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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on September 07, 2013, 11:27:08 PM
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- I saw a lot of great things tonight. This was a HUGE win for our program. I'm leaning towards calling this the Resurrection Season.
- Arkansas State wasn't Arkansas Pine Bluff Academy for the Young. They won their conference last season. An 8+ win team for multiple years. Where Hugh Freeze and Gus Malzahn took their first big steps to becoming SEC head coaches. Where a Boise State guy is beginning his ascent to big time coaching gigs. And we beat them 38-9.
- I'm going to wait for an SEC win, but I'm very very close to saying we are playing Auburn football again. Real Auburn football. The kind of football where our defense is nasty and hits hard. The kind where our defensive line is the most dominant group on the field. The kind where our DBs pop you if you catch the ball. The kind where our running backs hit the hole hard and shake and bake and break tackles and score lots of points. The kind where we have more running back depth than most teams have on their 1st string.
- But we still have to wait. Because there's two glaring holes in our rise to football.
- It's official - Nick Marshall sucks at throwing the ball. He threw 20+ interceptions last season. He was wildly inaccurate last week, and he had some really poor throws this week. Like numerous quarterbacks before him, I believe he will continue to struggle to be consistent and will be a liability on the field. It's inevitable that his turnovers and costly errors will give the other team enough opportunities to beat us. I don't have an answer. I don't believe we can call on back ups to fill in. It's just what we'll have to adjust to if we're going to win ball games.
- Marshall CAN run the ball. He's small and quick and has insane straight line speed. You know who else had insane straight line speed? Pat White. I really can see us just running the ball 90% of the time and running the option and beating most of teams on our schedule. LSU, Georgia, and Alabama would be tough. I think we could take everyone else.
- We have enough of a running game to keep up with anyone. We can drain clock. We can strike in multiple ways. We can score points.
- The second problem is middle linebacker, and it'll be worse the 1st half of the MIss State game. Frost stepped it up tonight. He looked like he was starting to come around as a 5 star, 250 pound athlete that can manhandled offensive players. Then he was ejected. So we're stuck with Jake Holland who again showcased his uncanny ability to be a 35 year old dad who loves Auburn and somehow has been allowed to suit up as a starter. He's slow. He's small. He's out of position. He's most of what you don't want your defensive captain to be. But he's our guy. He's our burden.
- As for the penalty, I don't mind Frost getting called for that hit. It is a cheap shot. It's something I remember Tuberville defenses doing often - taking a shot at the quarterback's upper body after they threw the ball. So throw the flag. March the offense 15 yards. Give the player a stern talking to and move the fuck on.
- Tell me how it makes any sense to equate a late hit with a punch to the face? You punch someone, you miss a game. See Mike Blanc in 2010 for reference. Frost was not being malicious. He was hitting high in order to deflect the pass or get a shot in to the quarterback to prevent him from scrambling. And now he's ejected and suspended? Why? How does that consequence match the penalty? It doesn't. It's all about the concussion lawsuits, which the NFL settled and I'm sure the NCAA can to. Just give them some money and then make all players sign a waiver. It's asinine that our game could be impacted next week because the NCAA doesn't want to get sued for something that happened in the past.
- We're playing pretty much every defensive lineman we have on roster. I don't think I saw Daniel, but I saw lots of numbers and names going out there.
- Carl Lawson is a tremendous talent, but when he was in late in the game, I watched him closely. He takes plays off. He comes off the ball hard and if it's not there for him to make the play, he pretty much jogs until the play is over. He pursued the running quarterback for a few yards and then slowed up. Maybe he was gassed? But then the next play it was a quick pass to the side away from him and he literally just stopped. Just stood up and walked quickly towards the ball. I hope the coaches see that and fix it. A 6'2 260 guy who is pure muscle and fast should be destroying the line of scrimmage every play no matter where the ball is headed.
- If we had a passing game and a middle linebacker, I would be predicting 9 wins right now with the possibility of upsetting any team on our schedule. It's still possible. Marshall is very young in Malzahn's offense and hopefully will get coached up. Frost could get his head on right and become the beast we expect him to be. But as of right now, I'm thinking 7-5 with a bowl win to finish 8-5. I just don't see how we can beat LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Georgia, or Alabama.
OTHER TEAMS:
- Todd Gurley will go down as an SEC legend. He's right there with Lattimore and DMac.
- Jadaveon Clowney is just a defensive end. He's not Cam Newton. That's what the media wants him to be though - the Cam Newton of defense. I was watching him play against Georgia and then comparing their other ends and Auburn's ends to his play. It is mind boggling how fast and powerful he is off the ball. He slides through 300 pound lineman like they're a waterslide. He is unblockable one on one. Absolutely unblockable, and Georgia gameplanned away from him. That's what happens to great defensive players especially guys on the outside like ends and corners. You go away from them and take them out of the game. Dude will be a top 5 pick. Teams have to be drooling at what he can do even if it's only on third down.
- Texas is getting drilled by BYU as I write this. Mack Brown is done. He has to be. Who will replace him? I'll tell you who. Lane Kiffin. It's inevitable. That's his whole career. He sucks and then moves on to the next better gig. He'll suck at Texas for three years then Nick Saban will retire, and Alabama will have 85 5 star recruits on roster. Then Alabama will hire Lane Kiffin from Texas. Then he'll suck at Alabama and then be hired by the US Olympics to coach the basketball team.
- I do not care about Michigan-Notre Dame. It's a game for old people. It's a game for guys that are cranky and crotchety and ready for the young kids to pay for their retirement. Neither team is pulling in the hot NFL prospects. Neither team has a respectable coaching staff. It's a mid-major bout that deserves an 11am spot on ABC or ESPN2. No matter how much Gameday and Sportscenter try to hype it up, it's still a weak football game.
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- I saw a lot of great things tonight. This was a HUGE win for our program. I'm leaning towards calling this the Resurrection Season.
- Arkansas State wasn't Arkansas Pine Bluff Academy for the Young. They won their conference last season. An 8+ win team for multiple years. Where Hugh Freeze and Gus Malzahn took their first big steps to becoming SEC head coaches. Where a Boise State guy is beginning his ascent to big time coaching gigs. And we beat them 38-9.
- I'm going to wait for an SEC win, but I'm very very close to saying we are playing Auburn football again. Real Auburn football. The kind of football where our defense is nasty and hits hard. The kind where our defensive line is the most dominant group on the field. The kind where our DBs pop you if you catch the ball. The kind where our running backs hit the hole hard and shake and bake and break tackles and score lots of points. The kind where we have more running back depth than most teams have on their 1st string.
- But we still have to wait. Because there's two glaring holes in our rise to football.
