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Title: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 12:18:28 PM
It's that time of year when players are making their decisions on whether to declare for the Show or return for their final year of college foosballz. And in recent years, it's become far more common place for players that are either seniors or declaring early, to basically develop a slight injury, a tweak of the hammy if you will, that will cause limited or a complete lack of participation in a meaningless Bowl game.  Others will just flat out declare they're done and will not play in the Bowl game.  I get it and have no problem with it.  Don't risk your future on the Poulan Weedeater Kool Ade Amazon Dot Kum Bowl.  But, that's a debate for another time.

Who from our beloved Tiggers do you see declaring for the NFL draft?  Any seniors that have legit shots at playing on Sundays who might sit the Peach out?  My thoughts:

Holland and C. Davis:  They gone!

Carry On:  50/50  Not risking a 4th straight year of injuries may be the deciding factor.

Have no clue if Stidham would risk it. I am teh suxxors at predicting success at the next level, but my arm chair Mel Kiper analysis says nowhere near ready.  Hold the ball in the NFL and you'll last 2 series.

Thoughts?   
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
Oh....just realized the focus of my man-crush, Ryan Davis, is a Junior.  He's only about 175 pounds.  Does he come out?  Lord, if you let Ryan stay, I promise to stop cheating on my wife with black guys.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: dallaswareagle on December 08, 2017, 12:25:19 PM
It's that time of year when players are making their decisions on whether to declare for the Show or return for their final year of college foosballz. And in recent years, it's become far more common place for players that are either seniors or declaring early, to basically develop a slight injury, a tweak of the hammy if you will, that will cause limited or a complete lack of participation in a meaningless Bowl game.  Others will just flat out declare they're done and will not play in the Bowl game.  I get it and have no problem with it.  Don't risk your future on the Poulan Weedeater Kool Ade Amazon Dot Kum Bowl.  But, that's a debate for another time.

Who from our beloved Tiggers do you see declaring for the NFL draft?  Any seniors that have legit shots at playing on Sundays who might sit the Peach out?  My thoughts:

Holland and C. Davis:  They gone!

Carry On:  50/50  Not risking a 4th straight year of injuries may be the deciding factor.

Have no clue if Stidham would risk it. I am teh suxxors at predicting success at the next level, but my arm chair Mel Kiper analysis says nowhere near ready.  Hold the ball in the NFL and you'll last 2 series.

Thoughts?

Maybe showing he can go a year without injuries may help his draft status the next year or could blow him up. Right now I guess him as 3rd or 4th round.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Godfather on December 08, 2017, 01:40:27 PM
I did a whole breakdown of this to my text group friends.

Oh wait you aren't in that one...hold on
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: djsimp on December 08, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
I did a whole breakdown of this to my text group friends.

Oh wait you aren't in that one...hold on

I thought you didn't know how to respond to text?

 :poke:
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 08, 2017, 02:04:48 PM
Agree Snags.
Holland gone. It's expected.
Kerryon has nothing more to prove. He can still walk and should leave asap. Dallas likely right, 3rd or 4th.

Stidham will hang with us one more season.
R. Davis can catch 60+ at Auburn and establish more name recognition as opposed to sitting. IDK...my guess he stays. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: CCTAU on December 08, 2017, 02:07:56 PM
Are we all assuming Pettway is done?


I would love to see a Carnell/Ronnie type senior year from Pettway and KJ.


But that is just a dream.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Godfather on December 08, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
Offense:

Senior Starters
LT- Austin Golson
C- Casey Dunn
RG- Braden Smith ( :( )
RT- Darius James

We are basically losing our entire OLine (which is my biggest worry for next year)

Juinor Starters
QB - Stidham - 98% Stays (He knows he isn't NFL ready)
RB - Kerryon - 70% Leaves (I could see him staying too. I think it depends on the bowl game.  If he has a huge bowl game I think he is gone.  If he is still hurt I think he might stick around)
RB - Pettway - 85% Stays (He needs to stay, but I could see him say fuck it I wants to smoke my weed and go to the NFL)
TE - Jalen Harris - 98% Stays (We have a TE?)
WR - Davis & Hastings - 98% Stay (I think they both stay)

Defense

Senior Starters
LB- Tre Williams
FS - Tray Matthews
SS - Stephen Roberts

Those three are some big-time names and big leaders of our team.  The defense has some depth behind it but losing those guys as leaders hurt.

Junior Starters
DE - Holland - 95% Leaves (I think he would be stupid not to, kid is a force.  I hate to lose him hope he stays but don't blame him)
DT - DT Russell - 70% Leaves (I think if Holland goes we lose Russell too)
LB - D. Williams - 50% Stays (Solid LB but I think he needs one more year, I think he sticks around)
CB - C. Davis - 95% Leaves (Again anything left to prove? Hate to lose him)

Losing the Juniors above with the Seniors would put a hurt on our defense, still, OLine worries me more for next year.  I think the defense has recruited lights out and while losing those guys will hurt, defense will be solid again next year, especially with Kevin Steele back.

I would expect Gus to go to JUCO to shore up some of these areas especially on the OLine. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 02:23:29 PM
I did a whole breakdown of this to my text group friends.

Oh wait you aren't in that one...hold on

I've PM'd you my number at least 5 times.  Why am I not getting these group texts?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 02:25:19 PM
Offense:

Senior Starters
LT- Austin Golson
C- Casey Dunn
RG- Braden Smith ( :( )
RT- Darius James

We are basically losing our entire OLine (which is my biggest worry for next year)

Juinor Starters
QB - Stidham - 98% Stays (He knows he isn't NFL ready)
RB - Kerryon - 70% Leaves (I could see him staying too. I think it depends on the bowl game.  If he has a huge bowl game I think he is gone.  If he is still hurt I think he might stick around)
RB - Pettway - 85% Stays (He needs to stay, but I could see him say fuck it I wants to smoke my weed and go to the NFL)
TE - Jalen Harris - 98% Stays (We have a TE?)
WR - Davis & Hastings - 98% Stay (I think they both stay)

Defense

Senior Starters
LB- Tre Williams
FS - Tray Matthews
SS - Stephen Roberts

Those three are some big-time names and big leaders of our team.  The defense has some depth behind it but losing those guys as leaders hurt.

Junior Starters
DE - Holland - 95% Leaves (I think he would be stupid not to, kid is a force.  I hate to lose him hope he stays but don't blame him)
DT - DT Russell - 70% Leaves (I think if Holland goes we lose Russell too)
LB - D. Williams - 50% Stays (Solid LB but I think he needs one more year, I think he sticks around)
CB - C. Davis - 95% Leaves (Again anything left to prove? Hate to lose him)

Losing the Juniors above with the Seniors would put a hurt on our defense, still, OLine worries me more for next year.  I think the defense has recruited lights out and while losing those guys will hurt, defense will be solid again next year, especially with Kevin Steele back.

I would expect Gus to go to JUCO to shore up some of these areas especially on the OLine.

