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Title: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Jumbo on March 08, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ys-robinson_auburn_investigation_varez_ward_030812 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ys-robinson_auburn_investigation_varez_ward_030812)
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Sources: Auburn’s Varez Ward at center of federal point-shaving probe
 
By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports
21 minutes ago
 

tweet0EmailPrintSuspended Auburn University point guard Varez Ward is under investigation by federal authorities in an ongoing point-shaving probe, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

Three sources with knowledge of the case said the FBI has been investigating Ward since late February after he and guard Chris Denson were suspended by the Tigers prior to a Feb. 25 home game against Arkansas. Two sources said Denson was also questioned as part of the point-shaving investigation, but he was cleared of any wrongdoing and returned to the team after sitting out the loss to the Razorbacks. The sources said additional players have been questioned in the case about whether Ward – who has not been with the team since being suspended – attempted to enlist them in a possible scheme. The sources said at least two games are under scrutiny: a 68-50 loss to Alabama on Feb. 7 and a 56-53 loss to Arkansas on Jan. 25.

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Messages left at the FBI’s field office in Auburn and divisional headquarters in Mobile were not returned. Auburn spokesperson Kirk Sampson did not return a call or text to his cell phone seeking comment. The NCAA also declined immediate comment. An email to Ward was not returned.

Two sources told Yahoo! Sports the coaching staff became aware of possible point-shaving when a player raised concerns with an assistant coach in late February. After the coaching staff was alerted, the school contacted both the FBI and the NCAA.

The sources said that shortly after, Tigers head coach Tony Barbee suspended Ward and Denson indefinitely for a violation of team rules. Both players then sat out the Feb. 25 loss to Arkansas, with Barbee stating there would be no timetable for the players’ return, nor any comment going forward. Denson was reinstated one game later when Auburn faced Alabama on Feb. 29, with Barbee telling reporters Denson “deserved an opportunity” to play again. Ward did not make the trip to Tuscaloosa, Ala., and has not been with the team since his suspension.

“Kids have to learn a lesson,” Barbee said of Denson last week. “It’s bigger than sports. It’s about life. Sports – including what we do, basketball – is a great opportunity and a great vehicle to teach these kids life lessons. … He had to suffer the consequences for some bad decisions.”

[ Also: Sources: Syracuse basketball program repeatedly violated internal drug policy ]

Ward has averaged nine points this season as a combo guard and most recently was providing a scoring spark for Auburn off the bench. At least two games have been reviewed for irregularities:

• In the Feb. 7 loss to Alabama, Ward played 17 minutes, scoring three points (shooting 1-for-5 from the field and 1-for-2 from the free-throw line) and committing six turnovers with two assists. His first shot was a made layup, his second shot was blocked, his third was an air ball, his fourth was a long missed 3-pointer and his fifth was blocked on a layup attempt. Tailing 43-33 with 15:25 left, Ward turned the ball over twice in 21 seconds. He was then subbed out of the game. Ward entered again with 11:30 remaining and Alabama leading 50-35. Ward then turned the ball over twice in 2½ minutes as the Crimson Tide moved to a 58-38 lead. In the other 26 games Ward played this season, he averaged 2.7 turnovers in 29.1 minutes per game. According to sportsbook Vegas Insider, Alabama entered the game as a five-point favorite. The Crimson Tide easily covered with an 18-point win.

• In the Jan. 25 game against Arkansas, Ward checked in with 14:25 to play. He turned the ball over in the backcourt on his first possession 19 seconds later, falling to the floor as Arkansas converted the turnover into a layup. After remaining on the floor for more than a minute, Ward left the game limping on his right leg. Coach Tony Barbee later described the injury as a knee to Ward’s quadriceps. Ward’s departure left Auburn with only one reserve point guard for the remainder of the game against the Razorbacks – little-used Tony Neysmith, who hadn’t played in the previous seven games. According to Vegas Insider, Arkansas went into the game as 9½-point favorites. Auburn ultimately covered that spread without Ward, losing 56-53.

