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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on December 19, 2012, 03:05:08 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Spurred by a horrific elementary school shooting, President Barack Obama tasked his administration Wednesday with creating concrete proposals to reduce gun violence that has plagued the country.
"This time, the words need to lead to action," said Obama, who set a January deadline for the recommendations. He vowed to push for their implementation without delay.
The president, who exerted little political capital on gun control during his first term, also pressed Congress to reinstate an assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. He also called for stricter background checks for people who seek to purchase weapons and limited high capacity clips.
"The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing," Obama said. "The fact that we can't prevent every act of violence doesn't mean we can't steadily reduce the violence."
Obama's announcement Wednesday underscores the urgency the White House sees in formulating a response to the shooting in Newtown, Conn. Twenty children and six adults were killed when a man carrying a military-style rifle stormed an elementary school.
The massacre has prompted several congressional gun rights supporters to consider new legislation to control firearms, and there is some concern that their willingness to engage could fade as the shock and sorrow over the Newtown shooting eases.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-set-january-deadline-gun-proposals-173610698--finance.html
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How about we quit coddling kids, feeding them with head meds, showing them consequences to bad actions (punishment) and desensitizing them to life itself. This is the big picture issue. They are fucked up in the head and it's a multifaceted problem. A gun is merely a mechanism. Fuck this noise. BHO and his anti gun minions have been waiting to enact this kind of legislation for a while now.
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How about we quit coddling kids, feeding them with head meds, showing them consequences to bad actions (punishment) and desensitizing them to life itself. This is the big picture issue. They are fucked up in the head and it's a multifaceted problem. A gun is merely a mechanism. Fuck this noise. BHO and his anti gun minions have been waiting to enact this kind of legislation for a while now.
How about he demand a budget proposal by January of 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013?
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Knee...Jerk
We don't know if what gets proposed will do anything at all...but we have to do something.
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How about he demand a budget proposal by January of 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013?
Agree. What happened last friday is not a responsibility of the fed gov. The budgets you mentioned are however. Any red herring will do.
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Knee...Jerk
We don't know if what gets proposed will do anything at all...but we have to do something.
Ask the folks in the uk how gun control worked after dunblane? Or how about Chicago or DC?
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Overreaction and political grandstanding is not a true sign of leadership. Calling for trained and qualified teachers to have access to firearms in schools seems legit to me. It will never happen from the gov't level. They will only want to take more guns away. Sadly, they will use these kids to promote their agenda and if it happens, it will accomplish very little toward thwarting another massacre.
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Something does need to be done, and the President has asked for recommendations from our legislators. I think it's a little too soon to be complaining about how they're going to take our weapons away when nothing has even been suggested, much less decided.
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......Fuck you Obama.
They can't get what they don't know about. Fuck them.
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Dipshit has put a Jan deadline for all kinds of shit hasn't he. Balance the budget, gun control all while HE, our fearless leader "His Assholiness" is playing fucking golf in fucking Hawaii. Fuck him.
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Dipshit has put a Jan deadline for all kinds of shit hasn't he. Balance the budget, gun control all while HE, our fearless leader "His Assholiness" is playing fucking golf in fucking Hawaii. Fuck him.
www.attackwatch.com
You are sooooo in trouble, mister
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Tho it may sound simple I think a lot of this crap can be nipped in the bud with some early years old fashioned ass whippings. Time out? what the fuck is that? To me that was sitting in my room waiting for dad to get there with a belt!
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www.attackwatch.com
You are sooooo in trouble, mister
I think you may be right. Black helicopter circling overhead and my telephones been tapped. Hope THE ONES brown shirt don't get bored waiting to hear or see anything.
Just a minute, somebody's banging on my door, gotta get my shotgun
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I think you may be right. Black helicopter circling overhead and my telephones been tapped. Hope THE ONES brown shirt don't get bored waiting to hear or see anything.
Just a minute, somebody's banging on my door, gotta get my shotgun
Those cocksuckers show up here and open the door themselves, they get 200,000 volts dropped on their ass. Anyone who comes through my door unescorted or uninvited, gets the same treatment. They're called booby traps, I have 'em set the fuck up along with warnings: WARNING: High Voltage KEEP OUT! Why use a gun when I can use electricity for free to protect my family? There's really not much load to it. Anyone, anyone, anyone?
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www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RvnrOuoMNF8#t=1m50s
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Something does need to be done, and the President has asked for recommendations from our legislators. I think it's a little too soon to be complaining about how they're going to take our weapons away when nothing has even been suggested, much less decided.
What needs to be done?
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www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RvnrOuoMNF8#t=1m50s
I guess those brown shirted mofo's ain't gonna get me now, Nibiru will take their punk asses out.
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I guess those brown shirted mofo's ain't gonna get me now, Nibiru will take their punk asses out.
Yea, it won't matter a year from now because we are all going to be history anyway. lol. You heard it hear first on Roller Derby. What I don't understand is why aren't more women aware of the catastrophic potential of this body. I would expect them to be more subdued and easier to undress.
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What needs to be done?
A lot, in my opinion. You've got lots of potential "causes" for gun violence. Ultimately it's that person's individual choice to act with violence, but people's choices can be affected by lots of things.
For one, stupidity. Not sure what can be done there, other than to arrest stupid people when they make stupidly illegal decisions, and hope it gets through to them. In that regard, there's a lot of reform that needs to be done to certain prison and jail systems, but that's a whole different topic. But in regard to trying to prevent stupid people from being stupid? Not gonna happen.
Mental diseases, issues, conditions, problems, whatever you want to call them...they should be addressed. I think we need to be careful how we identify mental diseases, because too many people are being medicated for no good reason. Example: hyper active children being given Ritalin. While there are children who may medically need it, there is rampant neglect or outright abuse in the system that's tolerated. But overall, we need a better mental healthcare system than what we have. Considering our financial constraints, I don't know how much can be done by the government.
DHR. Make it a better system so as to identify and properly deal with problem homes. If you're going to have an agency that is supposed to protect children and prevent them from growing up in abusive or harmful environments that could affect their psyche, then at least do it right. Advocate that potential parents can adopt from America more easily, rather than forcing them to go to China and Africa to get children. That way, when we have to take children away from parents, we don't deter adoptive parents and can deal with the children more efficiently.
I think you're always going to have completely sane people with no history of mental illness, who break suddenly due to either one traumatic event, or a build up of anxiety over time that eventually bursts. I don't know if that's happened here; I haven't cared to read on the killer's history. But in general, it can always happen no matter how hard you try to prevent it.
But if we're talking about what should be done? Pie in the sky hopes without financial constraints or issues with expanding the government's control? Then yeah, I think the above issues need to be addressed better than they are.
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Something does need to be done, and the President has asked for recommendations from our legislators. I think it's a little too soon to be complaining about how they're going to take our weapons away when nothing has even been suggested, much less decided.