- It's official - Nick Marshall sucks at throwing the ball. He threw 20+ interceptions last season. He was wildly inaccurate last week, and he had some really poor throws this week. Like numerous quarterbacks before him, I believe he will continue to struggle to be consistent and will be a liability on the field. It's inevitable that his turnovers and costly errors will give the other team enough opportunities to beat us. I don't have an answer. I don't believe we can call on back ups to fill in. It's just what we'll have to adjust to if we're going to win ball games.
- Marshall CAN run the ball. He's small and quick and has insane straight line speed. You know who else had insane straight line speed? Pat White. I really can see us just running the ball 90% of the time and running the option and beating most of teams on our schedule. LSU, Georgia, and Alabama would be tough. I think we could take everyone else.
- We have enough of a running game to keep up with anyone. We can drain clock. We can strike in multiple ways. We can score points.
- The second problem is middle linebacker, and it'll be worse the 1st half of the MIss State game. Frost stepped it up tonight. He looked like he was starting to come around as a 5 star, 250 pound athlete that can manhandled offensive players. Then he was ejected. So we're stuck with Jake Holland who again showcased his uncanny ability to be a 35 year old dad who loves Auburn and somehow has been allowed to suit up as a starter. He's slow. He's small. He's out of position. He's most of what you don't want your defensive captain to be. But he's our guy. He's our burden.
- As for the penalty, I don't mind Frost getting called for that hit. It is a cheap shot. It's something I remember Tuberville defenses doing often - taking a shot at the quarterback's upper body after they threw the ball. So throw the flag. March the offense 15 yards. Give the player a stern talking to and move the fudge on.
- Tell me how it makes any sense to equate a late hit with a punch to the face? You punch someone, you miss a game. See Mike Blanc in 2010 for reference. Frost was not being malicious. He was hitting high in order to deflect the pass or get a shot in to the quarterback to prevent him from scrambling. And now he's ejected and suspended? Why? How does that consequence match the penalty? It doesn't. It's all about the concussion lawsuits, which the NFL settled and I'm sure the NCAA can to. Just give them some money and then make all players sign a waiver. It's asinine that our game could be impacted next week because the NCAA doesn't want to get sued for something that happened in the past.
- We're playing pretty much every defensive lineman we have on roster. I don't think I saw Daniel, but I saw lots of numbers and names going out there.
- Carl Lawson is a tremendous talent, but when he was in late in the game, I watched him closely. He takes plays off. He comes off the ball hard and if it's not there for him to make the play, he pretty much jogs until the play is over. He pursued the running quarterback for a few yards and then slowed up. Maybe he was gassed? But then the next play it was a quick pass to the side away from him and he literally just stopped. Just stood up and walked quickly towards the ball. I hope the coaches see that and fix it. A 6'2 260 guy who is pure muscle and fast should be destroying the line of scrimmage every play no matter where the ball is headed.
- If we had a passing game and a middle linebacker, I would be predicting 9 wins right now with the possibility of upsetting any team on our schedule. It's still possible. Marshall is very young in Malzahn's offense and hopefully will get coached up. Frost could get his head on right and become the beast we expect him to be. But as of right now, I'm thinking 7-5 with a bowl win to finish 8-5. I just don't see how we can beat LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Georgia, or Alabama.
OTHER TEAMS:
- Todd Gurley will go down as an SEC legend. He's right there with Lattimore and DMac.
- Jadaveon Clowney is just a defensive end. He's not Cam Newton. That's what the media wants him to be though - the Cam Newton of defense. I was watching him play against Georgia and then comparing their other ends and Auburn's ends to his play. It is mind boggling how fast and powerful he is off the ball. He slides through 300 pound lineman like they're a waterslide. He is unblockable one on one. Absolutely unblockable, and Georgia gameplanned away from him. That's what happens to great defensive players especially guys on the outside like ends and corners. You go away from them and take them out of the game. Dude will be a top 5 pick. Teams have to be drooling at what he can do even if it's only on third down.
- Texas is getting drilled by BYU as I write this. Mack Brown is done. He has to be. Who will replace him? I'll tell you who. Lane Kiffin. It's inevitable. That's his whole career. He sucks and then moves on to the next better gig. He'll suck at Texas for three years then Nick Saban will retire, and Alabama will have 85 5 star recruits on roster. Then Alabama will hire Lane Kiffin from Texas. Then he'll suck at Alabama and then be hired by the US Olympics to coach the basketball team.
- I do not care about Michigan-Notre Dame. It's a game for old people. It's a game for guys that are cranky and crotchety and ready for the young kids to pay for their retirement. Neither team is pulling in the hot NFL prospects. Neither team has a respectable coaching staff. It's a mid-major bout that deserves an 11am spot on ABC or ESPN2. No matter how much Gameday and Sportscenter try to hype it up, it's still a weak football game.
I think you've been drinking.
A win over Arkansas State is NEVER a "huge win." A win over a team like ASU should be a cupcake win. Should be like a stroll through the park, just something to do to put a W in the books. You should be able to yawn through it, knowing it's in the bank before the kickoff. Not quite there yet, but almost. That team was not going to beat us no matter who we played at QB. Even Frazier. But it wasn't a snoozer blowout.
Marshall is inconsistent, but I keep coming back to the fact that he didn't get spring practice. Even at that he's still a better option than Wallace, AND he's got enormous upside. The fumble was stupid and he's missed some passes, but he didn't throw the 400mph laser tonight like he did last week. He's yet to throw an interception. Yeah, the fumble was dumb but I saw some encouraging things. He made the right reads most of the time.
Will know more next week but we may have an offensive line and running game that can lean on you and grind you down. That would be a good thing.
On defense the team simply plays better when Holland is off the field. They're more aggressive. I've come to the conclusion that it's almost like me playing golf. The more I think the worse I play. Jake seems to be trying to think a lot. When he's off the field there seems to be less thinking and more playing the game. Once we stopped being tentative and just got after it, we shut them entirely down. Where was the running game that was going to rack up 400 yards on us?
Amazingly that bunch gives us little credit. The refs stole the game from them (despite calling 148 holding penalties on us). Their coach sucks because he can't call plays in the red zone. Pffft. Screw them.
I DO care about Michigan and Notre Dame. It may be old man football, but I like watching the Wolverines knock that overrated bunch of leprechauns off. I like Michigan. I wish Michigan was in the SEC instead of Missouri.
South Carolina losing was bad for the SEC. Tennessee is the only team in the East without a loss now.
I didn't think Gurley was all that. Looked average to me.
I like the fact that Washington State is hanging with USC. I hope they end up puncturing the Trojans. Auburn's offense looked better against WSU than USC has so far. Defense seems about equal to what USC has done to this point. (near halftime)
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Oh shit, Wazzou db just took it to the house against the pack of Trojans.............tied at 7-7......cool
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Well Wazzou pulled it off 10-7!