Ward has yet to speak publicly since his suspension from the team. One of the most frequent Twitter users on the roster, the redshirt sophomore’s account has been silent since Feb. 24 – one day before Barbee made the suspensions of Ward and Denson public. The last entry into Ward’s Twitter account was: “Can’t win for losing smh.” “Smh” stands for “shaking my head” in Twitter verbiage.

Auburn made a last-second recruiting pitch to 6-foot-3 guard Brian Greene Jr. in late February only days after suspending Ward. Green told Rivals.com that he heard from Auburn for the first time on Feb. 27. Members of the coaching staff were visiting Greene by March 1, and the player had committed to the Tigers by Sunday.

A Montgomery, Ala., native, Ward was once a highly coveted prep school player and began his college career with the University of Texas in the 2008-09 season. After having a promising NCAA tournament as a freshman, Ward started Texas’ first three games as a sophomore only to have his season cut short after he ruptured his right quadriceps tendon during warm-ups before the Longhorns’ fourth game. He chose to transfer to Auburn in August 2010, saying he wanted to be closer to his mother, who had a heart condition.

After sitting out last season because of transfer rules, Ward became a key scorer for the Tigers this season before his minutes and shooting percentage began to drop in January. He started 17 of 27 games before being suspended.

Contact Yahoo! Sports investigative reporter Charles Robinson at WindyCityScribe@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 08, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
This just concerns the player involved, right? 
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 08, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
This just concerns the player involved, right?

As long as Auburn reported and followed the correct protocol, I would think the school is in the clear. It sounds like this is the case.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: GH2001 on March 08, 2012, 03:17:46 PM
It def could explain some of the second half play this year.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Jumbo on March 08, 2012, 03:21:11 PM
Could give us the death penalty for basketball, it's Cam's fault.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 03:23:58 PM
I told ewe barners...Miltie's wire taps are gone keel yawl!!!
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 03:27:45 PM
Fuckity fuckity fuck.  Finally got the whole Cam ordeal in the rear view, and now it will be drug up in the media for another year or two at least.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 08, 2012, 03:32:25 PM
I agree with Buzz, the timing of this sux but I see this as being a lot different in the fact the team, coaches or University were not benefiting from this but instead are the ones that turned Ward in.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 08, 2012, 03:35:05 PM
Why the hell are they looking at Ward?  Obviously, Chubb is the one intentionally throwing games.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 03:35:35 PM
I agree with Buzz, the timing of this sux but I see this as being a lot different in the fact the team, coaches or University were not benefiting from this but instead are the ones that turned Ward in.

Maybe, but the NCAA will be on site once again going through the entire Athletic Dept.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: CCTAU on March 08, 2012, 03:35:58 PM
I find it a little humorous. How do you shave something you have none of in the first place?
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 03:36:40 PM
Hahaha...if it weren't for Ward, sani would have been right!!!
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 08, 2012, 03:37:19 PM
I agree with Buzz, the timing of this sux but I see this as being a lot different in the fact the team, coaches or University were not benefiting from this but instead are the ones that turned Ward in.
Yes, quite the contrary. It's almost a comical explanation for our suckage.

WTF, man... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 08, 2012, 03:39:22 PM
Maybe, but the NCAA will be on site once again going through the entire Athletic Dept.

Tis true and is the part that sux about it.

Note to Auburn: No further admission of student athlete transfers from the state of Texas.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 08, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
Yes, quite the contrary. It's almost a comical explanation for our suckage.

WTF, man... :facepalm:

Sort of cumbersome? So I guess the question is, did Auburn benefit more from him playing or being suspended. Fucking ironic shit right here.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 08, 2012, 03:42:57 PM
Why is this a big story?  I mean, I understand it making headlines for a day or two.  But if the player is the only one involved and it was handled immediately, why does this suck for Auburn? 
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 08, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
I can't see this blowing up....IF it's confined to Chu...err, Ward.  The big "if's" are whether or not it's confined to one player and whether the corches and administration followed protocol.  If they found out about it, suspended him and immediately notified all proper authorities, this will be like the Fantastic 4 that held up a dude at Dyer's gunpoint.  He committed a crime and will be popped for it.  Can't see the University being dragged through an investigation.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 08, 2012, 03:46:08 PM
Why is this a big story?  I mean, I understand it making headlines for a day or two.  But if the player is the only one involved and it was handled immediately, why does this suck for Auburn?

