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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on February 11, 2011, 06:21:09 PM
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When asked a question about when did he know Gene Chizik was the right man for the job...."When he left Auburn after the '04 season."
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It was time for some new Championship blood. Thank Goodness.
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Pat Dye definitely approves
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Now in two short years, Coach Chizik has done what no Coach, except for Shug, has and brought home the National Championship. He did it with WORK, HARD WORK (Not off hunting and doing shit like that every year).
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You just can't let it go. There is no excuse for the bull shit shots...
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When asked a question about when did he know Gene Chizik was the right man for the job...."When he left Auburn after the '04 season."
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpirdHd9pvV76QhjeDxAdZ5QOikztUhVSf__-pJJsyPqserCWOkw)
It was time for some new Championship blood. Thank Goodness.
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Pat Dye definitely approves
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Now in two short years, Coach Chizik has done what no Coach, except for Shug, has and brought home the National Championship. He did it with WORK, HARD WORK (Not off hunting and doing shit like that every year).
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You just can't let it go. There is no excuse for the bull shit shots...
How is that a shot? This is exactly what is recorded and what happen. You only think it is a shot because you think....
wait, what does this mean Prowler; (Not off hunting and doing shit like that every year).
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You know who else hated Tubs? The Nazis.
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You know who else hated Tubs? The Nazis.
If he had recruited better, WWII never would have happened.
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You clowns just won't give up.
I've tried to be reasonable and fair. But you seriously can't sit there and claim that one season gives Chizik any kind of legitimacy.
Cam Newton and Gus Malzahn made this happen. Chizik was a bystander. God help us when Gus takes the bus elsewhere.
I said he did a good job managing the Cam situation, but really all he did was not say anything. That's not really so hard when you think about it.
One of the things Greasyweasel said was that the worse thing that could happen was for Auburn to have early success under Chizik because it would be that much harder to get rid of him when the wheels fell off. Now it's going to take a crowbar. Maybe he was a bammer like some of you insist, but he at least could see things objectively. His vision wasn't clouded by a spray of Chiz jizz.
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You clowns just won't give up.
I've tried to be reasonable and fair. But you seriously can't sit there and claim that one season gives Chizik any kind of legitimacy.
Cam Newton and Gus Malzahn made this happen. Chizik was a bystander. God help us when Gus takes the bus elsewhere.
I said he did a good job managing the Cam situation, but really all he did was not say anything. That's not really so hard when you think about it.
One of the things Greasyweasel said was that the worse thing that could happen was for Auburn to have early success under Chizik because it would be that much harder to get rid of him when the wheels fell off. Now it's going to take a crowbar. Maybe he was a bammer like some of you insist, but he at least could see things objectively. His vision wasn't clouded by a spray of Chiz jizz.
Dude.....you guys are doing exactly what was intended in this thread. I'm not gonna take any cheap shots here at Tubs because I really don't dislike him that much. I just do it to poke at you. But seriously, anytime you respond to something like this, I'm certain you are giving Prowler exactly what he wants. He would even tell you that. My advice would be just NOT to respond at all if it bothers you.
And I'm gonna have to disagree with you on GW. That guy was as far from objective as can be. That guy was just as much "against Chizik" no matter what, as Prowler is "for Chizik". He was probably worse.
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When asked a question about when did he know Gene Chizik was the right man for the job...."When he left Auburn after the '04 season."
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpirdHd9pvV76QhjeDxAdZ5QOikztUhVSf__-pJJsyPqserCWOkw)
It was time for some new Championship blood. Thank Goodness.
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Pat Dye definitely approves
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Now in two short years, Coach Chizik has done what no Coach, except for Shug, has and brought home the National Championship. He did it with WORK, HARD WORK (Not off hunting and doing shit like that every year).
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4cK5wGFp_3zBfTsEmc9doTvGpKP4WpiqSP-B1emEFGrL3TnU06g)
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And I'm gonna have to disagree with you on GW. That guy was as far from objective as can be. That guy was just as much "against Chizik" no matter what, as Prowler is "for Chizik". He was probably worse.
So one loon crying in the wilderness is okay, but an equal and opposite loon to counterbalance isn't wanted?
At least GW wasn't all "ooh RAH" about everything. He made some sense from time to time. And who's to say he was wrong anyway? Is there enough evidence to prove it yet?
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So one loon crying in the wilderness is okay, but an equal and opposite loon to counterbalance isn't wanted?
At least GW wasn't all "ooh RAH" about everything. He made some sense from time to time. And who's to say he was wrong anyway? Is there enough evidence to prove it yet?
Prowler is out there in one direction....GW is out there in the other direction.
