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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Six on July 05, 2017, 03:12:33 PM
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Kicker Daniel Carlson (A.K.A. Legatron)
Saftey Tray Matthews (A.K.A. TriggaTrey)
OT Braden Smith (A.K.A. The Specimen, The Prototype, Hulk)
represent for the Tigers. July 13 is our day. We can expect no less than 17 stories on how Carlson's family hates him, how many times Matthews should have been arrested, and Smith is probably on the gas columns by Scarbinsky.
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Carlson is a traitor to his family
Trey is a thug that uga didn't want
Braden is on the juice
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Carlson is a traitor to his family
Trey is a thug that uga didn't want
Braden is on the juice
What are Headlines on AL.Com for Auburn's coverage of SEC Media Days 2017, Alex?
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Kicker Daniel Carlson (A.K.A. Legatron)
Saftey Tray Matthews (A.K.A. TriggaTrey)
OT Braden Smith (A.K.A. The Specimen, The Prototype, Hulk)
represent for the Tigers. July 13 is our day. We can expect no less than 17 stories on how Carlson's family hates him, how many times Matthews should have been arrested, and Smith is probably on the gas columns by Scarbinsky.
Lol yup,
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WHAT GUS SAID
All of this from Al.com
-- Opening remarks: Summarizes Braden Smith, Tray Matthews and Daniel Carlson as the team's players reps.
-- Recaps last year: "We started out, we had some major adversity." Proud of how team "rebounded." "We had some key injuries late, we kind of limped home."
-- "Probably the biggest question mark for our team right now is who's going to be our starting punter."
-- Says the team is "hungry, and they got something to prove." Last time he felt this way was 2013.
-- On Jarrett Stidham: "The biggest comfort for me right now is we got quality depth at the quarterback position." Praises Stidham's leadership, praises Sean White's abilities. "We've got two of the better quarterbacks I feel like."
-- On "catching up" with Alabama: "Obviously they're on the top, they've won it the last three years. The No. 1 recruiting class every year." Says Auburn has "high expectations" and has goal to win SEC Championship, "to do that, you got to beat Alabama."
-- On Malik Miller: He's gotten bigger and faster.
-- Expects to see more odd-front than even-front defenses this year
-- On Braden Smith: Says he's come a long way as a leader
-- On linebackers: Says Deshaun Davis and Tre' Williams were big part of why defense turned around
-- On quarterbacks: While the two will battle through fall camp, Malzahn said the team will avoid a situation like last season, when the competition bled into the start of the season and included an ill-fated and chaotic three-man quarterback rotation during a season-opening loss to Clemson.
"It will be earlier than last year," Malzahn said. "There's no doubt."
-- Says Marlon Davidson will be called up to be "impact player'
-- On SEC East talk, "I like the way it is right now." Says it was all blown out of proportion.
-- On Kevin Steele: Says he should've been "right in the middle" of the conversation for the Broyles award for what he did in turning around the Auburn defense last season.
-- On Casey Dunn & Wilson Bell: "Both of them will have a chance to really help us." Says Wilson Bell is a "mountain of a man." Casey Dunn was "a phenomenal player" at JSU.
-- On playing Clemson: Says team is "sick" about loss from last year, teams have history
-- "We're going to throw it quite a bit more."
-- On Hugh Freeze: "Hugh is one of my good friends in this business, he's one of the good guys in college football."
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He forgot, "We're just trying to get better every week".
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He forgot, "We're just trying to get better every week".
The scuttlebutt on Twitter seemed to be there was less coachspeak than usual from Gus, but yeah, I'm not really seeing it.
Maybe it was more to do with his inflection/enthusiasm? Hoping he's more confident for good reason?
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The scuttlebutt on Twitter seemed to be there was less coachspeak than usual from Gus, but yeah, I'm not really seeing it.
Maybe it was more to do with his inflection/enthusiasm? Hoping he's more confident for good reason?
It was all about Houston busting his Nutt all over FreezeHugh today. Oh, and how Alabama doesn't really care about Auburn as a rival.
