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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on May 02, 2008, 06:07:08 PM
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This coming from someone in attendance...Not ME.
Last evening...
Sporting a teal (as in it could have come straight from the Miami Dolphins team store) blazer, Nick Saban arrived as the '80s rock star of the Crimson Caravan last evening in Huntsville.
He joked that he'd heard too much criticism about always wearing one of his three (he does have more than one!) gray suits that he branched out with the Don Johnson look, complete with the black mock turtleneck.
Anyway, during his brief visit with the media before speaking to a crowd of about 700 foaming at the mouth turder incestors at the South Hall of Von Braun Center, he spoke highly of the spuat nation, who he asserts is deserving of the imminent return to their "rightful" place among college football powers. (I thought they were already there - 8th or 9th best program in the SEC this decade.)
He was clearly not happy with the published reports of his private comments during his Crimsom Revival stops at Dothan and Talladega earlier last week and this week; he told the media present that if he saw his visit mentioned or if any of his remarks were printed or recorded in any form, he would not return to Huntsville to speak again.
Later, when he addressed the true believers and rock star worshippers, he warned them, too, that if any of his comments made it to the internet, he'd never set foot in a REC meeting in Huntsville again. Shortly thereafter, his storm troopers starting taking photos and names of the 700 members of the congregation in case they needed to track down any infidels later. They KNOW where YOU live!
His actual speaking engagement lasted 20-25 minutes. He really got the cousin grinders and 'necks fired up and they interrupted his fire and brimstone speech every 2-3 minutes with standing ovations and Rebel yells. I'm convinced if you closed your eyes and just listened to his molding and manipulation of the true believers, you could easily transport yourself back to the late '30s, early '40s and find yourself in Nazi Germany -- listening to Hitler scream and shout about PURITY of RACE, RIGHTFUL PLACE IN HISTORY, DOMINATING THE WORLD...and on and on. Seriously.
He reminded everyone of "how close" spuat was to dominating the SEC last year (close, late losses to eventual BCS Champion LSU as well as an OT loss to this year's pre-season #1 pick, UGA); he promised that "they" hadn't seen anything yet, that last year's #1 ranked recruiting class was "just the beginning"...within three years spuat's 85-man squad would be the biggest, strongest, deepest, most talented 85-man squad in all of college football. He repeated (at least 3-4 times) the mantra that HE would DOMINATE his in-state rival on and off the field, that college football would soon FEAR the spuat Program....that college football programs, coaches, and fans would absolutely "rue the day" HE took the head coaching job at spuat. That remark drew a standing O that was heard throughout southeast Huntsville for 3-4 minutes. In addition, I'm pretty sure I saw close to 100 cousins drop to the floor and start having sex - they were so excited about the Savior's promises...
By the way, I would offer photographic evidence of this but all cameras and cell phones were confiscated at the door.
At any rate, the SaBear closed the evening's worship service with the same closing remarks heretofore offered at all of his recent Revival meetings...
"The University of Alabama is special. Alabama fans are special."
"I am special."
Autographed copies of THE SaBear with his 2008 National Recruiting Championship Trophy were sold at the door on the way out; they were sold out in less than 5 minutes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/antibama/saban_playgirl4.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/HELLNO.jpg)
It's on the EDSBS website as well.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/
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Prowler.....................what the hell are you trying to do to me?
Thanks for fucking it all up. After looking at that picture I'll never be able to look at Saban the same again.
That's just really fucking GAY! Son of a bitch. I guess it's what I get hanging with you mofos.
If I didn't know any better though ,I'd think you may have an obsession with Nick Saban. Afer all your name is '' prowler''
I know you got that from somewhere else but I would have done just fine never have ever,ever seeing that shit.
Methinks you are a ruthless bastard. :blink:
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:rofl: :rofl: I just took a picture of my $abban Calender for February... :rofl:
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:rofl: :rofl: I just took a picture of my $abban Calender for February... :rofl:
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Dude you ain't fuckin' right
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"When I first got to LSU, LSU had not beaten Alabama in Baton Rouge since 1968. There was a crisis on confidence. Nobody thought that we could beat Alabama....not the players and not the fans. But then, we did beat Alabama. Now, that is the kind of mental frame of mind that we are going to create again. We've got to recruit good players. I can't win with bad players. But we are going to recruit good players, who also want to be good students and good representatives of our university, and we are going to work hard and be responsible for our own self-determination, and I'll say this: It's going to be that way again. Nobody in the country is going to want to play Alabama. Nobody is going to be able to match our conditioning, our toughness, and our relentless spirit to compete as hard as we can for 60 minutes in a game. We want our opponents to look at us and say, "There is no way that I am going to be able to withstand that." - Quote the Saban, nevermore.
This has been posted on the Rivals national board. Saban ain't gonna be happy.
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"When I first got to LSU, LSU had not beaten Alabama in Baton Rouge since 1968. There was a crisis on confidence. Nobody thought that we could beat Alabama....not the players and not the fans. But then, we did beat Alabama. Now, that is the kind of mental frame of mind that we are going to create again. We've got to recruit good players. I can't win with bad players. But we are going to recruit good players, who also want to be good students and good representatives of our university, and we are going to work hard and be responsible for our own self-determination, and I'll say this: It's going to be that way again. Nobody in the country is going to want to play Alabama. Nobody is going to be able to match our conditioning, our toughness, and our relentless spirit to compete as hard as we can for 60 minutes in a game. We want our opponents to look at us and say, "There is no way that I am going to be able to withstand that." - Quote the Saban, nevermore.