It's a "gun control task force". You really think there are any other solutions he has in mind here?
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I know this. If they come asking for any of my firearms they can all kiss my rebel dick!
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It's a "gun control task force". You really think there are any other solutions he has in mind here?
Sure, lots of them. "Gun control" doesn't necessarily mean "take away their weapons." Again, that's a knee jerk reaction that people have when nothing has even been proposed yet.
Stricter background checks. This may or may not be an issue that needs to be addressed; we'd have to review how they're currently being handled and whether any improvements would be useful. Can/should background checks include information on mental illness? Should we create a database of the mentally ill for this purpose? Can we do so without an invasion of privacy or HIPAA violations?
Aside from how the background checks are done, there is the issue of when background checks should be done. My understanding is that they're not done at many gun shows. That's a problem.
Gun ownership training. We require people to take hunter's safety classes in some states before being able to hunt, why not require classes/training prior to gun ownership? Much of the gun violence we see is allowed to be taken due to the improper storage of weapons, not reporting weapons as stolen in a timely fashion, etc. We can't guarantee that training would prevent weapons from being stolen and used for violent crimes, but it would be a helpful step.
Again, you're simply not going to fix stupidity or prevent everything; I'm not proposing the above as ideal solutions that will lead to a violence-free world. However, if we're talking about alterations to our current systems that could help, I think the above needs to be considered, and I don't think any of the above has anything to do with the knee jerk reaction of taking away guns.
Will they address the above issues instead of simply trying to take away guns? I don't know if they'll address these issues specifically, but I seriously doubt they're going to take away people's guns. Recent Supreme Court rulings have made it clear that the federal government does not have the ability to do that. However, they did rule that the federal government could alter the requirements for purchasing weapons (such as the stricter background checks), as well as ban or place additional limitations on "dangerous and unusual weapons."
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If they make the gun laws regarding purchases stricter, then the Black Market would boom. Especially with the Russians bringing their far superior weapons to the market. Any rim fire weapon can be made into automatic machine gun.
http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2006-2.pdf
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/firearms-verification-nfa-aow.html
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/firearms-verification-nfa-destructive-device.html
http://hellboxarmory.com/Common%20Questions.htm
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Nutrition training, smaller spoons, and limited/restricted portions would help end the obesity problem too.
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Nutrition training, smaller spoons, and limited/restricted portions would help end the obesity problem too.
Stop with your facts and sound logic. It has no place in this discussion.
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Nutrition training, smaller spoons, and limited/restricted portions would help end the obesity problem too.
Isn't that what Aunt Michele Obama said? :facepalm:
Obama is nothing but a fucking lowlife bloodsucker who has no patience. We are stilling burying the dead and he's pushing his useless agenda. Fuck you Obama.
Little Daniel Barden, age 7, was laid to rest today in Newtown, CT. He wanted so badly to be a fireman some day like his uncle and cousin, who his family said he idolized and who are firefighters with the New York City Fire Department. So, look who showed up today to honor him—hundreds of firefighters, in their dress blues, from the FDNY and all across the country. Great Americans, every one of them.
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Nutrition training, smaller spoons, and limited/restricted portions would help end the obesity problem too.
Eating poorly doesn't endanger someone else's life; storing guns improperly around children and the mentally incompetent can. Apples and oranges.
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Eating poorly doesn't endanger someone else's life; storing guns improperly around children and the mentally incompetent can. Apples and oranges.
Apples and oranges. A good, nutritious start to your day.
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Eating poorly doesn't endanger someone else's life; storing guns improperly around children and the mentally incompetent can. Apples and oranges.
What the fuck ever Mr. Smarty-pants-know-it-all-TL;DR-posting-gotto-have-the-last-fucking-word...just a gorram observation made for gorram humor.
The whole problem is NOT a gun problem or a gun storage problem or a mandatory gun-training problem; it's a mental illness problem in my OPINION...hopefully ObamaCare will solve that.
Obama-voting yutes...try not to choke on any apples and oranges.
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Isn't that what Aunt Michele Obama said? :facepalm:
Obama is nothing but a fucking lowlife bloodsucker who has no patience. We are stilling burying the dead and he's pushing his useless agenda. Fuck you Obama.
It's not useless, it's the exact agenda that he and his minions want to push and the Obama-bot Zombies are buying into it; The Pharaoh is always right. Fuck him.
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Apples and oranges. A good, nutritious start to your day.
Unless they're trying to take your apples and oranges away. Then it becomes an illegal start to your day.
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The whole problem is NOT a gun problem or a gun storage problem or a mandatory gun-training problem; it's a mental illness problem in my OPINION...hopefully ObamaCare will solve that.
Mental illness is not the whole gun problem. It's not just the mentally ill who are involved in gun violence. That is why I simply suggested, in my opinion, what all could be addressed for the gun violence issue as a whole, not just this one incident.
Feel free to disagree and sling obscenities as you see fit.
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Mental illness is not the whole gun problem. It's not just the mentally ill who are involved in gun violence. That is why I simply suggested, in my opinion, what all could be addressed for the gun violence issue as a whole, not just this one incident.
Feel free to disagree and sling obscenities as you see fit.
Ok. Fuck you hobbit.
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Ok. Fuck you hobbit.
Is that a promise? I'm tingling with excitement.
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Don't we have mentally ill soldiers carrying weapons in foreign lands? I know I was mental back in my service days and I had the key to the arms room at one time for about four months. I was so bored sometimes I use rub one out in there from time to time.
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Is that a promise? I'm tingling with excitement.
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Sure, lots of them. "Gun control" doesn't necessarily mean "take away their weapons." Again, that's a knee jerk reaction that people have when nothing has even been proposed yet.
Stricter background checks. This may or may not be an issue that needs to be addressed; we'd have to review how they're currently being handled and whether any improvements would be useful. Can/should background checks include information on mental illness? Should we create a database of the mentally ill for this purpose? Can we do so without an invasion of privacy or HIPAA violations?
Aside from how the background checks are done, there is the issue of when background checks should be done. My understanding is that they're not done at many gun shows. That's a problem.
Gun ownership training. We require people to take hunter's safety classes in some states before being able to hunt, why not require classes/training prior to gun ownership? Much of the gun violence we see is allowed to be taken due to the improper storage of weapons, not reporting weapons as stolen in a timely fashion, etc. We can't guarantee that training would prevent weapons from being stolen and used for violent crimes, but it would be a helpful step.
Again, you're simply not going to fix stupidity or prevent everything; I'm not proposing the above as ideal solutions that will lead to a violence-free world. However, if we're talking about alterations to our current systems that could help, I think the above needs to be considered, and I don't think any of the above has anything to do with the knee jerk reaction of taking away guns.
