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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Godfather on September 10, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
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Wish I could say I am surprised. Wish I could say I was wrong. Gus needs to be gone.
Let's just keep doing the same thing and hope for a different result...definition of insanity right? Nope definition of Auburn football.
What a joke...I feel bad for our defense. AUmazing performance only to be held up by a shitstorm. Twirly bird would have gained more yards.
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It's a trend. A big one. It's not hard to see. This ship is sinking and fast.
Gus needs to go now. And jay needs to be right behind him - or as jarhead said - we will be right back in this spot in 4/5 years ago. I'm tired of the rinse and repeat bullshit with our program the last ten years. The occasional 2 great lightning in a bottle seasons in that span has seriously impaired our judgement.
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I just rewatched some of this abomination.
Stidham definitely sucks. Panicking and running out of the box and NOT throwing the fucking ball away is fundamentally pitiful. He shouldn't even have to be coached to do that. As I said before, I saw a ninth grader in his first live action who was that situationally-aware Friday night. He also never, ever, ever stepped up into the pocket. His first instinct is to wander wide and lose four or five more yards.
As hesitant as he was, though? On most of the sacks watch the receivers. They don't come off the line with any energy. Every single route that I could see had them with their backs to the line of scrimmage and a DB in their pocket going straight down the field 15-20 yards. Never even looking back. No curls. No digs. No slants. No outs. Nothing. No safety valve out of the backfield or from the tight end.
First drive, first and goal. Malzahn's ass puckered. Score a TD there and I honestly believe the entire game turns. When that drive choked? The entire offensive gameplan fell apart from that point on.
Pettway was either injured or fucking high. His slow ass waddled up to the line and laid down most of the time. The problem is, he didn't really get enough chances to get into a rhythm.
If my count is right we called 23 passes and six runs in the second half. Every run was telegraphed and essentially the same vanilla play -- the only running play we apparently have.
The way our defense was playing? We should have alternated Pettway and Martin and leaned on them. I'd rather run 23 times and pass six.
We are not a pro-style passing offense. Malzahn cannot coach that. I've struggled to try to pretend he isn't but the man is a one-trick pony. He needs a quarterback who can keep defenses honest with the threat of the run and pass just a little. He (or his staff) cannot coach receivers, have no idea how to develop a gameplan, don't know what to do if things aren't working (no adjustments) and have no clue how to fix it. Hell, look at 2013. How many plays did we actually run? Four? Five? Even THEN we were complaining about the lack of WR routes. The game plan was run, run, throw it as far as you can. Marshall's ability to tuck and run, however, kept the defense from just bearing down and sending everything.
This looks very much to me like the 2012 abortion. Stidham looked just as incomplete, ill-prepared and chickenshit as Moseley. What if Moseley (and Frazier and Johnson and the rest) actually weren't just garbage QBs? What if they were all ruined by the Malzahn method?
At some point this week I'm going to get tired of bitching about this. And then I will be done. Done with this season. Done with this staff. Done with this AD. Actually, I've been done with him since the very first time I saw him strutting through the press box after David Housel was replaced. I knew what he was and I was right.
I'm going to find other ways to spend my Saturdays. Dallas? Come to South Alabama and we'll play golfs.
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Apparently Pettway was hurt.
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Apparently Pettway was hurt.
Yeah, that was painfully obvious. He was trotted out to be a decoy, but once Clemson realized that he was gimpy they unloaded.
We're back to the fundamental "plan B" problem. There ain't one, regardless of the crisis. Why no Malik Miller/Kam Martin combo in the absence of Pettway/Johnson?
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Yeah, that was painfully obvious. He was trotted out to be a decoy, but once Clemson realized that he was gimpy they unloaded.
We're back to the fundamental "plan B" problem. There ain't one, regardless of the crisis. Why no Malik Miller/Kam Martin combo in the absence of Pettway/Johnson?
Because our coach/OC/Double Bubble marketing strategist is a complete dumbass.
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"This looks very much to me like the 2012 abortion. Stidham looked just as incomplete, ill-prepared and chickenshit as Moseley. What if Moseley (and Frazier and Johnson and the rest) actually weren't just garbage QBs? What if they were all ruined by the Malzahn method? "
This part ^^^???
Yes. This is how I'm starting to think. I'm not sure those qbs were bad. They weren't before his ass got a hold of them. All looked damn good in hs. And then suddenly they look lost and just suck? Nah. Not buying it. Marshall and Cam bailed him out with some extreme amount of talent and athleticism.
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Yeah, that was painfully obvious. He was trotted out to be a decoy, but once Clemson realized that he was gimpy they unloaded.
We're back to the fundamental "plan B" problem. There ain't one, regardless of the crisis. Why no Malik Miller/Kam Martin combo in the absence of Pettway/Johnson?