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I believe my rankings were pretty close last weekend, so I'm going to attempt to rank each position again...
QB passing: D+
QB running: C
RB: B+
WR catching: C
WR blocking: B-
OL run blocking: B
OL pass blocking: B+
Overall Offense: C+
DL pass rush: C-
DL run D: C+
LB pass coverage: D
LB run D: C-
DB: C+
Tackling: C+
Overall Defense: C
Special Teams: B-
Win: A (I decided to keep the win as a A, considering everyone in the media had Auburn losing this game and the fact that ASU isn't a bad team)
Total Team Grade: B-
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Harbison said we played zone save for key third downs and in the red zone.
We played all but those nursing injuries and Johnson so it seemed.
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This game was a quantum leap forward for each unit (except special teams, because they really don't have that much room for improvement).
Marshall was a much better passer this week than last and, with more reps and live action each week, he will continue to improve. It's tough to be hard on the kid when he goes 10-17, 147yds and 2TDs. When you're rolling up 300+yds on the ground, that is all the production you should need out of your QB.
The running game is nasty. Two guys at 100 yds and all 3 had TDs.
The defense played with intensity and did a pretty fine impression of a stone wall when necessary. The LB play, while still subpar when compared with other SEC teams, was actually serviceable. Which is to say, dramatically improved. I even saw Jake get in front of a runner and...wait for it...make the tackle.
All in all, this was a great confidence-building win for this team and I think they are going into SEC play believing that they can win games.
PS- almost forgot to mention my shock at seeing the entire 2nd unit on the field with several minutes to go in the game. When was the last time we saw that in JHS?
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I think you've been drinking.
A win over Arkansas State is NEVER a "huge win." A win over a team like ASU should be a cupcake win. Should be like a stroll through the park, just something to do to put a W in the books. You should be able to yawn through it, knowing it's in the bank before the kickoff. Not quite there yet, but almost. That team was not going to beat us no matter who we played at QB. Even Frazier. But it wasn't a snoozer blowout.
We dominated them at every facet of the game except for our middle linebacker. Even our quarterback who was inaccurate and shaky hit a few nice long pass plays.
This IS huge for us. We fucking sucked last year. We worse than sucked. We weren't anything. We didn't show up. We were a bunch of punks who wanted to dance and party and act thug instead of attempt to play football.
This game combined with last week shows that we're on the way back. That we have guys learning their positions and listening to their coaches and making an effort to execute instead of just be a badass.
We haven't dominated an FBS opponent besides New Mexico State since 2010, and NMS was 1-11 last year with their only win being against Cal State of Sacramento.
In 2011, we needed a miracle to beat Utah State. We were sluggish against Florida A&M and Samford. We barely got past LA Monroe last year and Alabama A&M couldn't beat Hoover.
This year? We played a complete game. Beat a team that won their conference. A team that has won 10+ games the past two seasons. A team that rushed for 500+ yards last week and routinely gashed teams on the ground the past two seasons.
And like you said. We shut them down like we should. Pretty much a cakewalk save for some poor quarterback play.
On defense the team simply plays better when Holland is off the field. They're more aggressive. I've come to the conclusion that it's almost like me playing golf. The more I think the worse I play. Jake seems to be trying to think a lot. When he's off the field there seems to be less thinking and more playing the game. Once we stopped being tentative and just got after it, we shut them entirely down. Where was the running game that was going to rack up 400 yards on us?
Perhaps that's his problem. I think he has more to do with being too small, too slow, and too weak.
South Carolina losing was bad for the SEC. Tennessee is the only team in the East without a loss now.
I didn't think Gurley was all that. Looked average to me.
Screw the SEC. Let them get goat aids. I hope Tennessee loses too. If it ain't Auburn, then let em all lose.
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Lattimore doesn't have to be game planned anymore. South Carolina is still good enough to carry only one loss thoughout, IMO. Florida depending too heavily on Trey Burton. Tennessee's schedule is flat-out intimidating.
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Auburn is in shape-that's what sticks out to me.
Names like Delaine and Owens were merely roster fillers until recently. Skies the limit on these guys.
Frost suspension a abberation of the contact rule.
Without a regular go-to guy, Marshall needs a short dink and dump game to go with the deep threat, not just Prosch either. Think that will save his legs and protect him from some shots he might not have to endure. Long season.
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I saw some hard hitting from our D. Man, how I have missed that.
Our running game will provide many highlights this year.
I don't Marshall is that bad. Malzahn will get him in line.
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I saw some hard hitting from our D. Man, how I have missed that.
Our running game will provide many highlights this year.
I don't Marshall is that bad. Malzahn will get him in line.
I don't know that we can put up 31 ppg on average but I like our chances whenever we can hold the opposition to less than three TDs, especially with Parkey. IF Marshall can account for two TDs against one fuck up on the other team's end of the field I like our chances thus far. In some cases a pick 50 yards downfield is cool, depending on the circumstances but we need him to keep trying if only to keep 'em honest.
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I will never accept a world where Arkansas Flipping State is a "huge game" for Auburn. Ever.
Yeah it's their King Kong. It's their Godzilla.
But for us it's like a good 1A team showing up to play a 6A team. No matter how off that 6A team may be the 1A team should lose. And lose. And lose.
It's like LSU going to play the Buffalo Bills or Oakland Raiders. As good as LSU may be? Bills or Raiders win. Or should.
That's why their chirping pissed me off. They aren't in our league. They could be 40-0 in the Sunbelt over four years and still the ONLY SEC team they might threaten is Kentucky. Or possibly an Arkansas team that struggled with Samford.
It's a big game for them. And that's ok. Arkansas State will never be that to me. We would have beaten them last year too. Maybe not as easily but we would have.
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I will never accept a world where Arkansas Flipping State is a "huge game" for Auburn. Ever.
Yeah it's their King Kong. It's their Godzilla.
But for us it's like a good 1A team showing up to play a 6A team. No matter how off that 6A team may be the 1A team should lose. And lose. And lose.
It's like LSU going to play the Buffalo Bills or Oakland Raiders. As good as LSU may be? Bills or Raiders win. Or should.
That's why their chirping pissed me off. They aren't in our league. They could be 40-0 in the Sunbelt over four years and still the ONLY SEC team they might threaten is Kentucky. Or possibly an Arkansas team that struggled with Samford.
It's a big game for them. And that's ok. Arkansas State will never be that to me. We would have beaten them last year too. Maybe not as easily but we would have.
