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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: GarMan on May 22, 2008, 12:20:40 AM
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Good Times!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64734
31,000 scientists reject 'global warming' agenda
'Mr. Gore's movie has claims no informed expert endorses'
Posted: May 19, 2008
8:51 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting "global warming," the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth's climate.
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How dare you bring something like science into an argument like this!
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I agree that Global warming is not accurate at all, but if you don't think pollution will have a gross negative effect on our planet...well...then you are retarded.
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Good Times!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64734
How DARE you post an article about an "alleged" Scientific Petition that has not been Peer Reviewed! And the statistics have been cherry-picked and are "of dubious relevence". (sarcasm)
Read more of the Glowbull Worming cultist replies here if you like (as always all emphasis is my own), this is from RealClimate.org:
Oregon Institute of Science and Malarkey
10 Oct 2007
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A large number of US scientists (to our direct knowledge: engineers, biologists, computer scientists and geologists) received a package in the mail this week. The package consists of a colour preprint of a 'new' article by Robinson, Robinson and Soon and an exhortation to sign a petition demanding that the US not sign the Kyoto Protocol. If you get a feeling of deja vu, it is because this comes from our old friends, the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and is an attempt to re-invigorate the highly criticised 1999 "Oregon Petition".
The article itself is just an update of the original article, minus an author (Baliunas), with a switch of Robinson children (Zachary's out, Noah is in), but with a large number of similar errors and language. As in [the] previous case, this paper too, is not peer reviewed.
Since this is a rehash of the previous paper plus a few more cherry-picked statistics of dubious relevance, instead of tediously going through the whole thing ourselves, we are going to try something new - an open source debunking.
As we've mentioned previously, we've set up a Wiki to provide a one stop shop for articles debunking some of the worst climate contrarian pseudo-science. So, we've therefore set up a page for the new OISM paper, and what we'd like to do here is to start collecting material on this paper.
So, in the comments, please catalog any:
1. links to articles dealing with debunkings of the previous incarnations of this paper
2. obvious errors
3. clear cherry-picking of data
4. interesting edits between versions
and we'll collate all the pertinent stuff on the RC-Wiki page. To make things easier, please label all comments by the section or figure numbers.
Just to get you started, all versions of the paper make a mistake in the dating of Keigwin's Sargasso Sea record by 50 years (Figure 2 in early versions, Figure 1 now) since they do not notice that the published dates are in 'years BP' (Before Present) which is conventionally dated from 1950, not 2000. And that's even without getting into the question of why this is the only paleo-record they highlight, or on what logical basis they put the '2006′ value on.
In another example, the authors appear to think that human breathing out of CO2 is contributing to accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. (Actually since that carbon comes directly and indirectly from recent plants taking it out of the air, our breathing is carbon neutral). Additionally, they take the ratio of temperature change to CO2 change in the ice core record and assume that is the climate sensitivity of climate to CO2 as opposed to the other way around.
There is much, much more. Have at it!
Here's a link to the Wiki:
http://www.realclimate.org/wiki/index.php?title=RC_Wiki
Here's a full link to the above article:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/10/oregon-institute-of-science-and-malarkey/#more-480
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I agree that Global warming is not accurate at all, but if you don't think pollution will have a gross negative effect on our planet...well...then you are retarded.
I don't think that anybody's advocating dumping car batteries, raw sewage or toxic waste into our oceans and waterways. So, there are reasonable limits to the discussion. To the extent it has been reported and sensationalized, global warming is a complete joke.