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Suit accuses 2 other AU players of assault in Smith case
By Jon Solomon -- The Birmingham News
November 17, 2009, 4:14PM
A lawsuit against Auburn University running back Eric Smith accuses two other Auburn football players of also assaulting the victim and a friend during the August incident.
Decari Jenkins, a student at Auburn, alleges that he was injured after being assaulted by Smith and two unnamed players, according to a lawsuit filed today in U.S. District Court in Montgomery. Jenkins is seeking unspecified damages and claims he has permanent scarring to his face and Post Concussion Syndrome that has affected his ability to complete college.
This is the first time additional Auburn football players have been accused of being involved in the Aug. 21 incident, which led to Smith's arrest and his missing one football game. Jenkins claims in the suit that when Smith was handcuffed, other Auburn football players identified Smith as a player and asked Auburn police "what could be done."
The lawsuit says Jenkins was attending a function at the Lexington Hotel when approached by two unnamed Auburn football players who acted in a "provocative and belligerent manner." Jenkins' friend, who was also unnamed, stepped between him and the players and stated, "We don't want any trouble," according to the lawsuit.
Jenkins contends his friend was then immediately punched by one of the players and rendered unconscious. Smith then approached Jenkins in a "hostile and aggressive manner" and slapped a drink from his hand, the lawsuit says.
Smith, with the aid of teammates, "began to pummel Plaintfiff Jenkins with hands and fists about his face and body," the lawsuit claims. "Though Plaintfiff attempted to defend himself, he was knocked to the floor where Defendant Smith and his cohorts continued to punch and kick him."
Jenkins says he escaped and fled down the outside stairway to the front of the hotel. While outside, Jenkins claims, Smith ran toward him and punched him in the back of his head with four Auburn city police officers standing nearby.
"Defendant Smith then kicked the Plaintiff, turned away from the officers, and casually walked away as if nothing had happened, leaving Jenkins unconscious in a pool of blood," the lawsuit states.
Smith was charged with disorderly conduct. He pleaded guilty and was granted youthful offender status.
A police report said Smith told officers that Jenkins had punched him earlier in the evening. According to the report, officers said Smith appeared to have blood coming from his nose. Smith filed a harassment charge against Jenkins that was later dismissed with prejudice, according to Jenkins' lawsuit.
Smith has rushed for 99 yards on 20 carries. He is Auburn's fourth-leading receiver with 17 catches for 225 yards.
An Auburn official said this afternoon he was unfamiliar with the lawsuit and had no immediate comment.
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Some notes:
- The plaintiff's lawyer alleged that this is a common occurrence with Auburn football players. The athletic department is covering up the incidents.
- She was on Finebaum's show discussing the case.
- Her name is Wendy Crew...you know, the lady that represented the joker on I-459 that was brutally knocked around by police officers.
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Some notes:
- The plaintiff's lawyer alleged that this is a common occurrence with Auburn football players. The athletic department is covering up the incidents.
- She was on Finebaum's show discussing the case.
- Her name is Wendy Crew...you know, the lady that represented the joker on I-459 that was brutally knocked around by police officers.
Anyone question the timing of this kind of shit?
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Anyone question the timing of this kind of shit?
Of course not. The first caller was Shane from Centerpoint. He wanted to ask Wendy if she was going to expose the gang mentality in Auburn.
I turned it off after that.
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Of course not. The first caller was Shane from Centerpoint. He wanted to ask Wendy if she was going to expose the gang mentality in Auburn.
I turned it off after that.
They've gone back to that "gang" phrase a lot.
What a bunch of bullshit!
There's no gang mentality.
Finebaum :pot:
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Anyone question the timing of this kind of poop?
Good point, after the commits and before signing not to mention the Iron Bowl. My question is this Wendy B. Crew attorney, is she like involved in the case and can she back up her claim that this type of thing happens all the time and is covered up? I think she needs an attorney now, even though she is one. She should be held libel for making those accusations without hard evidence. I say shut her the fuck up with a suit for defamation of character. One count for every Auburn coach, athletic director and anyone else who wants her ass to shut the fuck up.
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She should be held libel for making those accusations without hard evidence.
Pun intended?
