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Title: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: wesfau2 on November 15, 2017, 10:55:16 AM
Ark seems sure they're getting Gus.  Weird.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 15, 2017, 10:57:59 AM
It honestly wouldn't surprise me.

And I have mixed feelings. I have no love for Gus, but I'll be damned if he doesn't surprise me every now and then. There are a lot of shitty coaches out there. And I damn sure don't want to be looking for a coach with UT and UF and the whole host of other teams out there right now.

If he goes, I would want the dude from Iowa State. I think I may take him over Gus right now. Other than that, I just don't know.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: djsimp on November 15, 2017, 10:59:20 AM
A blind man could see this coming really. Ark fans are done with Fat Bastard and want their native son to come back home. To be honest, it wouldn't really surprise me if Gus were to take that job if offered.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 15, 2017, 11:12:16 AM
Ark seems sure they're getting Gus.  Weird.

Brandon Marcello told Finebaum Friday night that there have definitely been contacts between Arky and Gus' peeps.  However, haven't we watched this episode several times already?  Didn't CTT pull this on us about 3 years in a row?

It could very well be that Jimmy Sexton is laughing his ass off going, "Watch this.  Hold my beer".
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: wesfau2 on November 15, 2017, 11:16:08 AM
Brandon Marcello told Finebaum Friday night that there have definitely been contacts between Arky and Gus' peeps.  However, haven't we watched this episode several times already?  Didn't CTT pull this on us about 3 years in a row?

It could very well be that Jimmy Sexton is laughing his ass off going, "Watch this.  Hold my beer".

I think it's unlikely that he goes there.  Your Sexton-scenario is pretty likely, actually.

I think Gus is too polarizing to be a viable candidate in Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 15, 2017, 11:24:07 AM
I think it's unlikely that he goes there.  Your Sexton-scenario is pretty likely, actually.

I think Gus is too polarizing to be a viable candidate in Arkansas.

I'm always skeptical whenever stuff like this gets leaked.  It makes me think it's more likely than not, made up or leaked for a purpose.  Logically speaking, if someone from the Ark BOT did call Sexton to inquire, how on earth would that wind up on Marcello's plate?

Having said that, I think it's perfectly plausible that the Piggies could have actual interest in Gus.  They may not be looking at the big picture and only focused on the beat down they've received from AU the last few years.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 11:25:18 AM
If he goes, he goes.

The only upside from that is that Auburn would have more money to throw at someone else, not having to pay the ridiculous JJ buyout package.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUChizad on November 15, 2017, 11:25:43 AM
I think it's unlikely that he goes there.  Your Sexton-scenario is pretty likely, actually.

I think Gus is too polarizing to be a viable candidate in Arkansas.
I disagree.

If I were him, after the abuse he's taken from our fans this year, I'd go where I was wanted and where I called home. I'd get out while it was of my own volition so it didn't look like I was yesterday's garbage and instead that it was a natural upward trajectory to my end goal of being coach of the flagship school of the state I grew up in.

And it serves us right, to be honest.

That's not to say after losing to LSU and to that point having only pulled off one miracle win per each of our main rivals over the course of four years with #1 & #2 UGA & Bama looming wasn't reason to have him on a short leash, but just sayin'.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUChizad on November 15, 2017, 11:27:19 AM
If he goes, he goes.

The only upside from that is that Auburn would have more money to throw at someone else, not having to pay the ridiculous JJ buyout package.
How is the buyout structured? I recall it being very one-sided (thanks Jay). If so, even more reason for him to voluntarily jump ship to "come home".
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUChizad on November 15, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
Having said that, I think it's perfectly plausible that the Piggies could have actual interest in Gus.  They may not be looking at the big picture and only focused on the beat down they've received from AU the last few years.
I don't think it's that short-sited of them. It's a clear upgrade to BERT.

I think we're pretty spoiled when you look around the SEC at who you'd prefer to Gus. It's fewer than you think when you actually are forced to give a specific answer. And now half the SEC is about to gobble up whatever decent coaches may be out there.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: wesfau2 on November 15, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
I disagree.