Will they address the above issues instead of simply trying to take away guns? I don't know if they'll address these issues specifically, but I seriously doubt they're going to take away people's guns. Recent Supreme Court rulings have made it clear that the federal government does not have the ability to do that. However, they did rule that the federal government could alter the requirements for purchasing weapons (such as the stricter background checks), as well as ban or place additional limitations on "dangerous and unusual weapons."
You are lacking common sense if you really believe anything this guy or any other gun hating politician says in re to gun control and "really wanting to solve the issue".
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You are lacking common sense if you really believe anything this guy or any other gun hating politician says in re to gun control and "really wanting to solve the issue".
The only anti-gun legislation that Obama has endorsed is bringing back the assault rifle ban, although he's never actually attempted to get it passed. He supports closing the gun show loophole, although he hasn't actively pushed for action on that, and he signed into law bills which allow people to carry concealed weapons onto Amtrak trains and in national parks and wildlife refuges.
I don't see Obama as a "gun hating politician," based on his prior record and present actions. If Obama hates guns based on his political record on the issue, then Romney is in the same boat. He advocated for and signed an assault rifle ban in Massachusetts, declaring assault weapons to be "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."
But his record or personal stance on guns is neither here nor there, as he's not creating any legislation; he's delegated that task to other politicians. Will they try to pass legislation that simply takes guns away? I doubt it. If you've been watching the news at all recently and listening to what these politicians are saying, they are fully aware of the court decisions that have been handed down since the 2008 Supreme Court opinion in Heller. The highest court in the land has confirmed the nature and scope of our 2nd amendment rights, and politicians know that they are not going to be able to pass any laws which outright violate those. Laws which ban concealed weapons have been overturned in various states. I just don't think anyone is going to waste time on attempting to pass a law that is clearly going to be repealed due to recent judicial rulings.
Maybe they ultimately do nothing, because they can't pass laws which take away our guns and they don't want to entertain any other options. Maybe they do actually entertain other options. I don't really know, but I think it's a premature knee jerk reaction to assume that they're just going to take away people's weapons when there's no legal precedent which will allow them to do so.
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I don't see Obama as a "gun hating politician," based on his prior record and present
Then you sir, are a fool.
He has NEVER voted pro guns!
And the reason he has not created any anti gun legislation, is because the country has overwhelmingly been pro gun....until now. Now is his chance. And he will seize it!
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Then you sir, are a fool.
He has NEVER voted pro guns!
He has never voted anti-gun in my opinion, either. The only thing on his voting record of which I am aware which would suggest he is "anti-gun" is his vote to reinstate the assault weapons ban...which didn't pass, and which he hasn't pushed, despite the opportunity to do so with the various violent attacks that have occurred over the past two years.
After the Aurora shooting, he simply stated that we need to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill and criminals. Justice Kagan, appointed by Obama, goes hunting with Justice Scalia. Justice Sotomayor may be arguably anti-gun, although she's only had one case to rule on, and the argument she made was more of a procedural issue related to applying the federal right to bear arms to the states. Obama refused the ATF's request to expedite gun reporting requirements as violent acts increased at the Mexican border.
Have you had a personal conversation with President Obama about his anti-gun stance? Because I can't find anything in his voting record or speaking points that makes him out to be as anti-gun as you're claiming. Other than he's an evil Democrat, and thus must be anti-gun by default no matter what he says or actually does.
And the reason he has not created any anti gun legislation, is because the country has overwhelmingly been pro gun....until now. Now is his chance. And he will seize it!
I think the gap has been closing, and as of right now, slightly more people are putting more emphasis on controlling guns instead of protecting gun ownership rights. A lot of that has to do with recent incidents of extreme gun violence which have upset the public and maybe made them less rational than normal.
But, as mentioned before, the Supreme Court has made it very difficult for politicians to pass anti-gun legislation. Even if they wanted to try to pass legislation which takes away people's guns, it just won't hold up constitutionally based on numerous judicial opinions that address the 2nd amendment.
Politicians can be stupid, so I'm not going to say that with 100% certainty that they won't pass a stupid law that is unconstitutional or that takes away rights. However, I think it's highly unlikely given the recent court decisions on the topic, and I think it's even more unlikely to be upheld for any length of time if such a law is idiotically passed.
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Plus he's been dealing guns. So creating more restraints would cut into his supply.
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Holy shit. I typed a couple of sentences and you wrote a dissertation!
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I just want the truth that is all. I'm sick and tired of the media working with the government to hide the truth. Fucking pisses me off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rH1etCHhmQ
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Pretty much self explanatory.
Bill Cooper was right on point w/ this one. From the pages of Milton William Cooper's 1991 book Behold A Pale Horse:
"The government encouraged the manufacture and importation of firearms for the criminals to use. This is intended to foster a feeling of insecurity, which would lead the American people to voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. Using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the antigun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the 2nd Amendment."
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http://now.msn.com/los-angeles-gun-buyback-takes-in-more-than-1500-firearms?ocid=vt_fbmsnnow
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http://now.msn.com/los-angeles-gun-buyback-takes-in-more-than-1500-firearms?ocid=vt_fbmsnnow
$200 for an assault weapon, bitch please. Hell, they could sell it on the open market and get five times that amount and eat Filet Mignon and Lobster for at least a month. I mean really??? Any government run program is destined to FAIL.
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$200 for an assault weapon, bitch please. Hell, they could sell it on the open market and get five times that amount and eat Filet Mignon and Lobster for at least a month. I mean really??? Any government run program is destined to FAIL.
Now wait a minute. This one may not fail. Think about it. The government is buying assault weapons for 200, which they can then sell to the Mexican government for 400, giving a 100% profit to the politician that will pocket that money.
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http://now.msn.com/los-angeles-gun-buyback-takes-in-more-than-1500-firearms?ocid=vt_fbmsnnow
I always hate these feel good bullshit buy back programs. The last time this happened they analyzed the guns and determined that most were not even usable.
Not to mention. How many were stolen weapons? And will they be returned to their rightful legal owner?
Will this save a life? Or did only future victims give up their guns?
Voluntary confiscation is no substitute for gun education!
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http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
To receive updates on this legislation, click here.
Press releases
Feinstein to Introduce Updated Assault Weapons Bill in New Congress, December 17, 2012
Feinstein Statement on Connecticut School Shooting, December 14, 2012
Summary of 2013 legislation
Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks†and “bullet buttons†to address attempts to “work around†prior bans
Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons
Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration
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Not good at all.
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gun education
Those two words don't belong in the same sentence.
Feinstein - is this a Zionist or what?
I'm not listening to these folks anymore. The suck at everything and lower my IQ every time I tune into their bullshit. The Feinstein and the of his Zionist to fuck off.
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Not good at all.
but vv says this isnt the case....theyve shown no past precedent of wanting to control guns....wait?
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but vv says this isnt the case....theyve shown no past precedent of wanting to control guns....wait?
Not sure who the "they" is you're talking about...I only referenced Obama's previous voting record and public comments, neither of which are as anti-gun as everyone makes them out to be.