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Good point, after the commits and before signing not to mention the Iron Bowl. My question is this Wendy B. Crew attorney, is she like involved in the case and can she back up her claim that this type of thing happens all the time and is covered up? I think she needs an attorney now, even though she is one. She should be held libel for making those accusations without hard evidence. I say shut her the phuk up with a suit for defamation of character. One count for every Auburn coach, athletic director and anyone else who wants her ass to shut the phuk up.
She must be one ugly bitch. No photos.
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She must be one ugly bitch. No photos.
Dr. Lecter would call her "roomy."
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The thing that pisses me off is that she keeps on and on about how badly he was beaten and his permanent injuries. If the injuries were so severe and permanent Smith would have been charged with assault 2nd (a felony) not assault 3rd (misdemeanor)?
Secondly how many other clients does she have in the hundreds of misdemeanor campus fights that happen across this state? Did she pick this one because Smith is a football player and has a very slim chance of playing professionally?
Third, why did her clients mother approach the athletic department? Was it because she had her hand out to make it go away?
Something stinks....
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She must be one ugly bitch. No photos.
Still looking.
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So that I am not to offend any justice seeking professionals on this website, I shall withhold the excessively strong opinions that I may, or may not have, regarding this subject, to myself.
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The thing that pisses me off is that she keeps on and on about how badly he was beaten and his permanent injuries. If the injuries were so severe and permanent Smith would have been charged with assault 2nd (a felony) not assault 3rd (misdemeanor)?
Secondly how many other clients does she have in the hundreds of misdemeanor campus fights that happen across this state? Did she pick this one because Smith is a football player and has a very slim chance of playing professionally?
Third, why did her clients mother approach the athletic department? Was it because she had her hand out to make it go away?
Something stinks....
I think her case if very weak and Finescum promotes anything anti-Auburn. If her case were strong she would not have been live on Finescum giving up anything. She would wait until after the case was settled in court. I think she's wanting a settlement out of court, thus the recent publicity. If she can't get it, she may lose any chance in a civil court. Please correct me if you think I'm wrong, because I'm no detective or lawyer. I'm still trying to figure out women.
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So that I am not to offend any justice seeking professionals on this website, I shall withhold the excessively strong opinions that I may, or may not have, regarding this subject, to myself.
Aww, come on man.
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We have enough lawyers on this board to get an explanation. Damnit, AWK. Earn your degree!
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I can't figure out how to get the pic, but go to this site. Wendy Crew in a picture with Joe Nameth. First one that scrolls by. Click it.
http://www.crewandhowell.com/personalities/ (http://www.crewandhowell.com/personalities/)
Fuck that bammer bitch.
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Just because she was on finebaum doesn't really shed light on the weight of her case. With that being said, she probably should have not been a guest on his show. I see no benefit to it.
I'm just intrigued as to why she chose to file it in U.S. District Court in Alabama? This tells me one thing though, she is claiming at least $75,000 in damages.
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I'm just intrigued as to why she chose to file it in U.S. District Court in Alabama? This tells me one thing though, she is claiming at least $75,000 in damages.
Honestly, that's the meat and potatoes of this entire situation. Justice, be damned.
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Honestly, that's the meat and potatoes of this entire situation. Justice, be damned.
Dear Sir,
If you knew anything, which you don't, you would know that to file a civil case in federal court that does not deal with a federal question, you need diversity of citizenship and you have to meet the $75,000 amount in controversy requirement.
Signed,
J. Cochran
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Just because she was on finebaum doesn't really shed light on the weight of her case. With that being said, she probably should have not been a guest on his show. I see no benefit to it.
I'm just intrigued as to why she chose to file it in U.S. District Court in Alabama? This tells me one thing though, she is claiming at least $75,000 in damages.
It has nothing to do with the case. Really. Nothing.
This will be talked about ad nauseum for the next week. Hell, even more than that. When Eric Smith still plays in the Iron Bowl and isn't punished further, it will be a talking point until February. The media will try to tarnish Chizik's reputation as a good disciplinarian without basing anything on actual facts.
Why was she on Finebaum? And why the hell was she taking callers? This case was just released today, and she's already out helping spread the idea that Eric Smith and other football players are getting away with violence. Nothing's been proven except that Eric Smith was charged with third degree assault. Third degree is the least of the three, correct?
So what this amounts to me is an effort to cause controversy, and it was started by none other than Paul Finebaum.
This man would know what to do:
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Pun intended?
Now that you mentioned it.