I do agree with you K, don't get me wrong but I do think this was a huge win for Auburn. Not so much as concerning who Auburn beat but more of how Auburn beat them. I'm seeing a rekindled fire in a D that has been lacking such for a while now. I'm seeing a fire in the coaching that has been missing for a while now. I'm seeing a potent running game that Auburn is known for that has been missing for a while now. This brings hope.
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I will never accept a world where Arkansas Flipping State is a "huge game" for Auburn. Ever.
Yeah it's their King Kong. It's their Godzilla.
But for us it's like a good 1A team showing up to play a 6A team. No matter how off that 6A team may be the 1A team should lose. And lose. And lose.
It's like LSU going to play the Buffalo Bills or Oakland Raiders. As good as LSU may be? Bills or Raiders win. Or should.
That's why their chirping pissed me off. They aren't in our league. They could be 40-0 in the Sunbelt over four years and still the ONLY SEC team they might threaten is Kentucky. Or possibly an Arkansas team that struggled with Samford.
It's a big game for them. And that's ok. Arkansas State will never be that to me. We would have beaten them last year too. Maybe not as easily but we would have.
Whether you accept it or not, that's where we are. The win and the body language of the team signaled to me a dramatic culture change from the steaming pile that was dumped in our collective laps last season.
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I do agree with you K, don't get me wrong but I do think this was a huge win for Auburn. Not so much as concerning who Auburn beat but more of how Auburn beat them. I'm seeing a rekindled fire in a D that has been lacking such for a while now. I'm seeing a fire in the coaching that has been missing for a while now. I'm seeing a potent running game that Auburn is known for that has been missing for a while now. This brings hope.
^^^This^^^
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Whether you accept it or not, that's where we are. The win and the body language of the team signaled to me a dramatic culture change from the steaming pile that was dumped in our collective laps last season.
What this guy said ^^
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Whether you accept it or not, that's where we are. The win and the body language of the team signaled to me a dramatic culture change from the steaming pile that was dumped in our collective laps last season.
EXACTLY.
LSU crushed the kids's collective psych last year. The ASU win has had the opposite effect. The importance of this blowout win can't be overstated. The game is 90% mental ...
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This game was a quantum leap forward for each unit (except special teams, because they really don't have that much room for improvement).
I felt that the Special Teams took a step back. A shanked punt and a really good kickoff return by ASU (McKissic took the Kickoff 9 yards deep and returned it to the 25). Hopefully that'll teach our kickoff unit that they need to assume the return man will bring it out, instead of assuming Parkey will kick it through the uprights.
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Whether you accept it or not, that's where we are. The win and the body language of the team signaled to me a dramatic culture change from the steaming pile that was dumped in our collective laps last season.
Exactly. Add in the obvious improvement in conditioning and the esteemed counselor is spot on.
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EXACTLY.
LSU crushed the kids's collective psych last year. The ASU win has had the opposite effect. The importance of this blowout win can't be overstated. The game is 90% mental ...
And the other half is physical?
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And the other half is physical?
Why yes, Mr. Berra, that is correct.
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Ya'll need to get up off the freaking mat.
Wins against any of the following teams will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever be considered "big" wins for Auburn:
Samford, Troy, Arkansas State, William and Mary, Citadel, Sister Pissant of the Poor, Eastern Washington, Sam Houston State, Texas Southern, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Tuskeegee, Alcorn State, Miles College, Tougaloo, etc.
Ever.
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Ya'll need to get up off the freaking mat.
Wins against any of the following teams will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever be considered "big" wins for Auburn:
Samford, Troy, Arkansas State, William and Mary, Citadel, Sister Pissant of the Poor, Eastern Washington, Sam Houston State, Texas Southern, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Tuskeegee, Alcorn State, Miles College, Tougaloo, etc.
Ever.
I agree if our analysis takes place in a vacuum. If, however, you take into account the actual context of the performance of the Tigers over the past few years, then you have to recognize that this win was important.
If you can't see that, then you're just being contrary for the fucking sake of doing so.
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I agree if our analysis takes place in a vacuum. If, however, you take into account the actual context of the performance of the Tigers over the past few years, then you have to recognize that this win was important.
If you can't see that, then you're just being contrary for the fudgeing sake of doing so.
Nope. Not being contrary.
There is no circumstance under which I ever would consider an Auburn win over Arkansas State anything other than expected. It will never be "big" in my opinion.
That's not to say that there will be instances where an Arkansas State or a LA Monroe or a UAB could rise up and stun a bigger program like Auburn, but those instance should ALWAYS be considered major upsets. And by always, I mean every day of the week and four times on Saturday.
There should never be a situation where an Arkansas State is considered to be a legitimate threat to us. Or to any of the SEC's traditional powers -- LSU, Alabama, Georgia and to a lesser degree Tennessee and Florida. They can be threats to Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Vandy (most years) or Kentucky but should never be given any more consideration than a gnat for us REGARDLESS of how bad we may be playing.
This is a team that's in the same sphere as Texas State, South @#%$@&ing Alabama (which can completely bite my ass as I have never given less of a fart in a warm breeze about a team than I do the "jags"), Georgia State, La-Laff.
I'm simply glad we proved that they are what I thought they were. Not a "strong test." Not an "upset contender." Not an "equal."
No. A pissant, podunk nothing to be scraped off like dirty gum on the bottom of a shoe. And I'm glad we scraped them.
The constant stream of talking heads babbling about a cracker jack box team and propping them up like they had a shot against a former heavyweight champion? No, no, no, no and no. I told all of you that before the game. No threat. Butt kicking coming.
I was disgusted that we bought into that defeatist mindset, that some even expected a tough game or a real fight. PFFFT. I figured we'd hang 50 on them. And if we weren't quite so green we would have. I figured we'd limit them to 17 or less. And we did.
I'd have expected about the same last year. Wouldn't have gotten it, but at our VERY worst we would have beaten that team at its absolute zenith 19 out of 20 times (or 103.495% of the time). That is a truth.
That's not contrary at all.
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Nope. Not being contrary.
There is no circumstance under which I ever would consider an Auburn win over Arkansas State anything other than expected. It will never be "big" in my opinion.
That's not to say that there will be instances where an Arkansas State or a LA Monroe or a UAB could rise up and stun a bigger program like Auburn, but those instance should ALWAYS be considered major upsets. And by always, I mean every day of the week and four times on Saturday.
There should never be a situation where an Arkansas State is considered to be a legitimate threat to us. Or to any of the SEC's traditional powers -- LSU, Alabama, Georgia and to a lesser degree Tennessee and Florida. They can be threats to Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Vandy (most years) or Kentucky but should never be given any more consideration than a gnat for us REGARDLESS of how bad we may be playing.
