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Title: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 29, 2021, 11:10:24 AM
All of our brackets went to shit early and mine was no different.
I chose Illinois. Pretty shitty! however I must point out that I'm still atop of the board among you losers meaning your picks were shittier than mine.

Bamer go down.

Told my Roh Tahd buddy that not only could his team not make free throws which was obvious; they didn't play aggressive enough early defensively, Shackleford and Petty not getting their first fouls until the 5:30 Mark of the second half.
You get 5 last I checked.
I lost twenty bucks on the fuckers thinking UCLA was the weakest entry among the remaining Pac12 teams. 

Anybody up for some discussion?



Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 29, 2021, 12:20:10 PM
The only good thing I have seen so far in the tourney was the bammer wailing and gnashing of teeth I have seen since last night over a "foul" that wasn't called.  Fuck bammer and fuck georgia.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 29, 2021, 12:54:54 PM
The only good thing I have seen so far in the tourney was the bammer wailing and gnashing of teeth I have seen since last night over a "foul" that wasn't called.  Fuck bammer and fuck georgia.
Hell they were dead in the water until Rees hit that prayer of a 3 to send it to O.T.
One solitary foul had no bearing on the outcome.

:aoop:
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Token on March 29, 2021, 04:50:15 PM
11/25 from the line gets you beat 10 out of 10 times in March.  Whether it was a foul or not was irrelevant because they couldn’t hit the fuckers anyway. Luckily for me I had to come back yesterday so I wasn’t there to lose money in Bama but I made some good money Saturday on those games. Mirage sports book vip booth is with the money they charge.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 29, 2021, 05:25:44 PM
11/25 from the line gets you beat 10 out of 10 times in March.  Whether it was a foul or not was irrelevant because they couldn’t hit the fuckers anyway. Luckily for me I had to come back yesterday so I wasn’t there to lose money in Bama but I made some good money Saturday on those games. Mirage sports book vip booth is with the money they charge.
#winning

Nice to know. I got out to a lead and then started spinning my wheels. Might need a Brinks tow truck.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on March 29, 2021, 05:29:54 PM
11/25 from the line gets you beat 10 out of 10 times in March.  Whether it was a foul or not was irrelevant because they couldn’t hit the fuckers anyway. Luckily for me I had to come back yesterday so I wasn’t there to lose money in Bama but I made some good money Saturday on those games. Mirage sports book vip booth is with the money they charge.

So does being overrated against quality teams. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Token on March 29, 2021, 07:12:29 PM
So does being overrated against quality teams.
Overrated or not doesn’t matter in March. They had the opportunity to win at the free throw line where they were good all year and didn’t get the job done.  Being overrated or underrated doesn’t change free throws. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 01:18:01 AM
So which team gets to play Gonzaga, Houston the media darling or the poor hapless Baylor program that only had five scholarship players 2 years ago?

And I say Gonzaga only because if you look back at USC's regular schedule you will see that although they have impressive size they can't play transition basketball for long periods of time. Love to watch the bigs play but I don't think Gonzaga can be forced into a halfcourt game.

Michigan might be to Gonzaga what Arkansas was to Baylor.
No, I don't give UCLA much of a shot against Michigan but they are playing very well. 

I think the Big Ten plays the style of basketball I enjoy watching. Not discounting the talent of the PAC-12 but those games conflict with my internal clock.
It's worth it a time or two though to go to basketball church with Bill Walton if you haven't been paying attention.

Anyway...
Houston lacks the size of Baylor but I don't expect Baylor to shoot like the house is on fire two games in a row. The greatest matchup should be shutdown defender Jarreau v. Davion the facilitator.
Don't know which team wins the game but I think Jarreau wins that battle. He's suffocating.

Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: wesfau2 on March 30, 2021, 10:02:33 AM
So which team gets to play Gonzaga, Houston the media darling or the poor hapless Baylor program that only had five scholarship players 2 years ago?

And I say Gonzaga only because if you look back at USC's regular schedule you will see that although they have impressive size they can't play transition basketball for long periods of time. Love to watch the bigs play but I don't think Gonzaga can be forced into a halfcourt game.

Michigan might be to Gonzaga what Arkansas was to Baylor.
No, I don't give UCLA much of a shot against Michigan but they are playing very well.