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Dear Sir,
If you knew anything, which you don't, you would know that to file a civil case in federal court that does not deal with a federal question, you need diversity of citizenship and you have to meet the $75,000 amount in controversy requirement.
Signed,
J. Cochran
Let me rephrase my dialect in a way that you, Mr Cochran, will understand.
It's all bout da bigheads, yo.
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Okay a few things stand out to me about this whole situation....apparently Decari was just minding his own business, didn't do anything, just standing there with a certain woman friend (something that Fuckhead and Shithead never asked who the woman was....word on the skreets was that it was Eric Smith's Ex-girlfriend) and that was it, apparently Decari didn't say or do anything to provoke a sober Smith.
This:
This is the first time additional Auburn football players have been accused of being involved in the Aug. 21 incident, which led to Smith's arrest and his missing one football game. Jenkins claims in the suit that when Smith was handcuffed, other Auburn football players identified Smith as a player and asked Auburn police "what could be done."
I thought Decari was knocked unconsious when Eric Smith donkey punched him...so, how could he claim anything after being knocked out?
and this:
Jenkins says he escaped and fled down the outside stairway to the front of the hotel. While outside, Jenkins claims, Smith ran toward him and punched him in the back of his head with four Auburn city police officers standing nearby.
Again, how could you claim knowing who hit you in the back of your head and knocked you unconsious (while trying to call someone). Also, why was there 4 Auburn city police officers standing not far away? Earlier reporters where that they were arresting someone else when all of this happened....but now, they were just there? Eating a donut or something?
Also with the way that Mrs. Crew was making it sound like, the police officers just sat there and watched it all unfold...again, while eating a donut. Fuckhead even asked her if the officers did anything. That's when she said, oh yeah, they arrested him. I loved how she kept going into detail about the oozing blood, gushing everywhere...blood all over the place, again, while the Auburn police officers just stood there. This was a completely one sided story and the other side of the story, more than likely, won't be told on the Fuckhead talk show. Eventhough, he'll keep asking for other people to come forward, from the other side of the story.
Oh yeah, and apparently he and Shithead have seen a video of all of this transpiring, at first he said that he saw it a month or two ago...then he quickly said a week or two ago. So basically, there's not a video...but he's not going to let that hurt his story, that'll be talked about until....Dec. 21st 2012.
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She did not shed any light on anything we didn't already know. Smith beat the phuck out of a guy.
He was granted YO in municipal court. She stated the PD acted properly and they were the ones who filed the charges. Anything else is just smoke and mirrors to get a check.
I still suspect his mommy went to the athletic department with her hand out and when they said phuck off, she then started shopping for lawyers.
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Okay a few things stand out to me about this whole situation....apparently Decari was just minding his own business, didn't do anything, just standing there with a certain woman friend (something that Fuckhead and Shithead never asked who the woman was....word on the skreets was that it was Eric Smith's Ex-girlfriend) and that was it, apparently Decari didn't say or do anything to provoke a sober Smith.
This:
I thought Decari was knocked unconsious when Eric Smith donkey punched him...so, how could he claim anything after being knocked out?
and this:
Again, how could you claim knowing who hit you in the back of your head and knocked you unconsious (while trying to call someone). Also, why was there 4 Auburn city police officers standing not far away? Earlier reporters where that they were arresting someone else when all of this happened....but now, they were just there? Eating a donut or something?
Also with the way that Mrs. Crew was making it sound like, the police officers just sat there and watched it all unfold...again, while eating a donut. Fuckhead even asked her if the officers did anything. That's when she said, oh yeah, they arrested him. I loved how she kept going into detail about the oozing blood, gushing everywhere...blood all over the place, again, while the Auburn police officers just stood there. This was a completely one sided story and the other side of the story, more than likely, won't be told on the Fuckhead talk show. Eventhough, he'll keep asking for other people to come forward, from the other side of the story.
Oh yeah, and apparently he and Shithead have seen a video of all of this transpiring, at first he said that he saw it a month or two ago...then he quickly said a week or two ago. So basically, there's not a video...but he's not going to let that hurt his story, that'll be talked about until....Dec. 21st 2012.
I really think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The defendant's side of it is just way too squeaky clean. More than likely, both of them probably made some bad decisions that night.
Oh, and as for your second quote in your sig? I don't think I said that phrase anywhere.
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I really think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The defendant's side of it is just way too squeaky clean. More than likely, both of them probably made some bad decisions that night.
