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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on December 21, 2011, 01:09:54 PM
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AUBURN, Alabama -- Might want to slow down the rumor mill for a few days. Auburn coach Gene Chizik indicated Wednesday he won't name his offensive and defensive coordinators until after the Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 31.
"Without trying to box myself in a corner with a timeline, that's certainly a very good possibility," Chizik said Wednesday.
Chizik said the delay in finding replacements for Gus Malzahn and Ted Roof won't hurt the program.
"We are in a great place, and we have no reason to believe the plan that we laid down three years ago, which is us going on a really, really direct path. We have no reason to believe anything has changed," he said.
Chizik was asked if he foresees a change in quarterbacks between starter Clint Moseley and backup Kiehl Frazier.
"I'm not going to anticipate any changes, but we've got four or five days left of practice, so we'll see," he said.
And the mystery No. 3 tailback? Still a mystery. Chizik didn't give away that secret.
Auburn wrapped up its pre-Christmas practice schedule Wednesday morning, and the players were promptly home for Christmas. The Tigers will report as a team Christmas night in Atlanta, and begin work on Virginia the next day in the Georgia Dome.
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/12/gene_chizik_indicates_he_may_w.html (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/12/gene_chizik_indicates_he_may_w.html)
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I have seen Craig Sanders as the popular guess based on what Coach Luper said about the surprise RB.
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I have seen Craig Sanders as the popular guess based on what Coach Luper said about the surprise RB.
Sanders played tailback in HS. He absolutely punished people. Now granted, it was 1A and 2A competition, but still....
I've got pictures of him in the sho...I mean running the ball.
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Sanders played tailback in HS. He absolutely punished people. Now granted, it was 1A and 2A competition, but still....
I've got pictures of him in the sho...I mean running the ball.
His uncle works here. I think I will stop by his office and inquire.
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Dirk Koetter is the name above the rest from what the skreetz be saying. He has been the Jacksonville Jaguars OC for the last 5 years. Before that he was the Boise and Arizona State HC. Also skreetz be saying the OC and DC has already been hired.
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Dirk Koetter is the name above the rest from what the skreetz be saying. He has been the Jacksonville Jaguars OC for the last 5 years. Before that he was the Boise and Arizona State HC. Also skreetz be saying the OC and DC has already been hired.
Are your skreets a round-about or a dead end?
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Are your skreets a round-about or a dead end?
cul-de-sac
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Are your skreets a round-about or a dead end?
Its just one big circle.
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Dirk Koetter is the name above the rest from what the skreetz be saying. He has been the Jacksonville Jaguars OC for the last 5 years. Before that he was the Boise and Arizona State HC. Also skreetz be saying the OC and DC has already been hired.
Really, he was the one that put Boise on the map as a HC. Before Boise, he was Oregon's OC. Previous two jobs before that were OCing at Boston College and Missouri. Looks like a pretty solid candidate if true.
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Also, Grimes played under Koetter at UTEP, and years later, he was on his staff at ASU. The connection makes sense.
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Really, he was the one that put Boise on the map as a HC. Before Boise, he was Oregon's OC. Previous two jobs before that were OCing at Boston College and Missouri. Looks like a pretty solid candidate if true.
Could be lots of reasons for it, don't know, but the Jags offense sux this year just from glancing at their record. 29th in Scoring, 32 in Total offense.
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Could be lots of reasons for it, don't know, but the Jags offense sux this year just from glancing at their record. 29th in Scoring, 32 in Total offense.
Many of the same reasons why Auburn suck on offense this year. QB and OL play.
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Could be lots of reasons for it, don't know, but the Jags offense sux this year just from glancing at their record. 29th in Scoring, 32 in Total offense.
First of all, we all know College Success ≠ NFL Success, but just having that NFL experience is invaluable (See Saban, Petrino, Spurrier).
His 1997 Oregon team broke school records for offensive production. Put Boise on the map, as mentioned. His 2005 Offense at Arizona State was 2nd in the nation.
When he had a decent QB in his first year in Jacksonville, he improved their offense from 10th in the league to 7th. This year he's working with a rookie QB and no WRs.
