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Title: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 15, 2010, 02:30:25 PM
These are the 11 serous candidates I have heard of at this point.

Who's your favorites?

My personal wish list is in the following order.

1) Sam Mitchell
2) Tony Barbee
3) Chuck Person
4) Johnny Jones
5) Mike Anderson
6) Travis Ford
7) Frank Haith
8) Chris Collins
9) Mike Davis
10)Chris Mooney
11) John Brady

*Further research dropped Mike Davis two spots.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Jumbo on March 15, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
These are the 11 serous candidates I have heard of at this point.

Who's your favorites?

My personal wish list is in the following order.

1) Sam Mitchell
2) Tony Barbee
3) Chuck Person
4) Johnny Jones
5) Mike Anderson
6) Travis Ford
7) Mike Davis
8) Frank Haith
9) Chris Collins
10)Chris Mooney
11) John Brady
I take 2 and 5.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 15, 2010, 02:44:33 PM
I take 2 and 5.

I'm not sure about Mike Anderson.

We'd have to pay him more than we're paying Chizik, and that just doesn't seem equitable.

Consider that he turned down over $2mil a year to coach at UGA. Plus he signed a 7 year extension a year ago. I think if money is no object, then yes, he'd be in my top two as well, but as awesome as he'd be, I just don't think he'd be worth the price tag at Auburn.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Pell City Tiger on March 15, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
1, 2, or 6.

edited to add that the choices mentioned are based off Chad's order.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on March 15, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
I'm a Chuck Person Guy.  After all who really thinks a great BBall prospect is ever going to graduate anyway.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 18, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Tony Barbee's UTEP team is looking good. Solid game planning.

12-seed UTEP up 33-27 against 5-seed Butler at the half.

He's creeping his way to my #1 choice.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 18, 2010, 06:20:28 PM
Tony Barbee's UTEP team is looking good. Solid game planning.

12-seed UTEP up 33-27 against 5-seed Butler at the half.

He's creeping his way to my #1 choice.

I have heard a lot of the national media say that he may be the best coach in the tourny this year...period. That is without any mention of him leaving or whatnot...just that he is a great coach...
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Jumbo on March 18, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
Tony Barbee's UTEP team is looking good. Solid game planning.

12-seed UTEP up 33-27 against 5-seed Butler at the half.

He's creeping his way to my #1 choice.
He's my #1 for sure.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 18, 2010, 06:27:47 PM
None of those names really excite me, but then again I don't know if there's really one who would.  Auburn -- for whatever reason you want to use -- is not in a position to draw a top-flight coach.  Blame apathy, fanbase, facilities (not anymore), tradition, location, coaching, clueless AD, whatever makes you happy but the reality is that Auburn just isn't an attractive job.

We're going to have to find somebody looking for the next rung on the ladder and hope that he'll find enough to like about AU to stick around for a while.  

At some point I'd hope we'd get back to having a program that's relatively competitive.  

At the moment, however, I'd settle for a coach who could bring the following to the table:

1) Enthusiasm.  It would be nice to have a coach who could energize the team and make people realize Auburn has a basketball team.  Lebo rarely ventured out, he had zero relationship with the high school coaches in the state (something that was also apparent after two years) and he was an underwhelming recruiter.

2) Confidence. I'm sick of mealy mouth, "we really tried hard and I hope we get better.."  I want somebody who has the nuts to say what he WILL do.  

3) Fundamentals. I never saw a cohesive philosophy of offense, defense or gameplanning with Lebo.  We consistently shot free throws like the ball was square, the "run and gun" was nothing but reckless backyard ball and we rarely had any effective ball movement. Everything was sloppy and poorly executed.

Auburn basketball is in about the same situation as Auburn football circa 1980.  The wrong hire then could have plunged us into a Mississippi State-esque abyss from which we might never have recovered.  I shudder to think of what could have happened had we hired some of the others under consideration at the time.  

I keep hearing about how people trust Jacobs to make the right hire because Chizik "turned out so well" but spunk on a cracker, people, he's been there one season and had moderate success. It's WAY too early to turn that spigot of love on.  This is a critical hire for anybody who gives half a damn about AU basketball.

The right guy resurrects the program in two years.  The wrong guy will just extend the misery of the last six years (which any fool knows should have been three, max).