Because, like mentioned, Auburn is not even a year removed from having the NCAA investigators hanging around the athletic complex. Not that I believe anything will come of this to hurt Auburn, but I just hate that the guys are in the Auburn city limits...period.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
Why is this a big story?  I mean, I understand it making headlines for a day or two.  But if the player is the only one involved and it was handled immediately, why does this suck for Auburn?
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Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 03:51:16 PM
Why the hell are they looking at Ward?  Obviously, Chubb is the one intentionally throwing games.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/03/the_numbers_make_clear_auburn.html (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/03/the_numbers_make_clear_auburn.html)
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 08, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/03/the_numbers_make_clear_auburn.html (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/03/the_numbers_make_clear_auburn.html)

Woodberry goes after AU again.  Damn him.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 08, 2012, 04:54:03 PM
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Charles Robinson: "There's not been any indication whatsoever, that Auburn University was in the wrong."
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 08, 2012, 04:57:34 PM
You know, I just noticed this:

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Two sources told Yahoo! Sports the coaching staff became aware of possible point-shaving when a player raised concerns with an assistant coach in late February. After the coaching staff was alerted, the school contacted both the FBI and the NCAA.

And realized there is no way we get in any trouble for this. Auburn was the victims here. And the whistle-blowers.

I'm sure, it'll be painted otherwise, especially by Finebaum, etc., but that's the truth of the situation.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 08, 2012, 05:03:12 PM
You know, I just noticed this:

And realized there is no way we get in any trouble for this. Auburn was the victims here. And the whistle-blowers.

I'm sure, it'll be painted otherwise, especially by Finebaum, etc., but that's the truth of the situation.

Yeah, thats what I was saying in an earlier post. However, folks like Fbaum will make a few bucks from
hen-pecking the negative.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 08, 2012, 05:16:50 PM
And realized there is no way we get in any trouble for this. Auburn was the victims here. And the whistle-blowers.

I'm sure, it'll be painted otherwise, especially by Finebaum, etc., but that's the truth of the situation.

How dare Auburn contact the authorities.  Don't they know that you're supposed to wait a few days, then tell your supervisors that you may have heard about something that might be improper?
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 08, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Wow.

Bar in Tuscaloosa.

https://twitter.com/#!/UAGallettes/status/177876147768532992
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Come celebrate the beginning of the end for Auburn Sports with NO COVER TILL 11!! This is our last night open until after SB! #rmft
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 08, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
So an oddsmaker paid an Auburn player to make Auburn lose...wonder who could be responsible for that...
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Pell City Tiger on March 08, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
So an oddsmaker paid an Auburn player to make Auburn lose...wonder who could be responsible for that...
Danny Sheridan's revenge!
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: JR4AU on March 08, 2012, 06:32:15 PM
Here's the thing, and all you swinging dicks KNOW this...no matter what, there are some that will simply scream loud and often that Auburn is dirty, no matter what.  And when they do, the host of the show they call will just snicker.  Auburn gets a black eye, even when Auburn did every thing right.   May not amount to much, but Auburn still gets hurt.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 08, 2012, 07:28:58 PM
Here's the thing, and all you swinging dicks KNOW this...no matter what, there are some that will simply scream loud and often that Auburn is dirty, no matter what.  And when they do, the host of the show they call will just snicker.  Auburn gets a black eye, even when Auburn did every thing right.   May not amount to much, but Auburn still gets hurt.

^^^This^^^

However, it is sneaky suspicious that the first game he worked with this "oddsmaker" was the bammer game.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: JR4AU on March 08, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
^^^This^^^

However, it is sneaky suspicious that the first game he worked with this "oddsmaker" was the bammer game.

