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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on January 28, 2014, 03:42:21 PM
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Stay the fuck out. It's covered in ice. James Spann was wrong!
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Kaos says James Spann is wrong as often as he is, which is never tho.
James Spann said there would just be a "light dusting" in Birmingham and mocked the "hysteria" of being prepared for the weather.
Currently it is pure chaos in Birmingham. Thousands of people stranded in frozen cars on the highways. People abandoning their cars to hike dozens of miles through the snowstorm. A multitude of cars in ditches, flipped over, and even at least one on fire.
Clearly, listening to Spann's infinite meteorological wisdom and scoffing at the idea of preparation in the face of disaster is a good idea.
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I lost a lot of respect for James Spann today. He's been on air telling viewers that we shouldn't be upset about their wrong forecast. That we should move on.
He was way off. This is an epic disaster, and it makes the state look bad. Children are trapped at school. Some kids are trapped on buses. One bus overturned. Numerous wrecks. Thousands of people trapped on roadways and the wind chill is below ten.
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I blame global warming.
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Spann himself had to abandon his car, LULz.
@spann: I have abandoned my vehicle and am now walking to ABC 33/40. About 1 mile; not bad http://pic.twitter.com/hfuIfAJuwj (http://pic.twitter.com/hfuIfAJuwj)
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I blame global warming.
I will in July.
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This is an epic disaster, and it makes the state look bad. Children are trapped at school. Some kids are trapped on buses. One bus overturned. Numerous wrecks. Thousands of people trapped on roadways and the wind chill is below ten.
So, nothing's changed in 200 years in this state. Why start now?
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I blame global warming.
I blame gay marriage.
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I blame gay marriage.
Damn Macklemore
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Kill ALL the weathermen!!! And, in fairness, the weather ladies too. And the transgendered weather peoples.
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Took me 4-1/2 hours to get about 23 miles home...my pops has been on Hwy 280 for over 4 hours he said and has moved 3 miles so far. Light dusting my ass!
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Took me 4-1/2 hours to get about 23 miles home...my pops has been on Hwy 280 for over 4 hours he said and has moved 3 miles so far. Light dusting my ass!
VV will volunteer
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I blame gay marriage.
I blame Auburn beating Alabama in the Iron Bowl. Last time this ice storm happened was in January 2011 just a mere two months after Auburn won the Iron Bowl in 2010. Coincidence?
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It's all about the :bus:
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VV will volunteer
I don't do light dustings, just heavy coats.
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Was there seriously no fucking contingency plan for something like this? No dusty warehouse with a hundred tons of salt and sand? Just in case?
My wife's stuck 30 minutes away on a normal drive. She'll be sleeping at work tonight. I have the baby. And this morning he realized that screaming at the top of his lungs is awesome fun.
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My dad is stuck for the night now at the turn to get to 459 from 280. No gloves...no blanket and a half a tank of gas now.
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bunch of pussies. i tell ya. bunch of pussies.
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Took me from 11:00am until 3:30pm to get from Leeds/Bass Pro Shop area home to Gardendale. The wife tried leaving her work on Lakeshore next to Samford at 10:30 and ended up having to go back to work to spend the night.
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It isn't just Spann and bham. Many cities did the same.
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Etowah County schools released schools at 12:30, then grounded the busses and told parents their children had to be picked up. Yeah, that didnt contribute to any goddam traffic problems. Fucking morons.
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Etowah County schools released schools at 12:30, then grounded the busses and told parents their children had to be picked up. Yeah, that didnt contribute to any goddam traffic problems. Fucking morons.
Same thing happened in Shelby County.
It's one of the reasons this is such a cluster fuck. Hey come get your kids, but oh wait. There's no way for you to get here and you're going to slide into a tree.
I definitely have a newfound respect for single parents. My son just finally went to sleep. The house is a mess. I've eaten once today. God damn.
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Same thing happened in Shelby County.
It's one of the reasons this is such a cluster fuck. Hey come get your kids, but oh wait. There's no way for you to get here and you're going to slide into a tree.
I definitely have a newfound respect for single parents. My son just finally went to sleep. The house is a mess. I've eaten once today. God damn.