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If he's anti-gun then why does he need guns to surround him and his family?
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Funny how the people like Senator Feinstein who are demanding that people who own weapons legally be asked to register with a photo id are the first to scream for the ACLU when people ask about voter ID laws.
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http://now.msn.com/los-angeles-gun-buyback-takes-in-more-than-1500-firearms?ocid=vt_fbmsnnow
Supposedly, they melted the guns down. All that smoke surely contributed to Global Warming.
But seriously, if you're a violent criminal what better way to dispose of the evidence? Apparently, they were not checking serial numbers or anything. Derp.
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As should be clear to this point, I am solidly pro-gun rights.
And Piers Morgan pisses me off to no end.
But then Alex Jones (who I suspect is bottomfeeder) has to go batshit insane off the deep end.
I'm sure Piers hand-picked him to demonstrate how nutty gun advocates are. But apparently, he is the creator and owner of "Info Wars", which I've seen some of you guys quote and site from time to time.
By the end of the second video, it's clear that this man is insane.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/08/pmt-jones-deport-piers-debate-part-1.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/?on.cnn=1#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/08/pmt-deport-piers-debate-part-2.cnn
So, I just want to say, Fuck You Alex Jones, for giving the anti-2nd Amendment crowd justification that gun rights advocates are nutjobs.
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As should be clear to this point, I am solidly pro-gun rights.
And Piers Morgan pisses me off to no end.
But then Alex Jones (who I suspect is bottomfeeder) has to go batshit insane off the deep end.
I'm sure Piers hand-picked him to demonstrate how nutty gun advocates are. But apparently, he is the creator and owner of "Info Wars", which I've seen some of you guys quote and site from time to time.
By the end of the second video, it's clear that this man is insane.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/08/pmt-jones-deport-piers-debate-part-1.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/?on.cnn=1#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/08/pmt-deport-piers-debate-part-2.cnn
So, I just want to say, Fuck You Alex Jones, for giving the anti-2nd Amendment crowd justification that gun rights advocates are nutjobs.
That is b/c for the most part Alex Jones is a fucking batshit insane nutjob. I saw this earlier and it reminded of the post I made about Libertarians. Good sound points and a calm demeanor in a debate or general discussion goes a long way in getting your point across and others to accept it. They should try that more often instead of "Fuck you asshole! Ron Paul Revolution! Herp! Derp!. It would go miles and miles in getting the to be more accepted and winning more elections.
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I'll just leave this here...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html
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I'll just leave this here...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html
Saw that earlier on Drudge.
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I'll never register my shit. Fuck 'em.
http://xrepublic.tv/node/1689
"It's absurd."
"No Ma'am" - Former Marine Joshua Boston Letter to Dianne Feinstein
Joshua Boston, Former Marine, Pens Response To Dianne Feinstein Gun Control Bill: 'I Am Not Your Servant'
Boston goes on to say that he is not a "subject," "servant" or "peasant" and should not be punished because of the acts of an evil man. "I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public," he writes
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A 5 Step Plan To Significantly Reduce Gun Violence in the US
http://lewrockwell.com/wenzel/wenzel208.html
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Anonymous responds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZhHyA9z_vI
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As should be clear to this point, I am solidly pro-gun rights.
And Piers Morgan pisses me off to no end.
But then Alex Jones (who I suspect is bottomfeeder) has to go batshit insane off the deep end.
I'm sure Piers hand-picked him to demonstrate how nutty gun advocates are. But apparently, he is the creator and owner of "Info Wars", which I've seen some of you guys quote and site from time to time.
By the end of the second video, it's clear that this man is insane.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/08/pmt-jones-deport-piers-debate-part-1.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/?on.cnn=1#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/08/pmt-deport-piers-debate-part-2.cnn
So, I just want to say, Fuck You Alex Jones, for giving the anti-2nd Amendment crowd justification that gun rights advocates are nutjobs.
So, someone recently sent me a video from this "Info Wars" site.
We discussed some of the pieces of this video earlier.
This one is, I suppose, the best formatted compilation of the things that just "aren't right" about the Sandy Hook shooting.
I want to discount this all as ramblings of an insane person...but some of this stuff is really really strange.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8
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The Emily Parker stuff is particular odd to me.
How can you explain that picture of her with Obama? How do you explain the anachronisms in that guy's facebook timeline?
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Follow up.
Too much pictures and videos to copypasta.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/01/remarkable-resemblance-of-sandy-hook-victims-and-professional-crisis-actors-2557294.html
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Yea, they always do things like that to pass legislation. They have been doing it for years
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I seriously would like someone besides bottomfeeder to comment on this.
Am I as crazy as him for not being able to explain some of this away?
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I seriously would like someone besides bottomfeeder to comment on this.
Am I as crazy as him for not being able to explain some of this away?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTaC580hfPo&feature=player_embedded
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I seriously would like someone besides bottomfeeder to comment on this.
Am I as crazy as him for not being able to explain some of this away?
I seriously would like someone besides bottomfeeder to comment on this.
Am I as crazy as him for not being able to explain some of this away?
Try this in google.
Google "Sandy Hook Shooting"
Click on search tools.
Change "Any Time" to "Custom Range"
Put in '1/1/2011' and '12/31/2011' in for your dates.
First row returned:
EMDR Response and Relief: The Sandy Hook Shooting ...
www.ctemdrtherapists.com/node/17
Sep 7, 2011 - EMDR Response and Relief: The Sandy Hook Shooting. Submitted by admin on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 09:16. NEW AND NOTEWORTHY. The New Haven EMDRIA ...
I click on that link.
EMDR Response and Relief: The Sandy Hook Shooting
Submitted by admin on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 09:16
NEW AND NOTEWORTHY
The New Haven EMDRIA Regional Network is co-coordinated by Lynn Persson and Donald DeGraffenreid.
To assist in the reponse to the tragic shooting in Sandy Hook, please contact EMDR Humanitarian Assistance Program.
Go to: http://www.emdrhap.org
(Forwarded letter from Carol Martin, Executive Director of HAP)
On behalf of the HAP board of directors and HAP staff, I would like to thank you for the most generous expressions of concern and support that we have received from so many friends of HAP following the horrific shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. We are amazed and humbled by the generosity and caring shown by those in the HAP community. This tragic event has affected not just those in Newtown and Connecticut, but countless people in our nation and around the world. It hardly seems possible that this shooting - now part of the fabric of who we are and what is going on in our country - happened less than a week ago.
Clearly, there is something fucked with the dates this website is using, which is skewing the google results.
So I'd call google search an imperfect tool at best.
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I love a grease gun.
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So, someone recently sent me a video from this "Info Wars" site.
We discussed some of the pieces of this video earlier.
This one is, I suppose, the best formatted compilation of the things that just "aren't right" about the Sandy Hook shooting.