I think the Big Ten plays the style of basketball I enjoy watching. Not discounting the talent of the PAC-12 but those games conflict with my internal clock.
It's worth it a time or two though to go to basketball church with Bill Walton if you haven't been paying attention.

Anyway...
Houston lacks the size of Baylor but I don't expect Baylor to shoot like the house is on fire two games in a row. The greatest matchup should be shutdown defender Jarreau v. Davion the facilitator.
Don't know which team wins the game but I think Jarreau wins that battle. He's suffocating.
The hour, the caffeine deficiency and...well...the "jmar factor" make this nearly incomprehensible.

But I like the final four teams for entertaining basketball.  And I *think* jmar is saying that Jarreau is a better defender than Mitchell.  I humbly disagree. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 11:00:29 AM
The hour, the caffeine deficiency and...well...the "jmar factor" make this nearly incomprehensible.

But I like the final four teams for entertaining basketball.  And I *think* jmar is saying that Jarreau is a better defender than Mitchell.  I humbly disagree.
Never said Jarreau was the better overall player but he will sacrifice his offensive production to wreak havoc on Baylor in order to keep his team in the game.
He's perfectly willing to collect trash points and rebounds to further contribute to the effort.

Damn the caffeine, full steam ahead!
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on March 30, 2021, 03:15:11 PM
Overrated or not doesn’t matter in March. They had the opportunity to win at the free throw line where they were good all year and didn’t get the job done.  Being overrated or underrated doesn’t change free throws.


def not trying to flame you here.....I just don't think Bama is or ever was a true 2 seed. The sec (I don't gaf what kenpom or any dumb pundit said pre tourney) was seriously down this year - esp at the top. There was no heavyweight..AT ALL. Bama and the Hogs filled that void left by Tenn, Aub and Kentucky not filling their traditional spots as the sec 1-3 from the last 4 years. It probably wasn't helped that UCLA and a few others were underrated at the other end of the spectrum. The pac 12 got serious disrespect entering the tourney. 

Regardless - its Zags and Baylors NC to lose really. There was never even a close 3rd team. Perhaps Michigan at this moment in time if there is a close 3rd. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 03:29:19 PM

def not trying to flame you here.....I just don't think Bama is or ever was a true 2 seed. The sec (I don't gaf what kenpom or any dumb pundit said pre tourney) was seriously down this year - esp at the top. There was no heavyweight..AT ALL. Bama and the Hogs filled that void left by Tenn, Aub and Kentucky not filling their traditional spots as the sec 1-3 from the last 4 years. It probably wasn't helped that UCLA and a few others were underrated at the other end of the spectrum. The pac 12 got serious disrespect entering the tourney.

Regardless - its Zags and Baylors NC to lose really. There was never even a close 3rd team. Perhaps Michigan at this moment in time if there is a close 3rd.
You know you're disrespecting me by not being critical of my archaic writing style brimming with stream of consciousness, run ons and broken sentences. I expect better.

But yeah I agree with you.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on March 30, 2021, 03:57:17 PM
You know you're disrespecting me by not being critical of my archaic writing style brimming with stream of consciousness, run ons and broken sentences. I expect better.

But yeah I agree with you.

if a run on sentence happens in the woods, did it turn purple before or after it became the wayward Lean of a true homophobic ankle breaker. Answer me that. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 30, 2021, 04:05:33 PM
if a run on sentence happens in the woods, did it turn purple before or after it became the wayward Lean of a true homophobic ankle breaker. Answer me that.
Well obviously, for every 12 pieces of pottery bowl toppings, a frail facsimile of the children will suffice.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 04:11:19 PM
Well obviously, for every 12 pieces of pottery bowl toppings, a frail facsimile of the children will suffice.
You stay out of this. Nobody asked you to chime in with your whimsical nonsensities.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 04:16:12 PM
if a run on sentence happens in the woods, did it turn purple before or after it became the wayward Lean of a true homophobic ankle breaker. Answer me that.
Define "Lean" and I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 30, 2021, 04:46:31 PM
Back to the Tourney Talk.  Out of who is left, I'd like to see the Zags finally get over the hump.  They've been so close so many times but always fall short. I keep hearing all the talking heads say they're the most talented team. That may be but I don't see them being physical enough to get by Baylor or Michigan, or even tonight's match up with USC.  

