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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: wesfau2 on October 13, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
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So, I'm having a weird problem with my home network.
Linksys WRT110 router connects PC, phone and tablet wirelessly. PS3 is hard-wired.
As long as that setup remains stable, I have zero issues.
If, however, a strange device tries to access the network (neighbor's laptop, GF's laptop, etc), then everything is disconnected. Well, it's all still connected (with a full signal) to the router, but no connection to the internet is available.
If I reset the modem/router, then the original setup works.
Is this some sort of issue with newer items having a wireless "n" signal and my router not knowing what to do with it? Why wouldn't it just not allow the new item and leave the other connections untouched?
Is my only hope of correcting this to update my router (which isn't all that old, actually).
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Try Disabling uPnp on your router.
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Try Disabling uPnp on your router.
I don't know what that implicates. I know where to do it...but will there be any unintended consequences?
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I don't know what that implicates. I know where to do it...but will there be any unintended consequences?
Personally, I think it's useless to me. You may think you need it if you are a big gamer.
Here: See if this helps
http://kb.linksys.com/Linksys/GetArticle.aspx?docid=a7347c8b4e6744dd96864d33ffa79694_17371.xml&pid=80&converted=0 (http://kb.linksys.com/Linksys/GetArticle.aspx?docid=a7347c8b4e6744dd96864d33ffa79694_17371.xml&pid=80&converted=0)
http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-disable-upnp-as-tens-of-millions-at-risk-7000010512/ (http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-disable-upnp-as-tens-of-millions-at-risk-7000010512/)
Perhaps the fact that too many ports being open is an issue with that router. Other than ease of opening new ports, I don't see it's usefulness.
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Weskie, if you take any bit of advice from the tinfoil dude, then well, may God have mercy on your network.
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Personally, I think it's useless to me. You may think you need it if you are a big gamer.
<snicker>
Look man he already said he has a PS3 on the network so you know he doesn't game.
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I assume you're not getting a notification on your PC about an IP conflict? If not, I guess it could still be an IP conflict with your phone or PS3, and those devices wouldn't show an IP conflict notification.
If you know how to set a DHCP reservation for each of your devices on the router, I'd try that.
If that's not the issue, then it may be a compatibility issue between brands of hardware or hardware that is outdated and can't handle a new signal or multiple types of signals at once. I had a similar issue several years back and could only fix it by upgrading the router.
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If one of the already connected devices are set with a static IP, and that static IP is in the DHCP range that has been set on your router, then that could be an issue. What happens is that the router may be trying to assign an IP address via DHCP to a "new" device, but can't because something else is using it. I've seen routers freak out because of that before. Along those same lines, VV had some pretty sound advice in suggesting using DHCP reservation for your devices.
Also, if you're connecting devices that have static IP settings putting the device on a different LAN segment than your home network, then it will connect to the wireless but won't get internet. For example, if your home network is set in the 192.168.1.X range, but your device's wireless adapter is set in the 10.0.0.X range, you're not going to get internet on that device.
I don't think UPNP is that much of an issue, because you would more than likely be having a problem with EVERYTHING if it were.
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If one of the already connected devices are set with a static IP, and that static IP is in the DHCP range that has been set on your router, then that could be an issue. What happens is that the router may be trying to assign an IP address via DHCP to a "new" device, but can't because something else is using it. I've seen routers freak out because of that before. Along those same lines, VV had some pretty sound advice in suggesting using DHCP reservation for your devices.
Also, if you're connecting devices that have static IP settings putting the device on a different LAN segment than your home network, then it will connect to the wireless but won't get internet. For example, if your home network is set in the 192.168.1.X range, but your device's wireless adapter is set in the 10.0.0.X range, you're not going to get internet on that device.
I don't think UPNP is that much of an issue, because you would more than likely be having a problem with EVERYTHING if it were.
Can you dumb this down for me? I'd prefer to not have to buy a new router.
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I assume you're not getting a notification on your PC about an IP conflict? If not, I guess it could still be an IP conflict with your phone or PS3, and those devices wouldn't show an IP conflict notification.
If you know how to set a DHCP reservation for each of your devices on the router, I'd try that.
If that's not the issue, then it may be a compatibility issue between brands of hardware or hardware that is outdated and can't handle a new signal or multiple types of signals at once. I had a similar issue several years back and could only fix it by upgrading the router.
With any remotely new router you shouldn't be having to do any of this. If you are having to be a "programmer" in order to simply connect to your router or have it operate correctly, then its probably outdated.
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With any remotely new router you shouldn't be having to do any of this. If you are having to be a "programmer" in order to simply connect to your router or have it operate correctly, then its probably outdated.
That's what I figured.
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I say call Nick Burns, the company's computer guy.
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I say call Nick Burns, the company's computer guy.
He'll fix your computer, and then make fun of you.
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Sometimes, when my computer starts acting up, I take it outside for a day or two. It's kind of like putting it into time out. If that doesn't work, open up the back of the unit where the circuit board is and brush on a liberal amount of axle grease. I try to do this twice a year, depending on how much I've been using my computer.
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Sometimes, when my computer starts acting up, I take it outside for a day or two. It's kind of like putting it into time out. If that doesn't work, open up the back of the unit where the circuit board is and brush on a liberal amount of axle grease. I try to do this twice a year, depending on how much I've been using my computer.
Well see this is where you are fucking up, it's all ball bearings these days.
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Well see this is where you are fudgeing up, it's all ball bearings these days.
Oh, I know how to pack a ball alright. I just grease the shaft down and start packing it hard. I've done this numerous times. You should see how fast I can go. Like a damn jack hammer packing it in there.
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Well see this is where you are fucking up, it's all ball bearings these days.
Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.
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Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.
Yeah, why don't you guys go down to the gym and pump each other.
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Well see this is where you are fucking up, it's all ball bearings these days.
Perhaps he needs a refresher course.
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With any remotely new router you shouldn't be having to do any of this.
I bought a router a few weeks ago that caused IP conflicts to occur. Releasing/refreshing the IP fixed this, and the router had no issues with assigning IPs after that, but I still added some DHCP reservations just to make sure.
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Can you dumb this down for me? I'd prefer to not have to buy a new router.
If you mean dumb down the concept, each device is identified by an IP, which is just a set of numbers. If two devices are assigned the same IP number on your wireless network, it can create issues.
By assigning a static IP or DHCP reservation, you are insuring that the device(s) gets the same IP number(s) each time it connects to the router, and therefore prevents any potential conflicts.
However, I somehow doubt it's an IP conflict, unless the conflict doesn't involve your PC. If it involved your PC, a notification would pop up telling you that there is an IP conflict, so you would know it. If the conflict is between your phone and a tablet, however, I don't know that either of those devices are set up to give you any notifications about IP conflicts, so it's possible that there is still an IP conflict issue.
If you mean dumb down how to actually create static IPs or DHCP reservations, well...that depends on what router you have, as each has a different method or menu location for changing that.
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I went the lazy route: new router.
Problem solved.
Thanks for the effort, but I don't understand anything you geeks are talking about.
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I went the lazy route: new router.
Problem solved.
Thanks for the effort, but I don't understand anything you geeks are talking about.
He said close your eyes and open your mouth.
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He said close your eyes and open your mouth.
That's all I heard too.
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I went the lazy route: new router.
Problem solved.
Thanks for the effort, but I don't understand anything you geeks are talking about.
Finally. A man that takes charge around here. Cuts right through the problem and throws enough money at it to make the issue just go away,,,
I want to party with you, man...