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Title: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:49:10 PM
What are the odds against him?

https://youtu.be/93pa5xXD4RM
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:50:09 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:50:34 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:51:14 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:53:50 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:54:52 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:57:05 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:57:49 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:58:51 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 07, 2015, 11:59:57 PM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 08, 2015, 12:00:19 AM
There are so many more.





I love this guy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: DnATL on August 08, 2015, 07:18:46 AM
Honestly, there is one major problem for him, one glaringly obvious hindrance....
He's too damn smart for politics
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 08, 2015, 09:44:32 AM
We've never had a president whose mom wasn't white. It would be a first.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 08, 2015, 11:42:04 AM
I could give too shits what color he is. This country needs this kind of mind and character leading her for 8 years. I have never really got into politics and I'm sure there is tons of stuff that I don't know but everything that I hear Ben Carson say makes me really want this guy to be President.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 08, 2015, 11:42:25 AM
Honestly, there is one major problem for him, one glaringly obvious hindrance....
He's too damn smart for politics

Then there is that.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on August 10, 2015, 11:05:28 AM
I could give too shits what color he is. This country needs this kind of mind and character leading her for 8 years. I have never really got into politics and I'm sure there is tons of stuff that I don't know but everything that I hear Ben Carson say makes me really want this guy to be President.

Playing Devil's Advocate here, but experience could be his hinderance. Last citizen to become President was Eisenhower which worked out ok but he had also been a general in WW2 and knew a shit ton about policy (economics and structure) and foreign policy specifically. The odds for a normal citizen to go straight to the WH are very slim. Other than that, I think hes a great guy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 10, 2015, 11:28:13 AM
I want to try to say this in a tactful manner but it's not an easy subject to broach. Experience isn't the only thing. Smarts have a lot too do with the qualifications two.

I mean, I've heard Carson talk, and he talks pretty good English but how smart could he really be?

Let's face it. The guy is black, o.k. There I said it. Now, I'm not afraid of his being black but I don't know that he's actually smart enough to get the job did.

I mean, he's a alright guy but I don't think he's no brain surgeon or anything, so he would need to prove how smart he is to me.

Now Trump on the other hand. Wow! That dude is smart. He inherited his father's real estate empire and went bankrupt. But, he never moved out of a mansion. Still owed all of those people money and still riding in limousines! And he's gone through a few model wives and stuff. Had a hit TV program. "You're Fired!" I love that show! Now there's a smart guy. Those are real president qualifications. And he's white. But race isn't a factor anymore.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on August 10, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
I don't care what his qualifications are.  Don't care if he went to school, didn't, was a politician, wasn't one, is white, black, green or purple. 

He's outside the core group of candidates the media has decided are worthy of inclusion. 

Hillary (send us to hell in a flaming handbasket full of aborted gay fetuses) Clinton
Jeb (how many more of these kids are there?) Bush
Donald (I'm here to entertain myself) Trump

That's who they want to see. 

They'll give lip service to some of the others -- Walker included -- but they aren't going to get enough coverage to draw enough attention to make it. 

We are STUPID as a whole.  We have become a knee jerk society.  TV tells us we are interested in  women's soccer so people jizz all over themselves writing posts about it.  Few REALLY care.  Same with the Triple Crown, Bruce TransJenner, the Kardashians, Manny Paciao, and all this other bread and circus noise. 

The same herd that votes on American Idol and those other shows will watch TV, see what's being force-fed to them and make vacuous decisions based on nothing more than "that Clinton woman stood by her man and she make some damn funny faces..."   

This guy may be the answer.  May be the brightest guy out there.  But the brightest and best no longer go into politics.  Or teaching. 

With every passing day we become dumber and more poorly led. 

Barring a significant change -- like maybe all the TV satellites going offline for a decade or two -- the road to ruin is wide open. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 10, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but experience could be his hinderance. Last citizen to become President was Eisenhower which worked out ok but he had also been a general in WW2 and knew a shit ton about policy (economics and structure) and foreign policy specifically. The odds for a normal citizen to go straight to the WH are very slim. Other than that, I think hes a great guy.

Yes, I understand the odds are against him as it may seem. Like K said, the media has been leaning towards a select few. I watched a large amount of video on Carson and is the only one running that I can stomach to vote for. I would say however, Carson knowledge in the political world is not bad at all. When you have some free time, if any, do some watching. You may be surprisingly impressed.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 10, 2015, 12:34:03 PM
One thing that bothers me is this list of candidates in of itself. I see this disdain that others here have as well but I just have to add this. I mean, is this all we have? WTF. Republicans sure have been getting their shit together since Obama won office I can tell you that. This is why I can't seem to like anyone but Carson. Sure he may not win but I can't seem to stomach anyone else to vote for except for perhaps Rubio.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on August 10, 2015, 01:47:58 PM
I have his book. Im pretty well versed in how Carson ticks. Like I said, I like the guy a lot. He's the most likeable guy on the stage IMHO. And I don't doubt he can even become well versed on things that he may not know about right now. Thats what advisers are for. Reagan had a ton of good ones. Obama has a ton. Dont expect Foxnews to allow him to remotely get close though.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: chinook on August 10, 2015, 03:08:27 PM
I have his book. Im pretty well versed in how Carson ticks. Like I said, I like the guy a lot. He's the most likeable guy on the stage IMHO. And I don't doubt he can even become well versed on things that he may not know about right now. Thats what advisers are for. Reagan had a ton of good ones. Obama has a ton. Dont expect Foxnews to allow him to remotely get close though.

couldn't agree more...and you mentioned in another thread about being a citizen or just one of us. 

that's how I view him too. 

I can't imagine him making it much further. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 10, 2015, 03:13:39 PM
Dont expect Foxnews to allow him to remotely get close though.

I hope you are wrong here but I wouldn't doubt it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on August 10, 2015, 03:32:07 PM
I would not balk if he became president. Hell, I would easily vote for him.

Like he said, an intelligent person surrounds himself with intelligent people and learns quickly.

Its not like it is brain surgery.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 10, 2015, 03:56:52 PM
http://theiowarepublican.com/2015/carson-continues-to-impress-in-iowa/

 
Quote
Craig Robinson
Saturday, August 8th was supposed to be the day of the Iowa Straw Poll. It was supposed to be the day when the all the Republican candidates rolled out the red carpet in Boone for potential caucus goers in an attempt to display early organizational strength and popularity. The expo fields in Boone were empty, but there were still a few presidential candidates bopping around Iowa.

The Straw Poll may have been cancelled, but that didn’t stop Dr. Ben Carson’s campaign from creating festive campaign events in Cedar Rapids, Des Moines, and Council Bluffs this past weekend. In Des Moines, the Court Avenue Bridge was transformed into a family friendly festival that would rival anything that the campaigns used to do in Ames. It was packed, it was fun, and Carson benefitted.

Carson’s campaign event included a petting zoo, food venders, a video game truck, characters from Disney movies, and live music. A giant American Flag billowed outward behind the stage on which Carson spoke for nearly 40 minutes to a crowd of at least a 1,000 people. The street wasn’t just filled up with the familiar faces you expect to see at political events, these were families and potentially new people who may have never caucused before.

While the Carson campaign was smart to put on a series of fun, family friendly events like this, Dr. Carson’s message to the crowd was even better. Carson spent a lot of time talking about his childhood, specifically what a bad student he was. He shared stories about how all his classmates said that he was the biggest dummy at his school.

Carson recounted a time when he scored a zero on a math quiz. He told the story how he passed his paper to the person behind him to grade the quiz. He knew all the kids would laugh when the teacher would ask what his score was so he decided to mumble instead and hope for the best. The teacher heard nine instead of zero, and she praised him for his good score.

He told another childhood story about when the teacher held up a rock and asked the class what it was. Carson said he waited for the smart kids to raise their hands and answer. Then he waited the dumb kids to raise their hands, and no one did. Then Carson raised his hand. The teacher called on him with amazement. Carson answered, “obsidian.” His classmates would typically laugh, but they didn’t know whether “Benny” was right or wrong, so they didn’t react. Then Carson explained that the rock is the result of lava that is cooled rapidly like when it hits water.

Carson was explaining the turning point in his life. When asked how he knew that, he explained that he had read about it in a book. His teachers then said maybe you should read books about other subjects, which he did and he quickly went from being the worst student in his class all the way to the top.

Carson then challenged everyone at the Des Moines event to pledge to take at least a half hour every day and read about something you don’t know about. Carson then reminded his audience of Thomas Jefferson’s quote of how a democracy only works if there is a well-informed public. It was a fitting and smart message to deliver to family friendly event.

This event has to be one of the best campaign events that I have attended this calendar year. As I listened to Carson and observed the attendees on Saturday night, three things came to my mind.

Ben Carson is the antithesis to Donald Trump. Both Carson and Trump draw huge crowds, both are outsiders, and both have been wildly successful in their careers, but when it comes to demeanor and the type of people they are reaching, it couldn’t be more different. That’s a good space for Carson to occupy.
Carson already polls well in Iowa and across the nation, but I think it’s safe to say that the polls probably under-represent his actual support here in Iowa. His campaign events indicate that there is a lot of interest in his candidacy where ever he goes.
Carson’s message, while it’s not long on specifics, not only connects with people but it also inspires.
The Carson campaign doesn’t seem to get the same amount of news coverage as the other campaigns do. That is probably frustrating to his team, but running a presidential campaign under the radar isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

Carson is running a good campaign in Iowa. He’s been all over and drawn big crowds wherever he’s gone. If people think he’s a flash in the pan like Herman Cain was in 2012, they are wrong, and that’s probably just the wishful thinking of a competitor. Carson is in a good spot in Iowa, and there is little doubt that he will be a major factor in the caucuses next February.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on August 10, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
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Carson’s campaign event included a petting zoo, food venders, a video game truck, characters from Disney movies, and live music. A giant American Flag billowed outward behind the stage on which Carson spoke for nearly 40 minutes to a crowd of at least a 1,000 people. The street wasn’t just filled up with the familiar faces you expect to see at political events, these were families and potentially new people who may have never caucused before.


Yep.  I remember when Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglass were on the campaign trail.  Abe had gotten Mickey, Minnie and Donald Duck to come to his petting zoo.  Douglass had to settle for Jimmy Neutron and the squirrel from Over the Hedge at his pickle eating contest.  Lincoln won the day and the election, obviously. 

 :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: chinook on August 10, 2015, 05:40:15 PM
I would not balk if he became president. Hell, I would easily vote for him.

Like he said, an intelligent person surrounds himself with intelligent people and learns quickly.

Its not like it is brain surgery.

color me shocked.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: jmar on August 10, 2015, 06:30:28 PM
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but experience could be his hinderance. Last citizen to become President was Eisenhower which worked out ok but he had also been a general in WW2 and knew a shit ton about policy (economics and structure) and foreign policy specifically. The odds for a normal citizen to go straight to the WH are very slim. Other than that, I think hes a great guy.
It's not like he has to be fiscally responsible. Don't think any President has been in our lifetime.
Carson offers an alternative from the norm, that's all I was saying. Fiorina was just a thought seeing how she has honed in on Hillary. Hope she gets to hang around awhile.   
 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 11, 2015, 03:02:51 AM
https://video-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfp1/v/t42.1790-2/11835277_10153560950346336_1911074012_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=300&vabr=102&oh=18efd3b2774304896efb5b88e8f6f144&oe=55C9C752
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on August 11, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Not sure how true, but I heard on one of the talk shows that Carson is up to 3rd in most polls now post Debate. Like someone else said, it wouldnt bother me a bit if he won. He's a decent person with a shit ton of common sense. How is that any worse than what is up there now? Or what was there before him? Those two worked out so well for us.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 11, 2015, 01:27:48 PM
Not sure how true, but I heard on one of the talk shows that Carson is up to 3rd in most polls now post Debate. Like someone else said, it wouldnt bother me a bit if he won. He's a decent person with a shit ton of common sense. How is that any worse than what is up there now? Or what was there before him? Those two worked out so well for us.

