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Pat Dye Field => Beard-Eaves Memorial Coliseum => Topic started by: Pell City Tiger on November 09, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
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Tigers open the season with a win against IPFW, 61-50.
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Sweet! We beat the Iron Workers Union by double digits!
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Sweet! We beat the Iron Workers Union by double digits!
Boom! Championship!
Remember kids, AU>FSU>Duke>UNC so that means we are the best team in the nation!
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Auburn apparently starts a tourney on Thursday in Charleston, S.C. Not sure who all they play because the schedule shows 7 games over a 3 day period. Teams in it are:
Murray State
College of Charleston
Baylor
Boston College
Colorado
St. Johns
Dayton
Don't know much about these teams this year.
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Murray State usually fields a decent team, and we open the tourney against them.
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7 ft. Lithuanian is latest get for Barbee.
Unaware of stats so he is likely a project.
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Auburn apparently starts a tourney on Thursday in Charleston, S.C. Not sure who all they play because the schedule shows 7 games over a 3 day period. Teams in it are:
Murray State
College of Charleston
Baylor
Boston College
Colorado
St. Johns
Dayton
Don't know much about these teams this year.
Baylor es muy bueno.
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Boom! Championship!
Remember kids, AU>FSU>Duke>UNC so that means we are the best team in the nation!
We are not amused.
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We are not amused.
My Dookies took care of All-Freshman U last night.
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We are not amused.
You my boy blue!!
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You my boy blue!!
It's a good thing basketball season started; I came close to drinking myself into a coma while I was in Las Vegas.
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You my boy blue!!
I close my eyes...only for a moment, and the moment's gone
All my dreams pass before my eyes.........a curiosity
Dust in the wind......all we are is dust in the wind.
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It's a good thing basketball season started; I came close to drinking myself into a coma while I was in Las Vegas.
I'm glad you warmed them up for us. We're going to demolish that fucking town in a couple of weeks.
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I'm glad you warmed them up for us. We're going to demolish that fucking town in a couple of weeks.
More of an anal destruction really.
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I'm glad you warmed them up for us. We're going to demolish that fucking town in a couple of weeks.
I didn't throw up on any flight attendants.
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For what it's worth, Murray State is up 55-24 with 14 minutes left.
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And it's a final - 79-59 Murray State.
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And it's a final - 79-59 Murray State.
And it was worse than the score looked.
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patience.
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Jay Jacobs #winning
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:haha: :moon: :sad: :rofl: :facepalm: :cage: :pwnd: :bs: :s&m: :devil: :& :bc: ;)
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Srsly, this saddens me like Phillip Marshall. I was watching the scores scroll last night and every time AU goes by, they're down 30....down 33....got it to 29....down 31. I know it's one game. Maybe it was one of those everything went wrong/everything went right nights. But please don't tell me we're going down this road again. I've been fairly optimistic about this club and Barbee.
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Srsly, this saddens me like Phillip Marshall. I was watching the scores scroll last night and every time AU goes by, they're down 30....down 33....got it to 29....down 31. I know it's one game. Maybe it was one of those everything went wrong/everything went right nights. But please don't tell me we're going down this road again. I've been fairly optimistic about this club and Barbee.
I think we need to bring back Lebo.
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I think we need to bring back Lebo.
That durdy hoorish mouf....u shut it.
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Srsly, this saddens me like Phillip Marshall. I was watching the scores scroll last night and every time AU goes by, they're down 30....down 33....got it to 29....down 31. I know it's one game. Maybe it was one of those everything went wrong/everything went right nights. But please don't tell me we're going down this road again. I've been fairly optimistic about this club and Barbee.
I watched some of it...and let me preface this by saying that I don't think we are very good...but holy shit, Murray State was on fucking fire. It seemed like they couldn't miss.
They shot over 50% from the floor and nearly 50% from 3. Their starters were 9-16 from 3.
Auburn shot 33% and 20% from 3.
That shit will get you beat.....quick....
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Plus...we still suck at free throws...
Why is this so hard?
Murray State 14-16 FT
Auburn 17-30 FT
:facepalm:
If you are going to have a fast pace slash team, you have got to make your free throws...
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Plus...we still suck at free throws...
Why is this so hard?
Murray State 14-16 FT
Auburn 17-30 FT
:facepalm:
If you are going to have a fast pace slash team, you have got to make your free throws...
It's fundamental and should be practiced again and again and again daily. It's not rocket science. This is a huge pet peeve of mine! They like to make those huge, dramatic, NBA-style slam dunks but Heaven forbid you get the basics of the game right!
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It's fundamental and should be practiced again and again and again daily. It's not rocket science. This is a huge pet peeve of mine! They like to make those huge, dramatic, NBA-style slam dunks but Heaven forbid you get the basics of the game right!
Ed Zakree. Just finding someone who can square up and shoot a jumper is tough these days. It's all slash and dish and slam and launch the first available three.
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Ed Zakree. Just finding someone who can square up and shoot a jumper is tough these days. It's all slash and dish and slam and launch the first available three.
4 Corners is where it's at!
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Ford 4 Corners is where it's at!
fixt.
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We're taking on the Fighting Whatchamacallits from College of Charleston tonight. As a matter of fact, it just tipped off.
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Tigers pick up the win, 55-51.
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Dayton drops us, 73-63.
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Dayton drops us, 73-63.
They're soooooo fast!
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So, let's recap this stellar season after 4 games. We have wins over IPUPVFWBLT and College of Charleston. We've lost to Racers and Flyers. Barbee's boys are averaging 59 points per game.
Glad we built that kick ass new arena. We rollin' baby. War Jacobs
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So, let's recap this stellar season after 4 games. We have wins over IPUPVFWBLT and College of Charleston. We've lost to Racers and Flyers. Barbee's boys are averaging 59 points per game.
Glad we built that kick ass new arena. We rollin' baby. War Jacobs
We're young. Have some patience.
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So, let's recap this stellar season after 4 games. We have wins over IPUPVFWBLT and College of Charleston. We've lost to Racers and Flyers. Barbee's boys are averaging 59 points per game.
Glad we built that kick ass new arena. We rollin' baby. War Jacobs
Lets keep that ugliness out of the basketball forum please.
And it wouldn't hurt if you had a better attitude, sir. It is very early in the season.
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Lets keep that ugliness out of the basketball forum please.
And it wouldn't hurt if you had a better attitude, sir. It is very early in the season.
I cannot believe you perceived any negativity in my post. I expected us to be 0-4 at this point. We're doing at least 57.4% better than I thought we would.
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I cannot believe you perceived any negativity in my post. I expected us to be 0-4 at this point. We're doing at least 57.4% better than I thought we would.
Now, That's the...spirit...?
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Need better point guard play from Wallace/Greene... penetration and passing off movement is absent. The result is few offensive rebounds and FT attempts.
Only average 10 assists/game as a team.
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Damn. Lost by one point in the final seconds.
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Just for the sake of keeping the thread going (Why, I don't know) we lost to an 0-5 Rhode Island team....at home. Wow, the hits just keep on cummin'.
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Just for the sake of keeping the thread going (Why, I don't know) we lost to an 0-5 Rhode Island team....at home. Wow, the hits just keep on cummin'.
They still have Lamar Odom, right?
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Wow, the hits just keep on cummin'.
You get nekkid pics of Petrino's girlfriend?
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Tonight, AU represents the SEC in the SEC/Big East Challenge against Depaul. For those who care, and I care (It says so on the sign), it will be on tonight on ESPNU. Don't know squat about Depaul. I just know we've sucked so far. As in Lebo's worst years suckage. On paper, this is a fairly talented team with enough upper classmen to be very competitive. But they can't score. It took 3 overtimes to get into the 70's against an 0-5 Rhode Island team. And they still lost.
I guess the "good" news is the schedule after tonight for the next 4-5 games is extremely crappy until they face Illinois. If they're going to get it together, it will have to start then. If not...we may go beyond Lebo bad this year.
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Tonight, AU represents the SEC in the SEC/Big East Challenge against Depaul. For those who care, and I care (It says so on the sign), it will be on tonight on ESPNU. Don't know squat about Depaul. I just know we've sucked so far. As in Lebo's worst years suckage. On paper, this is a fairly talented team with enough upper classmen to be very competitive. But they can't score. It took 3 overtimes to get into the 70's against an 0-5 Rhode Island team. And they still lost.