Oh, and as for your second quote in your sig? I don't think I said that phrase anywhere.
I agree...the truth is in the middle. When Mrs. Crew said that Decari went outside and was calling someone, before (her words) "Eric Smith used monumental force when hitting her client in the back of the head", who was he calling? His "boys"?
Also, you started a topic about the quote.
This:
Not making fun of any AU player getting hurt. Just making fun of Ben Tate being a bitch.
and This:
There's 3 Yes votes
So yeah, you said it.
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I agree...the truth is in the middle. When Mrs. Crew said that Decari went outside and was calling someone, before (her words) "Eric Smith used monumental force when hitting her client in the back of the head", who was he calling? His "boys"?
Also, you started a topic about the quote.
So yeah, you said it.
Also, there's 3 votes and you were one of them.
Soooo, are you just going ahead and saying y'all are going to lose to Alabama? I'm trying to figure out where "when" came from? The question was:
Will Ben Tate cry like a bitch on the sidelines if Alabama beats Auburn?
But hey, if Alabama winning means you're going to put a fail in your sig, then I'm ok with that.
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Soooo, are you just going ahead and saying y'all are going to lose to Alabama? I'm trying to figure out where "when" came from? The question was:
Will Ben Tate cry like a bitch on the sidelines if Alabama beats Auburn?
But hey, if Alabama winning means you're going to put a fail in your sig, then I'm ok with that.
Just make sure you're on this board at about 5:00pm, we'll tell you who won.
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A couple of things to keep in mind. This is strictly a publicity stunt...whatever the motivations may be. Criminal charges were filed against Smith. Those will play out in Court, whether they prosecute the case and take it to trial or Smith reaches some agreement, whether he pleas through Deferred Prosecution, charges are dropped etc. Smith isn't going to do jail time and if whatever happens is made public, it's a travesty.
Now, this is a civil suit filed against Smith and claiming money damages. As AWK said, claiming in excess of $75K, which is mandatory to go through that Court system. First, it changes nothing and has no bearing on whether or not Chizik should change his stance on Smith's eligibility. Second, she is suing an individual, Eric Smith. The University is NOT liable no matter how she wants to portray it in her Complaint. Auburn University doesn't owe Eric Smith a defense any more than they owe Joe Fratboy a defense for donkey punching Pete Preppy on Toomer's Corner at midnight. This has nothing to do with the University or the Auburn Football Program. If they are named or brought in..they file a DJ action and they're out. So, let's say they go forward with their suit and take it to a jury and get a verdict for $16 Kwazillion. Who is going to pay that judgment? The University? No. Eric Smith's family's Homeowner policy? No. Eric Smith? Sure...if they want $22.00/mo. So what do they gain?
Bottom line..publicity stunt with motives far beyond trying to help her poor, tortured, brain dead, permanently injured client. Hmmm...
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Bottom line..publicity stunt with motives far beyond trying to help her poor, tortured, brain dead, permanently injured client. Hmmm...
Operation RedDog counterstrike.
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Operation RedDog counterstrike.
ORDC? Hadn't thought of that one. You could be on to something.
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A couple of things to keep in mind. This is strictly a publicity stunt...whatever the motivations may be. Criminal charges were filed against Smith. Those will play out in Court, whether they prosecute the case and take it to trial or Smith reaches some agreement, whether he pleas through Deferred Prosecution, charges are dropped etc. Smith isn't going to do jail time and if whatever happens is made public, it's a travesty.
Now, this is a civil suit filed against Smith and claiming money damages. As AWK said, claiming in excess of $75K, which is mandatory to go through that Court system. First, it changes nothing and has no bearing on whether or not Chizik should change his stance on Smith's eligibility. Second, she is suing an individual, Eric Smith. The University is NOT liable no matter how she wants to portray it in her Complaint. Auburn University doesn't owe Eric Smith a defense any more than they owe Joe Fratboy a defense for donkey punching Pete Preppy on Toomer's Corner at midnight. This has nothing to do with the University or the Auburn Football Program. If they are named or brought in..they file a DJ action and they're out. So, let's say they go forward with their suit and take it to a jury and get a verdict for $16 Kwazillion. Who is going to pay that judgment? The University? No. Eric Smith's family's Homeowner policy? No. Eric Smith? Sure...if they want $22.00/mo. So what do they gain?