Then there is the fact that besides being out there in his opinion on Chizik and our FB program, GW is a plain certified nut anyway in general. Read how the guy writes. Dude is flat out apocalyptic. And has NEVER...repeat, NEVER been right. The October 31, 2009 prediction was the best one. He was "privy" to information we didn't have. What the fuck ever. Dude was a troll. Prowler is crazy, out there, annoying sometimes? Yes.....but he's not a troll. GW attempted/would attempt to inflict strife even in the best of times amongst fans on this board and other boards. To me, thats the #1 symptom of being a troll.
I wouldn't take a liking to GW just because he shares your opinion of Prowler. In this case, the enemy of your enemy should not be your friend. Just my opinion.
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So one loon crying in the wilderness is okay, but an equal and opposite loon to counterbalance isn't wanted?
At least GW wasn't all "ooh RAH" about everything. He made some sense from time to time. And who's to say he was wrong anyway? Is there enough evidence to prove it yet?
I want to hear greasyweasal's take on all of this...
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I want to hear greasyweasal's take on all of this...
He won't show up around here. He knows that we are better of with Chizik and the influential Pat Dye hanging around the program...
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I want to hear greasyweasal's take on all of this...
You should never go full tard.
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You should never go full tard.
Listen to this man. He's pre.....pre...oh hell, that bitch in his avatar can flat out shake it.
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Look around you. We win a championship finally but...
About half of us are afraid to celebrate too much because in the back of our mind we worry that it WILL get taken away.
Tubs leaves and within TWO YEARS we are dealing with rumor after rumor of problems. We didn't hear any of that for ten years under Tuberville. He kept the goon squad at arms length. Would you see Tim Jackson standing next to Tuberville on the sidelines? Talking to him during games? No.
ESPN poll showed 68% of the country thinks the title is tainted. Not a single state did not.
GW was right about the stench that would come. So he missed so far on the Armageddon predictions. What if he is right but has the timing wrong.
Some of you are hypocrites. You have no opinion but whatever is the current trend and you waffle all over people who DO express an opinion.
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Look around you. We win a championship finally but...
About half of us are afraid to celebrate too much because in the back of our mind we worry that it WILL get taken away.
Tubs leaves and within TWO YEARS we are dealing with rumor after rumor of problems. We didn't hear any of that for ten years under Tuberville. He kept the goon squad at arms length. Would you see Tim Jackson standing next to Tuberville on the sidelines? Talking to him during games? No.
ESPN poll showed 68% of the country thinks the title is tainted. Not a single state did not.
GW was right about the stench that would come. So he missed so far on the Armageddon predictions. What if he is right but has the timing wrong.
Some of you are hypocrites. You have no opinion but whatever is the current trend and you waffle all over people who DO express an opinion.
I want more of his predictions, unless he is a frightened little puss...
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Look around you. We win a championship finally but...
About half of us are afraid to celebrate too much because in the back of our mind we worry that it WILL get taken away.
Tubs leaves and within TWO YEARS we are dealing with rumor after rumor of problems. We didn't hear any of that for ten years under Tuberville. He kept the goon squad at arms length. Would you see Tim Jackson standing next to Tuberville on the sidelines? Talking to him during games? No.
ESPN poll showed 68% of the country thinks the title is tainted. Not a single state did not.
GW was right about the stench that would come. So he missed so far on the Armageddon predictions. What if he is right but has the timing wrong.
Some of you are hypocrites. You have no opinion but whatever is the current trend and you waffle all over people who DO express an opinion.
I see you have been listening to f bomb and shane.
And of course most of the country thinks that. It's college football. Everyone hates everyone. Most cfb fans want to see the demise of every other team out there but their own.
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Look around you. We win a championship finally but...
About half of us are afraid to celebrate too much because in the back of our mind we worry that it WILL get taken away.
Tubs leaves and within TWO YEARS we are dealing with rumor after rumor of problems. We didn't hear any of that for ten years under Tuberville. He kept the goon squad at arms length. Would you see Tim Jackson standing next to Tuberville on the sidelines? Talking to him during games? No.
ESPN poll showed 68% of the country thinks the title is tainted. Not a single state did not.
GW was right about the stench that would come. So he missed so far on the Armageddon predictions. What if he is right but has the timing wrong.
Some of you are hypocrites. You have no opinion but whatever is the current trend and you waffle all over people who DO express an opinion.
I pretty much think every national championship ever has been tainted. Including whoever won the first ever one.
You know who else hated Chizik? The Nazis (and GW).
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Tuberville just had the Yella-Fella barking in his ears on the sidelines. Bottom line, I loved CTT and was pumped when we hired him. Wanted the guy to succeed and he did, way more than fail. A variety of reasons snowballed to point to it being time to go. I had no problem with that and wish the guy well.
I hear what you're saying about the rest of the country thinking the MNC is tainted. I blame the media, plain and simple. Cam's popularity and overall charisma were starting to peak when the story broke. 90% plus of the major sports media outlets, ESPin being at the forefront all bellowed, "Trouble at AUBURN". I concede that any casual fan would make the logical assumption that since Cecil axed MSU, Auburn must have outbid. I get it.