I guess the "good" news is the schedule after tonight for the next 4-5 games is extremely crappy until they face Illinois. If they're going to get it together, it will have to start then. If not...we may go beyond Lebo bad this year.
http://youtu.be/Xyh-JpWdGmQ
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I watched us play Murray State and I came away with this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4)
and don't expect it get any better.
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Okay...the positive waves. The Dukies are 7-0 and have wins over 3 top 5 teams, plus wins over VCU and Minnesota. Getting surprising play from some newcomers and finally getting some real production out of one of the 12 Plumlee brothers.
Tarheel, not :poke: here. Really asking. What do you see in the Heels this year? Watched a good bit of the Butler game and thought they just got down early and couldn't recover against a pretty good team. I didn't do more than keep switching back to the Indiana game and it kept getting worse and worse. On the other hand, they've pretty much bitch slapped the rest of their schedule. Young and a team to look out for by season's end? Just don't quite have the chemistry yet? I know they're talented as hell.
Watched a pre-season talk with Roy and Coach K and it seemed like both conceded that they were running 2 and 3 behind NC State....who is 4-2 right now. I don't see it.
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Okay...the positive waves. The Dukies are 7-0 and have wins over 3 top 5 teams, plus wins over VCU and Minnesota. Getting surprising play from some newcomers and finally getting some real production out of one of the 12 Plumlee brothers.
Tarheel, not :poke: here. Really asking. What do you see in the Heels this year? Watched a good bit of the Butler game and thought they just got down early and couldn't recover against a pretty good team. I didn't do more than keep switching back to the Indiana game and it kept getting worse and worse. On the other hand, they've pretty much bitch slapped the rest of their schedule. Young and a team to look out for by season's end? Just don't quite have the chemistry yet? I know they're talented as hell.
Watched a pre-season talk with Roy and Coach K and it seemed like both conceded that they were running 2 and 3 behind NC State....who is 4-2 right now. I don't see it.
To keep it brief, I just don't see a spectacular year for the Heels this season; it'll not be a "bad" year but I don't see the strength and finesse yet to win the ACC Championship or finish better than the Elite 8 in the NCAA Championship. Roy Williams has some work to do with a relatively new, young team that has not really played a great deal together so this will be an adjustment year for Carolina, no doubt about it; they'll need some time to see how the cogs, gears, and flywheels work together which may make for a better season later on; and, three, the sport is as competitive as I've ever seen it nationally meaning everybody is bringing their A game every time and there's a lot of great players/teams out there beyond the ACC frontier; you've got to bring your best, always; despite the pedigree, Carolina is no exception. The mixup of the top 3 in the ACC is prolly still Duke, Carolina, and NC State but that will shake-out with Duke on top (:puke:) as regular season play progresses. Not an entirely positive outlook but I think there will be some great college hoops to watch this season.
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To keep it brief, I just don't see a spectacular year for the Heels this season; it'll not be a "bad" year but I don't see the strength and finesse yet to win the ACC Championship or finish better than the Elite 8 in the NCAA Championship. Roy Williams has some work to do with a relatively new, young team that has not really played a great deal together so this will be an adjustment year for Carolina, no doubt about it; they'll need some time to see how the cogs, gears, and flywheels work together which may make for a better season later on; and, three, the sport is as competitive as I've ever seen it nationally meaning everybody is bringing their A game every time and there's a lot of great players/teams out there beyond the ACC frontier; you've got to bring your best, always; despite the pedigree, Carolina is no exception. The mixup of the top 3 in the ACC is prolly still Duke, Carolina, and NC State but that will shake-out with Duke on top (:puke:) as regular season play progresses. Not an entirely positive outlook but I think there will be some great college hoops to watch this season.
I've watched the last two unc games (since I'm kind of a proxy nc fan like snags is with duke) and the thought I got was that they are extremely talented and young but very very raw. They really looked like a talented hs team. Kentucky and unc have the same double edged sword of too much talent most of the time which in turn leaves early to the nba. Calipari seems to adjust better than Roy. And so does coach K. You could see the talent show in the 2nd half of the butler game.
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Here's the thing, though, and why I think teams like NC and Duke and Kansas etc. are always so good. Of course, they've always got great players...that helps a little. Ya think? But they don't prepare for conference play by gorging on cupcakes and padding the record. As I said, Duke has already played 3 top 5 teams, including Kentucky the second game out of the shute. NC has already faced the #1 team in the nation and the program that's made the finals 2 out of the last 3 years. Win or lose, it lets your guys know what it takes to play at that level, especially when you have so much turnover and so many young guys coming in and playing as freshmen right off the bat.
I put Michigan State in that same category except I think their talent level is always a step below the elite teams each year. Izzo plays anybody and everybody each year and I think he gets more out of his players than anyone in the country. You write them off and by tourney time, that's never the match up you want.
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I've watched the last two unc games (since I'm kind of a proxy nc fan like snags is with duke) and the thought I got was that they are extremely talented and young but very very raw. They really looked like a talented hs team. Kentucky and unc have the same double edged sword of too much talent most of the time which in turn leaves early to the nba. Calipari seems to adjust better than Roy. And so does coach K. You could see the talent show in the 2nd half of the butler game.
It is what it is; Roy Williams still has some work to do.
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Here's the thing, though, and why I think teams like NC and Duke and Kansas etc. are always so good. Of course, they've always got great players...that helps a little. Ya think? But they don't prepare for conference play by gorging on cupcakes and padding the record. As I said, Duke has already played 3 top 5 teams, including Kentucky the second game out of the shute. NC has already faced the #1 team in the nation and the program that's made the finals 2 out of the last 3 years. Win or lose, it lets your guys know what it takes to play at that level, especially when you have so much turnover and so many young guys coming in and playing as freshmen right off the bat.
I put Michigan State in that same category except I think their talent level is always a step below the elite teams each year. Izzo plays anybody and everybody each year and I think he gets more out of his players than anyone in the country. You write them off and by tourney time, that's never the match up you want.
I would not disagree with any of that, Snags. Good observations all.
And fuck dook!
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I would not disagree with any of that, Snags. Good observations all.
And fuck dook!
Why do you build me up, buttercup, just to let me down?
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Tonight, AU represents the SEC in the SEC/Big East Challenge against Depaul. For those who care, and I care (It says so on the sign), it will be on tonight on ESPNU. Don't know squat about Depaul. I just know we've sucked so far. As in Lebo's worst years suckage. On paper, this is a fairly talented team with enough upper classmen to be very competitive. But they can't score. It took 3 overtimes to get into the 70's against an 0-5 Rhode Island team. And they still lost.
I guess the "good" news is the schedule after tonight for the next 4-5 games is extremely crappy until they face Illinois. If they're going to get it together, it will have to start then. If not...we may go beyond Lebo bad this year.
Not sure that I like Klaus's clever strategy of using up all of his time-outs before the last five minutes of the game...but it is exciting so far...
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Klaus needs to stick with Ballroom Dancing...
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I would not disagree with any of that, Snags. Good observations all.
And fuck dook!
Fuck the Depaul Blue Demons too.
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Yeah, yeah, I know it's the Auburn hoops thread but I had to say something about the Tarheel game tonight. It's painfully obvious that they need work and lots of it. Where's the leadership on the court? Where's the rhythm? Where's the consistent speed? And 22 turnovers is not going to cut it, period! And this was against UAB in OUR house. It was a win but this display is very unsettling.
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Damn, what is wrong with YOU PEOPLE? AU gets a crucial 64-50 win over arch rival, Furman this weekend. And nothing?
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3 AND 5!!! 3 AND 5!!! 3 AND 5!!!
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So, when is our first game?
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So, when is our first game?
Next year?
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Creed, motherfuckers. Read it.
FAMILY!
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Creed, motherfuckers. Read it.
FAMILY!
You've created your own prison
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You've created your own prison
With arms wide open.
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To our credit, this play made it to the #1 play of the day on SportsCenter.
http://youtu.be/llACo36g2vI
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Nice posterizing slam. AU wins 81-62. Freshman Jordan Price has now hit 11 straight 3's dating back a couple of games. NCAA record is 15 straight. One thing we've definitely been missing for years is a true outside threat. Looks like we may finally have one.
Note: Barbee pulled him after a 3 and Price trash talked the T. Tech bench. Tech had been jawing and Price gave it back to em'. Barbee told his ass to grow up. His quotes in the paper sounded like he got the message. Tigers now 5-5.