If I were him, after the abuse he's taken from our fans this year, I'd go where I was wanted and where I called home. I'd get out while it was of my own volition so it didn't look like I was yesterday's garbage and instead that it was a natural upward trajectory to my end goal of being coach of the flagship school of the state I grew up in.

And it serves us right, to be honest.

That's not to say after losing to LSU and to that point having only pulled off one miracle win per each of our main rivals over the course of four years with #1 & #2 UGA & Bama looming wasn't reason to have him on a short leash, but just sayin'.

Not arguing any of that.  Just saying that there is a pretty strong contingent of the Ark PTB that hate him for any of the following:

"recruiting" HS kids to Springdale HS
conflict with Nutt during his tenure as OC
coaching at ASU
Kristi
leaving Arkansas

He's controversial there.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 11:34:31 AM
How is the buyout structured? I recall it being very one-sided (thanks Jay). If so, even more reason for him to voluntarily jump ship to "come home".
An article from last year.  It's less now, but not by much.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburnauthority/2016/09/18/13795-million-decision-potential-buyout-analysis-gus-malzahn-his-staff/90623234/ (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburnauthority/2016/09/18/13795-million-decision-potential-buyout-analysis-gus-malzahn-his-staff/90623234/)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUJarhead on November 15, 2017, 11:40:12 AM
How is the buyout structured? I recall it being very one-sided (thanks Jay). If so, even more reason for him to voluntarily jump ship to "come home".

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

From what I can tell, if bought out by Dec 1, 2017:  6,898,958  Note, this is just for Gus, not the assistance, and I'm sure there would be extra money to buy them out of their contracts as well.

Matt Campbell's buyout on the same date is 9,575,000.  (He's also who I would want to hire)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 15, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
I disagree.

If I were him, after the abuse he's taken from our fans this year, I'd go where I was wanted and where I called home. I'd get out while it was of my own volition so it didn't look like I was yesterday's garbage and instead that it was a natural upward trajectory to my end goal of being coach of the flagship school of the state I grew up in.

And it serves us right, to be honest.

That's not to say after losing to LSU and to that point having only pulled off one miracle win per each of our main rivals over the course of four years with #1 & #2 UGA & Bama looming wasn't reason to have him on a short leash, but just sayin'.

Hells, bells, he is wanted here IF, he could recruit and train a QB that is not a JUCO. Not shit the bed at least one or two times a season with piss poor play calling and plays that everyone knows is coming.

We have had top ten recruiting classes with barely top 20 coaching from him until last Sat.

The abuse he took this year is all his own doing for the last three years we have had put up with him.   
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Kaos on November 15, 2017, 01:40:04 PM
I have some contacts in Arkansas. They told me last week he’s already made the deal. Thinks he can walk out with a national title and come to Arkansas as a conquering hero with a six year cushion.

Mixed feelings. 

Never against him personally.   But he has limitations.  He’s had too much talent to be wallowing around with five losses a year.  If he thinks he can get same level talent in Arkansas? He’s dreaming. He cannot succeed there at the level he has at Auburn.  His lack of experience sometimes handcuffs him.

Tuberville had a knack for taking less talent, coaching it up and beating folks we shouldn’t have. To this point Gus has had better talent but managed to fiddle fuck his way to a couple of losses that shouldn’t happen. I’d be okay with seeing if he’s finally worked his way out of that. 

The good thing? If he does leave, the roster is stacked. The offensive talent we have — assuming Stidham stays — could easily and successfully transition into a different scheme. Might even be stronger.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 15, 2017, 01:51:58 PM
I gots a crisp $50 that says Malzahn is not at Arkansas next year and Gruden will not be UT's coach.

Any takers?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 15, 2017, 02:08:41 PM
I gots a crisp $50 that says Malzahn is not at Arkansas next year and Gruden will not be UT's coach.

Any takers?

None here.  My exact thoughts.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on November 15, 2017, 02:19:25 PM
I gots a crisp $50 that says Malzahn is not at Arkansas next year and Gruden will not be UT's coach.