I want to discount this all as ramblings of an insane person...but some of this stuff is really really strange.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8
Jones isn't always wrong but many of his theories are lunacy. 9-11 an inside job, the David Icke reptilian thing are two them IMHO. I'm sure bf believes both of those.
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The war has already been lost. It isn't about gun control. Its about cowing down to fucking idiots and the politically correct and letting them dictate what they believe is right.
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/parents-furious-after-young-boys-suspended-after-playing-with-imaginary-weapon/
There is no law that will ever be made to prevent horrible shit from happening. Where the biggest mistakes made is the false belief that if a law saves just one single life it was worth it. In reality that belief is the biggest fucking ruse ever when that said law strips another freedom from an American. Many of lives have been given to protect our freedoms and liberties. However, the biggest threat to take those away isn't a foreign invader.
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The war has already been lost. It isn't about gun control. Its about cowing down to fucking idiots and the politically correct and letting them dictate what they believe is right.
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/parents-furious-after-young-boys-suspended-after-playing-with-imaginary-weapon/
There is no law that will ever be made to prevent horrible shit from happening. Where the biggest mistakes made is the false belief that if a law saves just one single life it was worth it. In reality that belief is the biggest fucking ruse ever when that said law strips another freedom from an American. Many of lives have been given to protect our freedoms and liberties. However, the biggest threat to take those away isn't a foreign invader.
It may save one life from a lunatic but take others who will be defenseless. And, no I don't Icke's theories. Jone's 911 theories, some parts I buy others I do not. I do buy Michael Ruppert's theory though.
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This helps.
Most of what you guys said is addressed here, and more.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
I feel less crazy now.
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Again, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but it really drives me insane that everyone loses their collective shit over literally anything the NRA does.
Armed guards was "the single craziest idea ever" according to 98% of my twitter feed, until Biden suggested it (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-considers-funding-for-police-in-schools-after-newtown/2013/01/10/e0044e58-5b3f-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.html).
And now this:
http://gawker.com/5976382?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
The NRA’s New Ad Might Be the Stupidest Thing They’ve Done Yet
Max Read
http://youtu.be/saHyMxVjceE
"What's wrong with these people?" Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough asked this morning about this new NRA ad, in which a sneering narrator asks "Are the president's kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools?" before pointedly referring, in the style of Ernst Blofeld, to a certain Mr. Obama. Well, Joe, here's the thing: the NRA is the armed wing of a quasi-religious movement of self-obsessed paranoid racists whose gun fetishism is founded on pathological fear of minorities and an abiding belief in ongoing societal collapse, and this ad is a pretty accurate statement of its institutional thought process. So, I guess, what's wrong with these people is that they're idiots.
Really?? Again, first of all, the NRA aren't the only ones suggesting this is a good idea. Secondly, to take that and spin it into "an armed wing of a quasi-religious movement of self-obsessed paranoid racists whose gun fetishism is founded on pathological fear of minorities and an abiding belief in ongoing societal collapse" is batshit. It's as simple and logical as it gets. If you read some sort of racist message into that, maybe that's self-reflective. All I saw is the very logical and rational argument that civilians have the same right under the BILL OF RIGHTS to protect themselves with firearms that the President and his family do. How is this crazy?
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50480658
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/01/Is-This-Most-Insane-NRA-Ad-Ever-Yes-Yes-Definitely-Yes?mbid=social_retweet
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/16/nra-video-calls-obama-a-hypocrite/
http://www.eurweb.com/2013/01/nra-drags-obamas-kids-into-new-gun-ad-watch/
People are acting like this ad directly threatened to kill the Presidents' children. THAT would be fucked up. It's simply pointing out that in the United States, our ruler does not get privileges that the rest of us don't. Specifically armed protection. It's explicitly stated in the constitution. In the Bill of Rights.
Why is this so hard to understand? It's truly maddening to see so many people who so adamantly demand that their freedoms be stripped away...
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Why is this so hard to understand? It's truly maddening to see so many people who so adamantly demand that their freedoms be stripped away...
That is simple, they don't know history. And they have no fear of government because of what they are taught, and not taught, at home and in PUBLIC schools.
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The doublespeak here leaves me dumbfounded.
Following the President's remarks in which he read "statements from childrens' letters" written to him concerning gun violence all while making his remarks in a conference chamber crowded with those children and their families... the President's Press Secretary Jay Carney makes the following statement regarding the NRA ad:
"Most Americans agree that a president's children should not be used as pawns in a political fight," Carney said in a statement.
Forget about the fact the article does no such thing. The Prez has Lil Wayne on his Ipod!!1!
And my generation eats that :pee: up with a spoon.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50480658
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/01/Is-This-Most-Insane-NRA-Ad-Ever-Yes-Yes-Definitely-Yes?mbid=social_retweet
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/16/nra-video-calls-obama-a-hypocrite/
http://www.eurweb.com/2013/01/nra-drags-obamas-kids-into-new-gun-ad-watch/
People are acting like this ad directly threatened to kill the Presidents' children. THAT would be fucked up. It's simply pointing out that in the United States, our ruler does not get privileges that the rest of us don't. Specifically armed protection. It's explicitly stated in the constitution. In the Bill of Rights.
Why is this so hard to understand? It's truly maddening to see so many people who so adamantly demand that their freedoms be stripped away...
Maddening, yes. Shocking, no. People are fucking morons Chizad. People are willing to give up a little freedom to feel protected. After a while you have no freedom left.
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So we're now legislating to prevent an anecdotal incident where a semi-automatic weapon that complied with the current CO assault ban, purchased legally after passing a background check, by enforcing background checks and banning assault weapons?
That's pure insanity to think that is $100Million well spent.
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So we're now legislating to prevent an anecdotal incident where a semi-automatic weapon that complied with the current CO assault ban, purchased legally after passing a background check, by enforcing background checks and banning assault weapons?
That's pure insanity to think that is $100Million well spent.
Another knee-jerk reaction by The Pharaoh and his minions which won't really change anything when it comes to incidents like this.
I'm really fed up with this imperial Fedgov beyond words.
And the damn Republicans in the House have gone to sleep. I thought that I saw House Speaker John Boehner's picture on the back of a milk carton! Where are they in all of this?
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Another knee-jerk reaction by The Pharaoh and his minions which won't really change anything when it comes to incidents like this.
I'm really fed up with this imperial Fedgov beyond words.
And the damn Republicans in the House have gone to sleep. I thought that I saw House Speaker John Boehner's picture on the back of a milk carton! Where are they in all of this?
Being full of shit politicians, per the usual.
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I can't wait for my doctor to ask if I own a weapon when I go in for a flu shot.
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I can't wait for my doctor to ask if I own a weapon when I go in for a flu shot.
I wouldn't get the flu shot. And to hell with the doctor asking me about weapons. Not relevant. But you know they are going after the 2nd Amendment Right from as many angles as they can.