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And things get back to normal as the Tigers lose to mighty Winthrop. Next game on the 29th against 10th ranked Illinois in Chicago. Oh joy and rapture. Basketball is horrible in this State. Bammus lost to Mercer College this past weekend. And it wasn't that close.
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Barbee's Barbie's lose another one to drop to 5-7. 2 point loss to Illinois on the road. FSU tomorrow.
The good news is the SEC is full of miserable suckage so we may actually win one more game than our foosballz team did this year.
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This season will be filled with moral victories.
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Barbee's Barbie's lose another one to drop to 5-7. 2 point loss to Illinois on the road. FSU tomorrow.
The good news is the SEC is full of miserable suckage so we may actually win one more game than our foosballz team did this year.
Watched the entire Illinois game. The guys played hard and you could just tell they were outmatched. Was proud of the players for playing hard til the end.
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Good win for the Tiggers last night over FSU. Down 11 with 2:00 to go, FSU decided to foul immediately each and every time. AU shot well over 20 foul shots (Not very well) during that stretch. Good win but bad news for AU as Chris Denson was scratched in pregame warm-ups for a stress fracture in his foot. No telling how long he might be out. Same injury as Jordan Price from last week. Price was the one nailing all the 3's. Here's to getting these guys back quickly.
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Auburn > FSU > Duke
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Auburn > FSU > Duke
You take that back right now.
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Good win for the Tiggers last night over FSU. Down 11 with 2:00 to go, FSU decided to foul immediately each and every time. AU shot well over 20 foul shots (Not very well) during that stretch. Good win but bad news for AU as Chris Denson was scratched in pregame warm-ups for a stress fracture in his foot. No telling how long he might be out. Same injury as Jordan Price from last week. Price was the one nailing all the 3's. Here's to getting these guys back quickly.
I hate that too. Feels like the first time they are actually trying to turn the corner. What fucking bad luck.
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I hate that too. Feels like the first time they are actually trying to turn the corner. What fucking bad luck.
It's Auburn basketball.
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It's Auburn basketball.
Their level of play the last 2 games is the best basketball Ive seen them play in 9 years. Seriously.
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Their level of play the last 2 games is the best basketball Ive seen them play in 9 years. Seriously.
True. And now without the 2 most productive players they had. Damn, I hope they're not out long. Time for some good things to happen for AU round hoops. Long overdue.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuWQfMGjZF4
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57-49 loss to a team with an 8-11 record. Denson and Price are back. No excuses.
What the hell is wrong with Auburn basketball? Is it just jinxed? Destined to be the annual laughing stock of a piss poor league? This team is 8-12 now and 2-5 in the SEC after starting 2-0. Basketball is a game where you can turn a team around with one good recruiting class. A couple of stud players on the floor and some decent coaching and you can be competitive in any league. I turned it on last night with Auburn down 32-31. I watched 3 missed shots by Auburn, including a gimme layup by Denson. They showed a graphic that it was now 9 shots in a row missed by Auburn. I turned it off.
49 points. Another loss. :facepalm:
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BRING BACK CLIFF ELLIS!!!!
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57-49 loss to a team with an 8-11 record. Denson and Price are back. No excuses.
What the hell is wrong with Auburn basketball? Is it just jinxed? Destined to be the annual laughing stock of a piss poor league? This team is 8-12 now and 2-5 in the SEC after starting 2-0. Basketball is a game where you can turn a team around with one good recruiting class. A couple of stud players on the floor and some decent coaching and you can be competitive in any league. I turned it on last night with Auburn down 32-31. I watched 3 missed shots by Auburn, including a gimme layup by Denson. They showed a graphic that it was now 9 shots in a row missed by Auburn. I turned it off.
49 points. Another loss. :facepalm:
I watched most of the game...and it was fucking pathetic. The bad thing, is UGA is TERRIBLE! Just awful. Auburn shot close to 25% from the floor. You just can't win doing that...
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I watched most of the game...and it was fucking pathetic. The bad thing, is UGA is TERRIBLE! Just awful. Auburn shot close to 25% from the floor. You just can't win doing that...
I just don't get it. I like Barbee. I like what he's done to promote the program. He has had his share of attrition but on paper, he seems to be recruting well. He's one of the few coaches we've had where it looks like he actually has a plan....a system in place both offensively and defensively. I just don't understand why this program can't turn the corner.
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I just don't get it. I like Barbee. I like what he's done to promote the program. He has had his share of attrition but on paper, he seems to be recruting well. He's one of the few coaches we've had where it looks like he actually has a plan....a system in place both offensively and defensively. I just don't understand why this program can't turn the corner.
Sorry, but at this level, there is no fucking excuse for hitting .500 from the free throw line. None at all. Easiest thing to practice.
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Sorry, but at this level, there is no fucking excuse for hitting .500 from the free throw line. None at all. Easiest thing to practice.
Would one of you mods please merge this thread with the Special Olympics thread? Mmkthx
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Would one of you mods please merge this thread with the Special Olympics thread? Mmkthx
I think my sons 4/5 year old team could shoot better from the line. At least he wants to go out every day and practice it.
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I just don't get it. I like Barbee. I like what he's done to promote the program. He has had his share of attrition but on paper, he seems to be recruting well. He's one of the few coaches we've had where it looks like he actually has a plan....a system in place both offensively and defensively. I just don't understand why this program can't turn the corner.
I liked Gene Chizik too.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/48/All_Hat.jpg/220px-All_Hat.jpg)
Lebo put us in a bad place, but honestly this is Barbee's team now, that excuse doesn't cut it anymore.
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I think my sons 4/5 year old team could shoot better from the line. At least he wants to go out every day and practice it.
This strikes at the very heart of the demise of basketball in general. (Strikes at the very heart. Damn, that was good)
To get good at shooting free throws, you actually have to stop and concentrate on mechanics. On doing something the right way...the same way every time. That's not what kids want to do. They want to shoot jumpers....launch 3's and find creative ways to slam. We have one basketball goal in one driveway in our neighborhood. I've tried everything I know at my house but my lot slopes so badly that there's no possible way to put one up. This is my get-off-my-lawn moment, but growing up...if there was a kid in the house, there was a goal in the driveway. That's what we did. We played until our parents made us come in or it was too dark to see. We'd play 2 on 2 and HORSE and yes, have free throw contests. We'd shoot 100 and see who made the most.
Yeah, the game today is 10X more athletic and in many respects, more fun to watch. But fundamentally, the game today sux. I posted a while back about going to a local HS tourney about a month ago. First game....2 high flying athletic teams who launched the first 3 they saw or flew to the rack whether there was an opening or not. Entertaining. Second game...one team was badly overmatched athletically. The other team full court pressed from the opening tip. Team 1 broke the press nearly every time without ever taking a dribble. Spacing, movement...fundamentals. Absolutely beautiful.
Anywho...bottom line is we see college studs shooting 50% from the free throw line because neither they nor their coaches give a shit about working on the little things.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI
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This strikes at the very heart of the demise of basketball in general. (Strikes at the very heart. Damn, that was good)
To get good at shooting free throws, you actually have to stop and concentrate on mechanics. On doing something the right way...the same way every time. That's not what kids want to do. They want to shoot jumpers....launch 3's and find creative ways to slam. We have one basketball goal in one driveway in our neighborhood. I've tried everything I know at my house but my lot slopes so badly that there's no possible way to put one up. This is my get-off-my-lawn moment, but growing up...if there was a kid in the house, there was a goal in the driveway. That's what we did. We played until our parents made us come in or it was too dark to see. We'd play 2 on 2 and HORSE and yes, have free throw contests. We'd shoot 100 and see who made the most.
Yeah, the game today is 10X more athletic and in many respects, more fun to watch. But fundamentally, the game today sux. I posted a while back about going to a local HS tourney about a month ago. First game....2 high flying athletic teams who launched the first 3 they saw or flew to the rack whether there was an opening or not. Entertaining. Second game...one team was badly overmatched athletically. The other team full court pressed from the opening tip. Team 1 broke the press nearly every time without ever taking a dribble. Spacing, movement...fundamentals. Absolutely beautiful.
Anywho...bottom line is we see college studs shooting 50% from the free throw line because neither they nor their coaches give a shit about working on the little things.