However, after 5 different entities, whose job it is to investigate these situations, did their jobs and basically closed the books after finding Auburn guilty of absolutely nothing, that same media refused or somehow neglected to stop pointing the accusing finger at our school. Chizik and Co. did nothing to deserve that kind of bad pub and scrutiny. But they did do the absolute best thing they could have done. They said Auburn did nothing wrong. Cam is eligible and we're going to shut the hell up and focus on winning a MNC. Which in my opinion, was an unbelievable job under that kind of pressure.
This staff may not be the greatest conglomeration of coaches ever assembled, but they have been consistent with one thing since coming to AU...they've been extremely aggressive in everything they've done, which sounds very similar to a certain school located a bit northwest of Auburn. And while a myriad of accusations come out every year about how Lord Saybinz bumped this, Chargered that, Laptopped over here and remodeled some kitchenz under there, they've stayed aggressive as hell and kept on winning. This staff looks to be following the same pattern and I'm happy as hell about that.
When you're on top, everybody will take shots. As many have said, if we lose to Clemson or South Carolina or drop that one at UK....the Cam Newton "Pay for play" story is nothing more than an occasional scroll across the ticker on ESPin.
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Tuberville just had the Yella-Fella barking in his ears on the sidelines. Bottom line, I loved CTT and was pumped when we hired him. Wanted the guy to succeed and he did, way more than fail. A variety of reasons snowballed to point to it being time to go. I had no problem with that and wish the guy well.
I hear what you're saying about the rest of the country thinking the MNC is tainted. I blame the media, plain and simple. Cam's popularity and overall charisma were starting to peak when the story broke. 90% plus of the major sports media outlets, ESPin being at the forefront all bellowed, "Trouble at AUBURN". I concede that any casual fan would make the logical assumption that since Cecil axed MSU, Auburn must have outbid. I get it.
However, after 5 different entities, whose job it is to investigate these situations, did their jobs and basically closed the books after finding Auburn guilty of absolutely nothing, that same media refused or somehow neglected to stop pointing the accusing finger at our school. Chizik and Co. did nothing to deserve that kind of bad pub and scrutiny. But they did do the absolute best thing they could have done. They said Auburn did nothing wrong. Cam is eligible and we're going to shut the hell up and focus on winning a MNC. Which in my opinion, was an unbelievable job under that kind of pressure.
This staff may not be the greatest conglomeration of coaches ever assembled, but they have been consistent with one thing since coming to AU...they've been extremely aggressive in everything they've done, which sounds very similar to a certain school located a bit northwest of Auburn. And while a myriad of accusations come out every year about how Lord Saybinz bumped this, Chargered that, Laptopped over here and remodeled some kitchenz under there, they've stayed aggressive as hell and kept on winning. This staff looks to be following the same pattern and I'm happy as hell about that.
When you're on top, everybody will take shots. As many have said, if we lose to Clemson or South Carolina or drop that one at UK....the Cam Newton "Pay for play" story is nothing more than an occasional scroll across the ticker on ESPin.
Once. He had that once at Arkansas. That tubby yellow bastard was romping up and down the sidelines.
Tuberville put his ass in the stands where he belonged after that incident. It was the beginning of the end for him if you want to know the truth. You can't stand up to the Cabal.
So explain to me how in ten years -- most of them good -- we had decent recruiting, beat every SEC team more than we lost to them (I think) but didn't have even a whiff of NCAA scrutiny and now two years into the Chizik era there's a huge national cloud floating around.
Is that a good thing?
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I want more of his predictions, unless he is a frightened little puss...
Why the hell would he come back? Nobody wants to hear a differing opinion all you want is sheep bleating.
I'd welcome the alternative viewpoint. I didn't always agree with him, but he had every right to express it.
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Once. He had that once at Arkansas. That tubby yellow bastard was romping up and down the sidelines.
Tuberville put his ass in the stands where he belonged after that incident. It was the beginning of the end for him if you want to know the truth. You can't stand up to the Cabal.
So explain to me how in ten years -- most of them good -- we had decent recruiting, beat every SEC team more than we lost to them (I think) but didn't have even a whiff of NCAA scrutiny and now two years into the Chizik era there's a huge national cloud floating around.
Is that a good thing?
I guess that depends...
Do we have a huge national cloud floating around because...
A) ...we can attract major league level talent and play on a high enough level that even the smallest hint of impropriety gets blown all out of proportion(then it is a good thing)
B) ...we are blatantly cheating (not a good thing).
As for me, I think we are on the level of A. The evidence of that is the way the story of Cecil daring to show up at the stadium where his son was playing for the national championship. That's big news? That's a scandal? That's lack of institutional control? That was the media trying to come up with something to nail Auburn with, mostly because we have been an easy target for that sort of thing in the past.
