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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on December 05, 2012, 07:50:59 PM
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Phillip Marshall â€@PMARSHONAU
All Auburn assistants are let go by Malzahn
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Although this will cost us some high profile recruits, I can understand his wanting to start fresh. Damn, I wanted to see Foster in o&b.
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At least he got that right
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I agree with this decision made by Malzahn.
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At least he got that right
Culture change.
People don't take to change well.
Good for you Gus, make it yours.
:facepalm: God I hope he knows what he's doing.
Says to me if you think I'm soft you better think again and...I am in charge here.
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Good move by Gus. The best way to make a fresh start is to sweep the floor clean.
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Ellis Johnson accepts DC position per Cole Cubelic.
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The more I think about this, I'm not so sure. We have (had) a top notch recruiting class. We have an OL coach that Texas tried to get 2 yrs ago. One of the better special teams in years. I just don't know that a shotgun firing was what we need. Rifle, yes. Shotgun, I'm not sold.
He coached with them, so I hope he knows.
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Uhh about that...
Justin Hokanson â€@JHokanson
In reality, nothing has changed. Auburn's staff was released after Gene Chizik's dismissal. Told they could re-interview with new HC...
Justin Hokanson â€@JHokanson
...that's what's happening. Those that wish to stay, it will be up to Gus Malzahn and new coordinators.
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Uhh about that...
Justin Hokanson â€@JHokanson
In reality, nothing has changed. Auburn's staff was released after Gene Chizik's dismissal. Told they could re-interview with new HC...
Justin Hokanson â€@JHokanson
...that's what's happening. Those that wish to stay, it will be up to Gus Malzahn and new coordinators.
That's what I figured.
However, I bet Trooper Taylor isn't out recruiting any time soon unless we hire him back really quickly.
Not that I necessarily want Trooper back. I hope Malzahn realizes that one group of high school kids won't save the program. Hire the best coaches, and then we'll go recruiting.
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That's what I figured.
However, I bet Trooper Taylor isn't out recruiting any time soon unless we hire him back really quickly.
Not that I necessarily want Trooper back. I hope Malzahn realizes that one group of high school kids won't save the program. Hire the best coaches, and then we'll go recruiting.
I can understand that we need to start fresh but I also think we do have SOME good coaches. And we especially need to try to keep some semblance of this recruiting class together. It's his baby and it's his ass on the line.
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Although this will cost us some high profile recruits, I can understand his wanting to start fresh. Damn, I wanted to see Foster in o&b.
I think that Foster is coming regardless. The kid has an AU tattoo on his forearm for crying out loud. Just a thought, but when you listen to some of these recruits, it sounds like Trooper is almost holding his job hostage. You keep hearing all of these kids say "If Trooper is let go, I'm gone too." At some point he should be the professional and say "Hey, if you don't want to go to Auburn, don't go. But don't make your decision based on me." Just my opinion. I just think that it's odd how alot of these kids have come out in unison about Trooper. He should have sold them on the school itself, not who recruited you.
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I think that Foster is coming regardless. The kid has an AU tattoo on his forearm for crying out loud. Just a thought, but when you listen to some of these recruits, it sounds like Trooper is almost holding his job hostage. You keep hearing all of these kids say "If Trooper is let go, I'm gone too." At some point he should be the professional and say "Hey, if you don't want to go to Auburn, don't go. But don't make your decision based on me." Just my opinion. I just think that it's odd how alot of these kids have come out in unison about Trooper. He should have sold them on the school itself, not who recruited you.
I actually agree with your opinion. But what you said about RF isn't exactly a given. Foster has said that where Trooper is will be a big factor in where he goes.
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I think that Foster is coming regardless. The kid has an AU tattoo on his forearm for crying out loud. Just a thought, but when you listen to some of these recruits, it sounds like Trooper is almost holding his job hostage. You keep hearing all of these kids say "If Trooper is let go, I'm gone too." At some point he should be the professional and say "Hey, if you don't want to go to Auburn, don't go. But don't make your decision based on me." Just my opinion. I just think that it's odd how alot of these kids have come out in unison about Trooper. He should have sold them on the school itself, not who recruited you.
Shhhiiiiiiiitttttt. Troop could spray paint a fucking turd red paint a white A on it and sell it to a goat fucker. Then again, anyone can do that. Point is Trooper just pisses everyone in the SEC off because he is damn good at what he does. Hence your little pissy fit above me. With that said go fuck a goat Harvey.
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Shhhiiiiiiiitttttt. Troop could spray paint a fucking turd red paint a white A on it and sell it to a goat fucker. Then again, anyone can do that. Point is Trooper just pisses everyone in the SEC off because he is damn good at what he does. Hence your little pissy fit above me. With that said go fuck a goat Harvey.