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The scuttlebutt on Twitter seemed to be there was less coachspeak than usual from Gus, but yeah, I'm not really seeing it.
Maybe it was more to do with his inflection/enthusiasm? Hoping he's more confident for good reason?
My buddy, who did his show from the Wind Free the last couple of days, said the same thing. He seemed more loose and a little more open. He's still the king of coach speak, though.
He says he's not going to let the QB battle go as late as it did last year, and I hope that's the case. But he said the same thing before last year. "We want to name our starter much earlier this year". I don't think we knew until kick off of the Clemson game. I will say I feel mucho bettero having both Stidham and White on the roster. Contrary to a lot people's opinion, if I knew Sean White would be 100% for the entire season, I'd be perfectly comfortable with the QB position.
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My buddy,
Hmm. YOu got a buddy?
Contrary to a lot people's opinion, if I knew Sean White would be 100% for the entire season, I'd be perfectly comfortable with the QB position.
I have said this all along. If the kid could stay healthy, he is really good. Having him and Stidham, I feel we are in a good place right now.
I wanted to feel this way two season ago, but JJ6 crushed that dream. Hopefully Stidham can make that memory go away!
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Hmm. YOu got a buddy?
I have said this all along. If the kid could stay healthy, he is really good. Having him and Stidham, I feel we are in a good place right now.
I wanted to feel this way two season ago, but JJ6 crushed that dream. Hopefully Stidham can make that memory go away!
He ad nausea talks about this "buddy" but I think your answer is truthfully, no. At least not this particular one.
I have stated before on here, the White boy is too short. Look at how many balls he had batted down. I don't know how many but pretty sure we should take the over on the average.
But he's still good. Not good enough to win the sec but pretty good. We are solid d 2 deep at QB. Pretty good 3 deep I believe. Better than we've been sense I don't ny know when. Maybe the best ever at QB which is amazing, considering last year.
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I have buddies. Mmmmm....buddies!
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They never asked him about his admiration of Nick Saban? Weird.
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I'm gonna laugh when Sean White starts the Georgia Southern game.
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I'm gonna laugh when Sean White starts the Georgia Southern game.
I have already said I think Sean starts the season.
I refuse to get caught up in Stidham mania until he has played a few games. Call it my Jeremy Johnson fool me once phobia.
That being said, I just wants us to win games don't really care if it's Sean or Stidham.
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I have already said I think Sean starts the season.
I refuse to get caught up in Stidham mania until he has played a few games. Call it my Jeremy Johnson fool me once phobia.
That being said, I just wants us to win games don't really care if it's Sean or Stidham.
What if it were Buzz? Could you support a Buzz-led Offense?
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What if it were Buzz? Could you support a Buzz-led Offense?
I could win the SEC
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I have already said I think Sean starts the season.
I refuse to get caught up in Stidham mania until he has played a few games. Call it my Jeremy Johnson fool me once phobia.
That being said, I just wants us to win games don't really care if it's Sean or Stidham.
I would be deflated if he does...I want a fresh start.
I agree. I don't think this will be a JJ repeat though...a lot of fake news from the staff and media that season. Romo Johnson wasn't that great to begin with...I think we all knew that deep down despite his brilliant game against Arkansas.
Agreed but it will be with Stidham.
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I have already said I think Sean starts the season.
I refuse to get caught up in Stidham mania until he has played a few games. Call it my Jeremy Johnson fool me once phobia.
That being said, I just wants us to win games don't really care if it's Sean or Stidham.
He speaks for all of us.
Srsly tho......Not just JJ but Kodi, Kiehl as well. I think Stidham is a very good QB with the total package but I want to see him actually play an SEC game first. LSU and BAMA's DL aint exactly Kansas and Texas Tech.
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He speaks for all of us.
Srsly tho......Not just JJ but Kodi, Kiehl as well. I think Stidham is a very good QB with the total package but I want to see him actually play an SEC game first. LSU and BAMA's DL aint exactly Kansas and Texas Tech.
No. No he doesn't.