The spot behind the house was a concrete slap at my house with a basketball goal that everybody on the street came over to play. I guess different times, but during the summer we would stay out there almost all night. Parents knew where we were and could see the lights on and knew we were playing something. Good times that I miss and feel sorry for kids today.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/house-1_zpsfc509b77.jpg)
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At least our football team is goo... Fuck my life.
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Nail...meet hammer. No need to go into it all. Suffice it to say that kids have 100 times more entertainment choices than we had. And 8 out of 11 or 99% of those are indoors. I'm as guilty as anyone because I have a 12 year old who can kick everyone's ass in X-Station360BoxAtariGuitarWiiHero. Couldn't hit 2 out of 10 free throws. Doesn't want to hit anymore than that. Doesn't interest him. No one gets killed and no monsters, ninjas or cool graphics while pulling up for a 15 foot jumper.
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Nail...meet hammer. No need to go into it all. Suffice it to say that kids have 100 times more entertainment choices than we had. And 8 out of 11 or 99% of those are indoors. I'm as guilty as anyone because I have a 12 year old who can kick everyone's ass in X-Station360BoxAtariGuitarWiiHero. Couldn't hit 2 out of 10 free throws. Doesn't want to hit anymore than that. Doesn't interest him. No one gets killed and no monsters, ninjas or cool graphics while pulling up for a 15 foot jumper.
Afternoon ramble and speaking for the old farts club I really hate this new world sometimes; basketball used to be such a great game, youth are really missing out on some fundamentals of three dimensional thinking and basic mechanics in learning it; still is a great game, I suppose, but this season I'm seeing some awful playing generally, terrible even; and nothing, I mean nothing, makes me go more ballistic than missed free throws. There's no excuse short of anxiety and lack of confidence and that can be overcome with...PRACTICE! Made my blood pressure shoot up again. Dammit.
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Nail...meet hammer. No need to go into it all. Suffice it to say that kids have 100 times more entertainment choices than we had. And 8 out of 11 or 99% of those are indoors. I'm as guilty as anyone because I have a 12 year old who can kick everyone's ass in X-Station360BoxAtariGuitarWiiHero. Couldn't hit 2 out of 10 free throws. Doesn't want to hit anymore than that. Doesn't interest him. No one gets killed and no monsters, ninjas or cool graphics while pulling up for a 15 foot jumper.
I’m really fixing to “Get off my lawn†on ya. I really think (JMO-I have no kids) that the upcoming Gen Zer’s or whatever they are called are gonna be the first generation in a long time to be unhealthier than their parents. As our parents were growing up smoking was the big popular thing to do and as we got smarter medically we learned that it was very bad and would kill you (my mom smoked all her life and died young) as our generation learned not do it, we also evolved that we need to keep moving and exercising, eating healthy, and staying fit for a longer and better life.
You know you always hear people talk about being young again and back in school, if I could go back to my time, sure, but not in today’s current time world. My biggest fear was getting my ass kicked, not getting shot.
Now quit playing grab ass and get back to work. (as my dad would say)
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I want Snaggle to regale us with the story of how cornmeal came to be.
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I want Snaggle to regale us with the story of how cornmeal came to be.
I don't know about cornemal, but can help with school, winter and uphill.
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I want Snaggle to regale us with the story of how cornmeal came to be.
I bet somebody got cornholed.
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I bet somebody got cornholed.
Speaking of cornhole, I will kick anybody's ass in that game. And...I do the baddest ass cornhole dance after making a shot.
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I do the baddest ass cornhole.
I bet you do.
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I bet you do.
I'll do a dance afterward :monkey: :dance2:
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I'll do a dance afterward :monkey: :dance2:
Oh yeah? Well, do you know your cornhole terminology? Like: dirty bag, hooker and Blocker ( An ace that lands in front of the hole, essentially blocking the hole from sliders)? A Duberstein is when a "player"gets 4 bags in the hole in one round. I bet you've never done that, at least in this setting.
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I want Snaggle to regale us with the story of how cornmeal came to be.
Who here likes a good story about a bridge?
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This strikes at the very heart of the demise of basketball in general. (Strikes at the very heart. Damn, that was good)
To get good at shooting free throws, you actually have to stop and concentrate on mechanics. On doing something the right way...the same way every time. That's not what kids want to do. They want to shoot jumpers....launch 3's and find creative ways to slam. We have one basketball goal in one driveway in our neighborhood. I've tried everything I know at my house but my lot slopes so badly that there's no possible way to put one up. This is my get-off-my-lawn moment, but growing up...if there was a kid in the house, there was a goal in the driveway. That's what we did. We played until our parents made us come in or it was too dark to see. We'd play 2 on 2 and HORSE and yes, have free throw contests. We'd shoot 100 and see who made the most.
Yeah, the game today is 10X more athletic and in many respects, more fun to watch. But fundamentally, the game today sux. I posted a while back about going to a local HS tourney about a month ago. First game....2 high flying athletic teams who launched the first 3 they saw or flew to the rack whether there was an opening or not. Entertaining. Second game...one team was badly overmatched athletically. The other team full court pressed from the opening tip. Team 1 broke the press nearly every time without ever taking a dribble. Spacing, movement...fundamentals. Absolutely beautiful.
Anywho...bottom line is we see college studs shooting 50% from the free throw line because neither they nor their coaches give a shoot about working on the little things.
Kids on teams today shoot threes and layups/dunks because that is what the coaches want to see. Just as advanced stats took over baseball it is starting to happen to basketball. People realized that the best shots (in terms of offensive efficiency) are from 0-5 feet and from the three point line. Anything in between and unless you are shooting 67% is not worth it.
But on the other side, being a good shooter can take you far. I have very little athletic ability and am about 6' tall. I lettered 4 years in high school basketball because I was a lights out shooter. I was a below average ball handler and an average passer but in the 4th quarter I was the designated "inbound the ball to him" guy when the other team was fouling because I was a 90% free throw shooter.
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Kids on teams today shoot threes and layups/dunks because that is what the coaches want to see. Just as advanced stats took over baseball it is starting to happen to basketball. People realized that the best shots (in terms of offensive efficiency) are from 0-5 feet and from the three point line. Anything in between and unless you are shooting 67% is not worth it.
But on the other side, being a good shooter can take you far. I have very little athletic ability and am about 6' tall. I lettered 4 years in high school basketball because I was a lights out shooter. I was a below average ball handler and an average passer but in the 4th quarter I was the designated "inbound the ball to him" guy when the other team was fouling because I was a 90% free throw shooter.
Pfft. you would have been the lonely white guy in my day. We did not have a three point line. :-(
So anything shot from "out there" was a hail Mary to my coaches......
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Pfft. you would have been the lonely white guy in my day. We did not have a three point line. :-(
So anything shot from "out there" was a hail Mary to my coaches......
What sound does the ball make when it hits the peach basket?
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What sound does the ball make when it hits the peach basket?
The shorts were so short it gave a whole new meaning to double dribbling.
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The shorts were so short it gave a whole new meaning to double dribbling.
The only time that I was allowed to play back then was in really cold gyms.
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Mizzou extends our losing streak to 7 with a 91-77 win in Columbia.
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Mizzou extends our losing streak to 7 with a 91-77 win in Columbia.
Can Dameyune Craig recruit basketball players?
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Our goal is to be peaking come tournament time.
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Our goal is to be peaking come tournament time.
in 2014?
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in 2014?
Pfft...I think this team is a definite lock for either the CBI or the CIT.
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in 2014?
No, silly. AU Intramurals tourney, this year.
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No, silly. AU Intramurals tourney, this year.
So we might qualify for a first round bye?
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So we might qualify for a first round bye?
Fingers crossed.
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No, silly. AU Intramurals tourney, this year.
Hope we don't draw the Sigma Chi's in the first round. I heard they have a mean front court.
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Hope we don't draw the Sigma Chi's in the first round. I heard they have a mean front court.
I hope they can shoot free throws after Chubb fouls the shit out of them.
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Hope we don't draw the Sigma Chi's in the first round. I heard they have a mean front court.
You know what, we will beat the Sigma Chi's ass, even though they are taller and shoot better. AU Men's basketball gots more plays! You know what I'm sayin. AND, we play in the SEC, which...well, nevermind.
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As banged up as our guards are, you really think we have a chance to consistently break Chi's press?
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In hoc, bitches.
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We have a basketball team?