I don't have a problem with Trooper. I have never said anything negative about him...ever.
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I don't have a problem with Trooper. I have never said anything negative about him...ever.
I think he is a terrific recruiter, horrible WR coach... and everybody's buddy.
He might make a good recuiting coordinator. He knows the territory and I don't think Auburn would like to recruit against him.
It's up to Gus!
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Apparently, Gus fired Yox.
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Apparently, Gus fired Yox.
Dayum!
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With that said go fuck a goat Harvey.
I see you don't know RWS very well.
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I don't have a problem with Trooper. I have never said anything negative about him...ever.
I think that Foster is coming regardless. The kid has an AU tattoo on his forearm for crying out loud. Just a thought, but when you listen to some of these recruits, it sounds like Trooper is almost holding his job hostage. You keep hearing all of these kids say "If Trooper is let go, I'm gone too." At some point he should be the professional and say "Hey, if you don't want to go to Auburn, don't go. But don't make your decision based on me." Just my opinion. I just think that it's odd how alot of these kids have come out in unison about Trooper. He should have sold them on the school itself, not who recruited you.
You just did you drunk SOB. :facepalm:
I think he is a terrific recruiter, horrible WR coach... and everybody's buddy.
He might make a good recuiting coordinator. He knows the territory and I don't think Auburn would like to recruit against him.
It's up to Gus!
Adams and Zachery turned into All-Sec caliber players under him. I give him a pass this year due to QB play.
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You just did you drunk SOB. :facepalm:
Adams and Zachery turned into All-Sec caliber players under him. I give him a pass this year due to QB play.
I have to agree with jmar. I have seen some bad traits in the WR's during his tenure. Granted he is way better than Knox so our expectations were low.
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You just did you drunk SOB. :facepalm:
It's an observation, and I don't think that I'm that far off the mark. Don't lump me in with those that talk shit about the guy. I just don't think that the situation is being handled the way it should.
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I have to agree with jmar. I have seen some bad traits in the WR's during his tenure. Granted he is way better than Knox so our expectations were low.
Adams and Zachery were also tubs holdovers. After them, what? Besides on and off Blake, nada.
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Adams and Zachery were also tubs holdovers. After them, what? Besides on and off Blake, nada.
The one thing that sticks out to me is that our WR's blocked great in 2010. Phenomenal compared to the Knox years. Our route running seemed to vastly improve over Knox years too. How much was Gus and how much TT? Last two years? I don't know. QB play certainly plays into it but I've been underwhelmed in passing game--obviously.
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Maybe its just me but I seen lots of times this year where receivers were running free and the ball wasn't delivered/over thrown/wrong read. I also envoke the powers of the Auburn Ledgends Search Committee. Guy was a great coach. I'm blaming Chizik.
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Wait a minute. Did he flush the previous regime or not?
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Maybe its just me but I seen lots of times this year where receivers were running free and the ball wasn't delivered/over thrown/wrong read. I also envoke the powers of the Auburn Ledgends Search Committee. Guy was a great coach. I'm blaming Chizik.
They haven't worked together.
Our QBs can't read cover keys and the receivers can't either. No clue. (not incl. Blake)
Ever see our QBs throw a corner fade?
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Wait a minute. Did he flush the previous regime or not?
Waiting to see who gets reconstituted.
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Waiting to see who gets reconstituted.
(http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/eternal-facepalm-eternal-facepalm-facepalm-captain-pickard-demotivational-poster-12422642591.jpg)
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(http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/eternal-facepalm-eternal-facepalm-facepalm-captain-pickard-demotivational-poster-12422642591.jpg)
Nah that's just Pickard exhibiting patience.
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I agree with this decision made by Malzahn.
Tells me a lot about the prior staff. Smart move.
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I'm so happy and I hope this is true
Been told by multiple prospects today that former Auburn asst Trooper Taylor says he expects to be brought back.
From Kipp Adams/Espn
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Just my armchair QB observation on Trooper. Like many have said, would love to see the guy stay for his recruiting abilities. He can flat out handle his duties there. I honestly don't know enough about playing or coaching WR to say what kind of corch he is. We had no complaints in 09' or 2010' but when your offense goes from:
Cam to Trotter
Senior O-line with 8 bazwillion starts between them to Sullen, Slade and true Fr. Dismukes
240 lb. fullback to no fullback and your All SEC TE playing totally out of position
Darvin Adams and Terrell Zachary to Blake and um....nobody
...you tend to start pointing fingers. JMO.
My one and only reservation with Trooper is...as some have also said...whether he's as much a part of the lack of discipline as anything else. Is he everyone's friend and players don't fear him? When we all saw Chizik blowing up a player and Trooper stepping in and taking that player away from Chizik...is that what he's all about? I honestly don't know, but it does appear that way to me.
