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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on November 09, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
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Just curious.
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60 minutes. Don't believe the hype!
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It's at home.
We are the good guys.
Tre Mason.
Nick Marshall.
Fuck them.
Is that enough?
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If we run the offense fast paced and get on top early, I thinkbit would take them out of their confort zone.
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No idea eeyore.
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If we run the offense fast paced and get on top early, I thinkbit would take them out of their confort zone.
I think you're right. I could see it playing out like the 2009 game. I want to say we jumped out 14-0 only running the ball.
If there's one big mistake I could point to tonight in LSU's gameplan, it was running the ball up the middle at a pro-style pace. Run, run, throw down field.
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It seems like the "pro style" offenses takes a little longer for the hand offs to take place making pressure coming from the d linemen more centered on a point of attack. When we hand off or do zone reads, it opens up a little bit more space to find running lanes.
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Coaching style of Gus.
Bama has holes on defense against the pass, not sure if Marshall can expose those holes with his arm. I honestly thought that we took the red shirt off Johnson for this game.
We should be able to run on them.
With the the way their O line holds and does not get flagged and as weak as our middle defense is, I'm not sure if we have enough offense.
I'm hoping that the whole Iron Bowl atmosphere inspires the D to somehow play over their head. If we can hit McCarron repeatedly he will make mistakes.
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LSU went full on tard tonight. They left at LEAST 14 points on the field with stupid turnovers that Bammer did not force.
Again, unless we flat out beat ourselves, I think we are in it to win it. I think Gus has our guys tamped down in terms of keeping it real, keeping their focus. Avoid the tard and you just never know...
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Bama has holes on defense against the pass, not sure if Marshall can expose those holes with his arm. I honestly thought that we took the red shirt off Johnson for this game.
Fucking Deion Belue. Every. Time. If Gus is smart, he will exploit that. He has been a liability in the secondary since last season.
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Just curious.
1972
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I think you're right. I could see it playing out like the 2009 game. I want to say we jumped out 14-0 only running the ball.
If there's one big mistake I could point to tonight in LSU's gameplan, it was running the ball up the middle at a pro-style pace. Run, run, throw down field.
Malzahn stated (to Dari Noka before TGGOTCEP whatever (see you tube) that up the middle is no way to attack Alabama.And of course we can imagine Grant trying to get to the edge with their team speed. That said, if we run 65 plays I look for 30 passing. I think we run the read option (what we do well) to draw them in and mix it up because if the Turds are challenged anywhere, it is in the secondary. IMO it will take one helluva performance by Marshall to beat them both running and throwing. It won't make anybody happy to see us airing it out so much but I trust Gus knows how to get it done. I have no idea what to expect out of our defense up the middle while trying to defend the five wideouts and two TEs working the play action as they do. Just have to outscore them. UGA might give us a slight preview.
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Malzahn stated (to Dari Noka before TGGOTCEP whatever (see you tube) that up the middle is no way to attack Alabama.And of course we can imagine Grant trying to get to the edge with their team speed. That said, if we run 65 plays I look for 30 passing. I think we run the read option (what we do well) to draw them in and mix it up because if the Turds are challenged anywhere, it is in the secondary. IMO it will take one helluva performance by Marshall to beat them both running and throwing. It won't make anybody happy to see us airing it out so much but I trust Gus knows how to get it done. I have no idea what to expect out of our defense up the middle while trying to defend the five wideouts and two TEs working the play action as they do. Just have to outscore them. UGA might give us a slight preview.
If we lose to UGA, I think it really takes the steam out of us and it could ugly against the turds. If given the chance the dickless wonder runs the score up.
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I think that one of the things that makes AU so dangerous right now is that they have bought into the notion that they can beat anybody. And I'm not saying they can't. I expect Malzahn to throw everything, right down to the kitchen sink at Alabama. AU wants to prove a point, and I doubt the past two beatdowns have left a good taste in their mouths.
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Coaching style of Gus.
Bama has holes on defense against the pass, not sure if Marshall can expose those holes with his arm. I honestly thought that we took the red shirt off Johnson for this game.
We should be able to run on them.
With the the way their O line holds and does not get flagged and as weak as our middle defense is, I'm not sure if we have enough offense.
I'm hoping that the whole Iron Bowl atmosphere inspires the D to somehow play over their head. If we can hit McCarron repeatedly he will make mistakes.
