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Title: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 06, 2011, 01:18:22 PM
I told you so Chad...

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LSU rises to No. 2 in Top 25; Auburn, UGa out

NEW YORK -- Winning the biggest game of college football's opening weekend boosted LSU to No. 2 in The Associated Press Top 25.

No. 1 Oklahoma held on to the top spot in the first regular-season rankings, while the Tigers used their 40-27 victory against Oregon to jump rival Alabama, which slipped to No. 3.

Boise State moved up a notch to No. 4 after its impressive 35-21 win against Georgia. Florida State moved up to No. 5.

Oregon dropped nine spots to No. 13 and defending national champion Auburn, which started the season at No. 23, fell out of the Top 25 after needing a late rally to beat Utah State at home. Notre Dame also dropped out.

Moving into the rankings were No. 20 Baylor, No. 22 South Florida, No. 23 Penn State and No. 24 Texas.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6936273/lsu-tigers-climb-no-2-associated-press-top-25-auburn-tigers-georgia-bulldogs-drop-out




Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 06, 2011, 01:20:37 PM
I can't say I am surprised.  For some teams, the win streak would be enough to keep them hanging around in the top 15 though.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 06, 2011, 01:29:11 PM
Did Notre Dame move up?
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 06, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
Did Notre Dame move up?
They are still in great shape to make a BCS Bowl.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: ssgaufan on September 06, 2011, 01:30:33 PM
Did Notre Dame move up?

No, but USF moved up after beating their sorry asses.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 06, 2011, 01:31:45 PM
This is patently absurd.

1   Oklahoma (32)   1-0   1448
2   LSU (17)   1-0   1415
3   Alabama (9)   1-0   1409
4   Boise State (2)   1-0   1310
5   Florida State   1-0   1196
6   Stanford   1-0   1154
7   Texas A&M   1-0   1033
8   Wisconsin   1-0   1031
9   Oklahoma State   1-0   981
10   Nebraska   1-0   947
11   Virginia Tech   1-0   906
12   South Carolina   1-0   843
13   Oregon   0-1   828
14   Arkansas   1-0   752
15   Ohio State   1-0   606
16   Mississippi State   1-0   594
17   Michigan State   1-0   530
18   Florida   1-0   382
19   West Virginia   1-0   357
20   Baylor   1-0   284
21   Missouri   1-0   242
22   South Florida   1-0   221
23   Penn State   1-0   147
24   Texas   1-0   135
25   TCU   0-1   130

What a fucking joke.

So apparently, being the defending National Champion with the longest winning streak in the FBS is not enough to get you ranked. Being a Mountain West team and getting down to Baylor, coming back, and then still losing to Baylor, gets you in the polls.

You know for a 100% fact, that if we were Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, etc., first of all we would have entered the season in the Top 10, and secondly, we wouldn't have dropped a spot. Probably would have moved up considering the teams that lost ahead of us. You'd hear about the amazing comeback and how this team never gives up. I know because I've seen it in the past.

The AP was chomping at the bit to get us out of the polls. They couldn't just wait an extra week to actually see what we're made of.

It is fucking ludicrous that any team that is 0-1 be ranked at all while there are so many teams still undefeated. Even Oregon. You had your chance and you blew it. Get in line behind everyone else until you get a quality win.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Godfather on September 06, 2011, 01:35:07 PM
This is patently absurd.

What a fucking joke.

So apparently, being the defending National Champion with the longest winning streak in the FBS is not enough to get you ranked. Being a Mountain West team and getting down to Baylor, coming back, and then still losing to Baylor, gets you in the polls.

You know for a 100% fact, that if we were Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, etc., first of all we would have entered the season in the Top 10, and secondly, we wouldn't have dropped a spot. Probably would have moved up considering the teams that lost ahead of us.

The AP was chomping at the bit to get us out of the polls. They couldn't just wait an extra week to actually see what we're made of.

It is fucking ludicrous that any team that is 0-1 be ranked at all while there are so many teams still undefeated. Even Oregon. You had your chance and you blew it. Get in line behind everyone else until you get a quality win.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts...

You forgot one thing though....fuck teh haterz  :fu:
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: The Six on September 06, 2011, 01:36:13 PM
Even Oregon. You had your chance and you blew it. Get in line behind everyone else until you get a quality win.

And they will get that chance in what, 10 weeks? PAC 12 sucks. And so does Notre Dame.

I agree with your thoughts on the pollsters' motivations.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: JR4AU on September 06, 2011, 01:46:41 PM
I really didn't fully expect they'd drop us with a W.  Not often that happens.  But, #16 comes to town Saturday, and we can be right back in it if we can find a way to pull it out. 

My heart says they learned a lot of lessons, got the feel for "game speed", will correct alignment problems on Defense, and play more aggressively, and we can compete.

My mind looks at Roof's history, and says the ONLY way we win this one is if our offense can keep up in a shoot out.

If we can score 45, we have a chance.  Damn, that sounds fucked up!  Trotter goes all tard on us, and we're fuxed.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 06, 2011, 02:17:34 PM
I really didn't fully expect they'd drop us with a W.  Not often that happens.  But, #16 comes to town Saturday, and we can be right back in it if we can find a way to pull it out. 