This has been posted on the Rivals national board. Saban ain't gonna be happy.
Dude has some issues, who doesn't?
I've said it before; His attitude is exactly what the program needed. It's lacked stability, leadership and confidence sine Gene Stallings left. There will be bumps and set backs along the way. It may get worse before it gets better. It's normal. I enjoy other fan bases hating on Saban. It is a round about way of proof that other fan bases, despite the humor and fun they are having, if I wasn't a Bama fan I'd do the same thing, know what he can do. He has proven it. Doesn't guarantee he'll do it at Bama but most of us like our chance and are willing to put up with his attitude. I for one whole-heartedly believe it is needed to change the thought process of the fan base and attitude of the program.
In two years, if I'm wrong, I’ll take my medicine like a man. I have no problems with owning up to being wrong.
I'm confident, at this time that I won't have to worry about that.
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I enjoy other fan bases hating on Saban. It is a round about way of proof that other fan bases, despite the humor and fun they are having, if I wasn't a Bama fan I'd do the same thing, know what he can do. He has proven it.
About all he's proven since winning the trophy at LSU is that he's a colossal ass who tucks tail and runs when the chips are down. Thus, the hilarity in his bravado.
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About all he's proven since winning the trophy at LSU is that he's a colossal ass who tucks tail and runs when the chips are down. Thus, the hilarity in his bravado.
Leaving one job you don't like for another you prefer doesn't mean he ran because the ''chips were down'', as you are insinuating. Why do some Auburn fans find that hard to understand? I'm sure you've left one job over another for no other reason than you didn't like it. Does that mean you tuck your tail and run when the chips are down? As far as that goes didn't your coach do the same thing to Ole Miss?
I'll agree with you that in his first year taking over a program, he didn't impress to many people. I damn sure didn't expect him to take over the world in his first year. Soon enough you'll get proof of what's to come. It started with a very good recruiting class and I don't see it stopping anytime soon.
Like I said, he's proved it before and chances are he will again.
I also agree that he is an ass. So what. I find it humorus as well.
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What I find hilarious is that Saban acts like he created a beast at LSU that "nobody wants to play." OOohhhh, we've been so scared of the LSU team that lost 3 games every year he was there save the one with the NC. LSU didn't turn into the giant that it is until Les Miles got there. Whether or not you believe that should be credited to Nick Saban is subjective.
And I'm sure that "nobody is going to want to play" the Alabama teams that have no draft picks, lose to LA Monroe, lose 6 games a year, and enjoy Eggnog in Shreveport. :taunt:
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$abban has his sights set for bigger bowls this year. He has his players believing that it can be accomplished now that the PapaJohns.com Bowl will be accepting SEC teams. Remember, "We bowlin', Baby, We bowlin'"
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Leaving one job you don't like for another you prefer doesn't mean he ran because the ''chips were down'', as you are insinuating. Why do some Auburn fans find that hard to understand? I'm sure you've left one job over another for no other reason than you didn't like it. Does that mean you tuck your tail and run when the chips are down? As far as that goes didn't your coach do the same thing to Ole Miss?
Leaving Ole Miss to take the reins at Auburn = Step up (even if Auburn was in its worst condition ever).
Leaving the NFL to take the reins at Alabama (or Meeeechigan or USC or any other college program) = Step down.
See the difference? The 'Fins were in the dumper, $aban's rep as "the man" was taking a hit, so he cut and run.
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Leaving Ole Miss to take the reins at Auburn = Step up (even if Auburn was in its worst condition ever).
Leaving the NFL to take the reins at Alabama (or Meeeechigan or USC or any other college program) = Step down.
See the difference? The 'Fins were in the dumper, $aban's rep as "the man" was taking a hit, so he cut and run.
The only difference I see is our opinion. It's a step down in what way? Money, fame, stature?
He did not like the NFL. He prefers college coaching. I've heard other coaches say the same things. Add what ever you like or insert whatever opinion you want to it. He said he didn't enjoy a lot of the aspects of the NFL. I choose to believe him on that.
townhallsavoy, say what you want about LSU, Saban coached them to a championship while he was there and Miles enjoyed the luxury of some quality talent Saban left there for Miles to work with. That is certainly a fact that no one can deny. Even Miles himself credited Saban for the talent of the players he inherited,
so saying it is subjective as to weather Saban was responsible for a big portion of LSU's success is BS. In fact his recruiting classes are directly responsible for two championships at LSU.
Of course no one should be afraid to play a first year coach who brought in a new staff and is in his first year at the helm of a new job. You know better than to expect any coach to over come that. I certainly do.
How do you turn a program around? You start from the ground up and it starts with better talent. He's doing that. It also takes time. It's been one year. How long have you guys had? 10.
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townhallsavoy, say what you want about LSU, Saban coached them to a championship while he was there and Miles enjoyed the luxury of some quality talent Saban left there for Miles to work with. That is certainly a fact that no one can deny. Even Miles himself credited Saban for the talent of the players he inherited,
so saying it is subjective as to weather Saban was responsible for a big portion of LSU's success is BS. In fact his recruiting classes are directly responsible for two championships at LSU.
Alabama's first three records after Paul Bryant retired - (8-4) (5-6) (9-2).
Florida's first three records after Steve Spurrier left for the NFL - (8-5) (8-5) (7-5).