This is a team that's in the same sphere as Texas State, South @#%$@&ing Alabama (which can completely bite my ass as I have never given less of a fart in a warm breeze about a team than I do the "jags"), Georgia State, La-Laff.
I'm simply glad we proved that they are what I thought they were. Not a "strong test." Not an "upset contender." Not an "equal."
No. A pissant, podunk nothing to be scraped off like dirty gum on the bottom of a shoe. And I'm glad we scraped them.
The constant stream of talking heads babbling about a cracker jack box team and propping them up like they had a shot against a former heavyweight champion? No, no, no, no and no. I told all of you that before the game. No threat. Butt kicking coming.
I was disgusted that we bought into that defeatist mindset, that some even expected a tough game or a real fight. PFFFT. I figured we'd hang 50 on them. And if we weren't quite so green we would have. I figured we'd limit them to 17 or less. And we did.
I'd have expected about the same last year. Wouldn't have gotten it, but at our VERY worst we would have beaten that team at its absolute zenith 19 out of 20 times (or 103.495% of the time). That is a truth.
That's not contrary at all.
Then with this said, it is obvious you have missed the point being made. Again, the "big win" was not as much to do with who Auburn played.
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Nope. Not being contrary.
There is no circumstance under which I ever would consider an Auburn win over Arkansas State anything other than expected. It will never be "big" in my opinion.
You're doing a fucking number on that straw man, Rocky.
No one is disputing that, when all is right with Auburn football, ASU should be an easy out. However, given the anomalous garbage we saw last year, this win (be careful to read "win" and disregard the opponent) and the manner in which it was achieved were a big fucking deal.
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You're doing a fudgeing number on that straw man, Rocky.
No one is disputing that, when all is right with Auburn football, ASU should be an easy out. However, given the anomalous garbage we saw last year, this win (be careful to read "win" and disregard the opponent) and the manner in which it was achieved were a big fudgeing deal.
I don't see it that way. Because of who they are and because I think the same result would have been achieved last year.
But whatev. We swatted a fly. Celebrate as is your want.
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I don't see it that way. Because of who they are ...
Uh...
(be careful to read "win" and disregard the opponent)
Fuck it. It's a waste of time.
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Hey, we can be pretty good. We would be dangerous IF Nick could consistently hit a WIDE ASS OPEN receiver. He has a rifle but the barrel must be crooked. But man is he fast. I likes him.
Our running back play is much better and deeper than I expected. I have a feeling the same backs wouldn't get 100 yds combined under Loeffler.
Where has Justin Delaine been? We are looking stronger on the D front. Was this a "big" win? Depends on what your definition of "big" is. I tend to agree with Wes in that coming off of last season, I'm saying it was a big win in that we needed those stops on D and we needed to roll up those kind of numbers on O in order to build confidence and improve. Big in that sense.
A win against a big time opponent, no. But I'm proud of it just that same.
I'm only asking for a bowl game but I'm beginning to think that if Nick can settle in and start hitting open guys more consistently, we gotta shot to knock one or two of the big boys down.
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It is not a BIG win. It is huge for the team's psyche.
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It is not a BIG win. It is huge for the team's psyche.
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Uh...
fudge it. It's a waste of time.
You're asking me to suspend reason and embrace three letters regardless of how it's achieved.
I can't attribute "bigness" to this win any more than I'd celebrate the bigness of an Auburn win over Samford or South Alabama or Hoover or Greene County or South Lamar.
A win isn't a win. It's all relative to the quality. Beating this team is something 2012 Auburn would have done. It's something every team in the SEC with one or two exceptions would have done. We can't be in a place where we consider this big in any respects. Call it a relief if you will, but big? Never in my book.
Glad we took care of business, but I'm simply not willing to break out the confetti over not getting upset by a team that isn't on our level -- even at our worst. Others may party as they see fit.
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You're asking me to suspend reason and embrace three letters regardless of how it's achieved.
I can't attribute "bigness" to this win any more than I'd celebrate the bigness of an Auburn win over Samford or South Alabama or Hoover or Greene County or South Lamar.
A win isn't a win. It's all relative to the quality. Beating this team is something 2012 Auburn would have done. It's something every team in the SEC with one or two exceptions would have done. We can't be in a place where we consider this big in any respects. Call it a relief if you will, but big? Never in my book.
Glad we took care of business, but I'm simply not willing to break out the confetti over not getting upset by a team that isn't on our level -- even at our worst. Others may party as they see fit.
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I doubt that the 2012 team would've been able to beat this year's ASU team and I seriously doubt they would've been able to beat last year's ASU team. Remember, last year's Auburn team had to go into Overtime to beat Louisiana Monroe (that was before the team quit on the coaching staff).
The "WIN" was big and Arkansas State is far from a push over, yes you read that correctly. ASU could beat a few SEC teams this year if they played them.
Also, winning is contagious just as much as losing is.
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I doubt that the 2012 team would've been able to beat this year's ASU team and I seriously doubt they would've been able to beat last year's ASU team. Remember, last year's Auburn team had to go into Overtime to beat Louisiana Monroe (that was before the team quit on the coaching staff).
Beat me to it. Kaos must be stoned out of his mind for repeatedly stating that last year's Auburn would assuredly have had the "same result" against a team that beat La Monroe 45-23, who we were lucky to beat in overtime before it all came tumbling down last year.
"They're so fast" world-beaters Oregon only beat them by 23 last year.
A 38-9 win over a Sunbelt champion who won their bowl game is what we should expect from a healthy, average to better-than-average Auburn team.
Which is exactly the point. There is reason to celebrate us being a healthy, average to better-than-average Auburn team. One year removed from being the worst team of my entire lifetime.
Lighten up, Francis.
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I'll show you bitches something BIG, so you'll understand.
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Which is exactly the point. There is reason to celebrate us being a healthy, average to better-than-average Auburn team. One year removed from being the worst team of my entire lifetime.
See, it doesn't matter how you put Chizad, this point right here K seems to be missing all together.
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Nope. Not being contrary.
There is no circumstance under which I ever would consider an Auburn win over Arkansas State anything other than expected. It will never be "big" in my opinion.
That's not to say that there will be instances where an Arkansas State or a LA Monroe or a UAB could rise up and stun a bigger program like Auburn, but those instance should ALWAYS be considered major upsets. And by always, I mean every day of the week and four times on Saturday.
There should never be a situation where an Arkansas State is considered to be a legitimate threat to us. Or to any of the SEC's traditional powers -- LSU, Alabama, Georgia and to a lesser degree Tennessee and Florida. They can be threats to Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Vandy (most years) or Kentucky but should never be given any more consideration than a gnat for us REGARDLESS of how bad we may be playing.