The difference between the Tubs grades for no work scandal and the Chizik pay for play scandal is that when the grades for no work scandal came out the nation yawned because at that time nobody cared about Auburn and nobody outside of Auburn fans had ever heard of the players implicated.
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Totally agree that Tubs never got caught. The boy was good. Gotta' give him props.
I still have to give this staff a complete pass on the national cloud thing until I hear something, anything more than Shane saying they must have. Cam thrust himself into the spotlight with his stature, his ability, his play and equally important, his charisma and leadership. He was an easy target and Auburn was along for the ride whether they wanted to be or not. The finger has been pointed squarely at Auburn when there hasn't been even one shred of evidence to remotely suggest they did anything wrong.
This is no knock on Tubs at all..but what did 10 years of a perceived clean program get us? Sounds like a crazy question and I certainly want our staff to run a clean program. However, as soon as this allegation broke, it was like taking a time machine back to 1993. Auburn was again being ripped as the dirtiest program in history, blah blah blah. Point being, Auburn and just about anyone in the SEC who is accused of indiscretion, is going to automatically fall into the same group of dirty SEC programs. It's the norm for us. The way the game is played down south according to the rest of the country.
Except Miss. State. Nobody likes Miss. State. Nobody
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Funny...I haven't seen greaseybammer post anything since we won the SEC Championship Game, hmmm. I doubt he'll post his love about Coach Dye, Coach Chizik, Jacobs.
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Funny...I haven't seen greaseybammer post anything since we won the SEC Championship Game, hmmm. I doubt he'll post his love about Coach Dye, Coach Chizik, Jacobs.
For the love of all that is holy, please don't encourage him to come back - the board is so much better without all his blather and gloom and doom - especially when it was delivered from a "My family is in the know because we are so important" pedastal. We all know how much I love that kind of bombastic bullshit, especially when it is just that - BULLSHIT. He is a lying sack of dung and a closet bammer. Fuck him. I hope he stays gone FOREVER, unless he comes back long enough for me to once again tell him to take a flying fuck at an angry beehive, and THEN leave.
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You're right, Wench, greasey is too big of a pussy to come back now anyway, especially now since Auburn won the National Championship and since the NCAA President has come out saying that no money changed hands, Cam didn't know about the deal & Auburn's hands have been clean the whole time. He's probably still holding out hope on the Milton McGregor case, eventhough MM's Lawyer has stated that the FBI doesn't have anything on tape regarding Auburn or their players.
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You're right, Wench, greasey is too big of a pussy to come back now anyway, especially now since Auburn won the National Championship and since the NCAA President has come out saying that no money changed hands, Cam didn't know about the deal & Auburn's hands have been clean the whole time. He's probably still holding out hope on the Milton McGregor case, eventhough MM's Lawyer has stated that the FBI doesn't have anything on tape regarding Auburn or their players.
Why would he come back? Seriously. Offer an opinion counter to the herd here and it's mob rule. Nobody interested in anything resembling the truth unless it's sunshine pumped out the ass.
I don't think he was unreasonable. I'm sure he'd admit to being surprised at where things are now, but I bet you anything that he can feel the same sick disturbance in the force that others do.
I know I'm sick of it. The dude at Chick Fil A this morning saw my Auburn shirt and asked me how much we paid for a national title? The fucking counter dork said it. And that's the question. Was it worth it, whether we did anything or not the perceptions there. We've upset that applecart and it is going to be a war. Oh, I demanded my money back from CfA. They hate any kind of disturbance. I got an apology and a week's worth of free sammiches. Yah.
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I don't know, debating is one thing but GW never debated..never offered up anything to support his position. And that position was, "I know stuff....and the end is near".
Can't tell you what that stuff is. Just trust me, the very foundations of heaven and earth will crumble at Chiziks feet and the Auburn we knew will forever be.....
I know stuff
See here's the thing. I don't have any illusions about Chiz or Lord Saybinz or Mack Brown or Frank Graftychin Beamer. It's a dirty business and shit goes on at every program. But, for God's sake, throw me a frickin' bone if you're telling me that the entire world will collapse under the weight of the evil one and you're all lemmings for worshipping at the Chiz alter. I need more than I know stuff.
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I don't know, debating is one thing but GW never debated..never offered up anything to support his position. And that position was, "I know stuff....and the end is near".
Can't tell you what that stuff is. Just trust me, the very foundations of heaven and earth will crumble at Chiziks feet and the Auburn we knew will forever be.....
I know stuff
See here's the thing. I don't have any illusions about Chiz or Lord Saybinz or Mack Brown or Frank Graftychin Beamer. It's a dirty business and shit goes on at every program. But, for God's sake, throw me a frickin' bone if you're telling me that the entire world will collapse under the weight of the evil one and you're all lemmings for worshipping at the Chiz alter. I need more than I know stuff.
I'd explain it to you, but I know stuff. Sworn to secrecy.
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I'd explain it to you, but I know stuff. Sworn to secrecy.