Miami's first three records after Dennis Erikson left - (8-3) (9-3) (5-6).
LSU's first three records after Nick Saban left - (11-2) (11-2) (12-2 NC).
The common trend is for teams to downgrade after their legendary coach leaves. However, in Les Miles's case, he actually performed much better than his predecessor. Might this be attributed to the good players at LSU? Sure. But the fact is, Les Miles has performed better than Nick Saban with Nick Saban's players.
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Alabama's first three records after Paul Bryant retired - (8-4) (5-6) (9-2).
Florida's first three records after Steve Spurrier left for the NFL - (8-5) (8-5) (7-5).
Miami's first three records after Dennis Erikson left - (8-3) (9-3) (5-6).
LSU's first three records after Nick Saban left - (11-2) (11-2) (12-2 NC).
The common trend is for teams to downgrade after their legendary coach leaves. However, in Les Miles's case, he actually performed much better than his predecessor. Might this be attributed to the good players at LSU? Sure. But the fact is, Les Miles has performed better than Nick Saban with Nick Saban's players.
I don't know if Saban would be considered a legendary coach.
Miles has done a fine job. I'm not downplaying his accomplishments. Dude has some hardware in the trophy case next to Saban's but for you to say that Saban didn't have any responsibility or credibility to the success that Miles has enjoyed and it is subjective is not true. Had he stayed he would have notched his second championship title at LSU.
I'll take Saban any day of the week as a coach. Everyone is very quick to criticize him for one single season at Bama. He's already done something no one expected coming off a 7 and 6 season. Does it matter that he used early playtime? Hell no it doesn't. It's the end results that matter and this thing has just started. It's the first step and in due time most of you guys will hate him even more.
I understand the hate. Doesn't bother me because he deserves a lot of the criticism he gets. I don't think he cares either. What will bother me is if he doesn't produce a respectable team that competes year in and year out. I'm willing to give him the time it takes to do that. Until then, I’m cool. I'll address it when that time comes.
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I don't know if Saban would be considered a legendary coach.
Miles has done a fine job. I'm not downplaying his accomplishments. Dude has some hardware in the trophy case next to Saban's but for you to say that Saban didn't have any responsibility or credibility to the success that Miles has enjoyed and it is subjective is not true. Had he stayed he would have notched his second championship title at LSU.
I'll take Saban any day of the week as a coach. Everyone is very quick to criticize him for one single season at Bama. He's already done something no one expected coming off a 7 and 6 season. Does it matter that he used early playtime? Hell no it doesn't. It's the end results that matter and this thing has just started. It's the first step and in due time most of you guys will hate him even more.
I understand the hate. Doesn't bother me because he deserves a lot of the criticism he gets. I don't think he cares either. What will bother me is if he doesn't produce a respectable team that competes year in and year out. I'm willing to give him the time it takes to do that. Until then, I’m cool. I'll address it when that time comes.
"for you to say that Saban didn't have any responsibility or credibility to the success that Miles has enjoyed and it is subjective is not true. Had he stayed he would have notched his second championship title at LSU."
No he wouldn't have. Saban would have gone 6-6 every year and been forced to resign after 2007.
See how easy that is? Nick Saban's coaching record has DECLINED since his championship season. He lost 3 games in 2004 (typical for a Saban coached team) and then had a mediocre career in the NFL. Follow that up with a 7-6 season at Alabama, and Nick Saban's statements carry zero weight outside of the Crimson Tide faithful.
For all we know, if it weren't for Les Miles, Nick Saban's 9-3 season would have been followed by an 8-4 season. Thanks to Miles, LSU was able to rebuild and go 11-2. According to the numbers, Miles actually fixed the LSU program.
It's subjective.
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Well thank goodness Miles rebuilt that pathetic program that Saban left LSU with. :rofl:
What the hell does Saban's record in the NFL have to do with any of this? Not a damn thing. You can use the man's first year as a gauge if you want but you know that's bullshit to.
Here's Lester Edwin’s record before he got to a talent rich LSU team that Saban left him with.
Oklahoma State Cowboys (Big 12 Conference) (2001 – 2004)
2001 Oklahoma State 4–7 2–6 5 - South
2002 Oklahoma State 8–5 5–3 4 - South W 33–23 Houston
2003 Oklahoma State 9–4 5–3 3 - South L 31–28 Cotton
2004 Oklahoma State 7–5 4–4 5 - South L 33–7 Alamo
Oklahoma State: 28–21 16–16
Notice that first year 4 - 7 Is it fair to say that is any indication as to what to expect from him or he's bound to be no better than that? Also take note of the last year. 7 - 5. Out of three bowls he has two losses and a 28- 21 record. Did he magically become a better coach all of a sudden? Yea right :taunt:
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Well thank goodness Miles rebuilt that pathetic program that Saban left LSU with. :rofl:
What the hell does Saban's record in the NFL have to do with any of this? Not a damn thing. You can use the man's first year as a gauge if you want but you know that's bullshit to.
Here's Lester Edwin’s record before he got to a talent rich LSU team that Saban left him with.