Agree with all of the above.  However, I see a skrong possibility of losing the best LB we have, Deshaun Davis.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 08, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
Offense:
So Starters that are Seniors:

We are basically losing our entire OLine (which is my biggest worry for next year)
LT- Austin Golson
C- Casey Dunn
RG- Braden Smith ( :( )
RT- Darius James

Juinor Starters
QB - Stidham - 98% Stays (He knows he isn't NFL ready)
RB - Kerryon - 70% Leaves (I could see him staying too. I think it depends on the bowl game.  If he has a huge bowl game I think he is gone.  If he is still hurt I think he might stick around)
RB - Pettway - 85% Stays (He needs to stay, but I could see him say fuck it I wants to smoke my weed and go to the NFL)
TE - Jalen Harris - 98% Stays (We have a TE?)
WR - Davis & Hastings - 98% Stay (I think they both stay)

Defense

Senior Starters
LB- Tre Williams
FS - Tray Matthews
SS - Stephen Roberts

Those three are some big-time names and big leaders of our team.  The defense has some depth behind it but losing those guys as leaders hurt.

Junior Starters
DE - Holland - 95% Leaves (I think he would be stupid not to, kid is a force.  I hate to lose him hope he stays but don't blame him)
DT - DT Russell - 70% Leaves (I think if Holland goes we lose Russell too)
LB - D. Williams - 50% Stays (Solid LB but I think he needs one more year, I think he sticks around)
CB - C. Davis - 95% Leaves (Again anything left to prove? Hate to lose him)

Losing the Juniors above with the Seniors would put a hurt on our defense, still, OLine worries me more for next year.  I think the defense has recruited lights out and while losing those guys will hurt, defense will be solid again next year, especially with Kevin Steele back.

I would expect Gus to go to JUCO to shore up some of these areas especially on the OLine.
Well done.
Offensive line has the cyclical appearance of 2011 post Cam.
We are well stocked with a number of enormous tackles.
Only read of one JUCO lineman on the board so far. 

Decimated at safety. Down three? Ruffin contributed greatly as a backup. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: AUJarhead on December 08, 2017, 02:48:53 PM
As long as Buzz becomes AD, I'm ok with whoever stays or goes.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 08, 2017, 02:52:39 PM
I've PM'd you my number at least 5 times.  Why am I not getting these group texts?
I got a text from him but it was just a pic. And of his penis.

I don’t find it funny.

But I guess he could be wanting sex.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 03:01:27 PM
We do have 2 O-linemen returning who both started about half the season in Marquel Harrell and Prince Tega Winnebago.  Mike Horton got a lot of snaps as did Brodarious Hamm in mop up.  Don't forget 5* Calvin Ashley, who might have been in the rotation had he not been injured in Fall camp and was redshirted. 

The thing that is almost disturbing to me is no mention of the loss of Long Snapper, Ike Powell, to graduation. Yeah, sure we have super-stud, Bill Taylor, coming in with his pinpoint, laser-like snapping.  But, the consistency of IP just can't automatically be replaced by someone who has never been in the trenches.  Someone who has never had the weight of the world on his broad shoulders and Popeye-esque forearms.  I have all the faith in the world in Bill Taylor.  My God, that name alone gives you chills, doesn't it?  But, until we see him whipping a quick, tight spiral back there to the waiting holder, there will always be that hint of trepidation.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: AUJarhead on December 08, 2017, 03:06:52 PM
We do have 2 O-linemen returning who both started about half the season in Marquel Harrell and Prince Tega Winnebago.  Mike Horton got a lot of snaps as did Brodarious Hamm in mop up.  Don't forget 5* Calvin Ashley, who might have been in the rotation had he not been injured in Fall camp and was redshirted. 

The thing that is almost disturbing to me is no mention of the loss of Long Snapper, Ike Powell, to graduation. Yeah, sure we have super-stud, Bill Taylor, coming in with his pinpoint, laser-like snapping.  But, the consistency of IP just can't automatically be replaced by someone who has never been in the trenches.  Someone who has never had the weight of the world on his broad shoulders and Popeye-esque forearms.  I have all the faith in the world in Bill Taylor.  My God, that name alone gives you chills, doesn't it?  But, until we see him whipping a quick, tight spiral back there to the waiting holder, there will always be that hint of trepidation.

You bill by the word, don't you?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 03:12:42 PM
You bill by the word, don't you?

Actually, I had been looking for the opportunity to work "Trepidation" into a sentence.  It never felt quite right until the very end.  Then....I dropped that shit in there like busting a fat payload of jizz on some coke whure's face.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 08, 2017, 03:15:52 PM
We do have 2 O-linemen returning who both started about half the season in Marquel Harrell and Prince Tega Winnebago.  Mike Horton got a lot of snaps as did Brodarious Hamm in mop up.  Don't forget 5* Calvin Ashley, who might have been in the rotation had he not been injured in Fall camp and was redshirted. 

The thing that is almost disturbing to me is no mention of the loss of Long Snapper, Ike Powell, to graduation. Yeah, sure we have super-stud, Bill Taylor, coming in with his pinpoint, laser-like snapping.  But, the consistency of IP just can't automatically be replaced by someone who has never been in the trenches.  Someone who has never had the weight of the world on his broad shoulders and Popeye-esque forearms.  I have all the faith in the world in Bill Taylor.  My God, that name alone gives you chills, doesn't it?  But, until we see him whipping a quick, tight spiral back there to the waiting holder, there will always be that hint of trepidation.
Didn't we lose our snapperholder too?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
Didn't we lose our snapperholder too?

Snapperholding is so easy, even a Cave Man could do it.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Prowler on December 08, 2017, 03:23:20 PM
I have a feeling that Kerryon is gone. Stidham will test the waters, if given a good report, he might be gone too.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Godfather on December 08, 2017, 03:32:55 PM
Agree with all of the above.  However, I see a skrong possibility of losing the best LB we have, Deshaun Davis.
Forgot Deshaun... I'd give him an 60% he leaves
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 03:42:55 PM
Safety, Derwin James, of FSU declared earlier this week and went ahead and said he's not playing in their Bowl game.  Understandable.  Dude is a stud and has already lost one season to injury.  Stay healthy and get paid.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 08, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
I have a feeling that Kerryon is gone. Stidham will test the waters, if given a good report, he might be gone too.
Stidham definitely benefits from another season and we are sunk without him, especially with our injury prone abused backs. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: dallaswareagle on December 08, 2017, 04:04:28 PM
Stidham definitely benefits from another season and we are sunk without him, especially with our injury prone abused backs.   Inability to develop non-juco QB's.

 :haha:
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 04:24:10 PM
I understand there is about a Grand Canyon's difference between most college QB's and a top tier NFL signal caller.  But watching the SECCG, there were several times Stidham either got sacked or he threw the ball away.  They'd show the replay and while it looked like all our guys were covered, I couldn't help thinking that in the NFL, just about all of those WR's would be "wide open".  Next time you can stomach an NFL game (I admit, I've semi gone back to watching a little of it) notice how over half the completed passes are caught with about a 6 inch margin for error. Those guys have such timing and can deliver it with such accuracy, that all the receiver has to do is have that one-half step on the guy, that inside position or make the break to the outside at exactly the right time.