I knew it. Closet bammer.
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Why would he come back? Seriously. Offer an opinion counter to the herd here and it's mob rule. Nobody interested in anything resembling the truth unless it's sunshine pumped out the ass.
He didn't offer an opinion counter to the herd - he flat out stated for the record that Chiz was the anti-Christ, end of discussion, and oh, by the way, we should just blindly believe him because he might or might not be the scion of a longtime Auburn family with names on campus bathroom stalls and urinals and such... it was only an "against the herd" mentality because he never could convince enough people to set aside their common sense and blindly join HIS herd... This is more of a case of the herd banding together to drive out the weakest link, to shun and exlile the genetic misfit that was making life intolerable for the rest of the group.
If hoping that asshole stays gone makes me part of the herd mentality, then baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
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If hoping that asshole stays gone makes me part of the herd mentality, then baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
Wouldn't do that too loudly around here. It's like a mating call to some of these guys.
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Wouldn't do that too loudly around here. It's like a mating call to some of these guys.
Who dat' call my name?
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He didn't offer an opinion counter to the herd - he flat out stated for the record that Chiz was the anti-Christ, end of discussion, and oh, by the way, we should just blindly believe him because he might or might not be the scion of a longtime Auburn family with names on campus bathroom stalls and urinals and such... it was only an "against the herd" mentality because he never could convince enough people to set aside their common sense and blindly join HIS herd... This is more of a case of the herd banding together to drive out the weakest link, to shun and exlile the genetic misfit that was making life intolerable for the rest of the group.
If hoping that asshole stays gone makes me part of the herd mentality, then baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
THIS
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You'd think with Auburn landing their 2nd National Championship & their 2nd Top 5 Recruiting Class in a row, that greasey would be happy....also the NCAA President basically saying that Auburn is clear. You'd think he'd be giddy with excitement of what Coach Chizik has been able to do in only his 2nd year at Auburn.
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You'd think with Auburn landing their 2nd National Championship & their 2nd Top 5 Recruiting Class in a row, that greasey would be happy....also the NCAA President basically saying that Auburn is clear. You'd think he'd be giddy with excitement of what Coach Chizik has been able to do in only his 2nd year at Auburn.
8-5 and a win over Northwestern isn't a national championship. Unless you're Alabama. Then it's number 8.
We have no idea where this is going to end up. Chizik has been super fortunate up to now. He didn't even want to recruit Cam. Think about that for a minute. He had to be talked into pursuing the best player in the last 20 years for Auburn. What does that tell you?
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8-5 and a win over Northwestern isn't a national championship. Unless you're Alabama. Then it's number 8.
We have no idea where this is going to end up. Chizik has been super fortunate up to now. He didn't even want to recruit Cam. Think about that for a minute. He had to be talked into pursuing the best player in the last 20 years for Auburn. What does that tell you?
Link?
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8-5 and a win over Northwestern isn't a national championship. Unless you're Alabama. Then it's number 8.
We have no idea where this is going to end up. Chizik has been super fortunate up to now. He didn't even want to recruit Cam. Think about that for a minute. He had to be talked into pursuing the best player in the last 20 years for Auburn. What does that tell you?
Conjecture...
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Conjecture...
Speculation...
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Speculation...
Hearsay...
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Hearsay...
Shenanigans
Wait....
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Shenanigans
Wait....
I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans.
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I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans.
Hey Farva, what's that place you like with all that ... that place you like with the shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
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Hey Farva, what's that place you like with all that ... that place you like with the shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
You mean Shenanigans?
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Link?
Chizik said it and Malzahn said it and CAM said it in separate interviews.
It's a known fact. Do I have to link that grass is green or that M&M's are candy?
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8-5 and a win over Northwestern isn't a national championship. Unless you're Alabama. Then it's number 8.
We have no idea where this is going to end up. Chizik has been super fortunate up to now. He didn't even want to recruit Cam. Think about that for a minute. He had to be talked into pursuing the best player in the last 20 years for Auburn. What does that tell you?
You have no idea where this going to end up. We are all just going on the evidence presented thus far. At Auburn Gene Chizik has won one (1) national championship, one (1) SEC champion, and produced 1 (one) Heisman winner.
He has won national championships in 50% of the seasons he has been head coach at Auburn University, ergo he is the greatest coach in the history of mankind.
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I think this season will be one hell of a challenge and will say a lot about what we have coaching and talent wise. Incredibly tough schedule with so many big ones on the road. The losses to graduation and early departures speak for themselves and most of the nation looked at us a 2 trick pony with Cam and Fairley.
But, I have a sneaky suspicion this team is a lot more talented than most people think. I'm stoked about seeing what Nosa and Corey will do as probable starters at end. And how quickly will Gabe Wright step in beside Whittaker on the interior and give us two 300+ beasts to clog up the middle. (I know it's just high school film but damn, Wright is a freak) Several new LB's will step in and with the DB signing class we had, who will get immediate playing time? Regardless, I think this defense is infinitely more talented and deep than the 09' squad.