This is a team that's in the same sphere as Texas State, South @#%$@&ing Alabama (which can completely bite my ass as I have never given less of a fart in a warm breeze about a team than I do the "jags"), Georgia State, La-Laff.
I'm simply glad we proved that they are what I thought they were. Not a "strong test." Not an "upset contender." Not an "equal."
No. A pissant, podunk nothing to be scraped off like dirty gum on the bottom of a shoe. And I'm glad we scraped them.
The constant stream of talking heads babbling about a cracker jack box team and propping them up like they had a shot against a former heavyweight champion? No, no, no, no and no. I told all of you that before the game. No threat. Butt kicking coming.
I was disgusted that we bought into that defeatist mindset, that some even expected a tough game or a real fight. PFFFT. I figured we'd hang 50 on them. And if we weren't quite so green we would have. I figured we'd limit them to 17 or less. And we did.
I'd have expected about the same last year. Wouldn't have gotten it, but at our VERY worst we would have beaten that team at its absolute zenith 19 out of 20 times (or 103.495% of the time). That is a truth.
That's not contrary at all.
We also SHOULD never be 3-9 and winless in the SEC but we were. We hit rock bottom like we hadn't in most of our lifetimes. It is what it is. People are just excited to have a team win games with sound fundamentals and win games period. That's how low we were last year.
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You're asking me to suspend reason and embrace three letters regardless of how it's achieved.
I can't attribute "bigness" to this win any more than I'd celebrate the bigness of an Auburn win over Samford or South Alabama or Hoover or Greene County or South Lamar.
A win isn't a win. It's all relative to the quality. Beating this team is something 2012 Auburn would have done. It's something every team in the SEC with one or two exceptions would have done. We can't be in a place where we consider this big in any respects. Call it a relief if you will, but big? Never in my book.
Glad we took care of business, but I'm simply not willing to break out the confetti over not getting upset by a team that isn't on our level -- even at our worst. Others may party as they see fit.
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I'd say there were a few teams last year we should've swatted but didn't. This team did. That's the point. We beat who should have. Last year we did not. People are glad to be back to the point where we beat less talented teams. Sad as it is, it's the low that we were at.
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I'd say there were a few teams last year we should've swatted but didn't. This team did. That's the point. We beat who should have. Last year we did not. People are glad to be back to the point where we beat less talented teams. Sad as it is, it's the low that we were at.
And are no longer at.
That was my point. We were the bottom dweller. No longer.
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And are no longer at.
That was my point. We were the bottom dweller. No longer.
See? This is where I differ. We beat Aunt Tillie's Pie Baking School for Mimes.
So what? It doesn't signal anything. It's not an indicator of or a harbinger for anything at all. We shouldn't look at it as anything but doing what had to be done.
Oh holy hell!! This is Arkansas Freaking STATE!!! They beat Louisiana Freaking Monroe last year!!! They beat the snot out of a 3A High School team with six starters suspended!!!!!! Quake in terror!!!!
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
You are selling everything Auburn short if you don't think that the worst team in my lifetime would STILL have beaten the Arkansas States of the world.
It's no different than last year's team trashing Alabama A&M Technical State.
That's why Doug Barfield should have been fired when Auburn lost to Baylor, Memphis and Arizona in his first season. It was obvious he couldn't cut it.
In Dye's worst year we killed Samford and Vandy. Had a close call against La. Somebody when it became clear that he was not going to survive the year.
In Bowden's worst year, we hammered La. Tech, the only real cupcake we faced.
In Tuberville's worst year we beat La. Monroe, Southern Miss and UT Martin convincingly.
Last year we slept through La. Monroe but could have tromped them. And destroyed Alabama A&M and NM State.
You can prop this weak little Sunbelt sister up all you want, but that's who they are. They are simply another version of UT Martin sprinkled with "team of the moment" media dust.
You're making them -- and this win -- out to be something it's not.
Accept it or don't, but Arkansas State doesn't beat Auburn. Ever. Unless it's a monumental upset and there are mitigating factors. Anything else is rationalization.
And now I'm done. Party on.
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So did you fuckers decide if I am suppose to be happy we won or not?
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So did you fudgeers decide if I am suppose to be happy we won or not?
Well, yeah.
Always happy to win. That wasn't at issue.
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So did you fuckers decide if I am suppose to be happy we won or not?
well, just one fucker.
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"They're so fast" world-beaters Oregon only beat them by 23 last year.
hmmmm...yeah. ok. oregon would have hung more if they hadn't pulled in the 2nd string signal caller starting the 2nd half. u of o was up by 28 in the first quarter. then scored 3 more TD's in a six minute time span in the second quarter.
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hmmmm...yeah. ok. oregon would have hung more if they hadn't pulled in the 2nd string signal caller starting the 2nd half. u of o was up by 28 in the first quarter. then scored 3 more TD's in a six minute time span in the second quarter.
Don't you DARE!!! They are Arkansas State!!!!!!!!!!!! They would beat like 83.7% of all teams! They beat Louisiana Monroe, darn you. You better recognize.
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In Bowden's worst year, we hammered La. Tech, the only real cupcake we faced.
We also beat UCF with an All-Pro NFL QB running their offense.
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All you haters will look like complete idiots if Arkansas State wins the SEC this year.
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All you haters will look like complete idiots if Arkansas State wins the SEC this year.
They won it last year.
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They won it last year.
Oh.
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Oh.
Reloading
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We also beat UCF with an All-Pro NFL QB running their offense.
See I barely recall these type of wins over a team with Culpepper. But mention Reggie Ball or Joe Fucking Cox etc...
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Don't you DARE!!! They are Arkansas State!!!!!!!!!!!! They would beat like 83.7% of all teams! They beat Louisiana Monroe, darn you. You better recognize.
Did you even hear the point that everyone not named kaos is making as it sailed miles above your head?
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I and everyone here understands what you're saying Kaos. When Auburn was good to really good, curb stomping ASU shouldn't really get the fans all excited, because that's what was suppose to happen...but, it was mentioned earlier, Auburn was one of the worst teams in ALL of D1 Football last year and The worst team I've ever seen (y'all older guys might've seen worse). But, for us to be that horrible, we have learn how to walk before we can run and each win is another baby step (btw, the first two steps were decent sized steps). WSU and ASU are decent teams, they're not push overs or cakewalk teams, WSU already somewhat proved that last Saturday.
Again, yes Auburn should trounce teams like WSU & ASU, but that was past Auburn teams.
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Did you even hear the point that everyone not named kaos is making as it sailed miles above your head?
There was no point. Whatsoever.