I think at the time of the decision to remove the redshirt Nick was struggling to connect but moreso because his physical style would keep him nicked up :rolleyes: plus several QBs in the league were lost over a two week period. We were entering a portion of the schedule to get him reps and I imagine Gus and Lashlee were looking to Amen Corner thinking we need JJ ready if only for those games rather than have to do it in a desperate against all odds situation or limited physically with another.
IMO our defense is very good on a short field with the angles narrowed down but miserably bad in the open. Alabama ran that same cross last night with different inside receivers on the rt. side numerous times in the first half with no adjustment by Chavous and I think they pull it out for us as well. Their backs remind me more of Jelks/Humphrey than the most recent power types but only Yeldon is the clear recipient of passes which is a key when they opt for play pass. They also seem to like the Kuanjo bros. side which in our case is toward McKinzy with Therezie also in that area. Bell is the deep guy and Norwood the go-to when it really counts. Jus sayin.
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What makes me think it?
Rocky IV.
David Langner and Bill Newton
Tre Smith
Buster Douglas
Brett Favre (circa 1990)
Houston Nutt in the Swamp
UAB in the Valley
Gamecocks in Oxford, and not the Carolina kind
James Madison
La. Tech
Utah
Jared Zabransky, Drisan James, Jared Rabb, Vinny Perretta, Derek Schouman and Ian Johnson
Eli Manning in a Super Bowl
Tommy Hodson (as much as it makes me sick)
Hundreds of reasons.
Beyond that, we are a much better team than the one that lost to LSU early in the season. On the flip side, LSU is a much worse team than the one that beat us. They have devolved as we have evolved.
LSU is a three-loss middle of the pack team now. They couldn't handle Georgia. Or Ole Miss. They will lose after taking two weeks off to A&M. Beating them doesn't carry the same cachet it once did. We play LSU again on a dry field tomorow? I think we win.
Won't be easy, but I've seen far too many "invincible" teams in my lifetime. None of them were.
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What makes me think it?
Rocky IV.
David Langner and Bill Newton
Tre Smith
Buster Douglas
Brett Favre (circa 1990)
Houston Nutt in the Swamp
UAB in the Valley
Gamecocks in Oxford, and not the Carolina kind
James Madison
La. Tech
Utah
Jared Zabransky, Drisan James, Jared Rabb, Vinny Perretta, Derek Schouman and Ian Johnson
Eli Manning in a Super Bowl
Tommy Hodson (as much as it makes me sick)
Hundreds of reasons.
Beyond that, we are a much better team than the one that lost to LSU early in the season. On the flip side, LSU is a much worse team than the one that beat us. They have devolved as we have evolved.
LSU is a three-loss middle of the pack team now. They couldn't handle Georgia. Or Ole Miss. They will lose after taking two weeks off to A&M. Beating them doesn't carry the same cachet it once did. We play LSU again on a dry field tomorow? I think we win.
Won't be easy, but I've seen far too many "invincible" teams in my lifetime. None of them were.
^^^What he said.
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^^^What he said.
What they said, and add a 44-yard game-winner against '01 #1-ranked Florida
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I think this is the game that Auburns SEC Special Teams Player of the Week comes from. Corey Grant makes several statements in this game.
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I agree with our little green friend: the oddly-timed insertions into game situations speak to a purpose for Johnson's lost RS.
I was watching us chew up rushing yardage yesterday and, boom, JJ comes in and throws towards Coates (which is his MO: first play bomb to Coates). Why abandon the run? Why get so predictable with JJ's first play? The better question is why isn't Gus trying to balance out the offense?
I think he's hiding the bulk of the passing playbook as we creep toward the Iron Bowl. In addition, he's setting up Saban/Smart: lull the opponent to sleep with film of run-heavy gameplans and create the narrative that Auburn HAS to run because they can't throw effectively.
The bama D decides that they simply have to stack the box and Auburn will be put away post haste. I think this allows a couple of early passing scores and gives Auburn the early lead that will, hopefully, prove to be the difference in the game.
Gus is too smart to get locked into a tendency that's as completely obvious as this run/pass disparity. He knows that you can't get one dimensional and expect to beat a defense like bama's. Thus, I have to believe that he's engaged in some strategery.
Edit note: upon review of the box score, Johnson did not attempt a pass yesterday. I was confused, apparently, by watching the Ark game replay just prior to kickoff.
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I think he's hiding the bulk of the passing playbook as we creep toward the Iron Bowl. In addition, he's setting up Saban/Smart: lull the opponent to sleep with film of run-heavy gameplans and create the narrative that Auburn HAS to run because they can't throw effectively.
God I hope your right.
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What makes me think it?