Can Emory Blake be the go to guy now? Will Fro-throw meet and/or exceed Chris Todd's output of 09'. Will Kris Frost make us jump jump? And just what is a Lutzenkirchen anyway? Damn, I'm already pumped for football season. Spring game?
Oh and BTDub, heard this morning that Frazier will not enroll til the Fall. This should mean Fro-throw will be the man initially.
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Neiko can't wait to perform for you.
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Neiko can't wait to perform for you.
Why you gotta' go pissin' in my corn flakes?
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Yes Chizik is just like Coker. He's old, can't relate to his players, won immediately without developing any players at all, and moved to a much more difficult conference after dominating the Big East and finding out he just couldn't rely completely on the athleticism of his players to get him by. Sounds just like Chizik.
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I think this season will be one hell of a challenge and will say a lot about what we have coaching and talent wise. Incredibly tough schedule with so many big ones on the road. The losses to graduation and early departures speak for themselves and most of the nation looked at us a 2 trick pony with Cam and Fairley.
But, I have a sneaky suspicion this team is a lot more talented than most people think. I'm stoked about seeing what Nosa and Corey will do as probable starters at end. And how quickly will Gabe Wright step in beside Whittaker on the interior and give us two 300+ beasts to clog up the middle. (I know it's just high school film but damn, Wright is a freak) Several new LB's will step in and with the DB signing class we had, who will get immediate playing time? Regardless, I think this defense is infinitely more talented and deep than the 09' squad.
Can Emory Blake be the go to guy now? Will Fro-throw meet and/or exceed Chris Todd's output of 09'. Will Kris Frost make us jump jump? And just what is a Lutzenkirchen anyway? Damn, I'm already pumped for football season. Spring game?
Oh and BTDub, heard this morning that Frazier will not enroll til the Fall. This should mean Fro-throw will be the man initially.
Good post...no ...no .....good post...now I know why Tigers eat their young.
O-line? O-line is what will make or break us.
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Good post...no ...no .....good post...now I know why Tigers eat their young.
O-line? O-line is what will make or break us.
The OL is what scares me the most, and I'm sure most other Auburn fans. We have lots of talent (young) at all the positions even the OL. I think we will be able to get a pretty good indication on how the '11 season will go after watching the first 3 or 4 games. This will be a crucial time for the OL to get in sync with each other.
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Bob Stoops does not think any coach that wins a national title in his second year with a JC transfer QB is worth a damn and will quickly fail.
WAR EAGLE
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Bob Stoops does not think any coach that wins a national title in his second year with a JC transfer QB is worth a damn and will quickly fail.
WAR EAGLE
Exactly.
By championship standards, Stoops is a colossal failure. That one finger he's holding up? Yeah. That's it. One.
He loses to Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Nebraska and Texas a lot. Typically loses at least two critical games a year. The bigger the stage the harder Stoops falls.
Tuberville is better than Stoops. At least he regularly beat the major competitors and had a national title in 2004.
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Exactly.
By championship standards, Stoops is a colossal failure. That one finger he's holding up? Yeah. That's it. One.
He loses to Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Nebraska and Texas a lot. Typically loses at least two critical games a year. The bigger the stage the harder Stoops falls.
Tuberville is better than Stoops. At least he regularly beat the major competitors and had a national title in 2004.
ok, you need to get off your medication or get back on it because your just spewing horseshit right and left and operating WAY below your standards.
it is not even intellectually challenging to discuss anything with you since your "return".............
:sad:
WDE
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ok, you need to get off your medication or get back on it because your just spewing horseshit right and left and operating WAY below your standards.
it is not even intellectually challenging to discuss anything with you since your "return".............
:sad:
WDE
So. How many championships does Stoops have?
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One just like...
Steve Spurrier
Mack Brown
Jim Tressel
Lloyd Carr
All considered successful coaches. How many should he have won? God, you sound like a bammer.
Pawwwllll, Saban didn't win the champeenship this year! How long we gonna put up with this? I'll hang up and listen.
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One just like...
Steve Spurrier
Mack Brown
Jim Tressel
Lloyd Carr
All considered successful coaches. How many should he have won? God, you sound like a bammer.
Pawwwllll, Saban didn't win the champeenship this year! How long we gonna put up with this? I'll hang up and listen.
There are a several guys who won one and didn't do diddly dick beyond that. Can't use 2010 as a measuring stick. It was one season. A great season, yes, but just one.
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There are a several guys who won one and didn't do diddly tool beyond that. Can't use 2010 as a measuring stick. It was one season. A great season, yes, but just one.
When you've only got two seasons to judge by you use what you have. We're 2-0 in bowls, two top 10 recruiting classes, 1 Heisman, 1 SEC championship, and 1 BCS Championship. If the guy retired tomorrow he would go down as an Auburn legend. What are we supposed to use as a measuring stick? The fact that most people were pissed when he was hired and some of us (you) haven't gotten over it yet?