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We have a basketball team?
nope
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That punk bastard Cam is at the game. Can you believe he is sitting in the student section. Attention whore. But he would never come back to AU
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That punk bastard Cam is at the game. Can you believe he is sitting in the student section. Attention whore. But he would never come back to AU
Cheerleader Cam!
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That punk bastard Cam is at the game. Can you believe he is sitting in the student section. Attention whore. But he would never come back to AU
Great to see him back on campus (finishing his degree) and mixing it up with the kids.
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After watching us on offense, I wanted to slit my nuts. God it is fucking painful watching us on O.
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Great to see him back on campus (finishing his degree) and mixing it up with the kids.
It was cool to see him get to enjoy "college life" as a regular student. Well as regular of a student that he can be.
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It was cool to see him get to enjoy "college life" as a regular student. Well as regular of a student that he can be.
Exactly.
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CAPTION THIS
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Yo coach Malz I gots to tell you that is the ugliest shirt this side of Chizik's closet.
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CAPTION THIS
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Say coach did I tell you the one about the Rabbi, the Preist, and the colored boy?
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CAPTION THIS
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Yo coach Malz I gots to tell you that is the ugliest shirt this side of Chizik's closet.
So coach, you gonna help me sell my Cammy Cam juice or what?
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CAPTION THIS
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Hey Coach, check out that booger on my thumb. You ever seen one that color?
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CAPTION THIS
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So then I says 150k yoooooo crazy. Can we make it $180k and they thought I was serious.
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CAPTION THIS
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Hey coach, you mind if I dance wif yo daughter?
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After watching us on offense, I wanted to slit my nuts. God it is fucking painful watching us on O.
If only your fanbase would actually do that, we wouldn't have to worry about you multiplying into future generations of inbreds.
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Went to Beef O'Brady's last night for supper. Didn't even realize AU/UA were playing until I got there and the entire first half was in my face with 40+ TV's. Scoring 13 points in the first half against Bama all in surround sound/vision was enough to make it one of the worst meals I've ever had. Didn't realize we had won until I was about to go to bed and saw the score. There was no way I was heading home to catch the second half of that abortion. Glad we won, but damn...just damn.
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You missed a good second half.
Chubb still sucks.
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CAPTION THIS
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Coach...suck this.
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You missed a good second half.
Chubb still sucks.
Are you kidding? He's like a white Larry Bird. With one leg.
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CAPTION THIS
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Coach smell this...I had it in your wife this morning.
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CAPTION THIS
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I got it this deep in McElroy's sister.
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CAPTION THIS
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Gus, thats not the way you do the shocker.
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CAPTION THIS
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That little bitch behind you in the sundress and boots. Yeah, her. She just told me she wants to suck the Cam Juice out of me while I sing Usher songs to her.
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CAPTION THIS
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No shit, Brah... You spray Deer Antler juice right here.
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:clap:
Post by a bama fan on secrant.com(thought it was great)
Congrats, auburn. You've done it. You've rustled my jimmies. (Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:37 p.m.)
I have to give credit where it's due.
This was supposed to be OVER. We just kicked the crap out of you two Iron Bowls in a row, your team was having trouble making it out of the tunnel without falling on itself, Malzahn's nutjob wife was back at auburn, and life was good. I mean GOOD.
Then HE came back.
At least, last time we knew what to expect. This time, he was wearing a sweater and sitting in the stands. If he had a book or a class attendance record, you'd swear he was a student. And just when Alabama's hoops miscreants looked like we were going to roll on over you yet again, it happened.
He smiled. He shouted. And with all the forces of misappropriated church offerings and mandingo fantasies at his fingertips, he struck. We got CAMMED.
He was supposed to be gone. Other than a few ESPN NFL talk shows, this nightmare was supposed to be over. I was never expecting to see HIM again, unless I accidentally woke up early and left the tv on The Sports Reporters. I made my peace with God, and I forgave Him for 2010 with the understanding I would never have to look on that smug, evil smiling face again.
Now I can't even sit up straight. My coffee tastes like kerosene, my head is swelling like a tidal wave, and my jimmies are so out of place it feels like I have a permanent wedgie. I don't get it. I just don't understand it. WHAT DID WE DO TO DESERVE THIS!!??
There's nothing left to do, but put on a straw hat, burn some incense to Saban, and trust the process. Just keep chanting....process.....process.....process....serenity now....process....
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Can you believe Tim Jackson followed me to the bafroom and asked if I need him to help wid anything. He creep me out coach.
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http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2013/02/cam-newton-auburn-intramural-basketball-star/
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Al.com quickly buried this story.
I wasn't even aware AU had won until this morning and I discovered it quite by accident.
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:clap:
I doubt that was really a Bama fan. Just sayin.
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http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2013/02/cam-newton-auburn-intramural-basketball-star/
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That's...not fair.
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That's...not fair.
Perhaps he can play for our basketball team, he has eligibility left.
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Alright sports fans. Tonight is a titanic match up as Auburn looks for revenge against Arkansas in a contest of....
Oh, what the hell? I don't have the heart.
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Alright sports fans. Tonight is a titanic match up as Auburn looks for revenge against Arkansas in a contest of....
Oh, what the hell? I don't have the heart.
Neither does Auburn...
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Skreets are saying that Barbee was very late getting to his postgame presser and had very little to say.
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Skreets are saying that Barbee was very late getting to his postgame presser and had very little to say.
I watched as little of it as I could get away with. Holy shit, they're awful. I kept flipping back and forth between that and other games. Watched Denson or somebody left handed shoot a wide open three and if the backboard wasn't there, he would have taken out a fan in row 16. Never even came close to the rim. Watched 3 free throws clank off with no possible chance of going in. Saw Chubb throw an elbow and chicken wing a defender on a "block out" to give Arky a 4-point play. What the hell?
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We had them to 6 with 3 minutes left..it was a moral victory.
We are 20-4 with moral victories. I think the tournament staff looks at those....right?
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Barbie should be fired along with Jacobs.
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Barbie should be fired along with Jacobs.
Leave Jacobs the hell alone, people.
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Barbie should be fired along with Jacobs.
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snickles
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Heeeey girl! I gots something for you to do.
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Heeeey girl! I gots something for you to do.
Da'Kenta is going to be pissed.
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:thumsup:
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GF, do you have her number? twitter-handle? Compu-Serve User ID?
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Da'Kenta is going to be pissed.
I think you mean Toby...
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GF, do you have her number? twitter-handle? Compu-Serve User ID?
www.toysrus.com
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www.toysrus.com
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I love brown sugar.
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I love brown sugar.
I seen 'er first!
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Well, the 52 against UF is better than the 50 we put up against Furman earlier in the season. That's about the only positive from todays 31 pt. butt kicking I see. I didn't go to the game and had intended to do the PPV but by the time I started to order, UF had us by about 14 pts and I thankfully saved my 20 bucks.
BTW, Gaytors appear to be really good.
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We have the sucks on the hardwood. :puke:
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Aaaannnd Auburn shoots 26% in the second half and scores a grand total of 56 points to lose again...at home against Texas A&M. 9-17 and 3-10 in the SEC. I believe at one point, this team was 8-7 and 2-0 in the league.
Obviously, this season is kaput, just like the last 10 or 12 or 15 seasons. What the hayull is wrong with Auburn basketball? New arena. Great place to watch a game. Tony Barbee comes in with some hype and a good reputation. Seems to have a plan on and off the court. Looks, on paper anyway, like he's recruiting well enough to turn this thing around. So what's the problem? This team is now as bad as any group that Jeff Lame-O ever put on the floor. 9-17??? 1 SEC win in their last 11 games??? Not that these guys were very good last year, but I had some pretty good expectations for this team with several very experienced seniors and what was supposed to be a good recruiting class coming in. Plus, this league is reeeeeally schnitty. We may sneak 3 teams in the Dance. Maybe.
It's sad when the best thing that's happened so far is that being totally void of any gooderness, brings down Bama's RPI as they try to make the tourney. :facepalm:Do you realize as crappy as they are, they're tied for first in the league? I just don't understand how this team...this program can remain the worst in the SEC and one of the baddester in the whole country for so long. Do we clean house again and try starting over? Do we ride Barbee another year or two? I have no clue because I see nothing to say this team will do anything different next year.
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I think you've got to give him one more year.
And get a bucket of KFC, because we need to appease Jobu.
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I think you've got to give him one more year.
And get a bucket of KFC, because we need to appease Jobu.
