurt. But you run him 32 times against an FCS team. Kam Martin comes in and saves the day after Carry On gets hurt and the kid hasn't see the field since. Carry On can't run 25 yards without pulling up lame and you keep him in there. Sweet Haysus, how fucking dumb is this staff?
I fully expect Chip to get us to the UGA game with one loss, I then fully expect Gus to take over and fuck it up six ways of Sunday.
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I would say that how those losses were to be played against UGA and bama would depend on whether Gus would retain his job.
Would it be the Gus we typically see in the big games, bumbling, not making adjustments, ineptitude? Driving us to go 9-3 IMO he should be gonzo....would he be... I doubt it.
or would it be something else? Something we've never seen before. Maybe it's something really cool that I don't even know about. You know, and uh, and I started feeling... what? What, I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, were we not?
I have yet to see Gus take that leap...I'm not holding my breath.
What he said. Makes total sense.
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What he said. Makes total sense.
Look I said the same damn thing with bigger words just a few posts up and had no one say anything nice or in agreement.
I have other places I can post and plenty of other things to do, FYI.
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Look I said the same damn thing with bigger words just a few posts up and had no one say anything nice or in agreement.
I have other places I can post and plenty of other things to do, FYI.
We need to get rid of your pal Gussie.
How's that busy boy?
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Just for perspective I dug into some UT and LSU boards.
They sound just like us.
Moron AD.
Coach O’s gumbo fingerprints are all over the offense. He’s not letting Canada call games.
What’s wrong with Guice? Why keep handing the ball to Williams?
Josh Dobbs was so good he masked Butch’s ineptitude
We are sick of coach speak from Butch
Here’s what’s happened in my opinion. Alabama has fucking ruined this league. We are in a nuclear arms race but it’s one we can’t win. Everybody is trying to keep up. Ole Miss decided to cheat to do it. We hired a guy because he runs a newfangled offense that looked like it could be sabans kryptonite. UT rolled the dice with the small school guy hoping to replicate Meyer at UF. LSU elevated a guy they thought could connect with their fans and players.
None of that is going to work consistently.
There was a time the SEC was competitive. Sorta. Us, LSU, UGA, UA, UF most likely to make the SEC CG. Occasionally the upstart Arkansas or MSU or Missouri. A nine or ten win season would do it. And everybody was relatively happy. Now? It’s bama’s to lose from the opening game. You can’t lose a game or two. It’s all magnified. It ruins the game. I wish that program would disappear.
In the old SEC? I’d be happy with eight or nine a year and the hope there was a magical year around the corner. That’s not the now. I hate it.
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Just for perspective I dug into some UT and LSU boards.
They sound just like us.
Moron AD.
Coach O’s gumbo fingerprints are all over the offense. He’s not letting Canada call games.
What’s wrong with Guice? Why keep handing the ball to Williams?
Josh Dobbs was so good he masked Butch’s ineptitude
We are sick of coach speak from Butch
Here’s what’s happened in my opinion. Alabama has fucking ruined this league. We are in a nuclear arms race but it’s one we can’t win. Everybody is trying to keep up. Ole Miss decided to cheat to do it. We hired a guy because he runs a newfangled offense that looked like it could be sabans kryptonite. UT rolled the dice with the small school guy hoping to replicate Meyer at UF. LSU elevated a guy they thought could connect with their fans and players.
None of that is going to work consistently.
There was a time the SEC was competitive. Sorta. Us, LSU, UGA, UA, UF most likely to make the SEC CG. Occasionally the upstart Arkansas or MSU or Missouri. A nine or ten win season would do it. And everybody was relatively happy. Now? It’s bama’s to lose from the opening game. You can’t lose a game or two. It’s all magnified. It ruins the game. I wish that program would disappear.
In the old SEC? I’d be happy with eight or nine a year and the hope there was a magical year around the corner. That’s not the now. I hate it.
Those last couple of paragraphs? Nailed it.
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New plan for LSU.
You talked about needing possibly two JC offensive linemen, two JC defensive linemen in that '18 recruiting class. You already have 19 commits. How do you kind of work those numbers to make sure you still get what you need to get?
COACH ORGERON: Hope and pray. Thank you, guys.
Wow. I didn't believe this was an actual quote. I found and watched his (clueless) press conference today. Yes. This is what he said.
