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Title: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on June 03, 2011, 04:55:19 PM
Staples ranks best CFB jobs.

1. Texas

Auburn came in #9 and #5 in SEC.

Edit: Add link...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/06/03/best-college-football-jobs/index.html

Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Aubie16 on June 04, 2011, 07:11:33 AM
My Top 10:

1. Texas
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Ohio State
5. LSU
6. Oklahoma
7. Alabama
8. Georgia
9. Auburn
10. Florida State
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: JR4AU on June 04, 2011, 09:04:09 AM
Bammers are typing out their death threat emails now.  Shame on Staples for not making them #1 and listing them in essentially a tie with Auburn. 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: jmar on June 05, 2011, 06:09:03 AM
Bammers are typing out their death threat emails now.  Shame on Staples for not making them #1 and listing them in essentially a tie with Auburn.
That's a damn good list Aubie16.
JR it is amazing to me how Auburn can size-up next to programs like those above along with Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska with all of their advantages.
But I suppose we will all know the answer to this mystery when the hammer finally drops.

 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: JR4AU on June 05, 2011, 11:36:53 AM

JR it is amazing to me how Auburn can size-up next to programs like those above along with Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska with all of their advantages.


It's not to me, not one bit. 

We Auburn folks are so inundated with tales of numerous championships pulled right out of some history revisionist's ass in the early 80s that it's hard for even real Auburn folks to know the truth. 

We are constantly told that the Alabama program today, and of the past 30 years is still defined by a 25 year span of Alabama football that ended 30 years ago. 

Despite the fact that 30 years is a bigger percentage of time than 25 years of the 120 years each program has been in existence, according to bammers and their local media 1958-1982 is still more important in defining the programs than the most recent 30 year span in which Auburn leads Alabama in every single category but one....NCs.  In that, they lead 2-1, which is hardly dominance considering the whole picture.  And even from 1958-1982, when Alabama dominated college football, Auburn still maintained a top 15 football program, which isn't bad considering the circumstances.   

The only advantage the likes of PSU, Nebraska, Mich, Okla., etc have, is that none of them have an instate program that is truly a toe to toe competitor, or a local media that is aligned with that competitor.  Each gets the pick of the litter of instate recruits.  And they don't compete in the SEC.  The closest situation to ours is Tx and TA&M, but A&M has been down for for about a decade now, and still they are only a top 25 program lifetime, not top 15.  I would guess based on what I know too, that A&M's status as "little brother" is far more real than ours is based on number of alum and supporters in the state of Tx.  TW or our other Tx members may have a different view on that.   

No, doesn't surprise me at all.  The perceptions of the programs are greatly skewed by how the local media tells the stories.  The numbers tell a completely different story.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: AUChizad on June 05, 2011, 11:45:06 AM
Which is why this quote from the article irked me.

Quote
Auburn falls below the dead-heat SEC quartet above for one reason. Because the Tigers historically are the Red Sox to Alabama's Yankees, the Crimson Tide have the initial edge in most in-state recruiting fights.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: JR4AU on June 05, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
Which is why this quote from the article irked me.

One major difference in the Yankees and bammer.  Love 'em or hate 'em, the Yankees didn't have to pull half their championships out of their ass to fabricate their "history". 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: jmar on June 05, 2011, 12:16:07 PM
It's not to me, not one bit. 

We Auburn folks are so inundated with tales of numerous championships pulled right out of some history revisionist's ass in the early 80s that it's hard for even real Auburn folks to know the truth. 

We are constantly told that the Alabama program today, and of the past 30 years is still defined by a 25 year span of Alabama football that ended 30 years ago. 

Despite the fact that 30 years is a bigger percentage of time than 25 years of the 120 years each program has been in existence, according to bammers and their local media 1958-1982 is still more important in defining the programs than the most recent 30 year span in which Auburn leads Alabama in every single category but one....NCs.  In that, they lead 2-1, which is hardly dominance considering the whole picture.  And even from 1958-1982, when Alabama dominated college football, Auburn still maintained a top 15 football program, which isn't bad considering the circumstances.   

The only advantage the likes of PSU, Nebraska, Mich, Okla., etc have, is that none of them have an instate program that is truly a toe to toe competitor, or a local media that is aligned with that competitor.  Each gets the pick of the litter of instate recruits.  And they don't compete in the SEC.  The closest situation to ours is Tx and TA&M, but A&M has been down for for about a decade now, and still they are only a top 25 program lifetime, not top 15.  I would guess based on what I know too, that A&M's status as "little brother" is far more real than ours is based on number of alum and supporters in the state of Tx.  TW or our other Tx members may have a different view on that.   

No, doesn't surprise me at all.  The perceptions of the programs are greatly skewed by how the local media tells the stories.  The numbers tell a completely different story.
I didn't state that clearly but agree and was speaking strictly by size, locale and competition. 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: djsimp on June 05, 2011, 03:08:53 PM
Which is why this quote from the article irked me.