Exactly. Not to mention he actually seems like he gives a shit about this country and not like the last few puppets. I'm tired of both the Republican and Democratic bs posers talking the same old shit. If he wins or not, I have already decided I will vote for Carson. The more Carson gets out there in the mainstream and the more people hear him, those ratings will continue to work in his favor.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on August 11, 2015, 03:09:06 PM
Exactly. Not to mention he actually seems like he gives a shit about this country and not like the last few puppets. I'm tired of both the Republican and Democratic bs posers talking the same old shit. If he wins or not, I have already decided I will vote for Carson. The more Carson gets out there in the mainstream and the more people hear him, those ratings will continue to work in his favor.

If you will notice the trend in who is doing well in the polls, its outsiders. People who are either: not polticians (Carson, Trump, hell even Carly is starting to surge), havent been a politican for long (Cruz), not Ivy League aristocrats from high (Walker, who is only High School educated which makes not two shits to me). All these people have the common theme of not being in the innercircle of the Washington DC establishment club..
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 12, 2015, 11:57:17 AM
https://video-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xtf1/v/t42.1790-2/11888444_914083748679222_8061994_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=300&vabr=158&oh=74746e35dd41a1d684fd19fd24c5be67&oe=55CB8E5B
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on August 12, 2015, 12:23:56 PM
The more I listen to Dr. Carson, the more I keep thinking about the old saying, "Walk softly and carry a big stick"!

No, WT! Not that...
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Catphish Tilly on August 12, 2015, 12:58:28 PM
My initial reaction during the debate was that Carson came off nervous and maybe out of his league. But after seeing more of his answers and learning more about him, I have to give him a lot of credit. I really like this guy. Someone may have already said it but, to me, he's an "outsider" only without the Trump-like meanness and namecalling that is unbecoming of a world leader, IMO. Whether he has a chance to stick around or not, I don't know. I do know that I hope he can and does.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 16, 2015, 09:18:43 PM
http://wapo.st/1zoDMww
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 16, 2015, 09:23:17 PM
https://video-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xtf1/v/t42.1790-2/11851738_513840982115706_829679197_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjcxNiwicmxhIjo2NzN9&rl=716&vabr=398&oh=05c55a963e175e21dfb54ae179ef564c&oe=55D158CF
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 17, 2015, 08:23:08 PM
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2015/08/17/ben-carson-phoenix-convention-center/31873229/
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 17, 2015, 08:26:15 PM
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/carson-stop-listening-these-people-who-tell-us-we-cannot-talk-about?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=marketing&utm_campaign=n-carson-god
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 18, 2015, 11:10:34 PM
I'm going to assume you have a Ben Carson Fathead in your bedroom. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: chityeah on August 19, 2015, 12:06:46 AM
I'm going to assume you have a Ben Carson Fathead in your bedroom.
Not the copy write one any whos>
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 19, 2015, 08:35:17 AM
I'm going to assume you have a Ben Carson Fathead in your bedroom.

No, but I might just get the Ben for Prez! tattoo.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 23, 2015, 08:43:45 PM
https://youtu.be/TV3c87if5U4
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on August 28, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
I like Ben, but I am getting concerned with the whole "save the children" bit.

Some of the dumbest things in American politics have been done "For the children".
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: jmar on August 28, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
I like Ben, but I am getting concerned with the whole "save the children" bit.

Some of the dumbest things in American politics have been done "For the children".
Nothing wrong with Ben whatsoever...he just can't win.

Fuck it! Jesus would want Carson to win but he just can't possibly last.
Who can?   
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on August 29, 2015, 12:06:07 PM
I like Ben, but I am getting concerned with the whole "save the children" bit.

Some of the dumbest things in American politics have been done "For the children".

Its very early man.

You pick your issues and locations very timely, and strategically.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 29, 2015, 02:06:54 PM
Who do you think Simp likes in this race?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 29, 2015, 02:09:05 PM
Who do you think Simp likes in this race?

I'm voting for you.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 29, 2015, 02:13:54 PM
I'm voting for you.

Get in line. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on August 29, 2015, 02:42:13 PM
Get in line.

We need to know your campaign slogan first. This is very important to know. We don't care about any of the other stuff, except......can we make marijuana legal?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 29, 2015, 04:33:43 PM
The campaign slogan will be "Let's put the balls back in America".
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Saniflush on August 31, 2015, 09:03:32 AM
Dude if people could not get on board with my "you need to unfuck yourselves" campaign of a few years back yours stands very little chance of success.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 03, 2015, 02:46:05 PM
Looks like many agree on the Carson for Prez campaign. He currently sits second to Trump and tied with trump in Iowa.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/politics/rupert-murdoch-tweets-ben-carson/index.html
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: jmar on September 03, 2015, 05:40:18 PM
Looks like many agree on the Carson for Prez campaign. He currently sits second to Trump and tied with trump in Iowa.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/politics/rupert-murdoch-tweets-ben-carson/index.html
Really like the way he thinks even though he is almost too soft spoken. Don't know much about Seventh Day Adventists but it could be made into an issue by detractors. When questioned, I like his response that this isn't about religion.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 03, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
Really like the way he thinks even though he is almost too soft spoken. Don't know much about Seventh Day Adventists but it could be made into an issue by detractors. When questioned, I like his response that this isn't about religion.

You know, that is the one concern I do have too. He is soft spoken which may be seen as a weakness in people's minds.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: jmar on September 03, 2015, 06:15:42 PM
You know, that is the one concern I do have too. He is soft spoken which may be seen as a weakness in people's minds.
I fucking hate it that most people tend to side with those who repeat it the most and shout the loudest but that's the America we've made.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 04, 2015, 07:50:22 AM
Really like the way he thinks even though he is almost too soft spoken. Don't know much about Seventh Day Adventists but it could be made into an issue by detractors. When questioned, I like his response that this isn't about religion.

Religion shouldn't be an issue for people, especially those who consider themselves Republicans....since they shout the most about freedom of Religion at every waking blink. I can give you just as many concerns about other denominations as SDA if I really wanted to. In the end though, it shouldn't be a concern.

I read something earlier this week that said between Trump, Carson and Carly - they had 57% together in one major poll. Thats almost 6 in 10 people who favor someone who hasn't held office. Combine that together with Cruz and Walker (who by most are considered outsiders even though Cruz is a sitting Senator) drawing another 16-18% combined, you are talking about 75% of those polled want someone considered an outsider, or the non-status quo. The other 13 candidates combine for 25-28%, with a bulk of that being Jeb and Christie. That is extremely telling.


Advantage - Outsiders. Disadvantage - Establishment. Karl Rove and Roger Ailes must be shitting their pants.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 10, 2015, 03:07:19 PM
This guy apparently made this specifically for Ben Carson.

https://soundcloud.com/aspiringmogul-1/black-republican?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on September 10, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
Really like the way he thinks even though he is almost too soft spoken. Don't know much about Seventh Day Adventists but it could be made into an issue by detractors. When questioned, I like his response that this isn't about religion.

Are they the ones that ride bicycles and wear Men In Black suits when they come to my house? 

They asked me one time if i would hear their message.  I told them as long as they heard mine first. 

They were not interested in the theory of vagina worship. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 10, 2015, 10:33:59 PM
Are they the ones that ride bicycles and wear Men In Black suits when they come to my house? 

They asked me one time if i would hear their message.  I told them as long as they heard mine first. 

They were not interested in the theory of vagina worship.

Well, that only works for 3 weeks out of the month, then lord vaginal turns into a bloody massacre.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 11, 2015, 07:50:47 AM
Are they the ones that ride bicycles and wear Men In Black suits when they come to my house? 

They asked me one time if i would hear their message.  I told them as long as they heard mine first. 

They were not interested in the theory of vagina worship.

Those are Mormons. Jevovahs Witness also goes door to door but they just drive mailbox to mailbox and all get out of a car and ambush you. I've never known SDA to do that.

I did hear Ben getting a little self righteous about his faith couple of nights ago which wasn't cool. Basically saying it's what made him different from others in the race - that he really did believe in God and has never turned his back on it....as opposed to others in the race. Yeah not cool dude. Talk about other stuff. His poo poo'ing on any meaningful illegal immigration dialogue was also a turn off which leads me to believe he is in some favor of amnesty.

Aside from those 2 things I still think he's pretty solid. He needs to remember what got him to where he's at in the polls.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 11, 2015, 09:06:06 AM
Those are Mormons. Jevovahs Witness also goes door to door but they just drive mailbox to mailbox and all get out of a car and ambush you. I've never known SDA to do that.

I did hear Ben getting a little self righteous about his faith couple of nights ago which wasn't cool. Basically saying it's what made him different from others in the race - that he really did believe in God and has never turned his back on it....as opposed to others in the race. Yeah not cool dude. Talk about other stuff. His poo poo'ing on any meaningful illegal immigration dialogue was also a turn off which leads me to believe he is in some favor of amnesty.

Aside from those 2 things I still think he's pretty solid. He needs to remember what got him to where he's at in the polls.

Agreed, especially on his faith. I have a feeling the wife set him straight once he got home or at least I hope. That is the sort of thing you let be seen in your message or your actions and not by saying ones faith is greater than someone else's.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 11, 2015, 10:29:18 AM
Those are Mormons. Jevovahs Witness also goes door to door but they just drive mailbox to mailbox and all get out of a car and ambush you. I've never known SDA to do that.


I bought a mountain bike off Craigslist a few weeks ago. Go to meet the seller and found two Mormon missionaries waiting for me. The seller was getting rid of it to travel back home to Jamaica.

High mileage bike but I got a great deal.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 11, 2015, 10:50:14 AM
Religion shouldn't be an issue for people, especially those who consider themselves Republicans....since they shout the most about freedom of Religion at every waking blink. I can give you just as many concerns about other denominations as SDA if I really wanted to. In the end though, it shouldn't be a concern.

I read something earlier this week that said between Trump, Carson and Carly - they had 57% together in one major poll. Thats almost 6 in 10 people who favor someone who hasn't held office. Combine that together with Cruz and Walker (who by most are considered outsiders even though Cruz is a sitting Senator) drawing another 16-18% combined, you are talking about 75% of those polled want someone considered an outsider, or the non-status quo. The other 13 candidates combine for 25-28%, with a bulk of that being Jeb and Christie. That is extremely telling.


Advantage - Outsiders. Disadvantage - Establishment. Karl Rove and Roger Ailes must be shitting their pants.
I believe that this country was founded by mostly Christian folks. I'm a Christian but I'm looking for the person who I think will do this best job.

I don't think I would have a problem with most religions or an atheist if he/she seems like the best candidate. However, I must say that I would be a little skeptical of a voo doo dr. or even a muslim.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on September 11, 2015, 10:53:29 AM
or even a muslim.

(http://s3-origin-images.politico.com/news/090515_obama87_ap_297.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 11, 2015, 11:30:35 AM
(http://s3-origin-images.politico.com/news/090515_obama87_ap_297.jpg)
There's no evidence that Barrack Hussein Obama has any Muslim ties, is there?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 11, 2015, 01:52:55 PM
There's no evidence that Barrack Hussein Obama has any Muslim ties, is there?

Not at all....

(http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/obama-muslim-clothes.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 16, 2015, 11:01:30 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politics/ben-carson-donald-trump-poll-new-hampshire/index.html
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 16, 2015, 11:20:50 AM
2 guys who have never held office who speak boldly without political correctness....now have between 51-58% of the vote in most polls. Think on that. And it just seems to be going higher.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 16, 2015, 11:26:37 AM
2 guys who have never held office who speak boldly without political correctness....now have between 51-58% of the vote in most polls. Think on that. And it just seems to be going higher.

Part of me is surprised but then, like you said I believe, this is just proof of how America is tired of the same old political bullshit and ready for someone who is actually smart and who actually seems to give a damn.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 11:28:26 AM
Part of me is surprised but then, like you said I believe, this is just proof of how America is tired of the same old political bullshit and ready for someone who is actually smart and who actually seems to give a damn.

Boom!!!
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on September 17, 2015, 11:22:35 PM
Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice and states that the reason they believe it to be is because straight people go in to Prison and they choose to be gay...described marriage equality supporters as being an enemy to America, compares homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality...is a fuckin moron.

That's Ben Carson.