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New plan for LSU.
Wow. I didn't believe this was an actual quote. I found and watched his (clueless) press conference today. Yes. This is what he said.
Made Gus go up a notch in one quote.
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Made Gus go up a notch in one quote.
Oh believe me we do have a lot to be thankful for. Gus is not Jones or Orgeron, or Bilema bad and we aren't Ole Miss or MSU fans soo....small victories.
Like I have said things can always be worse.
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Oh believe me we do have a lot to be thankful for. Gus is not Jones or Orgeron, or Bilema bad and we aren't Ole Miss or MSU fans soo....small victories.
Like I have said things can always be worse.
well we do have Dallas.
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well we do have Dallas.
He did not say that things could be worst.
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He did not say that things could be worst.
There if have worsed
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Just for perspective I dug into some UT and LSU boards.
They sound just like us.
Moron AD.
Coach O’s gumbo fingerprints are all over the offense. He’s not letting Canada call games.
What’s wrong with Guice? Why keep handing the ball to Williams?
Josh Dobbs was so good he masked Butch’s ineptitude
We are sick of coach speak from Butch
Here’s what’s happened in my opinion. Alabama has fucking ruined this league. We are in a nuclear arms race but it’s one we can’t win. Everybody is trying to keep up. Ole Miss decided to cheat to do it. We hired a guy because he runs a newfangled offense that looked like it could be sabans kryptonite. UT rolled the dice with the small school guy hoping to replicate Meyer at UF. LSU elevated a guy they thought could connect with their fans and players.
None of that is going to work consistently.
There was a time the SEC was competitive. Sorta. Us, LSU, UGA, UA, UF most likely to make the SEC CG. Occasionally the upstart Arkansas or MSU or Missouri. A nine or ten win season would do it. And everybody was relatively happy. Now? It’s bama’s to lose from the opening game. You can’t lose a game or two. It’s all magnified. It ruins the game. I wish that program would disappear.
In the old SEC? I’d be happy with eight or nine a year and the hope there was a magical year around the corner. That’s not the now. I hate it.
I had hopes of replacing Malzahn with a guy that could solidify us with Saban's retirement in mind. But Gus is still learning on the job as witnessed by his decision to kick a field goal on that first drive against the Mullens. Only a chorus of boos changed his mind.
Time out to rethink.
Now if it was against Alabama and we get stoned at the line but can still keep it within a score then a FG is a no brainer, fuck the boos. And keep in mind that State got robbed on that scoop and score early on, something that would not have happened against Saban.
We generally know within our first two possessions how Malzahn is going to coach any given game. He shows his hand. But Chip seems to have a feel for the right time to pass, something that was more out of desperation with Lashlee because we would be predictable enough to get behind the chains with 3rd and seven ie.
I'm hoping that Chip can keep it on the current pace to deter some of Malzahn's need to meddle.
But if we fail on back to back offensive series?
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I had hopes of replacing Malzahn with a guy that could solidify us with Saban's retirement in mind. But Gus is still learning on the job as witnessed by his decision to kick a field goal on that first drive against the Mullens. Only a chorus of boos changed his mind.
Time out to rethink.
Now if it was against Alabama and we get stoned at the line but can still keep it within a score then a FG is a no brainer, fudge the boos. And keep in mind that State got robbed on that scoop and score early on, something that would not have happened against Saban.
We generally know within our first two possessions how Malzahn is going to coach any given game. He shows his hand. But Chip seems to have a feel for the right time to pass, something that was more out of desperation with Lashlee because we would be predictable enough to get behind the chains with 3rd and seven ie.
I'm hoping that Chip can keep it on the current pace to deter some of Malzahn's need to meddle.
But if we fail on back to back offensive series?
American football intrigue me. Why do you try to coach? I suspect you know not as much as Prowler.
Prowler is legend. In his own mind.
But you? Jay Jacobs make you girlfriend.
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American football intrigue me. Why do you try to coach? I suspect you know not as much as Prowler.
Prowler is legend. In his own mind.
But you? Jay Jacobs make you girlfriend.
It must be rough being the only Russian dickhead living in the wiregrass.
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When you said this earlier, I paid no attention. Like most of us do with the drivel you post.
But post Clemson, I tend to agree. My difference would be looking good in a loss. It would be hard to cut ties after close losses to those 2 schools this year. A loss like Clemson? You bet. We were helpless on O.