Yeah, it irks me too. We all know Tubbs pussy footed around with in-state cruiten but I dare this assclown to compare the cruiten results since Chizik has been here. It tells a different story and will tell a different story this year as well.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: DnATL on June 05, 2011, 03:16:54 PM
Which is why this quote from the article irked me.
Maybe the accuracy is in terms of relative payroll the Yankees exceed the Sox, and how the Yankees would unabashedly throw $200k at an over-rated DL 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: JR4AU on June 05, 2011, 03:54:59 PM
I was talking to a producer of the show 20/20 the other day about a case I have.  During the conversation she noted my proximity to Tuscaloosa, and asked had I seen it since the storm.  I told he no, that I didn't live there, and tried to avoid Tuscaloosa at all costs as I hated it.  She laughed.  Realizing she might take it wrong, and be all PC...I said, It's an Alabama/Auburn thing, I don't really hate Tuscaloosa (I was lying), and noted I had many friends there, and couple that lost everything in the tornado...that I had donated to recovery efforts, and just tried to stay out of the way..  She stopped me and said it was ok, she understood, knew a little about the rivalry, and said it was like a Yankees/Red Sox deal...New Yorkers hate Boston, and vice versa. 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2011, 09:33:15 AM
Florida is the #1 job in the country IMHO. Its gets the nod over Texas for location. Texas a close 2nd though. Hate to admit it, but Bama is and will always be a top 5-7 job due to their fan support/obsession. UGA?? I just don't understand the appeal with a school that has underachieved with all it has at its disposal.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: JR4AU on June 06, 2011, 10:20:10 AM
Florida is the #1 job in the country IMHO. Its gets the nod over Texas for location. Texas a close 2nd though. Hate to admit it, but Bama is and will always be a top 5-7 job due to their fan support/obsession. UGA?? I just don't understand the appeal with a school that has underachieved with all it has at its disposal.

For pure potential, UGA is as good a job as UF, but as you said, has underachieved.  Then again, UF was an also ran until 1990.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2011, 10:24:56 AM
For pure potential, UGA is as good a job as UF, but as you said, has underachieved.  Then again, UF was an also ran until 1990.

And has still done more in its history on a national level than UGA. And has had to compete with FSU, Miami, LSU, Bama and Auburn for recruits. UGA has the entire state (a very talent rich state at that) to itself. And even with a once in a decade kind of player like AJ Green, they still produce 6-7 getting plastered by Central Florida...That job is not desirable to me. I'm all for the SEC but would oh-so-love the mutts to get waxed by Boise.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: JR4AU on June 06, 2011, 10:40:20 AM
And has still done more in its history on a national level than UGA. And has had to compete with FSU, Miami, LSU, Bama and Auburn for recruits. UGA has the entire state (a very talent rich state at that) to itself. And even with a once in a decade kind of player like AJ Green, they still produce 6-7 getting plastered by Central Florida...That job is not desirable to me. I'm all for the SEC but would oh-so-love the mutts to get waxed by Boise.

UGA is the great conundrum in college football to me.  Can't explain why they aren't now, and never have been on the level UF currently is.   With the State of GA, and bordering FL, they should have 50 NCs at UGA.

Even with the competition in FL, there's still more than enough to go around. 
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: AUChizad on June 06, 2011, 10:51:27 AM
I'm all for the SEC but would oh-so-love the mutts to get waxed by Boise.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K9BDoB9vUsc/S9-jbyTK7jI/AAAAAAAAA0c/-qWpLEBMlNM/s200/Get+Carried+Away.jpg)
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2011, 10:57:43 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K9BDoB9vUsc/S9-jbyTK7jI/AAAAAAAAA0c/-qWpLEBMlNM/s200/Get+Carried+Away.jpg)

I take it you've never lived in GA and been around that bunch.

I'm right on the state line. I have to deal with more of them than any other fanbase. They are like Bama except that they don't win as much and have this weird inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Aubie16 on June 06, 2011, 11:01:10 AM
Gotta agree with GH2001 here. I've lived in Georgia for my entire life with the exception of the 6 years I spent in Auburn. (4 for school, 2 working).

I hope Boise plasters them between the hedges. Especially after all the whining UGA did this season about Auburn.

They aren't anywhere near bammer in terms of my hate, but they are a clear #2.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
Gotta agree with GH2001 here. I've lived in Georgia for my entire life with the exception of the 6 years I spent in Auburn. (4 for school, 2 working).

I hope Boise plasters them between the hedges. Especially after all the whining UGA did this season about Auburn.

They aren't anywhere near bammer in terms of my hate, but they are a clear #2.