It's not that I care about New England or the Packers or Steelers.  But damn, it's hard not to appreciate the timing and accuracy of Brady, Rodgers and Rapelissburger.  I certainly don't expect Stidham to be anywhere in that same universe, but there are plenty of times I'm thinking if he would just pull the trigger and trust his receiver to do his job.  Don't wait until there's 5 yards of separation.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: dallaswareagle on December 08, 2017, 04:45:15 PM
I understand there is about a Grand Canyon's difference between most college QB's and a top tier NFL signal caller.  But watching the SECCG, there were several times Stidham either got sacked or he threw the ball away.  They'd show the replay and while it looked like all our guys were covered, I couldn't help thinking that in the NFL, just about all of those WR's would be "wide open".  Next time you can stomach an NFL game (I admit, I've semi gone back to watching a little of it) notice how over half the completed passes are caught with about a 6 inch margin for error. Those guys have such timing and can deliver it with such accuracy, that all the receiver has to do is have that one-half step on the guy, that inside position or make the break to the outside at exactly the right time.



It's not that I care about New England or the Packers or Steelers.  But damn, it's hard not to appreciate the timing and accuracy of Brady, Rodgers and Rapelissburger.  I certainly don't expect Stidham to be anywhere in that same universe, but there are plenty of times I'm thinking if he would just pull the trigger and trust his receiver to do his job.  Don't wait until there's 5 yards of separation.

Hating merica is no way to go through life son.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2017, 05:18:19 PM
Hating merica is no way to go through life son.

Death to the infidel Americans. Long live NFL. 

I said earlier that I knew I'd come back at some point.  The anthem protests genuinely pissed me off.  I hated those mofo's for doing it and I refused to watch even 5 seconds of a game if I was flipping channels and came across one.  But in recent weeks, I've found myself checking out a little bit of a game here and there. Either Sunday or Monday, I just flat out watched the Steelers and Bengals.  Enjoyed it too.

I think it's more a matter of all the media attention over the protests has pretty much died out and I don't even know if anyone is still doing it.  I just want my football.  I want my entertainment.  Please leave all the politics and other shit out of it.  That being said.....

The Dirty Birds beat those Cheatin' Ass Saints last night.   
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 08, 2017, 05:20:48 PM
I understand there is about a Grand Canyon's difference between most college QB's and a top tier NFL signal caller.  But watching the SECCG, there were several times Stidham either got sacked or he threw the ball away.  They'd show the replay and while it looked like all our guys were covered, I couldn't help thinking that in the NFL, just about all of those WR's would be "wide open".  Next time you can stomach an NFL game (I admit, I've semi gone back to watching a little of it) notice how over half the completed passes are caught with about a 6 inch margin for error. Those guys have such timing and can deliver it with such accuracy, that all the receiver has to do is have that one-half step on the guy, that inside position or make the break to the outside at exactly the right time.

It's not that I care about New England or the Packers or Steelers.  But damn, it's hard not to appreciate the timing and accuracy of Brady, Rodgers and Rapelissburger.  I certainly don't expect Stidham to be anywhere in that same universe, but there are plenty of times I'm thinking if he would just pull the trigger and trust his receiver to do his job.  Don't wait until there's 5 yards of separation.
Sunk without him. Not asked to make the more difficult throws.
Lack of separation or hesitation on Stidham's part...we will likely never know.
But for our fancy high school needs he is very accurate. Maybe not top five NFL prospect but good enough. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 08, 2017, 05:23:04 PM
Hating merica is no way to go through life son.
Treasonous!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: CCTAU on December 08, 2017, 07:54:13 PM
Death to the infidel Americans. Long live NFL. 

I said earlier that I knew I'd come back at some point.  The anthem protests genuinely pissed me off.  I hated those mofo's for doing it and I refused to watch even 5 seconds of a game if I was flipping channels and came across one.  But in recent weeks, I've found myself checking out a little bit of a game here and there. Either Sunday or Monday, I just flat out watched the Steelers and Bengals.  Enjoyed it too.

I think it's more a matter of all the media attention over the protests has pretty much died out and I don't even know if anyone is still doing it.  I just want my football.  I want my entertainment.  Please leave all the politics and other shit out of it.  That being said.....

The Dirty Birds beat those Cheatin' Ass Saints last night.


It’s not hard to be strong when you have conviction!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Kaos on December 08, 2017, 10:47:45 PM

It’s not hard to be strong when you have conviction!

I’ve been charged. But no convictions.   

Witnesses have a way of disappearing
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: CCTAU on December 08, 2017, 10:58:43 PM
I’ve been charged. But no convictions.   

Witnesses have a way of disappearing


No “S”!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 09, 2017, 08:05:43 AM

No “S”!
Diappearing?

That’s stupid. Idiot.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 09, 2017, 11:06:05 PM
I did a whole breakdown of this to my text group friends.

Oh wait you aren't in that one...hold on
The new friends?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: wesfau2 on December 26, 2017, 08:54:40 AM
Mentioned in another thread, but topical for this one:

D. Russell is staying for his senior season.  That's huge.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: djsimp on December 26, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Mentioned in another thread, but topical for this one:

D. Russell is staying for his senior season.  That's huge.

Hoping this becomes a trend for the rest of the ones discussed.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: GH2001 on December 26, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Hoping this becomes a trend for the rest of the ones discussed.

I think it's all about the draft grades. KJ and Carlton have much higher ceilings to the experts than DR. But I hope you're right.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Prowler on December 27, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
Kamryn Pettway didn't travel with the team. Imo, he's Audi 5000.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: chinook on December 27, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Kamryn Pettway didn't travel with the team. Imo, he's Audi 5000.

pffft.  old news.  my info gets around quicker on my new skreets. 

we roll 1 deep anyway. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: djsimp on December 27, 2017, 06:30:39 PM
pffft.  old news.  my info gets around quicker on my new skreets. 

we roll 1 deep anyway.

What, Coach Gus' Peach Bowl conference. Ya, Pettway is at home with his family.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: chinook on December 27, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
What, Coach Gus' Peach Bowl conference. Ya, Pettway is at home with his family.

i have friends with deep pockets and deep ties.  small penises though.  they give me text alerts all the time.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2017, 09:31:59 PM
i have friends with deep pockets and deep ties.  small penises though.  they give me text alerts all the time.

WT doesn't have deep pockets.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: CCTAU on December 27, 2017, 10:54:17 PM
I’m staying!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 28, 2017, 07:30:04 AM
Depends on what’s out there for me.

I honestly have nothing against the x at all. It has been a good place for me.

It is the posters that I despise.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 28, 2017, 07:59:21 AM
Depends on what’s out there for me.

I honestly have nothing against the x at all. It has been a good place for me.

It is the posters that I despise.
Somebody done somebody wrong.  :muttley:
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 28, 2017, 08:01:50 AM
Depends on what’s out there for me.

I honestly have nothing against the x at all. It has been a good place for me.

It is the posters that I despise.
I really think it's time for you to take your talents to the hushpuppy dinner level.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: djsimp on December 28, 2017, 10:29:57 AM
i have friends with deep pockets and deep ties.  small penises though.  they give me text alerts all the time.

Agreed the new and approved skreets are mo betta.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 28, 2017, 10:41:15 AM
i have friends with deep pockets and deep ties.  small penises though.  they give me text alerts all the time.
The deep ties help to cover up the appearance of the small penises
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: wesfau2 on December 28, 2017, 12:57:30 PM
I really think it's time for you to take your talents to the hushpuppy dinner level.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 28, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
Seconded.
Thanks Guys. I rea....wait a minute.

You know what bitch. You aren’t nearly as funny as you think.

You just shut up.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 28, 2017, 02:40:11 PM
The deep ties help to cover up the appearance of the small penises
When did you all of the sudden stop liking small penises? What is even the plural form of penis?