My heart says they learned a lot of lessons, got the feel for "game speed", will correct alignment problems on Defense, and play more aggressively, and we can compete.

My mind looks at Roof's history, and says the ONLY way we win this one is if our offense can keep up in a shoot out.

If we can score 45, we have a chance.  Damn, that sounds fucked up!  Trotter goes all tard on us, and we're fuxed.
2 things must happen for us to win Saturday...

1.  We must score with every given opportunity... Like you said without Trotter going full retard.

and 2. The defense will have to stop MSU's offense twice...I don't think that will happen.

The National Media hates us for whatever reason...so fuck them.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Saniflush on September 06, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
Trotter goes all tard on us, and we're fuxed.

You never go full tard.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: GH2001 on September 06, 2011, 02:24:42 PM
Quote from: AWK link=topic=1 :rolleyes:5369.msg217188#msg217188 date=1315333054
2 things must happen for us to win Saturday...

1.  We must score with every given opportunity... Like you said without Trotter going full retard.

and 2. The defense will have to stop MSU's offense twice...I don't think that will happen.

Jay G Cocksucker hates us for whatever reason...so fuck them.
Now you're getting it.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 02:31:26 PM
This is patently absurd.

1   Oklahoma (32)   1-0   1448
2   LSU (17)   1-0   1415
3   Alabama (9)   1-0   1409
4   Boise State (2)   1-0   1310
5   Florida State   1-0   1196
6   Stanford   1-0   1154
7   Texas A&M   1-0   1033
8   Wisconsin   1-0   1031
9   Oklahoma State   1-0   981
10   Nebraska   1-0   947
11   Virginia Tech   1-0   906
12   South Carolina   1-0   843
13   Oregon   0-1   828
14   Arkansas   1-0   752
15   Ohio State   1-0   606
16   Mississippi State   1-0   594
17   Michigan State   1-0   530
18   Florida   1-0   382
19   West Virginia   1-0   357
20   Baylor   1-0   284
21   Missouri   1-0   242
22   South Florida   1-0   221
23   Penn State   1-0   147
24   Texas   1-0   135
25   TCU   0-1   130

What a fucking joke.

So apparently, being the defending National Champion with the longest winning streak in the FBS is not enough to get you ranked. Being a Mountain West team and getting down to Baylor, coming back, and then still losing to Baylor, gets you in the polls.

You know for a 100% fact, that if we were Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, etc., first of all we would have entered the season in the Top 10, and secondly, we wouldn't have dropped a spot. Probably would have moved up considering the teams that lost ahead of us. You'd hear about the amazing comeback and how this team never gives up. I know because I've seen it in the past.

The AP was chomping at the bit to get us out of the polls. They couldn't just wait an extra week to actually see what we're made of.

It is fucking ludicrous that any team that is 0-1 be ranked at all while there are so many teams still undefeated. Even Oregon. You had your chance and you blew it. Get in line behind everyone else until you get a quality win.
Oregon lost to a top 5 team while they were a top 5 team. I wouldn't expect them to totally drop out of the top 25.

TCU was ranked 14th. They dropped more than Oregon did, and rightfully so; they lost to an unranked team.

I don't understand why people look at it as "defending" champions. A team can't take it away from you. It's not normal at all to win back-to-back NCs. You're not really defending anything. You won it. And in that sense, the 2011 AU team has just about dick in common with the 2010 team. There are only a handful of guys leftover from that team. You certainly aren't expecting the same results as 2010 after watching the Utah St game, so why should the pollsters? If we're going to play the "if" game, you would be bitching and moaning about the media sucking the Crimson cock if Alabama was ranked 23rd and put in the same type of performance as AU against Utah St and wasn't dropped out of the polls.

Auburn could have totally eliminated the controversy by kicking the living piss out of Utah St. It's what pretty much everybody here thought was going to happen prior to kickoff. If I would have came on here and said you guys are going to have to pull one out of your asses to beat them, you would have laughed me off of this board. If the pollsters had it out for AU, then the team didn't give them much to think about. You would be pissed if they gave any other team the benefit of the doubt because of last season, so I don't see why you expect them to do it for AU.

In 08, Alabama was ranked 24th in the pre-season poll. They were ranked #1 going into the SECCG. All is not lost for AU. If you guys can come out and kick the living fuck out of some ranked teams in a good fashion, and show that all season, I think AU will find themselves in a respectable place in the polls.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 06, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
I agree for the most part but there has to be at least a little amount of respect factored in here.  I don't argue for an instant that this team had to pull one out of it's entire ass to beat a middle of the packWAC'ster.  But, isn't that the same M.O. for just about the whole 2010 season?  And isn't this program currently on the longest win streak in D1 ball?  It may end this week and if they play even half as bad as they did Saturday, it will.  But, until then..all we do is win...and drop in the polls. Just a little respect would be nice.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 06, 2011, 03:04:19 PM
Oregon lost to a top 5 team while they were a top 5 team. I wouldn't expect them to totally drop out of the top 25.
Meanwhile plenty of teams are undefeated. They are winless. Yes they played a great opponent. I don't care. A 100% win record vs. a 100% loss record should win out every time. They fall out of my poll and are replaced with whichever team had most quality win that was previously unranked. I guess that would be Baylor.

