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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: WiregrassTiger on September 23, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
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Two things: 1. I hope that I never kill anyone over a job or a hoe. 2. I hope I'm packing my heat if I'm ever in a building when some deranged lone honkey comes in to shoot up the place. 3. What in the hell are "hundreds" of police officers doing on the scene? I can tell you what they are doing. Wasting our tax dollars and gawking like we do when we pass a wreck. That's ridiculous. They need a few investigators to axe questions.
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/09/birmingham_police_on_scene_of.html#incart_big-photo (http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/09/birmingham_police_on_scene_of.html#incart_big-photo)
UPS shooter, fired Monday, returned day later to kill supervisors at Birmingham facility
BIRMINGHAM, Alabama --Three people are dead -- including the gunman -- after a shooting this morning at a UPS facility in Inglenook, according to Birmingham officials.
The incident happened just before 9:30 a.m. as police received multiple calls of an active shooter at 4601 Inglenook Lane, the customer service center and warehouse. "Patrol units responded quickly, they rallied and made entry,'' said Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper. "They were able to clear the building and, of course, during the shooting, multiple employees exited the facility."
Once the officers arrived and entered the building, they found three dead people inside the business. "It appears it was the shooter still wearing his UPS uniform and two other employees,'' the chief said.
The shooter is believed to be a 45-year-old white male from the Argo area. He is reportedly married, and a father. The gun used in the shootings was still underneath his body when police arrived.
When they came to work today they had no idea it would be their last day alive on earth," A.C. Roper.
Police this afternoon confirmed the shooter was fired from his job."He received his final papers Monday,'' said police spokesman Lt. Sean Edwards. "Today he was not expected to return to work because he was no longer employed there."
All three deceased were adult white males, and their names have not been released. The two victims were supervisors at UPS, and police said they believe they were specifically targeted in the shooting.
It is believed the gunman shot himself.
Roper said no one else was injured. Police did not fire any shots, Roper said, nor did they hear any shots. "When the officers arrived in the parking lot and made entry, the incident in all respect was already over,'' he said.
Hundreds of police officers from Birmingham and Tarrant flocked to this morning's scene. Residents of nearby office buildings, and some family members of UPS workers, somberly gathered outside watching the incident unfold.
Roper said no one else inside was injured other than those who died. "We do have people who are extremely upset about what they saw today and what they witnessed,'' Roper said. "We want to make sure we support them."
They were taken by bus to Boutwell Auditorium, where police have blocked off the streets around there as counselors there meet with employees.
Roper said the investigation will be methodical. "We'll be digging into the work history, into the background, also talking to family members and these other employees who may be able to shed some information on what happened today,'' he said. "We have a pretty good idea about what transpired inside the business."
"We want to make sure we get a good picture of what led up to today and what we can do in the future to prevent it,'' Roper said.
"It is extremely troubling for the city, for the families involved. When they came to work today they had no idea it would be their last day alive on earth," Roper said. "They were just people working at their jobs."
As a precautionary measure, the campus of Springville elementary and middle schools were briefly placed on lock down because there is a connection between a person involved in the shooting and a child at the school, St. Clair County officials said. Authorities later confirmed there were family members at the schools when the shooting happened.
"It was just a precaution in case he was still at large," said Phillip Johnson, facilities manager for the county school system.
The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is also on the scene at UPS. ATF officials said they are providing technical support, and any guns used in the shooting will be traced as well as submitted through NIBIN to determine if they had been used in any other shooting.
Birmingham police, ATF and St. Clair sheriff's deputies are on a secondary scene in an Argo-area subdivision where the alleged shooter lives. Lawmen have roped off the neighborhood and blocked entrance to the street.
Friends and family members of the alleged shooter gathered outside his home. Several people were taken from the scene by police, presumably for questioning.
"We are deeply saddened by today's events and offer our condolences to the families and employees impacted by today's tragedy. Chief Roper and the BPD have our full support as we investigate and get answers for all involved," said Mayor William Bell.
Gov. Robert Bentley also issued the following statement: "Dianne and I are saddened to learn about the deadly shooting at the UPS Center in Birmingham. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and co-workers of those who died this morning.
I was briefed on the active shooter situation by the Alabama Secretary of Law Enforcement just moments after it occurred. I commend the quick and efficient response of Birmingham Chief A.C. Roper and his staff at the Birmingham Police Department. Today's incident is a reminder of the importance of law enforcement training to respond to active shooters.
State law enforcement resources are available and ready to assist if needed as investigators work to determine a cause in this deadly shooting."
AL.com staffers Joe Songer, Bill Thornton and Mike Smith contributed to this report.
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Police this afternoon confirmed the shooter was fired from his job."He received his final papers Monday,'' said police spokesman Lt. Sean Edwards. "Today he was not expected to return to work because he was no longer employed there."
Thank God Sherlock Holmes is on the case.
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Locked mini's school down for a while today because the guy had kids there.
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Locked mini's school down for a while today because the guy had kids there.
Oh stop trying to bring attention to yourself. It's all about you, isn't it?
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Oh stop trying to bring attention to yourself. It's all about you, isn't it?
Well in all fairness it is pretty hard to see anything else of his.
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Alls I'm saying is that it is a sad situation. Permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Alls I'm saying is that it is a sad situation. Permanent solution to a temporary problem.
In alls seriousness, that's the troof. I worked for a company years ago and had a manager that stayed on everyone's ass. Was talking about it one day with a co-worker and he said something that was pretty deep and stayed with me all these years. Incredible advice. He asked, "You know what I'm gonna' do if he fires me?"
No...what?
"I'm gonna' go find another job."
Whoa!!!
Never understood the whole concept of something bad happened to me so the obvious solution is kill everyone involved along with blowing my own brains out.
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In alls seriousness, that's the troof. I worked for a company years ago and had a manager that stayed on everyone's ass. Was talking about it one day with a co-worker and he said something that was pretty deep and stayed with me all these years. Incredible advice. He asked, "You know what I'm gonna' do if he fires me?"
No...what?
"I'm gonna' go find another job."
Whoa!!!
Never understood the whole concept of something bad happened to me so the obvious solution is kill everyone involved along with blowing my own brains out.
Now, I'm not above whipping a man's ass over such, mind you. Just never considered snuffing them out in these circumstances. I've whipped a many a mans ass though.
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Now, I'm not above whipping a man's ass over such, mind you. Just never considered snuffing them out in these circumstances. I've whipped a many a mans ass though.
What does gay S&M sex have to do with any of this?
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In alls seriousness, that's the troof. I worked for a company years ago and had a manager that stayed on everyone's ass. Was talking about it one day with a co-worker and he said something that was pretty deep and stayed with me all these years. Incredible advice. He asked, "You know what I'm gonna' do if he fires me?"
No...what?
"I'm gonna' go find another job."
Whoa!!!
Never understood the whole concept of something bad happened to me so the obvious solution is kill everyone involved along with blowing my own brains out.
That's because you're not crazy, dude.
You can't assign reasoning and rational thought to instances like this. Homicidal sociopaths may be clever, they may be organized and they are quite often intelligent. They are not sane.
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That's because you're not crazy, dude.
You can't assigned reasoning and rational thought to instances like this. Homicidal sociopaths may be clever, they may be organized and they are quite often intelligent. They are not sane.
I'm beginning to wonder about you. You are either jumping to conclusions and making uninformed determinations or simply not qualified to talk about mental faculties. Either way, this is a stretch, to say the least.
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I'm beginning to wonder about you. You are either jumping to conclusions and making uninformed determinations or simply not qualified to talk about mental faculties. Either way, this is a stretch, to say the least.
Touche. I suppose a more accurate statement would be "you're not that sort of crazy".
I grow weary of talking heads and others attempting to relate to incidents like this with logic and reason. A workplace killer or spree shooter of any sort is not sane. A man waving a knife at passers by is not reasonable. Terrorist suicide bombers are not using reasoning that we understand. If your frame of mind allows you to understand and relate to someone who chooses to murder innocent people you shouldn't be on television behind a desk you should be in a padded cell behind a door.
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Touche. I suppose a more accurate statement would be "you're not that sort of crazy".
I grow weary of talking heads and others attempting to relate to incidents like this with logic and reason. A workplace killer or spree shooter of any sort is not sane. A man waving a knife at passers by is not reasonable. Terrorist suicide bombers are not using reasoning that we understand. If your frame of mind allows you to understand and relate to someone who chooses to murder innocent people you shouldn't be on television behind a desk you should be in a padded cell behind a door.
All b.s. aside, I cannot fathom calculating and carrying out killing someone because I get fired. Someone breaking into my house, attacking me in a road rage case or intentionally and severely harming a loved one--I'm not so certain of my reaction.
People are really quick to blame everyone else for anything bad that happens to them. More than likely, this dude deserved to get fired. You have to be a pretty big fuck up to get fired from a union job. But, even if it was some sort of conspiracy against him, he was obviously a looney bird to react this way. Society is better off without him and it's unfortunate that he couldn't get help before he did this. Even more unfortunate that he took others out with him.
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Whenever I get fired, I will send all of my kids to come live with you guys. Then I will go shoot up the road signs and shit like a gangsta.....from the 70's.
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If simp got fired, he would just impregnate all the significant others of everyone involved. That'll show em.
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Not the livestock, dj
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Not the livestock, dj
Nah, those are only good for tipping.
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If simp got fired, he would just impregnate all the significant others of everyone involved. That'll show em.
They will be regretting their decisions for at least 18 years and then some.
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Nah, those are only good for tipping.
Well to be honest it is harder now. Every time the cows see him with his stool, they run.