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Could be lots of reasons for it, don't know, but the Jags offense sux this year just from glancing at their record. 29th in Scoring, 32 in Total offense.
They were also 22 in the league in 2001, right before we hired their OC, Bobby Petrino.
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First of all, we all know College Success ≠ NFL Success, but just having that NFL experience is invaluable (See Saban, Petrino, Spurrier).
His 1997 Oregon team broke school records for offensive production. Put Boise on the map, as mentioned. His 2005 Offense at Arizona State was 2nd in the nation.
When he had a decent QB in his first year in Jacksonville, he improved their offense from 10th in the league to 7th. This year he's working with a rookie QB and no WRs.
I qualified it. I know they got a rookie QB. Overall, I do like his resume. Lots of varied influences. Lots of experience. Like Greg Davis, I don't like his age, but that's not a huge deal I guess.
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Many of the same reasons why Auburn suck on offense this year. QB and OL play.
I thought it was play calling. WTF? :poke:
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I thought it was play calling. WTF? :poke:
Well, I was gonna go with developing players and gimmick play calling.
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Well, I was gonna go with developing players and gimmick play calling.
Lack of player tutelage?
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Lack of player tutelage?
Eggzackery.
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Dirk Koetter is the name above the rest from what the skreetz be saying. He has been the Jacksonville Jaguars OC for the last 5 years. Before that he was the Boise and Arizona State HC. Also skreetz be saying the OC and DC has already been hired.
I think I would like this hire...
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I think I would like this hire...
Me too. At first there just wasn't much excitement in hearing the OC from the Jaguars but his name rung a bell. Now, me thinks this this would be a great hire. His college background backed but some NFL coaching would seem to help in cruiten as well.
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First of all, we all know College Success ≠ NFL Success, but just having that NFL experience is invaluable (See Saban, Petrino, Spurrier).
His 1997 Oregon team broke school records for offensive production. Put Boise on the map, as mentioned. His 2005 Offense at Arizona State was 2nd in the nation.
When he had a decent QB in his first year in Jacksonville, he improved their offense from 10th in the league to 7th. This year he's working with a rookie QB and no WRs.
Uh...what? The invaluable experience of losing?
Saban 15 - 17 (2 years then bolted)
Spurrier 12 - 20 (2 years then bolted)
Petrino 3 - 10 (Only stayed for 13 games...then bolted)
After watching a few Jag's games this year, they suck because of their offense, not their defense. Makes me uneasy. Just saying.
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Uh...what? The invaluable experience of losing?
Saban 15 - 17 (2 years then bolted)
Spurrier 12 - 20 (2 years then bolted)
Petrino 3 - 10 (Only stayed for 13 games...then bolted)
That was exactly my point.
They all blew dicks in the NFL and were successful at the college level.
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Petrino 3 - 10 (Only stayed for 13 games...then bolted)
They were also 22 in the league in 2001, right before we hired their OC, Bobby Petrino.
I think Auburn did pretty good then Petrino was OC. He has done pretty good as a CFB also. Like Chizad stated, those records in the NFL can be misleading to the worth of a coach in the college ranks.
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That was exactly my point.
They all blew dicks in the NFL and were successful at the college level.
True, but, Harbaugh did it at Stanford and is also successful in the NFL. Spurrier has done ok at USC and Petrino is the same at Arkansas. They are doing well, not fantastic. The only one out of the three that has won a championship...including conference championship...is Saban.
My point is that it's all relative...and that Jacksonville's offense blows.
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Chizik Receives a Gift from Former Head Coach
Auburn had seemed lost in its search to replace offensive guru Gus Malzahn; however, Gene Chizik found what could possibly be the only candidate better than what the Gus Bus did for the Auburn Tiger football team.
He found a former head coach who has experience managing and motivating a college football team: Jacksonville Jaguar offensive coordinator and former Arizona St head coach Dirk Koetter.
The coordinator position at Auburn is different than any other coordinator position in the country.
For one, Auburn is open about its importance by making the coach the highest paid assistant in the country.
Secondly, Gene Chizik has placed a responsibility on the position that other schools do not: he expects the OC to be the glue that holds the team together.