Anyone watch Houston last night?  I haven't seen much of them this year, but I know they have to be a better shooting club than that shit. What was definitely impressive though, was the offensive boards.  Good Lawdy, those guys get on the glass.  I think at one point they had 19 offensive rebounds.   
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Token on March 30, 2021, 04:56:42 PM

def not trying to flame you here.....I just don't think Bama is or ever was a true 2 seed. The sec (I don't gaf what kenpom or any dumb pundit said pre tourney) was seriously down this year - esp at the top. There was no heavyweight..AT ALL. Bama and the Hogs filled that void left by Tenn, Aub and Kentucky not filling their traditional spots as the sec 1-3 from the last 4 years. It probably wasn't helped that UCLA and a few others were underrated at the other end of the spectrum. The pac 12 got serious disrespect entering the tourney.

Regardless - its Zags and Baylors NC to lose really. There was never even a close 3rd team. Perhaps Michigan at this moment in time if there is a close 3rd.
I get what you are saying but it’s an entirely different argument.  Being a 2 seed, 11 seed or 16 seed didn’t get Bama beat in that game. The free throws did. 

I do believe this is going to the future of March madness for a while though. 1 and done recruits have decimated the traditional powerhouses. I think anyone past the top 2 or 3 teams are going to be very difficult to seed in the future. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 05:09:37 PM
Back to the Tourney Talk.  Out of who is left, I'd like to see the Zags finally get over the hump.  They've been so close so many times but always fall short. I keep hearing all the talking heads say they're the most talented team. That may be but I don't see them being physical enough to get by Baylor or Michigan, or even tonight's match up with USC. 

Anyone watch Houston last night?  I haven't seen much of them this year, but I know they have to be a better shooting club than that shit. What was definitely impressive though, was the offensive boards.  Good Lawdy, those guys get on the glass.  I think at one point they had 19 offensive rebounds. 
Houston can win this game against Baylor. In fact they might be the contrast in style that actually trips up Gonzaga. Don't think they have quite enough scoring punch but we shall see.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 05:11:20 PM
I get what you are saying but it’s an entirely different argument.  Being a 2 seed, 11 seed or 16 seed didn’t get Bama beat in that game. The free throws did.

I do believe this is going to the future of March madness for a while though. 1 and done recruits have decimated the traditional powerhouses. I think anyone past the top 2 or 3 teams are going to be very difficult to seed in the future.
Excellent point.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Token on March 30, 2021, 05:27:10 PM
Houston turned my losing my ass on slots into me having a damn good trip so I’m pulling for Houston the rest of the way. It’s the least I can do. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 30, 2021, 09:40:23 PM
I was wrong on the Zags.  I thought USC might knock em off.  Wrong.  19 point Gonzaga win.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 10:10:44 PM
I was wrong on the Zags.  I thought USC might knock em off.  Wrong.  19 point Gonzaga win.
They just do what they do and play with an air of confidence. 
Doesn't appear anybody can make them sweat a close one.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 30, 2021, 10:26:30 PM
Don't know if Michigan covers but it's been a while since I picked a team that didn't start out down ten or twelve just after tipoff.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 30, 2021, 11:20:00 PM
Don't know if Michigan covers but it's been a while since I picked a team that didn't start out down ten or twelve just after tipoff.
UCLA/Michigan has been horrible so far. Maybe they pick it up in the second half.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: The Six on March 31, 2021, 07:58:36 AM
Gonzaga is running through teams like lean through Lil Nas X's bladder as his performs a donkey show on Sesame Street. It's a slaughter out there; hide your kids, hide your wife.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 31, 2021, 08:41:54 AM
Gonzaga is running through teams like lean through Lil Nas X's bladder as his performs a donkey show on Sesame Street. It's a slaughter out there; hide your kids, hide your wife.
They make their opponents look like they are in tryouts for the JV squad. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 31, 2021, 08:54:34 AM
UCLA/Michigan has been horrible so far. Maybe they pick it up in the second half.
Worst game of the tourney to watch. 13 minutes in and only one foul called. Was sort of a walk-thru with a basketball theme.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2021, 09:42:27 AM
Michigan decided to play hold my beer with Bama......49 points????  0 for 9 to finish the game? No scoring for like half an hour??? Talk about blowing it. And still had a bajillion chances to win it at the end. 