I'm voting for Bernie Mother Fuckin Sanders
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on September 18, 2015, 07:24:32 AM
Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice and states that the reason they believe it to be is because straight people go in to Prison and they choose to be gay...described marriage equality supporters as being an enemy to America, compares homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality...is a fuckin moron.

That's Ben Carson.

I'm voting for Bernie Mother Fuckin Sanders

He's a communist.  And a froot loop.  And a wasted vote. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 18, 2015, 08:22:53 AM
Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice and states that the reason they believe it to be is because straight people go in to Prison and they choose to be gay...described marriage equality supporters as being an enemy to America, compares homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality...is a fuckin moron.

That's Ben Carson.

I'm voting for Bernie Mother Fuckin Sanders

And anyone who bases their entire vote off someone's opinion of that subject matter over the many more important things that actually make the country run is a fucking moron. But hey Bernie is using the "give people free shit paid for by others and they'll vote for me" strategy. And it will work on a certain portion of the electorate. The same portion that would have rallied for the Bolsheviks and Lenin in the early 20th century. Have fun with that dude. The human race always repeats it's same mistakes.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 18, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice and states that the reason they believe it to be is because straight people go in to Prison and they choose to be gay...described marriage equality supporters as being an enemy to America, compares homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality...is a fudgein moron.

That's Ben Carson.

I'm voting for Bernie Mother fudgein Sanders

No offense P. But there's a reason you're an emoji on a message board.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on September 18, 2015, 09:23:33 AM
Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice and states that the reason they believe it to be is because straight people go in to Prison and they choose to be gay...described marriage equality supporters as being an enemy to America, compares homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality...is a fuckin moron.

That's Ben Carson.

I'm voting for Bernie Mother Fuckin Sanders

Did you just say that out loud......
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 18, 2015, 10:41:14 AM
No offense P. But there's a reason you're an emoji on a message board.
*snicker*
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 18, 2015, 10:41:35 AM
Did you just say that out loud......

Real "tolerant" aint he? Irony.

And to call the guy a fucking moron? Serious?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on September 18, 2015, 11:07:57 AM
Anyone that believes homosexuality is a choice and states that the reason they believe it to be is because straight people go in to Prison and they choose to be gay...described marriage equality supporters as being an enemy to America, compares homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality...is a fuckin moron.

That's Ben Carson.

I'm voting for Bernie Mother Fuckin Sanders

If homosexuality is not a choice, please explain why one identical twin can be gay and one can be straight?  They are born with IDENTICAL DNA so they should BOTH be gay, correct?

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 18, 2015, 11:21:38 AM
If homosexuality is not a choice, please explain why one identical twin can be gay and one can be straight?  They are born with IDENTICAL DNA so they should BOTH be gay, correct?

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic


Butt sex in a pussy? 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 18, 2015, 11:24:52 AM
I guess Prowler got the crowd going. I'm not getting into this whole homo-sexuality debate but I can tell you that based on who is in the White House now and who is running for president, someone with faith based beliefs is the least of ones concerns. Besides we're talking about a retired neurosurgeon here not Joe Blow off the streets.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 18, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
I guess Prowler got the crowd going. I'm not getting into this whole homo-sexuality debate but I can tell you that based on who is in the White House now and who is running for president, someone with faith based beliefs is the least of ones concerns. Besides we're talking about a retired neurosurgeon here not Joe Blow off the streets.


Joe Blow?  There you go talking about the gheys again.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 18, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

Joe Blow?  There you go talking about the gheys again.

He has to make a living somehow.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 18, 2015, 01:00:40 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-carson-edges-trump-as-most-likely-to-win-gop-nomination/article/2572402#.VfwudGdqqMU.twitter

Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 18, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
I know that I'm probably voting for the repub nominee regardless in a pres election so I don't get too worked up in primaries. Been disappointed too many times.

Having said that, I really like Carson a lot. He's my fav right now. I actually like Huckabee, Christie and Paul.

Not crazy about the chick who ran two companies into the ground, Bush or Trump. Actually can't stand Trump. Agree with him on a lot of things but I think he's not our guy. Too full of himself for me and a better dictator than leader.

Might actually follow Prowler and vote for Bernie over Trump, which means I must loathe the guy. I think I really do.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 18, 2015, 04:24:09 PM
I know that I'm probably voting for the repub nominee regardless in a pres election so I don't get too worked up in primaries. Been disappointed too many times.

Having said that, I really like Carson a lot. He's my fav right now. I actually like Huckabee, Christie and Paul.

Not crazy about the chick who ran two companies into the ground, Bush or Trump. Actually can't stand Trump. Agree with him on a lot of things but I think he's not our guy. Too full of himself for me and a better dictator than leader.
Might actually follow Prowler and vote for Bernie over Trump, which means I must loathe the guy. I think I really do.


We already have one of these now.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on September 18, 2015, 09:37:59 PM
Real "tolerant" aint he? Irony.

And to call the guy a fucking moron? Serious?
Yes, serious. He is a fucking hypocritical moron. What's really hilarious about the Republican party, Toupee Trump is the leading candidate. AAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
If he wins the Republican side...y'all have no one to blame but yourselves.

Yup, I called him a hypocrite too, just in case you were wondering if I was being serious.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on September 19, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
...y'all have no one to blame but yourselves.

Y'all?

Well hell boy. Go ahead and vote for the commie. Maybe he'll give you some free shit.

Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 19, 2015, 12:47:34 AM
Y'all?

Well hell boy. Go ahead and vote for the commie. Maybe he'll give you some free shit.

Ain't nothing free but an assholes opinion in this society.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 21, 2015, 12:19:04 PM
http://www.westernjournalism.com/ben-carsons-comment-about-muslims-has-many-calling-for-him-to-withdraw-his-response/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-21

Quote
Some Calling For Him To Withdraw- His Response…

On NBC's "Meet the Press", Chuck Todd asked Dr. Carson, "Should a President’s faith matter?"

Jack Davis September 21, 2015 at 8:24am

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson believes America’s president must embrace America’s values.

His campaign said that is the bottom line of comments that Carson made Sunday regarding Islam’s incompatibility with the Constitution, as well as his belief that America should not have a Muslim president.

“Dr. Carson is a strict adherent to the First Amendment — freedom of religion. That includes people of all faith,” said Carson campaign spokesman Doug Watts. “He has great respect for the Muslim community, but there is a huge gulf between the faith and practice of the Muslim faith, and our Constitution and American values.”

On NBC’s “Meet the Press”, Chuck Todd asked Dr. Carson, “Should a President’s faith matter?”

“If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the Constitution, no problem,” he explained.

When asked if he thought Islam is consistent with the Constitution, Carson said, “No, I don’t, I do not.”

“I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that,” Carson added.

Carson’s spokesman said the exchange made it clear Carson would not bar a Muslim from running.

“If there’s somebody who’s of any faith, but they say things, and their life has been consistent with things that will elevate this nation and make it possible for everybody to succeed, and bring peace and harmony, then I’m with them,” said Carson, who from the start of his campaign has made a clear link between his faith and the policies he would enact as president.

Vox commented, “This is the broader context for Carson’s remarks: many grassroots Republicans see Islam as not just suspicious but a clear and present danger to America, and think the media and the political establishment are too bound by political correctness to admit it — much less fight it.”

Carson has noted that religious toleration is a hallmark of his life.

“As a Christian, I am not the least bit offended by the beliefs of Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Mormons and so forth. In fact, I am delighted to know that they believe in something that is more likely to make them into a reasonable human being, as long as they don’t allow the religion to be distorted by those seeking power and wealth,” he wrote in his book America the Beautiful in 2012.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 21, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
Yes, serious. He is a fucking hypocritical moron. What's really hilarious about the Republican party, Toupee Trump is the leading candidate. AAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
If he wins the Republican side...y'all have no one to blame but yourselves.

Yup, I called him a hypocrite too, just in case you were wondering if I was being serious.

So the neurosurgeon has a below avg IQ?

There is no yall as I am a registered Independent. Trump will not win the nomination. I don't hate him, but he won't win. He is resonating with a lot of people because he is saying things most people only think. Simply put. Doesn't mean he is the best to lead. Just that he is touching on some things people wanna hear.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 21, 2015, 10:14:28 PM
http://www.westernjournalism.com/liberal-outrage-over-ben-carsons-muslim-comments-just-backfired-in-a-big-way/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-21
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on September 22, 2015, 08:11:42 AM
http://www.westernjournalism.com/liberal-outrage-over-ben-carsons-muslim-comments-just-backfired-in-a-big-way/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-21

I know what he meant...but I wouldn't have said it in this PC/Sensationalizing Media era. Most radical followers of Islam believe in muslim law (Sharia) which does indeed conflict with the laws of this country. Not sure why that is such a big deal. But it's gonna hurt him because the media is gonna will it to happen.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on September 22, 2015, 08:14:26 AM
http://www.westernjournalism.com/liberal-outrage-over-ben-carsons-muslim-comments-just-backfired-in-a-big-way/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-21

That link put me on a watchlist.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 22, 2015, 08:52:11 AM
I know what he meant...but I wouldn't have said it in this PC/Sensationalizing Media era. Most radical followers of Islam believe in muslim law (Sharia) which does indeed conflict with the laws of this country. Not sure why that is such a big deal. But it's gonna hurt him because the media is gonna will it to happen.

Well he sure put himself out there for sure and for a few days the media and Muslim folks were all over. Funny thing is, the media's attention to it has increase his following and donations by a whole lot.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on September 22, 2015, 10:04:14 AM
Well he sure put himself out there for sure and for a few days the media and Muslim folks were all over. Funny thing is, the media's attention to it has increase his following and donations by a whole lot.

He's taking a play out of Trump's playbook. Except he's a bit more subtle about it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on September 23, 2015, 03:58:07 PM
https://youtu.be/YPqq6fr2CF4


Definitely not a moron...
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 23, 2015, 04:27:26 PM
https://youtu.be/YPqq6fr2CF4


Definitely not a moron...

Not real sure sarcasm was intended here, but this was pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on September 23, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ben-carson-argued-evolution-was-encouraged-satan?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Quote
Ben Carson said the big bang theory was part of the “fairy tales” pushed by “high-faluting scientists” as a story of creation.

Similarly, Carson, a noted creationist, said he believed the theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

#Facepalm
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 25, 2015, 09:57:02 AM
Imagine that, prominent Muslims agreeing with Carson.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/prominent-muslim-says-the-last-thing-anyone-expected-about-ben-carsons-muslim-comments/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-24
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on September 25, 2015, 10:30:28 AM
Imagine that, prominent Muslims agreeing with Carson.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/prominent-muslim-says-the-last-thing-anyone-expected-about-ben-carsons-muslim-comments/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-24 (http://www.westernjournalism.com/prominent-muslim-says-the-last-thing-anyone-expected-about-ben-carsons-muslim-comments/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-24)

Pfft. He's just an Uncle Achmed!
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on September 25, 2015, 10:36:58 AM
Pfft. He's just an Uncle Achmed!

His islam status has now been revoked.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 25, 2015, 11:04:27 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ben-carson-argued-evolution-was-encouraged-satan?cid=sm_fb_maddow

#Facepalm
https://youtu.be/pu7bPjMBbOI
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 12, 2015, 09:06:48 AM
http://www.westernjournalism.com/big-muslim-group-demanded-ben-carson-withdraw-he-just-made-that-backfire-in-a-huge-way/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-10-12&utm_campaign=manualpost


Just a short little article but interesting. I have to give it to Ben, he aint skeered.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 19, 2015, 10:03:45 PM
Ben Carson makes a fool out of himself while answering questions and trying to stay awake (note: I've never seen someone talk so much with their eyes closed) (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/19/george-stephanopoulos-makes-a-fool-out-of-ben-carson-without-even-trying-video/)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 19, 2015, 10:16:06 PM
Ben Carson makes a fool out of himself while answering questions and trying to stay awake (note: I've never seen someone talk so much with their eyes closed) (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/19/george-stephanopoulos-makes-a-fool-out-of-ben-carson-without-even-trying-video/)
This is not exactly the Miss South Carolina response you had me waiting for. Not a great interview but I wouldn't exactly say that he made a fool of himself.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 19, 2015, 11:25:05 PM
This is not exactly the Miss South Carolina response you had me waiting for. Not a great interview but I wouldn't exactly say that he made a fool of himself.