But if we keep making steps, I truly believe we will win 1 of the 2. And possibly both.
The RB situation is concerning but I doubt Gus is overriding team docs and the players. Hammy is just nagging. Will probably be with kj the remainder of season, regardless.
And our o line woes are def improving. Even as little as you know about football, you had to see this, right?
Stidham is getting rust off. We are looking more 2013ish than 2012. Except, we play defense. And well.
Yeah, I had jumped off too but he's doing lots of stuff right now. We can nit pick but it's hard for me to find too many faults in MSU game.
Gus isn't Saban. You're never going to be the Alabama Hammer, no matter how hard you try.
Gus is more like Dabo, started roughly at the same time, recruits very well and struggled a bit to get the right DC only Dabo doesn't fancy himself as an offensive mastermind. He manages as he should.
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Gus is more like Dabo, started roughly at the same time, recruits very well and struggled a bit to get the right DC only Dabo doesn't fancy himself as an offensive mastermind. He manages as he should.
Good to have you back on the Gus bus jmar.
You were missed, I'm sure. By someone. Somewhere.
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Is Gus finally letting it be known that he's turned over the offense for reals? On Devan Barrett:
"He's really came on," Auburn coach Gus Malzahn said. "They've given him short roles, and I'm sure that will be added to because he's done a very good job."
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2017/10/injuries_to_auburns_backfield.html#incart_river_index
He seems to be speaking of the offensive coaching staff as though he's not a part of the day-to-day operations. Dare I dream that the production in the past two weeks is due to CL getting to run the offense free of Gus's heavy-handed input?
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Is Gus finally letting it be known that he's turned over the offense for reals? On Devan Barrett:
"He's really came on," Auburn coach Gus Malzahn said. "They've given him short roles, and I'm sure that will be added to because he's done a very good job."
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2017/10/injuries_to_auburns_backfield.html#incart_river_index
He seems to be speaking of the offensive coaching staff as though he's not a part of the day-to-day operations. Dare I dream that the production in the past two weeks is due to CL getting to run the offense free of Gus's heavy-handed input?
The 75 runs straight up the middle say no. The repetitive abuse of injured backs without a break says nada.
I sincerely hope that's the case and I've said repeatedly that the only way we're successful is if Gus stays out of it. My armchair QB observation is that Lindsey has a ton more input, but Gus is never going to let it go completely. How could Kam Martin have 146 yards in one half and essentially never touch the ball again when the 2 lead backs are clearly injured? When Carry On pulled up on that first drive, he should have never seen the field again. Kam Martin is a better back than a hurt Carry On. Malik Miller is a better back than a Kam Pettway with plantar fasciitis. Devan Barrett may be a better back than Martin or Miller.
I'm with ya' Wes. I hope it becomes Lindsey's offense completely. But even he isn't dumb enough to use backs in this manner.
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The 75 runs straight up the middle say no. The repetitive abuse of injured backs without a break says nada.
I sincerely hope that's the case and I've said repeatedly that the only way we're successful is if Gus stays out of it. My armchair QB observation is that Lindsey has a ton more input, but Gus is never going to let it go completely. How could Kam Martin have 146 yards in one half and essentially never touch the ball again when the 2 lead backs are clearly injured? When Carry On pulled up on that first drive, he should have never seen the field again. Kam Martin is a better back than a hurt Carry On. Malik Miller is a better back than a Kam Pettway with plantar fasciitis. Devan Barrett may be a better back than Martin or Miller.
I'm with ya' Wes. I hope it becomes Lindsey's offense completely. But even he isn't dumb enough to use backs in this manner.
I'm not suggesting that we're watching some linear progression.
I think the Lindsey move to the booth was a statement. And our offense seems to have had some spark since then.
I read that quote and it sounds like Gus is finally letting the O and D coordinators (or maybe just the O) do their thing while weighing in on crucial 3rd/4th downs and clock situations.
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The 75 runs straight up the middle say no. The repetitive abuse of injured backs without a break says nada.