Can Jobu hit a jumper from 15 feet?
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The problem is we didn't hire the REAL Barbi....
husband, devoted father, wine connoisseur, and three time ballroom dancing champion.
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Do we ride Barbee another year or two? I have no clue because I see nothing to say this team will do anything different next year.
I say give him 2 more seasons, regardless of what happens next season. What the hell is it gonna hurt? I think that it would be very hard to get another coach with as much potential/pedigree/etc.
I'm frustrated and maybe we should cut the cord. But, I think it will be easier to get a winning program with Barbee than if we start over--again. In retro--we screwed the pooch by demanding that Anderson do an on campus interview while he was at UAB. I can completely understand why he did not want to do that and it's ludicrous to demand that of him. We needed him more than he needed us, imo. I don't know if he would have us turned around but I thought he had the best shot at it. He knows the conference and landscape better and he's one hell of a coach.
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I read a stat at lunch that last night, Barbee made 44 substitutions. 44 in a 40 minute game.
I don't think that's normal
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I read a stat at lunch that last night, Barbee made 44 substitutions. 44 in a 40 minute game.
I don't think that's normal
It's auburn basketball. :haha:
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This thread should be renamed. "Please, God, make it stop!", or "Fucks sake; how many more fucking games are there in this fucking season?" kind of sound nice, doncha thank?
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I think you've got to give him one more year.
And get a bucket of KFC, because we need to appease Jobu.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
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There is nothing like a little round ball this time of the year. I remember walking into Beard Eaves and hearing the squeak of the shoes and the swish of the net during practice. Now, it's just the squeak of the shoes.
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I read a stat at lunch that last night, Barbee made 44 substitutions. 44 in a 40 minute game.
I don't think that's normal
I'm sure you know this but substitutions are a good strategy to keep your starters fresh and out of foul trouble (assuming that you actually have great subs); there's an art to master in this strategy...but 44...if it is an Art then Barbee must be using the Jackson Pollock method.
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This team is just a shooter away from being a tournament team.
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This team is just a shooter away from being a tournament team.
A sniper picking off opposing players?
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A sniper picking off opposing players?
Technically, we'd need a team of 12 shooters to take out the starting 5 and the bench too.
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A sniper picking off opposing players?
I was thinking of our own guys...but that works too.
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How hard is it to find one white guy to hang out around the 3-point line and do nothing but net?
Where is a Pohlman when you need him?
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Barbee needs to search far and wide for a guy like Gerald White and match him with a Frank Ford kind of do everything big guard. We can get guys that can jump through the roof but we have no one on the floor to corral them in when they start running rabid and a good floor boss is a good start so some chemistry can develop.
Find these two, let them control the tempo and substitute the others until you find the right combinations.
We need a gym rat and a playground hero (start in the northeast) to be an extention of Barbee, not some Atlanta kids that just add to the stupidity of it all.
God southern basketball sucks.
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I knew I was going to jinx us when I said we looked like we turned the corner after the close Illinois loss. :facepalm:
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Barbee needs to search far and wide for a guy like Gerald White and match him with a Frank Ford kind of do everything big guard. We can get guys that can jump through the roof but we have no one on the floor to corral them in when they start running rabid and a good floor boss is a good start so some chemistry can develop.
Find these two, let them control the tempo and substitute the others until you find the right combinations.
We need a gym rat and a playground hero (start in the northeast) to be an extention of Barbee, not some Atlanta kids that just add to the stupidity of it all.
God southern basketball sucks.
Well, you have to look at the right conference...I won't say anything else so as not to offend the :sec: faithful.
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Well, you have to look at the right conference...I won't say anything else so as not to offend the :sec: faithful.
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Well, you have to look at the right conference...I won't say anything else so as not to offend the :sec: faithful.
Well, there is absolutely zero doubt that the ACC is head and shoulders and knees and toes above us in basketball. There is a bigger distance right now than in any point in my life that I can remember. We have and will be competitive again in basketball and still have a few teams that could make a decent showing in the tourney.
I think it has something to do with these kids and coaches being told it's a football conference so much that they believe it. It pisses me off because although football is very important to me and the most exciting to watch, I still love going to baseball and basketball games just as much. And I expect better performances than AU and most of the SEC has been able to muster up.
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Well, there is absolutely zero doubt that the ACC is head and shoulders and knees and toes above us in basketball. There is a bigger distance right now than in any point in my life that I can remember. We have and will be competitive again in basketball and still have a few teams that could make a decent showing in the tourney.
I think it has something to do with these kids and coaches being told it's a football conference so much that they believe it. It pisses me off because although football is very important to me and the most exciting to watch, I still love going to baseball and basketball games just as much. And I expect better performances than AU and most of the SEC has been able to muster up.
Regarding the highlighted statement above if it's not obvious I'd make it so by saying the same thing about the SEC when it comes to football.
I enjoy college football games; baseball is just a yawner for me all around, sorry, I just can't get into it, thinking about it even makes me drowsy; but, college basketball is definitely a sport that I love most, the energy, the verticality (I made that up), the speed, the tempo, the tactics...especially on "Tobacco Road"...nothing like it.
There's a lot of potential that several SEC schools have (and a historic pedigree for some!); I too was hoping better for AU after the most recent coach hire and the opening of the new venue (I'm still hoping); apparently it's going to take some more change we can believe in.
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apparently it's going to take some more change we can believe in.
Granted, this is about a year old, but still applicable...
http://bigbluebagel.blogspot.com/2012/01/was-1999-really-that-long-ago.html
Was 1999 Really That Long Ago?
After watching the debacle live from Nashville this past Saturday, it seemed like much longer than 13 years since Auburn beat Vanderbilt in Beard-Eaves Memorial Coliseum to win the SEC regular season championship and capture a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Just what has transpired in the last 13 years?
A better question might be, where do you start? Five years removed from that amazing season, Auburn Coach Cliff Ellis was fired, amidst controversy. The Tigers had struggled to a 14-14 finish (5-11 in the SEC) in 2003-04 but were one year removed from a Sweet 16 appearance, where they lost to eventual national champion Syracuse and Carmelo Anthony by one point.
Ellis was 186-125 at Auburn. Modest numbers, yes. But he had built something. And there is little doubt that the Tigers were going to be much better in 2004-2005 with the bulk of the team returning. Upon Ellis’s annual meeting with then President Ed Richardson, he was told before he could even sit down “Cliff, you’re not coming back.†Most will agree that Ellis’s dismissal had little to do with wins and losses but much more to do with an NCAA investigation, that was anything but on the up and up.
AAU Basketball had really taken the basketball recruiting world by storm in the mid-90’s and early 2000’s. Ellis had Auburn right in the mix. Auburn recruited heavily from Mark Komara, director of Southeast Elite, and a former shooting guard at Alabama-Huntsville. Komara was a big time player in the AAU world and was tight with Sonny Vaccaro, the controversial sports marketing executive, who signed Michael Jordan to Nike.
The NCAA wanted Vaccaro, not Auburn. After the NCAA went after Vaccaro and came up with egg on their face, their attention turned to Ellis and the Tiger program and Komara, whose relationship with Vaccaro was well known on the AAU circuit. Auburn was the convenient fall guy. The new kid on the block. The claim was that Auburn had given large sums of money and expensive cars to recruits Jackie Butler and Chad Moore of Huntsville. That could not be proven and Auburn assistant, Shannon Weaver who was the target of much of these claims, was completely exonerated. So what did the NCAA find?
They allege that Komara acted as a representative of Auburn in the recruitment of Butler and Moore. Komara was the first AAU basketball coach ever deemed a representative of a university. Auburn was then barred from recruiting Komara’s players. “Taking away recruiting from Komara is like taking away 70 percent of the high schools in Alabama away from football,†a former Auburn basketball staff member told The Bagel.
“Cliff took it as far as he could take it at Auburn. He had to ruffle feathers to get it done,†he continued. “Once the administration was pissed off, that was it. It wasn’t going to end pretty and the Komara (expletive) was all the ammo they needed.â€
Enter Jeff Lebo. Lebo, a former star at North Carolina, came to Auburn from Chattanooga with high praises from the likes of hall of Fame coaches Dean Smith and Roy Williams. Though not Auburn’s first target, it appeared Lebo had the pedigree. However, after numerous transfers and six seasons with only one NIT to show for it, Lebo was shown the door, as Auburn was ready to usher in a new arena.