Seriously though, UGA just got plastered by Central Florida in their bowl. I doubt losing to Boise will hurt the SEC's reputuation anymore via UGA.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 11:33:40 AM
I know I'm different than a lot of people in that I don't really give a rip about the SEC's "reputation".  This conference always has been and always will be one of, if not the best conference in the nation.  It's cyclical and right now, the SEC is king of the castle.  Has been for years.  But when it comes to teams on our schedule....I hope they suck.  I hope Boise ass rapes the dawgs.  Probably won't happen but I want UGA to be 4-8.  I want Joe Pa and his bunch to kick the Tahd in the nuttz for 4 quarters.  I hope WVU skull fux Les Miles and his bunch. 

I'll usually pull for SEC teams in their bowl games because I think that's where a lot of the reputation comes in.  As for the regular season and the teams we play.  Screw em'.   
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: AUChizad on June 06, 2011, 12:25:05 PM
Yeah...but Boise state?

You guys really want the ESPN talking heads using that as evidence that Boise State > The Entire SEC, should have been in the MNC last year, etc. etc.?

You know we'll have to hear Herbstreit et al blab about how Boise is the greatest dynasty in CFB, and could destroy any SEC team they so choose, and should no doubt get to play for the MNC.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 12:33:13 PM
Yeah...but Boise state?

You guys really want the ESPN talking heads using that as evidence that Boise State > The Entire SEC, should have been in the MNC last year, etc. etc.?

You know we'll have to hear Herbstreit et al blab about how Boise is the greatest dynasty in CFB, and could destroy any SEC team they so choose, and should no doubt get to play for the MNC.

Have to admit...I really don't want this to happen.  Wasn't thinking straight.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: djsimp on June 06, 2011, 01:39:22 PM
Have to admit...I really don't want this to happen.  Wasn't thinking straight.

I'm right there witcha. Whats sad is that Chizad is absolutely correct on the response folks like Herbie would give to a Boise beat down of the puppies. I think its comparable to last years Oregon/Vol result. These talking heads have already elevated the Broncos to elite status, so a win over an SEC team like Georgia would pencil them into the BCSNC game.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 01:43:15 PM
Don't think this UGA team can do it but I recall the last time Boyzee matched up with the dawgs and it wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: djsimp on June 06, 2011, 01:47:16 PM
Don't think this UGA team can do it

No they can't because the Broncos have this guy.

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kellen+Moore+2010+Heisman+Trophy+Presentation+WEBTyfQwY67l.jpg)

He is a Jedi.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: AWK on June 06, 2011, 01:47:44 PM
Don't think this UGA team can do it but I recall the last time Boyzee matched up with the dawgs and it wasn't pretty.
BUT, but, but, Aaron Murray is the second coming of David Greene Matthew Stafford Hershel Walker.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 01:49:32 PM
BUT, but, but, Aaron Murray is the second coming of David Greene Matthew Stafford Hershel Walker.

Seriously....Aaron Murray???


Impact Johnson
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: AWK on June 06, 2011, 01:52:51 PM
Seriously....Aaron Murray???


Impact Johnson
He is the real fucking deal.  The only quarterback that has a chance to compete with him is Chris Relf, who we all know plays for the perennial title contending mighty Bulldogs of Mississippi State.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 01:59:14 PM
Wow, in looking around the SEC, the QB position really is in sad shape.  Looks like Garcia is getting his 7th last chance.  Auburn and Bama both replacing QB's.  Florida wound up playing about 4 guys last year at that position and all of the suxed.  Ole Miss has nada, MSU has a Relf..didn't UT play a Sims or something?  LSU has JJ coming back but many say the transfer, Mettzenberger, will probably beat him out.  And Vandy.....uh....yeah Vandy.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 02:08:49 PM
I forgot about Wilson at Arky.  He looked awesome against Neiko Torched.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: djsimp on June 06, 2011, 02:13:25 PM
I forgot about Wilson at Arky.  He looked awesome against Neiko Torched.

Yes he did but so did everyone else. Wilson I do think is pretty good QB though.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2011, 03:43:32 PM
Yeah...but Boise state?

You guys really want the ESPN talking heads using that as evidence that Boise State > The Entire SEC, should have been in the MNC last year, etc. etc.?

You know we'll have to hear Herbstreit et al blab about how Boise is the greatest dynasty in CFB, and could destroy any SEC team they so choose, and should no doubt get to play for the MNC.
Sure they will. We know that is a given Chizad. Just like when UNC lost half their team and hung with LSU for all 4 quarters. But who cares? We have the last 5 BCS MNC's. We gots the rings. Besides, its just UGA. They are not the measuring stick of the SEC. If Boise beats UGA, it does not mean that Boise = SEC. It just means they were able to hang with a mediocre SEC team on a given Saturday. Let Herbie say what he wants. He is going to do that anyway. I think he needs to worry more about the hammer falling on his beloved "THE" Ohio State University.
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2011, 03:48:09 PM
Hasn't Herbie excommunicated himself from tOSU family?
Title: Re: Best CFB coaching jobs
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2011, 03:53:45 PM
Hasn't Herbie excommunicated himself from tOSU family?

Until they win 11 games and/or BCS Bowl or MNC. Then he'll be a proud buckeye again.