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TCU was ranked 14th. They dropped more than Oregon did, and rightfully so; they lost to an unranked team.
Yeah, and that unranked team is still unranked, while TCU is still ranked. Do you really fail to see the absurdity in that? Again, one team has won every game they've played, and the other has lost every game. AND THAT ONE GAME SAMPLE IS A HEAD-TO-HEAD BATTLE WITH EACHOTHER. On no planet should TCU be ranked and not Baylor. And not any team that actually won this weekend.

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I don't understand why people look at it as "defending" champions. A team can't take it away from you. It's not normal at all to win back-to-back NCs. You're not really defending anything. You won it. And in that sense, the 2011 AU team has just about dick in common with the 2010 team. There are only a handful of guys leftover from that team. You certainly aren't expecting the same results as 2010 after watching the Utah St game, so why should the pollsters? If we're going to play the "if" game, you would be bitching and moaning about the media sucking the Crimson cock if Alabama was ranked 23rd and put in the same type of performance as AU against Utah St and wasn't dropped out of the polls.
Last season shouldn't amount to shit. But it does. Hence why Oregon and TCU are still ranked. Hence why Alabama is #3 in the nation for beating up on Kent State while giving up 5 turnovers. And you're wrong on what I would be bitching and moaning about. And you're wrong that that would ever happen. I've seen time and time again an overrated Notre Dame or Michigan team struggle in their opener, and I've heard the talking heads gush over what perseverance they had to come back and secure the win, and that team ends up holding strong to their top 5 ranking. Granted it's generally bullshit, but it only applies to those favorite son teams. Always has, always will. Like Snaggle said, I'm not saying we should just be able to perch up at the top of the rankings after a win like that. But shit, we do have the longest winning streak in FBS. That should get us to crack the Top 25.

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Auburn could have totally eliminated the controversy by kicking the living piss out of Utah St. It's what pretty much everybody here thought was going to happen prior to kickoff. If I would have came on here and said you guys are going to have to pull one out of your asses to beat them, you would have laughed me off of this board. If the pollsters had it out for AU, then the team didn't give them much to think about. You would be pissed if they gave any other team the benefit of the doubt because of last season, so I don't see why you expect them to do it for AU.
See above. You're wrong. Just about every team ranked above us is given the benefit of the doubt because of last season. Just not the National Champions.

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In 08, Alabama was ranked 24th in the pre-season poll. They were ranked #1 going into the SECCG. All is not lost for AU. If you guys can come out and kick the living fuck out of some ranked teams in a good fashion, and show that all season, I think AU will find themselves in a respectable place in the polls.
The thing is, I'm not sitting here arguing that we're world-beaters. I feel that it is more likely than not that MSU beats our asses next week. THEN we should be unranked. Until we lose on the field, it makes zero sense to keep teams who lost their only game ahead of a team that has won 16 in a row.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: BhamLawyer on September 06, 2011, 03:07:07 PM
16 straight wins get us this kind of respect?  Wow.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: chinook on September 06, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
16 straight wins get us this kind of respect?  Wow.

another fucking lawyer on teh X.

awesome.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on September 06, 2011, 03:20:09 PM
It's the second week of the season.  Who cares?
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 06, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
another fucking lawyer on teh X.

awesome.

Ain't it great?
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: JR4AU on September 06, 2011, 03:25:56 PM
another fucking lawyer on teh X.

awesome.

We rulez!
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Godfather on September 06, 2011, 03:27:44 PM
It's the second week of the season.  Who cares?

You see, it's the principal. There's principalities in the whole thing.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 06, 2011, 03:29:54 PM
We rulez!
We are teh Number #1!@#@!#

Lawyerz rule!@#@!
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
Yeah, and that unranked team is still unranked, while TCU is still ranked. Do you really fail to see the absurdity in that? Again, one team has won every game they've played, and the other has lost every game. AND THAT ONE GAME SAMPLE IS A HEAD-TO-HEAD BATTLE WITH EACHOTHER. On no planet should TCU be ranked and not Baylor. And not any team that actually won this weekend.
Baylor is now ranked ahead of TCU. What are you talking about?

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Last season shouldn't amount to shit. But it does. Hence why Oregon and TCU are still ranked. Hence why Alabama is #3 in the nation for beating up on Kent State while giving up 5 turnovers. And you're wrong on what I would be bitching and moaning about. And you're wrong that that would ever happen. I've seen time and time again an overrated Notre Dame or Michigan team struggle in their opener, and I've heard the talking heads gush over what perseverance they had to come back and secure the win, and that team ends up holding strong to their top 5 ranking. Granted it's generally bullshit, but it only applies to those favorite son teams. Always has, always will. Like Snaggle said, I'm not saying we should just be able to perch up at the top of the rankings after a win like that. But shit, we do have the longest winning streak in FBS. That should get us to crack the Top 25.
Alabama did it in leisurely fashion and won by like 5 TDs while holding QB tryouts. Oh, and holding Kent St to under 100 yards on the day as well. We beat the dogshit out of our cupcake. Alabama still dropped one spot in the rankings, and rightfully so; LSU kicked the snot out of Oregon, and honestly, deserves to be #1 IMO.