With struggling defenses over the last three years, Chizik has relied heavily on the production of the offense. The offensive spark has not only brought success on the field but also off the field.
As one recruit was overhead at a seven-on-seven camp at the University of Alabama, "That Gus offense straight up, man. Even as a defensive guy, I got interested in what they be selling over there at Auburn."
While "selling" has certainly been a hot topic for the Auburn Tiger football team, it's no secret that Gus's offense made their sell a valuable product.
But Koetter brings something even better: the qualities of a true head coach.
When Gene Chizik was brought into Auburn, he was met by a coterie of Auburn fans whose caustic response included a showering of boos. He had barely stepped off of the plane before he was littered with the way the fans truly felt: that he was unfit to be a head coach in the SEC.
But now he has made an earnest attempt to appease the Auburn fanbase.
He won the national championship with a legendary player, a genius offensive coordinator, and just enough slip ups by the opposition.
Now he'll attempt to win another as he abides by the guidance and instruction from his new offensive coordinator, Dirk Koetter, who just may also carry the title assistant Head Coach.
www.auburnboughtcamnewton.com/woodberry/auburnneverwinsfair (http://www.auburnboughtcamnewton.com/woodberry/auburnneverwinsfair)
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True, but, Harbaugh did it at Stanford and is also successful in the NFL. Spurrier has done ok at USC and Petrino is the same at Arkansas. They are doing well, not fantastic. The only one out of the three that has won a championship...including conference championship...is Saban.
My point is that it's all relative...and that Jacksonville's offense blows.
They sometimes forget how to tutor and develop players. Then, at times, they re-remember. Same with play calling.
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www.auburnboughtcamnewton.com/woodberry/auburnneverwinsfair (http://www.auburnboughtcamnewton.com/woodberry/auburnneverwinsfair)
SRSLY.
Where'd that come from?
We didn't hire Koetter yet, did we?
Did you write that? If so, kudos, because it is indistinguishable from an actual al.com article.
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SRSLY.
Where'd that come from?
We didn't hire Koetter yet, did we?
Did you write that? If so, kudos, because it is indistinguishable from an actual al.com article.
It's amazing how inspired one can be when the wife says the morning after a Christmas party, "Honey, can you come clean the dishes when you're finished on the computer?"
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...and that Jacksonville's offense blows.
That J'ville offense has a rookie QB that is dead last in passer rating and yards per game too. Not to mention a cast of WRs, and OL that I've never heard of. Completes only 50% of his passes and has yet to hit the 2000 yd mark through 14 games. They also have the league leader in rushing attempts, and rushing yards through 14 games, and that tells me something about the guy that I think is positive.
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I'm just glad it's not the guy from Southern Miss. This thing looks fugly!
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I'm just glad it's not the guy from Southern Miss. This thing looks fugly!
Agree, always best to make such decisions on one performance.
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Agree, always best to make such decisions on one performance.
I think evaluating coaches on their bowl performance is a good indicator as to how they can motivate the kids. I HATED Tubs approach to bowls. It always looked like he could care less.
And right now, USM is showing some not give a shittedness against one of those out west midlevels. Does it mean it is the coach's fault? Not sure, but up until now, the O did not look very exciting.
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I think evaluating coaches on their bowl performance is a good indicator as to how they can motivate the kids. I HATED Tubs approach to bowls. It always looked like he could care less.
And right now, USM is showing some not give a shittedness against one of those out west midlevels. Does it mean it is the coach's fault? Not sure, but up until now, the O did not look very exciting.
Excellent attempted rationalization of your point. Still..
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Still don't want him.
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Still don't want him.
Me either. I have seen them play a few times this year and I don't like it.
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It's going to rain tonight
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It's going to rain men tonight
Hallelujah!!!
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Hallelujah!!!
Hey, Hey.
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I been seeing Greg Hudsons name come up often by many different people here lately. Right now he is the LB coach and assistant HC at FSU. Before that he was the DC at ECU I believe. From what I have read, this would be a pretty good hire I think.
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hudson_greg00.html (http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hudson_greg00.html)
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I would be pretty excited about this hire were it to happen. He is a big reason that FSU's defense is getting back to it's former glory.