I sincerely hope that's the case and I've said repeatedly that the only way we're successful is if Gus stays out of it. My armchair QB observation is that Lindsey has a ton more input, but Gus is never going to let it go completely. How could Kam Martin have 146 yards in one half and essentially never touch the ball again when the 2 lead backs are clearly injured? When Carry On pulled up on that first drive, he should have never seen the field again. Kam Martin is a better back than a hurt Carry On. Malik Miller is a better back than a Kam Pettway with plantar fasciitis. Devan Barrett may be a better back than Martin or Miller.
I'm with ya' Wes. I hope it becomes Lindsey's offense completely. But even he isn't dumb enough to use backs in this manner.
Are you saying Gus can only call plays when the players he likes are healthy (Marshall, Mason) and talented? We allegedly hired him because he was an offensive miracle maker. And now we want him to stay as far away from it as he can get? Not that I disagree, but what good is he?
We were a fucking machine in 2010 and 2013 and until A&M in 2014. If we got the ball at our own one with four seconds left, I wasn't worried. I confidently expected to score.
In 2011 after we lost at Clemson? We could have the ball at their one foot line, first down and 54 minutes to play. I had no confidence we could score (other than field goals) if we had ten downs to get in.
2012 he wasn't here.
We briefly had that same confidence against Bama in 2014, scoring pretty much at will -- except for the butt puckers in the red zone that kept us from hammering the brashness out of their stupid asses. TDs instead of field goals and it's 45-21 midway through the third. I don't know if they ever recover from that. But no.
After that, it's been either total fuctardery or blowing people's doors off. I don't see how in the screaming lemon fuck you go from annihilating Arkansas 56-3 (an Arkansas team that was 5-2 at the time) on your way to climbing from unranked to #8 and an outside shot at the CFP and then get fucked over by an unranked Georgia team 13-7 -- IN THE SPAN OF THREE FUCKING WEEKS. Georgia ended up 8-5 and lost to Vandy and got demolished by an Ole Miss team we handled easily.
THAT'S the kind of shit that puts the stink on Gus. That kind of shit right there. We never know what we have because we don't know how or if they're going to fuck it up from week to week.
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I love the defense...we've waited a long time to see a defense like this. The offense is starting to come around, Stidham is starting to look like the guy we were hoping for coming into the season. I love the occasional unpredictability on offense. 1st and 10 at your own 2 yard line? Play action, Bomb!!!!
I want to see the same offense this weekend...peddle to the fucking metal.
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I love the defense...we've waited a long time to see a defense like this. The offense is starting to come around, Stidham is starting to look like the guy we were hoping for coming into the season. I love the occasional unpredictability on offense. 1st and 10 at your own 2 yard line? Play action, Bomb!!!!
I want to see the same offense this weekend...peddle to the fucking metal.
I don't think metal has any money. Even if it did, I don't know what I could sell it. Maybe some rustoleum?
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Gus stumbled upon Pettway out of the blue. Maybe we get the other three backs involved (another Malzahn epiphany) with Stidham and the O-line continuing to improve.
It just has to be evident to this moron that the two veterans should be on the shelf. How is it possible for him not to realize he's sabotaging amen corner long before we get there?
And as for having Chip in the booth, I'm all for that. Gus should just make sure all the right groups are on the field right?
Not by that strained, agonized look on his face until it was out of reach.
I think Lindsay is the spotter and merely making suggestions. Gus is still yapping on that headset...far too much.
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Welcome back to Jordan Hare Stadium, where the Auburn Tigers lead Ole Miss 3-0 at the half in a surprisingly close game. And as we promised, we have a special treat for you because we had Head Coach Gus Malzahn mic'd up for one series during the second quarter and we're going to play you the conversation between he and Offensive Coordinator, Chip Lindsey, who is up in the press box. This will give the fans of college football some never heard before insight to what goes on in real time. Let's take a listen:
CGM: Chip, we only ran the ball up the middle 6 times on that last drive.
CCL: I know Coach, but you told me I could call more plays.
CGM: Yeeeah, I did. But you know I've gotta' have my runs up the middle mixed in there.
CCL: But it was only a 7 play drive.
CGM: And that's good. But, let's start this drive off with a hand off to Bubba up the middle.
CCL: Coach, we've given it to him 17 times already. He can barely walk as it is.
CGM: I'm not asking him to walk. I want him to run up the middle.
CCL: He's about to be out for the season.
CGM: Yeeeah, well we're gonna' take a good look at that later in the week. We haven't made a decision on that yet.
CCL: What?
