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The Library => Auburn Culinary Center => Topic started by: Tarheel on April 19, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
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I'm thinking about buying one for use this Spring and Summer...I was wondering if any of you had one and if you could recommend one. I'm not looking for anything too "gourmet"; just something functional for frying fish and potatoes and perhaps with enough BTUs to do a seafood or crawfish boil if I get adventurous. Suggestions?
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Well then you are not looking for a fryer. You are looking for a cooker. The guy down at the beach use a 2 basket 4 gallon propane fryer. It is the bomb. The name is Cajun something. I'll have to look it up
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http://cajunrocketpot.com/ (http://cajunrocketpot.com/)
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Hey now, you are a Carolinian. Aren't you supposed to be grilling trout?
I keed. Fried Catfish is the roxxers. If you want hushpuppies and catfish, you want a deep fryer. But like CCT said, from reading your post it sounds like you want a cooker.
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This is the one we use at the beach.
http://www.wulfoutdoorsports.com/shop/products/Cajun-Fryer-4-Gallon-Economy-Fryer.html (http://www.wulfoutdoorsports.com/shop/products/Cajun-Fryer-4-Gallon-Economy-Fryer.html)
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I go cheap I guess. I have a cheap single burner propane fryer, for frying fish I just bring out my Dutch oven from the kitchen to use with it. For boiling shrimp, crawfish, or frying turkey's I have large stainless steel pot with a basket. Stainless pot cost more than the cooker.
Something like this is all you need.
http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-2212-Aluminum-Outdoor/dp/B000291GC0/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1334935169&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-2212-Aluminum-Outdoor/dp/B000291GC0/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1334935169&sr=1-2)
And get this to go with it.
http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-1118-32-Quart-Stainless/dp/B0009K8SJ6/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1334935226&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-1118-32-Quart-Stainless/dp/B0009K8SJ6/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1334935226&sr=1-2)
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Thanks for the advice! I knew y'all were the right folk to ask. I've done plenty of fish-frying on teh stove-top (it's really the only way we used to eat fish growing up in the Piedmont-Triad area outside of church and community fish fries). Not that I ever get tired of grilling any kind of meat but I like some variety sometimes and I've been wanting to cook more fish lately.
Follow-up questions...breading or batter and what are your favorites?
I have a very simple breading that I use which starts from a mix I buy from The Old Mill of Guildford near where I grew up; basically a yellow corn meal that I doctor-up with Old Bay, lemon-pepper, and kosher salt...of course using an egg to assist with adherence to the fish.
Hey now, you are a Carolinian. Aren't you supposed to be grilling trout?
I keed. Fried Catfish is the roxxers. If you want hushpuppies and catfish, you want a deep fryer. But like CCT said, from reading your post it sounds like you want a cooker.
I actually do like teh Trout and fried Catfish (I have a funny comment about that) but my favorite fish for frying is Flounder. And I have fried Tilapia and Perch.
Regarding Catfish: I used to work for a Japanese company back in the 90s and in a conversation with one of the Japanese interns about American food he asked if I ate Catfish, I said of course, it's a southern thing. He said very seriously: "We do not eat cat-fish in Japan...it eat shit."
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Thanks for the advice! I knew y'all were the right folk to ask. I've done plenty of fish-frying on teh stove-top (it's really the only way we used to eat fish growing up in the Piedmont-Triad area outside of church and community fish fries). Not that I ever get tired of grilling any kind of meat but I like some variety sometimes and I've been wanting to cook more fish lately.
Follow-up questions...breading or batter and what are your favorites?
I have a very simple breading that I use which starts from a mix I buy from The Old Mill of Guildford near where I grew up; basically a yellow corn meal that I doctor-up with Old Bay, lemon-pepper, and kosher salt...of course using an egg to assist with adherence to the fish.
I actually do like teh Trout and fried Catfish (I have a funny comment about that) but my favorite fish for frying is Flounder. And I have fried Tilapia and Perch.