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I would be pretty excited about this hire were it to happen. He is a big reason that FSU's defense is getting back to it's former glory.
Me too. Not sure if it amounts to anything but I know there was some rumors and flight watchin' going on not to long ago with Auburn planes making several trips to the Tallahassee area. Both a Stoops rep and I think Phillip Marshall came out and said Stoops was never a candidate (or something like that).
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I been seeing Greg Hudsons name come up often by many different people here lately. Right now he is the LB coach and assistant HC at FSU. Before that he was the DC at ECU I believe. From what I have read, this would be a pretty good hire I think.
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hudson_greg00.html (http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hudson_greg00.html)
FSU's OL looking pretty shitty right now.
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FSU's OL looking pretty shitty right now.
And that has what to do with their LB coach?
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FSU's OL looking pretty shitty right now.
Oh, and they're playing with 4 Fr. on the OL too.
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And that has what to do with their LB coach?
Totally misread DJ's post from the last page.
Thought he was saying everyone was thinking DC hire, but we were actually looking for an OC.
Yeah, I'm a tard.
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Totally misread DJ's post from the last page.
Thought he was saying everyone was thinking DC hire, but we were actually looking for an OC.
Yeah, I'm a tard.
Full tard?
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Full tard?
Ya never go full tard.
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According to the local Fox "sports" team, Stoops got a contract extension yesterday from FSU.
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According to the local Fox "sports" team, Stoops got a contract extension yesterday from FSU.
They gave Fisher a 1 year extension through 2016 yesterday, but I haven't seen anything about assistants.
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Ya never go full tard.
He was thinking the dude playin the dude, desiguised as another dude.
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He was thinking the dude playin the dude, desiguised as another dude.
I'm a lead farmer muthafucker.
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He was thinking the dude playin the dude, desiguised as another dude.
Desiguised? That sounds French...fag.
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Desiguised? That sounds French...fag.
Autocorrect failed me :fu:
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No skreetz, but betting announcements come this week on both OC and DC. Some will, as usual, while knowing little or nothing about the new guys, will hate them immediately, and some will love them immediately.
Then look for the last 9 slots to start filling in on the recruiting class. I think we're going to finish strong.
My hope is the new OC has multiple offenses for different QBs, that he gives them out early so the starting QB can start coordinating the offense, and that they are rhythmic playbooks.
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No skreetz, but betting announcements come this week on both OC and DC. Some will, as usual, while knowing little or nothing about the new guys, will hate them immediately, and some will love them immediately.
Then look for the last 9 slots to start filling in on the recruiting class. I think we're going to finish strong.
My hope is the new OC has multiple offenses for different QBs, that he gives them out early so the starting QB can start coordinating the offense, and that they are rhythmic playbooks.
I already hate the hires. Just want everybody to be jumping onto my bandwagon for a change...
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I already hate the hires. Just want everybody to be jumping onto my bandwagon for a change...
When it all goes bad, you can sit back and say "told you so".
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I already hate the hires. Just want everybody to be jumping onto my bandwagon for a change...
I'm not sure how excited I can get but I'm liking Jeff Casteel of WVA and his 3-3-5. He is severely underpaid but the results are there. Might move a few biguns our way too. http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/31122011/5/photo/31122011183952.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/31122011/5/photo/31122011183952.html)
Have no favorite for offense. Harsin is taken already and I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have a familiar Borges over a bubble screen happy/ run by committee spread guy or some air raid dude. I only know we want to run it first and foremost. I do like what Mick McCall (N'western) does with dual threat QBs going vertical and I only know we need to keep the talent coming. http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/tag/_/name/mick-mccall (http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/tag/_/name/mick-mccall)
Jimmys and Joes! These hires are so very important.
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So, Greg Hudsons name still seems to be the hot ticket right now and Phillip Montgomery is the most recent talked about OC. The skreetz aint saying much though.
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So, Greg Hudsons name still seems to be the hot ticket right now and Phillip Montgomery is the most recent talked about OC. The skreetz aint saying much though.
Kevin Steele might be available in a pinch.
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Kevin Steele might be available in a pinch.
He can stay in Clemson.
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Kevin Steele might be available in a pinch.
Ahhhh. The ole "screen door on a submarine" defense. I like it.