Bottom line..publicity stunt with motives far beyond trying to help her poor, tortured, brain dead, permanently injured client. Hmmm...
Exactly.
This is a lawyer trying to get a name, and a dumbass plaintiff. Also, the media just loves this kind of shit.
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A couple of things to keep in mind. This is strictly a publicity stunt...whatever the motivations may be. Criminal charges were filed against Smith. Those will play out in Court, whether they prosecute the case and take it to trial or Smith reaches some agreement, whether he pleas through Deferred Prosecution, charges are dropped etc. Smith isn't going to do jail time and if whatever happens is made public, it's a travesty.
Now, this is a civil suit filed against Smith and claiming money damages. As AWK said, claiming in excess of $75K, which is mandatory to go through that Court system. First, it changes nothing and has no bearing on whether or not Chizik should change his stance on Smith's eligibility. Second, she is suing an individual, Eric Smith. The University is NOT liable no matter how she wants to portray it in her Complaint. Auburn University doesn't owe Eric Smith a defense any more than they owe Joe Fratboy a defense for donkey punching Pete Preppy on Toomer's Corner at midnight. This has nothing to do with the University or the Auburn Football Program. If they are named or brought in..they file a DJ action and they're out. So, let's say they go forward with their suit and take it to a jury and get a verdict for $16 Kwazillion. Who is going to pay that judgment? The University? No. Eric Smith's family's Homeowner policy? No. Eric Smith? Sure...if they want $22.00/mo. So what do they gain?
Bottom line..publicity stunt with motives far beyond trying to help her poor, tortured, brain dead, permanently injured client. Hmmm...
He already pled guilty in court and got youthful offender status.
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He already pled guilty in court and got youthful offender status.
I didn't know he made a plea. You don't have to make a guilty plea to get YO.
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Character assassination.
Paul Finebaum and any of his REC brethren will do anything - ANYTHING - to disparage the athletics program at Auburn University as well as the coaches associated with it.
This whole gang mentality bullshit is just another way to introduce criticism of coaches Finebaum deemed as "thugish" a while back.
That's all this is.
Bammers are never satisfied with being on top. They have to see others suffer needlessly in order to achieve climax and joy.
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Every time I see those old Vikings and Brute Squad types in the commercials decking out their Capital One Credit cards.... I think Bammer.... Hmmm..... Especially when the little bearded kid comes in and tells daddy that momma said the guys gotta go.
...just sayin...
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I was going to bring this up this morning.
Listen I know how Finescum operates...hes a shock jock, I get it. He is also a bama fan or at least pretends to be one for ratings obviously. The guy is a slimeball but he is good at what he does.
I listen to him mostly because at least he talks SEC football and for the most part has on good guests. I do so knowing of my own free will that he caters to that side, so I don't let it bother me. I am in S. Florida so unless I want to hear about the U, I have to get my SEC fix from somewhere.
Anyways for those of you that don't listen or haven't heard, Finescum yesterday afternoon brought on the Lawyer who has filed a civil suit (on behalf of Decori Jenkins sp?) against Eric Smith. Much like Sensible said it was a smear campaign of epic proportions. Not much pisses me off or gets under my skin....this did, only because this has nothing to do with Auburn or Alabama or sports radio, what he did was utter and completely wrong. How can you bring someone who is obviously biased and represent one side of the story against a kid who has made a mistake. This lawyer painted the scenario (as they would) that her client did nothing, he was just attacked. It was the biggest fucking joke I have ever heard. I don't know the full details of the story, never will, but I am pretty confident that both parties were to blame that is usually the way it works. I am also not saying Eric Smith is wrong, if they want to file a civil suit against him that is their right. However for a member of the media to bring this lawyer in and effectively taint a listening audience purely for spite (because I can think of no other reason) is vile and disgusting.
He is a piece of shit, and I will no longer bother to listen to him. Anyone know of any other stations throughout the south that talk SEC football in the afternoons?
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Well stated, Godfather. Unfortunately, there aren't many SEC-focused shows during his time slot. From 4 pm CST, you can hear Auburn homer talk on www.sportscallonline.com (http://www.sportscallonline.com) with Bill Cameron and associates. It's usually a fun show and is all-Auburn focused.
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I don't know.
You're both right on everything you say, and to be honest, I agree with 98% of it. However, there's this little 2% still there pointing out that in the four years I've been traveling around the south for work, and every stretch of the SEC, very few even know who Paul Finebaum is.