Regarding Catfish: I used to work for a Japanese company back in the 90s and in a conversation with one of the Japanese interns about American food he asked if I ate Catfish, I said of course, it's a southern thing. He said very seriously: "We do not eat cat-fish in Japan...it eat shit."
Maybe their catfish does, but American Farm raised eats top water feed. With the availability of catfish as an affordable fish, not to mention Grouper, Flounder, and Snapper, it amazes me that Tilapia is eaten here in the south.
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Thanks for the advice! I knew y'all were the right folk to ask. I've done plenty of fish-frying on teh stove-top (it's really the only way we used to eat fish growing up in the Piedmont-Triad area outside of church and community fish fries). Not that I ever get tired of grilling any kind of meat but I like some variety sometimes and I've been wanting to cook more fish lately.
Follow-up questions...breading or batter and what are your favorites?
I have a very simple breading that I use which starts from a mix I buy from The Old Mill of Guildford near where I grew up; basically a yellow corn meal that I doctor-up with Old Bay, lemon-pepper, and kosher salt...of course using an egg to assist with adherence to the fish.
I actually do like teh Trout and fried Catfish (I have a funny comment about that) but my favorite fish for frying is Flounder. And I have fried Tilapia and Perch.
Regarding Catfish: I used to work for a Japanese company back in the 90s and in a conversation with one of the Japanese interns about American food he asked if I ate Catfish, I said of course, it's a southern thing. He said very seriously: "We do not eat cat-fish in Japan...it eat shit."
You best tell Fujiyaki Toyota to recognize:
http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/02/10-weird-japanese-foods/ (http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/02/10-weird-japanese-foods/)
And JR is right, farm fed catfish feed at the top. My grandfather actually raised catfish for a living on his farm.
And your suggestion of breading is fine. Cornmeal and/or Old Bay is simple and good. Fried Catfish ain't something that needs to be complicated.
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You best tell Fujiyaki Toyota to recognize:
http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/02/10-weird-japanese-foods/ (http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/02/10-weird-japanese-foods/)
And JR is right, farm fed catfish feed at the top. My grandfather actually raised catfish for a living on his farm.
And your suggestion of breading is fine. Cornmeal and/or Old Bay is simple and good. Fried Catfish ain't something that needs to be complicated.
I roared at reading that (not to mention the link)...good thing I'm the only one in the west wing of my office today!
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Maybe their catfish does, but American Farm raised eats top water feed. With the availability of catfish as an affordable fish, not to mention Grouper, Flounder, and Snapper, it amazes me that Tilapia is eaten here in the south.
It's not my first go-to; GarMan and I have laughed about the reputation of that fish and I think that's the fish he's told me that he and his dad used to use it for bait when he was a kid.
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It's not my first go-to; GarMan and I have laughed about the reputation of that fish and I think that's the fish he's told me that he and his dad used to use it for bait when he was a kid.
Aside from Catfish, Flounder is my favorite.
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It's not my first go-to; GarMan and I have laughed about the reputation of that fish and I think that's the fish he's told me that he and his dad used to use it for bait when he was a kid.
I doubt that. I was farmed in the US back in the 80s and 90s, primarily for Asian restaurants. It's popularity as an American food fish started to grow in the 90s. It can only be farmed here, it can't survive in the wild as they die in water temps below 45-62 degrees, depending on the strand of Tilapia.
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Aside from Catfish, Flounder is my favorite.
Grouper and Snapper are mine, but too expensive to eat often.
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I doubt that. I was farmed in the US back in the 80s and 90s, primarily for Asian restaurants. It's popularity as an American food fish started to grow in the 90s. It can only be farmed here, it can't survive in the wild as they die in water temps below 45-62 degrees, depending on the strand of Tilapia.
Well, I'm no expert and I may have misheard his comment...but I'm not so sure...as a kid he used to fish with his Dad in the power plant discharge areas near Miami.
Anyway, I'll ask him when he gets back from his Vay-Cay in Key West.
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Well, I'm no expert and I may have misheard his comment...but I'm not so sure...as a kid he used to fish with his Dad in the power plant discharge areas near Miami.