I don’t know. But I am 100% confident Wes will know.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Prowler on December 31, 2017, 03:13:00 PM
Carlton Davis isn't playing in the bowl game. He's likely gonzo.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 31, 2017, 03:51:58 PM
Carlton Davis isn't playing in the bowl game. He's likely gonzo.
Davis was a better cover man as a freshman than Neiko Thorpe at any stage of his Auburn career.
Wish him nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Six on December 31, 2017, 06:44:24 PM
Davis was a better cover man as a freshman than Neiko Thorpe at any stage of his Auburn career.
Wish him nothing but the best.

Yet Thorpe is still playing professionally.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on December 31, 2017, 10:24:43 PM
Yet Thorpe is still playing professionally.
Shockingly!
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Post by: bottomfeeder on January 01, 2018, 01:38:44 PM
Who cares? The performance in this bowl game is pitiful at best.
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Post by: jmar on January 01, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
Who cares? The performance in this bowl game is pitiful at best.
If we score 41 more points UCF will have given up their average.
They only have a running QB and apparently he's unstoppable.  :facepalm:
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Post by: jmar on January 01, 2018, 02:22:49 PM
We have a serious problem because UCF is obviously better than Mercer.



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Post by: bottomfeeder on January 01, 2018, 08:03:21 PM
$49 million later, we are no better off than a Barfield team.
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Post by: CCTAU on January 01, 2018, 10:39:59 PM
Every underclassman that played in that shitfeat today should come back next year.
I’m not sure any pro team wants what they saw today!
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Post by: Buzz Killington on January 02, 2018, 08:36:53 AM
I hope Stidham decides to stay
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Post by: RWS on January 02, 2018, 10:10:55 AM
I hope Stidham decides to stay
An Auburn friend of mine and I were talking about this at work Sunday when we were discussing bowl games on NYD.  Every year you see kids that have no business coming out early doing so.  It's easy for us to say it's a bad decision, but I think they are steered by money, family, and just flat out naivety.  I suppose some kids on the lower end of the skill spectrum see it as even if they get picked up as undrafted, they're still getting a check.  With that said, in a sense, I think that it would be a mistake for Stidham to declare this year.  I think that he has talent, but needs more polish.  He needs to show that he can handle pressure better.  Also, this year's QB class has been hyped beyond belief.  Next year would be a much better scenario for him.

The problem with all of that is that Auburn loses most of the OL and some key pieces on defense next season.  And then he has to overcome Malzahn's fuckery.  He's taking a gamble that Malzahn can put together a cohesive team and give him an environment conducive to his development.  This may be as high as his draft stock gets.  It's a tough spot for him either way. 
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Post by: Buzz Killington on January 02, 2018, 10:25:46 AM
An Auburn friend of mine and I were talking about this at work Sunday when we were discussing bowl games on NYD.  Every year you see kids that have no business coming out early doing so.  It's easy for us to say it's a bad decision, but I think they are steered by money, family, and just flat out naivety.  I suppose some kids on the lower end of the skill spectrum see it as even if they get picked up as undrafted, they're still getting a check.  With that said, in a sense, I think that it would be a mistake for Stidham to declare this year.  I think that he has talent, but needs more polish.  He needs to show that he can handle pressure better.  Also, this year's QB class has been hyped beyond belief.  Next year would be a much better scenario for him.

The problem with all of that is that Auburn loses most of the OL and some key pieces on defense next season.  And then he has to overcome Malzahn's fudgeery.  He's taking a gamble that Malzahn can put together a cohesive team and give him an environment conducive to his development. This may be as high as his draft stock gets.  It's a tough spot for him either way.
That's a rather large gamble based on his track record.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 02, 2018, 10:42:27 AM
An Auburn friend of mine and I were talking about this at work Sunday when we were discussing bowl games on NYD.  Every year you see kids that have no business coming out early doing so.  It's easy for us to say it's a bad decision, but I think they are steered by money, family, and just flat out naivety.  I suppose some kids on the lower end of the skill spectrum see it as even if they get picked up as undrafted, they're still getting a check.  With that said, in a sense, I think that it would be a mistake for Stidham to declare this year.  I think that he has talent, but needs more polish.  He needs to show that he can handle pressure better.  Also, this year's QB class has been hyped beyond belief.  Next year would be a much better scenario for him.

The problem with all of that is that Auburn loses most of the OL and some key pieces on defense next season.  And then he has to overcome Malzahn's fuckery.  He's taking a gamble that Malzahn can put together a cohesive team and give him an environment conducive to his development.  This may be as high as his draft stock gets.  It's a tough spot for him either way.

I'm no Mel Kiper, but I don't see Stidham as anywhere near NFL ready.  Not even close.  He's got a great arm.  As they say, "He spins it well".  But yesterday was a prime example of why he's not ready.  He flat out holds the ball too long.  He had a big problem with it early in the season and yesterday, he reverted back to it and it really cost us.

You can say our receivers aren't getting open or our passing schemes aren't the greatest in the world.  Maybe some of that is true.  But it's almost like if the WR doesn't get 10 feet of separation, Stidham is not going to let it go.  I heard some talk this morning on Golic & Wingo about whether Baker Mayfield would be a good NFL QB.  Louis Riddick was saying the last TD pass he threw last night rolling to his left and squaring up his shoulders to fire off a pinpoint pass into a tight window was exhibit 1 as to why he has what it takes.

That's what you see in the NFL.  Most passes are completed with a DB right there or draped all over the receiver.  The next pass I throw in college or the NFL will be my first.  But my armchair analysis sees JS as scared to trust the receiver or his own ability to put the ball where it needs to be when the WR has only a step on the defender.  Instead, he holds it and waits. 

Would love to hear WE!!!'s thoughts on it.   
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Post by: Buzz Killington on January 02, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
I am going to preface my next statement with this...I love Kodi Burns for his love of Auburn.  However, having a guy that spent 11 games at WR as your WR coarch just doesn't seem very smart to me.  It could be that Stidham holds onto the ball too long because there is noone out there that can get any kind of separation other than Will fucking Hastings, and that's only because he's elfin and can run a 3.9 second 40.
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Post by: chinook on January 02, 2018, 11:15:03 AM


Would love to hear WE!!!'s thoughts on it.   

He's no Mel Kiper. 
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Post by: Godfather on January 02, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
He's no Mel Kiper.

But he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Post by: chinook on January 02, 2018, 11:55:08 AM
But he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

damn.  Kim got him on a budget?
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 02, 2018, 11:58:40 AM
 :WE!!:
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Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 02, 2018, 01:11:26 PM
I think Baker can make some good throws. The throw rolling to his left and hitting the guy in the back of the endzone was a thing of beauty. I thought he played brilliantly in the first half and dropped a couple of dimes to some covered up receivers. In the second half, he looked like shit. I'm not sure if it was because UGA cheap shotted him (like those fucking thugs always do) in the ribs, but he was off. I also know that OU needed to score a TD from the 25 yard line in OT to go to the National Championship game, and the Heisman trophy winning QB handed the ball off 3 times. This was after they had a 3rd and 2 in regulation on their own 45 and he threw a 30 yard wheel route. I'm not sure if that was on Baker or if somehow Malzahn hacked into the OU headsets to call plays.