Any takers?

I'll back your $50 with another $50

Any takers
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 15, 2017, 02:19:39 PM
I gots a crisp $50 that says Malzahn is not at Arkansas next year and Gruden will not be UT's coach.

Any takers?


I'll take that bet.



BUT




To collect, I'll need a flight to Atlanta, (lets say Sept 8th weekend 2018) Since I'll be in Auburn can you get me game tickets? A hotel room for the weekend would be nice.   Those 50 ones can then be all yours.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
I would gladly take the $50 off your hands if you hadn't put the Gus thing in there.  I know for a fact that Gruden will be UT's next coarch.














unless he isn't
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUJarhead on November 15, 2017, 02:36:09 PM
I would gladly take the $50 off your hands if you hadn't put the Gus thing in there.  I know for a fact that Gruden will be UT's next coarch.














unless he isn't

Just make an avatar bet.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 15, 2017, 02:47:12 PM
I'm taking a wait and see approach with CGM.  Not that the AU brass give two fickity fucks what I think.  The last 3 games have gotten progressively better with regard to play calling, culminating in beating the #1 team, and one of the thorns in our side, with the best play calling I've ever seen under Gus.  Georgia has a stout D and they had no clue.  They were off balance all night long. 

So, who was responsible for that?  Was that Gus' game plan?  Did he let Lindsey do his thing?  Did they work in tandem? 

The LSU game was a debacle.  It was a coaching melt down.  The first quarter looked like this past Saturday night.  The last 3 looked just like the first coaching melt down this season, the Clemson game.  Two plays.  Up the middle or heave it (Try to) 40 yards down field.  Were those games the predictions many of us made coming to fruition? Gus not being able to keep his paws off the offense like he promised?

And that's what scares me about the man.  Is this recent run Gus reinventing himself for the 8th time since he's been at Auburn?  Is this the new Gus, coaching aggressively and pulling out all the stops?  Or did the LSU game put him in his place and he turned it all over to the OC?  Who knows.  Either way, we're #6 and he's our guy.  Just wish I knew which one he was.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 02:52:30 PM
Just wish I knew which one he was.
Get out of my head.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: MrAZiffell on November 15, 2017, 03:06:52 PM
You can keep him...Thanks anyway....
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 15, 2017, 03:14:48 PM
You can keep him...Thanks anyway....

Oh no you don't. You're taking him with you. 
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 03:21:08 PM
You can keep him...Thanks anyway....
So, you're a fan of the MS&M?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 15, 2017, 03:34:26 PM
I'm taking a wait and see approach with CGM.  Not that the AU brass give two fickity fucks what I think.  The last 3 games have gotten progressively better with regard to play calling, culminating in beating the #1 team, and one of the thorns in our side, with the best play calling I've ever seen under Gus.  Georgia has a stout D and they had no clue.  They were off balance all night long. 

So, who was responsible for that?  Was that Gus' game plan?  Did he let Lindsey do his thing?  Did they work in tandem? 

The LSU game was a debacle.  It was a coaching melt down.  The first quarter looked like this past Saturday night.  The last 3 looked just like the first coaching melt down this season, the Clemson game.  Two plays.  Up the middle or heave it (Try to) 40 yards down field.  Were those games the predictions many of us made coming to fruition? Gus not being able to keep his paws off the offense like he promised?

And that's what scares me about the man.  Is this recent run Gus reinventing himself for the 8th time since he's been at Auburn?  Is this the new Gus, coaching aggressively and pulling out all the stops?  Or did the LSU game put him in his place and he turned it all over to the OC?  Who knows.  Either way, we're #6 and he's our guy.  Just wish I knew which one he was.
Just want to add that it’s not only AU brass that do not care at all what you think.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Kaos on November 15, 2017, 03:40:15 PM
Maybe it's just not having to worry about looking over and seeing this during the games that has freed him. 

(http://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width620/img/sports_impact/photo/19460750-mmmain.jpg)

Or maybe he's got an annual Jay signed and in 40 years is going to come out and claim he was abused or some shit.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 15, 2017, 04:16:02 PM
Maybe it's just not having to worry about looking over and seeing this during the games that has freed him. 