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Totally agree, Tarheel. If the doctor asks me and I tell him to fuck off, his he going to be required to report me to the government?
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He signed 23 executive orders.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/
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Totally agree, Tarheel. If the doctor asks me and I tell him to fuck off, his he going to be required to report me to the government?
I really don't know; all I recall is "we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in the bill"; when it comes to Obamacare they will use this legislation to promote their agenda by any means necessary.
I can see the medical aspect of this being the most insidious in that an innocuous blood test can tell a lot of things about you (like what you've been ingesting) and a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist for whatever reason could be used against you too. "Hmm...Mr. Tarheel you seem pensive and angry when I asked you about weapons...I'm going to make an appointment for you to see Dr. Jung."
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I really don't know; all I recall is "we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in the bill"; when it comes to Obamacare they will use this legislation to promote their agenda by any means necessary.
I can see the medical aspect of this being the most insidious in that an innocuous blood test can tell a lot of things about you (like what you've been ingesting) and a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist for whatever reason could be used against you too. "Hmm...Mr. Tarheel you seem pensive and angry when I asked you about weapons...I'm going to make an appointment for you to see Dr. Jung."
I just read an article about an Oregon sheriff that said he won't enforce any new gun regulations written by executive orders. I wonder how many more states and areas will personally go about enforcing their own laws.
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I really don't know; all I recall is "we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in the bill"; when it comes to Obamacare they will use this legislation to promote their agenda by any means necessary.
I can see the medical aspect of this being the most insidious in that an innocuous blood test can tell a lot of things about you (like what you've been ingesting) and a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist for whatever reason could be used against you too. "Hmm...Mr. Tarheel you seem pensive and angry when I asked you about weapons...I'm going to make an appointment for you to see Dr. Jung."
Now, you've just gone overboard with the paranoia. I've seen nothing in the bill that requires you to see a North Korean doctor.
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Now, you've just gone overboard with the paranoia. I've seen nothing in the bill that requires you to see a North Korean doctor.
Perhaps Dr. Freud would be more appropriate for me; "'Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.'"
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I just read an article about an Oregon sheriff that said he won't enforce any new gun regulations written by executive orders. I wonder how many more states and areas will personally go about enforcing their own laws.
I read that too, I like his reasoning.
http://news.yahoo.com/ore-sheriff-says-wont-enforce-025401639.html
Our Gov Good hair has added to it.
“The Vice President’s committee was appointed in response to the tragedy at Newtown, but very few of his recommendations have anything to do with what happened there.
“Guns require a finger to pull the trigger. The sad young man who did that in Newtown was clearly haunted by demons and no gun law could have saved the children in Sandy Hook Elementary from his terror.
“There is evil prowling in the world – it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds. As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be. Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice. Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.
“In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally. The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president.â€
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He signed 23 executive orders.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/
Seven of those orders relate to healthcare. I think it's laudable that mental health issues are being addressed. But my gut tells me that this aspect of The Pharaoh's Edicts will be exploited and abused to the nth degree not for the good that mental health care can do for folk who need it but to push an agenda.
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Seven of those orders relate to healthcare. I think it's laudable that mental health issues are being addressed. But my gut tells me that this aspect of The Pharaoh's Edicts will be exploited and abused to the nth degree not for the good that mental health care can do for folk who need it but to push an agenda.
What happens to executive orders when a president leaves office? Does the next president have to revoke them all, or are they considered null as soon as his term ends?
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What happens to executive orders when a president leaves office? Does the next president have to revoke them all, or are they considered null as soon as his term ends?
It'll be too late to revoke anything. By then, it will be policy written into the Affordable Healthcare Act; they'll make damn sure of that.
I should add that to my knowledge Obamacare was passed with broad deference to the various agencies and departments that would be involved with it; basically giving them leeway to set policy.
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New gun laws via executive order could cost up to $4.5 billion.
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Any of y'all want to move out here to Bumfuck, Texas with me, I will make room for like minded folk. (Which leaves BF out...) Have never been more glad to live out here... even with Governor Himbo.
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Any of y'all want to move out here to Bumfuck, Texas with me, I will make room for like minded folk. (Which leaves BF out...) Have never been more glad to live out here... even with Governor Himbo.
I love Auburn, Glad I live in Texas.
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You have been reported to ATTACKWATCH . COM
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What happens when government trained and government paid doctors find that you own guns and then start deeming gun owners a mental health risk?
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I'm thinking of moving to...Uruguay.
"Uruguay is a politically stable country, it is one of the few Latin American countries that was not affected by the economic crisis, and investors see it as an attractive option. Plus, in 2008, a pioneering migration law was passed that gives immigrants the same rights and opportunities that nationals have," he explains.
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I like Ron Paul to an extent, not BF kind of love and the rest of the RPR's, but to an extent. I like Rand a whole lot more than I do Ron though.
As Michael Savage said, "Finally, someone with some balls!"
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/rand-paul-on-gun-control-pledges-to-nullify-obama-orders-86332.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/rand-paul-on-gun-control-pledges-to-nullify-obama-orders-86332.html)
Rand Paul pledges to 'nullify' President Obama's executive orders
Paul will introduce his legislation in Congress next week.
By KATIE GLUECK | 1/17/13 6:11 AM EST
Sen. Rand Paul is pledging to undo some of President Barack Obama’s executive orders on guns that the Kentucky Republican believes overreach.
“In this bill we will nullify anything the president does that smacks of legislation,†Rand said Wednesday on Fox’s “Hannity,†referencing his legislation that is slated to be introduced in Congress next week. “And there are several of the executive orders that appear as if he’s writing new law. That cannot happen.â€
Rand’s comments came several hours after Obama unveiled his plan to curb gun violence, an initiative that included 23 executive actions he promised to take to address the matter. Unilateral actions from the president include pushing for research into the causes of gun violence, improving the federal background check system and calling on federal law enforcement to trace guns that are collected during criminal investigations.
“I’m afraid that President Obama may have this ‘king complex’ sort of developing, and we’re going to make sure it doesn’t happen,†Paul said, adding that the Founding Fathers specified that Congress should make laws.
Obama also laid out several policies for Congress to take up, calling on the body to pursue a ban on military-style assault weapons and asking for universal background checks. Paul said he believed that Obama’s proposals for Congress would falter.
“I think there are a few Democrats that will worry about going home to West Virginia or other states like that and voting for a ban on guns,†Paul said. “So, I think there is a good chance we can stop his legislative action. I’m concerned he will try to do the regulatory fiat, what he can’t pass through legislation.â€
Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) hit back at Paul Thursday morning.
“But the notion that we’re going to nullify presidential action when the president is acting pursuant to law, that’s just kind of this anti-government rhetoric that I’m surprised to hear somebody in government use it,†he said on CNN’s “Starting Point.â€
Kevin Cirilli contributed to this report.