Are you excited to think Sean White could be the starter? I'm not. I'm on the Stidham bus. I'll fucking burn in it if I have too. I didn't buy the first ticket on it but sure hell ain't going to be the last on either. We haven't beat Alabama or Georgia in 3 years. We haven't beat LSU in Baton Rouge since 2008.
I hate that sports cliche...btw.
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What if it were Buzz? Could you support a Buzz-led Offense?
With those guns he can throw it over the mountains.
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No. No he doesn't.
Are you excited to think Sean White could be the starter? I'm not. I'm on the Stidham bus. I'll fucking burn in it if I have too. I didn't buy the first ticket on it but sure hell ain't going to be the last on either. We haven't beat Alabama or Georgia in 3 years. We haven't beat LSU in Baton Rouge since 2008.
I hate that sports cliche...btw.
I am more than confident in Sean as long as he can stay healthy. Again the kid is efficient and wins ball games, but think what you want to think.
I don't know how you can say anything bad about him other than he is injury prone.
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I'm amblivilous about it. As I said, if you could guarantee White is healthy the whole season, I'm fine with him. Stidham, on the other hand, is not as much of an "unknown" as JJ was when he was named the starter. We had one half of action and a few hand offs to go on. Stidham has played in 10 games and started 3 of them and put up some very good numbers.
And BTW, I guzzled the Johnson juice. (Eeeewwww) I really thought he was going to put up sick numbers at Auburn. Actually, he did. His numbers made me sick.
I guess ultimately, I'm hoping the perception by many that JS is a step up from White is correct. That just makes us that much better.
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I am more than confident in Sean as long as he can stay healthy. Again the kid is efficient and wins ball games, but think what you want to think.
I don't know how you can say anything bad about him other than he is injury prone.
you're right i can't say anything bad about him. he's our Tony Romo. awesome character...stand up guy with mediocre candy dish stats. he's a 7-5 or 8-4 guy. i'm ready to see if stidham is a 3-8 qb or a 12-0 qb.
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I truly believe we can win with either at QB as long as they stay healthy. That has been a challenge for White, unfortunately.
The only difference IMO between having either of the two as the starter would be the run-pass ratio. It would be about a 10-15% difference...leaning a little more on the run if White starts.
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I didn't go to the last A day but watched on tv. Been to the last several and numerous over the years. The most excited I was to see a QB play was Cam. Granted, he didn't show out and there was no indication of the Heisman but I was very impressed and moist.
Stidham made some throws I've never seen an AU QB make. Super tight windows.
I'll go ahead and make my prediction. I think he breaks records. He's a difference maker.
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I didn't go to the last A day but watched on tv. Been to the last several and numerous over the years. The most excited I was to see a QB play was Cam. Granted, he didn't show out and there was no indication of the Heisman but I was very impressed and moist.
Stidham made some throws I've never seen an AU QB make. Super tight windows.
I'll go ahead and make my prediction. I think he breaks records. He's a difference maker.
Cam Martin doesn't even play QB.
Dumb ass.
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Cam Martin doesn't even play QB.
Dumb ass.
I'll knock your teeth so far down your throat you'll have to unzip your pants to tell what time it is.
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I'll knock your teeth so far down your throat you'll have to unzip your pants to tell what time it is.
Oh yeah? Well I'll....wait....what?
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Again I want whoever is our QB to win us games, bottom line.
I just don't get those that think Sean couldn't be that person. He has proved he can be as good as advertised.
He is now a Junior, hopefully, with a good QB coach now.
I'll agree a big part of me wants to see him succeed because he has given us his all and now this Stidham kid is supposed to be the second coming of Jesus Newton. Plus there is a contingent of fans that think Sean is nothing but an avg. QB when in reality I think the real problem has been coaching and play calling and not Sean.
That said, if Stidham is the second coming of Jesus and leads us out of Egypt like Moses to the promised land. Well.... praise be War Damn Stidham.
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Again I want whoever is our QB to win us games, bottom line.
I just don't get those that think Sean couldn't be that person. He has proved he can be as good as advertised.
He is now a Junior, hopefully, with a good QB coach now.