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, uh, people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, theIraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future..."

"Um, yeah, *slow blink* I feel like that in my *slow blink* very own personal opinion education is like *slow blink* such as Afghanistan and America and therefore *slow blink* and so forth, nevertheless the ramifications *slow blink* considerably more cooperative with liberty and *slow blink* and justice for all."
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 20, 2015, 04:53:54 AM
http://youtu.be/I9qKTLljxE4

This guy is running neck and neck against Toupee Trump on the Republican side? ....AAAGGGHHHAHAHAHA what a fuckin moron. I'm starting to think he's doing this just for his and his wife's book deals.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 20, 2015, 08:34:49 AM
http://youtu.be/I9qKTLljxE4

This guy is running neck and neck against Toupee Trump on the Republican side? ....AAAGGGHHHAHAHAHA what a fuckin moron. I'm starting to think he's doing this just for his and his wife's book deals.

And lets see, who is running on the Dem side? Ok, thank you. Ben Carsons morning shit has more common sense then any of those Democratic bozos running for President.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on October 20, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
We get it dude. You don't like the black guy. You like old crusty white guy aka Santa Claus Sanders. Youre a racist. We get it.

You are a classic case of forming convenient rhetorical "facts" around your opinion, rather than forming your opinon around the real facts.

You do realize that a differing opinion on how we are here, or why someone is gay, or what religion you like or dislike - has almost ZERO effect on how well the country will do with that person being in charge dont you? Carson doesn't personally like the idea of being gay. So what? The Supreme Court did their thing on that regardless. If Barry O. had been against gayness too, it wouldn't have mattered either. Thats how the system is setup. Its also why W's defense of marriage act was never deemed Constitutional. What does matter is numbers, jobs, foreign policy, monetary policy, inflation, leadership, etc etc...not a campaign of: billionaires are bad, the koch brothers are evil, corporations need to be abolished, i want to play robinhood and give everything to everyone for free blah blah blah....

You drink all this Bernie kool aid and rhetoric if you wish, but if you do you are part of what is wrong. You are choosing to gloss over the 2 dozen or so idiotic things that guy has said and stands for that make NO SENSE, while dialing in on 1 or 2 personal opinions and mannerisms of another guy you don't like that have such a low % chance of actually making it into policy documents. Thats ideology at its finest, and that makes you part of the problem. And people like Bernie target people just like yourself in the form of class warfare and fiery rhetoric that has NOTHING behind it. Its populism run amock into pandering. And all you are going to get in the end is massive amounts of debt ala Greece now and the Soviet Union (in the 90's), and a society that is dependent on themselves for nothing, and the man for everything. Facts be damned though dude. But go ahead and keep focusing on him closing his eyes (he has an eye condition) and Trump's hair (he was born with it, sue him). The country will go far basing their decisions off those two things.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on October 20, 2015, 08:57:57 AM
And lets see, who is running on the Dem side? Ok, thank you. Ben Carsons morning shit has more common sense then any of those Democratic bozos running for President.

To paraphrase our friend Charles Barkley and apply it to this:

"Prowler calling Trump and Carson 'idiots' is like Snooki calling Halle Barry ugly".

And Im not saying Carson or Trump or anyone else running is perfect or flawless. What I am saying is there is a hypocrisy is focusing on stupid shit like eyes, hair and what they think about the universe as your criticisms while conveniently glossing over others' real flaws.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 20, 2015, 10:21:15 AM
We get it dude. You don't like the black guy. You like old crusty white guy aka Santa Claus Sanders. Youre a racist. We get it.

You are a classic case of forming convenient rhetorical "facts" around your opinion, rather than forming your opinon around the real facts.

You do realize that a differing opinion on how we are here, or why someone is gay, or what religion you like or dislike - has almost ZERO effect on how well the country will do with that person being in charge dont you? Carson doesn't personally like the idea of being gay. So what? The Supreme Court did their thing on that regardless. If Barry O. had been against gayness too, it wouldn't have mattered either. Thats how the system is setup. Its also why W's defense of marriage act was never deemed Constitutional. What does matter is numbers, jobs, foreign policy, monetary policy, inflation, leadership, etc etc...not a campaign of: billionaires are bad, the koch brothers are evil, corporations need to be abolished, i want to play robinhood and give everything to everyone for free blah blah blah....

You drink all this Bernie kool aid and rhetoric if you wish, but if you do you are part of what is wrong. You are choosing to gloss over the 2 dozen or so idiotic things that guy has said and stands for that make NO SENSE, while dialing in on 1 or 2 personal opinions and mannerisms of another guy you don't like that have such a low % chance of actually making it into policy documents. Thats ideology at its finest, and that makes you part of the problem. And people like Bernie target people just like yourself in the form of class warfare and fiery rhetoric that has NOTHING behind it. Its populism run amock into pandering. And all you are going to get in the end is massive amounts of debt ala Greece now and the Soviet Union (in the 90's), and a society that is dependent on themselves for nothing, and the man for everything. Facts be damned though dude. But go ahead and keep focusing on him closing his eyes (he has an eye condition) and Trump's hair (he was born with it, sue him). The country will go far basing their decisions off those two things.
^^This. Dude, you keep posting like this, I'm going to nominate you for membership in my Mensa club.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 20, 2015, 10:56:26 AM
To paraphrase our friend Charles Barkley and apply it to this:

"Prowler calling Trump and Carson 'idiots' is like Snooki calling Halle Barry ugly".

And Im not saying Carson or Trump or anyone else running is perfect or flawless. What I am saying is there is a hypocrisy is focusing on stupid shit like eyes, hair and what they think about the universe as your criticisms while conveniently glossing over others' real flaws.

Hey, I have an idea, lets find the coolest guy in the running and vote for him.

Oh, and by the way Prowler, in case you don't remember world history, a socialist is what you call Bernie. Matter of fact, thats what you call Hillary also. I guess we should ask Russia if we can hook up. At least our President will be wearing the latest fashion.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on October 20, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
Hey, I have an idea, lets find the coolest guy in the running and vote for him.

Oh, and by the way Prowler, in case you don't remember world history, a socialist is what you call Bernie. Matter of fact, thats what you call Hillary also. I guess we should ask Russia if we can hook up. At least our President will be wearing the latest fashion.

Yes, but they know he is. Socialism is cool now bro. They are convinced of it. We need to be more like Denmark. Keep up hoss. Bread lines in Greece and Russia, and healthcare rationing in Venezuela and the UK are small tidbits. Don't let them discourage you.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 20, 2015, 02:39:53 PM
Yes, but they know he is. Socialism is cool now bro. They are convinced of it. We need to be more like Denmark. Keep up hoss. Bread lines in Greece and Russia, and healthcare rationing in Venezuela and the UK are small tidbits. Don't let them discourage you.

One world government in the making.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 20, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Republicans calling someone who will vote Democrat, this time around, "racist" is fuckin hilarious. Also, pointing out that Carson is a hypocrite and a moron isn't just a personal opinion, it's a known fact. Quick question, who here would vote for Sarah Palin if she won the Republican primary (let's just say all the other candidates dropped out for some reason and she was the only one left standing)?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 20, 2015, 05:30:47 PM
Republicans calling someone who will vote Democrat, this time around, "racist" is fuckin hilarious. Also, pointing out that Carson is a hypocrite and a moron isn't just a personal opinion, it's a known fact. Quick question, who here would vote for Sarah Palin if she won the Republican primary (let's just say all the other candidates dropped out for some reason and she was the only one left standing)?

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 20, 2015, 08:37:42 PM
:facepalm:
Exactly, some here are disappointing.

Just so everyone here knows, I'm going to vote on the best candidate, I don't care what party they're in. Trump? Give me a fuckin break, I don't like slimy shitheads and he is the king of those type of people. Hillary? Fuck no, she's a goddamn psycho. If those two are the only choices, I'm moving to Canada. Ben Carson? He's definitely smart, book smart with some walking around sense, but as for running the Country? I'd take George W Bush over Carson (I didn't care much for W). Bernie Sanders? He's one of the only ones that has mapped out what he plans to do and it not sound like it'll triple the debt we're already in and he's the only one that I feel that can run this Country, because for one, he has a very good head on his shoulders, better than the other candidates.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 20, 2015, 08:49:36 PM
If Bernie the commie is elected, I'LL move to Canada.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 20, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
If Bernie the commie is elected, I'LL move to Canada.

Why Canada.  They just went total lib.  Come on mon, less move to dee islands.  St. Croix.  Jamaica.  St. Maarten. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 20, 2015, 10:19:08 PM
Why Canada.  They just went total lib.  Come on mon, less move to dee islands.  St. Croix.  Jamaica.  St. Maarten.

Rasta mon
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 20, 2015, 10:21:12 PM
Why Canada.  They just went total lib.  Come on mon, less move to dee islands.  St. Croix.  Jamaica.  St. Maarten.
I'm skeert of hurricanes.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUTiger1 on October 21, 2015, 12:16:57 AM
Bernie won't triple the debt....... :rofl:
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on October 21, 2015, 08:56:40 AM
Bernie won't triple the debt....... :rofl:

18 trillion over 8 years is the estimate.

But keep going Prowler - you are on a role man. Bernie is Santa Claus who is playing with theoretical monopoly money to try and buy people's votes. "Vote for me and I'll give you shit" is not a viable platform...not sure how you aren't getting that.

People who vote based off feeling like yourself, I doubt even understand the concept of a national debt, or a yearly deficit, or inflation/printing money with "quantitative easing". If you think GWB is a smarter or better leader/person in general than Trump or Carson, then you have been on the bong too long. Yes Trump is an ass, and Carson can be vanilla - but either being lesser than GWB? Thats hilarious. GWB kept us so safe that 9-11 still happened. Got it Jeb!

You dont become a Neurosurgeon Chief at Johns Hopkins with your origins being in the Detroit ghetto by having nothing underneath you. You don't become a Billionaire either by having no spine or brain. Whether you personally like them or not, they are not stupid men. Whether you know it or not, you are one of the "useful masses of people" they refer to in their (socalists) tennants. See Stalin and Saul Alinsky if you need clarification.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 21, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
I'm skeert of hurricanes.

You can take a flight out long before it gets there.  I'll take that over months and months and months of snow and ice. Eh?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 21, 2015, 11:00:58 AM
I'm skeert of hurricanes.
You'll be too high to notice when the winds pick up a little. Probably think it cool, even.

"Wow man! Let's fly a picnic table!"
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 21, 2015, 12:19:50 PM
BTW, just saw where Biden announced he's not going to run. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on October 21, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
BTW, just saw where Biden announced he's not going to run.

As dumb as he is, he's way too nice a guy to be with the likes of Hillary and Burn-eeee. I do believe he and even Barry O are both slightly right of where their nomination base sits at the moment. Which is telling.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: RottenBottom on October 21, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
Why Canada.  They just went total lib.  Come on mon, less move to dee islands.  St. Croix.  Jamaica.  St. Maarten.
Didn't Cuba just open relations again? Could go there.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 21, 2015, 11:45:41 PM
18 trillion over 8 years is the estimate.

But keep going Prowler - you are on a role man. Bernie is Santa Claus who is playing with theoretical monopoly money to try and buy people's votes. "Vote for me and I'll give you shit" is not a viable platform...not sure how you aren't getting that.

People who vote based off feeling like yourself, I doubt even understand the concept of a national debt, or a yearly deficit, or inflation/printing money with "quantitative easing". If you think GWB is a smarter or better leader/person in general than Trump or Carson, then you have been on the bong too long. Yes Trump is an ass, and Carson can be vanilla - but either being lesser than GWB? Thats hilarious. GWB kept us so safe that 9-11 still happened. Got it Jeb!

