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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Talon on April 14, 2009, 09:30:44 PM
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What say you?? I'm going to give Caudle my vote. He seemed to be a bit quicker with picking up the defense the few times I saw him. Burns didn't impress me last year regardless of the Franklin fiasco. Tyrick could be the surprise starter but I don't think so.
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What say you?? I'm going to give Caudle my vote. He seemed to be a bit quicker with picking up the defense the few times I saw him. Burns didn't impress me last year regardless of the Franklin fiasco. Tyrick could be the surprise starter but I don't think so.
Kobi. Deal with it.
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I'm going with Kodi right now. I may change my mind after this weekend's game. I think Caudle has been there long enough, regardless of the system, to prove he's capable of being the #1. If he's not by now...
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Looks like I need to remove a couple from the poll...
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/04/blog_photokodi_burns.html#more (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/04/blog_photokodi_burns.html#more)
Auburn coach Gene Chizik said Tuesday night that quarterbacks Neil Caudle and Kodi Burns will receive the majority of the snaps this week leading up to Saturday's A-Day Game.
Kodi Burns
That fits into the goal of offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn, who said last weekend that he wanted to cut the quarterback race from three to two. That means the odd man out -- at least temporarily -- is Barrett Trotter.
``We just decided to give more reps to Neil and Kodi. Really, that's the extent of it,'' said Chizik.
Chizik said he would not call either Caudle or Burns the starter.
``I wouldn't say that at all,'' he said. ``The decision being made is reps at this point.''
Chizik said Trotter is ``is not out'' of the race, but would receive fewer reps.
While the Auburn family focused on the quarterback race, Chizik said Tuesday's practice was really ``business as usual.''
The decision put Burns back in a familiar spot - under center and battling for a starting job.
``As a quarterback you definitely want to know,'' Burns said. ``As a guy that started a lot last year, you definitely want to know.''
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40% Caudle
30% Burns
15% Todd
10% Trotter
4% Rollison
1% Mosley
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I think Caudle has been there long enough, regardless of the system, to prove he's capable of being the #1. If he's not by now...
This.
Burns will be running the show on the first day of the season.
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I vote Burns. If he could get his head out of ass he has the talent to be a great QB. :bowl:
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I think we will be in for a LONG season if Burns is expected to lead us all year at QB. I think he is a HELL of an athlete, but an average QB at best...
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I think we will be in for a LONG season if Burns is expected to lead us all year at QB. I think he is a HELL of an athlete, but an average QB at best...
I agree. I really like the kid and I want to see him do good, but I still don't think he is ever going to be as good at QB as he is at being an athlete.
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Ok, after todays A-Day game I'm even more confident Caudle will be the starting quarterback. He looked better than Kodi to me. Most of his passes were pretty damn much on target. Kodi still looked a little confused.
Neal Caudle - 11-for-16, 161 yards, two touchdowns
Kodi Burns - 3-for-8, 48 yards
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I stand by my percentages after A-Day. Although neither one of them did anything at all to separate themselves.
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Ok, after todays A-Day game I'm even more confident Caudle will be the starting quarterback. He looked better than Kodi to me. Most of his passes were pretty damn much on target. Kodi still looked a little confused.
Neal Caudle - 11-for-16, 161 yards, two touchdowns
Kodi Burns - 3-for-8, 48 yards
Neil Caudle is head and shoulders above Kodi. Neil looked poised in the pocket with a left tackle that was getting blow up on every play, with zip on his passes. I was impressed with the way he ran the offense. Kodi looked the same as last year, happy feet, under throwing recievers, making one read and running for his life.
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Neil Caudle is head and shoulders above Kodi. Neil looked poised in the pocket with a left tackle that was getting blow up on every play, with zip on his passes. I was impressed with the way he ran the offense. Kodi looked the same as last year, happy feet, under throwing recievers, making one read and running for his life.
I Concur. Also, on Kodi's Long pass to Mario....It would've been Intercepted had it not been for Mario's Awesome athletic ability. Mario had to reach back and knock it outta the DB's hands, then he caught it on the deflection.
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I Concur. Also, on Kodi's Long pass to Mario....It would've been Intercepted had it not been for Mario's Awesome athletic ability. Mario had to reach back and knock it outta the DB's hands, then he caught it on the deflection.
It was one pass you fuckstick! :fu: :fu:
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It was one pass you fuckstick! :fu: :fu:
Fuck You, you dumb piece of Shit...that One Pass, no matter how bad of a pass it was, was better than most of y'alls QBs throws.