I'll agree a big part of me wants to see him succeed because he has given us his all and now this Stidham kid is supposed to be the second coming of Jesus Newton. Plus there is a contingent of fans that think Sean is nothing but an avg. QB when in reality I think the real problem has been coaching and play calling and not Sean.
That said, if Stidham is the second coming of Jesus and leads us out of Egypt like Moses to the promised land. Well.... praise be War Damn Stidham.
:kimclap:
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Again I want whoever is our QB to win us games, bottom line.
I just don't get those that think Sean couldn't be that person. He has proved he can be as good as advertised.
He is now a Junior, hopefully, with a good QB coach now.
I'll agree a big part of me wants to see him succeed because he has given us his all and now this Stidham kid is supposed to be the second coming of Jesus Newton. Plus there is a contingent of fans that think Sean is nothing but an avg. QB when in reality I think the real problem has been coaching and play calling and not Sean.
That said, if Stidham is the second coming of Jesus and leads us out of Egypt like Moses to the promised land. Well.... praise be War Damn Stidham.
I really like him and mostly agree with nook's assessment. I do think he's a step slow to be a little short. Can't be both.
I also believe he's injury prone. But he's a tough kid. And coaching may make a big difference in batted balls, I would love to see it.
He has a strong arm but no touch a lot of times on short passes. Even in warm ups. Maybe this changes with coaching too. He's a really scrappy and tough dude. Like you, I'm for whoever wins the job. I just believe Stidham is the more talented and likely wins it.
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Again I want whoever is our QB to win us games, bottom line.
I just don't get those that think Sean couldn't be that person. He has proved he can be as good as advertised.
He is now a Junior, hopefully, with a good QB coach now.
I'll agree a big part of me wants to see him succeed because he has given us his all and now this Stidham kid is supposed to be the second coming of Jesus Newton. Plus there is a contingent of fans that think Sean is nothing but an avg. QB when in reality I think the real problem has been coaching and play calling and not Sean.
That said, if Stidham is the second coming of Jesus and leads us out of Egypt like Moses to the promised land. Well.... praise be War Damn Stidham.
Your ability to assess QB talent is on par with your ability to run a message board.
In other words, you suck at life.
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In other words, you suck at life.
Troof
....things could always be worse though. I could be a ginger with a bowl cut, now that would be a travesty. I can't even imagine it. Makes me throw up in my mouth a little
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and now this Stidham kid is supposed to be the second coming of Jesus Newton.
I loved her song Queen of Hearts
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Oh yeah? Well I'll....wait....what?
Don't make his brain leak.
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I loved her song Queen of Hearts
That was Joe Mantegna
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I loved her song Queen of Hearts
I started to go there but thought it was too much of a reach. Good catch.
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http://auburn.247sports.com/Bolt/Word-up-Gus-Malzahns-growth-at-SEC-Media-Days-over-the-years-101155915
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Johnson wasn't that great to begin with...I think we all knew that deep down despite his brilliant game against Arkansas.
Strongly disagree. I thought he was the key to the Gushlee offense after that half against the Hogs. I remain solidly convinced that JJ was failed by the coaches.
White has certainly shown (when the playcalling isn't done by a crack-addled rhesus monkey) that he can win big in the SEC.
I'm happy if he starts (with the above disclaimer) or if it's Stidham (from whom I expect big things). The success of this year's iteration of the Auburn Tigers lies almost wholly at the feet of the coaches. All the pieces to the puzzle are there.
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Strongly disagree. I thought he was the key to the Gushlee offense after that half against the Hogs. I remain solidly convinced that JJ was failed by the coaches.
White has certainly shown (when the playcalling isn't done by a crack-addled rhesus monkey) that he can win big in the SEC.
I'm happy if he starts (with the above disclaimer) or if it's Stidham (from whom I expect big things). The success of this year's iteration of the Auburn Tigers lies almost wholly at the feet of the coaches. All the pieces to the puzzle are there.
Last year was a puzzle. We either lit it up like a pinball machine - Arkansas - or couldn't make a fucking first down- UGA.