You dont become a Neurosurgeon Chief at Johns Hopkins with your origins being in the Detroit ghetto by having nothing underneath you. You don't become a Billionaire either by having no spine or brain. Whether you personally like them or not, they are not stupid men. Whether you know it or not, you are one of the "useful masses of people" they refer to in their (socalists) tennants. See Stalin and Saul Alinsky if you need clarification.
Carson can thank the government for helping him get there, you know, the same programs that he's wanting to shut down. As for Toupee, it helps to be born into money...Also helps to have his clothing companies making items for pennies in China, you know, the same Country that he keeps blabbing about taking our jobs...but hey, keep listening to Fox News, they'll shoot ya straight... ...
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 22, 2015, 09:40:41 AM
Didn't Cuba just open relations again? Could go there.
They need gay marriage to be legal in their destination paradise. I think Cuba may still execute them.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: jmar on October 22, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
They need gay marriage to be legal in their destination paradise. I think Cuba may still execute them.
Maybe the gays in Cuba "choose" to be gay in the privacy of their bungalows... like straight Muricans.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: DnATL on October 31, 2015, 09:31:30 AM
Maybe the gays in Cuba "choose" to be gay in the privacy of their bungalows... like straight Muricans.
Imma straight Murican and I don't get no kind of gay with my privates in no bungholes
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: jmar on October 31, 2015, 10:03:47 AM
Imma straight Murican and I don't get no kind of gay with my privates in no bungholes
Proud for ya.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on October 31, 2015, 11:43:12 AM
Carson can thank the government for helping him get there, you know, the same programs that he's wanting to shut down. As for Toupee, it helps to be born into money...Also helps to have his clothing companies making items for pennies in China, you know, the same Country that he keeps blabbing about taking our jobs...but hey, keep listening to Fox News, they'll shoot ya straight... ...

This, coupled with your affinity to even listen to a communist candidate makes you the biggest idiot I have encountered in a while. You have no clue how business or the economy works. Do you even have a job?

Carson is easily smart enough to run this country. Trump understands business. Only a dumbass CEO would not use offshore resources in this hostile business climate we have in the US. You may as well vote dem, you have that mindset.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on October 31, 2015, 04:45:05 PM
This, coupled with your affinity to even listen to a communist candidate makes you the biggest idiot I have encountered in a while. You have no clue how business or the economy works. Do you even have a job?

Carson is easily smart enough to run this country. Trump understands business. Only a dumbass CEO would not use offshore resources in this hostile business climate we have in the US. You may as well vote dem, you have that mindset.
The "communist candidate" is the best one for the Country, it is what it is. The more Carson talks...I'm now starting to doubt his intelligence. As for Toupee, filing Chapter 11 on four of his business to wipe away their debt owed to banks, employees and suppliers is not someone I'd trust to run the Country. If you think those two candidates would be better for this Country than Bernie Sanders, someone who has held a public office for 34 years...then you are among the people that shouldn't be allowed to walk around without a helmet.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on October 31, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
The "communist candidate" is the best one for the Country, it is what it is. The more Carson talks...I'm now starting to doubt his intelligence. As for Toupee, filing Chapter 11 on four of his business to wipe away their debt owed to banks, employees and suppliers is not someone I'd trust to run the Country. If you think those two candidates would be better for this Country than Bernie Sanders, someone who has held a public office for 34 years...then you are among the people that shouldn't be allowed to walk around without a helmet.

You are like. A little kid who never entered big boy world.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on October 31, 2015, 09:47:54 PM
This, coupled with your affinity to even listen to a communist candidate makes you the biggest idiot I have encountered in a while. You have no clue how business or the economy works. Do you even have a job?

Carson is easily smart enough to run this country. Trump understands business. Only a dumbass CEO would not use offshore resources in this hostile business climate we have in the US. You may as well vote dem, you have that mindset.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: DnATL on November 01, 2015, 06:56:23 AM
The "communist candidate" is the best one for the Country, it is what it is. The more Carson talks...I'm now starting to doubt his intelligence. As for Toupee, filing Chapter 11 on four of his business to wipe away their debt owed to banks, employees and suppliers is not someone I'd trust to run the Country. If you think those two candidates would be better for this Country than Bernie Sanders, someone who has held a public office for 34 years...then you are among the people that shouldn't be allowed to walk around without a helmet.
You are like. A little kid who never entered big boy world.
don't waste your time - he's a fucking moron (unless he's an idiot)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 01, 2015, 07:50:26 PM
You are like. A little kid who never entered big boy world.

don't waste your time - he's a fucking moron (unless he's an idiot)
Maybe you should do some research before calling someone else a moron or idiot...just saying.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on November 01, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
Maybe you should do some research before calling someone else a moron or idiot...just saying.

My bad. Socialism works. We are just too stupid to know it because we haven't done our "research"!

Get a real job. Participate in life. And quit hoping for free shit!
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 02, 2015, 09:23:18 AM
My bad. Socialism works. We are just too stupid to know it because we haven't done our "research"!

Get a real job. Participate in life. And quit hoping for free shit!

Worked great in Cuba, the Soviet Union and Venezuela. Where you get pistol whipped for speaking out of turn or have to ask permission to get medical care or food. Thats exactly what a free society looks like. Getting permission from another human being to "live". Sign me up.

Humans are fucking stupid sometimes. And history repeats itself because we are so flawed in getting woo'ed by "all that glitters is gold". 
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 02, 2015, 09:40:13 PM
My bad. Socialism works. We are just too stupid to know it because we haven't done our "research"!

Get a real job. Participate in life. And quit hoping for free shit!
So, flipping burgers isn't a real job? My boss said if I keep up the good work I can move over to do the french fries, that's where the real money is....maybe then I can participate in life, like real life stuff.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 03, 2015, 08:29:01 AM
So, flipping burgers isn't a real job? My boss said if I keep up the good work I can move over to do the french fries, that's where the real money is....maybe then I can participate in life, like real life stuff.


Most people that have any sense and intuition figure out very early in life that a low paying job will not cut it later on in life if you want just about anything. Its an entry level job. It took me being at a grocery store about 2-3 months at age 16 to know I needed more than that. You see a paycheck. You figure out what things cost. You figure out what you bring home a month. And it clicks.....this isnt gonna work. I need more. Well, thats how people used to think. You want more, you work more. You earn it. It works. Then people like you and Bernie were spawned. And instead of saying "I need to do more", they just ask for it from someone else who did say that and earned it. And people like Comrad Bernie espouse this position to the idiot masses because its an indirect way of buying votes and a form of populism that has ventured into sheeple pandering.

Let me get this straight with you....you think I or Kaos or whoever else that is probably considered middle class on this board, should have their already high taxes increased, and given to others because we had some gumption to do something with our lives? You want us punished and them rewarded when we did all the right things, and they did all the wrong things and fucked around at McDs until they were 29?

If you believe that moronic "evil billionaries!!" rhetoric, then you are falling for the Alinksy Propoganda of the Century. Take a look at the tax code and see where the big jump is amongst normal working people. Its when your household crawls above that 90K mark. Hardly rich. Remember when Obama harked all the "fair share" shit in 2008? It was billionares only though. Well, then millionaires. No wait, its just 250K now. And Joe the Plumber of all people called him out on this shit.

Evil Rich People = any normal middle class household that makes over 90K. Fact....so says the IRS tax code table in our wonderful progressive tax system.

BTW - I have no issue with uber rich people paying their fair share. When Mitt Romney or George Soros pay a lower tax rate than most of their workers that make under 100K, then yeah thats an issue. These guys pay lawyers millions to save many millions. Which means closing tax shelters and loopholes where they move their money either offshore or to capital gains to get a lower tax rate. No issue with making them do that at all. 



From an uber conservative Bible thumping, rich people loving ABC News article...

Quote
"We have a president who is probably the most radical president in American history," Gingrich said this week. "If you look at his background, he's really a lot more Saul Alinsky and radicalism than he is anything to do with the traditional American models."
 
The attack falls in line with an effort by Republicans to accuse Obama of engaging in "class warfare." Alinsky, after all, began his book:  "What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."

Obama has written and talked extensively about his time as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago. But one short essay he wrote in 1988 hints at his philosophy about Alinsky activism.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 03, 2015, 12:48:10 PM
That's good and all GH...but I am pretty sure you just wasted a lot of time typing that out for him...
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 03, 2015, 01:43:43 PM
That's good and all GH...but I am pretty sure you just wasted a lot of time typing that out for him...

I'm sure he will come back with an indirect response about how bad Trump's toupe is or how much Carson closes his eyes. And oh yeah, Foxnews...rabble rabble. But hey, Bernie Effing Sanders because.....!
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 03, 2015, 03:08:23 PM
I'm sure he will come back with an indirect response about how bad Trump's toupe is or how much Carson closes his eyes. And oh yeah, Foxnews...rabble rabble. But hey, Bernie Effing Sanders because.....!

I am going to change my preference to who ever the coolest dude is.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 03, 2015, 06:03:12 PM

Most people that have any sense and intuition figure out very early in life that a low paying job will not cut it later on in life if you want just about anything. Its an entry level job. It took me being at a grocery store about 2-3 months at age 16 to know I needed more than that. You see a paycheck. You figure out what things cost. You figure out what you bring home a month. And it clicks.....this isnt gonna work. I need more. Well, thats how people used to think. You want more, you work more. You earn it. It works. Then people like you and Bernie were spawned. And instead of saying "I need to do more", they just ask for it from someone else who did say that and earned it. And people like Comrad Bernie espouse this position to the idiot masses because its an indirect way of buying votes and a form of populism that has ventured into sheeple pandering.

Let me get this straight with you....you think I or Kaos or whoever else that is probably considered middle class on this board, should have their already high taxes increased, and given to others because we had some gumption to do something with our lives? You want us punished and them rewarded when we did all the right things, and they did all the wrong things and fucked around at McDs until they were 29?

If you believe that moronic "evil billionaries!!" rhetoric, then you are falling for the Alinksy Propoganda of the Century. Take a look at the tax code and see where the big jump is amongst normal working people. Its when your household crawls above that 90K mark. Hardly rich. Remember when Obama harked all the "fair share" shit in 2008? It was billionares only though. Well, then millionaires. No wait, its just 250K now. And Joe the Plumber of all people called him out on this shit.

Evil Rich People = any normal middle class household that makes over 90K. Fact....so says the IRS tax code table in our wonderful progressive tax system.

BTW - I have no issue with uber rich people paying their fair share. When Mitt Romney or George Soros pay a lower tax rate than most of their workers that make under 100K, then yeah thats an issue. These guys pay lawyers millions to save many millions. Which means closing tax shelters and loopholes where they move their money either offshore or to capital gains to get a lower tax rate. No issue with making them do that at all. 



From an uber conservative Bible thumping, rich people loving ABC News article...

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y520/thebeast1223/didnt_read_midget_gif_zps8d40723a.gif)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 03, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y520/thebeast1223/didnt_read_midget_gif_zps8d40723a.gif)

Figures
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 03, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
http://www.westernjournalism.com/carson-just-heard-obamas-gop-debate-taunt-reminds-him-exactly-what-hes-afraid-of/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-11-03&utm_campaign=manualpost
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 04, 2015, 06:43:42 AM
On a serious note...are y'all voting for Ben Carson because he's a Neurosurgeon and you figure that he must be extremely smart to do so, or voting for him because he's the best candidate of the Republican side...or maybe voting for him because he's a "medical malpractice nightmare" with some cases still pending? I'm no rocket neurosurgeon, but I think that leaving a sponge inside someone's skull, then claiming that it's a tumor is a serious no-no.

I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Token on November 04, 2015, 09:01:30 AM
On a serious note...are y'all voting for Ben Carson because he's a Neurosurgeon and you figure that he must be extremely smart to do so, or voting for him because he's the best candidate of the Republican side...or maybe voting for him because he's a "medical malpractice nightmare" with some cases still pending? I'm no rocket neurosurgeon, but I think that leaving a sponge inside someone's skull, then claiming that it's a tumor is a serious no-no.

I'm just curious.

I just like black men.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2015, 09:07:21 AM
On a serious note...are y'all voting for Ben Carson because he's a Neurosurgeon and you figure that he must be extremely smart to do so, or voting for him because he's the best candidate of the Republican side...or maybe voting for him because he's a "medical malpractice nightmare" with some cases still pending? I'm no rocket neurosurgeon, but I think that leaving a sponge inside someone's skull, then claiming that it's a tumor is a serious no-no.