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Just my armchair QB observation on Trooper. Like many have said, would love to see the guy stay for his recruiting abilities. He can flat out handle his duties there. I honestly don't know enough about playing or coaching WR to say what kind of corch he is. We had no complaints in 09' or 2010' but when your offense goes from:
Cam to Trotter
Senior O-line with 8 bazwillion starts between them to Sullen, Slade and true Fr. Dismukes
240 lb. fullback to no fullback and your All SEC TE playing totally out of position
Darvin Adams and Terrell Zachary to Blake and um....nobody
...you tend to start pointing fingers. JMO.
My one and only reservation with Trooper is...as some have also said...whether he's as much a part of the lack of discipline as anything else. Is he everyone's friend and players don't fear him? When we all saw Chizik blowing up a player and Trooper stepping in and taking that player away from Chizik...is that what he's all about? I honestly don't know, but it does appear that way to me.
Actually I like what he did with Chizik. He obviously didn't agree with him which isn't a bad thing. Now is it? And btw, Chizik was in the wrong there. Trooper was right. Just saying.
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Actually I like what he did with Chizik. He obviously didn't agree with him which isn't a bad thing. Now is it? And btw, Chizik was in the wrong there. Trooper was right. Just saying.
I don't think Snaggle is talking about the incident you are thinking.
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I don't think Snaggle is talking about the incident you are thinking.
I'm thinking of the one where Chizik incorrectly chewed out a player for something he didn't do. The player and troop were trying to tell him that but chiz wasn't having it. To me that sums up exactly why Gene was a bad HC. His timing with everything was awful. The time to chew out players and put through the motions was at practice and when they START breaking rules. Not on national tv when they didnt do anything wrong. He was just all kinds of fucked up in regards to discipline.
Anyone have a link to the video Im referring to?
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I'm thinking of the one where Chizik incorrectly chewed out a player for something he didn't do. The player and troop were trying to tell him that but chiz wasn't having it. To me that sums up exactly why Gene was a bad HC. His timing with everything was awful. The time to chew out players and put through the motions was at practice and when they START breaking rules. Not on national tv when they didnt do anything wrong. He was just all kinds of fucked up in regards to discipline.
Anyone have a link to the video Im referring to?
I thought he was chewing a guy out for a personal foul that he actually did commit?
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It was Bates on a roughing the passer. I think the announcers are saying that it might have been an accident. Even if it wasn't warranted, as an assistant, I don't think you go over there and interrupt the boss. Even if the boss is being a dumbass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Uvn9tZ7lI
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It was Bates on a roughing the passer. I think the announcers are saying that it might have been an accident. Even if it wasn't warranted, as an assistant, I don't think you go over there and interrupt the boss. Even if the boss is being a dumbass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Uvn9tZ7lI
You just might if you know the boss isn't really a boss, and you don't respect him.
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That wasn't the only time and most coaches would have fired Trooper on the spot. Tuberville would have knocked his cap back striaght on his head.
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You just might if you know the boss isn't really a boss, and you (and other coaches-players-other teams and fans) don't respect him.
Added to it
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It was Bates on a roughing the passer. I think the announcers are saying that it might have been an accident. Even if it wasn't warranted, as an assistant, I don't think you go over there and interrupt the boss. Even if the boss is being a dumbass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Uvn9tZ7lI
There was a replay shown and it showed where Bates simply tripped and fell landing on a player. Bates knew that and trooper knew that. Chizik was being his normal self in approaching that situation wrong. Trooper was trying to right it but to no avail. I also think he was trying to keep a situation from escalating. There is a time and place to be a disciplinarian. And that wasn't the place. It's unfortunate Chizik wasn't one where it actually counted. Fucker just had it all backwards in every aspect. And didn't see any wrong. I have no issue with what trooper did. Especially if, as JR said, trooper knows the Head man is wrong and had lost respect for him.
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That wasn't the only time and most coaches would have fired Trooper on the spot. Tuberville would have knocked his cap back striaght on his head.
Tuberville probably would have been right too. Chizik wasn't.
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Tuberville probably would have been right too. Chizik wasn't.
This. Twice.
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Head man is the reason Trooper has a job that puts him in America's 1%.
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Head man is the reason Trooper has a job that puts him in America's 1%.
Understand but I just dont think that gives the hc a blank check to do whatever he wants even if he's wrong. Chiz was seriously wrong in what he did there. But he was too damn stubborn to ever see it. I just wouldn't use situations where Chizik was wrong to prove that trooper is too lax. I say make him recruiting coordinator and let someone else actually coach WRs.