Add St. Clair County to that list. Got a text at 10:21 that they were closing at noon. Got another text at 10:45 saying they were wrong, it would be 11:30.
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Same thing happened in Shelby County.
It's one of the reasons this is such a cluster fuck. Hey come get your kids, but oh wait. There's no way for you to get here and you're going to slide into a tree.
I definitely have a newfound respect for single parents. My son just finally went to sleep. The house is a mess. I've eaten once today. God damn.
My 8 year old goes to gifted classes on Tuesday. I told him not to go today. So when I get the message saying come get my kid, I leave work and drive straight there. Then I find out he went to gifted class today, and his bus hasn't made it back to school yet....they aren't able to contact driver to find out where bus is exactly because cell phones are all down. So I have no idea where he is for 20 minutes, just know that he is on a bus somewhere on his way back to his school to be released. The bus makes it to a city PD, and luckily one of our deputies are there, so he asked her if she knew his dad. Deputy then called me and told me where he was. So I then had to drive back down a fucking iced over mountain to go get him from a police department. I was pissed....I still am.
Oh, when I asked him why he went to gifted when I told him not to? School told him he didn't have a choice. Had to go.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvmmIHl8YzY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvmmIHl8YzY#ws)
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I used to play softball with Jim. Dude was very ripped back then. He is no softy.
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Spann only miscalculated the storm by 125 miles no big deal.....
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I spent several hours ferrying children of friends from school to their homes.
Then another couple of hours trying to push/pull/cuss cars up an icy road so they might have a chance to get home to their families. I finally sent them up the left hand side of the median. Cars learned to share one side of a four lane road without hitting each other. Imagine that.
We mostly cleared the parkway. All of this made possible because I have a big ole kiss my ass global warming F250 FX4 Diesel pickup.
I hope tomorrow is much quieter and everybody stays at home. We got about 3-4 inches here in Woodstock, GA. Pretty stuff, but ugly conditions.
And oh yeah. This was all from a "light dusting" also. We still have kids at school tonight too.
Don't blame all of this on Jim Spann. How is he supposed to keep the cows from farting!
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Well I started sending all of my children home yesterdat at 1200. They all made it home fine and I left the shop about 1500 after I had accounted for everyone.
Hate it for those that listened to the weather weenie.
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It was a mess. My wife got stuck on on Old Springville along with 100's of other. I drove until the road became a parking lot and proceeded to walk about 2 miles to meet here and the chil'rens and walk back to the car.
I now have my "I walked 5 miles in the snow uphill......" story that I can tell my g-chil'rens.
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No horror stories from the Wiregrass. Light dusting of snow. A lot of ice but roads are mostly drivable with the exception of bridges and a few other areas. Just made it to work about 30 minutes ago because I couldn't get my car door open. Iced shut.
I wasn't in any hurry, though.
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My mother-in-law spent the night at her office off 31 in Vestavia Hills. Her office is on a pretty steep hills and she said that at 10 the road was fine and at 10:15 it had turned into a ski jump. Her work let out but after watching about 5 cars slide out of control into the highway her coworkers and her decided to ride it out at the office, her boss walked down to a Subway on the highway to buy them all dinner but they were sold out of everything but the veggies.
My father-in-law spent the night at his work at ACIPCO in north Birmingham. He has a 4X4 but after he drove within sight of 65 he just turned around and went back to the factory.
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I'm assuming everything will remain on shutdown today around the state. It's not getting above 30 here today so the ice will stay. Fortunately, it's not too bad here. You can get around.
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I'm assuming everything will remain on shutdown today around the state. It's not getting above 30 here today so the ice will stay. Fortunately, it's not too bad here. You can get around.
I bet you do get around.
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I bet you do get around.
He just has to leave a bit more room when he chases those amberlamps, for extra stopping distance
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He just has to leave a bit more room when he chases those amberlamps, for extra stopping distance
I'm begging people to drive in this. Sure, you'll be fine. As a matter of fact, the roads are easier to navigate if you speed up a little. You get through the ice quicker.
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I'm begging people to drive in this. Sure, you'll be fine. As a matter of fact, the roads are easier to navigate if you speed up a little. You get through the ice quicker.