(http://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width620/img/sports_impact/photo/19460750-mmmain.jpg)

Or maybe he's got an annual Jay signed and in 40 years is going to come out and claim he was abused or some shit.
So you are saying Gus hates lesbians? or is homophobic? Either way that shouldn't be tolerated.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: MrAZiffell on November 15, 2017, 04:19:09 PM
Oh no you don't. You're taking him with you.

https://youtu.be/4QHHGHve_N0 (https://youtu.be/4QHHGHve_N0)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 15, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
Wouldn't be prudent.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Kaos on November 15, 2017, 04:29:21 PM
So Arkansas fired Jeff Long, the diplomatic former head of the CFP committee.  Pretty much a given that Bert will be headed to the Danny's Fried Chicken Buffet soon. 

The Hogs named an interim.  As hogs go, she's passable.

(http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cromer.png)

Does this move have any resonance regarding the original discussion?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 04:33:28 PM
So Arkansas fired Jeff Long, the diplomatic former head of the CFP committee.  Pretty much a given that Bert will be headed to the Danny's Fried Chicken Buffet soon. 

The Hogs named an interim.  As hogs go, she's passable.

(http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cromer.png)

Does this move have any resonance regarding the original discussion?
Would hit
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 15, 2017, 04:35:30 PM
Would hit
Again...we have already determined there isn't much you wouldn't.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 15, 2017, 04:40:05 PM
So Arkansas fired Jeff Long, the diplomatic former head of the CFP committee.  Pretty much a given that Bert will be headed to the Danny's Fried Chicken Buffet soon. 

The Hogs named an interim.  As hogs go, she's passable.

(http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cromer.png)

Does this move have any resonance regarding the original discussion?

Would hit


shhhhiiittt, I'd crash a motorcycle with her on the back.   :gig:
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Kaos on November 15, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
Would hit

After me?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 15, 2017, 04:47:10 PM
:OMG:
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 15, 2017, 07:01:50 PM
So Arkansas fired Jeff Long, the diplomatic former head of the CFP committee.  Pretty much a given that Bert will be headed to the Danny's Fried Chicken Buffet soon. 

The Hogs named an interim.  As hogs go, she's passable.

(http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cromer.png)

Does this move have any resonance regarding the original discussion?
You are probably the only other person on here besides me, that can appreciate how good Danny’s chicken is.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 15, 2017, 09:42:10 PM
After me?
No.  Instead of.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 16, 2017, 12:54:19 AM
You are probably the only other person on here besides me, that can appreciate how good Danny’s chicken is.
It's the special ammonia brine that makes Danny's one of a kind.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 16, 2017, 01:27:28 AM
Frost, Norvell ,Babers etc. are the candidates. Gruden and Kelly are diversions.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: MrAZiffell on November 16, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
Frost, Norvell ,Babers etc. are the candidates. Gruden and Kelly are diversions.

Notice the tie....just saying....Red!
(10th post)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
Ziffel, what was the deal with firing Long?  Has that been in the works for a while?  Did he pork a BOT's wife or daughter or something?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 16, 2017, 12:17:42 PM
No.  Instead of.

Again you will take Dallas's sloppy seconds but not Kaos? You have no basis to set any standards.

 :by:
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
Butter tooth
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: CCTAU on November 16, 2017, 12:55:36 PM
Butter tooth

Worse...butter head!
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: MrAZiffell on November 16, 2017, 01:19:41 PM
Ziffel, what was the deal with firing Long?  Has that been in the works for a while?  Did he pork a BOT's wife or daughter or something?
some things I've heard...seems to have started about the time Mo & VaTech came back to kick our ass last year & has been picking up steam since...

didn't kiss big $ donors ass enough...

His head expanded every year

Stadium expansion...cost

disagreement w/Guv...if true, he lost argument

raised ticket prices...FB & BB

There are echos in both our FB & BB stadiums...during the games. (empty seats)

A lot of people around here don't like pepsi drinkin' carpet baggers...(I've seen him drink diet coke)

& it's Ziffell w/2 L's....