Oklahoma State Cowboys (Big 12 Conference) (2001 – 2004)
2001 Oklahoma State 4–7 2–6 5 - South
2002 Oklahoma State 8–5 5–3 4 - South W 33–23 Houston
2003 Oklahoma State 9–4 5–3 3 - South L 31–28 Cotton
2004 Oklahoma State 7–5 4–4 5 - South L 33–7 Alamo
Oklahoma State: 28–21 16–16
Notice that first year 4 - 7 Is it fair to say that is any indication as to what to expect from him or he's bound to be no better than that? Also take note of the last year. 7 - 5. Out of three bowls he has two losses and a 28- 21 record. Did he magically become a better coach all of a sudden? Yea right :taunt:
NOW you're acting like a bammer.
I knew that charade couldn't last long.
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NOW you're acting like a bammer.
I knew that charade couldn't last long.
I don't know what you expect. I really don't.
As long as I keep my mouth shut when some one pushes the issues of how much a piece of shit Saban is or his 7 and 6 record in the first year I'm not a bammer. I have tried to keep it toned down and respond properly. You help me out here. Tell me where I went too far or what I did that was improper. I guess by defending my opinion it automatically damned me to acting like a bammer. I like it here but man if it means that I can stand a little ground once in a while then what the hell fun is for me to be here?
AUChizard, with all due respects, do you or did you expect me to not reply and engage in some of the topics concerning Bama or Saban? I realize you guys hate him and despise anyone who would defend him. I'm sorry but I am a Bama fan. That's what some do sometimes. What do you expect me to do? It's what you would do for your coach or team.
I'm trying to be as respectable as I can. This is your house and I respect it. I'm trying very hard to not be disrespectful.
Of course some of it is going to get heated from time to time but I would hardly call this heated, over the line or anything else other than equal responses to what THS was putting up.
I really am sorry you feel that way but I don't know how to enjoy this board if I can't stand by my opinion and be allowed to speak my mind and defend my position as others can.
Again, all apologies for whatever line I crossed or whatever it was I did that was unacceptable. I started to get a little comfortable here and thought I could enjoy the freedom to maybe stand up a little. That was a mistake.
Sorry about that.
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Just because you're a bammer doesn't mean that you can't state your opinions. I agree that, so far, you've been Very level headed about most of the topics and defending something that you think is right, doesn't mean that it's not a level headed post.
As for you being a bammer fan.....Booooooo!!!!! Hisssssss!! Hisssssss!!!! The Devil Shall LEAVE This Place....Be GONE!!!! DEVIL!!!!!!
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Oh yeah.... :fu: , Chicken Fucker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSjHG0QlvTg&feature=related
Now prepare for your lashings, for being a bammer fan, and stating your opinions...We will have none of that on this unbiased message board, lol... :s&m:
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Yeah...what Prowler said.
Censorship is the last thing we're about here.
Just saying, that post was the first indication of a typical bama fan argument made by you in your tenure here.
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Well thank goodness Miles rebuilt that pathetic program that Saban left LSU with. :rofl:
What the hell does Saban's record in the NFL have to do with any of this? Not a damn thing. You can use the man's first year as a gauge if you want but you know that's bullshit to.
Here's Lester Edwin’s record before he got to a talent rich LSU team that Saban left him with.
Oklahoma State Cowboys (Big 12 Conference) (2001 – 2004)
2001 Oklahoma State 4–7 2–6 5 - South
2002 Oklahoma State 8–5 5–3 4 - South W 33–23 Houston
2003 Oklahoma State 9–4 5–3 3 - South L 31–28 Cotton
2004 Oklahoma State 7–5 4–4 5 - South L 33–7 Alamo
Oklahoma State: 28–21 16–16
Notice that first year 4 - 7 Is it fair to say that is any indication as to what to expect from him or he's bound to be no better than that? Also take note of the last year. 7 - 5. Out of three bowls he has two losses and a 28- 21 record. Did he magically become a better coach all of a sudden? Yea right :taunt:
BLS, here's the issue: According to Saban's performances in the years after the 2003 season, he has not shown the same level of coaching ability.
Also - back to my original point - I never said it had nothing to do with Nick Saban. Whether or not LSU's success should be credited to Saban in any way is purely subjective. It works both ways - he recruited so well that Miles couldn't lose/Nick Saban's recruiting had no factor in LSU's current status.
HOWEVER. According to the numbers. According to something that is actually tangible - not just Rivals recruiting rankings. Nick Saban performed WORSE with his own players than Les Miles has. Les Miles has not won less than 11 games since taking over the LSU program. Think about that.
Now, if Saban created a beast that "nobody wanted to play," why in the hell did he lose 3 games every year but one? LSU may have been a good football team with Saban there, but it did not become the powerhouse that it is now until Les Miles got there. You absolutely can't refute that unless you have a subjective opinion on the recruiting that Saban did while he was there.
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Prowler,......... :fu: I love you too bitch! :moon:
Seriously, thanks for seeing my attempt to try. I thought I was doing a pretty good job of not being an asshole or '' typical bammer''. I don't want that shit to get started here. I appreciate it. I just might make you my bitch before it's over. :rofl:
Just kidding bro! Appreciate it. :flag:
AUChizard, dude like I said, what the hell do you expect? I'm serious when I asked if you would point out or show me what difference my response was to what THS was serving? What was it that turned it into a ''typical Bammer'' response? Where?
Maybe I don't see something you do? Don't mistake this for trying to be smart assed. It definitely ain't that.
I want to know the difference between what THS was saying and doing versus what I was saying and doing. Show me the difference.
I've been having a great time here. You guys run a fucking unique and damn sure fun site. Even for an outsider like me. I'm trying to understand something here.