I point out that despite his efforts, even before this story, we're bringing in the number one recruit in the state (who's grown up with Finebaum and the campaigns he brings). We're also bringing in the #1 recruits from at least two southern states.
In the end, I think he just does a really good job of pissing Auburn fans off that just can't seem to turn the dial when he comes on.
I enjoy my XM and national sports talk, and when I'm ready for an Auburn, or SEC fix, I head to the boards here or talk with fellow Auburn folks that know better.
Just my opinion...
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...we're bringing in the number one recruit in the state...
Who? I know we had some top guys, but wasn't aware we had the #1 player in the state.
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Who? I know we had some top guys, but wasn't aware we had the #1 player in the state.
My apologies Sens... I meant MS... The three #1 state recruits we have committed are:
#1 Prospect from Arkansas (Michael Dyer)
#1 Prospect from Louisiana (Trovon Reed)
#1 Prospect from Mississippi (Shon Coleman)
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Thanks.
Admittedly, I don't start following recruiting until the month before signing day.
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He is a piece of poop, and I will no longer bother to listen to him. Anyone know of any other stations throughout the south that talk SEC football in the afternoons?
I would add Cole Cubelic as a friend on Facebook. He is always listing times and shows around the state that he is on. Ben Leard at 97.7 FM in Auburn. Johnny Franks @ 103.9 fm in Huntsville. Decatur 1400am espn radio. These are few that he has posted on his wall which he has participated. ESPN radio locally is about the best shot. I don't listen to too much sports radio, so I can't vouch for more that I stated. Good luck.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=520046829&ref=nf (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=520046829&ref=nf)
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Thanks.
Admittedly, I don't start following recruiting until the month before signing day.
An interesting tid-bit though... I believe (do NOT know for sure, someone correct me if I'm wrong) We either lead, or have pulled even with "in-state" recruiting over Alabama right now.
Kind of pulls on my point about F'bomb. I think he does a better job of pissing fans off than he does actual recruits.
I'd STILL love to see someone punch that fucker in the taint though. :bc:
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I didn't know he made a plea. You don't have to make a guilty plea to get YO.
Well, according to the story he pled guilty, anyways.
Smith was charged with disorderly conduct. He pleaded guilty and was granted youthful offender status.
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680 the fan in Atlanta mid day guys Chuck and Chernoff have a college football themed show (obviously with falcons, hawks and braves talk mixed in) Chuck Oliver is an Auburn graduate and the shows producer Chadd Scott is also an Auburn graduate. They are on 11-2 central. They stream the show online and I think its worth listening to (or on a partly cloudy day you can pick up the station here in God's country).
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As Brian said, PF is good at what he does and he understands that his bread is buttered by catering to the unwashed masses. That means making sure his show centers around Bama, whether it's positive or negative. That also means making sure any negative tidbit that surfaces about Bama's biggest rival is blown out of proportion.
I would tend to disagree concerning the ability to get "SEC" news from his show. Having Barbara Dooley on each week and making fun of Pat Dye is about the extent of that for Finedung. He does have the ability to get great guests but unfornunately, if that guest can't somehow bring his/her topic back around to Bama football, they have no relevance on his show. I turned him on a few weeks back and he had this beat writer on from Louisville when the whole Pitino affair thing was all the rage. I thought to myself, hey..something besides Bama talk..might be worth a listen. I promise you the 2nd thing I heard out of Finedongs mouth was something to the effect of.."This would almost be like something coming out about Nick Saban..blah, blah, blah.."
Let me get this straight, you're interviewing a beat writer from the State of Kentucky about a scandal involving one of the most high profile basketball coaches in the business...and you're asking him questions about Nick Saban? But, that's what made his listeners perk up. Prior to that, they were all going, "Whut thuh hayull's he tawkin' bout baskitbaw fer? I wanna' know whut thuh almaghty Saybin had fer brekfast an thuh consistinsee of his poop afterwurds."
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Didn't realize there were 2 topics on this...Eric Smith Goes to Washington and What does a civil suit have to do with anything....Have been merged.
-Titan Out
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Didn't realize there were 2 topics on this...Eric Smith Goes to Washington and What does a civil suit have to do with anything....Have been merged.
-Titan Out
God Dammit, you are one hell of a man.
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God Dammit, you are one hell of a man.