Did I mention our FB team sucks?

Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Kaos on November 16, 2017, 01:32:05 PM

Did I mention our FB team sucks?

You have a Facebook team?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 16, 2017, 02:09:29 PM
You have a Facebook team?
You should see their uniforms
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: JDHog on November 16, 2017, 02:09:48 PM
Not arguing any of that.  Just saying that there is a pretty strong contingent of the Ark PTB that hate him for any of the following:

"recruiting" HS kids to Springdale HS
conflict with Nutt during his tenure as OC
coaching at ASU
Kristi
leaving Arkansas

He's controversial there.

All true.  But we are at rock bottom.  Who in the hell are we going to get?  Realistically?  Is Gus even realistic?

Compared to Fat Bastard and JL Smith, Gus has had a lot of success.  All the while Arkansas has sucked ass.  Some see a native Arkansan doing this elsewhere and want to bring him home.

I'm in kind of the 'meh' category on Gus.  I'd sure take him though.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 16, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
All true.  But we are at rock bottom.  Who in the hell are we going to get?  Realistically?  Is Gus even realistic?

Compared to Fat Bastard and JL Smith, Gus has had a lot of success.  All the while Arkansas has sucked ass.  Some see a native Arkansan doing this elsewhere and want to bring him home.

I'm in kind of the 'meh' category on Gus.  I'd sure take him though.
That's what I was thinking. We are kinda meh on him as well.  But seeing what you currently have (us seeing what's out there) he doesn't look as bad.

Was a bit surprised Ziffell was a straight up don't want.  Gus ain't much but he's certainly a step-up from what you got.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: MrAZiffell on November 16, 2017, 03:20:08 PM
Was a bit surprised Ziffell was a straight up don't want.  Gus ain't much but he's certainly a step-up from what you got.

I prefer not....but they probably won't call me....

& I agree he'd be a major step up....but a guy can dream...
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 16, 2017, 03:37:24 PM
Notice the tie....just saying....Red!
(10th post)
Looks like a european socialist to me.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 03:42:36 PM
So, if you knew your team was going to make a change, is there anyone from the SEC, Head Corch of Ass Corch, that you would want?  And you can say Saban if you want because I'd love to see what he could really do without the "backing" that he has at Bama.  Obviously, he did a good job at LSU.  How about assistants.  Any potentially good future head coaches in your mind?


Alabama Crimson Tide

Head coach: Nick Saban

Assistant coaches:

Brian Daboll (OC/QB)
 Jeremy Pruitt (DC)
 Tosh Lupoi (LB)
 Derrick Ansley (DB)
 Burton Burns (RB)
 Karl Dunbar (DL)
 Brent Key (OL)
 Mike Locksley (WR)
 Joe Pannunzio (TE/ST)

Arkansas Razorbacks

Head coach: Bret Bielema

Assistant coaches:

Dan Enos (OC/QB)
 Paul Rhoads (DC/DB)
 Kurt Anderson (OL)
 Vernon Hargreaves (LB)
 Barry Lunney Jr. (TE)
 Reggie Mitchell (RB)
 Michael Smith (WR)
 John Scott Jr. (DL)
 Chad Walker (OLB)

Auburn Tigers

Head coach: Gus Malzahn

Assistant coaches:

Chip Lindsey (OC/QB)
 Kevin Steele (DC)
 Rodney Garner (DL)
 Kodi Burns (WR)
 Greg Brown (DB)
 Herb Hand (OL)
 Tim Horton (RB/ST)
 Larry Porter (TE)
 Travis Williams (LB)

Florida Gators

Head coach: Jim McElwain

Assistant coaches:

Doug Nussmeier (OC/QB)
 Randy Shannon (DC)
 Corey Bell (DB)
 Brad Davis (OL)
 Kerry Dixon II (WR)
 Greg Nord (TE/ST)
 Chris Rumph (DL)
 Ja’Juan Seider (RB)
 Tim Skipper (LB)