As far as Stidham, it's hard to tell really. I thought the crap about Malzahn not being able to develop a good QB was just sort of BS. Now I am not really sure. Stidham seems to have the tools, but looked horrible yesterday. I have seen a couple of routes being run throughout the year where it looks like the WR is open, but Stidham doesn't pull the trigger. I don't get it. And I have no idea whether it's Stidham just not getting the job done or Malzahn not getting the job done. The two INT's yesterday were horrible. The last one especially is inexcusable. That was the biggest give up bullshit I have ever seen...
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Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 02, 2018, 01:13:58 PM
I am going to preface my next statement with this...I love Kodi Burns for his love of Auburn.  However, having a guy that spent 11 games at WR as your WR coarch just doesn't seem very smart to me.  It could be that Stidham holds onto the ball too long because there is noone out there that can get any kind of separation other than Will fucking Hastings, and that's only because he's elfin and can run a 3.9 second 40.

I know I took a video at some point and texted it to a group of yall, but I saw stidham stare down a slant in one of the games this year, where the WR broke free in the zone coverage and no one was around him. Stidham pumped but couldn't pull the trigger. I'm not sure this is all on the WR or the WR coach.
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Post by: CCTAU on January 02, 2018, 01:15:12 PM
Will fucking Hastings, and that's only because he's elfin and can run a 3.9 second 40.

True dat!

I'm not sure the guy will ever be able to "throw a WR open"...
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Post by: CCTAU on January 02, 2018, 01:24:59 PM
And I have no idea whether it's Stidham just not getting the job done or Malzahn not getting the job done. The two INT's yesterday were horrible. The last one especially is inexcusable. That was the biggest give up bullshit I have ever seen...

I'm not sure you can coach vision. It has to be in you. or learned. Right now, Stidham has NO vision if the play breaks down.

On the next to last play, he scrambled left and threw the ball OOBs. If you look right about teh numbers, you see NCM change direction heading back to the middle of the field. Left his guy standing still. Stidham throws it OOBs. No vision.

I think for our offense to work, Stidham will need to go live in practice and the offense will need to run as fast as they can. The offense as whole seems a step slow mentally. Especially Stidham.

If Stidham leave3s, I won't cry. Maybe then we get back to Malzahn's addiction to the option. 2013 ruined him. He tasted that football heroin and cannot get past it!
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Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 02, 2018, 04:26:26 PM
I'm not sure you can coach vision. It has to be in you. or learned. Right now, Stidham has NO vision if the play breaks down.

Not sure the difference in "coached" and "learned", but I absolutely think you can tell a QB where to throw the ball expecting where the WR is going to be given a certain coverage. That's high school level shit...much less DI SEC ball...
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 02, 2018, 05:13:00 PM
Not sure the difference in "coached" and "learned", but I absolutely think you can tell a QB where to throw the ball expecting where the WR is going to be given a certain coverage. That's high school level shit...much less DI SEC ball...

What you said above in a previous post is what I was thinking.  Receivers may be open but Stidham won't pull the trigger.  You don't have to be able to drive a car between the WR and DB for him to be open.  Again, I'm not trying to suggest that JS be on the level of top flight NFL QB's.  It's just that you watch those guys and all it takes is that split second when he sees that his receiver simply has inside position on the DB and he lets it fly. 

I know there was some question as to whether Malzahn wanted his QB's working with outside trainers.  Didn't White or one of them work with someone last year or the year before.  I obviously know exactly squat about coaching a QB.  But it seems to me that a professional QB coach or trainer could get with JS and work on recognition and quick release.  Teach him to trust that if his receiver is in a certain position with relation to the DB, he's open.  Turn it loose.
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Post by: The Prowler on January 02, 2018, 06:29:48 PM
Kerryon is entering the Draft, kinda figured that.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 02, 2018, 10:01:18 PM
Kerryon is entering the Draft, kinda figured that.

I think Holland and C. Davis will be the only other two.  Maybe Pettway, but that being more a result of an uncertain future at AU.

So I ask again, should it be a priority for this staff to target a big time back with the slots we have left in this class?  If Pettway is done, we may be in a world of hurt at RB if they don't go flip a 4*-5* or sign a top rated JUCO.   
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Post by: The Prowler on January 02, 2018, 10:04:57 PM
I think Holland and C. Davis will be the only other two.  Maybe Pettway, but that being more a result of an uncertain future at AU.

So I ask again, should it be a priority for this staff to target a big time back with the slots we have left in this class?  If Pettway is done, we may be in a world of hurt at RB if they don't go flip a 4*-5* or sign a top rated JUCO.
I'd go the JUCO route if any are available (looking at the Top 100 there aren't any)...bring in a "ground pounder" that can carry the ball 35 times a game on straight dive plays and get stronger as the game goes on. Of course we'll likely never know if a player like Malik Miller could be that guy, because apparently zero evaluations are done before the season starts and that usually carries on to around the 3rd or 4th game of the upcoming season.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 02, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
I'd go the JUCO route...bring in a "ground pounder" that can carry the ball 35 times a game on straight dive plays and get stronger as the game goes on.

I'd love to see that too.  Not to pile on Malzahn again, but I just worry about his usage of backs.  As much as I hate UGA, I give Smart credit for realizing he's got a stable of studs back there and they distribute the carries.  Obviously, Chubb and Meeshell get the majority of the totes, but they still mix in a couple of others throughout the game and give them some touches.  My worry is right now, we have Malik Miller at 225.  Everyone else is 185-200, including incoming freshman, Asa Martin.  That won't cut it in this league.  As good as Kerryon was at times, he was still only 205 at most and stayed beat up for 3 years.  Did the Smoke kid commit anywhere?
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Post by: Godfather on January 03, 2018, 12:29:26 AM
I'd love to see that too.  Not to pile on Malzahn again, but I just worry about his usage of backs.  As much as I hate UGA, I give Smart credit for realizing he's got a stable of studs back there and they distribute the carries.  Obviously, Chubb and Meeshell get the majority of the totes, but they still mix in a couple of others throughout the game and give them some touches.  My worry is right now, we have Malik Miller at 225.  Everyone else is 185-200, including incoming freshman, Asa Martin.  That won't cut it in this league.  As good as Kerryon was at times, he was still only 205 at most and stayed beat up for 3 years.  Did the Smoke kid commit anywhere?

Assuming Pettway is gonzo, returning would be:
Kam Martin (5-10, 182)
Malik Miller (5-11, 225)
Devan Barrett (6-0, 185)
WR turned RB JaTarvious Whitlow (6-0, 215) turned heads at bowl practice I heard. Course that will, mean dick I'm sure.

Signees
Asa Martin (5-11, 200)
Shaun Shivers (5-7, 169)
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Post by: jmar on January 03, 2018, 01:08:36 AM
Joiner still up for the highest bidder. Smoke still out there but getting more attention from State and USCe.

When Malzahn stops thinking he's Schembechler and Lindsey can do his thing Stidham will work well within our offense.
I only care about his place as an Auburn QB. Couldn't give a shit less if he ever "develops" into a pro. MOST NEVER WILL!
Easy to single out a player or deflect from the real problem which is Malzahn.

Malzahn/Stidham bad.
Lindsey/Stidham good.