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I skipped around the channels earlier and came across Bama's Mullet Day. I watched ONE play...which was McElroy throwing a bullet to Hightower. Only problem is...Hightower is a linebacker. Then I saw Nick Saban in a gray suit come out and rip McElroy.
I laughed my ass off and changed the channel.
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Back to the topic at hand. I have to admit. Caudle impressed me today. He was crisp and on target with his passes and looked very confident. Easily the best I've seen him look since he's been at AU.
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Neil Caudle 11-16 161 Yds 2 Tds....Zero INTs.
Kodi Burns 3-8 45 Yds 0 Tds (41 of the 45 Yds came from the Mario Fannin play where he knocked the ball away from the DB that had intercepted it). So, if that pass was thrown to another player, Kodi very likely would've been (2-8 4 Yds 0 Tds 1 Int) that's assuming that the play calling would've been the same after the interception.
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So, if that pass was thrown to another player, Kodi very likely would've been (2-8 4 Yds 0 Tds 1 Int) that's assuming that the play calling would've been the same after the interception.
For comparison sake I am calling a wash on that one of Kodi's. Caudle had one that was tipped across the middle that should have been intercepted as well that went for a completion.
I have been going back and forth all evening on the two. I don't know who will or should gt the nod.
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I just shit my pants
Flamer, get back to your boyfriend and let the grown up's talk buisness.
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Neil Caudle is head and shoulders above Kodi. Neil looked poised in the pocket with a left tackle that was getting blow up on every play, with zip on his passes. I was impressed with the way he ran the offense. Kodi looked the same as last year, happy feet, under throwing recievers, making one read and running for his life.
Just my take, but that's exactly what I saw. The numbers indicate Kodi is still Kodi, and what I saw on the field says Caudle is and should be the guy.
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I vote Burns. If he could get his head out of ass he has the talent to be a great QB. :bowl:
Or go with a QB that alread has his head out of his ass...what the hell is the love affair with Kodi and some people? He's shown NOTHING!
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Caudle. Trust me.
Kodi will play if Tyrik doesn't make it into school or turns out to be a bust.
Caudle's arm. Rollison's legs with occasional throws.
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For comparison sake I am calling a wash on that one of Kodi's. Caudle had one that was tipped across the middle that should have been intercepted as well that went for a completion.
I have been going back and forth all evening on the two. I don't know who will or should gt the nod.
I'm assuming you mean that bullet Caudle zipped over the LBs in the second half? Exactly the kind of throw that shows his skill..."wide open" in the SEC is a small window, and you have to make throws just like that. Major difference in "was picked and taken back by your own man" and "almost picked, but completed".
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I think Caudle will be the starter on opening day. Burns will still have a role, maybe inside the red zone where he can be a run/pass threat. I believe the reason that they didn't name a starter is because they want to make the qb's get out and throw with the wr's during the summer, and keep the competition up, so we end up with a better leader on the field this year. Actually, it can't get much worse than it was last year, and Kodi did have a 300+ passing performance last year.
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Caudle. Trust me.
Kodi will play if Tyrik doesn't make it into school or turns out to be a bust.
Caudle's arm. Rollison's legs with occasional throws.
Have you seen Tyrik's tape? That dude is a hell of a passer! He is a pass first then use his legs to beat you if nothing is open. TO label him as a "Burns" type player would be wrong. I would label him more like a Dameyon Craig type player. A guy that can sling it around but can still beat you with his legs if he has to.
I have just seen this dudes highlight tapes, but this kid is good. He won the state championship here in TX and had people raving!
If Caudle (or Burns I guess...although I hope to god we aren't depending on Burns to play QB) doesn't step up this year, I really wouldn't mind seeing this kid play as a freshman. I think he could be special...
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A little more for those that don't know or may have forgot...
70% completion percentage...70 fucking percent.........
And who can blame the Sulphur Springs head coach when he talks about his prized pupil, quarterback Tyrik Rollison, who signed with Auburn last Wednesday.
Rollison is coming off a fantastic season in which he led Sulphur Springs to the Texas Class 4A Div. II state championship, throwing for 4,728 yards and 51 touchdowns and rushing for another 1,094 yards and 12 touchdowns.
"He's a tremendous kid and a tremendous talent," Owens said. "I think Auburn has a definite winner in Tyrik. He's led our team the last three years and has done a fantastic job for us. These last two years have been unbelievable."
Owens describes the 6-foot-2, 185-pound Rollison as a complete package at quarterback.
"He's a kid with tremendous poise," Owens said. "He has great pocket presence and feels pressure and know when to get rid of it. He's got an incredibly quick release. His ability to see the field is unbelievable. He really knows where the kids are and knows how to find them.