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I and everyone here understands what you're saying Kaos. When Auburn was good to really good, curb stomping ASU shouldn't really get the fans all excited, because that's what was suppose to happen...but, it was mentioned earlier, Auburn was one of the worst teams in ALL of D1 Football last year and The worst team I've ever seen (y'all older guys might've seen worse). But, for us to be that horrible, we have learn how to walk before we can run and each win is another baby step (btw, the first two steps were decent sized steps). WSU and ASU are decent teams, they're not push overs or cakewalk teams, WSU already somewhat proved that last Saturday.
Again, yes Auburn should trounce teams like WSU & ASU, but that was past Auburn teams.
Again. Disagree.
Even at our worst, even last year (the worst AU team I've ever seen) we beat ASU. Bank that. And move on.
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Did you even hear the point that everyone not named kaos is making as it sailed miles above your head?
There is only one time in 5 years I can recall K ever admit he was wrong. This will not be his second in 10.
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There is only one time in 5 years I can recall K ever admit he was wrong. This will not be his second in 10.
I'm not saying he's wrong. We're talking past each other, arguing two entirely different points...and I AGREE with his.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. We're talking past each other, arguing two entirely different points...and I AGREE with his.
You're no fun.
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You're no fun.
Oh yes he is. Just ask that little whore in Tijuana.
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Oh yes he is. Just ask that little whore in Tijuana.
Best $5 I ever spent. Still have the occasional flare up as a souvenir.
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Best $5 I ever spent. Still have the occasional flare up as a souvenir.
Unless you are in NOLA or Vegas, please stick to the fatties. Big girls gotta eat.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. We're talking past each other, arguing two entirely different points...and I AGREE with his.
Agree except stating with confidence that last year's AU would trounce last year's ASU.
While technically an unprovable hypothetical, it's as asinine as saying this year's Auburn would beat the Denver Broncos.
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We don't know where Auburn is now for sure. I agree with those that see certain improvements in areas that can be coached. Discipline, conditioning, technique, etc. We still lack talent in certain KEY areas, Linebacker, QB for instance, and we've beaten nobody yet. Don't care how good ASU was in the Sunbelt. Yes, they're a "good football team". But they're Sunbelt good. Well coached, but Sunbelt talent. We'll see how good this vaunted Auburn run game is against a better, though not SEC Elite level defense this week. MSU may be so bad on offense that they make our defense look good, including Holland. IMHO, best thing that can be said thus far, is that at least Auburn is able to win games they should win on their worst day, and not look hapless doing it.
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Again. Disagree.
Even at our worst, even last year (the worst AU team I've ever seen) we beat ASU. Bank that. And move on.
No way (ok not NO way but definitely 99.99% of the way) one Eugene Chizik, in all his cattle-less glory, out coaches Gus in that matchup.
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No way (ok not NO way but definitely 99.99% of the way) one Eugene Chizik, in all his cattle-less glory, out coaches Gus in that matchup.
:facepalm:
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Again. Disagree.
Even at our worst, even last year (the worst AU team I've ever seen) we beat ASU. Bank that. And move on.
Did you pay any attention to last year's team? Did you watch the ULM game? ASU's team this year and last year is/was better than that team...actually good bit better last year. You might want to consider changing banks.
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Fuck I can't believe we lost to Arkansas State...gee I hope we can hang with Mississipi State this week.
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Sorry Godfather State hangs 49 on us this weekend and we start the year 0-3.
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Fuck I can't believe we lost to Arkansas State...gee I hope we can hang with Mississipi State this week.
it was a moral victory.
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it was a moral victory.
I thought it was a big win. Who were we talking about?
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I thought it was a big win. Who were we talking about?
Suwanee or maybe Gardner Webb, I forget.
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Suwanee or maybe Gardner Webb, I forget.
Regardless, I'm sure it was a big win. Like we had. We did decide it was a big win, didn't we?
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No way (ok not NO way but definitely 99.99% of the way) one Eugene Chizik, in all his cattle-less glory, out coaches Gus in that matchup.
Wouldn't have to. Better talent. Can't coach speed.
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Wouldn't have to. Better talent. Can't coach speed.
Can't coach high, hapless, helpless, undisciplined, out of shape...either.
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Can't coach high, hapless, helpless, undisciplined, out of shape...either.
This.
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Can't coach high, hapless, helpless, undisciplined, out of shape...either.
I mostly disagree except the high. We wond a BCS with a bunch of high players in 2010, no?
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Can't coach high, hapless, helpless, undisciplined, out of shape...either.
Ya'll need to get your heads right. ASU doesn't beat Auburn ever. Not last year, not this year, not in 1979, not in 1998, not in 2008. Not ever. Our worst day, their best day. It doesn't happen.
Well, okay it could. But it wouldn't 99.97490% of the time. It would take a fluke miracle and special circumstances, not just a record disparity. Last year's AU team goes 10-2 with ASU's schedule. That's just the reality.
It's offensive to me to consider anything else. It's why their chirping pissed me off. I KNEW better -- and was right. When all ya'll were worrying about just winning or winning by a TD or less I said we'd thump their butts. Me. The guy who worries about everything, the guy who is always cautious. I told you we'd bludgeon them. Because it's what real teams do. And even as bad as we were last year, we were still a real team. ASU isn't and won't ever be.
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Ya'll need to get your heads right. ASU doesn't beat Auburn ever. Not last year, not this year, not in 1979, not in 1998, not in 2008. Not ever. Our worst day, their best day. It doesn't happen.
Well, okay it could. But it wouldn't 99.97490% of the time. It would take a fluke miracle and special circumstances, not just a record disparity. Last year's AU team goes 10-2 with ASU's schedule. That's just the reality.
It's offensive to me to consider anything else. It's why their chirping pissed me off. I KNEW better -- and was right. When all ya'll were worrying about just winning or winning by a TD or less I said we'd thump their butts. Me. The guy who worries about everything, the guy who is always cautious. I told you we'd bludgeon them. Because it's what real teams do. And even as bad as we were last year, we were still a real team. ASU isn't and won't ever be.
So, you wanna play Troy or not? Stay on topic please.
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Ya'll need to get your heads right. ASU doesn't beat Auburn ever. Not last year, not this year, not in 1979, not in 1998, not in 2008. Not ever. Our worst day, their best day. It doesn't happen.
Well, okay it could. But it wouldn't 99.97490% of the time. It would take a fluke miracle and special circumstances, not just a record disparity. Last year's AU team goes 10-2 with ASU's schedule. That's just the reality.
It's offensive to me to consider anything else. It's why their chirping pissed me off. I KNEW better -- and was right. When all ya'll were worrying about just winning or winning by a TD or less I said we'd thump their butts. Me. The guy who worries about everything, the guy who is always cautious. I told you we'd bludgeon them. Because it's what real teams do. And even as bad as we were last year, we were still a real team. ASU isn't and won't ever be.