More later and I will add emphasis. That last paragraph pisses me off with it's double standard. I thought it was Patriotic to question the President?
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I love Auburn, Glad I live in Texas.
Can I ask when lee county became a gun control bastion and Texas became the model for all things Constitution?I guess I missed the memo. The next Obama in the making is your current mayor of SA. And Sheila jackson lee? Yeah let me move on out there. Sounds great.
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I like Ron Paul to an extent, not BF kind of love and the rest of the RPR's, but to an extent. I like Rand a whole lot more than I do Ron though.
As Michael Savage said, "Finally, someone with some balls!"
More later and I will add emphasis. That last paragraph pisses me off with it's double standard. I thought it was Patriotic to question the President?
If the GOP doesn't put rand Paul and/or Marco Rubio on the 2016 ticket, they are fucking toast. Officially.
Also, exec order has very limited and strict rules. Making up new laws and circumventing an existing one is not within those powers. Anything limited the 2nd amendment in an exec order holds no legal water. Good for Rand Paul for seeing this.
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Can I ask when lee county became a gun control bastion and Texas became the model for all things Constitution?I guess I missed the memo. The next Obama in the making is your current mayor of SA. And Sheila jackson lee? Yeah let me move on out there. Sounds great.
Yes, we have our fucked up politicians, they are mostly in Major cities. But Texas has a whole is way better off than most other states. I mean fuck, the Alabama folks argue over Alcohol content in beer. We argue on killing criminals.
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Yes, we have our fucked up politicians, they are mostly in Major cities. But Texas has a whole is way better off than most other states. I mean fuck, the Alabama folks argue over Alcohol content in beer. We argue on killing criminals.
I guess what I am saying is your state is more liberal in general. In general Texas isnt an open carry state in re to handguns. Thank your state reps in that weird utopia capital for PC.46.02. And you best watch Castro in SA. They are grooming that dude just like they did obama. Hes a huge anti gun freak as well. The only person I hear that spends more than a min arguing over beer content is Chizad and that side of the argument, and he lives in nawlins. It's not even something I hear mentioned around here. Personally I could careless. Bigger fish to fry.
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I'm thinking of moving to...Uruguay.
"Uruguay is a politically stable country, it is one of the few Latin American countries that was not affected by the economic crisis, and investors see it as an attractive option. Plus, in 2008, a pioneering migration law was passed that gives immigrants the same rights and opportunities that nationals have," he explains.
What are the gun laws like in Uruguay and I'm wondering too if I can get by with English and German as my primary languages? (Never cared to learn much Spanish but I guess you're never too old to learn eh?)
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If the GOP doesn't put rand Paul and/or Marco Rubio on the 2016 ticket, they are fucking toast. Officially.
Also, exec order has very limited and strict rules. Making up new laws and circumventing an existing one is not within those powers. Anything limited the 2nd amendment in an exec order holds no legal water. Good for Rand Paul for seeing this.
Should I tell you how many letters that I've received from the GOP soliciting additional donations from me since the election? And what I've done with said letters?
I am sorely displeased and disappointed with the Congressional GOP caucus being in hiding for the last 11 weeks but my complaints and admonitions seem to fall on deaf ears.
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I guess what I am saying is your state is more liberal in general.
Wow. Don't believe everything you think you read. Romney won Texas with nearly 60% of the vote - and won all but 26 out of 254 counties . The larger metro areas - Dallas, Houston, San Antone, Austin, El Paso - and the western border counties are are pinko as can be. However, the liberal influence is strictly confined to within City limits - and I could give two burps and a fart for what the City of Houston does to and/or for it's residents. Harris County (where Houston is located) is as red as all get out - Obama did win the county, but by .03% of the vote - it was a statistical dead heat. Just north of Harris County is Montgomery County (where I live) and we didn't even have Democrats on the ballot other than in the national and state wide races. The county due north of Dallas County (Collin County) doesn't even have a Democratic party in the county. Austin and Travis County are the blue pimple in the center of the state, and the border counties do as their patron tells them, but that's about it.
And don't even go there with Shelia Jackson Lee. The local news people have stopped covering her at all unless she fucks something up royally, and then they mock her. Y'all have Alvin Holmes and Roy Moore. Everyone is cursed with someone.
Granted, dallas and I are on a bit of a high horse about being in Texas, and that is tiresome for others. I get that, and I am sorry for repeating myself. However, with the direction this country is headed, we cannot help but feel a bit relieved about living in a bastion of conservatism. And most of y'all are still always welcome. :)
Castro may be the next "Obama" but I wouldn't mark him down as the anti-Rubio just yet.
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Wow. Don't believe everything you think you read. Romney won Texas with nearly 60% of the vote - and won all but 26 out of 254 counties . The larger metro areas - Dallas, Houston, San Antone, Austin, El Paso - and the western border counties are are pinko as can be. However, the liberal influence is strictly confined to within City limits - and I could give two burps and a fart for what the City of Houston does to and/or for it's residents. Harris County (where Houston is located) is as red as all get out - Obama did win the county, but by .03% of the vote - it was a statistical dead heat. Just north of Harris County is Montgomery County (where I live) and we didn't even have Democrats on the ballot other than in the national and state wide races. The county due north of Dallas County (Collin County) doesn't even have a Democratic party in the county. Austin and Travis County are the blue pimple in the center of the state, and the border counties do as their patron tells them, but that's about it.
And don't even go there with Shelia Jackson Lee. The local news people have stopped covering her at all unless she fucks something up royally, and then they mock her. Y'all have Alvin Holmes and Roy Moore. Everyone is cursed with someone.
Granted, Dallas and I are on a bit of a high horse about being in Texas, and that is tiresome for others. I get that, and I am sorry for repeating myself. However, with the direction this country is headed, we cannot help but feel a bit relieved about living in a bastion of conservatism. And most of y'all are still always welcome. :)
Castro may be the next "Obama" but I wouldn't mark him down as the anti-Rubio just yet.
Texas Unemployment rate 6.2 (As of Nov 2012)
Alabama 7.5 "" "" ""
Crime (From 2010) Alabama Ranked 11th worst in the nation.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/05/most-dangerous-states-crime-rankings-for-2010/
You can get a CHL license here for 8 hrs of your time. And most who don't have one are considered odd.
I run a business in Collin County and it is very business friendly.
No state Sales tax. But fuck we have toll roads everywhere.
And bottom line is that have yawl turd town and more fucking turd rednecks to deal with.
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But fuck we have toll roads everywhere.
No fucking lie.
You want to get my husband started on a twenty minute screeching, spitting like a rabid cat tirade? Ask him when Hwy 249 - the main artery out to Bumfuck where we live - is going to be pay to play. That raises his blood pressure more than I do.
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No fucking lie.