Anyway, I'll ask him when he gets back from his Vay-Cay in Key West.
That's possible I guess. I've read where it's been introduced there, and there's a fear it will eventually find it's way in to the Everglades.
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Grouper and Snapper are mine, but too expensive to eat often.
Meant to say that I like both; you are right that they are far too expensive to eat often.
I did buy some swordfish steaks several weeks back; GarMan and I grilled them and they were phenomenal (and phenomenally expensive but worth every bite).
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Aside from Catfish, Flounder is my favorite.
Halibut is my favorite fish and I am not talking about the kind around here in restaurants and markets. I am talking about that you get fresh in Anchorage or Fairbanks. My God!
Too bad I only get up there about once a year, but when I do, I make myself sick on it I eat so much.
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The wife's family and my buddy always do several fish fries a year. We'll normally catch a bunch of bream, crappie and cats on Eufaula or cook up the ones my buddy and I catch on the St. Johns. We always make it kind of a big deal. I made an attempt to get involved in the cooking several years back and bought the tank, stand, huge metal cooking pot and basket at Lowe's. Found out after 3-4 fries that I'd much rather let them do the cooking while I stand there, drink beer and talk shit about who caught the biggest, smallest and how the sumbitch driving the boat kept putting me out in the deep water in the back of the boat while he eased up to the structure off the front. At least that's my excuse.
As far as salt water fish, I think mahi is my all around favorite. Always a solid, clean tasting fish. Snapper can be excellent but more often than not, it seems to have an overpowering "Fishy" taste. Used to think that was just because I would normally buy it and it was due to it being previously frozen, but I've had it be strong fresh off the boat. Scamp is another cut that I've never had a bad piece of meat.
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The wife's family and my buddy always do several fish fries a year. We'll normally catch a bunch of bream, crappie and cats on Eufaula or cook up the ones my buddy and I catch on the St. Johns. We always make it kind of a big deal. I made an attempt to get involved in the cooking several years back and bought the tank, stand, huge metal cooking pot and basket at Lowe's. Found out after 3-4 fries that I'd much rather let them do the cooking while I stand there, drink beer and talk shit about who caught the biggest, smallest and how the sumbitch driving the boat kept putting me out in the deep water in the back of the boat while he eased up to the structure off the front. At least that's my excuse.
As far as salt water fish, I think mahi is my all around favorite. Always a solid, clean tasting fish. Snapper can be excellent but more often than not, it seems to have an overpowering "Fishy" taste. Used to think that was just because I would normally buy it and it was due to it being previously frozen, but I've had it be strong fresh off the boat. Scamp is another cut that I've never had a bad piece of meat.
Can't say that I've even had bad snapper. And I do like scamp too. Forgot about that one.
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Can't say that I've even had bad snapper. And I do like scamp too. Forgot about that one.
It's funny about this thread because me and my coffee crew, while solving the world's problems this morning, got on the subject of good fish/bad fish. Most said snapper can be too strong but when it's right...Oh well, I guess it can happen with any fish. Last summer when I caught some snapper, I put it on the grill that night and it was incredible. The wife still says, remember that fish you grilled last summer?
The summer before, we did well catching several big King Mackeral. I did those several different ways...grilled, fish tacos and a Po-Boy style sammich. Solid.
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Halibut is my favorite fish and I am not talking about the kind around here in restaurants and markets.
your sentence is full of win.
pan-fried sturgeon is a must.
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your sentence is full of win.
pan-fried sturgeon is a must.
Look, I know some people are against doctors but don't you think pan-frying them is a little over the top?
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Look, I know some people are against doctors but don't you think pan-frying them is a little over the top?
Hey now, you're the one bragging on page 1 of the greatness of eating flipper. Sick bastard.
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Hey now, you're the one bragging on page 1 of the greatness of eating flipper. Sick bastard.
They call him Flipper, Flipper...faster than lightning.