Just furthers my theory that its been the Zags, then Baylor......then everyone else about 10 steps down below. There were two TRUE #1 seeds and everyone else was a crap shoot from the start. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 31, 2021, 12:09:34 PM
Like just about everybody else, when this thing got cranked up, I thought this was going to be the craziest tourney evah.  Who is Abilene Christian?  How far can Oral Roberts go?  Damn, I had Illinois in the Final 4. Everyone's bracket is kerput.

In the end, it's played out about the same as every tournament before it.  We have two #1's, a #2 seed and one Cinderella in UCLA.  There are always huge upsets by relative unknowns and deep runs by teams you'd never expect. Who saw Loyola of Chicago wheeling that old hag into the Final 4? 

Think about how many brackets Auburn obliterated two years ago.  Kansas, North Carolina and Kentucky were all good teams and I'm sure a yuuuuge percentage of people had one or more of them in their Final 4.      
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2021, 01:12:13 PM
Like just about everybody else, when this thing got cranked up, I thought this was going to be the craziest tourney evah.  Who is Abilene Christian?  How far can Oral Roberts go?  Damn, I had Illinois in the Final 4. Everyone's bracket is kerput.

In the end, it's played out about the same as every tournament before it.  We have two #1's, a #2 seed and one Cinderella in UCLA.  There are always huge upsets by relative unknowns and deep runs by teams you'd never expect. Who saw Loyola of Chicago wheeling that old hag into the Final 4?

Think about how many brackets Auburn obliterated two years ago.  Kansas, North Carolina and Kentucky were all good teams and I'm sure a yuuuuge percentage of people had one or more of them in their Final 4.     

UCLA's run will now come to an end. Cronin is a good coach but the Zags are another level. I liked him better when he was a front man anyway. I usually favor "Take it on the Run" as a great poolside tune but lately "Roll with the Changes" has been moving up my personal list. 

Houston has a better chance against Baylor the UCLA does against the Zags. 

Now, that I've said that - were gonna see a Baylor UCLA final - Karma gods do your thing. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 31, 2021, 02:25:51 PM
UCLA's run will now come to an end. Cronin is a good coach but the Zags are another level. I liked him better when he was a front man anyway. I usually favor "Take it on the Run" as a great poolside tune but lately "Roll with the Changes" has been moving up my personal list.

Houston has a better chance against Baylor the UCLA does against the Zags.

Now, that I've said that - were gonna see a Baylor UCLA final - Karma gods do your thing.
I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend that you like to take it on the tongue.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: The Six on March 31, 2021, 02:37:01 PM
I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend that you like to take it on the tongue.
What man doesn't ride with the Speedwagon?
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 31, 2021, 03:12:24 PM
What man doesn't ride with the Speedwagon?
Gary Richrath?
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 31, 2021, 03:16:39 PM
What man doesn't ride with the Speedwagon?
Every red-blooded American knows when you're under the gun you better take it on the run.
It's animal attraction 101.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on March 31, 2021, 03:23:42 PM
Gary Richrath?
Must be a communist.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on April 01, 2021, 09:59:27 AM
04/02(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)249Arizona
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  +13½ -106 
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  O 128 -115 
  O 57 -115  U 57 -115
8:30 PM250Connecticut
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  -13½ -124 
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  U 128 -115 
  O 71 -115  U 71 -115
04/02(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)251Stanford
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  -6 -115 
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  O 133½ -115 
  O 70 -115  U 70 -115
5:00 PM252South Carolina
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  +6 -115 
(https://ebet2.com/Images/blank.png)  U 133½ -115 
  O 64 -115  U 64 -115



Know it's almost blasphemous, but the matchup and spreads for the women's championship is eerily similar to that of the men's.

Too much time on my hands?
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on April 01, 2021, 12:39:34 PM
What man doesn't ride with the Speedwagon?
Relax Danielle. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on April 05, 2021, 11:43:03 AM
I got the women"s finals and the championship correct. Never been able to pick winners with women but every nut finds a hog at least once in a lifetime.

The men were a different story.
I made a couple of plays at equal units in early rounds and was doing just fine with Oregon State smothering Loyola and then mostly went losers from there.

I haven't played the Zags at all.