You want to get my husband started on a twenty minute screeching, spitting like a rabid cat tirade? Ask him when Hwy 249 - the main artery out to Bumfuck where we live - is going to be pay to play. That raises his blood pressure more than I do.
I looked at our toll usage at the beginning of the year. We both have to take a toll road to work, and anywhere we want to go on weekends (North Dallas-Plano-Frisco) most are all toll roads. We toll in and out of both Airports (Parking-etc). The NTTA debits your account $40.00 everytime you dip below $10.00 in your account. We were getting hit with that debit twice a week. It was costing $7.00 (one way) to go visit my dad in Ft. Worth.
My figure came up around $3200.00 for the year. We have decided to take services roads to work(Adds about 10 minutes to the drive) and just use the tolls on weekends if we have to.
And they have the perfect crime, the tolls go up up every three years automatically 6%.
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And they have the perfect crime, the tolls go up up every three years automatically 6%.
Even after the initial investment is paid back, the toll continues to go up... never mind that the maintenance is not as high as that...
Rat bastards.
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The real motive: "...dampen the mood for confiscation."
http://youtu.be/ryUbJfg4tAo
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Texas Unemployment rate 6.2 (As of Nov 2012)
Alabama 7.5 "" "" ""
Crime (From 2010) Alabama Ranked 11th worst in the nation.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/05/most-dangerous-states-crime-rankings-for-2010/
You can get a CHL license here for 8 hrs of your time. And most who don't have one are considered odd.
I run a business in Collin County and it is very business friendly.
No state Sales tax. But fuck we have toll roads everywhere.
And bottom line is that have yawl turd town and more fucking turd rednecks to deal with.
The jobs and corporate tax rates are one thing I do think they have going well. I'll give credit where it's due.
Both of those unemployment numbers are below most northern states that are taxed into oblivion.
Texas and Bama both are amongst the lowest total tax burden states in the country. And that is good. U fortunately alabama has a higher % that has to go out the door to entitlements which causes quite the budget shortfall. And if I elaborate anymore as to why I'd get branded a racist but its true.
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And if I elaborate anymore as to why I'd get branded a racist but its true.
You have something against dry-wallers, don't you?
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What are the gun laws like in Uruguay and I'm wondering too if I can get by with English and German as my primary languages? (Never cared to learn much Spanish but I guess you're never too old to learn eh?)
Only bad thing is they're left leaning.
You can get by just fine with using English. To put it in perspective, the Bush family bought 96,000 acres in Paraguay just north of Uruguay. I prefer Uruguay because it's on the coast and the land fertile.
Gun Laws. While nothing like the ones in USA, they are better than in most other South American countries. You need a gun license to purchase guns up to 9mm, and a collectors one for larger calibers. Like in Argentina, detachable mag fed rifles and carbines in calibers other than 22LR are impossible to get. But its not hard to get a Glock 9mm, lever action rifles, pump shotguns and bolt action rifles. Not perfect but you can still be well armed for 90% of the self defense needs. A carry permit is a bit harder but available for the law abiding citizen. Wish Argentina had similar carry permits. http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com/archives/789
World influence:
Location is very much ideal if you want to be away from the main world powers. Usually this would be more of a disadvantage, but if you’re worried about powerful countries nuking each other, this is preferred. At the same its just an hour away from Buenos Aires in boat. I took the slower boat from Buenos Aires, the one that takes 3 hours, but the trip is very enjoyable across the River Plate. The Buquebus boat has a bar inside and a shop, kids have a good time in it. Strategically speaking, you’re still 1 hour away from Buenos Aires, the 7th largest city in the planet, and while crime is a problem here as well as every other problem Argentina has, its close enough to take advantage of the larger metropolis in case you need to buy items that are harder to find (or just more expensive) back in Uruguay. At the same time, river Plate being the widest river in the planet creates the perfect natural barrier. Even during colonial times, the rocky shallow shores of Colonia made it hard for invading forces. Buenos Aires can go to hell in a basket, none of that will reach Colonia.
Regarding supplies, ebay makes it easy to buy just about anything you need in terms of specialized gear.
Uruguay has a low population, 3.5 million inhabitants for its 68,037 sq mile territory. The people are 90% white of European ancestry, mostly Catholic, similar to Argentina.
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You have something against dry-wallers, don't you?
Hmm. Are we discussing the brown people again?
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You can get by just fine with using English. To put it in perspective, the Bush family bought 96,000 acres in Paraguay just north of Uruguay. I prefer Uruguay because it's on the coast and the land fertile.
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Great information. Thanks. I'll have to remember that for reference when the revolution comes. And it is coming.
Separately, I'm reminded of this song by Mark Knopfler (which is one of my favorites):
http://youtu.be/aXXemzIo1ao
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Also, exec order has very limited and strict rules. Making up new laws and circumventing an existing one is not within those powers. Anything limited the 2nd amendment in an exec order holds no legal water. Good for Rand Paul for seeing this.
I'm not sure what Rand Paul is saving us from at this point in time. None of the executive orders deal with gun control in the sense of taking away guns, or even immediately altering legislation. The only executive orders that even mention guns consist of issuing Presidential memorandums, improving incentive for states to share information for the background check system, directing the Attorney General to review categories of people prevented from owning guns, etc.
Nothing that the President said about assault rifles or high capacity magazines was included in any of the 23 executive orders, and the President himself said that such suggestions would need to be addressed by Congress, not executive order. I don't see anything within any of the executive orders that takes away any guns or immediately makes any changes.
Congrats to Rand Paul for realizing that such suggestions have to be passed by Congress, but that was already mentioned expressly by Obama during his speech.
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What is up with people from Texas always having a retard strong boner over their state?
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I'm not sure what Rand Paul is saving us from at this point in time. None of the executive orders deal with gun control in the sense of taking away guns, or even immediately altering legislation. The only executive orders that even mention guns consist of issuing Presidential memorandums, improving incentive for states to share information for the background check system, directing the Attorney General to review categories of people prevented from owning guns, etc.
Nothing that the President said about assault rifles or high capacity magazines was included in any of the 23 executive orders, and the President himself said that such suggestions would need to be addressed by Congress, not executive order. I don't see anything within any of the executive orders that takes away any guns or immediately makes any changes.
Congrats to Rand Paul for realizing that such suggestions have to be passed by Congress, but that was already mentioned expressly by Obama during his speech.
This is just a stepping stone towards confiscation.
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What is up with people from Texas always having a retard strong boner over their state?
At my age, anything that gets me a boner I am all for.
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This is just a stepping stone towards confiscation.
I usually take a little Ex-Lax and I'm fine the next day.
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I usually take a little Ex-Lax and I'm fine the next day.
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You have something against dry-wallers, don't you?
Those naggers that constantly pester me.
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A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.
http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-27__14-58-27/Police%20Union%20Seeks%20Funding%20For%20Trauma%20Treatment
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Obama isn't changing shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQHWTfFV3Vc