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When you've only got two seasons to judge by you use what you have. We're 2-0 in bowls, two top 10 recruiting classes, 1 Heisman, 1 SEC championship, and 1 BCS Championship. If the guy retired tomorrow he would go down as an Auburn legend. What are we supposed to use as a measuring stick? The fact that most people were pissed when he was hired and some of us (you) haven't gotten over it yet?
Fine. Build he freaking monument. It can be torn down later.
Or just do like the stupid ass Bammers did and make a Chizik snowman. At least it'll melt.
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Fine. Build he freaking monument. It can be torn down later.
Or just do like the stupid ass Bammers did and make a Chizik snowman. At least it'll melt.
I'm sorry I offended you by stating the obvious facts. Now continue on with your arguments involving College Park Church building repairs, dogtrack wiretaps, and how our clueless head coach needs help from Gus shaking off after he pees.
:bc:
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and how our clueless head coach needs help from Gus shaking off after he pees.
Actually, Gus has fixed all the coaches up with a bag that allows them to pee freely any time, day or night. The urine is then filtered and returned to the body via intravenous means, also reducing the time that each staff member has to waster drinking fluids every day. This allows them to be more efficient in their daily lives.
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O-line? O-line is what will make or break us.
Thinking about our O-line in three/fours years from now, when they are all upperclassmen who have played together for a few years, gives me serious shivers... and I mean the good kind. 2010 redeaux...
And who needs greasyscumbag back when you have Kaos toting the pee bags for him (to continue with the theme...)?
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I kind of made the same point about Malzahn more than once on here. I think he is the main cog in the machine. I don't have any inside information on that. I guess its just a hunch. It's kind of the body language you pick up when you see the sideline (on TV, of course). Malzahn is one smart motherfucker, and I've had to eat alot of crow in regards to his ability.
In regards to Cam.....I kind of think about all of those years Tebow walked among us mere mortals and UF dominated all. And, what did we all say? Any school could win with Tebow. Of course, UF always had a pretty good defense, and some star power on offense as well. But Tebow was the man. He made that team. And what did we all say would happen when Tebow left? Yeah. Saw that coming from a mile away.
Who knows how 2011 will end up for AU? For all I know, whoever is the starting QB comes out and surprises everybody much like Cam did. Maybe he will make Tebow and Cam look mortal. I don't know.
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I kind of made the same point about Malzahn more than once on here. I think he is the main cog in the machine. I don't have any inside information on that. I guess its just a hunch. It's kind of the body language you pick up when you see the sideline (on TV, of course). Malzahn is one smart motherfucker, and I've had to eat alot of crow in regards to his ability.
In regards to Cam.....I kind of think about all of those years Tebow walked among us mere mortals and UF dominated all. And, what did we all say? Any school could win with Tebow. Of course, UF always had a pretty good defense, and some star power on offense as well. But Tebow was the man. He made that team. And what did we all say would happen when Tebow left? Yeah. Saw that coming from a mile away.
Who knows how 2011 will end up for AU? For all I know, whoever is the starting QB comes out and surprises everybody much like Cam did. Maybe he will make Tebow and Cam look mortal. I don't know.
You don't have this book, do you?
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You don't have this book, do you?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fV7PRHg6L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
Do they sell it at the Wal-Marks?
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I'm sorry I offended you by stating the obvious facts. Now continue on with your arguments involving College Park Church building repairs, dogtrack wiretaps, and how our clueless head coach needs help from Gus shaking off after he pees.
:bc:
Boom!
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Coach Chizik has been able to accomplish something that little nicky hasn't been able to do. Be part of THREE Undefeated teams and has been a part of more Championship teams. ('04 Auburn, '05 Texas, '10 Auburn). BOOM!!!
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Coach Chizik has been able to accomplish something that little nicky hasn't been able to do. Be part of THREE Undefeated teams and has been a part of more Championship teams. ('04 Auburn, '05 Texas, '10 Auburn). BOOM!!!
:playoff:
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Actually, Gus has fixed all the coaches up with a bag that allows them to pee freely any time, day or night. The urine is then filtered and returned to the body via intravenous means, also reducing the time that each staff member has to waster drinking fluids every day. This allows them to be more efficient in their daily lives.
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His suit is fitted desert fashion.
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I guess I can stop holding my breath...until next Halloween, LMAO.
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I guess I can stop holding my breath...until next Halloween, LMAO.
As much shit as ya'll get wrong -- which is essentially everything -- you have no grounds to bag on a guy for missing one prediction.
It's like certain people aren't allowed to make a statement that doesn't work out, but ya'll are allowed to get everything else wrong but then start chest thumping when you get ONE thing right.