And johnson shouldn't be hurt. But they decided to run him 17 times in a little more than a quarter of football. Dumb. Reminds me of how richt rode Chubb his first two years.
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And johnson shouldn't be hurt. But they decided to run him 17 times in a little more than a quarter of football. Dumb. Reminds me of how richt rode Chubb his first two years.
Do NOT google that. What you find might blind you.
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Both defenses were lights out last night. We held the defending national champs to under 300 yards and 14 points and lost. And it really wound up not being close. We talked a lot about Stidham and holding the ball etc. But where he's at as a QB is not the problem, IMO. The problem is obviously Gus Malzahn and his total lack of awareness. What you saw last night was the night and day difference between a championship coach and one that's clearly in way over his head.
Our defense was kicking their asses. So, what did Dabo and staff do? They went to an offense that required the QB to get the ball out of his hands quickly. How many 7-10 yard passes did Renfro catch? How many quick hitting slants, pick plays and underneath routes did they run? Yes, they had a couple of unbelievably placed longer passes on their scoring drives, but 90% of their offense was an adjustment to account for the fact that our defense was in their faces.
What did Gus do? 90% of his pass plays were slow developing, down field pass patterns. One pass to a back the entire night. One quick slant to Hastings the entire night. Anyone recall a 4th and 2 in the second half that we went for? I believe it wound up in a sack. Either way, the replay showed 2 receivers heading off into the wild blue yonder while one was trying to run a 10 yard out pattern. Ryan Davis was our best receiver last night and the few passes he caught were all under 10 yards. Wouldn't want to keep doing that, would we?
We're loaded with talent, folks. We just have a coach that literally has no clue what to do with it or how to counter what the other team is doing. Dabo did. He changed his offense. He made adjustments. He won another tight ball game.
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Both defenses were lights out last night. We held the defending national champs to under 300 yards and 14 points and lost. And it really wound up not being close. We talked a lot about Stidham and holding the ball etc. But where he's at as a QB is not the problem, IMO. The problem is obviously Gus Malzahn and his total lack of awareness. What you saw last night was the night and day difference between a championship coach and one that's clearly in way over his head.
Our defense was kicking their asses. So, what did Dabo and staff do? They went to an offense that required the QB to get the ball out of his hands quickly. How many 7-10 yard passes did Renfro catch? How many quick hitting slants, pick plays and underneath routes did they run? Yes, they had a couple of unbelievably placed longer passes on their scoring drives, but 90% of their offense was an adjustment to account for the fact that our defense was in their faces.
What did Gus do? 90% of his pass plays were slow developing, down field pass patterns. One pass to a back the entire night. One quick slant to Hastings the entire night. Anyone recall a 4th and 2 in the second half that we went for? I believe it wound up in a sack. Either way, the replay showed 2 receivers heading off into the wild blue yonder while one was trying to run a 10 yard out pattern. Ryan Davis was our best receiver last night and the few passes he caught were all under 10 yards. Wouldn't want to keep doing that, would we?
We're loaded with talent, folks. We just have a coach that literally has no clue what to do with it or how to counter what the other team is doing. Dabo did. He changed his offense. He made adjustments. He won another tight ball game.
Allegedly that's what this waffle house motherfucker is paying Chimp Lindsey millions to do.
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Allegedly that's what this waffle house motherfucker is paying Chimp Lindsey millions to do.
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Wow. Just wow.
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Both defenses were lights out last night. We held the defending national champs to under 300 yards and 14 points and lost. And it really wound up not being close. We talked a lot about Stidham and holding the ball etc. But where he's at as a QB is not the problem, IMO. The problem is obviously Gus Malzahn and his total lack of awareness. What you saw last night was the night and day difference between a championship coach and one that's clearly in way over his head.
Our defense was kicking their asses. So, what did Dabo and staff do? They went to an offense that required the QB to get the ball out of his hands quickly. How many 7-10 yard passes did Renfro catch? How many quick hitting slants, pick plays and underneath routes did they run? Yes, they had a couple of unbelievably placed longer passes on their scoring drives, but 90% of their offense was an adjustment to account for the fact that our defense was in their faces.
What did Gus do? 90% of his pass plays were slow developing, down field pass patterns. One pass to a back the entire night. One quick slant to Hastings the entire night. Anyone recall a 4th and 2 in the second half that we went for? I believe it wound up in a sack. Either way, the replay showed 2 receivers heading off into the wild blue yonder while one was trying to run a 10 yard out pattern. Ryan Davis was our best receiver last night and the few passes he caught were all under 10 yards. Wouldn't want to keep doing that, would we?