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The thing is, I'm not sitting here arguing that we're world-beaters. I feel that it is more likely than not that MSU beats our asses next week. THEN we should be unranked. Until we lose on the field, it makes zero sense to keep teams who lost their only game ahead of a team that has won 16 in a row.
AU won 16 in a row with a totally different team. Why give this AU team the benefit of the doubt of last year's performance when damn near nobody from that team is still there? And that showed greatly on Saturday. The whole "respect from last year" argument holds no water. Are you telling me you would rather AU be respected for something in the past rather than something happening now? Where have I heard bitching about that sort of thing before......?

Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Saniflush on September 06, 2011, 03:33:52 PM
Are you telling me you would rather AU be respected for something in the past rather than something happening now? Where have I heard bitching about that sort of thing before......?


I think what he's saying is that he would like some consistency.  That's it.  Nothing more. Nothing less.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 03:35:57 PM

I think what he's saying is that he would like some consistency.  That's it.  Nothing more. Nothing less.
It has always been hit and miss. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Saniflush on September 06, 2011, 03:37:13 PM
It has always been hit and miss. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I don't either, but he can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one gets filled up first.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 06, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
I stand corrected on Baylor in the AP poll. However, TCU is still unranked in the USA Today Coaches Poll, while Baylor is not. We at least held on to #22 in that poll.

Everything else you said is one great big fail.

You're basically bitching up a storm at the notion that Auburn should be given slightly more benefit of the doubt for winning it all last season, and still continuing that winning streak this year, and yet fail to see that virtually every team ranked ahead of us, especially Alabama, is ranked where they are for exactly that.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 06, 2011, 03:38:39 PM

I think what he's saying is that he would like some consistency.  That's it.  Nothing more. Nothing less.
:thumsup:
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 06, 2011, 03:40:48 PM
:thumsup:
Consistency and polls can not be mentioned in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 04:18:21 PM
I stand corrected on Baylor in the AP poll. However, TCU is still unranked in the USA Today Coaches Poll, while Baylor is not. We at least held on to #22 in that poll.

Everything else you said is one great big fail.

You're basically bitching up a storm at the notion that Auburn should be given slightly more benefit of the doubt for winning it all last season, and still continuing that winning streak this year, and yet fail to see that virtually every team ranked ahead of us, especially Alabama, is ranked where they are for exactly that.
Let me put it to you this way: If Alabama were ranked 23rd and put in that type of performance against an inferior opponent, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me if they dropped out of the polls. I would highly support that. Considering the amount of players that AU lost from last season to this season, you can't really argue with the pollsters' projection in the pre-season rankings. Because that's all the pre-season rankings are; projections. Your point would be better taken if we were debating the pre-season ranking. You could argue all day long because it would still need to be seen what this AU squad can do. And to some degree, the jury is still out on that. The pre-season rankings are a mix of who a team had, who left, incoming personnel, etc etc.

In AU's case, you can't just take last year's results, minus those who made that team (almost literally), then project this year's team as a top 10. There isn't anything to go on. AU lost a fuckton of guys, more than your average team in the top 25 probably lost. In Alabama's case, the defense stayed mainly intact. The offense has never been Alabama's bread and butter. But, for the most part, the OL stayed intact, Ingram is gone (which most of you argued last year that he wasn't even Alabama's best back), Julio is gone (that does hurt), and McElroy is gone (ehhhhhhhh). I think Julio is probably the biggest loss out of that group. I'm not so sure that any team replacing a QB should be ranked #2 pre-season, but then again, Alabama has never really relied on exceptional QB play either. That's basing things off of a pre-season standpoint.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 06, 2011, 04:22:51 PM
Let me put it to you this way: If Alabama were ranked 23rd and put in that type of performance against an inferior opponent, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me if they dropped out of the polls. I would highly support that. Considering the amount of players that AU lost from last season to this season, you can't really argue with the pollsters' projection in the pre-season rankings. Because that's all the pre-season rankings are; projections. Your point would be better taken if we were debating the pre-season ranking. You could argue all day long because it would still need to be seen what this AU squad can do. And to some degree, the jury is still out on that. The pre-season rankings are a mix of who a team had, who left, incoming personnel, etc etc.

In AU's case, you can't just take last year's results, minus those who made that team (almost literally), then project this year's team as a top 10. There isn't anything to go on. AU lost a fuckton of guys, more than your average team in the top 25 probably lost. In Alabama's case, the defense stayed mainly intact. The offense has never been Alabama's bread and butter. But, for the most part, the OL stayed intact, Ingram is gone (which most of you argued last year that he wasn't even Alabama's best back), Julio is gone (that does hurt), and McElroy is gone (ehhhhhhhh). I think Julio is probably the biggest loss out of that group. I'm not so sure that any team replacing a QB should be ranked #2 pre-season, but then again, Alabama has never really relied on exceptional QB play either. That's basing things off of a pre-season standpoint.