He has an immense e-penis. He says it smells of mahogany.
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God Dammit, you are one hell of a man.
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:doh:
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It's extra funny that you made that for him, and he wore it in his sig as badge of honor.
Not as funny as the one WarTim proudly displayed though. I'm sure you have that in your vault.
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When's the father of the woman Courtney Upshaw assaulted on Finebaum?
Oh, that's right. That's a non-sports story and doesn't belong on his airwaves.
:pee: Finebaum
:shitfan:
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When's the father of the woman Courtney Upshaw assaulted on Finebaum?
Oh, that's right. That's a non-sports story and doesn't belong on his airwaves.
Wait. Is The Machine at it again?
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Jenkins' mommy on finebaum now.
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Jenkins' mommy on finebaum now.
Give us the Cliffs........I refuse to listen to his show.
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She basically feels like Smith got off easy and wants payback. She said when she attempted to contact someone in the athletic office they blew her off and contacted her later. She would not go into details about the dialogue between her and AU. The reason she claims she got an attorney for her son is when Smith filed a counter warrant on her son. She said if you talk to the "black" students at AU they are afraid of the football team and that there are a few of the players that don't deserve to be on the team.
Her son was valedictorian at his HS and is an angel. He has never and would never start a fight with anyone. All of his neighbors sent him get well cards. He missed a week of school and now has a scar on his head for no reason.
Finebaum keeps talking about how shocking the video was he saw and that there are reports that there are multiple tapes out there. He also claims a prominent member of the football team was present that night.
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Mummy sounded as innocent as a Ms. Daisy. Soft spoken. Sweet hearted.
And she's an Auburn fan too. Here baby boy has NEVER been in trouble. He's just an angel. She likes Auburn, though. She's just upset that no one is looking out for Decari. Chizik was happy. The fans were happy. Eric Smith was happy. But no one asked Decari if he was happy. No one is speaking for him. That's why she got Wendy Crew. Someone needs to speak up for Decari.
Fuuuucccckkkkk me. This is THE most frustrating story I've seen yet. The Trooper Taylor "mcnugga" bullshit was bad enough, but this is awful.
Then, after the replay of the interview, a Bama fan comes in all high and mighty about how all fans from both teams should feel for Decari's mother. Anyone who has a heart should feel sympathy for a wonderful, sincere woman like Sonja Jenkins. He also said that all parents should look after their children like Sonja did. We should never be okay with football players getting away with violence on innocent people, and we definitely should have parents that are willing to stand up to football programs to ensure justice is being served correctly.
WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU WHEN COURTNEY UPSHAW ASSAULTED THAT GIRL? AND WHAT ABOUT HOW HER FATHER SCREAMED "ROLL TIDE" WHEN UPSHAW WAS CLEARED?
I need a drink. :bar:
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According to Shane Corn the two other players with Smith were D. Adams and N. Thorpe.
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According to Shane Corn the two other players with Smith were D. Adams and N. Thorpe.
Shouldn't matter.
The situation has been dealt with. If they want money, fine. Sue for money.
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I say take that shit to Trial....If I'm Eric Smith's attorney, I'm loving it that Wendy Crew went on the Fuckhead talk show and tried to "Taint the Jury" with her graphic dipictions of the incident and the entire lawsuit....not a good idea. Does that put Mrs. Crew in line for possible Disbarment? Probably not. But, ES's attorney can ask for a change of venue, meaning out of state, correct?
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I heard Neiko was supposed to be the one that clocked the dude....but Jenkins made one juke move and left Thorpe standing there.
Smith had to chase him down.
Darren Bates was nowhere to be found.
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I heard Neiko was supposed to be the one that clocked the dude....but Jenkins made one juke move and left Thorpe standing there.
Smith had to chase him down.
Darren Bates was nowhere to be found.
Nicely Played Sir!
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From a lawyer who read the case file:
It is short and poorly written. ES is the only named defendant. However, the complaint goes back and forth between "defendant" and "defendants." The claim for punitive damages is laughable and not supported by the law. She attempts to get punitive damages because of ES's status as a "well known football figure" and to deter future conduct by him and "others in his position."
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She said if you talk to the "black" students at AU they are afraid of the football team and that there are a few of the players that don't deserve to be on the team.
I had a friend at Auburn whose parents were from Zimbabwe, He grew up in Bham, but he was terrified of most Black People. I always found that funny, he listened to Pearl Jam and played role playing games.