"He can throw any ball. He can throw the 60-yard bomb in stride, the out-route and a little touch pass out of the backfield. If it's not there and the pocket breaks down, he's got the ability to get you 10, 15, 20 or maybe more. We really didn't start running him until we got in the playoffs. We just tried to keep him healthy."
And it's not just Rollison's physical talents that impress Owens.
"He's a great kid and very humble," Owens said. "Loves to win. Tremendous competitor. At the same time, it's about his teammates. He could care less about how many passes he completes as long as they're being successful.
"He does a great job on the field of leading his teammates with his will to win. He's not a very vocal young man but he does it by his pure will on the field."
Another plus for Rollison as he makes the transition to SEC football at Auburn is his familiarity running an offense similar to the one AU offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn will install at Auburn this year.
"It's a very similar offense," Owens said. "Coach Malzahn came down when he was recruiting and we talked about his offense a little bit. It's very similar to what we're doing. We're a spread, one-back, no-back, throw it all over the place, wide-open offense.
"Ty is very comfortable in that system. He does a great job of reading defenses. His accuracy is also incredible. Over a three-year period with the varsity, I think he had a 72 percent completion rate."[/quote]
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A little more for those that don't know or may have forgot...
70% completion percentage...70 fucking percent.........
And who can blame the Sulphur Springs head coach when he talks about his prized pupil, quarterback Tyrik Rollison, who signed with Auburn last Wednesday.
Rollison is coming off a fantastic season in which he led Sulphur Springs to the Texas Class 4A Div. II state championship, throwing for 4,728 yards and 51 touchdowns and rushing for another 1,094 yards and 12 touchdowns.
"He's a tremendous kid and a tremendous talent," Owens said. "I think Auburn has a definite winner in Tyrik. He's led our team the last three years and has done a fantastic job for us. These last two years have been unbelievable."
Owens describes the 6-foot-2, 185-pound Rollison as a complete package at quarterback.
"He's a kid with tremendous poise," Owens said. "He has great pocket presence and feels pressure and know when to get rid of it. He's got an incredibly quick release. His ability to see the field is unbelievable. He really knows where the kids are and knows how to find them.
"He can throw any ball. He can throw the 60-yard bomb in stride, the out-route and a little touch pass out of the backfield. If it's not there and the pocket breaks down, he's got the ability to get you 10, 15, 20 or maybe more. We really didn't start running him until we got in the playoffs. We just tried to keep him healthy."
And it's not just Rollison's physical talents that impress Owens.
"He's a great kid and very humble," Owens said. "Loves to win. Tremendous competitor. At the same time, it's about his teammates. He could care less about how many passes he completes as long as they're being successful.
"He does a great job on the field of leading his teammates with his will to win. He's not a very vocal young man but he does it by his pure will on the field."
Another plus for Rollison as he makes the transition to SEC football at Auburn is his familiarity running an offense similar to the one AU offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn will install at Auburn this year.
"It's a very similar offense," Owens said. "Coach Malzahn came down when he was recruiting and we talked about his offense a little bit. It's very similar to what we're doing. We're a spread, one-back, no-back, throw it all over the place, wide-open offense.
"Ty is very comfortable in that system. He does a great job of reading defenses. His accuracy is also incredible. Over a three-year period with the varsity, I think he had a 72 percent completion rate."[/quote]
Yep, it just moved.
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A little more for those that don't know or may have forgot...
70% completion percentage...70 fucking percent.........
You know what's better than 70%?
72%.
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I agree. I really like the kid and I want to see him do good, but I still don't think he is ever going to be as good at QB as he is at being an athlete.
Agree too....Burns is an athlete but he sure as hell ain't a QB.
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Agree too....Burns is an athlete but he sure as hell ain't a QB.
I think Gus will make him yall's QB next season.
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I think Gus will make him yall's QB next season.
I hope not, that is similar to Franklin trying to make Todd our QB last year. I might have a fucking Cesar.
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that is similar to Franklin trying to make Todd our QB last year.
Not even close.
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Not even close.
Why, because Burns is black? Why is always about race with you?
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Why, because Burns is black? Why is always about race with you?
I'm tired of da man keepin me down.
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I might have a fucking Cesar.
Calm down, buddy. There's no need to get all riled up and go to ordering salads. No need to bust out a health kick over playing the wrong QB.
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Calm down, buddy. There's no need to get all riled up and go to ordering salads. No need to bust out a health kick over playing the wrong QB.