What makes me the sickest is all the comments I've seen where some douche will drag up an old Clay Travis article or an old piece from Scarbinsky or whoever and start gigging them for being wrong about Chizik. Well guess what, fuckersnickle, you were wrong too you just didn't have the guts to put your thoughts out in public. You sat in your basement and waited so that whatever happened you could claim to be right.
I'd rather have a hundred GWs who at least have the stones to risk being wrong than even one of the sit on their hands fudgepackers who pretend they knew all along after the fact. That's weak.
And let me just add for the record that wrong is a relative term anyway. Wrong about early success? Yeah. Nobody can argue that. Although I did say that the worst thing that could happen would be for him to have success early because that leaves him entrenched and it would take dynamite to make a change should the wheels fall off.
I don't think ANYBODY knows yet what the long-term results are going to be.
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I don't think ANYBODY knows yet what the long-term results are going to be.
We are gonna mine the spice and the Draconians will die by our hand.
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We really should have a library of Kaos adjectives, adverbs and pronouns. Fuckersnickle could be added to the collection.
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So. How many championships does Stoops have?
Oklahoma has won more games since 2000 than any bcs conference team. They've beaten those teams you listed the majority of the time. Nice try though.
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Oklahoma has won more games since 2000 than any bcs conference team. They've beaten those teams you listed the majority of the time. Nice try though.
A monkey could win games in the big 12. Two half ass decent teams and 10 homecoming opponents.
Total wins is meaningless unless you are comparing almonds to almonds. Stoops wouldn't do any better than Tuberville in the SEC. I say he does substantially worse.
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A monkey could win games in the big 12.
Are you calling Tuberville a monkey? Is it because of the ears?
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We are gonna mine the spice and the Draconians will die by our hand.
The spice must flow!
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The spice must flow!
I was hanging out there for a while. I think you are the only cultured person in this place.
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Are you calling Tuberville a monkey? Is it because of the ears?
Well if you think about it, Chizik is less than a monkey because his Big 12 record was like 2-430. He got hammered by teams that had never won a Big 12 game before. The homecoming teams wanted to play him for homecoming.
Good for checking out skirt, I guess, but when you play in 10 different homecoming games and only one is yours....
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I was hanging out there for a while. I think you are the only cultured person in this place.
Whatever, I have read das book and watched das movie.
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A monkey could win games in the big 12. Two half ass decent teams and 10 homecoming opponents.
Total wins is meaningless unless you are comparing almonds to almonds. Stoops wouldn't do any better than Tuberville in the SEC. I say he does substantially worse.
So Mack Brown sucks as a coach? No way you think Stoops is a bad coach. Personality wise and in bcs games maybe. But in general the guy is a good coach.
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I was hanging out there for a while. I think you are the only cultured person in this place.
I saw it... I got it, meh
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So Mack Brown sucks as a coach? No way you think Stoops is a bad coach. Personality wise and in bcs games maybe. But in general the guy is a good coach.
You put me at Texas for 12 year years and give me the resources he has and I could win as many games and titles as he has. Prowler, too.
The Big 12 does not impress me.
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So. How many championships does Stoops have?
Being honest, I could handle it if Chiz mirrored Stoops record and acheivements. Things could be worse than losing a BCS game most years.
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Being honest, I could handle it if Chiz mirrored Stoops record and acheivements. Things could be worse than losing a BCS game most years.
It's not better to have loved and lost despite what the have lost will tell you.
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You put me at Texas for 12 year years and give me the resources he has and I could win as many games and titles as he has. Prowler, too.
Not so fast my friend.
Sincerely,
David McWilliams and John Mackovic.
Ps -Gary Gibbs and John Blake also disagree about Stoops.
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Not so fast my friend.
Sincerely,
David McWilliams and John Mackovic.
Ps -Gary Gibbs and John Blake also disagree about Stoops.
Seriously? What the fuck does he know about football?
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Seriously? What the fuck does he know about football?
(http://magicconsultant.tv/images/john_malkovich%5B1%5D.jpg)
It hurts doesn't it? Your hopes dashed, your dreams down the toilet. And your fate is sitting right besides you.
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It hurts doesn't it? Your hopes dashed, your dreams down the toilet. And your fate is sitting right besides you.
Yeah. You guys want to get pancakes?
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The fact is, we now have a HC that can, will & has outworked Coach belittle "the King of College Football". We also have one of the best coaching staffs in the Country, that are Great coaches and Great recruiters. That means there'll be more success in the future.
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The fact is, we now have a HC that can, will & has outworked Coach belittle "the King of College Football". We also have one of the best coaching staffs in the Country, that are Great coaches and Great recruiters. That means there'll be more success in the future.
And as soon as Rotney Garners joins the staff....
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And as soon as Rotney Garners joins the staff....
The recruiting accusations would be through the Roof.
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It hurts doesn't it? Your hopes dashed, your dreams down the toilet. And your fate is sitting right besides you.
Don't splash the pot.