Georgia Bulldogs

Head coach: Kirby Smart

Assistant coaches:

Jim Chaney (OC/QB)
 Mel Tucker (DC/DB)
 Sam Pittman (OL)
 James Coley (WR)
 Dell McGee (RB)
 Shane Beamer (TE/ST)
 Glenn Schumann (ILB)
 Kevin Sherrer (OLB)
 Tray Scott (DL)

Kentucky Wildcats

Head coach: Mark Stoops

Assistant coaches:

Eddie Gran (OC/RB)
 Matt House (DC/ILB)
 Darin Hinshaw (QB)
 Vince Marrow (TE)
 John Schlarman (OL)
 Steve Clinkscale (DB)
 Dean Hood (OLB/ST)
 Derrick Leblanc (DL)
 Lamar Thomas (WR)

LSU Tigers

Head coach: Ed Orgeron

Assistant coaches:

Matt Canada (OC)
 Dave Aranda (DC)
 Steve Ensminger (TE)
 Jeff Grimes (OL)
 Pete Jenkins (DL)
 Dennis Johnson (OLB)
 Mickey Joseph (WR)
 Corey Raymond (DB)
 Tommie Robinson (RB)

Mississippi State Bulldogs

Head coach: Dan Mullen

Assistant coaches:

Billy Gonzales (co-OC/WR)
 John Hevesy (co-OC/OL)
 Todd Grantham (DC/LB)
 Brian Baker (DL)
 Terrell Buckley (CB)
 Brett Elliott (QB)
 Ron English (S)
 Greg Knox (RB/ST)
 D.J. Looney (TE)

Missouri Tigers

Head coach: Barry Odom

Assistant coaches:

Josh Heupel (OC/QB)
 DeMontie Cross (DC/ILB)
 Ryan Walters (DB)
 Andy Hill (WR)
 Cornell Ford (RB)
 Glen Elarbee (OL)
 Joe Jon Finley (TE)
 Brick Haley (DL)
 Brian Odom (OLB)

Ole Miss Rebels

Head coach: Matt Luke

Assistant coaches:

Phil Longo (OC/QB)
 Wesley McGriff (DC)
 Maurice Harris (TE)
 Jason Jones (CB)
 Matt Luke (OL)
 Derrick Nix (RB)
 Jacob Peeler (WR)
 Bradley Dale Peveto (LB/ST)
 Freddie Roach (DL)

South Carolina Gamecocks

Head coach: Will Muschamp

Assistant coaches:

Kurt Roper (OC/QB)
 Travaris Robinson (DC/DB)
 Bryan McClendon (WR)
 Bobby Bentley (RB)
 Coleman Hutzler (LB/ST)
 Mike Peterson (OLB)
 Lance Thompson (DL)
 Pat Washington (TE)
 Eric Wolford (OL)

Tennessee Volunteers

Head coach: Butch Jones

Assistant coaches:

Larry Scott (OC/TE)
 Bob Shoop (DC)
 Brady Hoke (DL)
 Zach Azzanni (WR)
 Robert Gillespie (RB)
 Charlton Warren (DB/ST)
 Mike Canales (QB)
 Tommy Thigpen (LB)
 Walt Wells (OL)

Texas A&M Aggies

Head coach: Kevin Sumlin

Assistant coaches:

Noel Mazzone (OC)
 John Chavis (DC)
 Jeff Banks (TE/ST)
 Ron Cooper (DB)
 Clarence McKinney (RB)
 Aaron Moorehead (WR)
 Terry Price (DE)
 David Turner (DT)
 Jim Turner (OL)

Vanderbilt Commodores

Head coach: Derek Mason

Assistant coaches:

Andy Ludwig (OC/TE)
 C.J. Ah You (DL)
 Gerry Gdowski (QB)
 Jeff Genyk (RB/ST)
 Cortez Hankton (WR)
 Osia Lewis (OLB)
 Chris Marve (ILB)
 Marc Mattioli (DB)
 Cameron Norcross (OL)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUJarhead on November 16, 2017, 03:48:38 PM
Always thought Eddie Gran would be a good head coach one day, not that I want him next year on the plains.  I'd be curious to see how Pruitt or Grantham would be as HCs as well.  I liked Shannon at Miami, but he seems like he's just a better DC, kind of how I'll always view Chizik.