Why is this so fucking hard for people to understand?
Is it because we need a fall guy, or one that will eventually leave?
No...the real problem is we refuse to admit that we are fucking locked-in for well over a decade with Gus. I will be eating goddamned cat food by the time Malzahn hangs it up at Auburn.
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Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2018, 08:30:18 AM
Not sure the difference in "coached" and "learned", but I absolutely think you can tell a QB where to throw the ball expecting where the WR is going to be given a certain coverage. That's high school level shit...much less DI SEC ball...

I submit that Stidham proved (after game 4 or so this season) he can and will thread the needle.  The question is why 4 weeks away from the game is the functional equivalent of 2 years for the guy.  "Rust" shouldn't manifest that quickly, but he damned sure held the ball like it was the Clemson game.  This is a coaching issue, not talent.

That said, our OLine did him no favors.  There was a lot of "fuckit" on the field Monday.
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Post by: jmar on January 03, 2018, 09:06:53 AM
I submit that Stidham proved (after game 4 or so this season) he can and will thread the needle.  The question is why 4 weeks away from the game is the functional equivalent of 2 years for the guy.  "Rust" shouldn't manifest that quickly, but he damned sure held the ball like it was the Clemson game.  This is a coaching issue, not talent.

That said, our OLine did him no favors.  There was a lot of "fuckit" on the field Monday.
Nobody ever hit the LB Griffin square, not once. Stidham got harrassed many more times than he was tackled for a loss.
And the stumbling game plan and play calling on first down did him no favors either. It looked like Malzahn from start to finish.
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Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2018, 09:09:44 AM

When Malzahn stops thinking he's Schembechler and Lindsey can do his thing Stidham will work well within our offense.

I said this to my buddy the other day. Let CCL run his pass first offense and see how it goes. Stidham is a pass first guy. If not, put in one of the running QBs ans lets live and die with that.

Until CGM lets go, we will be in a stranglehold!
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 09:21:21 AM
I submit that Stidham proved (after game 4 or so this season) he can and will thread the needle.  The question is why 4 weeks away from the game is the functional equivalent of 2 years for the guy.  "Rust" shouldn't manifest that quickly, but he damned sure held the ball like it was the Clemson game.  This is a coaching issue, not talent.

That said, our OLine did him no favors.  There was a lot of "fuckit" on the field Monday.

For the win.
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Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 03, 2018, 09:32:01 AM
Joiner still up for the highest bidder. Smoke still out there but getting more attention from State and USCe.

When Malzahn stops thinking he's Schembechler and Lindsey can do his thing Stidham will work well within our offense.
I only care about his place as an Auburn QB. Couldn't give a shit less if he ever "develops" into a pro. MOST NEVER WILL!
Easy to single out a player or deflect from the real problem which is Malzahn.

Malzahn/Stidham bad.
Lindsey/Stidham good.

Why is this so fucking hard for people to understand?
Is it because we need a fall guy, or one that will eventually leave?
No...the real problem is we refuse to admit that we are fucking locked-in for well over a decade with Gus. I will be eating goddamned cat food by the time Malzahn hangs it up at Auburn.

I think you misunderstand. I don't care if our QB ever really developes into a pro...other than for recruiting purposes. However, I would like to see development. Period.
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Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 03, 2018, 09:34:21 AM
Nobody ever hit the LB Griffin square, not once.

Dude single handedly whipped Auburn all-day.
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Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
Dude single handedly whipped Auburn all-day.

Gold.
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Post by: jmar on January 03, 2018, 09:53:16 AM
Dude single handedly whipped Auburn all-day.
What staff allows a single player to be that disruptive? This wasn't Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, LSU or State.
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Post by: jmar on January 03, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
And don't get me started on this disc golf guy side-arming risers that made our '08 secondary look respectable. Jesus the lag time on some of those tosses. Fucking backspin...with bite!
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 03, 2018, 10:08:03 AM
What staff allows a single player to be that disruptive? This wasn't Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, LSU or State.
It’s the “single handed” Comment jmar. Not about the schools.

Don’t you even recognize high level comedy when you see it? This man deserves accolades.

Just follow Wes’ lead. If he likes it, it was high IQ. He says so, anyway.
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Post by: jmar on January 03, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
It’s the “single handed” Comment jmar. Not about the schools.

Don’t you even recognize high level comedy when you see it? This man deserves accolades.

Just follow Wes’ lead. If he likes it, it was high IQ. He says so, anyway.
Humor didn't go unnoticed. My son gave me the one handed line in the second quarter.

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Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 03, 2018, 10:34:52 AM
Humor didn't go unnoticed. My son gave me the one handed line in the second quarter.
Jmar you did not commend the man.

I don’t want to make a big deal out of this but I can get things done around here.

Like the man’s post.
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Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2018, 10:39:45 AM
Not sure the difference in "coached" and "learned", but I absolutely think you can tell a QB where to throw the ball expecting where the WR is going to be given a certain coverage. That's high school level shit...much less DI SEC ball...

I've coached kids who would let it fly in an instant. And I've coached them that would wait for the guy to be standing wide open and waving arms. Its something that is in them. But I do know that as a coach, you have to encourage the aggressiveness. You have to foster that attitude of getting it out early and often.
With Gus, we got the attitude of strangle that ball so the other guy cannot get it. But that fosters a tentative attitude.
Will Gus ever have a true gunslinger? Probably not. But what he's doing to our throwing QBs is not good. Its time to let CCL crank up that pass first game and let that open up the running lanes.
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Post by: jmar on January 03, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
I've coached kids who would let it fly in an instant. And I've coached them that would wait for the guy to be standing wide open and waving arms. Its something that is in them. But I do know that as a coach, you have to encourage the aggressiveness. You have to foster that attitude of getting it out early and often.
With Gus, we got the attitude of strangle that ball so the other guy cannot get it. But that fosters a tentative attitude.
Will Gus ever have a true gunslinger? Probably not. But what he's doing to our throwing QBs is not good. Its time to let CCL crank up that pass first game and let that open up the running lanes.
I can see it Brother. I can see it till they show that overpaid asshole on the sideline looking like he's got it all figured out.


That's when reality sets in.
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Post by: Buzz Killington on January 03, 2018, 11:15:02 AM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2f/2fca3bca977a8ab01ef079c293eb2ee25288acdbb02412effd4b3d8f4d1dd938.jpg)
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Post by: JR4AU on January 03, 2018, 01:08:32 PM
I submit that Stidham proved (after game 4 or so this season) he can and will thread the needle.  The question is why 4 weeks away from the game is the functional equivalent of 2 years for the guy.  "Rust" shouldn't manifest that quickly, but he damned sure held the ball like it was the Clemson game.  This is a coaching issue, not talent.

That said, our OLine did him no favors.  There was a lot of "fuckit" on the field Monday.

The OL was atrocious in the Bowl, and Stidham is, was inconsistent.  Flashes of being good enough to carry the team at times, and others looking like the weak link.  Agree...to some extent...it's a coaching issue with him.  The players are responsible for taking the coaching too, but still...
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Post by: AUTiger1 on January 03, 2018, 01:15:58 PM
The OL was atrocious in the Bowl, and Stidham is, was inconsistent.  Flashes of being good enough to carry the team at times, and others looking like the weak link.  Agree...to some extent...it's a coaching issue with him.  The players are responsible for taking the coaching too, but still...