FWIW, I'm beginning to think Alabama made a poor selection in Anthony "Just because he's black" Grant.  He doesn't bring much enthusiasm to the program, he hasn't made any real inroads with the high school coaches, he doesn't seem to have a lot of confidence and Bama's fundamentals were hardly better than Auburn's.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 19, 2010, 07:40:54 AM
None of those names really excite me, but then again I don't know if there's really one who would.  Auburn -- for whatever reason you want to use -- is not in a position to draw a top-flight coach.  Blame apathy, fanbase, facilities (not anymore), tradition, location, coaching, clueless AD, whatever makes you happy but the reality is that Auburn just isn't an attractive job.

We're going to have to find somebody looking for the next rung on the ladder and hope that he'll find enough to like about AU to stick around for a while.  

At some point I'd hope we'd get back to having a program that's relatively competitive.  

At the moment, however, I'd settle for a coach who could bring the following to the table:

1) Enthusiasm.  It would be nice to have a coach who could energize the team and make people realize Auburn has a basketball team.  Lebo rarely ventured out, he had zero relationship with the high school coaches in the state (something that was also apparent after two years) and he was an underwhelming recruiter.

2) Confidence. I'm sick of mealy mouth, "we really tried hard and I hope we get better.."  I want somebody who has the nuts to say what he WILL do.  

3) Fundamentals. I never saw a cohesive philosophy of offense, defense or gameplanning with Lebo.  We consistently shot free throws like the ball was square, the "run and gun" was nothing but reckless backyard ball and we rarely had any effective ball movement. Everything was sloppy and poorly executed.

Auburn basketball is in about the same situation as Auburn football circa 1980.  The wrong hire then could have plunged us into a Mississippi State-esque abyss from which we might never have recovered.  I shudder to think of what could have happened had we hired some of the others under consideration at the time.  

I keep hearing about how people trust Jacobs to make the right hire because Chizik "turned out so well" but spunk on a cracker, people, he's been there one season and had moderate success. It's WAY too early to turn that spigot of love on.  This is a critical hire for anybody who gives half a damn about AU basketball.

The right guy resurrects the program in two years.  The wrong guy will just extend the misery of the last six years (which any fool knows should have been three, max).

FWIW, I'm beginning to think Alabama made a poor selection in Anthony "Just because he's black" Grant.  He doesn't bring much enthusiasm to the program, he hasn't made any real inroads with the high school coaches, he doesn't seem to have a lot of confidence and Bama's fundamentals were hardly better than Auburn's.


Can't argue with any of that except that Lebo was the same as what you say we are looking for.  Someone who was trying to get to the next rung.  His pedigree and lineage were solid, he just couldn't cut it.  I am not near naive enough to think we would attract a top tier coach.  We can't.  We are gonna have to find a Pat Dye type of coach who hopefully finds a home where he is employed.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 19, 2010, 08:36:30 AM
I got an email this morning from one of the Auburn sites that said Auburn is making a big push for Tubby Smith.  They really shouldn't send that kind of shit out before folks at least have their coffee in hand to spit on their monitors.

 :cage:
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUTiger1 on March 19, 2010, 10:05:42 AM
Tony Barbee's UTEP team is looking good. Solid game planning.

12-seed UTEP up 33-27 against 5-seed Butler at the half.

He's creeping his way to my #1 choice.

Speaking of Butler, I have mentioned his name a few times on here, but Brad Stevens would be a good hire.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 10:07:36 AM
None of those names really excite me, but then again I don't know if there's really one who would.  
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/Chizad-Lappy/eeyore.jpg)

You're basically saying, "I'm going to bitch, come hell or high water."

As mentioned in this thread Tony Barbee is frequently cited as the best coach in the NCAA right now.

How can that not excite you as a very real possibility for Auburn's HC? He's a young up-and-comer who has proven himself as a head coach. He seems to fit your criteria above perfectly.

Sam Mitchell does nothing for you? The 2007 NBA coach of the year? At Auburn?

There are some very real possibilities that could be amazing hires. We may not get the guys mentioned above, but several others on that list will be a real improvement over Lebo, especially in terms of meeting the criteria you laid out.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 11:48:22 AM
I got an email this morning from one of the Auburn sites that said Auburn is making a big push for Tubby Smith.  They really shouldn't send that kind of shit out before folks at least have their coffee in hand to spit on their monitors.