There was UCLA beating Michigan (wrong) followed by Baylor's drubbing of Houston. (wrong again)

So the Bruins catch a ship as stowaways, make the cut and then decide to show everybody they belonged in what was the best game of the entire tournament.

If Baylor can avoid scoring droughts their defense is strong enough to make this one close.
They have an the advantage of schooling on the UCLA game but the two teams are built differently and I don't have a clue on this one.






Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: The Six on April 05, 2021, 12:01:20 PM
Honestly, I hope the lights in the gym fail and they declare no one the winner. Cannot stand either team in this final. Will not watch.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: CCTAU on April 05, 2021, 03:22:51 PM
Hey. Didn't I win this last year also?
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on April 05, 2021, 03:38:24 PM
Hey. Didn't I win this last year also?
I don't recall the results of last season but you should have the receipt from your prior winnings.

The check is in the mail, originating in Manilla, same as last year. Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 05, 2021, 04:04:44 PM
Hey. Didn't I win this last year also?
Did you have the Chinese National team in the championship?
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on April 05, 2021, 04:17:53 PM
Did you have the Chinese National team in the championship?
We like CCTAU play ball. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: CCTAU on April 05, 2021, 05:22:45 PM
Did you have the Chinese National team in the championship?
OK. So maybe the year before.
If they played last season, I would have one that one also.

Bow to me you lesser choosers!
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 05, 2021, 06:29:16 PM
Where’s my bottle of Crown?
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on April 05, 2021, 09:19:15 PM
Alright I just went with Baylor +4-.
Defense, size and depth.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: chityeah on April 05, 2021, 10:08:21 PM
Alright I just went with Baylor +4-.
Defense, size and depth.
https://youtu.be/9Nc6JK1ONHY
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 06, 2021, 10:52:43 AM
Wow, what a mismatch that was.  There wasn't one phase of the game that Baylor didn't dominate.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 06, 2021, 11:49:17 AM
Just like I predicted...nobody came close to Gonzaga Baylor in this tourney.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 06, 2021, 12:31:49 PM
Just like I predicted...nobody came close to Gonzaga Baylor in this tourney.
I believe that had these two teams met earlier in the year, as they were supposed to, we may have thought differently about the Zags.  I'm not saying it would be identical to what happened last night, but I think Gonzaga would have been exposed.  Baylor is just plain quicker, more physical and a better shooting team.  
When Kispert is on, he's probably the best pure shooter on the floor. But Da' Bears never let anybody get in rhythm.
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: jmar on April 06, 2021, 01:26:10 PM
I believe that had these two teams met earlier in the year, as they were supposed to, we may have thought differently about the Zags.  I'm not saying it would be identical to what happened last night, but I think Gonzaga would have been exposed.  Baylor is just plain quicker, more physical and a better shooting team. 
When Kispert is on, he's probably the best pure shooter on the floor. But Da' Bears never let anybody get in rhythm.
The regular season record would indicate as much but there is plenty of evidence to show that  even Baylor could be just a little better than their opponent.
This UCLA team might have given Baylor fits had they not started out on fire hitting threes.
That said...where was UCLA all season? They were just good enough to make the cut, better than ordinary but certainly not a contender for the final four.

Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on April 06, 2021, 03:59:23 PM
Wow, what a mismatch that was.  There wasn't one phase of the game that Baylor didn't dominate.

Turnovers, missed shots.....they didn't win those. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: GH2001 on April 06, 2021, 04:01:36 PM
The regular season record would indicate as much but there is plenty of evidence to show that  even Baylor could be just a little better than their opponent.
This UCLA team might have given Baylor fits had they not started out on fire hitting threes.
That said...where was UCLA all season? They were just good enough to make the cut, better than ordinary but certainly not a contender for the final four.

honestly....the zags looked good on paper. They had a great record. They looked the part....But they don't play in a P5 conference. The week in week out quality teams takes it toll just like in the foosballz. Baylor was absolutely battle tested and sharpened. The zags got battle tested 48 hours before the NC Game. 
Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: CCTAU on April 07, 2021, 10:09:28 PM
Wait. Who picked Baylor? Who won the X tourney...again?

Title: Re: Tourney Talk
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 08, 2021, 09:20:43 AM
Wait. Who picked Baylor? Who won the X tourney...again?
New phone, who dis?