I'm going to answer THS. I hope to hell it meets with approval. :flag:
townhallsavoy, here is your quote,
''BLS, here's the issue: According to Saban's performances in the years after the 2003 season, he has not shown the same level of coaching ability''.
Saban won the championship in ''03''', by your accounts then he's coach exactly TWO season in the college ranks.
The first being ''04 '' at LSU where he went 9 - 3. That record is credible and can be justifiably used. After a championship season I hardly find that to be less than successful. How many coaches have back to backs? Pete Caroll lost 2 after the championship and he's in the pac 10. Saban's next season was 3 years later! His first year at Alabama. Last year. A new job, staff, players and everything else to go with it. So that's 1 year after a championship and 3 years later his first year on a new job. You want to use that stat to make a statement about the performance of his coaching ability? That's bullshit. You know that.
Since I'm the ''typical Bammer'' I suppose it's fair for YOU to make that assessment.
You still didn't address the record Miles had before coming to LSU. 4 - 7 to start 7-5 to finish. Is that a fair assesment?
At least Miles had the luxury of being at the same place to garner those records. Something you are not willing to afford Saban. But that's cool.
I'm sure we will see soon enough how Miles does after his championship season this year with ''his'' own players. I look forward to it.
I hope I don't offend any one. I don't know any other way to say what I just said.
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I hope I don't offend any one.
The beauty of this forum is nobody gives a damn if you offend someone. We'll all be on the receiving end from time to time.
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Prowler,......... :fu: I love you too bitch! :moon:
Seriously, thanks for seeing my attempt to try. I thought I was doing a pretty good job of not being an asshole or '' typical bammer''. I don't want that shit to get started here. I appreciate it. I just might make you my bitch before it's over. :rofl:
Just kidding bro! Appreciate it. :flag:
AUChizard, dude like I said, what the hell do you expect? I'm serious when I asked if you would point out or show me what difference my response was to what THS was serving? What was it that turned it into a ''typical Bammer'' response? Where?
Maybe I don't see something you do? Don't mistake this for trying to be smart assed. It definitely ain't that.
I want to know the difference between what THS was saying and doing versus what I was saying and doing. Show me the difference.
I've been having a great time here. You guys run a fucking unique and damn sure fun site. Even for an outsider like me. I'm trying to understand something here.
I'm going to answer THS. I hope to hell it meets with approval. :flag:
townhallsavoy, here is your quote,
''BLS, here's the issue: According to Saban's performances in the years after the 2003 season, he has not shown the same level of coaching ability''.
Saban won the championship in ''03''', by your accounts then he's coach exactly TWO season in the college ranks.
The first being ''04 '' at LSU where he went 9 - 3. That record is credible and can be justifiably used. After a championship season I hardly find that to be less than successful. How many coaches have back to backs? Pete Caroll lost 2 after the championship and he's in the pac 10. Saban's next season was 3 years later! His first year at Alabama. Last year. A new job, staff, players and everything else to go with it. So that's 1 year after a championship and 3 years later his first year on a new job. You want to use that stat to make a statement about the performance of his coaching ability? That's bullshit. You know that.
Since I'm the ''typical Bammer'' I suppose it's fair for YOU to make that assessment.
You still didn't address the record Miles had before coming to LSU. 4 - 7 to start 7-5 to finish. Is that a fair assesment?
At least Miles had the luxury of being at the same place to garner those records. Something you are not willing to afford Saban. But that's cool.
I'm sure we will see soon enough how Miles does after his championship season this year with ''his'' own players. I look forward to it.
I hope I don't offend any one. I don't know any other way to say what I just said.
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Okay, let's make Les Miles' tenure at Oklahoma State relevant:
Based on the recent history of Les Miles' performances vs Nick Saban's performances, Nick Saban would have had less successful seasons at Oklahoma State.
How can I make this assessment? Simple - Nick Saban lost an average of three games per year while at LSU and only won more than 10 games once. Les Miles, who took over the program that you credit to Nick Saban, has not lost more than 2 games and has not won less than 11 games.
You know what? That's fine. Credit LSU's level of talent to Nick Saban. There's still no way to refute the fact that Les Miles has done better at LSU than Nick Saban did. You can attempt to predict the future if you'd like, but that's back to the original problematic word "subjective."
Also, your decision to ignore Saban's tenure in the NFL is entirely up to you. However, let me just say that it DID happen, and even though Saban might have had a rough team to deal with, the Miami Dolphins were on a downward spiral with him as the head coach.
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I'm not discounting Saban's tenure in the NFL. Your comparing apples to oranges by trying to use his record in the NFL on a college level. Your also distorting it by taking Saban's first year on a new job to prove his coaching abilities are declining. You use two seasons in a 4-year span, one of which was a first year gig. To be fair let's take 4 years at one spot for both coaches with each having his own players. That's as fair as can be.
Using your logic on Saban's 4 year record at LSU , (first year 8-4 last year 9-3, with one championship)
I applied the same logic to Miles record at OK St. where he had ''his'' players, not a loaded team at LSU. Miles' comparison was worse. First year 4-7 last year 7-4. Is it fair or even accurate to use the OK.St. numbers as an indication of what to expect from Miles? Of course not. Nor is it fair to use NFL and one year at Alabama to base a decline in Saban's coaching.
I said it already; Miles has done well at LSU. Some of it is credited to some of the talent Saban left. All the ''experts'' would agree that Saban left a wealth of talent for Miles to enjoy. Miles has done a great job with them.