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It's funny about this thread because me and my coffee crew, while solving the world's problems this morning, got on the subject of good fish/bad fish. Most said snapper can be too strong but when it's right...Oh well, I guess it can happen with any fish. Last summer when I caught some snapper, I put it on the grill that night and it was incredible. The wife still says, remember that fish you grilled last summer?
The summer before, we did well catching several big King Mackeral. I did those several different ways...grilled, fish tacos and a Po-Boy style sammich. Solid.
Damn, I'm jealous! Do you have a boat that you're fishing from? I'm willing to trade guide services. A guided weekend on Guntersville in the fall when the largemouths are busting through the grass to inhale frogs for some snapper and mackerel.
Credentials...
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/252520_10150290897003296_729518295_9016478_4941882_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/224322_1015716193251_1235469760_30052413_777_n.jpg)
Striper from when I lived close to Lanier in GA.
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/221942_1015538308804_1235469760_30051713_1104_n.jpg)
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nice bass.
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Look, I know some people are against doctors but don't you think pan-frying them is a little over the top?
i have some awesome recipes for lawyer too.
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Whoa....you definitely have street cred. Nice fish. No boat. As far as salt water, I take a charter a couple of times a summer that puts in at Grayton Beach. You can't call it real fishing since he goes to his spots, you let the line drop and instant limit. We catch whatever the limit is at that time and then troll for mackarel, mahi anything. Still a ton of fun.
Fresh, a lot of my family members and my buddy have boats so I pretty much mooch off them for pan fishing. I'll buy the bait and beer. I've never done much bass fishing so I definitely bow to your awesomeness with those big bastages.
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sea run rainbow trout anyone...
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n498/makandjack/trout.jpg)
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House-Autrey Seafood Breading for the fish. It is light and tasty. If you like it a little spicy, get their medium hot breading.
Grouper is excellent fried. Snapper has to be in smaller chunks else you get a little stronger fish flavor.
I have a neighbor who goes to Destin a lot to fish. They bring back excess fish all of the time. It's not as much fun, but a helluva lot cheaper.
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sea run rainbow trout anyone...
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n498/makandjack/trout.jpg)
I take it that's you in the proper collegiate gear?
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sea run rainbow trout anyone...
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n498/makandjack/trout.jpg)
That's awesome, the only trout I have ever caught have been pond stocked. I'm guessing catching them on a wild river is a little more exciting than catching them on a pond using canned corn kernels for bait.
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House-Autrey Seafood Breading for the fish. It is light and tasty. If you like it a little spicy, get their medium hot breading.
Grouper is excellent fried. Snapper has to be in smaller chunks else you get a little stronger fish flavor.
I have a neighbor who goes to Destin a lot to fish. They bring back excess fish all of the time. It's not as much fun, but a helluva lot cheaper.
I've heard some good things about House-Autrey but I have not cooked with it before. Thanks for the advice CCT.
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That's possible I guess. I've read where it's been introduced there, and there's a fear it will eventually find it's way in to the Everglades.
I actually don't know if tilapia are down there to any great extent, but I suspect that it could survive based on what I've read. When I was a yute, we would purchase various shit-fish (mullet, pilchards, etc) as well as shrimp for bait on the way down to the Keys or wherever we were going fishing. Of course, it always depended on what type of fishing we were planning; deep sea, trolling, shoreline, canals, bridge, etc... Tilapia and other garbage "farm raised" fish were frequently a part of the shit fish available. It was cheap... Very cheap.
But, I really can't believe that people are actually eating mullet and amberjack nowadays. Catfish is bad enough, but mullet is even worse. I've actually tried amberjack, now that people are eating it, and I have to admit that it isn't too bad. I wouldn't go out of my way to order it, and I'd still probably avoid it most of the time. It's just not very good.
I think it's been said... IMO, the best fish include snapper followed closely by grouper and dolphin (aka Mahi-mahi for the PC fags). There are several others that fit into this group as well. As far as the "fishy" taste that people have complained about, fish needs to be fresh and properly cleaned. In some cases, the older, larger fish can have a "fishy" taste, but they'll typically be 40+ pounds for that to occur. And, don't get me started on manatee steaks... There's NOTHING better!