And it's even better if you slam on your brakes every 10 seconds or so to make sure they still work...
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Atlanta is closed too.
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It was so damn sunny here and I forgot my sunglasses, then the car got hot and I had to turn on the AC so I wouldn't sweat. Almost hit an old lady with a walker.
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Oh, when I asked him why he went to gifted when I told him not to? School told him he didn't have a choice. Had to go.
Maybe he's not so gifted after all.
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It was so damn sunny here and I forgot my sunglasses, then the car got hot and I had to turn on the AC so I wouldn't sweat. Almost hit an old lady with a walker.
Not only that, your diamond shoes are too tight and your wallet is too small for your hundreds.
Now tell us about your nuclear science classes and the teacher with dark glasses.
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My snow day....reposted from the book faces...
Blizz-o-logue 2014: I'm sure my story is similar to many, probably more blessed than many too. Left work in Centreville @ 10am with plans to meet brother for lunch, then go to Brookwood hospital to visit mom. All good until I hit Alabaster. One hour from Hwy 119 at 31 to Arby's promenade where I met up with Shelley to eat. Kicked out of there so they could close at 1pm. Down to see if Hwy 26 to the back entrance to Ballantrae was passable. Hwy 26 closed. Stopped at the Chevron at Hwy 31 and Shelby Co. 26. Picked up by Greg Crews, neighbor, in his 4WD @2pm. He left the comfort of his warm home to get his wife, who was in Hoover at the Super Target, at Hwy 150 and 459. Agreed to let us ride too. Got to his wife, Stacy at 5pm via a most winding route including I65, Riverchase Pkwy, Hwy 31, and Hwy 150, all littered with vehicles and people on foot. Started back. Stopped at Racetrack at Valleydale and 31 at 8pm for fuel for both vehicle and occupants. Decide that the way Greg came out was too hilly (and roads closed), and elect to go to Hwy 11 in Chelsea to cut across to the back entrance to Ballantrae. Wind up having to go all the way down to 280 because back roads blocked by massive car wrecks and abandonments. Arrive home at 3:45am. In the time we were in the truck we could have driven to Orange Beach and back on a good day, but just went from Alabaster, to Hoover, and back to Pelham. Blessings and gratitude list for the day: Neither Shelley or I had a wreck. Neither of us had to abandon our cars on the road. They are parked in a safe lot. Both of us warm, fed, hydrated, and safely riding in a vehicle with a friend who was most giving of his time and resources, and took great pains to not take any chances with our safety to hurry, and got us home safely. And though we didn't need it, thanks to all the guys out on ATVs helping folks in distress. My mom, Shelley's mom, and my brother were all in safe, warm places. My daughter Taylor too, though stranded at VHHS, and not all that happy about it, yet warm, dry and fed. Lots to be thankful for.
The Wx-men fucked this up. Don't care about the excuses. This was an epic failure that cost untold amounts of money, endangered lives and property, and I'm sure resulted in death and injury. Our "preparation" in these parts is being forewarned and staying home/off the roads. It's doesn't make economic sense to have the necessary resources in place (trucks/sand/salt etc) for once in a generation events like this. People bitch a little about needless closings for false alarms, but nobody really gets hurt badly. To err this way is senselessly dangerous to life, limb, and property and ultimately will cost shitloads more than had we closed everything down for the day and nothing happened.
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Exactly. I feel like part of this failure stems from a few weeks ago when they delayed school because it was cold. Now we get this forecast - even if it was just for a light "dusting" - and the state said, "Fuck that. We're not going puss out like we did a few weeks ago. School's in session!"
Just cancel school whenever there's a chance of snow ESPECIALLY when the temperatures are supposed to be below 32 for multiple days.
And I'm sure the students and teachers will bitch and disagree, but if you must, bring back the weather make up holidays which they removed from many school calendars or make the kids go on Saturday.
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Exactly. I feel like part of this failure stems from a few weeks ago when they delayed school because it was cold. Now we get this forecast - even if it was just for a light "dusting" - and the state said, "Fuck that. We're not going puss out like we did a few weeks ago. School's in session!"