Rocky IV.
David Langner and Bill Newton
Tre Smith
Buster Douglas
Brett Favre (circa 1990)
Houston Nutt in the Swamp
UAB in the Valley
Gamecocks in Oxford, and not the Carolina kind
James Madison
La. Tech
Utah
Jared Zabransky, Drisan James, Jared Rabb, Vinny Perretta, Derek Schouman and Ian Johnson
Eli Manning in a Super Bowl
Tommy Hodson (as much as it makes me sick)
Hundreds of reasons.
Beyond that, we are a much better team than the one that lost to LSU early in the season. On the flip side, LSU is a much worse team than the one that beat us. They have devolved as we have evolved.
LSU is a three-loss middle of the pack team now. They couldn't handle Georgia. Or Ole Miss. They will lose after taking two weeks off to A&M. Beating them doesn't carry the same cachet it once did. We play LSU again on a dry field tomorow? I think we win.
Won't be easy, but I've seen far too many "invincible" teams in my lifetime. None of them were.
Rack him
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HOME...HOME...HOME...
Can't say it enough.
Also depth believe it or not I think we have more depth on defense than LSU does. LSU was flat worn out by the middle of the 3rd quarter.
Oh yeah did I mention the game was at home.
This team has me believing like I did in 2010.
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And until the game clock hits zero, we can play with anybody.
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1. Gus and staff. (Arguably the best in the country)
2. Team chemistry.
3. Feels like 1989.
4. We seem to be peaking at the right time.
5. Kris and Cassanova playing more and better.
6. Feels like 1989.
7. Montrae, Carl and Dee.
8. Nick, Tre, CAP, Jay and Grant and one of our best O lines, ever.
9. I think JJ and Nick will both hit Sammie and company on some key pass plays and we have enough yds through the air to keep them honest. QB's won't need to look like Joe Montana or throw it in such tight windows. I feel like we've been doing a lot of passing in practice and it will pay off.
10. It feels like 1989.
On D, we don't have to stop 'em. Just slow 'em down. If we play our best game of the year, I believe that we have a very good chance. If not, it won't be pretty. A turnover or two would help.
On O, I think we will have to hit some key passes. We cannot miss open receivers much or drop passes. We can't turn it over much if at all or it will be all uphill. Marshall has to go out of bounds or down or they will kill him. Really, he'll be out for the game if he tries to macho their LB's or DB's.
Why are we talking about this when the thugs are next?
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Why are we talking about this when the thugs are next?
I read posts from multiple sites about how Auburn has a good chance at beating Alabama. I was curious about what makes so many so confident we can win.
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I read posts from multiple sites about how Auburn has a good chance at beating Alabama. I was curious about what makes so many so confident we can win.
Swag, of course.
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I read posts from multiple sites about how Auburn has a good chance at beating Alabama. I was curious about what makes so many so confident we can win.
You should not be going to other sites. You are a multiple timer and prob like threesomes. Freak.
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Yeldon will gash us up the middle, right through the Holland Tunnel.
That's really the only thing that scares me.
If that can be corrected (i.e. let Frost play the whole game), I can see a 2009-type of Iron Bowl, but with a happier ending.
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Yeldon will gash us up the middle, right through the Holland Tunnel.
That's really the only thing that scares me.
If that can be corrected (i.e. let Frost play the whole game), I can see a 2009-type of Iron Bowl, but with a happier ending.
Yeldon scares me for real.
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Auburn will "pace them" and run misdirection a lot...Auburn won't do what LSU tried to do (running right at the teeth of their defense). uat hasn't faced an offense like the one they'll see on the 30th of November.
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Yeldon scares me for real.
Gurley actually scares me more. Ga's offense is explosive when it's clicking.
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Gurley actually scares me more. Ga's offense is explosive when it's clicking.
Yeah, not to rain on the parade here but might want to worry about Georgia first as they are looking to salvage their season by beating AU (again!).
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Yeah, not to rain on the parade here but might want to worry about Georgia first as they are looking to salvage their season by beating AU (again!).
I'm not gonna worry about any of it cause my worrying has no affect on the outcome of any game.
Bunch of superstitious fuckers.
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I'm not gonna worry about any of it cause my worrying has no affect on the outcome of any game.
Bunch of superstitious fudgeers.
It has less to do with superstition and more to do with focus. Do you want Gus and staff looking past Thuga? Do you not think he looks on the x for game planning?
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I'm not gonna worry about any of it cause my worrying has no affect on the outcome of any game.