I'm just curious.

He's just cool. No other reason. Seemed to work for Obama.

Also, do always believe something that is reported by the National Enquirer?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 04, 2015, 09:50:15 AM
On a serious note...are y'all voting for Ben Carson because he's a Neurosurgeon and you figure that he must be extremely smart to do so, or voting for him because he's the best candidate of the Republican side...or maybe voting for him because he's a "medical malpractice nightmare" with some cases still pending? I'm no rocket neurosurgeon, but I think that leaving a sponge inside someone's skull, then claiming that it's a tumor is a serious no-no.

I'm just curious.


I am going to vote for him because he has no experience at really running anything on that scale.










Democrats already proved you don't need any experience to get elected.   
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 04, 2015, 11:56:14 AM
On a serious note...are y'all voting for Ben Carson because he's a Neurosurgeon and you figure that he must be extremely smart to do so, or voting for him because he's the best candidate of the Republican side...or maybe voting for him because he's a "medical malpractice nightmare" with some cases still pending? I'm no rocket neurosurgeon, but I think that leaving a sponge inside someone's skull, then claiming that it's a tumor is a serious no-no.

I'm just curious.

Real answer?

He isn't in my top 3. I think hes a swell guy. Nice fella and all that shit. But Trump and a few others have made some good points about Carson - he has no experience with ANY aspect of running the world. Foreign policy, economics, dealing with the spider web that is capitol hill, deals, negotiating, etc. Maybe one day, but not this cycle.

Ive already said I personally prefer Rubio. He's a combo of smart, diverse, experienced, young and pragamatic. He's also not a spineless jellyfish like Bush or Boehner. He would give the GOP a new face, and get away from it being the crusty old angry white man party. I think Paul Ryan's assention to Speaker also helps this.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Ive already said I personally prefer Rubio. He's a combo of smart, diverse, experienced, young and pragamatic. He's also not a spineless jellyfish like Bush or Boehner. He would give the GOP a new face, and get away from it being the crusty old angry white man party. I think Paul Ryan's assention to Speaker also helps this.

Can't argue with that.
What would you think of a Rubio/Carson ticket?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 04, 2015, 01:56:23 PM
Can't argue with that.
What would you think of a Rubio/Carson ticket?

Would have no issue with it.

And it would be an extemely diverse ticket - Rubio a latino from the South, Carson a black guy from the North. Its too bad guys like Prowler are so racist that they would rather vote for an angry old bitter white man than a couple of minorities. I thought we were past all that in our country. So sad how some are still.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 04, 2015, 02:51:47 PM
He's just cool. No other reason. Seemed to work for Obama.

Also, do always believe something that is reported by the National Enquirer?
It's a fact that he's considered a malpractice nightmare, you should maybe do your research on the man you're voting for to run the Country. Before he retired he settled two more cases, paying the people out of pocket. This is also the same doctor that claimed to have his prostate cancer removed by some supplements, nevermind the fact that he had surgery to do so.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on November 04, 2015, 07:58:20 PM
It's a fact that he's considered a malpractice nightmare, you should maybe do your research on the man you're voting for to run the Country. Before he retired he settled two more cases, paying the people out of pocket. This is also the same doctor that claimed to have his prostate cancer removed by some supplements, nevermind the fact that he had surgery to do so.

Yeah, but he's black and can reach inside that little pea brain of yours and fix you.

You can sue him later. Everybody wins!
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 04, 2015, 10:22:52 PM
Yeah, but he's black and can reach inside that little pea brain of yours and fix you.

You can sue him later. Everybody wins!
What does the color of skin have to do with anything?

So, you actually think he's qualified or capable to run this Country? I think your brain needs a new hamster, cause the one you have now might be dead.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 05, 2015, 07:27:06 AM
What does the color of skin have to do with anything?

So, you actually think he's qualified or capable to run this Country? I think your brain needs a new hamster, cause the one you have now might be dead.
If what we have in office now is reflective of what is considered "qualified" or "capable", then I'll vote for Dr. Carson with no hesitation.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2015, 08:34:43 AM
If what we have in office now is reflective of what is considered "qualified" or "capable", then I'll vote for Dr. Carson with no hesitation.

This guy knows ^^^

Gloss over one...put the other under a microscope. That kind of analysis flies in the face of objectivity. And Ayn Rand wept. People should also take a closer look at Bernie's so called "I don't take pac or lobbyist or special interest money! I can't be bought" line of BS. These things are disclosed online. He gets a LOT of special interest money. And also - don't hold your breath - CORPORATE MONEY! But the idiot masses buy his load of crap.

I don't agree with Neil DeGrasse Tyson often but one of his quotes rings home a lot of truth with folks like our own Prowler (and people on the GOP side are not immune to this either):

Quote
"I dream of a world where the truth is what shapes people's politics, rather than politics shaping what people think is true."

Prowler - whether you know it or not, this is exactly what you are doing. You have a view and you have a notion in your head ahead of time - and you are simply going out of your way to find convenient, cherry picked or out of contexts "things" to support it, instead of the other way around. And also trying to find the guy who supports your preexisting ideas and tells you what you want to hear. People should let these candidates "come to them" on these election cycles, instead of forcing themselves into a preconceived notion and sandboxing in. Its the flaw of human emotion that allows this. Big giant rousing church sermons combined with pep rallies full of emotional warfare is what its become.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on November 05, 2015, 09:33:47 AM
What does the color of skin have to do with anything?

So, you actually think he's qualified or capable to run this Country? I think your brain needs a new hamster, cause the one you have now might be dead.

Admit it, you would sue!
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 05, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
It's a fact that he's considered a malpractice nightmare, you should maybe do your research on the man you're voting for to run the Country. Before he retired he settled two more cases, paying the people out of pocket. This is also the same doctor that claimed to have his prostate cancer removed by some supplements, nevermind the fact that he had surgery to do so.

Again considering papers such as National Enquirer as a credible source is not a good idea. Maybe you should do a little more research.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
Again considering papers such as National Enquirer as a credible source is not a good idea. Maybe you should do a little more research.

Again, goes back to what I said above. Witch Hunting for things that don't exist or that are very scantly supported, even if you have to resort to "he said she said" or tabloid mags. Same tabloid mags that say Obama is gay, Michelle has a dick and W is near death.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 05, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
Again considering papers such as National Enquirer as a credible source is not a good idea. Maybe you should do a little more research.
Can you prove that UFO's did not land on the Whitehouse lawn? Or, that OJ Simpson was not having a secret affair with Nancy Reagan?

I didn't think so. Back it up or shut it up, bitch.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on November 05, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
The lying bastard wasn't the thug he claimed to be either:


https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/ben-carson-fabricated-violent-juvenile-past-cnn-investigation-145104502.html?ref=gs

How can any of you take this guy seriously?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 05, 2015, 11:13:56 AM
Can you prove that UFO's did not land on the Whitehouse lawn? Or, that OJ Simpson was not having a secret affair with Nancy Reagan?

I didn't think so. Back it up or shut it up, bitch.

OJ did what?????
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 05, 2015, 11:18:29 AM
Again considering papers such as National Enquirer as a credible source is not a good idea. Maybe you should do a little more research.
Has Carson received Bat Boy's endorsement yet? That's the one I'm waiting for. I think he'll go with Carson or Trump.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2015, 11:43:22 AM
Good hip hop still exists, amiright?
https://soundcloud.com/abcpolitics/ben-carson-radio-ad
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
Good hip hop still exists, amiright?
https://soundcloud.com/abcpolitics/ben-carson-radio-ad

Would really like you to weigh in here. Serious.

You tend to have a pragmatic and objective side. What say you ?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 05, 2015, 11:49:18 AM
Good hip hop still exists, amiright?
https://soundcloud.com/abcpolitics/ben-carson-radio-ad

That bass is kickn
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2015, 11:51:49 AM
That bass is kickn

Ben is all about dat bass. Bout dat bass. No treble.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2015, 12:39:44 PM
Would really like you to weigh in here. Serious.

You tend to have a pragmatic and objective side. What say you ?
Only since you asked.

Here's how I'd rank the nominees on both sides:
Like/Would Definitely Vote For
1. Rubio - Clearly the smartest, most experienced candidate that knows what the fuck he's talking about. Latino and young vote would bump him into a win for the Rs.
2. Fiorina - Also very smart. Everything people like about Trump is also true about Fiorina, except she actually knows how to discuss foreign, or hell, domestic policies without sounding like a bafoon. She probably is the most articulate and intelligent when it comes to this. Also she negates Hillary's entire campaign that simply being a woman is her top qualification.
3. Kasich - You guys probably think he's a RINO, but I think he is one of the few Rs to consistently display common sense.
4. Paul - The closest to a real libertarian. He was my for sure #1 early in the campaign, but I've faltered on him. Mainly because I don't believe he has any real chance, and also because he's compromised a lot, presumably to try to win the Republican primary. Double-edged sword I guess, but he's not navigating it well on either side.

Neutral/Might Vote For, But Probably Would Just Stay Home
5. Jeb! - For much of the same reason I don't like Hillary, I don't like Jeb. The Bush name is tainted to your average voter. Let alone played out. Need fresh blood, not a dynasty. And the idea that he was the smarter, stronger Bush has been wearing out momentously. He appears to be a pussy version of W.
6. Chris Christie - Fascist authoritarian. Hates the "Libertarian thread" of the Republican party. Big against pot. Big on the Patriot Act. I don't care for it.
7. Martin O'Malley - Yep, the Dem. No I don't like him, but I dislike about the same amount of things about him as Christie. He at least is articulate and just seems presidential. Note that I would have put Chafee and Webb either at the top of this section or the bottom of the previous section, around 5 & 6, but they both dropped out.
8. Ted Cruz - Goober.

Dislike/Would definitely not be motivated to vote for and would probably Actively Vote against
9. Mike Huckabee - Religious nutjub, IMO. I know that doesn't play here, but that's my opinion on the man. The Kim Davis shit was a clown show.
10. Hillary Clinton - For starters, the same reason I don't like Jeb! Add to that that she is the definition of nontransparent authoritarian government. The emails and Benghazi stuff is proof enough to me that she will lie and deceive for political gain. Fuck her.
11. Ben Carson - I want to cheer for this guy. A black brain surgeon? Sounds like an automatic win for the Rs. I hesitate to call him stupid due to his profession, but if I didn't know that about him I would swear he was dumber than Palin. He says outlandishly crazy/stupid things with frequency. He's a neuroscientist. Great. He's not a political scientist. When you push specifically to get an "outsider" that isn't tainted by the political system, what you're really saying is you want someone completely unqualified to run the country to run the country. Like saying you want my grandmother who has never used a computer to be your IT person. Just, no.

STRONGLY dislike/Would actively vote against because they will destroy the country if elected
12. Bernie Sanders - Self described socialist, as if you didn't know. His economic plan will drive us so far into debt, we will become his utopian Cuba with the quickness. He can brainwash people that only the top 1% billionaires with yachts will be punished with his tax plan, but they are idiots if they think that math adds up. He will be taxing the upper middle class i.e. most everyone here upwards of 50% to pay for the shit he's dreamed up.
13. Donald Trump - This guy is a complete and utter fucking idiot, and frankly, you are too if you don't immediately recognize it every time he opens his mouth. He says a whole lot of nothing about nothing every single time. But he's gonna make the economy classy and do it better than the other guy cause he's not ugly and super rich and wicked smart. Or something. I don't care if he was a successful business person, which arguably, he wasn't. Good for him that he turned a ton of money into a ton more money. That does not in any way, shape, or form qualify him for the presidency. Like I said about Fiorina, at least she clearly knows what she's talking about. Give her a question on Hezbollah and Hamas and she will answer intelligently. Trump would say he never cared for Greek food. He is a clown. Any international respect we had would be obliterated for good if we elect that imbecile. He is president Hector Camacho from Idiocracy. Words cannot explain how disastrous that would be for our country. And furthermore, I'm not convinced he isn't a Hillary plant sent specifically to make Republicans look like buffoons. He donated to the Clinton foundation, and there are nothing about any of his policies (the few he was able to articulate to begin with) that are "conservative". Not being PC is not the same as not being a belligerent asshole.