Lebo did things the right way. He was known as straight laced and would not lend his name to anything remotely shady. Almost immediately, fans (and there are not many Auburn basketball fans) took a dislike to Lebo. He was deemed as not an “Auburn man.†While Lebo did not recruit well and did not turn out many wins, his teams competed.
Auburn’s administration, though many to not want to hear it, did not help Lebo either. Besides the Komara ban, they prostituted the basketball program in 2005 when they signed a contract with Under Armour, an upstart apparel company based out of Baltimore, MD. The multi-million dollar contract, was a boost for football, but it left basketball out in the cold. When Auburn initially signed with Under Armour, there was not one AAU team affiliated with Under Armour. Lebo had to take what he could get and the results showed on the court.
AAU basketball is linked to shoe companies. At least the good ones are. And the heavy hitters are Nike and Adidas. The novice fan would tell you, “Shoes don’t matter.†So, I took a list of the Top 100 players to see how many players' AAU shoe affiliation matched the college they signed with. Here are the results:
-71% of the Top 100
-84% of the Top 25
-78% 0f the Top 50
*Three players played for independent AAU teams.
*Some players played on multiple AAU teams but I matched them with the most influential.
Enter Tony Barbee. As the new era was ushered in, fans were excited. Barbee came to Auburn from Texas –El Paso (UTEP) with the credentials to match. A John Calipari disciple, Barbee had played for Calipari at UMass, and coached for him at both UMass and Memphis, with a stint at Wyoming in between.
Barbee’s magnetic personality was a breath of fresh air to the throngs of fans, who were tired of Lebo and tired of losing. He hit the ground running and immediately signed Josh Langford, the state’s #1 ranked player and a product of Lee High School in Huntsville. But more interestingly was Barbee’s other initial signee, Luke Cothron, who was finishing up prep school in North Carolina but whose AAU affiliation was none other than Mark Komara.
The irony in this was that in a February 19, 2010 article by Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham News, Auburn Associate AD and Compliance Director when asked if then coach Jeff Lebo could recruit through Komara, was quoted as saying “"Because of previous NCAA issues, we cannot comment."
Cothron was never admitted to Auburn and fans were left scratching their heads as to what was going on. I asked a basketball support staff member in the summer of 2010 about recruiting through Komara. His response was “That’s over and done. We need to move on and find new avenues. The administration will never let that happen.â€
What becomes more interesting is what went on in the following months upon Barbee’s arrival and upon Cothron’s denial into the university. Komara’s son Anthony became a walk-on with the basketball team. However, it only lasted a few weeks. The Auburn administration informed the basketball program that young Komara could not be part of the program, and he was asked to leave immediately.
An associate of Komara’s , who is also an Auburn graduate and long time Auburn basketball supporter told me, on conditions of anonymity that Barbee was not leveled with on the up and up when he was hired at Auburn. This includes a new deal with Under Armour, which was ironically secretly signed before Lebo was fired, as well as the Komara situation.
One of Barbee’s first stops when he came to The Plains ,if not the first was in Huntsville, to see Komara. “Barbee had a two year plan. It could have easily been different last year and this year and especially next year if the AD and the Compliance folks had even half-way co-operated with Barbee during his first year. No more,†the gentleman said.
Barbee’s first season came and went. Other than the new arena and an appearance by the Harlem Globetrotters at the grand opening, there was little to get excited about. Auburn limped to an 11-20 season but did manage to win four SEC games and score a huge upset over eventual Sweet 16 team Florida State. So suffice it to say, entering this season optimism wasn’t high.
That seemed to have turned though as Auburn won its first four games, albeit against less than stellar competition in McNeese State, Kennesaw State, Nicholls State, and Arkansas-Pine Bluff. An 81-59 loss at Seton Hall dampened the few fiery spirits and there has been little to get excited about since, as Auburn is 10-5, with four of those losses being by plus 20.
Auburn hosts Kentucky Wednesday night, fresh off that 65-35 debacle at Vanderbilt. Is it just me, or does 1999 seems like 1959?
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FINAL GAME SAT AT 4:30 PM VS. MISS ST!!!! Get your tickets while you can, if there are any even left. I shouldn't joke. 8 straight conference losses. I had two games circled to attend this year. Didn't make either. I used to make as many as possible and enjoyed taking the kiddos. I don't like being a fair-weather fan but evidently, I'm a fair-weather fan. :facepalm:
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Since 1964, 5 SEC programs have gone winless in football AND finished last place in men's basketball. Auburn's No. 6 if it loses Saturday.
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9-21, 3-14 SEC; have lost 14 of 15 games. Worst stretch in almost 70 years
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Lebo Barbee just needs more time.
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Lebo Barbee Tuberville Chizik Pawlawski Jacobs just needs more time.
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And your money.
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Since 1964, 5 SEC programs have gone winless in football AND finished last place in men's basketball. Auburn's No. 6 if it loses Saturday.
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9-21, 3-14 SEC; have lost 14 of 15 games. Worst stretch in almost 70 years
Also heard on sportscall that auburn has now had three 20 loss seasons in basketball. Barbee owns 2 of them. But is he the problem? Or is he working for the problem?
I hope JJ retired end of the year. I know he is eligible to and have heard the rumors. Fingers crossed.
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And your money.
We need to call J.G. Wentworth.
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We need to call J.G. Wentworth.
877-CASHNOW
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877-CASHNOW
We have an Athletic Director that needs to be canned now
Call JG Wentworth, 877-CASHNOW
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We have an Athletic Director that needs to be canned now
Call JG Wentworth, 877-CASHNOW
I was told all phone lines are busy due to a serious influx of calls. They followed that with the newly created Jay Jacobs refund hotline.
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We have an Athletic Director that needs to be canned now
Call JG Wentworth, 877-CASHNOW
Am I the only one that just sang that to myself?
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Am I the only one that just sang that to myself?
No
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Am I the only one that just sang that to myself?
No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGp2J4G9MAc
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Alright folks, it's SEC tourney time. The Tigers open with TA&M. I think we can handle them pretty easily. The only team I see giving us any real problems is Florida. I just don't think we match up well. If they have a hot shooting night, the Gators could pull off the upset. Unlikely, but I've seen stranger things happen.
Do you think we'll get the #1 seed in the East or South Regional? It'd be a travesty to get sent out West. But, you know good and well there's a definite bias with most of the selection committee being a bunch of Yankees. Selection Sunday should be exciting.
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You fuckin up the rotation
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THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout. SEC, baby.
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I always knew we'd get this thing turned around.
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We talked a bit about AU's recruiting for the upcoming season. Just went back and looked and unfortunately, there's absolutely nothing there that indicates anything will get better. They have 5 guys committed, 4 of which have signed their LOI. One guard has not. Of the 4....3 of them are 3 stars and one is unrated. One of the players signed is our incoming QB, Jeremy Johnson. The unsigned guard is a 3 star too.
Friday, JJacobs came out and gave Barbee the dreaded vote of confidence, saying they would work together to improve the program. I'm actually kind of numb or maybe just apathetic concerning our BB team. Is firing Barbee the answer? Looks like it. If these guys have signed LOI's, then we're stuck with them no matter who the corch is. They may turn out to be great players, but we have a 9-145 ball club and four 3-star guys coming in to turn it around.
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I really don't give a fuck anymore. This is the first time in forever where I really don't even care about watching March Madness, either. Although by Thursday, that may change, this weekend is usually one of my favorite sports weekends, but after the football season, and then the basketball season... fuck college sports.
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I really don't give a fuck anymore. This is the first time in forever where I really don't even care about watching March Madness, either. Although by Thursday, that may change, this weekend is usually one of my favorite sports weekends, but after the football season, and then the basketball season... fuck college sports.
Agree...or something...whatever.
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Agree...or something...whatever.
meh
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meh
tl;dr
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I really don't give a fuck anymore. This is the first time in forever where I really don't even care about watching March Madness, either. Although by Thursday, that may change, this weekend is usually one of my favorite sports weekends, but after the football season, and then the basketball season... fuck college sports.
It's getting dangerously close to the point where being an Auburn fan is like being a Troy "fan".
"Yeah, I went to school there, and it'd be great if we could ever beat a real team, but I'm going to have to pick another school to pull for if I want to continue giving a shit about college sports."
Thanks, Jay. I always wondered what being a Tulane "fan" felt like.