That is the only part he is talking about. You see, if it happened to Alabama, it probably wouldn't have happened.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 06, 2011, 04:28:16 PM
I know it sounds like whining to those outside the AU family, but I do think that respect needs to be factored in to a degree.  I'm well aware how many guys we lost and no, I don't think this is a very good team overall right now.  But, if you haven't lost in 16 straight games and you have the same coaching staff that's guided you to those 16 straight, if I'm a pollster, I've got to say...until somebody beats them....

I also think that will most likely happen this weekend.  But until it happens....
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 04:28:40 PM
That is the only part he is talking about. You see, if it happened to Alabama, it probably wouldn't have happened.
So, with it known that they dropped Alabama one spot after beating the piss out of a team, we're going with they wouldn't drop Alabama out of the top 25 from the 23rd spot if that same shitty team was within 3 minutes of beating them? Without pulling out my crystal ball, I wouldn't know. Neither do you. We could debate it all day, but nobody knows.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 06, 2011, 04:30:40 PM
So, with it known that they dropped Alabama one spot after beating the piss out of a team, we're going with they wouldn't drop Alabama out of the top 25 from the 23rd spot if that same shitty team was within 3 minutes of beating them? Without pulling out my crystal ball, I wouldn't know. Neither do you. We could debate it all day, but nobody knows.
Samoans know.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 06, 2011, 04:32:47 PM
So, with it known that they dropped Alabama one spot after beating the piss out of a team, we're going with they wouldn't drop Alabama out of the top 25 from the 23rd spot if that same shitty team was within 3 minutes of beating them? Without pulling out my crystal ball, I wouldn't know. Neither do you. We could debate it all day, but nobody knows.

I don't think that's apples to apples.  I don't think for a second that Bama was "punished" by dropping.  I think it's far more likely LSU impressed the hell out of people with a win on the big stage over a top 5 team. 

For the record, I don't see Lee taking this team anywhere near where some are predicting.  Rough ass schedule and it's a shit ton easier to run on Oregon than it will be MSU, Bama, WVU etc.  He better step up that game.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 04:40:37 PM
I don't think that's apples to apples.  I don't think for a second that Bama was "punished" by dropping.  I think it's far more likely LSU impressed the hell out of people with a win on the big stage over a top 5 team. 
Exactly. Further proving the point. Why shouldn't AU drop to make room for a Baylor team that beat #14 TCU? Or South Florida that beat #16 Notre Dame (why the fuck they were ranked 16th, I have no idea). Or any other team that was knocking on the door of the top 25 that beat the piss out of their opponent? AU got caught towards the bottom of the top 25 with a few teams close impressing, and AU playing like shit. If you guys beat MSU next week, you will be right back in. If AU loses, then moot point.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: GH2001 on September 06, 2011, 04:43:32 PM
Samoans know.

Don't fuck with teh Tongans. This is no laughing matter to Prowler.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 06, 2011, 04:49:32 PM
So, with it known that they dropped Alabama one spot after beating the piss out of a team, we're going with they wouldn't drop Alabama out of the top 25 from the 23rd spot if that same shitty team was within 3 minutes of beating them? Without pulling out my crystal ball, I wouldn't know. Neither do you. We could debate it all day, but nobody knows.
First of all, if they had just come off of a NC, they unequivocally would not be hanging into the top 25 by a thumbnail anyway. Period. Take last year, for example. To most experts, there was pretty much no way they didn't repeat. Then they lose 3 games and still have enough love to end the season in the Top 10. They have basically the same problem we do, but worse, IMO. Losing Cam & Fairley < losing McElroy, Julio, Ingram, & Dareus. Not saying our remaining players > your remaining players. I'm just saying, you're given the benefit of the doubt and we're not. Plain & simple.

Now. Let's say they did start the season ranked #23, despite coming off of a National Championship and holding the longest current winning streak in D1 football. A shaky win like your 20-6 W over Tulane in '08 or your 30-24 W over Houstin in '07, would not have dropped you completely out of the polls leaving two teams with a loss ahead of you. It simply would not happen. I've seen the media make excuses for Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, etc. in the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 04:53:25 PM
First of all, if they had just come off of a NC, they unequivocally would not be hanging into the top 25 by a thumbnail anyway. Period. Take last year, for example. To most experts, there was pretty much no way they didn't repeat. Then they lose 3 games and still have enough love to end the season in the Top 10. They have basically the same problem we do, but worse, IMO. Losing Cam & Fairley < losing McElroy, Julio, Ingram, & Dareus. Not saying our remaining players > your remaining players. I'm just saying, you're given the benefit of the doubt and we're not. Plain & simple.
Holy. Shit. We will pick this conversation back up when you figure out how to read a roster.

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Now. Let's say they did start the season ranked #23, despite coming off of a National Championship and holding the longest current winning streak in D1 football. A shaky win like your 20-6 W over Tulane in '08 or your 30-24 W over Houstin in '07, would not have dropped you completely out of the polls leaving two teams with a loss ahead of you. It simply would not happen. I've seen the media make excuses for Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, etc. in the past 10 years.
Wow.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 06, 2011, 05:04:02 PM
Holy. Shit. We will pick this conversation back up when you figure out how to read a roster.
Wow.
Derp.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: The Prowler on September 06, 2011, 05:39:04 PM
Oregon lost to a top 5 team while they were a top 5 team. I wouldn't expect them to totally drop out of the top 25.