+2
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Calm down, buddy. There's no need to get all riled up and go to ordering salads. No need to bust out a health kick over playing the wrong QB.
I'll load that bitch up with croutons. Don't think I won't.
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Calm down, buddy. There's no need to get all riled up and go to ordering salads. No need to bust out a health kick over playing the wrong QB.
What I do with a salad is illegal in Alabama, and legal in most parts of Arkansas.
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Back on topic. I know one spring game doth not a quarterback make. I was very skeptical going in because in the times I'd seen Caudle play over the past couple of years, he looked erratic at best. Strong arm but for some reason, he never looked very accurate to me. Even watching him in warm ups was puzzling because even then, the simplest of passes seemed to a little off target and just not very smooth.
I'll admit I was very impressed with him this past Saturday. Not that my opinion counts until Chizik calls and asks for it. Of the two QB's, NC looked much sharper and seemed comfortable in the offense. His passes for the most part, were quick and accurate. He got the ball where it needed to go in a hurry. Kodi, unfortunately, looked much like he did last year...to me anyway.
I think we have to take into account that last year was a total clusterfuck. This team had no OC for most of the year and while they did, it was again...a clusterfuck..changing week to week in it's direction. They finished the season without a true OC, no real QB coach and running a high school offense just to get by. Could this staff and this offense be just what the doctor ordered for Neil Caudle? Is he getting the coaching that made that light click on? Does this offense and the reads he has to make fit his abilities better than any system he's been in so far?
I'm certainly not saying NC is suddenly THE MAN. Again, that's the first time I've seen him play extensively and also look pretty darn good. But, if this offense does not challenge the QB to make numerous reads and go through an ass load of progressions...in other words, "Here's the freakin' play..here's the only things you need to do with the ball on this play"...we may have found our QB for 09'.
I'll get back to you right after I go over this with Chiz.
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Question? It's been a while so forgive me, but what system did Caudle run in HS. Wasn't it something similar to what CGM runs?
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Question? It's been a while so forgive me, but what system did Caudle run in HS. Wasn't it something similar to what CGM runs?
I cannot recall for sure but he was at Spain Park and it seems like it was some variation of this offense.
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Question? It's been a while so forgive me, but what system did Caudle run in HS. Wasn't it something similar to what CGM runs?
They mostly ran a match up zone but would press and then drop into a 1-3-1 off a made basket.
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They mostly ran a match up zone but would press and then drop into a 1-3-1 off a made basket.
1-3-1 is badass.
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They mostly ran a match up zone but would press and then drop into a 1-3-1 off a made basket.
Spain Park bought their offense of the internet and some seminar...
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Spain Park bought their offense of the internet and some seminar...
Why pay for the 1-3-1? That don't make any sense!
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It's not going to matter who the QB is. Coach Chizik wasn't able to bring in any talent along the line. Heck, Jermaine Johnson the big OL out of Hargrave realized that Auburn is a sinking ship, since the hiring of Coach Chizik and that makes me sick to my stomach.
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It's not going to matter who the QB is. Coach Chizik wasn't able to bring in any talent along the line. Heck, Jermaine Johnson the big OL out of Hargrave realized that Auburn is a sinking ship, since the hiring of Coach Chizik and that makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh Dear GOD. Are these people like Cockroaches? Jermaine decided to go to Miami after a weekend visit down there and didn't even give Auburn a chance to help him see the light, so to speak. Now, JJ is having trouble in Miami and there's a possibility that he'll be fighting for the second string RT spot. :thumbsup: The people are saying that he came in Way out of shape and that he's not as strong as advertised. So, whatever helps you with your hate for Coach Chizik.
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Oh Dear GOD. Are these people like Cockroaches? Jermaine decided to go to Miami after a weekend visit down there and didn't even give Auburn a chance to help him see the light, so to speak. Now, JJ is having trouble in Miami and there's a possibility that he'll be fighting for the second string RT spot. :thumbsup: The people are saying that he came in Way out of shape and that he's not as strong as advertised. So, whatever helps you with your hate for Coach Chizik.
I don't hate Coach Chizik, I just think he's going to fall on his face and that he's going to put my Auburn team back atleast 2-3 years.
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I don't hate Coach Chizik, I just think he's going to fall on his face and that he's going to put my Auburn team back atleast 2-3 years.
:taunt: So, is that the Company Line? "He's going to fall on his face", "(5-19)", "he doesn't know what he's doing", yadda yadda yadda. Pathetic
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Yeah, Tommy had it headed straight to the top.
Maybe a new group of assistant coaches would have been the ticket.