CGM: Alright, the little guy in the red hat is walking off the field. That usually means we're about to start. Now hurry em' up to the line and run Bubba up the middle.
CCL: But Coach, I thought I was calling plays.
CGM: You are. You are. Just let me get a few runs up the middle with Bubba and then you can let Jarrett throw one long to one of those....what do you call em'?
CCL: Receivers, Coach. Receivers.
CGM: Yeah, receivers. Now hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry.....
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I call BS. There was not one "Run the play! Run the play!" CGM quote in there
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I call BS. There was not one "Run the play! Run the play!" CGM quote in there
You're right. I was in a hurry.
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What you dumbasses don't realize is that these plays are scripted. At least till the 3rd quarter.
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What you dumbasses don't realize is that these plays are scripted. At least till the 3rd quarter.
I found the first page of the script from the Mercer game
Auburn vs. Mercer playlist
1. Fake jet sweep, handoff to back.
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I'll trade Malzahn for a Waffle House cook. Hell just pay Al Borges, save some money.
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Come to think of it, when Al was doing the west coast thing here before we ran the ball, threw a heap to Ronnie and Caddy and mixed in the passing to the receivers quite well. Why is he on the staff?
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Welcome back to Jordan Hare Stadium, where the Auburn Tigers lead Ole Miss 3-0 at the half in a surprisingly close game. And as we promised, we have a special treat for you because we had Head Coach Gus Malzahn mic'd up for one series during the second quarter and we're going to play you the conversation between he and Offensive Coordinator, Chip Lindsey, who is up in the press box. This will give the fans of college football some never heard before insight to what goes on in real time. Let's take a listen:
CGM: Chip, we only ran the ball up the middle 6 times on that last drive.
CCL: I know Coach, but you told me I could call more plays.
CGM: Yeeeah, I did. But you know I've gotta' have my runs up the middle mixed in there.
CCL: But it was only a 7 play drive.
CGM: And that's good. But, let's start this drive off with a hand off to Bubba up the middle.
CCL: Coach, we've given it to him 17 times already. He can barely walk as it is.
CGM: I'm not asking him to walk. I want him to run up the middle.
CCL: He's about to be out for the season.
CGM: Yeeeah, well we're gonna' take a good look at that later in the week. We haven't made a decision on that yet.
CCL: What?
CGM: Alright, the little guy in the red hat is walking off the field. That usually means we're about to start. Now hurry em' up to the line and run Bubba up the middle.
CCL: But Coach, I thought I was calling plays.
CGM: You are. You are. Just let me get a few runs up the middle with Bubba and then you can let Jarrett throw one long to one of those....what do you call em'?
CCL: Receivers, Coach. Receivers.
CGM: Yeah, receivers. Now hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry.....
Must say, this was a funny one. Chuckle worthy.
Even a blind hog can find an acorn every once in a while.
Finally.
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You know what's going to happen. You all do.
We'll beat Ole Miss and look good doing it. That Sunday we'll creep into the Top Ten. LSU meanwhile will fall to Florida.
The following week we'll strut into Baton Rouge. Etling will have the game of his life. Guice will be effective for the first time all season. Arden Key will be closer to game shape. We'll have a kickoff run back or a punt blocked for a TD, there will be puckering in the red zone and... I'm scared of that game.
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You know what's going to happen. You all do.
We'll beat Ole Miss and look good doing it. That Sunday we'll creep into the Top Ten. LSU meanwhile will fall to Florida.
The following week we'll strut into Baton Rouge. Etling will have the game of his life. Guice will be effective for the first time all season. Arden Key will be closer to game shape. We'll have a kickoff run back or a punt blocked for a TD, there will be puckering in the red zone and... I'm scared of that game.
Ordinarily, I'd agree and yes I'm nervous about this game, but I think the difference is our defense.
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Ordinarily, I'd agree and yes I'm nervous about this game, but I think the difference is our defense.
If Gus fully takes back over the offense it won't matter. I pray and hope that what we have seen the last two games is a trend and not an anomaly.
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If Gus fully takes back over the offense it won't matter. I pray and hope that what we have seen the last two games is a trend and not an anomaly.
Orgeron has the market on hope and pray cornered.
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Lack of game reps by our backups will catch up with us. And that will be on Malzahn.
Yeah we probably get clowned in one of the next few games and the loss will be a direct result of not being prepared.