TCU was ranked 14th. They dropped more than Oregon did, and rightfully so; they lost to an unranked team.

I don't understand why people look at it as "defending" champions. A team can't take it away from you. It's not normal at all to win back-to-back NCs. You're not really defending anything. You won it. And in that sense, the 2011 AU team has just about dick in common with the 2010 team. There are only a handful of guys leftover from that team. You certainly aren't expecting the same results as 2010 after watching the Utah St game, so why should the pollsters? If we're going to play the "if" game, you would be bitching and moaning about the media sucking the Crimson cock if Alabama was ranked 23rd and put in the same type of performance as AU against Utah St and wasn't dropped out of the polls.

Auburn could have totally eliminated the controversy by kicking the living piss out of Utah St. It's what pretty much everybody here thought was going to happen prior to kickoff. If I would have came on here and said you guys are going to have to pull one out of your asses to beat them, you would have laughed me off of this board. If the pollsters had it out for AU, then the team didn't give them much to think about. You would be pissed if they gave any other team the benefit of the doubt because of last season, so I don't see why you expect them to do it for AU.

In 08, Alabama was ranked 24th in the pre-season poll. They were ranked #1 going into the SECCG. All is not lost for AU. If you guys can come out and kick the living fuck out of some ranked teams in a good fashion, and show that all season, I think AU will find themselves in a respectable place in the polls.
I didn't think we would beat the piss outta Utah State, I felt that we'd actually struggle. I was thinking we'd struggle on Offense more than on Defense. Since Jumbo and Petty are the only two people on this board that I talk to on a daily basis, they can tell ya. I told Petty that Auburn wouldn't cover the 21 spread and that USU wasn't going to be a cakewalk.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 06:29:19 PM
I didn't think we would beat the piss outta Utah State, I felt that we'd actually struggle. I was thinking we'd struggle on Offense more than on Defense. Since Jumbo and Petty are the only two people on this board that I talk to on a daily basis, they can tell ya. I told Petty that Auburn wouldn't cover the 21 spread and that USU wasn't going to be a cakewalk.
You were so concerned that you had a confidence level of 10 that AU would beat them in the Battle for the Crown.

Riiiiiiight......... let me guess....Samoans?
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Wincrimson on September 06, 2011, 06:41:46 PM
What's the hullabaloo over not being ranked in a currently meaningless poll?  So you don't get to have a number by your name on ESPN for a week at the shortest.  Tell ya what -- beat State and you'll get it back.  And deservedly so.

I'm surprised that there isn't more concern over who you're going to beat this year than a week 2 AP Poll ranking.  A stout Mississippi State team?  Unlikely.  Coach BOOM and his improved Florida squad?  Probably not.  A Clemson team on the road who had the Fightin' Cams down 17-0 last season?  Doubtful.  Games at Arkansas and South Carolina?  No.  The LSU and Alabama games?  Fuhgeddaboutit.   I'll give you the edge against Ole Miss at home but anyone who watched both teams play this past weekend should recognize that it's no slam dunk for either.  The same can be said for Georgia but they'll likely be the favorite in Athens.

Ole Miss, FAU, and Samford round it out.  And I wasn't in the camp predicting gloom and doom like so many were over the off-season.  I had the expectation that you guys could reach 7-8 wins and have a respectable season.  But, that team I saw Saturday was weakkkkkkk.  And it's not going to get any better.  Sorry.  I know shitty football when I see it and with a little more work, you can be playing shitty football soon.  I lived through the DuBose and Shula years.  And while we didn't get a perfect bounce on an onside kick against a UCF or LaTech, the point remains the same.

FYI, this isn't a flame.  You'll think it is.  But, you'll be wrong.  It's just the way I, and countless others, see it. 
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Token on September 06, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
weakkkkkkk

Shouldn't that be weeeeeeeeeeak?  I think it would sound rather stupid to drag out the k sound at the end of the word. 
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Wincrimson on September 06, 2011, 07:02:34 PM
The more K's the better?  Some seem to think so.

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Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: The Prowler on September 06, 2011, 07:08:49 PM
You were so concerned that you had a confidence level of 10 that AU would beat them in the Battle for the Crown.

Riiiiiiight......... let me guess....Samoans?
Never said I was concerned...is read comprehension that hard for inbred bammers?
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 06, 2011, 07:11:23 PM
Never said I was concerned...is read comprehension that hard for inbred bammers?
Is spelling and grammar that hard for you? I mean, if we're going to go down that road and all.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 06, 2011, 07:30:34 PM
What's the hullabaloo over not being ranked in a currently meaningless poll?  So you don't get to have a number by your name on ESPN for a week at the shortest.  Tell ya what -- beat State and you'll get it back.  And deservedly so.

I'm surprised that there isn't more concern over who you're going to beat this year than a week 2 AP Poll ranking.  A stout Mississippi State team?  Unlikely.  Coach BOOM and his improved Florida squad?  Probably not.  A Clemson team on the road who had the Fightin' Cams down 17-0 last season?  Doubtful.  Games at Arkansas and South Carolina?  No.  The LSU and Alabama games?  Fuhgeddaboutit.   I'll give you the edge against Ole Miss at home but anyone who watched both teams play this past weekend should recognize that it's no slam dunk for either.  The same can be said for Georgia but they'll likely be the favorite in Athens.