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dolphin (aka Mahi-mahi for the PC fags).
If you would say what it really is, they wouldn't be able to get all PC fag on you. Its a dolphinfish, not a dolphin. Facts hurt them little PETA queers.
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If you would say what it really is, they wouldn't be able to get all PC fag on you. Its a dolphinfish, not a dolphin. Facts hurt them little PETA queers.
Most heterosexuals don't refer to it as dolphinfish. Many will call it pompano, dorado or blue dolphin, but dolphin is acceptable.
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Most heterosexuals don't refer to it as dolphinfish. Many will call it pompano, dorado or blue dolphin, but dolphin is acceptable.
Only if they've never seen a pompano.
Pompano
(http://www.bwckeywest.com/photo%2025.jpg)
Dolphin
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/MahiMahi-bull.jpg/220px-MahiMahi-bull.jpg)
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I take it that's you in the proper collegiate gear?
yes, sir.
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Only if they've never seen a pompano.
Just another common confusion... Normally, you have to clarify for some of these overlapping names.
Years ago, we were sharing stories about our past fishing trips. Up came the subject of our dolphin adventures... Some of the women in the group were horrified to hear our discussions. They were halfway expecting us to be telling stories of reaching over the side of the boat to pet some bottlenose bait thieves... One of the betas in the bunch had to clarify for the bimbos. Ruined my entertainment...
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Most heterosexuals don't refer to it as dolphinfish. Many will call it pompano, dorado or blue dolphin, but dolphin is acceptable.
Just telling you what the marine or science world calls it. Its a fact, and facts always stump PETA heads. I'm on your side.
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Just telling you what the marine or science world calls it. Its a fact, and facts always stump PETA heads. I'm on your side.
Oh, I know... My cousins from New Jersey kept calling it dolphinfish during one of our fishing trips. Hearing that whiny-assed northern-speak say "dolphinfish" made me want to stab them in the eyes.
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Oh, I know... My cousins from New Jersey kept calling it dolphinfish during one of our fishing trips. Hearing that whiny-assed northern-speak say "dolphinfish" made me want to stab them in the eyes.
The only place I've ever caught them was in Hawaii, since mahi-mahi is the word for the fish in native Hawaiian I figured that is what I would call them. In the gulf I usually just call them fish tacos.
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Many will call it pompano,
Dolphin ain't pompano.
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Most heterosexuals don't refer to it as dolphinfish. Many will call it pompano, dorado or blue dolphin, but dolphin is acceptable.
Wow, you do really question your own sexual orientation don't you?
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Pompano Joe's in Destin is pretty cool if you like eating right there on the ocean. The food? It's like a Hooters. You came for the view and cold beer.
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is anyone here a marine biologist?
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is anyone here a marine biologist?
No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
(Rim shot)
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is anyone here a marine biologist?
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Maybe you can help me straighten out my Longfellow.
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Dolphin ain't pompano.
I guess the slower kids need illustrations.
This is a pompano dolphin, frequently referred to as pompano...
(http://www.kingsailfishmounts.com/Dolphin-Pompano-mounts-c-199.jpg)
This is a common dolphin, which can be called dolphinfish, dolphin, mahi mahi and dorado. Although, these names are often used to identify the pompano variety as well...
(http://www.kingsailfishmounts.com/Dolphin-Bull-mounts-c-44.jpg)
Here's a sketch comparison...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Sgt7R_yLlXA/T15t-OksCbI/AAAAAAAAAKs/Kz2R-G3KbnY/s1600/difference+in+dorado.JPG)
This is a pompano, commonly referred to as jacks...
(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSS-6K9EYpgbA9tOmNvpa9V94ilwLKpCJZp6cNdQO7wWvbEzjpdKA)
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Wow, you do really question your own sexual orientation don't you?
I question E V E R Y T H I N G...
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This guy says kiss his ass. Quit using his name. He don't like the hooks:
(http://themixtapemonster.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/flipper.jpg)