If you take both career records they each average 2 losses a year and both of them have 1 championship apiece. Not much difference. The only advantage I could give would be Saban's responsibility for having his recruits being part of 2 championships. Miles did coach them for the second one but Saban did bring them to LSU.
I personally believe things will change soon at LSU and Alabama. I'm sure most will disagree with it but, it's all good. We could debate that all day long. Only time will prove it.
LSU has enjoyed some great success. Seems that the fans would appreciate the shape It was left in.
I know one thing that is certain. When Saban does leave, Alabama will be in much better shape than it was when he got here. If he does for us what he did for LSU I will be more than happy.
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Why don't the two of you just meet somewhere and settle this like men, or boys, or kids, or whatever the hell you are, because this thread reminds me of one that would be on another site. IT'S FUCKING BORING!!!
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Why don't the two of you just meet somewhere and settle this like men, or boys, or kids, or whatever the hell you are, because this thread reminds me of one that would be on another site. IT'S FUCKING BORING!!!
Wow, good job logging on just to ridicule a thread on a message board. You really must be bored. Has the woman eating a banana picture quit working for you during your jack off times? I suggest finding some new material because I can guarantee being an internet asshole is going to lose its entertainment a lot quicker than jerking off.
In other words, don't read the thread if it bores you.
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Wow, good job logging on just to ridicule a thread on a message board.
In other words, don't read the thread if it bores you.
townshall, we might not be able to agree on somethings but we can definitely agree on this one. :thumbsup:
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I don't give a shit if you respond to a thread by saying, "Saban Ruwles, 43,325 National Championships, etc... etc..." As long as you have good arguments occasionally and have fun its all good. Regarding offending everyone, it doesnt matter. Fuck everyone :fu: This forum is all about fun, its not about what particular forum a thread should go in or how big someones E-penis is...which mine is massive by the way.
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Mine's Fuckin' BIGGER......Goddamn it.
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I love how townhall's panties are so far up his own asscrack that he can't see himself in the mirror through the pink cotton threads. If he could, he'd see the big gaping asshole staring him in the eye.
Congrats on trying to spread "reason" to ssgaufan. Almost worked.
..Oh...and ss...
Keep those pics comin'! :vn:
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Guy's I'm out of the country for 4 days and I missed all this fun! Nice thread so far, Its good to have some rival fans on here to discuss football :clap: No one is going to be offended over here, so everyone go fist your dog and fuck off
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so everyone go fist your dog and fuck off
Again? My dog runs every time he sees me now. :sad:
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Wooo Hooo! I'm an internet asshole! :wave:
Townhall, I didn't log in just to make that statement, I check this board quite often. Also, I read threads because on this board they tend to get hijacked with some funny shit, your shit wasn't funny. That is all I was saying, next time don't take your internet self so seriously. :sad:
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Wooo Hooo! I'm an internet asshole! :wave:
Townhall, I didn't log in just to make that statement, I check this board quite often. Also, I read threads because on this board they tend to get hijacked with some funny shit, your shit wasn't funny. That is all I was saying, next time don't take your internet self so seriously. :sad:
Moral? - If you are going to hijack, better make that shit funny, yo.
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I E-jacked off this weekend to one of the threads in the Concourse. My E-penis was so sore afterwards.
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I E-jacked off this weekend to one of the threads in the Concourse. My E-penis was so sore afterwards.
I got an E job from one of the biker chicks.
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I think you should all go fist a dog.
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I think you should all go fist a dog.
Everybody? Hope its a Great Dane....
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Wooo Hooo! I'm an internet asshole! :wave:
Townhall, I didn't log in just to make that statement, I check this board quite often. Also, I read threads because on this board they tend to get hijacked with some funny shit, your shit wasn't funny. That is all I was saying, next time don't take your internet self so seriously. :sad:
I don't like the tone of this thread.
You'd better start rambling about something incoherent and completely unrelated to prior posts or you'll get the hammer.
Gay themed hijacks are preferred.
:fu:
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I need a E penius in my mouth :puke:
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I need a E penius in my mouth :puke:
Bend over. I got your hard drive right here.
E-smack makes me moist
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This is starting to turn fucking E GAY
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Wooo Hooo! I'm an internet asshole! :wave:
Townhall, I didn't log in just to make that statement, I check this board quite often. Also, I read threads because on this board they tend to get hijacked with some funny shit, your shit wasn't funny. That is all I was saying, next time don't take your internet self so seriously. :sad:
Wow. Yeah. All these funny threads on the football forum. "Here's a funny emoticon. I like emoticons. Hey, here comes Chopper with something asshole to say. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. We like jerking it to pictures of chicks we'll never meet in real life because the women in our lives are either nonexistent or uglier than asscrack hair. Ha ha. Ha ha. Maybe I'm depressed."
Here, allow me to make this thread more on your level:
http://www.girlvinyl.com/eel/
Try those out and see if it's still funny.
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I'm not clicking the link because if it is what I suspect it is, I've seen that eel-related video and once was enough.
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Wow. Yeah. All these funny threads on the football forum. "Here's a funny emoticon. I like emoticons. Hey, here comes Chopper with something asshole to say. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. We like jerking it to pictures of chicks we'll never meet in real life because the women in our lives are either nonexistent or uglier than asscrack hair. Ha ha. Ha ha. Maybe I'm depressed."