Ole Miss, FAU, and Samford round it out.  And I wasn't in the camp predicting gloom and doom like so many were over the off-season.  I had the expectation that you guys could reach 7-8 wins and have a respectable season.  But, that team I saw Saturday was weakkkkkkk.  And it's not going to get any better.  Sorry.  I know shitty football when I see it and with a little more work, you can be playing shitty football soon.  I lived through the DuBose and Shula years.  And while we didn't get a perfect bounce on an onside kick against a UCF or LaTech, the point remains the same.

FYI, this isn't a flame.  You'll think it is.  But, you'll be wrong.  It's just the way I, and countless others, see it.
:troll:
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: The Prowler on September 06, 2011, 08:05:56 PM
Is spelling and grammar that hard for you? I mean, if we're going to go down that road and all.
I noticed that you sidestepped the question, so apparently you are a retarded, inbred bammer that has reading comprehension problems.

I was confident that Auburn would win (hence the "10") but, I didn't think Auburn would beat the crap outta Utah State.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Vandy Vol on September 06, 2011, 08:25:33 PM
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Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: points on September 06, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
it's like a horse race.........it doesn't matter where you start. It's where you finish that counts
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: DnATL on September 06, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
Consistency and polls can not be mentioned in the same sentence.
Oh yeah?

Consistency is AWK always bending over each time a telemarketer asks if he would take a poll
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: The Prowler on September 06, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
it's like a horse race.........it doesn't matter where you start. It's where you finish that counts
bammers and their horses
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: points on September 06, 2011, 10:10:59 PM
who the hell you calling a bammer???????
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: ssgaufan on September 06, 2011, 10:33:21 PM
who the hell you calling a bammer???????

Umm, I think it would be you.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Wincrimson on September 06, 2011, 11:03:01 PM
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Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: points on September 07, 2011, 10:06:15 AM
Prowler you can call me anything you like but calling me a bammer is about the dumbest thing you could do. If you feel the need to check my creds talk to Sani and kiss my ass.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Saniflush on September 07, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
Prowler you can call me anything you like but calling me a bammer is about the dumbest thing you could do. If you feel the need to check my creds talk to Sani and kiss my ass.

it's true. 

Points has Magnolia and College screet cred.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: JR4AU on September 07, 2011, 10:42:54 AM
What's the hullabaloo over not being ranked in a currently meaningless poll?  So you don't get to have a number by your name on ESPN for a week at the shortest.  Tell ya what -- beat State and you'll get it back.  And deservedly so.

I'm surprised that there isn't more concern over who you're going to beat this year than a week 2 AP Poll ranking.  A stout Mississippi State team?  Unlikely.  Coach BOOM and his improved Florida squad?  Probably not.  A Clemson team on the road who had the Fightin' Cams down 17-0 last season?  Doubtful.  Games at Arkansas and South Carolina?  No.  The LSU and Alabama games?  Fuhgeddaboutit.   I'll give you the edge against Ole Miss at home but anyone who watched both teams play this past weekend should recognize that it's no slam dunk for either.  The same can be said for Georgia but they'll likely be the favorite in Athens.

Ole Miss, FAU, and Samford round it out.  And I wasn't in the camp predicting gloom and doom like so many were over the off-season.  I had the expectation that you guys could reach 7-8 wins and have a respectable season.  But, that team I saw Saturday was weakkkkkkk.  And it's not going to get any better.  Sorry. I know shitty football when I see it and with a little more work, you can be playing shitty football soon.  I lived through the DuBose and Shula years.  And while we didn't get a perfect bounce on an onside kick against a UCF or LaTech, the point remains the same.

FYI, this isn't a flame.  You'll think it is.  But, you'll be wrong.  It's just the way I, and countless others, see it.

You bammers and your Auburn prognostication.  You lay out how the season will go, and you're convinced that's the only way it can happen.  Last year, after we squeaked by MSU and Clemson the same things were being said.  The Auburn team that ass raped bammer in Tuberville/Chizik West wasn't nearly the same team that went to Starkville.  The bolded part proves just how big a cock sucking, shit eating, bammer moron you are.  Nothing more, and there can be nothing less.  You're a typical bammer interwebz troll.  Not going to get any better?  Once again, an idiot bammer tells Auburn "give it up, hang up the cleats, y'all are done."  In fact, that's what bammer would love everyone to do...stop trying to compete.  Don't even try, just send bammer the the BCS crystal ball via Fed Ex, they are the rightful owners.  WELL FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING SACK OF SHIT, AND EAT A BAG OF NASTY, PUSS DRIPPING DICKS.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2011, 11:39:48 AM
You bammers and your Auburn prognostication.  You lay out how the season will go, and you're convinced that's the only way it can happen.  Last year, after we squeaked by MSU and Clemson the same things were being said.  The Auburn team that ass raped bammer in Tuberville/Chizik West wasn't nearly the same team that went to Starkville.  The bolded part proves just how big a cock sucking, shit eating, bammer moron you are.  Nothing more, and there can be nothing less.  You're a typical bammer interwebz troll.  Not going to get any better?  Once again, an idiot bammer tells Auburn "give it up, hang up the cleats, y'all are done."  In fact, that's what bammer would love everyone to do...stop trying to compete.  Don't even try, just send bammer the the BCS crystal ball via Fed Ex, they are the rightful owners.  WELL FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING SACK OF SHIT, AND EAT A BAG OF NASTY, PUSS DRIPPING DICKS.