Just a few days ago Brian Matthew's wrote a piece about a plan being in place for Willis.
Really now? :facepalm:
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Lack of game reps by our backups will catch up with us. And that will be on Malzahn.
Yeah we probably get clowned in one of the next few games and the loss will be a direct result of not being prepared.
Just a few days ago Brian Matthew's wrote a piece about a plan being in place for Willis.
Really now? :facepalm:
We have always had a plan in pace for the backup QB.
Its called the "good luck" plan.
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Lack of game reps by our backups will catch up with us. And that will be on Malzahn.
Yeah we probably get clowned in one of the next few games and the loss will be a direct result of not being prepared.
Just a few days ago Brian Matthew's wrote a piece about a plan being in place for Willis.
Really now? :facepalm:
It's called the Whatchutalkinboutcat
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In all seriousness, Willis had better be getting serious practice reps in all phases of the offense. Behind Stidham, we're already down to a true freshman and a walk-on. And Stidham is horrible at the getcho-ass-on-da'-ground play.
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In all seriousness, Willis had better be getting serious practice reps in all phases of the offense. Behind Stidham, we're already down to a true freshman and a walk-on. And Stidham is horrible at the getcho-ass-on-da'-ground play.
No Kerwin Bell's lurking in the fold huh?
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No Kerwin Bell's lurking in the fold huh?
I'm not really sure what this means.
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I'm not really sure what this means.
Bell was a walkon, sixth on Florida's depth chart and exceeded all expectations thank you.
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Bell was a walkon, sixth on Florida's depth chart and exceeded all expectations thank you.
jmar, followed you for a while. Could say that I was a fan. You'd be lying but you could say that.
Anyway, this was a good post and I liked the analogy. But, from the question already asked, you can tell you had to explain it. You assumed everyone in the audience is a knowledgeable football fan, I'm sure.
Obviously, not the case. As a matter of fact, there is probably one or two so dense that microwave waves couldn't penetrate. We're talking major league level dumbass. If you want to get a point across, it takes a bat type of dumbness.
Overall, you're doing well. Carry on.
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Shouldn't that be just "microwaves"!
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Shouldn't that be just "microwaves"!
Give the guy a break. Didn't he just recently get his head caught in a lawn tractor accident?
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Shouldn't that be just "microwaves"!
^^^see.
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Bell was a walkon, sixth on Florida's depth chart and exceeded all expectations thank you.
A 6th string, walk-on QB at Florida in 1983. That's the analogy to Auburn's QB situation in 2017? Damn, how did I miss the reference? Spot on!
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Damn, how did I miss the reference?
Already addressed.
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Give the guy a break. Didn't he just recently get his head caught in a lawn tractor accident?
He had to have that metal plate replaced, cause every time his wife revved up the microwave he'd piss his pants and forget who he was for a half hour or so.
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He had to have that metal plate replaced, cause every time his wife revved up the microwave he'd piss his pants and forget who he was for a half hour or so.
Government plastic
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Government plastic
Right up there with Velveeta.
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A 6th string, walk-on QB at Florida in 1983. That's the analogy to Auburn's QB situation in 2017? Damn, how did I miss the reference? Spot on!
How bad did he beat us?
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How bad did he beat us?
Ugh...2 fucking points. I can still see that and the damn 1986 earthquake game in my head.
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Ugh...2 fucking points. I can still see that and the damn 1986 earthquake game in my head.
I thought of the Hodson earthquake loss just this morning. Haunting!
We were ahead of UF by 17 in 1986 and Bell brought them back to beat us 18-17. Definitely two of the worst defeats. Same season right?
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Earthquake game in '88.
Besides UF, we also lost to UGA in 86.'
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Earthquake game in '88.
Besides UF, we also lost to UGA in 86.'
That's right...the mind is slipping these days. I was there too, on the front row.
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A 6th string, walk-on QB at Florida in 1983. That's the analogy to Auburn's QB situation in 2017? Damn, how did I miss the reference? Spot on!
Jmar goes deep.
Next up on this old house. We lay linoleum the easy way. And without added cost. The purple of the toaster clings for more to this way but if you are sure a whore billows on a breeze the coffe can is yours that much I'll tell you.
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And remember...measure twice, cut once
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I thought of the Hodson earthquake loss just this morning. Haunting!
We were ahead of UF by 17 in 1986 and Bell brought them back to beat us 18-17. Definitely two of the worst defeats. Same season right?
I remember that like it was yesterday. The Florida loss was soul crushing. If I remember right we were Top 5. Florida turned the ball over maybe 10 times? And we still lost. Two weeks later we shit the bed against Georgia, lost a shot to play in the Sugar Bowl.
That was one of the best teams we ever had. Shouldn't have lost either game.
The Hodson thing cost us a national championship. I block it from my memory.
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I remember that like it was yesterday. The Florida loss was soul crushing. If I remember right we were Top 5. Florida turned the ball over maybe 10 times? And we still lost. Two weeks later we shit the bed against Georgia, lost a shot to play in the Sugar Bowl.
That was one of the best teams we ever had. Shouldn't have lost either game.
The Hodson thing cost us a national championship. I block it from my memory.
The Hodson thing was the Dye, prevent defense thing. LSU had only crossed midfield once the entire game, none of those coming in the second half. We need one stop. What do we do? Prevent defense. Snap, crackle, pop, earthquake. Bye Bye MNC.
BTW, Joe Frazier was talking about Kick 6 this past Saturday. He said the ground absolutely shook all the way out where he's set up. He said forget the earthquake game, there's no way there's ever been a louder roar from a crowd.
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That's right...the mind is slipping these days. I was there too, on the front row.
H-O-S-E Hose that line!
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That's right...the mind is slipping these days. I was there too, on the front row.
You have a great excuse. You did survive an earthquake, you know?
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The Hodson thing was the Dye, prevent defense thing. LSU had only crossed midfield once the entire game, none of those coming in the second half. We need one stop. What do we do? Prevent defense. Snap, crackle, pop, earthquake. Bye Bye MNC.
BTW, Joe Frazier was talking about Kick 6 this past Saturday. He said the ground absolutely shook all the way out where he's set up. He said forget the earthquake game, there's no way there's ever been a louder roar from a crowd.
He ain't lying. I was there. With him. We had a sweet man hug right afte....I mean yeah I've heard several back this claim up.
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He ain't lying. I was there. With him. We had a sweet man hug right afte....I mean yeah I've heard several back this claim up.
How bout' those Bears?
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The Hodson thing was the Dye, prevent defense thing. LSU had only crossed midfield once the entire game, none of those coming in the second half. We need one stop. What do we do? Prevent defense. Snap, crackle, pop, earthquake. Bye Bye MNC.
BTW, Joe Frazier was talking about Kick 6 this past Saturday. He said the ground absolutely shook all the way out where he's set up. He said forget the earthquake game, there's no way there's ever been a louder roar from a crowd.
I hugged everybody in section 32 that night. Twice.
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I thought of the Hodson earthquake loss just this morning. Haunting!
We were ahead of UF by 17 in 1986 and Bell brought them back to beat us 18-17. Definitely two of the worst defeats. Same season right?
I was at that game. I kept thinking, "Dude. Just stay down!"
We beat the shit out of Bell. He kept getting up and throwing it again and again and again. I think he had a thumb, forefinger, and one toe left by the end of the game. And he still kept throwing it!
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I was at that game. I kept thinking, "Dude. Just stay down!"
We beat the shit out of Bell. He kept getting up and throwing it again and again and again. I think he had a thumb, forefinger, and one toe left by the end of the game. And he still kept throwing it!
Are you in safe mode or did you lose your bifocals?
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Are you in safe mode or did you lose your bifocals?
The internets scare and confuse him.
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The internets scare and confuse him.
Not sure about that, he looks pretty happy here.
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The internets scare and confuse him.
Sometimes when he gets a message on his fax machine, he wonders if little demons got inside and typed it?
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Sometimes when he gets a message on his fax machine, he wonders if little demons got inside and typed it?
The same ones that make the clock on his VCR blink 12:00?
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The same ones that make the clock on his VCR blink 12:00?
The same thing happens with my food warmer and my coffee urn. What gives?
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The same ones that make the clock on his VCR blink 12:00?
Yes, that one. Make sure you have a couple quarters handy in case he beeps you.
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Are you in safe mode or did you lose your bifocals?
This damn tablet gets all freaky sometimes. It actually looks normal on this thing. What is it doing?