Here, allow me to make this thread more on your level:
http://www.girlvinyl.com/eel/
Try those out and see if it's still funny.
If you'd take two seconds to get your lathered up pencil rod out of fmnstr's facial spread, you'd see that we're doing nothing you don't already do.
Oh, and I think it's fantastic that you make fun of naked women on here. It's only the clinching proof that a "gay hijack" theme to this thread is your ultimate goal.
Sorry townhall, but no real dick for you today. You just get more E-penis, and you'll enjoy it.
I'm not clicking on any link. You haven't risen to our level of assholeness yet, so you don't deserve it.
Denied.
FAIL!
I LOVE Wednesday! :vn:
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I clicked it. There was one Asian woman pouring tiny eels through a funnel into another Asian woman's butthole. I didn't stick around for the ending.
Not really sure why you would pour tiny eels into your butthole. Doesn't make sense to me. I've never pondered the possibility of deriving pleasure from pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole. Would it be the person pouring the tiny eels into someone else's butthole that this gives plaesure to, or is it the person receiving the tiny eels into their own butthole that's supposed to be having fun?
And who would think of pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole in the first place? Can't see that thought crossing my mind. More importantly, who would think to search for a video of someone pouring tiny eels into someone else's butthole? Seems logical that the thought crossed their mind. "You know, I wonder if there are any videos of people pouring tiny eels into each other's butthole's. I think I'll do a search. Hey, if I find any, I could post the video on a message board of people pouring tiny eels into each other's buttholes whenever a thread goes off topic."
Something strange about pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole.
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just sayin'
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I clicked it. There was one Asian woman pouring tiny eels through a funnel into another Asian woman's butthole. I didn't stick around for the ending.
Not really sure why you would pour tiny eels into your butthole. Doesn't make sense to me. I've never pondered the possibility of deriving pleasure from pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole. Would it be the person pouring the tiny eels into someone else's butthole that this gives plaesure to, or is it the person receiving the tiny eels into their own butthole that's supposed to be having fun?
And who would think of pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole in the first place? Can't see that thought crossing my mind. More importantly, who would think to search for a video of someone pouring tiny eels into someone else's butthole? Seems logical that the thought crossed their mind. "You know, I wonder if there are any videos of people pouring tiny eels into each other's butthole's. I think I'll do a search. Hey, if I find any, I could post the video on a message board of people pouring tiny eels into each other's buttholes whenever a thread goes off topic."
Something strange about pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole.
It's not about butthole pleasures....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oeQg1tmqhA
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I clicked it. There was one Asian woman pouring tiny eels through a funnel into another Asian woman's butthole. I didn't stick around for the ending.
Not really sure why you would pour tiny eels into your butthole. Doesn't make sense to me. I've never pondered the possibility of deriving pleasure from pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole. Would it be the person pouring the tiny eels into someone else's butthole that this gives plaesure to, or is it the person receiving the tiny eels into their own butthole that's supposed to be having fun?
And who would think of pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole in the first place? Can't see that thought crossing my mind. More importantly, who would think to search for a video of someone pouring tiny eels into someone else's butthole? Seems logical that the thought crossed their mind. "You know, I wonder if there are any videos of people pouring tiny eels into each other's butthole's. I think I'll do a search. Hey, if I find any, I could post the video on a message board of people pouring tiny eels into each other's buttholes whenever a thread goes off topic."
Something strange about pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole.
That's just foreplay. It's all they need.
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Damn Townasshole, you nailed it. I am a hump back virgin, and this is all I have, thanks for calling me out. I think that I will go jerk off now. :fu:
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If you'd take two seconds to get your lathered up pencil rod out of fmnstr's facial spread, you'd see that we're doing nothing you don't already do.
Oh, and I think it's fantastic that you make fun of naked women on here. It's only the clinching proof that a "gay hijack" theme to this thread is your ultimate goal.
Sorry townhall, but no real dick for you today. You just get more E-penis, and you'll enjoy it.
I'm not clicking on any link. You haven't risen to our level of assholeness yet, so you don't deserve it.
Denied.
FAIL!
I LOVE Wednesday! :vn:
Fmnstr...wow. Still using that same joke from what, two years ago? Two years ago on Aunation.net? Nice one, Chopper.
And who is making fun of naked women?
You know what, Chopper. Go ahead and keep up this asshole shit towards me. I've never understood why you have this personal vendetta against me, but if it keeps you happy in that apartment of yours, keep it up.
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Fmnstr...wow. Still using that same joke from what, two years ago? Two years ago on Aunation.net? Nice one, Chopper.
It's a fair shot. I didn't expect you to like it. You took a shot at someone you didn't know, so I figure taking shots at you should only make you comfortable, not the opposite. Go figure that you don't like it. (shrug)
And who is making fun of naked women?
So, seriously, you go after him because of his avatar? Weak. Okay, so let's assume that this wasn't about naked women.... The fact that you choose to go after ss for his avatar is super gay, considering the man posts some top notch talent in the appropriate sections of this forum.
You know what, Chopper. Go ahead and keep up this asshole shit towards me. I've never understood why you have this personal vendetta against me, but if it keeps you happy in that apartment of yours, keep it up.
Nothing against you, rather that I find your Dr. Jeckle / Mr. Hyde routine a little tiring. You offer good info from time to time, but hanging out with you would be about as fun sticking a sharp pencil in my eye.
...and uh....Why yes... I live in an apartment.