Injuries. Blah blah. Good teams have the next man up. Good coaches have the next man ready. It was the clearest sign yet to me that Gus is truly a one trick pony in that when he has X, Y and Z in place it works. But replace X with R? Even if R is talented, if R doesn't do exactly what a X did it doesn't work.
Also galling to me is that there is no backup plan beyond panicked chaos. He either keeps doing the same failed thing or it goes all to hell. We don't make adjustments. We don't have a plan B.
If Stidham is the "answer" and we return to scoring at will (Cam, Nick) I'm going to be happy. But I'm also going to be frustrated because it won't prove Gus' ability to coach. I will have questions and doubts. That said, are we okay with a few mediocre maddening years capped by one where he finds the juco/transfer diamond? And if you are a good QB why in the hell would you want to come there and put in the work knowing that he's panning for castoff gold every winter?
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That said, are we okay with a few mediocre maddening years capped by one where he finds the juco/transfer diamond? And if you are a good QB why in the hell would you want to come there and put in the work knowing that he's panning for castoff gold every winter?
I've been vocal about it the past few years, but I'm absolutely not okay with the rollercoaster ride that is Auburn football.
My biggest hope is that Gus finally got rid of Lashlee and we'll see better QB development with the new OC. Considering the defense has been improving since Muschamp came in, I like to think AU could become a more consistent product over the next few years.
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Can't claim better QB development this year. Remember what everybody says. Stidham was trained by someone else before he got here.
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Auburn is going to show out this year and Stidham will be invited to New York.
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Auburn is going to show out this year and Stidham will be invited to New York.
Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
I'm leaning this way, but have been burned too often to feel comfortable with it.
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Auburn is going to show out this year and Stidham will be invited to New York.
I certainly hope so, with the caveat that even so it won't quell lingering doubts about Malzahn's overall ability.
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I've been vocal about it the past few years, but I'm absolutely not okay with the rollercoaster ride that is Auburn football.
My biggest hope is that Gus finally got rid of Lashlee and we'll see better QB development with the new OC. Considering the defense has been improving since Muschamp came in, I like to think AU could become a more consistent product over the next few years.
I know you don't have the same access as I do but I'm going to try to help you out and keep you from looking like more of a dumbass. You probably ought to stop singing Muschamp's praises, considering he could be leaving AU for a HC gig at any moment.
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Anything short of a National Championship and a Heisman for
Johnson Stidham this season will be a disappointment.
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Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
I'm leaning this way, but have been burned too often to feel comfortable with it.
Jeremy Johnson?
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Jeremy Johnson?
Ron Burgundy?
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Ron Burgundy?
Dammit, who typed a question mark on the teleprompter? For the last time, anything you put on that teleprompter Burgundy will read!
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Hey, nice clothes, gentlemen. I didn't know that the Salvation Army was having a sale.
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Strongly disagree. I thought he was the key to the Gushlee offense after that half against the Hogs. I remain solidly convinced that JJ was failed by the coaches.
I too think this was on coaching. The first half against the Hogs, he was tossing the ball down the middle, running what seemed to be a different side to the offense. If you look back though, it petered out right before half. The coaches started calling the NM offense.
And then when the next season started, they still called the NM offense.
Would JJ6 have been successful if they had called a similar offense as say, Todd? I don't know, but it would have been nice to at least see.
I think they put him in a position where he could not be NM. Hell, nobody could. And they ruined him.
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I too think this was on coaching. The first half against the Hogs, he was tossing the ball down the middle, running what seemed to be a different side to the offense. If you look back though, it petered out right before half. The coaches started calling the NM offense.
And then when the next season started, they still called the NM offense.
Would JJ6 have been successful if they had called a similar offense as say, Todd? I don't know, but it would have been nice to at least see.
I think they put him in a position where he could not be NM. Hell, nobody could. And they ruined him.
Agree with all of this.
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Agree with all of this.
Congrats on finding the one thing that you have in common with CCTAU, even though it is also wrong.
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Congrats on finding the one thing that you have in common with CCTAU, even though it is also wrong.