And I'll always wonder how Mason would do if he were at a good school, where he could get good talent.

Other than that, meh.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 16, 2017, 03:51:07 PM
Damn...just noticed how far Brady Hoke has fallen.  From HC at Meeeechigan to DL coarch at Tennessee, you really can't buff that out.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Saniflush on November 16, 2017, 03:51:23 PM
Gus ain't going anywhere, book it.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: AUJarhead on November 16, 2017, 03:51:45 PM
Damn...just noticed how far Brady Hoke has fallen.  From HC at Meeeechigan to DL coarch at Tennessee, you really can't buff that out.

He's the interim coach now.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 16, 2017, 03:53:05 PM
He's the interim coach now.
Well, there's that.  I must have missed that...
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Godfather on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
So, if you knew your team was going to make a change, is there anyone from the SEC, Head Corch of Ass Corch, that you would want?  And you can say Saban if you want because I'd love to see what he could really do without the "backing" that he has at Bama.  Obviously, he did a good job at LSU.  How about assistants.  Any potentially good future head coaches in your mind?

#1. JOHN GRUDEN
#2. MIKE BOBO
#C. BILL CLARK (after he beats UF)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 04:00:48 PM
JOHN GRUDEN

So, you're saying Chip Kelly to Tennessee?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 16, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
To Bill Clark!   :booz:
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 04:05:27 PM
I had to look it up to make sure the TE coach for USCe is the same Pat Washington that played QB at AU.  29 year coaching career.  That one slipped right by me.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 16, 2017, 04:12:25 PM
Auburn Tigers

Head coach: Gus Malzahn

Assistant coaches:

Chip Lindsey (OC/QB)
 Kevin Steele (DC)
 Rodney Garner (DL)
 Kodi Burns (WR)
 Greg Brown (DB)
 Herb Hand (OL)
 Tim Horton (RB/ST)
 Larry Porter (TE)             What do you think he does at practice?       
 Travis Williams (LB)
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: wesfau2 on November 16, 2017, 04:53:31 PM
Gimme Steve Motherfucking Ensminger...champions of the universe!

Seriously, I'd take any of the following on staff:

Pruitt
T-Rob
Rhoads
Rumph
Heupel
Grimes
McGriff

I'd expect, of that list, that Pruitt is probably the next HC with Heupel, Canada and Aranda shortly thereafter.

Side note: it's funny to see how many of the old Auburn assistants are still kicking around the league.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 05:05:44 PM
Speaking of former AU assistants, I wonder if A&M fans go through the same things we do with regard to HC and OC.  Noel Mazzone is the coordinator.  Sumlin was the offensive guru.  Who calls the plays and does Sumlin point to Mazzone when things aren't going right?
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: wesfau2 on November 16, 2017, 05:44:37 PM
Speaking of former AU assistants, I wonder if A&M fans go through the same things we do with regard to HC and OC.  Noel Mazzone is the coordinator.  Sumlin was the offensive guru.  Who calls the plays and does Sumlin point to Mazzone when things aren't going right?

Yeeeeeeeeeah...68th in total offense has to be disappointing.  Does Sumlin have a rep as CEO or playcaller?  Whatever it is...it ain't working.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: The Prowler on November 16, 2017, 06:04:39 PM
So, you're saying Chip Kelly to Tennessee?
I figure Kelly is going to Florida, he'd have them Championship ready within a few years.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 16, 2017, 08:24:31 PM
I figure Kelly is going to Florida, he'd have them Championship ready within a few years.