Bunch of superstitious fuckers.
One. Game. At. A. Time.
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What makes me think?
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Gurley actually scares me more. Ga's offense is explosive when it's clicking.
It also clicks right before it explodes. But Srsly, I think that their O can go. They have as much big play potential as LSU.
But my biggest concern about them is that they are playing for a better bowl and this is their last shot at slaying a giant. A win against AU would put them on the path of saving a season from ruin.
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It has less to do with superstition and more to do with focus. Do you want Gus and staff looking past Thuga? Do you not think he looks on the x for game planning?
Well if Gus has been reading the boards and gets caught up in our fandom then we have a lot bigger issues. Based on how much playing time Jake is still getting I feel certain that he doesn't look at any board.
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Yeldon will gash us up the middle, right through the Holland Tunnel.
That's really the only thing that scares me.
If that can be corrected (i.e. let Frost play the whole game), I can see a 2009-type of Iron Bowl, but with a happier ending.
Three guesses on who missed this tackle against their slow ass QB?
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Three guesses on who missed this tackle against their slow ass QB?
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This is really not a fair criticism. Jake thought he was going to give him one of those high five hip bumps but the dude just kept on running.
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Jake "the Snake". The Kenny Stabler of Linebackers.
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Jake "the Snake". The Kenny Stabler of Linebackers.
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Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, & Dodge
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Gus took a sizeable chunk out of Jake's ass after that whiff. I heard he went off on him on the sideline.
Does anyone else find themselves inexplicably focused on Jake when the defense in on the field? It's like easing past a horrible wreck on the highway; you don't want to look because you know its going to be gruesome, but you just can't help but look.
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Gus took a sizeable chunk out of Jake's ass after that whiff. I heard he went off on him on the sideline.
Does anyone else find themselves inexplicably focused on Jake when the defense in on the field? It's like easing past a horrible wreck on the highway; you don't want to look because you know its going to be gruesome, but you just can't help but look.
I was walking to the kitchen for a beer and hit the door frame with my toe from rubberneckin Holland. He is captivating. I think my toe is broken. Should I sue him?
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Three guesses on who missed this tackle against their slow ass QB?
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I was actually laughing out loud when that play happened. I told my Dad that Jake thought he was playing intramural flag football. That picture will be called "The Holland Tackle II".
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Gus took a sizeable chunk out of Jake's ass after that whiff. I heard he went off on him on the sideline.
Does anyone else find themselves inexplicably focused on Jake when the defense in on the field? It's like easing past a horrible wreck on the highway; you don't want to look because you know its going to be gruesome, but you just can't help but look.
Whats worse he is there on every tackle...always standing about 3 yds away. How can a MLB always be the guy standing outside of the actual tackle?
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Whats worse he is there on every tackle...always standing about 3 yds away. How can a MLB always be the guy standing outside of the actual tackle?
Love?
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He's no CJ Mosely
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Whats worse he is there on every tackle...always standing about 3 yds away. How can a MLB always be the guy standing outside of the actual tackle?
He's got their back.
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He's no CJ Mosely
No, but I bet his nuts are bigger. Don't steroids shrivel those things up?
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I was actually laughing out loud when that play happened. I told my Dad that Jake thought he was playing intramural flag football. That picture will be called "The Holland Tackle II".
I was talking to my dad during halftime, and he has heard me mention Jake "ghost" Holland and said he had been looking for that number 5 I keep talking about and just never saw him. I chuckled.
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I was talking to my dad during halftime, and he has heard me mention Jake "ghost" Holland and said he had been looking for that number 5 I keep talking about and just never saw him. I chuckled.
Jake is the 12th man on offense.
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Jake is the 12th man on offense.
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No, but I bet his nuts are bigger. Don't steroids shrivel those things up?
Yes but the contrast makes your dick look bigger.
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Yes but the contrast makes your dick look bigger.
Tell me about it.
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Jake is the 12th man on offense.
:kimclap:
That is damn funny, man!
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Auburn still has the Iron Bowl series lead in my 31 year old lifetime at 17-14.
In my 31 years of life, Alabama has only beaten Auburn three years in a row once. 1990, 91, & 92. Auburn has gone on 4 & 6 game streaks.
Gathered from Twitter:
Nick Saban, at LSU & Alabama, has never beaten an Auburn team that finished the season with 4 or less losses, i.e. really good Auburn teams.
The Bama adage "Auburn only beats us when we're down" is not only utterly false, but if anything the opposite is true
Alabama is 1-6 all-time vs. ranked Auburn teams at Jordan-Hare.