 :cage:
Looks like this may be for real. I find it hard to believe he'd come here, but if Jacobs can pull that off, that would be amazing. He may be the only coach out there I'd be cool with paying Chizik money or more.

http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/03/minnesota_ad_has_heard_the_rum.html (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/03/minnesota_ad_has_heard_the_rum.html)

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Minnesota AD has `heard the rumors' that Auburn may make move on Tubby Smith
By Charles Goldberg -- The Birmingham News
March 19, 2010, 10:25AM

Tubby Smith (AP photo)University of Minnesota Athletics Director Joel Maturi says he's "heard the rumors" that Auburn may make a play for Gophers'  basketball coach Tubby Smith, "but I haven't gotten the call,'' he told the St. Paul Pioneer Press this morning.

Maturi said neither Auburn nor Smith has contacted him about the rumors.

The Birmingham News reported this morning that  Auburn may be considering Smith, who makes $1.75 million a year at Minnesota. The News reported Auburn is prepared to make its new basketball coach one of the highest paid in the Southeastern Conference.

Maturi said in a Pioneer Press story Thursday that Minnesota can't afford to give Smith a raise because of a salary freeze, and the school can't compete with the $2 million salaries of other successful coaches in the Big Ten.

"We can't match that. We won't begin to match that,'' he told the newspaper.

 Auburn Athletics Director Jay Jacobs has not publicly identified who Auburn is considering, but has said no official contact would be made with candidates until after their basketball seasons are complete. Minnesota faces Xavier in the NCAA Tournament today.

Maturi expressed disappointment that rumors about Smith arose before Minnesota's tournament appearance today. Smith was linked to the vacant Oregon job last week.

CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd, citing an unnamed source, wrote this morning that Auburn is "close to hiring" Smith, though he added, "It could be nothing."

Auburn began looking for a new coach after firing Jeff Lebo last Friday.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 19, 2010, 11:51:54 AM
OK.  Let's assume this is true.  Thoughts?


Off the top of my head I gotta say although I think Tubby is a good person he always underwhelmed me a bit as a coach.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 11:57:12 AM
http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2010/03/could_tubby_smith_be_atop_aubu.html (http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2010/03/could_tubby_smith_be_atop_aubu.html)
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Could Tubby Smith be atop Auburn's wish list?
By Evan Woodbery
March 19, 2010, 10:38AM
As Minnesota coach Tubby Smith prepares to lead his team into the NCAA tournament today, he's fending off rumors about his future. Several schools, including Auburn, could be suitors for Smith.

CBS Sportsline reporter Dennis Dodd wrote today that Auburn was "close" to hiring Smith, according to a trusted source.

Minnesota Athletic Director Joel Maturi said he hadn't been contacted by Auburn, but had heard the rumors.

Being "close" to hiring a coach who is about to participate in the NCAA tournament and whose AD has not yet been contacted would be a major breach of protocol (which isn't to say it doesn't happen frequently). Auburn AD Jay Jacobs has said he will pursue coaches through "the front door" by requesting formal permission and not using back channels.

Smith would cost a lot of money, and he has a buyout at Minnesota. So is this just typical March scuttlebutt, or the real deal? Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 19, 2010, 11:57:41 AM
OK.  Let's assume this is true.  Thoughts?


Off the top of my head I gotta say although I think Tubby is a good person he always underwhelmed me a bit as a coach.

His time at UK aside, he has resurrected two programs from the doldrums in UGA and Minnesota.  He has also coached 17 straight 20 win seasons between Tulsa, Georgia, UK and Minnesota.  How many past Auburn coaches can say that?

I personally would like to see somebody younger and more dynamic, but he's a proven commodity...even if he is near the end of his career.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 12:01:53 PM
OK.  Let's assume this is true.  Thoughts?


Off the top of my head I gotta say although I think Tubby is a good person he always underwhelmed me a bit as a coach.
That gets a "Hell yes" from me.

Tubby Smith is a college basketball coaching legend, right next to Mike K & Bobby Knight. It would be amazing if we got a guy like that.

He won a NC at UK, although granted, in his first year and never did again in the decade he was there, but at least he was in the tournament throughout his entire tenure.  Not to mention he also brought Minnesota to the NCAA tournament back-to-back for the first time in 15 years.