My $0.02.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2015, 12:47:41 PM
Only since you asked.

Here's how I'd rank the nominees on both sides:
Like/Would Definitely Vote For
1. Rubio - Clearly the smartest, most experienced candidate that knows what the fuck he's talking about. Latino and young vote would bump him into a win for the Rs.
2. Fiorina - Also very smart. Everything people like about Trump is also true about Fiorina, except she actually knows how to discuss foreign, or hell, domestic policies without sounding like a bafoon. She probably is the most articulate and intelligent when it comes to this. Also she negates Hillary's entire campaign that simply being a woman is her top qualification.
3. Kasich - You guys probably think he's a RINO, but I think he is one of the few Rs to consistently display common sense.
4. Paul - The closest to a real libertarian. He was my for sure #1 early in the campaign, but I've faltered on him. Mainly because I don't believe he has any real chance, and also because he's compromised a lot, presumably to try to win the Republican primary. Double-edged sword I guess, but he's not navigating it well on either side.

Neutral/Might Vote For, But Probably Would Just Stay Home
5. Jeb! - For much of the same reason I don't like Hillary, I don't like Jeb. The Bush name is tainted to your average voter. Let alone played out. Need fresh blood, not a dynasty. And the idea that he was the smarter, stronger Bush has been wearing out momentously. He appears to be a pussy version of W.
6. Chris Christie - Fascist authoritarian. Hates the "Libertarian thread" of the Republican party. Big against pot. Big on the Patriot Act. I don't care for it.
7. Martin O'Malley - Yep, the Dem. No I don't like him, but I dislike about the same amount of things about him as Christie. He at least is articulate and just seems presidential. Note that I would have put Chafee and Webb either at the top of this section or the bottom of the previous section, around 5 & 6, but they both dropped out.
8. Ted Cruz - Goober.

Dislike/Would definitely not be motivated to vote for and would probably Actively Vote against
9. Mike Huckabee - Religious nutjub, IMO. I know that doesn't play here, but that's my opinion on the man. The Kim Davis shit was a clown show.
10. Hillary Clinton - For starters, the same reason I don't like Jeb! Add to that that she is the definition of nontransparent authoritarian government. The emails and Benghazi stuff is proof enough to me that she will lie and deceive for political gain. Fuck her.
11. Ben Carson - I want to cheer for this guy. A black brain surgeon? Sounds like an automatic win for the Rs. I hesitate to call him stupid due to his profession, but if I didn't know that about him I would swear he was dumber than Palin. He says outlandishly crazy/stupid things with frequency. He's a neuroscientist. Great. He's not a political scientist. When you push specifically to get an "outsider" that isn't tainted by the political system, what you're really saying is you want someone completely unqualified to run the country to run the country. Like saying you want my grandmother who has never used a computer to be your IT person. Just, no.

STRONGLY dislike/Would actively vote against because they will destroy the country if elected
12. Bernie Sanders - Self described socialist, as if you didn't know. His economic plan will drive us so far into debt, we will become his utopian Cuba with the quickness. He can brainwash people that only the top 1% billionaires with yachts will be punished with his tax plan, but they are idiots if they think that math adds up. He will be taxing the upper middle class i.e. most everyone here upwards of 50% to pay for the shit he's dreamed up.
13. Donald Trump - This guy is a complete and utter fucking idiot, and frankly, you are too if you don't immediately recognize it every time he opens his mouth. He says a whole lot of nothing about nothing every single time. But he's gonna make the economy classy and do it better than the other guy cause he's not ugly and super rich and wicked smart. Or something. I don't care if he was a successful business person, which arguably, he wasn't. Good for him that he turned a ton of money into a ton more money. That does not in any way, shape, or form qualify him for the presidency. Like I said about Fiorina, at least she clearly knows what she's talking about. Give her a question on Hezbollah and Hamas and she will answer intelligently. Trump would say he never cared for Greek food. He is a clown. Any international respect we had would be obliterated for good if we elect that imbecile. He is president Hector Camacho from Idiocracy. Words cannot explain how disastrous that would be for our country. And furthermore, I'm not convinced he isn't a Hillary plant sent specifically to make Republicans look like buffoons. He donated to the Clinton foundation, and there are nothing about any of his policies (the few he was able to articulate to begin with) that are "conservative". Not being PC is not the same as not being a belligerent asshole.

My $0.02.

Agree with most. You at least have reasons and legit thoughts behind them.

I really do like Rubio. And would get on board more with kasich if not for his adamant support of common core and aca. But aside from those he makes a lot of sense.

Glad to hear someone else understand the Bernie billionaire rhetoric.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on November 05, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
So you are saying a guy who has run successful businesses would be worse than the guy who was only a community organizer?

And we would LOSE international respect? As opposed to what we have now?


Your hatred of Trump is why he is doing so well. I'm not sold on the guy yet, but I damn sure am not ready to throw him out.

Most of us "common" folk are tired of anything that has ties to current politics. THAT is why Carson and Trump are doing well. Why keep giving the politically astute candidates more chances to screw us?

This is an interesting time in American politics. Will we go full commie, or give the country back to the people?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2015, 01:19:57 PM
So you are saying a guy who has run successful businesses would be worse than the guy who was only a community organizer?

And we would LOSE international respect? As opposed to what we have now?


Your hatred of Trump is why he is doing so well. I'm not sold on the guy yet, but I damn sure am not ready to throw him out.

Most of us "common" folk are tired of anything that has ties to current politics. THAT is why Carson and Trump are doing well. Why keep giving the politically astute candidates more chances to screw us?

This is an interesting time in American politics. Will we go full commie, or give the country back to the people?
First, like I said, his success as a businessman is debatable at best. He inherited the Trump empire from his father. That's just a fact. It has gone bankrupt four times since 1993. That's also just a fact. At best, he was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run.

At some point in the 80s, he BECAME the business. He became famous for being famous. He is the male Kim Kardashian. She's a successful business person to, by the same measure.

Yes, we would LOSE international respect. It should be obvious that President Honey Boo Boo makes us the butt of a pitiful, sad joke.

You "common folks" want idiots to run the country. Ok. Seriously, why not Fiorina? I'm not trying to play the gender card, but that's the only reason I can even imagine that puts Trump over her in any measure. What do you like about Trump that isn't true for Fiorina? I can for sure list things I like about Fiorina that isn't true of Trump.


As a side note, I meant to mention that as much as I think Bernie's economic plans will drive us to ruins, he does at least have one redeeming quality. There is zero point zero percent bullshit. You for sure know what he thinks and he will say it without much calculation. In that regard, he is the anti-Hillary. I at least respect him for that, I just happen to disagree with most of those things he's saying with refreshing honesty.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on November 05, 2015, 01:37:56 PM
First, like I said, his success as a businessman is debatable at best. He inherited the Trump empire from his father. That's just a fact. It has gone bankrupt four times since 1993.

So Trump has gone bankrupt and completely started over 4 times?
Or is it that 4 of his MANY companies have had to file bankruptcy? There is a difference. He uses the system just like any other successful businessman, whether they be dem or repub. It's not preferable, but it has kept many companies afloat. So I am not going to hang my hat on that as the main reason NOT to vote for him.

It seems a fact is whatever one says and then follows it with "FACT"!

But the bottom line is, I have no idea of knowing if he would be a good president or not.

But I do know a communist and a liar are not preferable to Trump.

The jury is still out on all of them. But don't be surprised if you and all of your most intelligent friends are going into the election with Trump on the ballot.

Us "common" folks get to have our opinion too.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2015, 01:51:07 PM
First, like I said, his success as a businessman is debatable at best. He inherited the Trump empire from his father. That's just a fact. It has gone bankrupt four times since 1993. That's also just a fact. At best, he was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run.

Fair enough. Although the difference in the "empire" he inherited vs what he built it into today is exponential. Yes, he was born rich and got help from his pop to the tune of a 1 million dollar "loan". But he is worth 10 billion. Thats a big piece of growth, like him or not. He took a good sum of money and multiplied it with business acumen. I dont like the Bankruptcy thing either, but probably for the real reason he did it - which was to get creditors gone. He did it because he could not because he had to. He had admitted he used the law to his advantage. Not that I feel sorry for creditors but it is a little shrewd to do that. And I can see that sitting uneasy with people. It would bother me more that he did it because he could, not because he needed to.


You "common folks" want idiots to run the country. Ok. Seriously, why not Fiorina? I'm not trying to play the gender card, but that's the only reason I can even imagine that puts Trump over her in any measure. What do you like about Trump that isn't true for Fiorina? I can for sure list things I like about Fiorina that isn't true of Trump.

Carly is a total failure on record. Most in the industry know this and will tell it like that. She nearly bankrupted HP. She came in swinging an axe and almost cut her own head off. She uses the dot com bust and complacent good ole boys as excuses to why she failed, but that is crap. She just really sucked at running a company and making important decisions. That said, I dont think that necessarily DQ's her from being Prez. She has some strengths. Shes smart, great on a podium (much like Reagan), quick on her feet and has a shit ton of confidence. Best of all shes the anti Hillary. Sounds weird for me to say it, but I would vote for her.


As a side note, I meant to mention that as much as I think Bernie's economic plans will drive us to ruins, he does at least have one redeeming quality. There is zero point zero percent bullshit. You for sure know what he thinks and he will say it without much calculation. In that regard, he is the anti-Hillary. I at least respect him for that, I just happen to disagree with most of those things he's saying with refreshing honesty.

For the most part, I agree but he has his fair share (pun intended) of BS. He gets plenty of big money (pacs, corporations and lobbyists). He is "bought" more than he wants people to know. But thats his thing, so he rolls with it because it resonates with the anti Hillary dems.

Lastly - THIS is how you have a discussion on candidates. Disagreements, maybe. But with substance and facts. Prowler, take notes from Chizad here.

There is more to political discussion than "He sucks!!! what a fucking moron!!!!! He has a toupee and falls asleep!!! WHOOOO WHOOO!!"
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 05, 2015, 07:55:26 PM
One thing Carson has done is made people start to question the intelligence of Neurosurgeons.

Another quote from Dr. Moron:

"My own personal theory is that Joseph (of the Old Testament) built the pyramids (of Giza) in order to store grain."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/11/05/archaeologists-to-ben-carson-ancient-egyptians-wrote-down-why-the-pyramids-were-built/

I honestly believe he, at some point in his career, performed a Lobotomy on himself.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 06, 2015, 09:34:33 AM
One thing Carson has done is made people start to question the intelligence of Neurosurgeons.

Another quote from Dr. Moron:

"My own personal theory is that Joseph (of the Old Testament) built the pyramids (of Giza) in order to store grain."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/11/05/archaeologists-to-ben-carson-ancient-egyptians-wrote-down-why-the-pyramids-were-built/

I honestly believe he, at some point in his career, performed a Lobotomy on himself.

Did you vote for Barry O?

Because I could cherry pick a plethora of quotes that most would think are asinine from him. Im not excusing some of Ben's comments. I dont agree with him on everything and have said he isn't my preference. But you tend to gloss over others who do the same if not more. Would you have done the same with Joe Biden? He's the dumb quote King. Hillary? Even Jeb has made some stupid statements without repercussion. I understand that being the front runner takes on more scrutiny, but you just seem to have your own little personal war with Mr. Carson. And are going to go and find any ammo you can (unfounded or not) against him while not doing the same for others.

Can we examine ALL candidates dumb statements? And ones that actually are applicable to doing the job as POTUS and not a view of religion or Egypt. I dont know, maybe Hillary lying about classified information and compromising govt operatives' identities. Or "what difference does it make??". Your boy Bernie says "those damn emails" are not important. Are you ok with that???? Thats a more asinine statement than ANY candidate in the race has made. Leaking classified information to Russian and Chinese hackers is not that important. Got it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 06, 2015, 09:50:46 AM
"I always base my vote on a candidate's opinion on ancient Egyptian history," said no sane person ever.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on November 06, 2015, 09:55:19 AM
Quote
And various of scientists [sic] have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you.’”

This guy is not a scientist...