Where in the hell have you been?
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Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2018, 01:15:59 PM
Carlton Davis officially gone per twitter.
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Post by: The Six on January 03, 2018, 01:21:07 PM
Honk if your team housed it's two biggest rivals and all they have to show for it is coach's $49 million contract
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Post by: JR4AU on January 03, 2018, 01:23:48 PM
Where in the hell have you been?

Let's see....can't recall last real contact here....

Left the DA's office in 2014 to go coach HS football and teach full time.  Figured if I spent enough time in the classroom I'd wind up in prison for killing a kid, so I went back to practicing law. Now self employed and must actually earn my money so I work all the damn time.   
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 03, 2018, 01:25:16 PM
They only gave Gus a 25 mil raise after the ucf game?

No way we keep him.
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Post by: GH2001 on January 03, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
Let's see....can't recall last real contact here....

Left the DA's office in 2014 to go coach HS football and teach full time.  Figured if I spent enough time in the classroom I'd wind up in prison for killing a kid, so I went back to practicing law. Now self employed and must actually earn my money so I work all the damn time.   

You ma boy blue.

Come around more asshole.
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Post by: The Six on January 03, 2018, 01:30:06 PM
They only gave Gus a 25 mil raise after the ucf game?

No way we keep him.

$49 mil, $75 mil. What's the difference? Have to buy him out in two years anyway. Sigh...
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Post by: Godfather on January 03, 2018, 01:37:00 PM
Let's see....can't recall last real contact here....

Left the DA's office in 2014 to go coach HS football and teach full time.  Figured if I spent enough time in the classroom I'd wind up in prison for killing a kid, so I went back to practicing law. Now self employed and must actually earn my money so I work all the damn time.   

Short version....looking at pictures of feet on the interwebs.
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Post by: JR4AU on January 03, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
Short version....looking at pictures of feet on the interwebs.

I can do that on my phone while I drive.
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Post by: GH2001 on January 03, 2018, 01:54:59 PM
I can do that on my phone while I drive.

Feet.....and hairy bush. Ammarite?
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 02:19:53 PM
Feet.....and hairy bush. Ammarite?

Better than hairy feet and bush.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 03, 2018, 03:23:57 PM
Let's see....can't recall last real contact here....

Left the DA's office in 2014 to go coach HS football and teach full time.  Figured if I spent enough time in the classroom I'd wind up in prison for killing a kid, so I went back to practicing law. Now self employed and must actually earn my money so I work all the damn time.   

Sounds like you aren't a lawyer that cares.  If you cared like our esteemed colleague from the wiregrass you would be stylin' and profilin'.
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Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2018, 03:25:25 PM
Sounds like you aren't a lawyer that cares.  If you cared like our esteemed colleague from the wiregrass you would be stylin' and profilin'.

Instead, he gotta park his own damn car!
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Post by: JR4AU on January 03, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
Sounds like you aren't a lawyer that cares.  If you cared like our esteemed colleague from the wiregrass you would be stylin' and profilin'.

Fuck e'erbody...unless they can pay my fee, then I care like a muthfukka!   
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: GH2001 on January 03, 2018, 03:32:58 PM
Sounds like you aren't a lawyer that cares.  If you cared like our esteemed colleague from the wiregrass you would be stylin' and profilin'.

...and listening to fla ga line.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 03:43:54 PM
...and listening to fla ga line.

All I wanna do today is wear my favorite shades and get stoned
Work a little less, play a little more
That's what this day is for
And all I wanna do is lace my J's and lace some Jack in my Coke
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Six on January 03, 2018, 04:24:29 PM
Pettway gone

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft (https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft)
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Post by: Kaos on January 03, 2018, 04:25:55 PM
Pettway gone

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft (https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft)

HAHAHAHA..

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Godfather on January 03, 2018, 04:26:59 PM
Pettway gone

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft (https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft)

No big surprise here
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 04:33:20 PM
Cue the al dot  I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. piece about rats jumping ship.

I did actually see one piece today from the dot  I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. entitled something to the effect of Kam Martin says he's not transferring. 

Why?  Did he say he was?  Was that a question at some point?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 04:35:45 PM
As GF pointed out in another post, with Pettway leaving, we now have Malik Miller and His Band of Mighty Mites at running back.  They'd better really concentrate on nailing down a stud back with one of the remaining slots.
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Post by: The Six on January 03, 2018, 04:39:21 PM
As GF pointed out in another post, with Pettway leaving, we now have Malik Miller and His Band of Mighty Mites at running back.  They'd better really concentrate on nailing down a stud back with one of the remaining slots.

BAGMAN TO THE RESCUE  :miltie:
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Godfather on January 03, 2018, 04:39:27 PM
Cue the al dot  I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. piece about rats jumping ship.

I did actually see one piece today from the dot  I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. entitled something to the effect of Kam Martin says he's not transferring. 

Why?  Did he say he was?  Was that a question at some point?
Nope just al.com doing their thing.  They says we have a crowded backfield. 

If you have watched any AU football since Gus has been here, and you are a RB, I don't know why you would ever transfer.
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Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2018, 04:42:57 PM
Pettway gone

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft (https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-football-kamryn-pettway-declares-2018-nfl-draft)

He's praying for a Bronco draft!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Six on January 03, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
Nope just al.com doing their thing.  They says we have a crowded backfield. 

If you have watched any AU football since Gus has been here, and you are a RB, I don't know why you would ever transfer.

If you play TE, I don't know why'd you'd come here either. As for RBs, you want to become his favorite because you will play, until your balls fall off, but you will play,
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Kaos on January 03, 2018, 04:45:41 PM
As GF pointed out in another post, with Pettway leaving, we now have Malik Miller and His Band of Mighty Mites at running back.  They'd better really concentrate on nailing down a stud back with one of the remaining slots.

Very similar to Bowden and Lectron? Markeith? Robinson the WR at TB?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2018, 04:49:02 PM
Very similar to Bowden and Lectron? Markeith? Robinson the WR at TB?

Not really. Whitlow is a big boy. And Asa is fairly big.

We will have a decent mix. They won't all wear Mattel clothes.
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Post by: chinook on January 03, 2018, 04:49:36 PM
He's praying for a Bronco draft!

Seahawks!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: chinook on January 03, 2018, 04:50:39 PM
Maybe we can borrow one from Georgia.  They have a shit ton of 5* RBs. 

Fuck you Gus!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2018, 04:52:24 PM
Good news. We are now a pass first team!
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 04:55:03 PM
Not really. Whitlow is a big boy. And Asa is fairly big.

We will have a decent mix. They won't all wear Mattel clothes.

If Martin is all that and a big bag of Wavy Lays, he needs to be hitting that weight room right now and see if he can come in around 210. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Six on January 03, 2018, 04:58:49 PM
Good news. We are now a pass first team!

Is Stidham coming back? If he's not, who is on the JUCO level we can snag?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 05:01:05 PM
Is Stidham coming back? If he's not, who is on the JUCO level we can snag?