It would be sweet if some bammer went down hard for paying for the point shaving.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Kaos on March 09, 2012, 02:02:58 AM
Maybe, but the NCAA will be on site once again going through the entire Athletic Dept.

Doubt it. 
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Kaos on March 09, 2012, 02:14:35 AM
Mr. Fair and Balanced Woodbery has six stories up on Ward currently. 

What a fucking assclown. 
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Saniflush on March 09, 2012, 06:30:40 AM
Mr. Fair and Balanced Woodbery has six stories up on Ward currently. 

What a fucking assclown.

I wish I knew where he parks his truck.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Godfather on March 09, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
What I want to know is who in the fuck bets on Auburn Basketball?
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 09, 2012, 09:38:06 AM
What I want to know is who in the fuck bets on Auburn Basketball?
To beat the spread, no less.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Saniflush on March 09, 2012, 09:38:35 AM
What I want to know is who in the fuck bets on Auburn Basketball?

Fans of our opponents.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 09, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
I wish I knew where he parks his truck.

Green flies in the bed.

Checked out some PF yesterday and of course, that was the one and only topic.  He had former US Attorney, Doug Jones on taking calls.  Here's the Fineschlong M.O.  The fact that he had someone on who basically forced him to speak with some actual reason and logic on occasion, didn't stop him from doing what he does best. 

Jones would talk about, and PF would have to acknowledge, that AU was completely proactive and it appears they've handled this the right way from the start.  Doesn't look to be any problems for AU other than losing a player.....

Then he goes to break saying, "We'll come back and take your calls on this scandal in the Auburn Athletic Department".   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Godfather on March 09, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
Then he goes to break saying, "We'll come back and take your calls on this scandal in the Auburn Athletic Department".   :facepalm:
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Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: El Guapo on March 09, 2012, 10:20:09 AM
I don't get how you can have someone on one of your teams that doesn't follow the Creed? I thought all were Auburn men?

And doesn't the Family support it's own?
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 09, 2012, 10:21:08 AM
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Damn, I never knew how much Fbaum looked like Carl from Sling Blade until now.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 09, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
I don't get how you can have someone on one of your teams that doesn't follow the Creed? I thought all were Auburn men?

And doesn't the Family support it's own?

Follow the Creed?  He has to be able to read before he knows what's in the Creed.  Having said that...go choke on a black cock.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: CCTAU on March 09, 2012, 10:26:48 AM
Mr. Fair and Balanced Woodbery has six stories up on Ward currently. 

What a fucking assclown.

I guess he's taking Sunday off.
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: djsimp on March 09, 2012, 10:27:13 AM
I don't get how you can have someone on one of your teams that doesn't follow the Creed? I thought all were Auburn men?

And doesn't the Family support it's own?

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Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: GH2001 on March 09, 2012, 10:55:27 AM
On ESPN.com:

"FBI eyes Auburn for Point Shaving"

On ESPN this morning:

"Auburn Scandal Brewing"

Can you say :facepalm:
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 09, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
Just a matter of time before the New York Times article comes out...
Title: Re: Point Shaving at Auburn????
Post by: AUChizad on March 09, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
On ESPN.com:

"FBI eyes Auburn for Point Shaving"

On ESPN this morning:

"Auburn Scandal Brewing"

Can you say :facepalm:
Even more  :facepalm: inducing are the comments section of the ESPN.com article (http://espn.go.com/ncb/conversations/_/id/7662296/fbi-investigating-auburn-tigers-varez-ward-point-shaving-according-report).

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Another Auburn player in a scandel?....NO!!!

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From the school that produced Charles Barkley and Scam Newton. Who would have thought?

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Auburn and cheating=what are the odds?? The Hammer is going to come down and come down hard on that school in the next 5 years. I would bet my house they don't have that Natl Title to their name in 10 years. just cheating their $@%!$ off

Etc., etc.