I feel like this is what happened. People bitched like hell that school closed over a bit of cold. They had to find daycare, etc..
Now look at what that attitude has caused. Bitch if you do. Bitch if you don't.
Toughen up people. Be responsible for yourself. To close or not to close was a 50/50 shot. Most everybody got it wrong (except Autauga county).
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I feel like this is what happened. People bitched like hell that school closed over a bit of cold. They had to find daycare, etc..
Now look at what that attitude has caused. Bitch if you do. Bitch if you don't.
Toughen up people. Be responsible for yourself. To close or not to close was a 50/50 shot. Most everybody got it wrong (except Autauga county).
Bitching isn't the issue. It's the end result. If the end result is a little bitching with little or no harm beyond minor inconvenience, then it's all ok. This type of misinformation is costly. I can be responsible for myself, but if misinformation causes people to make decision for themselves, or have others make decisions for them (the boss man) that puts them in peril because they didn't have the proper information to make a decision for themselves. I took care of me and mine, but would have done so differently had I had the proper information.
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Bitching isn't the issue. It's the end result. If the end result is a little bitching with little or no harm beyond minor inconvenience, then it's all ok. This type of misinformation is costly. I can be responsible for myself, but if misinformation causes people to make decision for themselves, or have others make decisions for them (the boss man) that puts them in peril because they didn't have the proper information to make a decision for themselves. I took care of me and mine, but would have done so differently had I had the proper information.
And yet meteorology is such an exact science.
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Hope all of you are safe. I've been quite busy since yesterday p.m. I guess the only way to explain it is that I've been selflessly saving peoples lives.
It all started with a bus load of kids on I65. As you are aware, the conditions were and are treacherous. The bus skidded into an embankment and I ripped off my shirt to make bandages and hand carried each of them back to the roadway so that they could be transported to safety. My muscle ripped pecs, biceps and abdominals were scratched and bleeding from the slivers of ice falling from the trees and the briars.
"You are my hero, WT." I heard it more times than I care to remember. I don't want to be a hero. I only want to bring these people to safety. I would rather be wrapped up in my blankey at home watching Dan Patrick but I can't rest. "I can't rest until I save the others," I kept telling myself in the darkness as I searched. And I searched.
I travelled pedestrian to save more lives. Many old ladies, some priests and a Hooters chick that I ended up keeping warm until daybreak. Oh the humanity! I have to get back to it. Carry on.
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Similar issue with tornado threats, especially with regard to schools. Technology now gives us ample warning that threatening weather will be in your area at some point during the day. Do you cancel school altogether? Do you try and predict the best time to let the kids out? Are they safer in school? Ogre can tell you first hand with the F-5 that hit Enterprise a few years ago. In that situation, we all knew there were watches throughout the day, but this thing rolled up in a hurry. The decision was made to keep the kids in school. I think it was 7 that got killed but keeping them in was 100% the right choice. The school took a direct hit but had they let the kids out, the casualties would have been astronomical.
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Hope all of you are safe. I've been quite busy since yesterday p.m. I guess the only way to explain it is that I've been selflessly saving peoples lives.
It all started with a bus load of kids on I65. As you are aware, the conditions were and are treacherous. The bus skidded into an embankment and I ripped off my shirt to make bandages and hand carried each of them back to the roadway so that they could be transported to safety. My muscle ripped pecs, biceps and abdominals were scratched and bleeding from the slivers of ice falling from the trees and the briars.
"You are my hero, WT." I heard it more times than I care to remember. I don't want to be a hero. I only want to bring these people to safety. I would rather be wrapped up in my blankey at home watching Dan Patrick but I can't rest. "I can't rest until I save the others," I kept telling myself in the darkness as I searched. And I searched.
I travelled pedestrian to save more lives. Many old ladies, some priests and a Hooters chick that I ended up keeping warm until daybreak. Oh the humanity! I have to get back to it. Carry on.
That's some fine interwebbing right there. :thumsup:
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That's some fine interwebbing right there. :thumsup:
He is far beyond any of the talents displayed on this site.