Bama has never beaten an AU team w/8+ wins coming in at JHS. They are 0-4 in such situations ('89, '93, '97, '05).
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Alabama hasn't beaten an Auburn team that went on to win 10 or more games since 1974.
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/11/nick_sabans_never_beaten_an_au.html (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/11/nick_sabans_never_beaten_an_au.html)
Nick Saban and Alabama tend to lose to Auburn's better teams (Kevin Scarbinsky)
By Kevin Scarbinsky | kscarbinsky@al.com
on November 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM
If you're Auburn, you spend the next nine days looking for every edge you can find to try to beat Alabama.
You look on the practice field, in the film room and on the stat sheet.
You search for every possible advantage, physically, emotionally and psychologically, to convince yourself you can do what no one else has done this year.
You tell yourself Alabama has struggled with Texas A&M and Mississippi State. You tell yourself the Crimson Tide secondary is vulnerable.
You also tell yourself that Nick Saban's record isn't the best against Auburn's better teams.
It's a strange but true fact.
Saban is 6-5 overall against Auburn as the head coach at Alabama and LSU. He's 4-2 against the Tigers at Alabama after going 2-3 against them at LSU. He's dominated them of late, winning four of their last five meetings by a commanding combined score of 180-63.
But Saban hasn't enjoyed the same kind of success against Auburn's better teams. In fact, he's coached against Auburn teams that would finish the season with nine or more wins five times.
He's lost all five of those games.
At LSU, Saban lost in 2000 to an Auburn team headed toward 9-4, in 2002 to another 9-4 team and in 2004 to Auburn's 13-0 SEC champs. At Alabama, Saban lost in 2007 to a 9-4 Auburn team and in 2010 to Auburn's 14-0 BCS champs.
On the flip side, against Auburn teams that would finish with fewer than nine wins, Saban is 6-0.
This Auburn team, of course, already has 10 wins.
But it's not just Saban-coached teams that struggle to beat the better Auburn teams. It's Alabama teams in general.
The Crimson Tide has lost the last eight Iron Bowls to Auburn teams that would finish the season with nine or more wins: 2010, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2002, 2000 and 1997.
The last time Alabama won an Iron Bowl against an Auburn team headed toward nine or more wins was 1994. That was Terry Bowden's second season as head coach, and it was his first defeat on the Auburn sideline.
In contrast, Auburn's won three of the last seven Iron Bowls against Alabama teams headed toward nine-plus victories. The Tigers beat an Alabama team that would finish 10-3 in 2010, an Alabama team headed toward 10-2 in 2005 and an Alabama team en route to 10-3 in 2002.
What do those trends mean for the 2013 Iron Bowl? Maybe nothing. The past isn't always prologue. This game will be decided by matchups, by Tre Mason's ability to run past C.J. Mosley, Dee Ford's ability to get to AJ McCarron, etc.
But a 10-1 Auburn team that'll walk into its own stadium for the Iron Bowl as a double-digit underdog needs every possible reason to believe it can shock the world one more time.
Recent history provides a reason. Auburn's better teams tend to walk out of the Iron Bowl with a smile.
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I'm so nervous about this game that I feel like you could be jinxing us. Sort of like in 2008, Auburn had never lost in Jordan Hare West.
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I'm so nervous about this game that I feel like you could be jinxing us. Sort of like in 2008, Auburn had never lost in Jordan Hare West.
In 2008 we could not have beat their 3rd string.
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In 2008 we could not have beat their 3rd string.
^THIS^
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Saban is 0-5 against Auburn teams that finish with 9+ wins.
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Saban is 0-5 against Auburn teams that finish with 9+ wins.
It's like Scarbinsky says it, I post it, and you say it again but succinctly.
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It's like Scarbinsky says it, I post it, and you say it again but succinctly.
I don't read your posts.
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Saban has not won a game against Auburn teams with 9+ wins. Your heard it from WT first.
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Saban has not won a game against Auburn teams with 9+ wins. Your heard it from WT first.
Your Delta pledge name is: Scoop.
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Your Delta pledge name is: Scoop.
Why Scoop?
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Why Scoop?
Why not?!?!
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I don't read your posts.
Burn baby burn. :thumsup:
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Burn baby burn. :thumsup:
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Since 1982, Auburn is 16-4 against the updyke nation when Auburn wins 8 or more games. During that same time, when both teams win 8 or more, Auburn is 10-4.
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I don't read your posts.
Who's posts?
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Who's posts?
The guy on first base?