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/848/ancient-aliens.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: RottenBottom on November 06, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
Agree with most. You at least have reasons and legit thoughts behind them.

I really do like Rubio. And would get on board more with kasich if not for his adamant support of common core and aca. But aside from those he makes a lot of sense.

Glad to hear someone else understand the Bernie billionaire rhetoric.
It truly is scaryhow many new voting aged kids like Bernie. That man stands for everything the founding fathers did not want this country to be.

Kasich is a moron though. Ted Cruz is probably the best choice on the stage. He comes off as blunt and arrogant sometimes, but he knows the constitution and is very smart.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 06, 2015, 04:54:04 PM
Has anyone read Carson's Autobiography? Specifically the part about him beating up a couple of people and nearly killing one of them? Yeah, I thought Autobiographies were suppose to be backed up with facts...facts like none of those people were real.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 06, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Good grief, people in this country are getting dumber and dumber. Intellectually primative bird-brained parrots.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on November 06, 2015, 10:08:46 PM
Good grief, people in this country are getting dumber and dumber. Intellectually primative bird-brained parrots.
Evidenced by Trump & Carson being #1 & #2 in the Republican polls…
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 06, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
Evidenced by Trump & Carson being #1 & #2 in the Republican polls…
And a marxist crook and a crusty old communist being #1 & #2 in the democrat polls...

This country is screwed.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on November 06, 2015, 10:25:02 PM
And a marxist crook and a crusty old communist being #1 & #2 in the democrat polls...

This country is screwed.
Don't disagree.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 07, 2015, 01:10:36 AM
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/06/politico-admits-fabricating-a-hit-piece-on-ben-carson/#.Vj0_0zQmMeo.twitter
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 07, 2015, 08:43:56 AM
Don't disagree.

In a sane world- Webb would get the dem ticket. Rubio gets the gop ticket. Whole country would win with either. Like Kennedy/Nixon in 1960 (before Nixon became a sellout).

But I can tell you this: Trump, Carson, Bernie even Carly for an instant - all were and are high in the polls because of being anti-establishment more so than being pro-anything. That stuff resonates with people. Not saying I think any of them are the best candidates but it's why they are all doing so well.

But back to prowlers new hero Comrad Bernie and all those grassroots "under 50 dollars" donors, no pacs or special interests at all. Bernie is such a common man. I wonder what he is doing for American Crystal Sugar company to get those big donations? Surely they are just doing it out of the kindness of their heart and don't expect any vote or favor in return. Not at all.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=n00000528&cycle=2014
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 23, 2015, 05:40:42 PM
This guy is #2 for the GOP...

Ben Carson doesn't know about the Constitution... (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/23/what-ben-carson-just-said-about-the-constitution-should-disqualify-him-video/)
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 24, 2015, 09:02:33 AM
This guy is #2 for the GOP...

Ben Carson doesn't know about the Constitution... (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/23/what-ben-carson-just-said-about-the-constitution-should-disqualify-him-video/)

He will not be #2 for very much longer. Esp if this ISIS stuff keeps up. Ben is showing his lacking of knowledge on some of those issues and to me that is nothing to play around with. Ive seen in SOME polls where Rubio and Cruz have already went past him, esp in the states that matter (swing states) like NH and Fla. 

I saw last week where one of his advisors was frustrated that Ben "just wasn't getting it" despite them trying to pound it in his head behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on November 24, 2015, 05:43:17 PM
He will not be #2 for very much longer. Esp if this ISIS stuff keeps up. Ben is showing his lacking of knowledge on some of those issues and to me that is nothing to play around with. Ive seen in SOME polls where Rubio and Cruz have already went past him, esp in the states that matter (swing states) like NH and Fla. 

I saw last week where one of his advisors was frustrated that Ben "just wasn't getting it" despite them trying to pound it in his head behind the scenes.

I saw that too, then Ben said that the guy wasn't his advisor, but that he was brought in on a few occasions to help him with certain things...just like a advisor is suppose to do.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 24, 2015, 06:34:27 PM
I saw that too, then Ben said that the guy wasn't his advisor, but that he was brought in on a few occasions to help him with certain things...just like a advisor is suppose to do.

I've said the whole time: he's a nice guy, his story is very admirable. But he just isn't the guy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 25, 2015, 09:22:32 AM
I've said the whole time: he's a nice guy, his story is very admirable. But he just isn't the guy.

Can't say I disagree. Personally I think he would serve much better in VP role. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not sold on any of them. The Dem side is a joke with Hillary Death Star Clinton and Bernie insane. The Rep side just seems to have a bunch of retread politicians with a few newbies thrown in. I can't stand Trump, period and the rest are just meh. Out of them all for Prez, I like Rubio the most. It just doesn't seem he is getting any traction.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 25, 2015, 09:41:45 AM
Can't say I disagree. Personally I think he would serve much better in VP role. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not sold on any of them. The Dem side is a joke with Hillary Death Star Clinton and Bernie insane. The Rep side just seems to have a bunch of retread politicians with a few newbies thrown in. I can't stand Trump, period and the rest are just meh. Out of them all for Prez, I like Rubio the most. It just doesn't seem he is getting any traction.

Look at the latest Iowa and NH numbers.

In Iowa Cruz has dropped Carson like a rock, and is now tied with Trump and Rubio is in hot pursuit. Ive had a few democrat friends tell me they would vote for Rubio over Hillary in a general. They really don't like her. I think he's a no brainer. Would be a cakewalk next November if he is the nominee.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: djsimp on November 25, 2015, 09:48:45 AM
Look at the latest Iowa and NH numbers.

In Iowa Cruz has dropped Carson like a rock, and is not tied with Trump and Rubio is in hot pursuit. Ive had a few democrat friends tell me they would vote for Rubio over Hillary in a general. They really don't like her. I think he's a no brainer. Would be a cakewalk next November if he is the nominee.

Honestly, Cruz and Rubio are the only that makes any damn sense to be Prez. The rest are VP material except for Bush. Please, let's not let him anywhere near the White House. There is something about Cruz I don't like though. I think its his voice and his face. Reminds me of a Muppet or something. I know that shouldn't disqualify him as a candidate but it's a tough hurdle for me.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on November 25, 2015, 09:56:44 AM
Honestly, Cruz and Rubio are the only that makes any damn sense to be Prez. The rest are VP material except for Bush. Please, let's not let him anywhere near the White House. There is something about Cruz I don't like though. I think its his voice and his face. Reminds me of a Muppet or something. I know that shouldn't disqualify him as a candidate but it's a tough hurdle for me.

Cruz is solid.

Comes off sometimes as a televangelist sometimes but the boy good. His background is debate and courtroom litigation. He would make the general debates fun. Plus he sticks to his guns.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on March 06, 2017, 07:55:58 PM
Ben Carson Secretary of Housing and Urban Development...

"That’s what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

Samuel L. Jackson ✔ @SamuelLJackson
OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom
3:04 PM - 6 Mar 2017

Jonathan Jewel @jonathanjewel
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Q6R0PUwAAqHVR.jpg)
Just another immigrant Ben Carson said came to the US for prosperity and happiness
3:11 PM - 6 Mar 2017

Tariq Nasheed ✔ @tariqnasheed
Ben Carson said slaves were immigrants who came over here & worked for less. By "came" you mean FORCED and by "less" you mean NOTHING
3:26 PM - 6 Mar 2017

Betty F*ckin' White @BettyFckinWhite
When you hear Ben Carson talk, he makes it seem like brain surgery couldn't really be that hard.
4:29 PM - 6 Mar 2017



Just to be clear here...slavery was not immigration. It's pretty sad that needs to be explained to a Neurosurgeon, that just so happens to be African-American.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on March 06, 2017, 08:08:35 PM
Ben Carson Secretary of Housing and Urban Development...

"That’s what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

Samuel L. Jackson ✔ @SamuelLJackson
OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom
3:04 PM - 6 Mar 2017

Jonathan Jewel @jonathanjewel
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Q6R0PUwAAqHVR.jpg)
Just another immigrant Ben Carson said came to the US for prosperity and happiness
3:11 PM - 6 Mar 2017

Tariq Nasheed ✔ @tariqnasheed
Ben Carson said slaves were immigrants who came over here & worked for less. By "came" you mean FORCED and by "less" you mean NOTHING
3:26 PM - 6 Mar 2017

Betty F*ckin' White @BettyFckinWhite
When you hear Ben Carson talk, he makes it seem like brain surgery couldn't really be that hard.
4:29 PM - 6 Mar 2017



Just to be clear here...slavery was not immigration. It's pretty sad that needs to be explained to a Neurosurgeon, that just so happens to be African-American.

Ok prowler. I'll bite here.

Let me start off by saying I know exactly why someone would see those comments and react harshly. On the surface they may seem a little shortsighted of him. But checking the emotions at the door for a sec, they were still immigrants by the technical definition of the word. It was just a FORCED migration which is the key. I think most assume that immigration is always the picture of "dreaming of a better life and taking a chance to start a new life in another land". Unfortunately some immigrants were forced to migrate here under much harsher conditions. So while technically true what he said, I personally would have steered clear of wording it that way especially since that is such a sensitive issue and it's usually a no-win kind of topic.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on March 06, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
Forced migration has more to do with refugees or people that are displaced due to country in conflict, disasters, etc.

Slaves weren't legally recognized as human beings, they were property. That hurdle had to be jumped first.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on March 07, 2017, 04:55:57 AM
Forced migration has more to do with refugees or people that are displaced due to country in conflict, disasters, etc.

Slaves weren't legally recognized as human beings, they were property. That hurdle had to be jumped first.

Typical hysterical reaction and word parsing. 

Not the best way to phrase it, but the sentiment was sincere and accurate.

Fuck the hysteria.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on March 07, 2017, 08:40:37 AM
Forced migration has more to do with refugees or people that are displaced due to country in conflict, disasters, etc.

Slaves weren't legally recognized as human beings, they were property. That hurdle had to be jumped first.

True. But they were still forced migrants. The means was different but at the end of the day they ended up being immigrants. I think Ben just chose poor wording. Which he's done often.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: CCTAU on March 07, 2017, 09:01:22 AM
Living in the state of Georgia, which was once a penal colony for Britain, I can attest that somebody other than black people were forced immigrants.

Words seem to hurt the sensitive beta male on the left so much.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on March 07, 2017, 04:11:30 PM
http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/11-times-barack-obama-compared-slaves-to-immigrants/
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: GH2001 on March 07, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/11-times-barack-obama-compared-slaves-to-immigrants/

Honest attempt there chad. But I think prowler got what he wanted out of that post yesterday.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: AUChizad on March 07, 2017, 04:22:38 PM
Honest attempt there chad. But I think prowler got what he wanted out of that post yesterday.
Just wondering why he (or the celebrities he copy/pastes his opinions from) were not outraged any of those 11 times?
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Godfather on March 07, 2017, 04:24:48 PM
Just wondering why he (or the celebrities he copy/pastes his opinions from) were not outraged any of those 11 times?
Because celebrities are morons
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 07, 2017, 04:31:48 PM
Because celebrities are morons

You're my star.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on March 07, 2017, 04:47:36 PM
"...I could take the oldest person here, make a hole right here on the side of the head, and put some depth electrodes into their hippocampus and stimulate, and they would be able to recite back to you verbatim a book they read 60 years ago..." - Ben Carson

Thank god that retard isn't working on brains anymore.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: Kaos on March 07, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
"...I could take the oldest person here, make a hole right here on the side of the head, and put some depth electrodes into their hippocampus and stimulate, and they would be able to recite back to you verbatim a book they read 60 years ago..." - Ben Carson

Thank god that retard isn't working on brains anymore.
Somebody needs to work on yours.
Title: Re: Ben Carson For President
Post by: The Prowler on March 07, 2017, 05:09:02 PM
Somebody needs to work on yours.
Let Ben Carson work on yours first...tell him to put depth electrodes into your brain. I'm betting that your supermarket or gas station adventures will be very entertaining afterwards.

Like I said months ago, he being a "top neurosurgeon" makes me question the intelligence of all of the other neurosurgeons...remember he still believes that the pyramids of Giza were built by Joseph (of the Bible) to store grain.  :facepalm: