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Title: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Townhallsavoy on August 19, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Time for Mike Brown story to join the Syrian Civil War, the situation in Crimea, and the Israel-Hezbollah fighting. 

ISIS has beheaded an American journalist and sent a video of it.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

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(CNN) -- A video released by ISIS shows the beheading of U.S. journalist James Foley and threatens the life of another American if President Barack Obama doesn't end military operations in Iraq.
In the video posted Tuesday on YouTube, Foley is seen kneeling next to a man dressed in black. He reads a message, presumably scripted by his captors, that his "real killer'' is America.
"I wish I had more time. I wish I could have the hope for freedom to see my family once again," Foley can be heard saying in the video.
 W.H. reacts to journalist's beheading
He is then shown being beheaded.
The National Security Council is aware of the video.
"The intelligence community is working as quickly as possible to determine its authenticity. If genuine, we are appalled by the brutal murder of an innocent American journalist and we express our deepest condolences to his family and friends. We will provide more information when it is available," NSC spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said.
What to know about ISIS
Foley disappeared in November 2012 in northwest Syria, near the border with Turkey. He was reportedly forced into a vehicle by gunmen; he was not heard from again. At the time of his disappearance, he was working for the GlobalPost.
On Tuesday afternoon, the Facebook group set up to support Foley and his family, "Free James Foley," wrote, "We know that many of you are looking for confirmation or answers. Please be patient until we all have more information, and keep the Foleys in your thoughts and prayers."
The video also shows another American journalist. His life is said by the militants in the video to hang in the balance, depending on what Obama does next.
U.S. Official: ISIS 'credible alternative to al Qaeda'
The journalist is believed to be Steven Sotloff, who was kidnapped at the Syria-Turkey border in 2013. Sotloff is a contributor to Time and Foreign Policy magazines.
As a freelancer, Foley picked up work for a number of major media outlets, including Agence France-Presse and GlobalPost.
"On behalf of John and Diane Foley, and also GlobalPost, we deeply appreciate all of the messages of sympathy and support that have poured in since the news of Jim's possible execution first broke," Philip Balboni, GlobalPost CEO and co-founder, said in a published statement.
"We have been informed that the FBI is in the process of evaluating the video posted by the Islamic State to determine if it is authentic. Until we have that determination, we will not be in a position to make any further statement. We ask for your prayers for Jim and his family."
Foley had previously been taken captive in Libya. He was detained there in April 2011 along with three other reporters and released six weeks later.
Who is the ISIS?
Afterward, he said that what saddened him most was knowing that he was causing his family to worry.
Foley grew up in New Hampshire and graduated from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism in 2008. Like other young journalists who came of age after the September 11 terror attacks and American wars overseas, Foley was drawn to Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas of conflict.
Friends described Foley as fair, curious and impressively even-tempered.
"Everybody, everywhere, takes a liking to Jim as soon as they meet him," journalist Clare Morgana Gillis wrote in a blog post about him in May 2013, six months after he disappeared in Syria.
"Men like him for his good humor and tendency to address everyone as 'bro' or 'homie' or 'dude' after the first handshake. Women like him for his broad smile, broad shoulders, and because, well, women just like him."
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on August 19, 2014, 08:05:39 PM
I guess the apology tour, reset, leading form behind, or whatever you call this baffoon's foreign policy hasn't worked out very well after all.

Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: bottomfeeder on August 19, 2014, 09:55:56 PM
The dumpster fire started thousand of years ago, and we have no business meddling in foreign affairs.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: bgreene on August 20, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
We should have fought the war like a war should be fought in the first place. Not like Vietnam or OIF.  Those wars were fought behind the desk in Washington.  I'm not saying that we should have gone to war in the first place, but since we did, we should have fought it like a war we were trying to win.  Not the hearts and minds of the people.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 20, 2014, 08:57:55 AM
The dumpster fire started thousand of years ago, and we have no business meddling in foreign affairs.

Meddling, no. But you do know ISIS happened because of good people doing NOTHING right?

There is a right way to withdrawal from a conflict and exit an area.....Barry absolutely screwed the exit up. Everyone who was anyone advised him this was not the way to do it. You do not annouce dates, positions, numbers, etc publically. You basically give the enemy your game plan. And they act on it.

Just to be fair...Bush should have never had us there to begn with. It was a total waste of lives and money. But we do have every right to keep a eye on, and act upon serious threats against us. And these people (ISIS) have declared us, Israel, Kurds and others their enemy. And that they are coming. Doing nothing in response is not a viable response. See Chamberlain and Hitler late 1930's.

Whether the Ron Paul/Alex Jones gullable moonbats want to actually believe history or not, these guys (Islamists) have been at this for 1300 years. Their mindset and mission has NOTHING to do with American occupation or meddling. Its merely given them an excuse to justify their henious acts the last 50-60 years. The jihad has been going on in the name of Islam since the 7th/8th century.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Kaos on August 20, 2014, 09:01:46 AM
Why is she being so mean?  Menopause?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUJarhead on August 20, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
We should have fought the war like a war should be fought in the first place. Not like Vietnam or OIF.  Those wars were fought behind the desk in Washington.  I'm not saying that we should have gone to war in the first place, but since we did, we should have fought it like a war we were trying to win.  Not the hearts and minds of the people.

Exactly.  We're trained to kill people and break things.  If you don't want things broken or people killed, don't send us in.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Saniflush on August 20, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
Exactly.  We're trained to kill people and break things.  If you don't want things broken or people killed, don't send us in.

You don't say much sir but when you do it's direct and to the point and I salute you for it.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 20, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
There is a right way to withdrawal from a conflict and exit an area.....Barry absolutely screwed the exit up. Everyone who was anyone advised him this was not the way to do it. You do not annouce dates, positions, numbers, etc publically. You basically give the enemy your game plan. And they act on it.


This right here from GH^^^  Been saying this for a while.  Why the hell we announce our every move to the world just blows my mind.  Hold on Machmud.  The infidel American dogs are leaving in 2 weeks.  We wait and blow shit up then.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: CCTAU on August 20, 2014, 11:14:26 AM
Exactly.  We're trained to kill people and break things.  If you don't want things broken or people killed, don't send us in.

Otherwise, you would all be MPs....
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 20, 2014, 11:20:34 AM
The photos going around show him on his knees with the camel jockey behind him.  One of them shows the jockey holding a knife with about a 6" blade.  Don't know if that's what they used but if so....holy shit that's one hell of a bad way to go. 
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 20, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
There is a right way to withdrawal from a conflict and exit an area.....Barry absolutely screwed the exit up. Everyone who was anyone advised him this was not the way to do it. You do not annouce dates, positions, numbers, etc publically. You basically give the enemy your game plan. And they act on it.


This right here from GH^^^  Been saying this for a while.  Why the hell we announce our every move to the world just blows my mind.  Hold on Machmud.  The infidel American dogs are leaving in 2 weeks.  We wait and blow shit up then.

When, what, where, and how much. Those fuckers pay attention to this shit. And act accordingly.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 20, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
How you fight a war:  To win

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/world-war-ii-the-fall-of-imperial-japan/100175/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/world-war-ii-the-fall-of-imperial-japan/100175/)     
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 20, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
Patton and MacArthur.....balls.....titanium.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUJarhead on August 20, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
Patton and MacArthur.....balls.....titanium.

Don't forget Chesty.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Saniflush on August 20, 2014, 02:30:01 PM
Don't forget Chesty.

Yes, they both wore Chesty pajamas.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 20, 2014, 02:39:56 PM
Don't forget Chesty.
Agree.

Was more refering to how the guys over the theaters back then handled war fare. War was war. And meant to be won.

Favorite Chesty quote: "They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29 to 1. They can't get away from us now!"
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Saniflush on August 20, 2014, 02:42:54 PM
Agree.

Was more refering to how the guys over the theaters back then handled war fare. War was war. And meant to be won.

Favorite Chesty quote: "They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29 to 1. They can't get away from us now!"

But this one is the truest.

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“Our Country won’t go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won’t
be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
women and breed a hardier race!”
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUTiger1 on August 20, 2014, 02:44:41 PM
Meddling, no. But you do know ISIS happened because of good people doing NOTHING right?

There is a right way to withdrawal from a conflict and exit an area.....Barry absolutely screwed the exit up. Everyone who was anyone advised him this was not the way to do it. You do not annouce dates, positions, numbers, etc publically. You basically give the enemy your game plan. And they act on it.

Just to be fair...Bush should have never had us there to begn with. It was a total waste of lives and money. But we do have every right to keep a eye on, and act upon serious threats against us. And these people (ISIS) have declared us, Israel, Kurds and others their enemy. And that they are coming. Doing nothing in response is not a viable response. See Chamberlain and Hitler late 1930's.

Whether the Ron Paul/Alex Jones gullable moonbats want to actually believe history or not, these guys (Islamists) have been at this for 1300 years. Their mindset and mission has NOTHING to do with American occupation or meddling. Its merely given them an excuse to justify their henious acts the last 50-60 years. The jihad has been going on in the name of Islam since the 7th/8th century.

Ummm, I thought the Ron Paul Revolutionaries touted the line "they have been doing this since the beginning of time, why should we get involved?".  It's not that they didn't believe in the history, they just chose to say basically, "let them kill themselves like they always have.".
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 20, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
Ummm, I thought the Ron Paul Revolutionaries touted the line "they have been doing this since the beginning of time, why should we get involved?".  It's not that they didn't believe in the history, they just chose to say basically, "let them kill themselves like they always have.".

I usually agree with Von Mises on most things (mainly economics) but on foreign policy they are not sure what they want to believe. They really oversimplify things.

http://mises.org/daily/2588 (http://mises.org/daily/2588)

The difference in now is that we are the target (mainly because of ties with Israel and high Christian population). Back then, other countries in the region were the target of Islam crusades. When you are square in the crosshairs of people who behead folks for fun, its wise to at least get your head out of the sand.

Gop is too interventionist.

Liberals and Lbertarians turn too much of a blind eye.

Reagan toed the line nicely IMHO.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUTiger1 on August 20, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
I usually agree with Von Mises on most things (mainly economics) but on foreign policy they are not sure what they want to believe. They really oversimplify things.

http://mises.org/daily/2588 (http://mises.org/daily/2588)

The difference in now is that we are the target (mainly because of ties with Israel and high Christian population). Back then, other countries in the region were the target of Islam crusades. When you are square in the crosshairs of people who behead folks for fun, its wise to at least get your head out of the sand.

Gop is too interventionist.

Liberals and Lbertarians turn too much of a blind eye.

Reagan toed the line nicely IMHO.

Agree, Reagan was great with foreign policy.  GOP, whatever they are now, are too hawkish and yes Libertarians turn too much of a blind eye.  In a perfect world that works, but since we don't manufacture anything for ourselves anymore and have to have a world presence we can't be isolationist.  Even if by a miracle Paul had been elected he would have never got any of his foreign policy through congress.  Damn good on economic and domestic policy, but foreign policy, not so much.  One reason I was afraid to cast my ballot for the man.  I knew his foreign policy wouldn't pass and I also knew that AL was going red no matter what.

I was just carrying on about the Ron Paul Revolutionaries to get a rise out of own Alex Jones.  I haven't seen him get on a good tangent and post off the wall links in a while. 
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: bottomfeeder on August 20, 2014, 10:05:54 PM
Meddling, no. But you do know ISIS happened because of good people doing NOTHING right?

There is a right way to withdrawal from a conflict and exit an area.....Barry absolutely screwed the exit up. Everyone who was anyone advised him this was not the way to do it. You do not annouce dates, positions, numbers, etc publically. You basically give the enemy your game plan. And they act on it.

Just to be fair...Bush should have never had us there to begn with. It was a total waste of lives and money. But we do have every right to keep a eye on, and act upon serious threats against us. And these people (ISIS) have declared us, Israel, Kurds and others their enemy. And that they are coming. Doing nothing in response is not a viable response. See Chamberlain and Hitler late 1930's.

Whether the Ron Paul/Alex Jones gullable moonbats want to actually believe history or not, these guys (Islamists) have been at this for 1300 years. Their mindset and mission has NOTHING to do with American occupation or meddling. Its merely given them an excuse to justify their henious acts the last 50-60 years. The jihad has been going on in the name of Islam since the 7th/8th century.

Didn't Barry ask for $50 million to fund ISIS?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 21, 2014, 08:30:53 AM
Didn't Barry ask for $50 million to fund ISIS?

This is true. Hence, he did nothing to stop any threat.

But wait, I said GOOD people right? Well damn, I was totally wrong.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Townhallsavoy on August 21, 2014, 12:30:52 PM
Didn't Barry ask for $50 million to fund ISIS?

$500 million actually. 

It was to fund and train rebels against Syria.  Not necessarily ISIS but some of the rebels would have been connected to ISIS and thus ISIS would have their hands on some if not all of the money. 

Why do we keep the Middle East in a constant state of disarray?  This isn't a Obama issue.  We've done this for decades - arm rebels to topple governments and sometimes (Iraq) topple them ourselves. 
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 21, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
$500 million actually. 

It was to fund and train rebels against Syria.  Not necessarily ISIS but some of the rebels would have been connected to ISIS and thus ISIS would have their hands on some if not all of the money. 

Why do we keep the Middle East in a constant state of disarray?  This isn't a Obama issue.  We've done this for decades - arm rebels to topple governments and sometimes (Iraq) topple them ourselves.
We give them guns so that we can go to war against them a few years later. If they didn't have guns, we would be shooting unarmed people. That would not be fair.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: smooth_operator on August 21, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
We give them guns so that we can go to war against them a few years later. If they didn't have guns, we would be shooting unarmed people. That would not be fair.

Might cause a riot, in fact
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 21, 2014, 01:01:06 PM
Might cause a riot, in fact
Well actually, riots could never happen in the U.S. but in other countries, yes.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 21, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
Might cause a riot, in fact

This hussel did not go unnoticed.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 21, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
Might cause a riot, in fact


So a lot of there people don't seem to have jobs and can just run the street?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on August 21, 2014, 01:21:35 PM
$500 million actually. 

It was to fund and train rebels against Syria.  Not necessarily ISIS but some of the rebels would have been connected to ISIS and thus ISIS would have their hands on some if not all of the money. 

Why do we keep the Middle East in a constant state of disarray?  This isn't a Obama issue.  We've done this for decades - arm rebels to topple governments and sometimes (Iraq) topple them ourselves.

Carter, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama - all suck at this game. Even LBJ was the same way in Southeast Asia when Kennedy (or Goldwater) would have stayed out of the quagmire. Already bad places that we put in disarray worse than we find it. Hey look there's a fire, lets pour some gas on it. Cool.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Vandy Vol on August 21, 2014, 04:37:12 PM
We give them guns so that we can go to war against them a few years later. If they didn't have guns, we would be shooting unarmed people. That would not be fair.

Pretty much...this has been done for decades now, and by both sides of the aisle.  Looks like we never learn.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: bottomfeeder on August 21, 2014, 08:48:54 PM
Carter, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama - all suck at this game. Even LBJ was the same way in Southeast Asia when Kennedy (or Goldwater) would have stayed out of the quagmire. Already bad places that we put in disarray worse than we find it. Hey look there's a fire, lets pour some gas on it. Cool.

I agree 100% with your premise.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Saniflush on August 22, 2014, 07:02:58 AM
Hey look there's a fire, lets pour some gas on it. Cool.

This man can do it...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NkqsixAq1LA/T4r-91clfsI/AAAAAAAAARw/lgRdEeizdlQ/s1600/Hellfighters++-++1968.jpg)
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: CCTAU on August 22, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
So. Did the great ONE knock out ISIS on the 8th hole or the 16th?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUJarhead on August 22, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
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Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 02, 2014, 04:20:46 PM
Did it again.  from teh foxnewz. I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.

An Internet video purports to show the beheading of US reporter Steven Sotloff by the Islamic State extremist group.

The global terror intelligence firm SITE first reported the release of the 2-minute video, titled "A Second Message to America," in which Sotloff, a 31-year-old freelance journalist, speaks to the camera before a cloaked Islamic State fighter begins to decapitate him.

“I’m sure you know exactly who I am by now and why I am appearing,” Sotloff said under apparent duress. "Obama, your foreign policy of intervention in Iraq was supposed to be for preservation of American lives and interests, so why is it that I am paying the price of your interference with my life?”

The video then cuts to the masked militant warning that as long as U.S. missiles “continue to strike our people, our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people.” He also threatens the life of British captive David Cawthorne Haines.

"I'm back, Obama," said the left-handed executioner with a British accent who appears to be the same man who killed Foley. "And I'm back because of your arrogant foreign policy towards the Islamic State."

The gruesome video then shows Sotloff's severed head lying next to his body.

Government officials could not immediately verify the authenticity of the video. But Barak Barfi, a spokesman for the Sotloff family, indicated the family fears the worst.

"The family knows of this horrific tragedy and is grieving privately," Barfi told The Associated Press. "There will be no public comment from the family during this difficult time."

The grim video comes just days after Sotloff's mother, Shirley, directly addressed the leader of the Islamic State last week, saying her son shouldn't pay for U.S. government actions in the Middle East and that he cared about the weak and oppressed as a journalist.

"I want what every mother wants, to live to see her children's children," she said last week. "I plead with you to grant me this."

Shirley Sotloff cited by name the leader of the Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has described himself as a caliph intending to lead the Muslim world. She had asked him to show mercy and follow the example of the prophet Muhammad in protecting people of Muslim, Jewish and Christian faiths.

Sotloff was last seen in August 2013 in Syria. He was recently threatened with death by the militants on a video unless the U.S. stopped airstrikes on the group in Iraq. The same video showed the beheading of fellow American journalist James Foley, 45.

Several U.S. officials, including U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., have said they were working behind the scenes to find out more about Sotloff and try to secure his release.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest could not confirm the reports when asked about the video at Tuesday’s press briefing. He noted the administration has been monitoring his situation carefully since threats were first made.

“The United States, as you know, has dedicated significant time and resources to try and rescue Mr. Sotloff,” he said, adding “thoughts and prayers” are with the family.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the intelligence community will work “as quickly as possible” to determine the video’s authenticity.

"If the video is genuine, we are sickened by this brutal act taking the life of another innocent American citizen,” she told reporters.

Pressed by Fox News, Psaki would not say whether this would constitute an act of war. She said the prior execution of journalist James Foley was a “horrific terrorist act,” and was a “motivating” factor for creating a coalition to address the Islamic State.

A spokeswoman for the National Security Council confirmed that the agency had seen the purported video.

"The intelligence community is working as quickly as possible to determine its authenticity," spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said in a statement. "If genuine, we are appalled by the brutal murder of an innocent American journalist and we express our deepest condolences to his family and friends.  We will provide more information when it is available.”

At University of Central Florida, where Sotloff studied journalism from 2002 to 2004, President John Hitt said the school is mourning the loss.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Saniflush on September 03, 2014, 09:13:28 AM
You'll be glad to know that ISIS has apologized.....for releasing the video before they said they would.

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Everyone makes mistakes.

Apparently even murderous terrorist outfits recognize the importance of news embargoes, and they feel just terrible that they let the world see them slicing off Steven Sotloff's head before the agreed-upon release time.

Hey. I used to work in media relations. You can't make mistakes like this if you want to play in the big leagues. Of course, in these times of social media and instantly viral tweets, it's so hard for cabals of brutal murderers to control the flow of information:



    ISIS admitted Tuesday it released a video of a man being beheaded before it was supposed to, it has emerged.

    Vocativ reported that the video - which allegedly shows the killing of Steven Sotloff - was shared through a Twitter account.

    @Khattabyaz warned the first account there had been a mistake, and failed to stop the beheading video from being disseminated, the website reported.

    According to the news site, ISIS then wrote on Justpaste 'A clarification about the mistake was made by "Uyun al-Ummah" account, that has published the video before the official time.

    'The user saw a tweet with the video and thought it was published officially. We tried to remove the video after we understood that his was published by mistake, and we are sorry to the followers of the Islamic State.'

    In a later Twitter message, those responsible apologized and asked fellow jihadis not to 'reproach' them.



I know. It's not funny at all. But the absurdity of the whole thing leaves me at a loss for how to even respond to this. When you're dealing with an enemy this cold, this calculating, this lacking in any sense of morality or decency . . . yeah, I don't even know what to do with it.

And apparently they have no shortage of followers who think it's pretty important that the release of beheading videos be timed just so, such that delicate sensitivities not be upset.

Maybe this will be the thing that gets the media clamoring for Obama to come up with a strategy. You start violating news embargoes, those people are going to be mighty unhappy.

Throughout our history, America has encountered pretty brutal enemies, but it's hard to think of one so completely unconcerned about even the pretense of decency. The only thing ISIS appears to care about is letting the world see there is no limit to its brutality. The only way to respond to that is with relentless force whose only objective is to completely destroy each and every one of these beasts.

But at least they are willing to apologize when they violate their own news embargo. That's big of them.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on September 03, 2014, 09:17:13 AM
She had asked him to show mercy and follow the example of the prophet Muhammad in protecting people of Muslim, Jewish and Christian faiths.

The funny part ^^^

She's obviously drank the Islam kool aid on that one.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 03, 2014, 09:37:34 AM
The "kill 'em all" strategy won't work and is dumb. This thing is growing and they are likely already in the U.S., at least I would think. How do you fight an enemy that you can't see?

I don't know the answer but sitting idle as Barry seems to have chose, isn't going to work either. We need leadership and fast.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUJarhead on September 03, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
The "kill 'em all" strategy won't work and is dumb. This thing is growing and they are likely already in the U.S., at least I would think. How do you fight an enemy that you can't see?

I don't know the answer but sitting idle as Barry seems to have chose, isn't going to work either. We need leadership and fast.

Well, you absolutely won't beat them without boots on the ground.  And no "winning of the hearts."  These guys want to die for their cause, we can arrange that.

I think, however, that the leaders in this campaign need to be the Iraqis and/or Syrians.  If the US goes in and leads, whatever is left when we leave will be ten times worse than ISIS.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on September 03, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
The "kill 'em all" strategy won't work and is dumb. This thing is growing and they are likely already in the U.S., at least I would think. How do you fight an enemy that you can't see?

I don't know the answer but sitting idle as Barry seems to have chose, isn't going to work either. We need leadership and fast.

All of these missing planes. Something to think about.

And yes, they are already here.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUJarhead on September 03, 2014, 10:22:41 AM
All of these missing planes. Something to think about.

And yes, they are already here.

What can a bunch of JV guys do with that???
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on September 03, 2014, 10:27:00 AM
What can a bunch of JV guys do with that???

Same thing JV guys did 13 years ago I guess.

Seems JV is pretty good at beheading people. JV is pretty tough these days.

Maybe they aren't JV. Maybe Barry's foreign policy is worse than his domestic policy (I didn't think that was possible).
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUJarhead on September 03, 2014, 10:30:32 AM
Same thing JV guys did 13 years ago I guess.

Seems JV is pretty good at beheading people. JV is pretty tough these days.

Maybe they aren't JV. Maybe Barry's foreign policy is worse than his domestic policy (I didn't think that was possible).

Letter from Parent of a SEAL killed in the helicopter crashed in 2011.

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After finally choosing to view the barbaric, on-camera beheading by ISIS of freelance war correspondent James Foley, I have been left with a level of rage known only to those of us who have sacrificed unspeakable offerings on the altar of world peace.

My offering was my only son — Aaron Carson Vaughn. Aaron was a member of SEAL Team VI. He was killed in action when a CH47D Chinook, carrying thirty Americans and eight Afghans was shot down in the Tangi River Valley of Afghanistan on Aug. 6, 2011.

Many times over the past three years, I have been asked what drove my son to choose his particular career. What made him want to be a Navy SEAL? My answer is simple.

Aaron Vaughn was a man who possessed the courage to acknowledge evil. And evil, once truly acknowledged, demands response. Perhaps this is why so few are willing to look it in the eye. It is much simpler — much safer — to look the other way.

That is, unless you are the leader of the Free World.

As Commander-in-Chief, your actions — or lack thereof — Mr. President, cost lives. As you bumble about in your golf cart, slapping on a happy face and fist-pounding your buddies, your cowardly lack of leadership has left a gaping hole — not only in America’s security — but the security of the entire globe. Your message has come across loud and clear, sir: You are not up to this job. You know it. We know it. The world knows it.

Please vacate the people’s house and allow a man or woman of courage and substance to seize the reigns of this out-of-control thug-fest and regain the balance we, America, have provided throughout our great history.

Thanks to your “leadership” from whatever multi-million dollar vacation you happen to be on at any given moment, the world is in chaos. What’s been gained, you’ve lost. What’s been lost, you’ve decimated. You’ve demolished our ability to hold the trust of allies. You’ve made a mockery of the title “President.” And you’ve betrayed the nation for which my son and over 1.3 million others have sacrificed their very lives.

But this should come as no surprise, since your wife uttered a vile statement on Feb. 18, 2008, during the primary campaign — one that speaks volumes of your true convictions. “For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country,” she said.

I am sure my deceased son thanks you for that, Mrs. Obama. Oh, and you’re welcome.

Never in my lifetime have I witnessed such despair and such growing fear that the world’s last best hope, America, has finally been dismantled. Perhaps the better word is transformed — fundamentally transformed. Come to think of it, it’s become difficult — if not impossible — to believe things haven’t gone exactly as you planned, Mr. President.

Amazingly, in five short years, your administration has lurched from one disaster to another. You spearheaded the ambitious rush to end the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan — with no plan on how to do so effectively. Also, the release of “the Taliban five” in exchange for one American — without consulting Congress — is also on your shoulders.

You have been at the helm during unprecedented national security leaks — including, but not limited to the outing of SEAL Team VI on the Bin laden raid, the outing of the Pakistani doctor who provided the intelligence for that raid, the outing of Afghanistan’s CIA station chief, and the outing of your personal “kill list” to make you look tough. In addition, 75 percent of American deaths in Afghanistan and 83 percent of Americans-wounded-in-action have occurred on your watch, according to icasualties.org.

And now, we have this recent, heinous event: the beheading of an American citizen by a barbaric organization you foolishly referred to as “the JV team” in your statements to the New Yorker magazine in January.

You, sir, are the JV team. It’s time for you to step down and allow a true leader to restore our honor and protect our sons and daughters.

America has always been exceptional. And she will be again. You, Mr. President, are a bump in our road.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on September 03, 2014, 10:45:19 AM
He is making Neville Chamberlain look like a hawk.

He, at least, eventually acknowledged Hitler was evil and running across Europe at record pace. Although his inaction almost had all of Europe speaking German. Thank goodness Churchill had the gall to make a move to get into power.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: The Prowler on September 04, 2014, 02:17:01 PM
Something doesn't seem right with the beheadings.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 04, 2014, 02:23:35 PM
Something doesn't seem right with the beheadings.

What would that be, pray tell?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on September 04, 2014, 02:32:29 PM
Something doesn't seem right with the beheadings.

Yeah....there is a lot not right with them.

You about to go all bottomfeeder "man didn't really land on the moon" on us?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: CCTAU on September 04, 2014, 04:07:42 PM
Yeah....there is a lot not right with them.

You about to go all bottomfeeder "man didn't really land on the moon" on us?

What. We never landed on the moon?

Poor Mrs. Gorsky!
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUTiger1 on September 05, 2014, 03:06:13 PM
Yeah....there is a lot not right with them.

You about to go all bottomfeeder "man didn't really land on the moon" on us?

Damn right.  I saw it on infowars.   Did you also know that the illuminati had Joan Rivers killed for talking bad about Barry and Michelle?   I read it on the internets so it must be true.  Bonjour.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on September 10, 2014, 10:13:51 AM
So I understand that ISIS means "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria"

what the hell does ISIL mean?
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 10, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
So I understand that ISIS means "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria"

what the hell does ISIL mean?

Ignorant Sand Idiots Losing. 

Or Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. 
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: GH2001 on September 10, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
So I understand that ISIS means "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria"

what the hell does ISIL mean?

The WH refuses to address it as ISIS.

Because it acknowledges ISIS originated out of Syria because of his actions the last 2 years there.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 10, 2014, 11:31:58 AM
I still don't know what Rob Van Winkle has to do with any of this.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 10, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
I still don't know what Rob Van Winkle has to do with any of this.
He is suing an Islamic terrorist organization for song royalties, over unauthorized use of his biggest hit.
Title: Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 10, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
He is suing an Islamic terrorist organization for song royalties, over unauthorized use of his biggest only hit.

fixt