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I had a friend at Auburn whose parents were from Zimbabwe, He grew up in Bham, but he was terrified of most Black People. I always found that funny, he listened to Pearl Jam and played role playing games.
It's just the cultural differences.
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It's just the cultural differences.
So you're saying that people from Zimbabwe are really in to World of Warcraft?
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No the ones that make it here.
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I heard Neiko was supposed to be the one that clocked the dude....but Jenkins made one juke move and left Thorpe standing there.
Smith had to chase him down.
Darren Bates was nowhere to be found jumped on the pile after the fight was done.
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Just make sure you're on this board at about 5:00pm, we'll tell you who won.
I was here, looking for you to tell me who won.....
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I was here, looking for you to tell me who won.....
I would've told you that Auburn lost the game. The reason why I made that post was because I figured that you didn't even watch the game.
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Some points and thoughts on this...
I've dealt with Wendy Crew professionally. She does lots of domestic relations, and is also a 1983 suit guru. (That's civil rights violations for you non legal types) I dealt with her on one such suit. I can't disclose a lot, but it involved a person in law enforcement and sexual favors/contact. There were criminal charges, and a civil suit. When you hear her talk about "justice" remember this...in the matter I was involved in, they got paid via settlement in on the civil side...when the criminal matter came up for trial, the "victim" was on a cruise...crimial case dismissed.
Lots of things stink about this case. On one hand she's claiming lasting/permanent injury, yet she did nothing (and she was involved at the time) to see that the case was presented to a grand jury for felony Assault II charges. Victims have a little say in how criminal matters are disposed of, and if he had permanent injuries it should have been a felony. It was handled in city court where misdemeanors are handled...where she claims the police and prosecutors "did everything right" as she put it on the F'bomb show.
Theres supposed to be a video according F'bomb (which he claims will make your hair stand on end at the violence), but Crew hasn't seen it? One claim or the other is bullshit!
F'bomb claims police watched this brutal attack that Crew claims left her client laying unconscience in a "pool of blood", but police (who did everthing right) merely walked over and help him up, and Smith walked or ran off, depending on who is telling the story.
It's no coincidence that from the get go Shane has been talking about "civil suits to be filed" with F'bomb playing along. I heard this prior to his guilty plea. By the way, any guilty plea would have neccessarily included a claim for restitution for medical bills, and been ordered by the court either by the agreement of the parties, or after a hearing proving them, or in the alternative the victim could waive them and sue for them civilly. IF it was set then, they'll have a very hard time claiming more at this point. And any they got paid will offset what they collect.
Kaos mentioned the timing. In fact, cases like this usually (any of you civil lawyers can correct me here if I'm wrong) involve the sending of letters to potential defendants with claims, in hopes that it will go away quietly with a settlement before any suit is ever filed. Filing suit with no such requests for settlement, and doing so this quickly smacks of grandstanding and publicity whoring. The EXACT timing isn't going unnoticed either. Finally, I'd have to see her complaint, but IF she alleged an intentional assault, no insurance will pay, at least none associated with Eric Smith. She'd have to have a negligence claim against the hotel for failure to provide security, OR against Auburn U. for something else. That's coming folks, bank on it...they're already setting it up...Eric Smith has no money, and aint no NFL prospect either.
So, one of two things is set to happen here. They either find some way to make a claim against AU (I don't do civil work, and don't know how they'd get to that), OR they intend to play this out in the media to hurt Auburn's recruiting with allegations of "gangs on the football team" and "students terrorized by some group of players". Well know more when there's matters about this case that are suddenly news worthy around the middle of January, that play out, oh til about NSD. The other is they hope to get a wad of cash out of Auburn, or that hotel, and as a by product smear Auburn in the process.
Questions I have: How did a misdemeanor/YO pled college ass-whippin' turn in to a Fed. Civil Suit? How did Wendy Crew (who happens to be, lets say, a "friend" of the F'bomb network) come to be the name put in this young victim's mother's ear when, by her claim, because her son was charged in a cross complaint he needed an attorney. How the fuck did she come to hire Wendy Crew, who claims to be on retained on a contengency basis, and who doesn't do criminal defense, and works in Birmingham for the most part? How did Shane and F'bomb know this was coming, and clearly they did from nearly the start?
Somebody with some time