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Title: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 17, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
IF a study is conducted in this lawmakers hometown, and his assertions are correct, then are his remarks racist? I'm just wondering what everyone thinks. I read the article and I feel like the remarks are pretty dumb for a politician to make. But, IF they are true, should he be labeled a racist?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mississippi-lawmaker-blacks-dont-work-and-get-crazy-welfare-checks/ar-BBhEOQI?ocid=DELLDHP (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mississippi-lawmaker-blacks-dont-work-and-get-crazy-welfare-checks/ar-BBhEOQI?ocid=DELLDHP)

Mississippi Lawmaker: Blacks Don't Work And Get 'Crazy Welfare Checks
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State Rep. Gene Alday says racist comments recently attributed to him were taken out of context and supposed to be off the record.   © Mississippi House of Representatives State Rep. Gene Alday says racist comments recently attributed to him were taken out of context and supposed to be off the record.   
A Mississippi lawmaker says racist comments recently attributed to him were taken out of context and supposed to be off the record.

State Rep. Gene Alday, a Republican, told The Clarion-Ledger he was against increased funding for education, in particular funding to improve literacy. During his explanation, Alday said he comes "from a town where all the blacks are getting food stamps and what I call 'welfare crazy checks.' They don't work."

Alday also told the newspaper about a time he visited an emergency room.

“I liked to died. I laid in there for hours because they (black people) were in there being treated for gunshots," Alday was quoted as saying.

Alday didn't deny the comments attributed to him. However, he said he was not a racist.

"I am definitely not a racist, at all," Alday told Mississippi News Now. "Because, I mean, I get along with everybody. And I've spent a lot of time helping people."

Alday blamed Clarion-Ledger reporter Jerry Mitchell for quoting his remarks out of context.

"The interview, he just took me out of context," Alday said. "He asked for one thing and started asking another thing."

Alday elaborated in a followup story with the Clarion-Ledger.

"[Mitchell] asked me a question back to when I was in law enforcement," Alday said. "I have a way of talking and saying, 'take this off the record.'"

Alday also said he had no problem with African-Americans.

"Yes, it's true that most of the blacks in my hometown are on welfare," Alday told the newspaper. "But they're good people. I don't have anything against anybody. I'm a straight-up guy. In my little town they had little civil rights walks and I was with them. I'm with everybody."

State Republicans are distancing themselves from Alday.

“Rep. Alday is solely responsible for his remarks,” Gov. Phil Bryant told The Associated Press. “I strongly reject his comments condemning any Mississippian because of their race. Those days are long past.”

“I condemn the comments recently made by Rep. Gene Alday,” House Speaker Philip Gunn told AP. "They do not reflect the views of the Republican Party, nor of the leadership of the House of Representatives.”






Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: smooth_operator on February 17, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
What do you mean, correct? What would you consider correct? Say, for example, 51% of black people in his town were unemployed or collect some type of entitlement money from the government would that make his statements correct? What about 80%? 99%? Where do you draw the line, and say yeah he's right?

Is it possible to say something that is both true and racist or does truth remove the racism from any statement?

What if he had said something like, "Rather than continue to pour money into a system that seems to encourage people in the area I represent to rely on the government rather than their own means, I would rather fund a study to determine why the African American culture in my area doesn't seem to value education and employment and possibly begin to change the trends that have kept such a large segment of society near the poverty line."  Would that have been racist?

I don't know the answer to any of those questions, but you would have to answer them in order to answer yours.
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 17, 2015, 07:52:42 PM
I read this book in 2004. It's fairly accurate, but has some errors.

http://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Sams-Plantation-Government-Enslaves-ebook/dp/B002CT0TYO#reader_B002CT0TYO (http://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Sams-Plantation-Government-Enslaves-ebook/dp/B002CT0TYO#reader_B002CT0TYO)

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Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: Token on February 17, 2015, 08:35:47 PM
What do you mean, correct? What would you consider correct? Say, for example, 51% of black people in his town were unemployed or collect some type of entitlement money from the government would that make his statements correct? What about 80%? 99%? Where do you draw the line, and say yeah he's right?

Is it possible to say something that is both true and racist or does truth remove the racism from any statement?

What if he had said something like, "Rather than continue to pour money into a system that seems to encourage people in the area I represent to rely on the government rather than their own means, I would rather fund a study to determine why the African American culture in my area doesn't seem to value education and employment and possibly begin to change the trends that have kept such a large segment of society near the poverty line."  Would that have been racist?

I don't know the answer to any of those questions, but you would have to answer them in order to answer yours.

Does everything have to be about statistics with you people?
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: smooth_operator on February 17, 2015, 08:54:27 PM
Does everything have to be about statistics with you people?

Just FYI I'm pro-reparations
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 17, 2015, 11:08:23 PM
What do you mean, correct? What would you consider correct? Say, for example, 51% of black people in his town were unemployed or collect some type of entitlement money from the government would that make his statements correct? What about 80%? 99%? Where do you draw the line, and say yeah he's right?

Is it possible to say something that is both true and racist or does truth remove the racism from any statement?

What if he had said something like, "Rather than continue to pour money into a system that seems to encourage people in the area I represent to rely on the government rather than their own means, I would rather fund a study to determine why the African American culture in my area doesn't seem to value education and employment and possibly begin to change the trends that have kept such a large segment of society near the poverty line."  Would that have been racist?

I don't know the answer to any of those questions, but you would have to answer them in order to answer yours.
What? Do I look like one of your suspects or something? I'll do the questioning here friend. You just start answering.
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: smooth_operator on February 17, 2015, 11:58:18 PM
 :puke:
What? Do I look like one of your suspects or something? I'll do the questioning here friend. You just start answering.

I can see now that you aren't taking repairing race relations in our country seriously
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: Godfather on February 18, 2015, 08:42:22 AM
I stopped reading after      î… 

Because I don't know Swahili.
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: bgreene on February 18, 2015, 08:46:51 AM
I stopped reading after      î… 

Because I don't know Swahili.

you missed out
Title: Re: Racist Remarks Question
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 18, 2015, 09:07:17 AM
I stopped reading after      î… 

Because I don't know Swahili.

Most Swahilians I know can't read anyway and get "crazy" welfare checks.