I think it would bring a huge excitement factor to Auburn basketball like very few other coaches could.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 19, 2010, 12:04:13 PM
Tubby Smith is a college basketball coaching legend, right next to Mike K & Bobby Knight. It would be amazing if we got a guy like that.
:jaw:
Don't make me go all Kaos on you...
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 12:06:15 PM
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/03/auburn_prepared_to_pay_up_for.html (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/03/auburn_prepared_to_pay_up_for.html)
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Auburn basketball willing to pay for hot name; Tubby Smith enters coaching buzz
By Charles Goldberg -- The Birmingham News
March 19, 2010, 5:47AM

This story appears in Friday's Birmingham News:

AUBURN -- Auburn, which has spent $90 million on a basketball arena that will open next season, is prepared to make another sizable investment in the sport when it hires its new basketball coach. 

People familiar with the search process say the university is willing to significantly increase what it has paid former coaches in order to attract someone with a proven record to replace Jeff Lebo, who was fired last Friday. A list of candidates includes coaches who could command high salaries, such as Minnesota's Tubby Smith, who has SEC experience at Kentucky and Georgia. Auburn may make a play for him.

TubbySmith5AP.JPGTubby Smith (AP photo) TonyBarbee2AP.JPGTony Barbee (AP photo)The new coach, depending on his experience, could emerge as the fourth or fifth highest-paid basketball coach in the SEC.

The four highest-paid coaches in the SEC are Kentucky's John Calipari, at $3.9 million; Florida's Billy Donovan, at $3.4 million; Tennessee's Bruce Pearl, at $2.4 million; and Alabama's Anthony Grant, at $1.8 million. Lebo was the lowest-paid coach in the SEC, at $750,000 annually.

Depending on who Auburn hires, the new coach's salary could be close to that of football coach Gene Chizik, who will make $2.1 million this year.

College candidates for the Auburn job include Minnesota's Smith, whose team plays Xavier in the NCAA Tournament today. Smith is appearing in his 16th NCAA Tournament in the past 17 years. Smith's annual compensation at Minnesota is $1.75 million.

FoxSports.com last week mentioned Smith as a candidate at Oregon.

"There's always talk about coaches leaving and players leaving. It's part of the business. We're happy here,'' Smith said in a follow-up story in the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Another possible candidate is Texas-El Paso coach Tony Barbee. UTEP lost to Butler in the tournament Thursday. Another possible candidate is Missouri coach Mike Anderson, whose team plays Clemson today. Anderson is a Birmingham native and former UAB coach. 

Other candidates could include former Auburn player Chuck Person, who is a special assistant with the Los Angeles Lakers; and Sam Mitchell, a former NBA coach of the year who is from Columbus, Ga.

The search may still be in its early stages because most candidates have been preparing for the NCAA Tournament. Auburn Athletics Director Jay Jacobs said he won't contact any coach that is still in the tournament. 

Auburn's coaching search that ultimately led to Lebo six years ago included interviews during the Final Four in San Antonio. This year's Final Four concludes April 5 in Indianapolis. Auburn signed Lebo in 2004 to an eight-year contract. Auburn is paying him a $1.5 million buyout.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 12:08:28 PM
:jaw:
Don't make me go all Kaos on you...

How many coaches do you know of that have brought four different teams to the NCAA tournament?

Could be five, if he comes to Auburn.

He coached the Dream Team in the 2000 Olympics.

He's kind of a big deal.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 19, 2010, 12:09:17 PM
No matter the truth, the happiest people about Auburn's coaching search this week are the coaches of Butler, Xavier and Clemson.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 19, 2010, 12:11:06 PM
How many coaches do you know of that have brought four different teams to the NCAA tournament?

Could be five, if he comes to Auburn.

He coached the Dream Team in the 2000 Olympics.

He's kind of a big deal.
I don't doubt his coaching ability, there is no way I look at him as a coaching legend though.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: GH2001 on March 19, 2010, 12:11:31 PM
How many coaches do you know of that have brought four different teams to the NCAA tournament?

Could be five, if he comes to Auburn.

He coached the Dream Team in the 2000 Olympics.

He's kind of a big deal.

If we hire Tubby, that would be HUGE - on an epic scale.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 19, 2010, 12:13:58 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/Chizad-Lappy/eeyore.jpg)

You're basically saying, "I'm going to bitch, come hell or high water."

As mentioned in this thread Tony Barbee is frequently cited as the best coach in the NCAA right now.

How can that not excite you as a very real possibility for Auburn's HC? He's a young up-and-comer who has proven himself as a head coach. He seems to fit your criteria above perfectly.

Sam Mitchell does nothing for you? The 2007 NBA coach of the year? At Auburn?

There are some very real possibilities that could be amazing hires. We may not get the guys mentioned above, but several others on that list will be a real improvement over Lebo, especially in terms of meeting the criteria you laid out.

I've concluded that you're nothing but a shrieking fucking loon.  You latched on to one sentence, ignored the remainder that put it into context and posted your ignorant picture.

Congrats. You win. 
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 19, 2010, 12:16:33 PM
If we hire Tubby, that would be HUGE - on an epic scale.

Surprisingly, I think you're off base. 

Tubby Smith ten years ago, yes.  Tubby today -- sliding down the pole-- not so much. 

Better than Lebo?  Well, yeah.  A loaf of bread is a better hire than Lebo.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 12:21:58 PM
You latched on to one sentence, ignored the remainder that put it into context
I know someone else who does that.

Except in this case, I did not at all ignore the context. I referenced your criteria specifically.

I'm asking you who the hell would it take to please you?

Obviously Tubby Smith is not enough either.

You say yourself that Auburn's not in a position to hire an A-lister. There are some A-listers in this list of reasonably realistic options. Even based on the remainder of your post that you claim I ignored.

You're harder to please than Jenna Jameson.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 19, 2010, 12:30:19 PM
I know someone else who does that.

Except in this case, I did not at all ignore the context. I referenced your criteria specifically.

I'm asking you who the hell would it take to please you?

Obviously Tubby Smith is not enough either.

You say yourself that Auburn's not in a position to hire an A-lister. There are some A-listers in this list of reasonably realistic options. Even based on the remainder of your post that you claim I ignored.

You're harder to please than Jenna Jameson.

Until I have a reason to be excited about AU basketball I guess I won't be.  I thought Lebo would be a good fit, but he just never got off his ass.

And no, I wouldn't be stoked about hiring Tubby Smith. 

We're like a small Methodist church right now.  We only get preachers on the way up or the way down.  Sometimes we get a good one riding out his last days and maybe Tubby's that guy.  Sometimes we get a rising preacher who's destined for bigger things.  Either way, what we need right now is somebody to unify the congregation and build the base. 
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Tiger Wench on March 19, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
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CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd, citing an unnamed source, wrote this morning that Auburn is "close to hiring" Smith, though he added, "It could be nothing."

Close to hiring... but it could be nothing.

Does this guy post on the X??
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: GH2001 on March 19, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
Close to hiring... but it could be nothing.

Does this guy post on the X??

Prowler - is that you secretly writing on CBSsportsline?  Kidding man....

Kaos - name me one candidate better than Tubby Smith WILLING to come to Auburn. Name me one with a bigger track record - again - WILLING to come to Auburn. He has a NC. He has been to the dance more times than we have as a school. Minnesota was more dismal than us and they are dancing. Just saying - who better? He would give us instant credibility. Charles would be happy - which makes other good things happen. If nothing else, he can restore order and at least get us up to par. Thats something Lebo couldnt do on his best day.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 19, 2010, 12:56:54 PM
Prowler - is that you secretly writing on CBSsportsline?  Kidding man....

Kaos - name me one candidate better than Tubby Smith WILLING to come to Auburn. Name me one with a bigger track record - again - WILLING to come to Auburn. He has a NC. He has been to the dance more times than we have as a school. Minnesota was more dismal than us and they are dancing. Just saying - who better? He would give us instant credibility. Charles would be happy - which makes other good things happen. If nothing else, he can restore order and at least get us up to par. Thats something Lebo couldnt do on his best day.

A loaf of bread is better than Lebo.  Said it for many years now. 

I have no idea who would be willing to come to AU.  Smith knows the makeup of the SEC. He knows what he's up against if he comes.  He's a bigger and better hire than the guy Bama picked up last year when they whacked Gottfried.

I'd be happier with Smith than I was with Chizik.  Not ecstatic because he sort of faded at Kentucky (and you or I could win at KY), but from a PR standpoint it would be a high profile shot, yeah. 
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: GH2001 on March 19, 2010, 01:10:12 PM
A loaf of bread is better than Lebo.  Said it for many years now. 

I have no idea who would be willing to come to AU.  Smith knows the makeup of the SEC. He knows what he's up against if he comes.  He's a bigger and better hire than the guy Bama picked up last year when they whacked Gottfried.

I'd be happier with Smith than I was with Chizik.  Not ecstatic because he sort of faded at Kentucky (and you or I could win at KY), but from a PR standpoint it would be a high profile shot, yeah. 

Exactly - it would be a shot in the arm. Remember - he won a NC at Kentucky.  Also - Kentucky is as high profile in Basketball as ND and Texas are in Football. Thats a pressure cooker of a job. Gillespie also failed but is a very good coach. That place just requires the right kind of coach (Pitino, Calipari). Tubby had UGA rolling and Kentucky as well before the pressure set in of high expectations. I just think we actually need a decent coach - but moreso we need a splash. I think only Person or Smith would satisfy BOTH criteria. And like I said - Charles would be ecstatic. We need no more BAD PR from him or anyone else in the media.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 01:19:56 PM
And like I said - Charles would be ecstatic. We need no more BAD PR from him or anyone else in the media.
We're talking about Charles from Reeltown, right?

 :)
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 01:39:23 PM
So anyway, it appears that Tubby will either come to Auburn or Oregon.

They've had more recent success than we have (who hasn't), but not by much. Ellis got us to three NCAA tournaments since '98. Oregon's current coach got them there five times in the same period. Three first rounds, and two Elite 8s for Kent, vs. Two Sweet 16's and a second round for Ellis.

However, we have the brand new arena, that's supposed to be one of the nicest in the country, and certainly in the SEC. He apparently likes coaching in the SEC, or at least the south. He's got some young talent coming in, as this upcoming class is supposed to be far and away the best that Lebo had anything to do with.

I like our odds.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
They're talking about it during the Minnesota Xavier game.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Godfather on March 19, 2010, 02:12:29 PM
My skreets tell me Tubby is coming to Auburn.


Damn Chad you must have the same skreets as me...son of a bit...
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 19, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
So anyway, it appears that Tubby will either come to Auburn or Oregon.

They've had more recent success than we have (who hasn't), but not by much. Ellis got us to three NCAA tournaments since '98. Oregon's current coach got them there five times in the same period. Three first rounds, and two Elite 8s for Kent, vs. Two Sweet 16's and a second round for Ellis.

However, we have the brand new arena, that's supposed to be one of the nicest in the country, and certainly in the SEC. He apparently likes coaching in the SEC, or at least the south. He's got some young talent coming in, as this upcoming class is supposed to be far and away the best that Lebo had anything to do with.

I like our odds.

I thought they were building a new arena too though?  Plus...Nike.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: AUChizad on March 19, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
I thought they were building a new arena too though?  Plus...Nike.
This is true. I admit to not knowing shit about Oregon athletics.

Apparently theirs is going to be even nicer than ours.

Quote
Statewide criticism

The projected construction cost of $200 million will make it the most expensive on campus basketball arena in the United States, and financing has been secured through state-backed 30-year bonds.[3] The university has been criticized for overstating the income estimates.

Regardless,  CBS kept mentioning Tubby being in the running for the Auburn job specifically. They said that he "also at one point was in the running for the Oregon job" as if that ship has sailed.

I dunno, but his team's out of the tournament now, so it could get exciting here soon.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: GH2001 on March 19, 2010, 03:39:24 PM
I think Oregon will have a 200 million dollar Arena to open next season.

Yahoo Sports is now reporting that Tubby is saying that he will stay put at Minnesota.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ga-tubby031910&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ga-tubby031910&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Of course, he said this at UGA too.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: The Prowler on March 19, 2010, 06:15:03 PM
A loaf of bread is better than Lebo.  Said it for many years now. 

I have no idea who would be willing to come to AU.  Smith knows the makeup of the SEC. He knows what he's up against if he comes.  He's a bigger and better hire than the guy Bama picked up last year when they whacked Gottfried.

I'd be happier with Smith than I was with Chizik.  Not ecstatic because he sort of faded at Kentucky (and you or I could win at KY), but from a PR standpoint it would be a high profile shot, yeah. 
So....basically you're just posting to state that you don't care who the coach is, that you don't know jack shit and that you're just posting to post.  Some people aren't happy when they're happy and you're one of those people.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Jumbo on March 19, 2010, 06:23:17 PM
Tubby just gave me a Chubby!
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 19, 2010, 08:02:04 PM
So....basically you're just posting to state that you don't care who the coach is, that you don't know jack shit and that you're just posting to post.  Some people aren't happy when they're happy and you're one of those people.

Sorry, but that's your forte.  I always know what I'm talking about and I'm always in a good mood. 

Suck on that.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: The Prowler on March 19, 2010, 11:44:41 PM
Sorry, but that's your forte.  I always know what I'm talking about and I'm always in a good mood. 

Suck on that.
Oh....I know Jack Shit and he told me, via text, that you don't know him.  Choke on that.  Last word, I win.

back to the topic:
I'd love to have Coach Tubby as the next Bball coach.  The next step would be to lift the self imposed no recruiting AAU players.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: jmar on March 22, 2010, 03:16:59 PM
Not to revisit an ongoing feud amongst brothers on this particular thread but I want Chuck Person because I think he will represent Auburn well for a long time in spite of having left early without a degree. No it is not ideal, and certainly not a preference but it is a drawback that can be overcome and I do not think it would have lasting repercussions. 
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: The Prowler on March 28, 2010, 01:52:03 PM
Auburn -- for whatever reason you want to use -- is not in a position to draw a top-flight coach.  Blame apathy, fanbase, facilities (not anymore), tradition, location, coaching, clueless AD, whatever makes you happy but the reality is that Auburn just isn't an attractive job.
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Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Kaos on March 28, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
Yes, really you numbskull.

Barbee is a rising coach with an ooportunty to prove himself. He is not an established name.

Your light dims by the day.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: The Prowler on March 28, 2010, 07:14:54 PM
Yes, really you numbskull.

Barbee is a rising coach with an ooportunty to prove himself. He is not an established name.

Your light dims by the day.
Coach Barbee is a top-flight coach that was attracted to Auburn...and he's a top-flight recruiter.  I agree, Auburn is a place where Coach Barbee will have the "ooportunty" (whatever that means) to prove himself as the best coach in NCAA History.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 29, 2010, 07:38:59 AM
to prove himself as the best coach in NCAA History.

Look I am as excited about this hire as anyone but he isn't even at the level where he could carry the jock straps of any of the best corches in NCAA history.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 29, 2010, 08:41:43 AM
Look I am as excited about this hire as anyone but he isn't even at the level where he could carry the jock straps of any of the best corches in NCAA history.

Why bother?
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 29, 2010, 09:34:14 AM
Why bother?

Boooooooooo.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Godfather on March 29, 2010, 09:41:33 AM
Boooooooooo.
So bow down to her if you want, bow to her. Bow to the Queen of Slime, the Queen of Filth, the Queen of Putrescence. Boo. Boo. Rubbish. Filth. Slime. Muck. Boo. Boo. Boo.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 29, 2010, 10:05:55 AM
So bow down to her if you want, bow to her. Bow to the Queen of Slime, the Queen of Filth, the Queen of Putrescence. Boo. Boo. Rubbish. Filth. Slime. Muck. Boo. Boo. Boo.

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Godfather on March 29, 2010, 10:43:01 AM
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Watch out for the R.O.U.S.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 29, 2010, 11:15:14 AM
Watch out for the R.O.U.S.

You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Tiger Wench on March 29, 2010, 11:53:19 AM
You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
Tyrone, you know how much I love watching you work, but I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder and Guilder to frame for it; I'm swamped.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Godfather on March 29, 2010, 12:21:51 PM
Tyrone, you know how much I love watching you work, but I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder and Guilder to frame for it; I'm swamped.

Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, then you haven't got anything.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 29, 2010, 02:24:35 PM
Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, then you haven't got anything.

You mean, you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword, and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Godfather on March 29, 2010, 03:49:46 PM
You mean, you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword, and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?
You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"!
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Saniflush on March 29, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"!

Sonny, true love is the greatest thing in the world. Except for a nice MLT: a mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Tiger Wench on March 29, 2010, 04:01:32 PM
Sonny, true love is the greatest thing in the world. Except for a nice MLT: a mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that.
The King's stinking son fired me, and thank you so much for bringing up such a painful subject. While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it? We're closed.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: Aubie16 on March 29, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: CCTAU on April 02, 2010, 12:41:35 PM
I've put a lot of thought into this. I think I would like to see Tony Barbee as our next head coach. I'll call Jay and make it happen.
Title: Re: Who Do You Want As New Basketball HC?
Post by: The Prowler on April 03, 2010, 10:06:41 AM
I've put a lot of thought into this. I think I would like to see Tony Barbee as our next head coach. I'll call Jay and make it happen.
Excellent work.  Three cheers for CCT, HIP HIP HOORAY....