We're loaded with talent, folks. We just have a coach that literally has no clue what to do with it or how to counter what the other team is doing. Dabo did. He changed his offense. He made adjustments. He won another tight ball game.
This is exactly why I want the change now. We can maybe win 8-9 games if steele is made interim and the actual offensive coaches run the offense. It's a better setup than what we have now.
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This is exactly why I want the change now. We can maybe win 8-9 games if steele is made interim and the actual offensive coaches run the offense. It's a better setup than what we have now.
It won't be any different. The head of the hydra is still there planning for scoreboards and videodrone in JDH.
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It won't be any different. The head of the hydra is still there planning for scoreboards and videodrone in JDH.
I seriously doubt though that he would get involved in playcalling directly. If he does we got bigger problems. I'm only advocating this to salvage the season for now. Can deal with the long term in December/January.
pj fleck anyone?
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I seriously doubt though that he would get involved in playcalling directly. If he does we got bigger problems. I'm only advocating this to salvage the season for now. Can deal with the long term in December/January.
pj fleck anyone?
He has gone through the Big D (and I don't mean Dallas) so his "moral score" is probably too low for Deacon Jacobs.
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Give me Les Miles.
He's entertaining, loved by all and can recruit all while fielding an equally shitty offense with QB play second to none.
We still win at least eight games while we crack the code (pay him for staying away from the offense) in search of his eventual replacement- a top notch God fearin' O.C./ QB whisperer.
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I don't really care who was calling plays. It is Gus' responsibility.
15 yds in the second half is very embarrassing. If we were competitive and in a position to win, I wouldn't be nearly as dissatisfied. We were never a threat in the 2nd half, imo. The same story we've seen over and over.
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He has gone through the Big D (and I don't mean Dallas) so his "moral score" is probably too low for Deacon Jacobs.
But his new wife has energy...and boobs. never mind. Jay hates the boobs...
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But his new wife has energy...and boobs. never mind. Jay hates the boobs...
Why would Jay hate the boobs. He's a lesbian, isn't he?
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Jacob's won't hire anyone demanding the autonomy Fleck requires.
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Jacob's won't hire anyone demanding the autonomy Fleck requires.
Fleck is the only guy that would scare me some if bama hired him after Saban retires. Much like dabo in being a cheerleader but has the work ethic of Saban. And seems to actually be a better coach than dabo.
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If Jacobs and his reputation for both glory hogging and meddling remains? Who in their right mind would take the job?
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If Jacobs and his reputation for both glory hogging and meddling remains? Who in their right mind would take the job?
It's why he needs to go too or this is all futile.
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Well, in one sense, you have to separate the two. Jacobs'"meddling" has nothing to do with Malzahn's coaching. CGM is simply overmatched at this level. It's just Jacobs' fault for hiring him. If you're going to pay me $5 mil/per to Corch in the SEC West, you betchafatass I'm taking that, Jacobs or not. Jacobs needs to go for a ton of other reasons, that include hiring the wrong guys for the job. But he's got squat to do with the play calling this past Saturday.
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I just rewatched some of this abomination.
Stidham definitely sucks. Panicking and running out of the box and NOT throwing the fucking ball away is fundamentally pitiful. He shouldn't even have to be coached to do that. As I said before, I saw a ninth grader in his first live action who was that situationally-aware Friday night. He also never, ever, ever stepped up into the pocket. His first instinct is to wander wide and lose four or five more yards.
As hesitant as he was, though? On most of the sacks watch the receivers. They don't come off the line with any energy. Every single route that I could see had them with their backs to the line of scrimmage and a DB in their pocket going straight down the field 15-20 yards. Never even looking back. No curls. No digs. No slants. No outs. Nothing. No safety valve out of the backfield or from the tight end.
First drive, first and goal. Malzahn's ass puckered. Score a TD there and I honestly believe the entire game turns. When that drive choked? The entire offensive gameplan fell apart from that point on.
Pettway was either injured or fucking high. His slow ass waddled up to the line and laid down most of the time. The problem is, he didn't really get enough chances to get into a rhythm.
If my count is right we called 23 passes and six runs in the second half. Every run was telegraphed and essentially the same vanilla play -- the only running play we apparently have.
The way our defense was playing? We should have alternated Pettway and Martin and leaned on them. I'd rather run 23 times and pass six.
We are not a pro-style passing offense. Malzahn cannot coach that. I've struggled to try to pretend he isn't but the man is a one-trick pony. He needs a quarterback who can keep defenses honest with the threat of the run and pass just a little. He (or his staff) cannot coach receivers, have no idea how to develop a gameplan, don't know what to do if things aren't working (no adjustments) and have no clue how to fix it. Hell, look at 2013. How many plays did we actually run? Four? Five? Even THEN we were complaining about the lack of WR routes. The game plan was run, run, throw it as far as you can. Marshall's ability to tuck and run, however, kept the defense from just bearing down and sending everything.