I said 3 + TDs and I still think we struggle this year. So nanny-nanny boo-boo
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Screw who we were playing, what I enjoyed most was that we showed improvement from one game to the next. We never did that last year at any point.
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Screw who we were playing, what I enjoyed most was that we showed improvement from one game to the next. We never did that last year at any point.
That's all I've been saying.
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Ya'll need to get your heads right. ASU doesn't beat Auburn ever. Not last year, not this year, not in 1979, not in 1998, not in 2008. Not ever. Our worst day, their best day. It doesn't happen.
That's how I felt too. Everybody keeps saying last years team would have lost. maybe the team at the end of the season. The one at the beginning of the season was still full of delusion.
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That's all I've been saying.
I know and when this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together!
I miss your musk...
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That's how I felt too. Everybody keeps saying last years team would have lost. maybe the team at the end of the season. The one at the beginning of the season was still full of delusion.
Then how, in your estimation, did it take a miracle to beat ULM in overtime by a field goal in week 3? You know, the team that lost to Arkansas State 45-23, and also LA-Lafayette 40-24. Arkansas State beat ULL 50-27.
In other words, they weren't even a good Sunbelt team and we won by the narrowest of possible margins.
The Sunbelt champions would certainly have beaten us. There is a 0.000000% chance we would have beaten them by as many points as we did this year. It is as much a fact as the sun will rise in the morning.
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Then how, in your estimation, did it take a miracle to beat ULM in overtime by a field goal in week 3? You know, the team that lost to Arkansas State 45-23, and also LA-Lafayette 40-24.
In other words, they weren't even a good Sunbelt team and we won by the narrowest of possible margins.
The Sunbelt champions would certainly have beaten us. There is a 0.000000% chance we would have beaten them by as many points as we did this year. It is as much a fact as the sun will rise in the morning.
But they still won. They didn't lay down and grab their balls until after the Clemson beatdown (and the delusion was gone). So how do you explain that they still won?
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Then how, in your estimation, did it take a miracle to beat ULM in overtime by a field goal in week 3? You know, the team that lost to Arkansas State 45-23, and also LA-Lafayette 40-24. Arkansas State beat ULL 50-27.
In other words, they weren't even a good Sunbelt team and we won by the narrowest of possible margins.
The Sunbelt champions would certainly have beaten us. There is a 0.000000% chance we would have beaten them by as many points as we did this year. It is as much a fact as the sun will rise in the morning.
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Anyone claiming that last year's team would have beaten Arkansas State simply because Auburn is Auburn and Arkansas State is Arkansas State is suffering a Bammerism. For other examples of Bammerisms, see Alabama fans' reactions to the 2003 season, the 2nd half of the Iron Bowl in 2004, the 2nd half of the Iron Bowl in 2005, or the entire Mike Shula tenure.
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Fun Fact: 2010 Auburn, the best Auburn team since at least 2004, and the only National Champions of my lifetime, beat Arkansas State by 30 points, 56-26. That was before Harsin, Malzahn, or Freeze. They really were a nobody at that time.
We beat them 38-9 this time. 29 points.
To say that we would have the same or better result during the worst season in program history is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.
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Fun Fact: 2010 Auburn, the best Auburn team since at least 2004, and the only National Champions of my lifetime, beat Arkansas State by 30 points, 56-26. That was before Harsin, Malzahn, or Freeze. They really were a nobody at that time.
We beat them 38-9 this time. 29 points.
To say that we would have the same or better result during the worst season in program history is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.
I only said they would win. RIF
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Screw who we were playing, what I enjoyed most was that we showed improvement from one game to the next. We never did that last year at any point.
If we'd played Alabama A&M after falling to Clemson what would you have said then?
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If we'd played Alabama A&M after falling to Clemson what would you have said then?
I'm not so sure we would have shown improvement last year.
Besides you said Washington State was a horrible team too, so we showed improvement over two horrible teams.
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I'm just glad I don't 99% should bumps when the AU D is trying to freakn tackle somebody. This year, I'm seeing some poppin and gang tackling going on.
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That's all I've been saying.
As have most my friend.
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I only said they would win. RIF
This was for you (hence the quote function), with a little bit for Kaos sprinkled in.
Then how, in your estimation, did it take a miracle to beat ULM in overtime by a field goal in week 3? You know, the team that lost to Arkansas State 45-23, and also LA-Lafayette 40-24. Arkansas State beat ULL 50-27.
In other words, they weren't even a good Sunbelt team and we won by the narrowest of possible margins.
The Sunbelt champions would certainly have beaten us. There is a 0.000000% chance we would have beaten them by as many points as we did this year. It is as much a fact as the sun will rise in the morning.
This was for Kaos. Hence no quote function.
Fun Fact: 2010 Auburn, the best Auburn team since at least 2004, and the only National Champions of my lifetime, beat Arkansas State by 30 points, 56-26. That was before Harsin, Malzahn, or Freeze. They really were a nobody at that time.
We beat them 38-9 this time. 29 points.
To say that we would have the same or better result during the worst season in program history is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.
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I don't do quote functions. They are before my time!
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WSU and ASU. About equal talent IMO. One came straight at AU for the most part while the other flung it all over the field. Decent ball clubs capable of beating a lot of teams on any given night. So, good tests for a team coming off the most shittastic of fail seasons.
Against WSU, we had to (And did) fight til the final bell. Made enough plays on D and special teams to win, with a great night from Corey Grant. This past Saturday, got stronger on D as the night went on to the point that we owned them in the 4th. The offense was much more balanced with Marshall playing better, 3 backs contributing and a bunch of receivers getting touches.
We improved from week 1 to week 2. I'm still happiest to see us competing with a little of the old swagger back. (Can you still say swagger?)
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I'm still happiest to see us competing with a little of the old swagger back. (Can you still say swagger?)
I think you have to say swagga...with an a, not an er...
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I think you have to say swagga...with an a, not an er...
It's cool: Snags has a swag friend.
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I think you have to say swagga...with an a, not an er...
My surra
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Just wondering since nobody mentioned.
Missouri 41 ASU 19
"Big win for the zoos?"
Should be noted that ASU was up 16-14 in the third before Miss-zoo went nuts. Should also be noted that Misszoo was throwing passes with two minutes left to pad the score.
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Just wondering since nobody mentioned.
Missouri 41 ASU 19
"Big win for the zoos?"
Should be noted that ASU was up 16-14 in the third before Miss-zoo went nuts. Should also be noted that Misszoo was throwing passes with two minutes left to pad the score.
in week 2?
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in week 2?
It was moved into the past for us old folks.