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Similar issue with tornado threats, especially with regard to schools. Technology now gives us ample warning that threatening weather will be in your area at some point during the day. Do you cancel school altogether? Do you try and predict the best time to let the kids out? Are they safer in school? Ogre can tell you first hand with the F-5 that hit Enterprise a few years ago. In that situation, we all knew there were watches throughout the day, but this thing rolled up in a hurry. The decision was made to keep the kids in school. I think it was 7 that got killed but keeping them in was 100% the right choice. The school took a direct hit but had they let the kids out, the casualties would have been astronomical.
The thing about being the guy who makes the decision (and I know the guy who made the above decision) is that you are damned if you do or don't--seemingly most times. I would rather err on the side of caution but I have been one of the parents bitching about cancelling school because of icy conditions expected 300 miles a way. It's not easy.
I figured this would be like most of the other times and an over-reation when my kids schools were cancelled yesterday. Turns out they nailed it.
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And yet meteorology is such an exact science.
Sarcasm noted. All the more reason to err on the side of caution.
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The wife got home about an hour ago. Birmingham can reopen now.
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I blame this all on polar bear vortexes and dinosaur farts.
It is unfathomable to me to consider the complete breakdown of civilization that occurred in a town the size of Birmingham over some snowfall.
Imagine the insanity that will reign when the city is covered with ice because it's so warm that it makes things cold!!
What would really happen if the city suffered a blackout that lasted a few days (which could happen when the weather crazies convince the world that coal should never again be burned). Would Birmingham descend into a frenzy of looting, shooting, raping and pillaging?
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Would Birmingham descend into a frenzy of looting, shooting, raping and pillaging?
Or as we call it in Birmingham, Tuesday.
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That's capitalism. Fucking low-lifers.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/01/want_to_know_how_not_to_act_in.html (http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/01/want_to_know_how_not_to_act_in.html)
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The state has stepping in and is reimbursing the 30 owners of the towed vehicles.
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The state has stepping in and is reimbursing the 30 owners of the towed vehicles.
You mean we are having to pay for his kickbacks.
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You mean we are having to pay for his kickbacks.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind if one of those towed cars just so happened to be yours.
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You mean we are having to pay for his kickbacks.
Bingo.
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I'm sure you wouldn't mind if one of those towed cars just so happened to be yours.
That's really irrelevant. It's not the state taxpayers' fight. Now if the state is suing to mayor to recoup that money, then right on.
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I'm sure you wouldn't mind if one of those towed cars just so happened to be yours.
The problem is 99.999999% with the Mayor of Leeds from what I can see. The surrounding communities listened to Governor Pimple Popper MD and either used their own crews if possible or contracted with local towing companies themselves knowing that they would be reimbursed from the State. This guy said fuck it, I don't want to fool with any of it. I'll just call my cousin over at the local garage and tell him to start getting their cars.
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The problem is 99.999999% with the Mayor of Leeds from what I can see. The surrounding communities listened to Governor Pimple Popper MD and either used their own crews if possible or contracted with local towing companies themselves knowing that they would be reimbursed from the State. This guy said fudge it, I don't want to fool with any of it. I'll just call my cousin over at the local garage and tell him to start getting their cars.
Cooter has to make a living too.
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FWIW...Birmingham is open for bidness today. Well, except for the County Commissioners and their staff.
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Pretty cool pic of the ham from above
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FWIW...Birmingham is open for bidness today. Well, except for the County Commissioners and their staff.
Depends on what bidness you be doing.
UAB (school, not hospital), Samford, and Miles are closed. All federal, circuit, district, and probate courts in Jefferson County are closed. Regions bank branches in metro Birmingham are closed.
I-65 is pretty much clear, as are most highways...I think there are some problem areas on 31 near Valleydale, and I-20 east toward Irondale and Leeds sounds like it's still fucked. Various streets in downtown Birmingham are still "problem areas" according to BPD, including around Vulcan/5 Points.
In other news, my anus is open for business, as always.
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Depends on what bidness you be doing.
UAB (school, not hospital), Samford, and Miles are closed. All federal, circuit, district, and probate courts in Jefferson County are closed. Regions bank branches in metro Birmingham are closed.