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Understand but I just dont think that gives the hc a blank check to do whatever he wants even if he's wrong. Chiz was seriously wrong in what he did there. But he was too damn stubborn to ever see it. I just wouldn't use situations where Chizik was wrong to prove that trooper is too lax. I say make him recruiting coordinator and let someone else actually coach WRs.
I agree with Snaggle, GH, Trooper, Chiz, Bates, the official who threw the flag and the announcers on this one. I just smoked a doobie and pop a couple of quaaludes. It's all good. I do not feel the need to pop a cap in anyones ass today.
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I agree with Snaggle, GH, Trooper, Chiz, Bates, the official who threw the flag and the announcers on this one. I just smoked a doobie and pop a couple of quaaludes. It's all good. I do not feel the need to pop a cap in anyones ass today.
Take that, GH. He agrees with me.
TL;DR any of the rest
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The Head Coach is never wrong, even if he is...until he's fired, then he's all fucked up.
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Take that, GH. He agrees with me.
TL;DR any of the rest
He agreed with me on time also. But I had just bought him a beer.
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Wayne Bolt gone too.
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The Head Coach is never wrong, even if he is...until he's fired, then he's all fucked up.
We won 1 game the first 7.
3 out of 12.
The hc was very wrong all year.
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We won 1 game the first 7.
3 out of 12.
The hc was very wrong all year.
Which is why he was fired. Those games were lost in the last two off seasons.
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Buh Bye Trooper
@JayGTate
Trooper Taylor will not be retained by new coach Gus Malzahn.
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Buh Bye Trooper
@JayGTate
Trooper Taylor will not be retained by new coach Gus Malzahn.
There goes the recruiting class...
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Thank goodness.
All that backwards hat thuggery gone.
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Thank goodness.
All that backwards hat thuggery gone.
:ruhroh: :hammer:
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There goes the recruiting class...
Let 'em go, Buzzy. We want them committed to Auburn and not an assistant WR coach.
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Let 'em go, Buzzy. We want them committed to Auburn and not an assistant WR coach.
Me 2.
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Let 'em go, Buzzy. We want them committed to Auburn and not an assistant WR coach.
Like TJ Yeldon was totally committed to Alabama? These kids aren't committed to the University. They go there because they like the coaches, or other players, Or $$$, or they got hot hookers and blow on their visit. I'm all for cleaning house in this program. But admittedly, if this move costs us several 5* recruits, I'm not going to be happy. We need players. Big time players. And if we don't sign em', someone's going to and we'll be watching Carl Lawson rip our QB's head off.
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Gus should have saved some time and just hung a bunch of interlocking AU's around the Arkansas State campus
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Gus is a great guy, he hasn't screwed over Arkansas State at all. Look at him he is a Christian man he wears glasses for gods sake.
According to Bozo he will be a great Ambassador for Auburn. Football coach I have no fucking clue....but Ambassador...y'all better watch the fuck out.
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Trooper will not be retained on The staff.
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Buh Bye Trooper
@JayGTate
Trooper Taylor will not be retained by new coach Gus Malzahn.
Trooper will not be retained on The staff.
THIS JUST IN.....
:civic: :civic:
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I heard we fired Trooper...anyone know?
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THIS JUST IN.....
:civic: :civic:
I'm in a meeting, word on the street is Chizik might get fired.
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I'm in a meeting, word on the street is Chizik might get fired.
Yeah but if we fired Chizik...Jacobs would just go and get another meh coach.
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Yeah but if we fired Chizik...Jacobs would just go and get another meh coach.
Petrino?
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Petrino?
He cheated on his wife.
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Like TJ Yeldon was totally committed to Alabama? These kids aren't committed to the University. They go there because they like the coaches, or other players, Or $$$, or they got hot hookers and blow on their visit. I'm all for cleaning house in this program. But admittedly, if this move costs us several 5* recruits, I'm not going to be happy. We need players. Big time players. And if we don't sign em', someone's going to and we'll be watching Carl Lawson rip our QB's head off.
Get ready to be unhappy. But hopefully the long term gain will outweigh the short term cost. I think this blows this class up unless Malzahn keeps Lupe, thig and maybe Boulware.
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He cheated on his wife.
Again? That was fast.
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He cheated on his wife.
I thought he was dead.
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Again? That was fast.
Bobby P likes him some strange.
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Damn'd if Petrino didn't jump ship from the Falcons in mid-season.
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Gus is a great guy, he hasn't screwed over Arkansas State at all. Look at him he is a Christian man he wears glasses for gods sake.
According to Bozo he will be a great Ambassador for Auburn. Football coach I have no fucking clue....but Ambassador...y'all better watch the fuck out.
I'm a Maker's Mark Ambassador.
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I'm a Maker's Mark Ambassador.
You are speaking my language.