Racist bastage!
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I think you guys are giving JJ way too much credit. He had the physical skills, but I just don't think that he could cut it mentally playing QB for a top SEC team. Dude couldn't handle the pressure and if his first option wasn't there, he went full tard.
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I think you guys are giving JJ way too much credit. He had the physical skills, but I just don't think that he could cut it mentally playing QB for a top SEC team. Dude couldn't handle the pressure and if his first option wasn't there, he went full tard.
This is true, although I believe that better position coaching and influence early in his career could have turned him into an sec QB.
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This is true, although I believe that better position coaching and influence early in his career could have turned him into an sec QB.
You got something against the Lash?
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This is true, although I believe that better position coaching and influence early in his career could have turned him into an sec QB.
Dude, you can coach someone all you want to, but that doesn't mean he can read a cover 2 at game time...
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Dude, you can coach someone all you want to, but that doesn't mean he can read a cover 2 at game time...
Thanks for the input but I think he could have been better coached from the beginning to prevent his being gun shy. Even if it's a cover 9.
But he was more of a Tim Tebow or Prescott type QB. The play calling had to match.
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Dude, you can coach someone all you want to, but that doesn't mean he can read a cover 2 at game time...
I don't disagree. BUT... As a coach you've got to be able to grasp that before the game. You can't go through weeks and weeks of practice and not know the kid can't read a defense.
There are way to many Johnsonesque busts on Malzhan's resume for it to be just one kid who can't read, though.
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I don't disagree. BUT... As a coach you've got to be able to grasp that before the game. You can't go through weeks and weeks of practice and not know the kid can't read a defense.
There are way to many Johnsonesque busts on Malzhan's resume for it to be just one kid who can't read, though.
Ahaa! Should read "too" many, not to.
Moran.
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Ahaa! Should read "too" many, not to.
Moran.
Busted! bitchas
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Dude, you can coach someone all you want to, but that doesn't mean he can read a cover 2 at game time...
Don't waste the keystrokes, WE!!! He only reads on a 4th grade level anyway.
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Don't waste the keystrokes, WE!!! He only reads on a 4th grade level anyway.
Did you go rasslin' in a crisco pool with some other uncle Ted boys like you used to, after the show?
I guess having the boy with you may have cramped the style.
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Did you go rasslin' in a crisco pool with some other uncle Ted boys like you used to, after the show?
I guess having the boy with you may have cramped the style.
Oh no, he jumped right in there with....err, I mean...shut up!
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All I am saying, is dude was from Carver. And I don't think I have seen too many D1 QB's come out from that side of the track...
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All I am saying, is dude was from Carver. And I don't think I have seen too many D1 QB's come out from that side of the track...
Jeff Davis in the house. Represent, bitches! Go Vols!
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All I am saying, is dude was from Carver. And I don't think I have seen too many D1 QB's come out from that side of the track...
Maybe so. But JD has put some damn good clip board holders out.
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All I am saying, is dude was from Carver. And I don't think I have seen too many D1 QB's come out from that side of the track...
True. But I don't think he was that horrible coming out. With a little better coaching to help develop a quicker release, the kid could have been serviceable.
Sure he had a weak psyche, but a good coach knows how to match the offense aw to the player's skills.
Hell they started last season doing the same thing. Thankfully somebody noticed SW was definitely not NM and called a bit different game. It should have worked for JJ6 also, but he was mentally gone by then.
I wonder which NFL team picked up JJ6's contract.
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Jeff Davis in the house. Represent, bitches! Go Vols!
PHS scoffs at you...
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I wonder which NFL team picked up JJ6's contract.
Giants gave him a shot, but I don't know if they ever signed him.
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All I am saying, is dude was from Carver. And I don't think I have seen too many D1 QB's come out from that side of the track...
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I was talking about the offense they ran...man...why does everything have to be about race to you?
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I was talking about the offense they ran...man...why does everything have to be about race to you?
Because I'm a black trump supporter?
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Because I'm a black trump supporter?
There's a black Trump?
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There's a black Trump?
He's good friends with Blanta.