I'm not sold on Kelly's offense working in this league.  Not because I don't think he's a good coach.  Everything I've read about the man is that you wouldn't ever get a harder working HC than CK.  But I think since his time at Oregon, that spread it out, fast paced O has long since been introduced to the SEC.  Just about everyone runs some form of it.  Even Saban started speeding things up the last couple of years. 
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 17, 2017, 05:29:34 AM
I figure Kelly is going to Florida, he'd have them Championship ready within a few years.
Barring conference "show cause" issues, Kelly would seem to be a good fit in Gainesville.
Spurrier wasn't a recruiter either, but talent lined-up there for the F&G offense.
They have a pretty good foundation for defense.
Need facilities upgrade in all facets according to talking heads.

IMO though, Florida is after Scott Frost. 

Maybe he goes home to Lincoln to become their Kirk Ferentz but Frost knows that immediate region is devoid of talent and it will have to be imported from afar. 


TAMU is said to be courting Jimbo Fisher (reportedly turned down 7M+/- offer from LSU post-Miles /pre-Orgeron.
The Aggies have plenty of money to throw around plus they don't have to cow to state legislators.
If Fisher exits Tallahassee that leaves a temporary talent vacuum in north FL, south GA.     
* Auburn with even a semi-heavy recruiting presence in those areas would be scary dangerous.

 
So much of the talk is intended to drive up salaries but FSU is effing maxed-out!


It's customary for the next post to be FUCK FSU! , Jimbo or jmar... something brilliant to that effect.
       
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 17, 2017, 05:49:42 AM
I'm not sold on Kelly's offense working in this league.  Not because I don't think he's a good coach.  Everything I've read about the man is that you wouldn't ever get a harder working HC than CK.  But I think since his time at Oregon, that spread it out, fast paced O has long since been introduced to the SEC.  Just about everyone runs some form of it.  Even Saban started speeding things up the last couple of years.
I'm sold on Kelly's offense working with Florida talent. That said, I would be thrilled if Florida only reaches a similar level with UGA. 
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 17, 2017, 06:48:51 AM
Gimme Steve Motherfucking Ensminger...champions of the universe!

Seriously, I'd take any of the following on staff:

Pruitt
T-Rob
Rhoads
Rumph
Heupel
Grimes
McGriff

I'd expect, of that list, that Pruitt is probably the next HC with Heupel, Canada and Aranda shortly thereafter.

Side note: it's funny to see how many of the old Auburn assistants are still kicking around the league.
I still think Aranda's footprint is present with Wisconsin's current defensive talent. The Badger's have played a soft schedule although Michigan is visiting Madison this week.
Wisconsin could get in our way (same for Oklahoma) should we barely eek out a W versus the Turds or in the SECCG if we advance.

*Note to self, all X'ers, Auburn fans and the world of college football in general:

It should come as no shock if Alabama somehow gets more consideration than it should.
It's a given... so much so that for all intents and purposes...it's a bylaw.



   
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: GH2001 on November 17, 2017, 07:34:29 AM
I'm not sold on Kelly's offense working in this league.  Not because I don't think he's a good coach.  Everything I've read about the man is that you wouldn't ever get a harder working HC than CK.  But I think since his time at Oregon, that spread it out, fast paced O has long since been introduced to the SEC.  Just about everyone runs some form of it.  Even Saban started speeding things up the last couple of years.

I'm not sold on his persona and model working in this league. He is oil n water in the sec. Culturally. Think tater tot when it comes to recruiting and snooty nature when it comes to walking up into low income areas.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 17, 2017, 08:08:26 AM
I'm not sold on his persona and model working in this league. He is oil n water in the sec. Culturally. Think tater tot when it comes to recruiting and snooty nature when it comes to walking up into low income areas.
Good point.
But the strangest marriage to date has to be the good natured Richt at Miami. 
BTW I think Al Golden is a north-eastern guy like Chip. Abbrasive yankees? More than likely.   
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 17, 2017, 08:28:56 AM
My opinion?  The ONLY team in the SEC that Chip Kelly could succeed at is Florida.
Title: Re: 2017 Coaching Lottery
Post by: jmar on November 17, 2017, 08:33:01 AM
My opinion?  The ONLY team in the SEC that Chip Kelly could succeed at is Florida.
Concur!