Did someone say Snags?  Put me in coach, I'm ready to play. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2018, 05:08:07 PM
With regard to Stidham, as I said in this or some other thread (Trust me, I said it) my armchair analysis says he's nowhere near NFL ready.  Not even in the same universe at this point.  Is that just me wishful thinking that he'll come back?  Probably, because I really want the guy to be taking snaps on the Planez next season.  But you all saw what I saw Monday.  That's not an NFL caliber QB, whether the line was half-assing it or not. As an NFL owner, would you take JS over:

•Lamar Jackson, Louisville.
•Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma.
•Josh Rosen, UCLA.
•Sam Darnold, USC.
•Josh Allen, Wyoming.
•Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State.
•Riley Ferguson, Memphis.
•Luke Falk, Washington State
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 03, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Did someone say Snags?  Put me in coach, I'm ready to play.
Gus does not use clipboards anymore. Just big cardboard signs.

Technology has passed you by.

Although you actually would likely be the best AU qb from Montgomery in the modern era. Second only to Charlie.
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Post by: GH2001 on January 03, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Maybe we can borrow one from Georgia.  They have a shit ton of 5* RBs. 

Fuck you Gus!

well, we had a few but Roc and Javon got R-u-n-n-o-f-t
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: GH2001 on January 03, 2018, 06:50:32 PM
All I wanna do today is wear my favorite shades and get stoned
Work a little less, play a little more
That's what this day is for
And all I wanna do is lace my J's and lace some Jack in my Coke

oh cmon....you just wanted to talk about mixing brown likker and dcp
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Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2018, 07:51:06 PM
Mud gone.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Prowler on January 03, 2018, 09:43:59 PM
So, next year we'll be breaking in a new offensive line and backfield. Might be a long season.
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Post by: Kaos on January 04, 2018, 03:22:20 AM
So, next year we'll be breaking in a new offensive line and backfield. Might be a long season.

this was a long season.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: jmar on January 04, 2018, 03:29:27 AM
With regard to Stidham, as I said in this or some other thread (Trust me, I said it) my armchair analysis says he's nowhere near NFL ready.  Not even in the same universe at this point.  Is that just me wishful thinking that he'll come back?  Probably, because I really want the guy to be taking snaps on the Planez next season.  But you all saw what I saw Monday.  That's not an NFL caliber QB, whether the line was half-assing it or not. As an NFL owner, would you take JS over:

•Lamar Jackson, Louisville.
•Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma.
•Josh Rosen, UCLA.
•Sam Darnold, USC.
•Josh Allen, Wyoming.
•Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State.
•Riley Ferguson, Memphis.
•Luke Falk, Washington State
Two of those you mention might prove to be serviceable NFL QBs over time.

Stidham has one full season and it's under a head coach that doesn't put much stock in development.  :sad:
Add to it that our HC puts a wildcat in around the redzone which limits the type of throws that pros are expected to make. Also robs him of a half dozen or more touchdown passes.

Stidham, IMO is the most accurate QB we've had since Jason Campbell and this while having to deal with Malzahn's play calling shell game.
Sorry I can't compare anyone with Cam Newton.

No Stidham isn't ready to advance but we are damn lucky to have him coming back given what's left of our offensive line.
Then there is the fact that we must have a badassed ball carrier willing to suffer as much punishment as his body will allow in order for Gus to function.

*Maybe we get Harold Joiner and he turns out to be Brandon Jacobslike (only he stays) or even Kavoisey Smoke.

What I originally hoped for Auburn offensively takes me back to Chris Todd where we saw signs of using nearly every weapon available and the entire field. Saw a poor man's version of that this season and in the Peach Bowl with UCF under Frost.
Damn you Snags!



Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: JR4AU on January 04, 2018, 08:25:12 AM
With regard to Stidham, as I said in this or some other thread (Trust me, I said it) my armchair analysis says he's nowhere near NFL ready.  Not even in the same universe at this point.  Is that just me wishful thinking that he'll come back?  Probably, because I really want the guy to be taking snaps on the Planez next season.  But you all saw what I saw Monday.  That's not an NFL caliber QB, whether the line was half-assing it or not. As an NFL owner, would you take JS over:

•Lamar Jackson, Louisville.
•Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma.
•Josh Rosen, UCLA.
•Sam Darnold, USC.
•Josh Allen, Wyoming.
•Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State.
•Riley Ferguson, Memphis.
•Luke Falk, Washington State

Stidham declaring?   I hadn't even considered that he'd be that fucking stupid and delusional. 
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 04, 2018, 08:37:36 AM
Can we quick kick on 1st down and hope the defense can get turnovers?
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 04, 2018, 09:14:01 AM
Stidham declaring?   I hadn't even considered that he'd be that fucking stupid and delusional.

I haven't heard anything about him declaring.  Just a what if?  However, people have done dumber things.  Like this one time at band camp....
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Post by: Godfather on January 04, 2018, 10:08:10 AM
I'm not worried about the size on these guys we have a good mix.  If we use a running back committee ....of course Gus.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: JR4AU on January 04, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
I'm not worried about the size on these guys we have a good mix.  If we use a running back committee ....of course Gus.

Ed Zachery...Gus will be 8 games in to the season before he figures out the right "formula" or team personality. 

Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: djsimp on January 04, 2018, 10:47:15 AM
Looks like Gatewood and Martin will be seeing lots of playing time.
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Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2018, 01:37:01 PM
Looks like Gatewood and Martin will be seeing lots of playing time.

Can't believe I'm agreeing on Gatewood but I've read some shit today I can hardly believe.
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: djsimp on January 05, 2018, 09:57:00 AM
Can't believe I'm agreeing on Gatewood but I've read some shit today I can hardly believe.

Saw Gatewood in the UA HS Allstar game some yesterday. Looked pretty good actually. Made some great throws with a few dropped. That was on the WR though.
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 05, 2018, 09:59:09 AM
Saw Gatewood in the UA HS Allstar game some yesterday. Looked pretty good actually. Made some great throws with a few dropped. That was on the WR though.
You cannot coach a WR to catch, that’s for sure.

I think that’s right.
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Post by: Buzz Killington on January 05, 2018, 10:14:13 AM
You cannot coach a WR to catch, that’s for sure.

I think that’s right.

I have a jar of uncooked rice that says something
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Post by: The Six on January 05, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
You cannot coach a WR to catch, that’s for sure.

I think that’s right.

Greg Knox agrees.
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Post by: Kaos on January 05, 2018, 10:33:30 AM
Greg Knox agrees.

Don't you mean Interim Mississippi State Head Coach Greg Knox?  Same Greg Knox who before Saturday night was the only SEC coach to win a bowl game, Greg Knox?
Title: Re: Who Goes? Who Stays? Who Sits?
Post by: The Six on January 05, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
Don't you mean Interim Mississippi State Head Coach Greg Knox?  Same Greg Knox who before Saturday night was the only SEC coach to win a bowl game, Greg Knox?

That would be new University of Florida assistant coach Greg Knox. http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/floridas_dan_mullen_adds_sal_s.html (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/floridas_dan_mullen_adds_sal_s.html)
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Post by: The Prowler on January 05, 2018, 08:49:03 PM
Stidham is coming back.

I didn't realize, until now, that Stidham was only 120yds passing away from holding the Auburn record. He and Dameyune Craig are the only two QBs to throw for more than 3,000yds in a season at Auburn.
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Post by: jmar on January 05, 2018, 09:09:35 PM
Stidham is coming back.

I didn't realize, until now, that Stidham was only 120yds passing away from holding the Auburn record. He and Dameyune Craig are the only two QBs to throw for more than 3,000yds in a season at Auburn.
Yeah he holds the season mark in all categories this season if not for Gus' bullheadedness.