This looks very much to me like the 2012 abortion. Stidham looked just as incomplete, ill-prepared and chickenshit as Moseley. What if Moseley (and Frazier and Johnson and the rest) actually weren't just garbage QBs? What if they were all ruined by the Malzahn method?
At some point this week I'm going to get tired of bitching about this. And then I will be done. Done with this season. Done with this staff. Done with this AD. Actually, I've been done with him since the very first time I saw him strutting through the press box after David Housel was replaced. I knew what he was and I was right.
I'm going to find other ways to spend my Saturdays. Dallas? Come to South Alabama and we'll play golfs.
Would love too, Gonna be in Columbus/Ft. Benning the Weekend of Oct 6th.
I watched the first half and start of 3rd Qtr, you knew what was coming, not worth the time or aggravation to watch Auburn football. Turned it over to UGA/Norte dame, was nice watching a well coached team. UGA will curb stomp again this year.
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If Jacobs and his reputation for both glory hogging and meddling remains? Who in their right mind would take the job?
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Well, in one sense, you have to separate the two. Jacobs'"meddling" has nothing to do with Malzahn's coaching. CGM is simply overmatched at this level. It's just Jacobs' fault for hiring him. If you're going to pay me $5 mil/per to Corch in the SEC West, you betchafatass I'm taking that, Jacobs or not. Jacobs needs to go for a ton of other reasons, that include hiring the wrong guys for the job. But he's got squat to do with the play calling this past Saturday.
If Jacobs doesn't go we will have another Gus or gene this spring. That's my issue.
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I heard Clint Meyers and Jay Jacobs tag team sodomized the whole softball team with broom handles.
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I heard Clint Meyers and Jay Jacobs tag team sodomized the whole softball team with broom handles.
Figuratively, yes.
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If Jacobs doesn't go we will have another Gus or gene this spring. That's my issue.
Yep! Specifically a young up and comer by the name of Rhett Lashlee.
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Yep! Specifically a young up and comer by the name of Rhett Lashlee.
Or Kodi Burns.
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Or Kodi Burns.
Good call! We'll save money by not having to fly Jacobs up to Connecticut. It'll help with the buyout funds in 3 years.
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Or Kodi Burns.
It's my dream job, Jay
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Or Kodi Burns.
Good call. You are probably right. Jay will justify it by saying we've had major issues with WR play and this is Kodi's specially.
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Wish I could say I am surprised. Wish I could say I was wrong. Gus needs to be gone.
Let's just keep doing the same thing and hope for a different result...definition of insanity right? Nope definition of Auburn football.
What a joke...I feel bad for our defense. AUmazing performance only to be held up by a shootstorm. Twirly bird would have gained more yards.
the "punt bama punt" game in 1972 was worse, with less than 100 yards of total offense, 92, i think it was
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the "punt bama punt" game in 1972 was worse, with less than 100 yards of total offense, 92, i think it was
Were you there? That was at least a win.
We fired Tony Franklin for being under 200 yards against some or the other.
BTW, I need photos of your wife. I have to decide whether to declare Prima Noctum.
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no, i was 17 years old. I am 63 years old and have followed AU for 57 years without missing a game, either by being there,listening to radio or watching on tv
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no, i was 17 years old. I am 63 years old and have followed AU for 57 years without missing a game, either by being there,listening to radio or watching on tv
Hell yes. I just moved down the list one slot.
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no, i was 17 years old. I am 63 years old and have followed AU for 57 years without missing a game, either by being there,listening to radio or watching on tv
63?
I may have to pass on the Prima Noctum unless you're a sugar daddy.
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Hell yes. I just moved down the list one slot.
We all did.
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We all did.
not only does it appear that I am the oldest, it also looks like I am the most intelligent :rimshot:
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not only does it appear that I am the oldest, it also looks like I am the most intelligent :rimshot:
Don't get ahead of yourself, there are a few here that would respond if they hadn't already gone to sleep for the day.
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Don't get ahead of yourself, there are a few here that would respond if they hadn't already gone to sleep for the day.
Nonsense oldautiger is just eating dinner at Dennys
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Hell yes. I just moved down the list one slot.
You're still above Buzz.
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You're still above Buzz.
I know. He loves teh tea bags.
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You're still above Buzz.
Everyone is above Buzz on the Vette list
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Ground is pretty solid over here. No one under 35 will ever sign up for a message board ever again from here until Trump destroys the world. :poke:
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Everyone is above Buzz on the Vette list
Not Dallas!
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Not Dallas!
Yassssss!