I'm happy... I'm eating a cookie... I have sex with girls too... you're missing out.
Anything else?
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Why would someone pour tiny eels down someone else's butthole?
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It's a fair shot. I didn't expect you to like it. You took a shot at someone you didn't know, so I figure taking shots at you should only make you comfortable, not the opposite. Go figure that you don't like it. (shrug)
So, seriously, you go after him because of his avatar? Weak. Okay, so let's assume that this wasn't about naked women.... The fact that you choose to go after ss for his avatar is super gay, considering the man posts some top notch talent in the appropriate sections of this forum.
Nothing against you, rather that I find your Dr. Jeckle / Mr. Hyde routine a little tiring. You offer good info from time to time, but hanging out with you would be about as fun sticking a sharp pencil in my eye.
...and uh....Why yes... I live in an apartment.
I'm happy... I'm eating a cookie... I have sex with girls too... you're missing out.
Anything else?
I eat cookies!
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I eat cookies!
cookies are choice man! :vn:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT_gxpyavag&feature=related
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cookies are choice man! :vn:
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I clicked it. There was one Asian woman pouring tiny eels through a funnel into another Asian woman's butthole. I didn't stick around for the ending.
Not really sure why you would pour tiny eels into your butthole. Doesn't make sense to me. I've never pondered the possibility of deriving pleasure from pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole. Would it be the person pouring the tiny eels into someone else's butthole that this gives plaesure to, or is it the person receiving the tiny eels into their own butthole that's supposed to be having fun?
And who would think of pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole in the first place? Can't see that thought crossing my mind. More importantly, who would think to search for a video of someone pouring tiny eels into someone else's butthole? Seems logical that the thought crossed their mind. "You know, I wonder if there are any videos of people pouring tiny eels into each other's butthole's. I think I'll do a search. Hey, if I find any, I could post the video on a message board of people pouring tiny eels into each other's buttholes whenever a thread goes off topic."
Something strange about pouring tiny eels into someone's butthole.
Yep. I figured that's the one I'd seen.
If he found it the same way I did, he got "Rick Rolled" into it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT_gxpyavag&feature=related
do you ever sleep?
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LOL......I'll get my sleep when I die. I ain't got time to......uh, sleep.
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Nothing against you, rather that I find your Dr. Jeckle / Mr. Hyde routine a little tiring. You offer good info from time to time, but hanging out with you would be about as fun sticking a sharp pencil in my eye.
Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde routine? Sorry, I don't follow. Must have to lose my hair for that one.
And I'm confused why you're thinking about hanging out with me. I've got enough friends in real life that I don't need to find them on message boards. I mean, if you need a friend, sure, Chop, I'll go grab a beer or two with you.
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No No Townhall... What I said was, haning out with you would be NOOOO fun. I have friends. I also DO have friends I've met on here. Crack on that all you want, I'm glad you have all sorts of friends away from here. Congrats on that.
Crack on people here, and get personal all you want Townhall. SS was joking, and gigging you, you weren't, and you obviously couldn't take it. You deserved to get cracked on all you got.
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:rofl: :rofl:
I love the caption on the bottom........''cause talking shit in person is dangerous''
:rofl:
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http://www.al.com/alabama/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1210320979230990.xml&coll=2
Overall, Saban found the event, which has its final stop Tuesday in Meridian, Miss., valuable and an important opportunity for supporters to meet him. His Nick at Noon events during football season serve a similar purpose. "They have the right," Saban said.
But this year's event, he said, "didn't come off exactly like we wanted."
Saban would prefer the event not be open to whomever buys a ticket, but only to members of Tide booster groups such as Tide Pride and A-Plus.
It's funny that this guy is a prick on such a consistent basis, that this is barely worthy of mention.
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http://www.al.com/alabama/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1210320979230990.xml&coll=2It's funny that this guy is a prick on such a consistent basis, that this is barely worthy of mention.
Well AUChizad, when you’re making headlines for being a dickhead, playing nice tends to take that back seat thing. He's created that one.
He deserve a lot of it but, it's going to take a shit load of goodness and ass kissing for him to shed the rep he has and I don't think he's worried about it. I'm glad he doesn't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
It does give you guys tons of ammo, which sucks.......... :fu:
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No No Townhall... What I said was, haning out with you would be NOOOO fun. I have friends. I also DO have friends I've met on here. Crack on that all you want, I'm glad you have all sorts of friends away from here. Congrats on that.
Crack on people here, and get personal all you want Townhall. SS was joking, and gigging you, you weren't, and you obviously couldn't take it. You deserved to get cracked on all you got.
Good God, Chopper. How in the hell was I NOT "gigging" SS right back when he said that? There's no need really explaining it to you. I don't know why you jumped in here when it had nothing to do with you in the first place. But as usual, you piss people off just for fun. Congrats! You really are the Asshole of Tigersx.
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And you know what Chopper? FUCK you.
You know why "FUCK you?" Because I was a bit too much of a dick towards SS for a desultory remark. So, touche.
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Maybe cause I'm a thug.
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Maybe cause I'm a thug.
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Let me see ya grill'
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And you know what Chopper? FUCK you.
You know why "FUCK you?" Because I was a bit too much of a dick towards SS for a desultory remark. So, touche.
:rofl: :rofl:
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I found this issue to be particularly informative.
(http://www.prometheus6.org/images/toughguy1.jpg)
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hmm.....interesting, yes , quite provocative.....informative indeed.