You know, I'm really beginning to get this sneaky suspicion that you don't like Bammers.  Can't quite put my finger on it......but I'll be watching you.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Jumbo on September 07, 2011, 01:15:44 PM
it's true. 

Points has Magnolia and College screet cred.
Sani's legit, closing down bars, hot woman and fast cars.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Wincrimson on September 07, 2011, 01:37:23 PM
You bammers and your Auburn prognostication.  You lay out how the season will go, and you're convinced that's the only way it can happen.

I'm not convinced that my prediction is the only way it can happen.

Dale Nutt has a reputation of winning games he shouldn't -- yet, I guess in this case, it's debatable as to whether Ole Miss should or shouldn't beat Auburn.

I'm not counting the Rebel Black Bears out. 
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 07, 2011, 01:48:28 PM
I'm not convinced that my prediction is the only way it can happen.

Dale Nutt has a reputation of winning games he shouldn't -- yet, I guess in this case, it's debatable as to whether Ole Miss should or shouldn't beat Auburn.

I'm not counting the Rebel Black Bears out.
:troll:
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AUChizad on September 12, 2011, 09:49:48 AM
You know for a 100% fact, that if we were Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, etc., first of all we would have entered the season in the Top 10, and secondly, we wouldn't have dropped a spot. Probably would have moved up considering the teams that lost ahead of us. You'd hear about the amazing comeback and how this team never gives up. I know because I've seen it in the past.
I mean, could I have been more spot on?

http://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/gamedayFinal112/week-2
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Texas' unexpected spark
By David Ubben
ESPN.com

AUSTIN, Texas -- Before he took the field, Jaxon Shipley had a decision to make.

Gloves or no gloves?

Facing a third down near midfield with just less than three minutes to play, offensive coordinator Bryan Harsin dug inside the most famous bag of tricks in college football.

This wasn't Boise, where Harsin used to be the offensive coordinator -- Texas still has a ways to climb before it's back on the big stage -- but it looked like it.

Erich Schlegel/Getty ImagesFreshman wide receiver Jaxon Shipley provided Texas with the spark it needed to get by BYU.

A running back handed the ball to a streaking Shipley, who tossed it downfield to dual-threat, zone-read specialist quarterback David Ash.

BYU didn't touch the ball again. Texas won 17-16 after trailing 13-0 at the half.

"That was something we tried to set up," Harsin said. "Their third-down defense was pretty good, and we needed to get some kind of spark there. It was an opportunity -- we felt it would work in that situation."

That word -- spark -- seemed to come up a lot after Saturday's win. Quarterback Garrett Gilbert struggled early. Texas' offense needed a spark. It won't be the last time that word comes up, but most often, it'll be aimed at the revolving door behind center that replaced Gilbert, filled by Ash and Case McCoy.

But on Saturday night, with Texas trailing 16-10, it was Shipley, the true freshman receiver, who provided it to spark a go-ahead touchdown drive with two plays before the Boise-influenced razzle dazzle took over Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium.

His first catch of the night? He made it in traffic for 14 yards -- and hurdled two defenders as he caught it. Not after he caught it.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: GH2001 on September 12, 2011, 10:22:30 AM
I mean, could I have been more spot on?

http://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/gamedayFinal112/week-2

Thing is, aside from that play, Texas looked like pure shit.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: AWK on September 12, 2011, 11:05:08 AM
Another thing, just to prove my point.  Where the fuck is wincrimson now??? 

I would be willing to bet double his monthly salary (whatever the fuck minimum wage is) that if we had lost he would be spamming the shit out of the board as we speak.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Kaos on September 12, 2011, 11:18:39 AM
Another thing, just to prove my point.  Where the fuck is wincrimson now??? 

I would be willing to bet double his monthly salary (whatever the fuck minimum wage is) that if we had lost he would be spamming the shit out of the board as we speak.

He's writing for tideandtigerblogspot.org.com.net
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: JR4AU on September 12, 2011, 12:45:32 PM
I'm not convinced that my prediction is the only way it can happen.

Dale Nutt has a reputation of winning games he shouldn't -- yet, I guess in this case, it's debatable as to whether Ole Miss should or shouldn't beat Auburn.

I'm not counting the Rebel Black Bears out.

Im convinced you're a douchenozzle.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Godfather on September 12, 2011, 12:47:43 PM
Im convinced you're a douchenozzle.
I'm convinced that JR is convinced!
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: RWS on September 12, 2011, 02:53:07 PM
You guys are so convincing.
Title: Re: Guess who is no longer ranked?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 12, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
You guys are so convincing.

You serious?  I'm not convinced.