I-65 is pretty much clear, as are most highways...I think there are some problem areas on 31 near Valleydale, and I-20 east toward Irondale and Leeds sounds like it's still fucked. Various streets in downtown Birmingham are still "problem areas" according to BPD, including around Vulcan/5 Points.
In other news, my anus is open for business, as always.
I am sitting at my desk in downtown Birmingham so it is open for bidness.
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Everything is thawing out down here. Just got back from lunch and running a couple of errands. I think it's more dangerous now. Large chunks of ice falling from trees, power lines etc. Just before I got back to the orifice, a mammoth tree limb fell in a yard just as I was passing by. I was ready to get inside.
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Everything is thawing out down here. Just got back from lunch and running a couple of errands. I think it's more dangerous now. Large chunks of ice falling from trees, power lines etc. Just before I got back to the orifice, a mammoth tree limb fell in a yard just as I was passing by. I was ready to get inside.
The feeling is starting to come back in my dicth. :tongue:
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Pretty cool pic of the ham from above
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfLGs_0IQAAB5Kg.jpg)
Didn't realize B-ham had that much white in it.
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It ain't over 'til it's over.
A winter storm is possible Tuesday - Wednesday next week and parts of our region will likely be impacted by it. However, whether we see mainly rain, ice or snow remains to be seen.
Be sure to join Marc for the very latest on what to expect starting on WDRB News at 4.
Meteorologist Jeremy Kappell
http://www.fox41blogs.typepad.com/wdrb_weather/2014/01/models-in-better-agreement-concerning-potential-winter-storm-next-week.html (http://www.fox41blogs.typepad.com/wdrb_weather/2014/01/models-in-better-agreement-concerning-potential-winter-storm-next-week.html)
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Didn't realize B-ham had that much white in it.
That white will soon leave too
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The problem is 99.999999% with the Mayor of Leeds from what I can see. The surrounding communities listened to Governor Pimple Popper MD and either used their own crews if possible or contracted with local towing companies themselves knowing that they would be reimbursed from the State. This guy said fuck it, I don't want to fool with any of it. I'll just call my cousin over at the local garage and tell him to start getting their cars.
Yeah, I knew all of that but I get tired of bottomfeeders conspiracy mindset bs sometimes.
As for the Mayor of Leeds, he is a douchbag. What comes around, goes around. I hope he wasn't planning on getting re-elected. These people that had to leave their cars stranded I'm sure would have rather drove their shit home than walked in the cold ass snow for who knows how far to get home.
Blame it on James Spann. #winning
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The problem is 99.999999% with the Mayor of Leeds from what I can see. The surrounding communities listened to Governor Pimple Popper MD and either used their own crews if possible or contracted with local towing companies themselves knowing that they would be reimbursed from the State. This guy said fuck it, I don't want to fool with any of it. I'll just call my cousin over at the local garage and tell him to start getting their cars.
This!
He sent the cops out to bring stranded motorists to the warming center set up at the civic center, then dispatched his cousin's towing company to pull the cars to the impound lot. Cousin Murray then socked the driver with anywhere from a $140 to $175 towing charge plus another $35 impound fee.
That's some Boss Hogg/Roscoe P. Coultrane kind of fuckery.
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This!
He sent the cops out to bring stranded motorists to the warming center set up at the civic center, then dispatched his cousin's towing company to pull the cars to the impound lot. Cousin Murray then socked the driver with anywhere from a $140 to $175 towing charge plus another $35 impound fee.
That's some Boss Hogg/Roscoe P. Coultrane kind of fuckery.
(http://cltampa.com/binary/9c5f/boss_hogg.jpg)
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I was ready this time around...made it in to work with no problems today.
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I was ready this time around...made it in to work with no problems today.
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Thanks for the fuck shack - Dirty mike and the boys
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Thanks for the fuck shack - Dirty mike and the boys
I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
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I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
Let's just settle this, peacocks don't fly! Do me a favor...don't go chasin waterfalls
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Let's just settle this, peacocks don't fly! Do me a favor...don't go chasin waterfalls
That didn't turn out like you planned did it?
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Wait, you learned to dance ironically?