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Seeing Koetter's name bubble up again...
Not to get hopes up or anything, but a fun thought:
We hired our DC the day after Atlanta was eliminated from the NFL playoffs.
Could we get an OC from an NFL team still in the playoffs?
Would be monumentally awesome if we somehow ended up with even the worst of Denver, Houston, Baltimore, New England, New Orleans, San Francisco, NYG, or Green Bays OCs.
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Seeing Koetter's name bubble up again...
Not to get hopes up or anything, but a fun thought:
We hired our DC the day after Atlanta was eliminated from the NFL playoffs.
Could we get an OC from an NFL team still in the playoffs?
Would be monumentally awesome if we somehow ended up with even the worst of Denver, Houston, Baltimore, New England, New Orleans, San Francisco, NYG, or Green Bays OCs.
Yeah, Koetter's name is all up in it right now. But, if this plays out anything like Van Gorder, it will be a name that no one has even mentioned.
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Yeah, Koetter's name is all up in it right now. But, if this plays out anything like Van Gorder, it will be a name that no one has even mentioned.
Its pretty apparent Chizik "gets" the culture of football in our state now. He is not settling. He is going for and (so far) getting who he wants. Kudos to him for aiming high in recruiting and asst coaches.
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Its pretty apparent Chizik "gets" the culture of football in our state now. He is not settling. He is going for and (so far) getting who he wants. Kudos to him for aiming high in recruiting and asst coaches.
Well he did say Van Gorder was the guy he wanted from the start. Coach speak or not, he is ball'n.
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Well he did say Van Gorder was the guy he wanted from the start. Coach speak or not, he is ball'n.
Shot Caller
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Shot Caller
20 inch blades on the Impala
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20 inch blades on the Impala
Swisher rolled tight, gotta spray my ice
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20 inch blades on the Impala
A call her getting' laid tonight.
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A call her getting' laid tonight.
I hit the highway, makin money the fly way
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I hit the highway, makin money the fly way
But there's got to be a better way
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Saban wanted the Boise OC, but Boom Mother Fucker got him. Now Saban wants Koetter (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7447855/brent-pease-named-florida-gators-offensive-coordinator-source-says).
Last week, Pease emerged as a top target for both Florida and Alabama, which is in search of a new offensive coordinator after Jim McElwain left to become the coach at Colorado State.
Pease was in Gainesville, Fla., this past weekend and interviewed with first-year coach Will Muschamp, but also had been expected to meet with Alabama coach Nick Saban Tuesday.
With Pease joining the Gators, the Crimson Tide is expected to turn its attention to a couple of NFL assistants, including former Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter.
Koetter, who spent the past five seasons in Jacksonville, is a former head coach at Arizona State (2001 to 2006) and Boise State (1998 to 2000).
New York Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, who has been mentioned as a candidate for a couple of NFL head coaching vacancies, also might be on Alabama's short list.
Also the Chicago Bears (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/16813817) want Koetter.
New offensive coordinator Mike Tice is pushing for the team to bring in Jacksonville's Dirk Koetter as QB coach/passing coordinator, according to an ESPN.com report. Koetter worked with Tice in Jacksonville. With the Jaguars still lacking a coach, Koetter's fate is undetermined.
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http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html (http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html)
New York Jets: There is a report the Jets are eyeing Tony Sparano as offensive line coach and Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter for the offensive coordinator position. Current offensive coordinator Brian Shottenheimer has interviewed for the Jaguars head coaching job.
Alabama: Don’t be surprised if Nick Saban turns to Jacksonville Jaguarss offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter for offensive coordinator job at Alabama.
Also hearing the Falcons and Rams are looking to hire him.
Would be surprised if we actually land him.
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I think Pease is a very good hire for coach Boom
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http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html (http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html)
Also hearing the Falcons and Rams are looking to hire him.
Would be surprised if we actually land him.
A gangster as ol coach for the jags?
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Jets are out....they hired Sparano as OC
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They hired Sparano as OC
Aight now....weeere gonna do tings my way..kapish? Any-uh-youz knuckleheadz got-a problum wit dat then youz gonna wish you had a torn ACL.
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