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I know...tl;dr. Over the past few weeks, the big topic on talk shows around the State has obviously been the suckage of the overall AU Athletic program. One thing I keep hearing talk show hosts say over and over is "You just don't hear the outrage from Auburn people over the failures of the basketball program that you'd expect." Even heard Max Howell say they'd had more calls from Alabama fans wanting Anthony Grant gone than AU fans being pissed about Barbie. I don't know, one way or another if that's true. However....look at the following:
Sonny Smith SEC Record. 84-114
Tommy Joe Eagles 29-55
Cliff Ellis 73-87
Jeff Lebo 36-61
Tony Barbee 12-32
Sonny Smith had 5 NCAA appearances and made the Elite 8 back in 85' if memory serves. Cliff Ellis had 3 seasons of 20+ wins and set a State record for wins with 29 but that team get raped in the Sweet 16. Otherwise, he was a perrenial NIT participant.
That folks....is the full extent of success for Auburn basketball for roughly the last 30 plus years. Not one coach with even close to a winning record in the SEC. With the exception of a couple of 2-3 year runs where Auburn basketball was competitive, we've pretty much been one of the worst programs in the nation. It is what it is. So, why are Auburn fans not jumping up and down about Tony Barbee? Because we've been there, done that more times than we care to count. They could fire him right now and go hire the next, young hot coach. But is that going to change things or cause any excitement in the fanbase?
I liked Barbee. Thought it was a great hire. Loved everything he was doing, or trying to do. Why it hasn't worked, I have no clue. It just hasn't and it's the same old song and dance there, Aerosmith. I think it's come down to Auburn fans saying show me something to get excited about and we'll back you. Put any kind of product on the floor and we'll come watch. Until that happens...meh.
What I do find ironic is that we've taken some heat for not being up in arms about Barbee, but let us demand excellence from our football staff, and we're called lunatic fringe fans and should know our place. After all, it's just Auburn.
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What I do find ironic is that we've taken some heat for not being up in arms about Barbee, but let us demand excellence from our football staff, and we're called lunatic fringe fans and should know our place. After all, it's just Auburn.
THIS.
It's fucking ridiculous. Jacobs is a goddamn joke. He has driven our entire athletics department into a firey grave, and all that half of the Auburn fanbase can do is thump the creed and tell you you're being "a bammer" for pointing out how cartoonishly bad every single sport at Auburn is.
It shouldn't even be a debate anymore. We are awful at everything. At what fucking point is it ok to say something about it? It literally cannot get much worse than where we are standing right now. After football and basketball wrapped up, and a series in SEC baseball behind us, we're now looking at 2 total SEC wins, both in basketball, who placed dead last in both the schedule and the tournament standings.
We are a fucking joke.
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Love that Bama is mocking us relentlessly.
And it's all falling on deaf ears to the people that can make the fucking bleeding stop.
http://bamahammer.com/2013/03/19/your-weekly-auburn-zen-jay-jacobs-edition/
It’s that time again, where we check in on the farm by taking a look at what they’re saying on the Auburn message boards. All the talk these days has to do with their loser leader, Athletics Director Jay Jacobs.
I’m sure Jay is a swell guy, but just being a good guy doesn’t cut it in the professional world. In any other profession, if an employee’s three biggest projects, accounts, cases, etc. were complete disasters, that employee would be shown the door. The three major sports at Auburn are cumulatively the worst they have ever been in my lifetime, and quite possibly in the history of Auburn athletics. I don’t understand why Jay gets to keep his job when he has caused a train wreck in what was at one time a respectable athletic program. Does he have compromising pictures of a majority of the BOT? Fire Jay Jacobs yesterday.
3-27 – SEC record for the major men’s sports so far. Has any program ANYWHERE finished last in all sports in their conference? No worries though. JJ is a good Auburn man, the eagle files good, and we love us some Creed.
Hate to say it, but there is a bammer website that keeps up with Auburn and apparently it is now more than 500 days since we have won an SEC football game, last time in October, 2011. Didn’t know that.
Moore has been athletic directory since 1999. He hired Franny, Shula, Price. He led the turds to several NCAA probations in almost every sport. He’s lucky he still has a job even if it is just a puppet job. There may be an argument for Jacobs but lets not saintify Moore.
You don’t have to “saintify†Moore to determine that he is a better AD than Jay Jacobs. Heck, the weird twitching middle left leg of the dead cockroach in my basement would make a better AD than Jay Jacobs.
auburn will struggle under under armor in football and basketball, we will be the only team that would have won a championship wearing there brand. I dont see any one else winning it all in the near future from the ua camp, if we were to get back into a situation like 2004 i bet you we will be left out again. why, becuase nike is the espn of sports apparell,out of 14 members of the sec there are only two ua teams.Addias is ahead of ua IMO i think switching to nike or addias would pay huge dividens in auburn hoops.
There is absolutely no reason he should still have a job with AU And if we are keeping him on board just so he can save face and retire with the RSA later this year our priorities are entirely wrong…. This mentality is what will keep AU from becoming competitive in all sports…
Phil Jackson? anybody think we could lure him out of retirement?
We should support JJ because he loves Auburn and is an Auburn man! I’m tired of these unoriginal posts and opinions!!! Jay Jacobs loves Auburn!!!
Of course, as usual talk eventually turns not to their own program, but north to Tuscaloosa:
bammer cheats on a massive scale and the NCAA Looks the other way. If they were not allowed to cheat they would just be an average team. See Mike Shula years.
Shows you how pathetic of a program they really have that it takes cheating for them to win. That right there says it all. If they were as great as they claim to be they wouldn’t have to cheat. That’s all!
It does make sense. If Shula was the coach right now at ua, with all the cheating and top recruits, he’d be having about the same success as lil nicky.
They became “great†due to massive cheating. They all know it and they all are complicit. Ever heard, if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t tryingâ€! I have heard that from Bama fans my whole life (in Alabama). They know that they skirt the rules and it is OK by them. Everyone is on a level field (in their minds) and has equal opportunity to cheat. It is a part of the game and ingrained into their culture. It is who they are.
I don’t really care if the media props them up since the media always has. I do care very much what happens when we play them. The media (or the refs) did not have anything to do with the humiliating beat downs that they put on us on the field in 2011 and 2012. At least Barfield’s teams showed some level of pride against spuat. Chizik’s 2011 and 2012 teams did not.
To equate last year with any year in our history is a mistake. The last half of the season we were maybe the worst team in college football. Hell TAM could have scored 100 on us in a half and they beat bamer so why are they not the next dynasty. FL won two national chamipionships with Meyer and LSU has two with one coming from an idiot. I think this years game will go back to being more like 2009 were they are more talented but we will play hard and sound. Game will be close. The problem everyone is overlooking is that bamer has less SEC championships than national championships. If you don’t think that is crazy then you are off your rocker. They are winning the recruiting wars and therefore everyone says they have to be the best team out there. We have just as many undefeated seasons under Chizik as the midget has at bamer in one more year and we fired Chizik. Again they will be the only team in the nation who can lose a game this year and still finish ahead of some other unbeaten teams. Reality will be that if they only lose one this year it will be a little bit more convincing because I believe us, Ark and Miss will all be better. LSU and TAM will step back some but they still have Tenn and Kent on the other side which is a joke. Throw in a game with a vastly overrated Va tech team and you have a tougher schedule but still not near as tough as ours. I know you would have been bumping your chest after losing the SEC west but winning a MNC but you are just like the rest of the sidewalk alums. Most that played for them are not super proud of that one, like they are the other two. Anyway you can always just spend your time on their board if you want to follow their dynasty..
Here’s where I think bama could end up in a lot of trouble – my hunch is that their “compliance†staff is really more of a “cover up†staff. Oh sure, they report minor violations, just like all schools do. But I have a strong suspicion that when it comes to major violations, they either cover it up, or they do their best to ignore it. The Tom Albetar (T-Town Menswear) case was a really strange one. He was disassociated, which is normally what happens to boosters, but we never heard from alabammy as to whether he was ever a booster. Because, you know, if he HAD been a booster and was making money off of current players, well, that might lead to nasty things like vacating wins, vacating BCS titles, and gee, it could get complicated pretty quick.
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The irony of ironies. A bammer laughing because he/it says inevitably, we Aubs start talking about Bama. All the while, this mouthbreather is scouring AU message boards to see what we're saying.
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Please fire the ambiguously gay duo. They've had their run.